The Bachelor 13 - Jason

Some Friday Thoughts…

I wanted to clear up one thing immediately regarding the “K Moon/Rebecca” clue. I actually went back and read what I wrote in response to the guesses people were having about it. The #3 answer I gave in bold was “Don’t be checking any song lyrics.” I wrote this because, at the time, a lot of guesses were popping up where people were quoting songs and looking for the hidden meaning in the lyrics. I wanted to immediately refute that. However, in that follow up answer, I accidentally wrote “Music is not relevant here”, which I shouldn’t have written. I should’ve left that part out and just told you to focus on “Don’t be checking any song lyrics”. Obviously, that was a mistake on my part, and not until I got a couple emails yesterday regarding it, did I even realize I had written that. So, I apologize for that. If you choose to believe I did that on purpose, then, well, you’re wrong. I honestly did not know I wrote that until yesterday when I went back and looked. I wanted you to focus on the “It’s got nothing to do with song lyrics” part. Don’t know why I wrote “Music is not relevant here”. Complete mistake on my part since obviously I know “The Who” has to do with music.

As for the clues themselves, I don’t know how many times I need to repeat this. They are not going to tell you who the final one is. They are clues that relate to what I know about the finale. What I wrote for “K Moon/Rebecca” was exactly this:

“It’s a thought, a mindset, something that puts together what happens in the finale. ‘K Moon/Rebecca’, if solved, could be a considered a “theme”. Obviously, in a shortened version.”

I’d say that’s pretty accurate. The clue I wanted to give you was, “It’s not about the who, but the how”, which is the theme behind what I know. But that’s not a clue itself, that’s essentially giving it away. So I shortened it to who/how and came up with “K Moon/Rebecca”. I told you in the beginning they weren’t easy and they were going to be vague. I even said it’s about 2 or 3 degrees of separation from what I know. Hell, some people guessed the K Moon part, so apparently it was pretty easy. Granted, it was probably only 5% of you, but still, it’s not like no one figured it out. The “Rebecca” part was tougher, I know that. But everyone was digging too deep on that one. I just figured someone would go the TV route and figure out it was a character name. Once again, just because you didn’t get it, doesn’t mean it wasn’t a good clue. As I said from the very beginning when I started these clues, these are all pieces to the puzzle of the finale. Every clue has something to do with the structure of how the finale will be presented. I can’t make that any clearer. By revealing what “K Moon/Rebecca” meant, that did NOT give away what I knew. I just said it was a piece of it, which is “It’s not about the who, but the how.” The “shocker”, “jaw-dropper”, etc, whatever you want to call it, is not that the show is scripted. I never said it was. That I haven’t given out yet. Some of you took yesterday’s column as thinking that was all I knew. Far from it. There is plenty more to come. I’d say the “2/3” clue is probably the biggest, and most telling clue out there that’ll explain what I know. Remember, it actually has two meanings to it that relate to what I know. And sorry, no one has figured it out yet.

Also, wanted to mention that a lot of you are jumping to waaaaaaay too many conclusions regarding the “There is no love story here” and “The show is scripted” phrases I mentioned yesterday. Waaaaaay too many conclusions. That’s all I’ll say about that.

And remember during my first 20 Questions when I told you that there is something that I’ve been writing that NO ONE has picked up on yet? Well, still no one has picked up on it. And if you eventually do, then I’d say you’re pretty close to figuring out what I know.

Everything will piece together in the end. “K Moon/Rebecca”, “2/3”, “Montreal”, and Tuesday’s clue will all make sense come my final column. Trust me. Yes, they’re vague and obscure now, but they will make complete sense when I explain in detail what I was getting at with those clues. Plus, they will essentially be “time stamps” of when I knew the stuff when I did. I told you I’ve been privy to information about the finale that very few people know about. One piece of that information was “It’s not about the who, but the how.” I don’t see in any way how that wasn’t a clue to what I know. If I didn’t give you that, you’d still be hung up on pinky rings, freckles, and dresses. Get beyond that. So now that you know it goes deeper, move on to “2/3” and “Montreal”, two more giant pieces to the puzzle. And oh yeah, look for that one giant thing that you’ve been missing in what I’ve been writing.

For those that continue to doubt, just know that the information I know is 100% confirmed and quadruple sourced. Remember, I lived in L.A. for pretty much my whole life until moving to Texas 2 1/2 years ago. To say I couldn’t email a few people, pick up a phone and make a couple calls and find out a few things would be naive.

See you Tuesday.

2,099 Comments

2,099 Comments

  1. DrSandman

    February 17, 2009 at 10:28 AM

    My fiance and I came up with this. 2/3 is the second trimester. He got Jillian (Canada) pregnent and that’s the “how” he winds up w/ her and therefore the “who”. Would explain why there’s an extra rose ceremony and how it would be so “senstivie”.

  2. Keep Me Guessing

    February 17, 2009 at 10:29 AM

    #1978 – So that first tie last night is the same one from FRC ya think? I thought so too, but when I went back and looked I wasn’t so sure – last night it was a purple one, and the one in the FRC looks a little more blue – but stil not sure. I will be interested to see.

    I feel like last night’s RC was a complete re take! Maybe not the part of Jillian saying her goodbye, but definately him giving our roses. And where was Chris? Was he not there? He always comes out and tells the girl not chosen to say her good-byes – but Jillian walked away from the girls without a word. Molly and Melissa looked like they had no love for each other last night either. Something fishy with last nights show – I felt so confused watching it.

  3. Anonymous

    February 17, 2009 at 10:33 AM

    come on people, its obvious what happens!! He picks Molly because he hasn’t met Mel’s parents yet. afterwards he is heartbroken and TPTB help him chase down Mel and win her back. He dumps Molly in the “intimate” after the final rose show and it is revealed that he is with Mel. The next show will show him chasing her down and winning her back.

    at this point the only thing shocking will be if anyone ever watches the Bachelor again and if Jason doesn’t come off as the biggest jerk in bachelor history.

  4. MelFan

    February 17, 2009 at 10:33 AM

    Isn’t Jillian supposed to be on The View tomorrow. If we follow Lore’s theory (post #2049) and Jillian is the one, I don’t think Jillian would be on the View or be able to evade their intense, drilling questions which we know Whoopi and the others will ask.

    I think they would have Jillian on to spur interest in her as a possible Bachelorette. Jillian is adventurous and willing to put herself out there again.

  5. Credibility???

    February 17, 2009 at 10:33 AM

    My first comment here!:) I am trying to keep this as simple as possible. Since we all began speculating about this supposed “jaw dropping” finale when “Steve” first brought it to our attention…I am concerned about his credibility IF he doesn’t make it 100% certain he knew these details BEFORE they actually take place on the Bachelor.

    That being said, I would (if I were Steve) make my clues far less “obscure” to eliminate any doubt that will most certainly exist if he doesn’t do so. If not, all of this attention he is currently getting will completely evaporate and he would’ve been far better off not ever mentioning his suppossed “exclusive” to begin with.

    For me, I am continuing to read his blog because I want to sincerely believe he knows this “shocking” conclusion. If he proves that he truly knows the outcome, he will assure himself of a very loyal following. On the other hand, if his clues continue to be so “obscure” that it won’t be crystal clear BEFORE the fact that he knew the outcome…he will lose my trust and I’m sure this will be the case for countless others as well.

    So, I hope Steve realizes this and is more concered with his “credibility” than any concern about being a “spoiler site”. If that was his concern (i.e not being a spoiler site)…there was no need to mention anything unusual to begin with.

  6. Molly

    February 17, 2009 at 10:34 AM

    We are seeing what is edited, but what Molly says and her demeaner are all her own.

  7. Anne

    February 17, 2009 at 10:38 AM

    What if he proposes to Molly. He doesn’t pick Melissa because he hasn’t met her family. I don’t think he did for the record at that point.

    It would be much scarier to break up with Molly than Melissa. I think Molly could kick his A$$.

    Then off with Melissa in the second ATFR

  8. Nicole

    February 17, 2009 at 10:40 AM

    I’m sorry if this issue has already been addressed, but dis we ever figure out how the preview of the ambulance plays into any of this

  9. Nicole

    February 17, 2009 at 10:41 AM

    I’m sorry if this issue has already been addressed, but did we ever figure out how the preview of the ambulance plays into any of this

  10. Granny

    February 17, 2009 at 10:41 AM

    Am I the only one who actually thinks that Jason DID meet Melissa’s family and they are making up this not-meeting the family story line? There are too many little things re-edited (the Jason-Melissa scene in the hot tub for instance) and the funny expressions on Melissa (like she knows she’s not telling the truth but going with the “script”) In the hot tub she says her favorite date was bringing him home. Am I way off the mark here?

  11. Anonymous

    February 17, 2009 at 10:41 AM

    1993, that was me that came on her a few days ago and said there would be a fight at the 2nd to last rose ceremony. I completely made it up. I have zero knowledge of what really goes down. Just goes to show that people will buy anything.

    If you watch the show and don’t read all the stupid theories in here, its crystal clear what will happen in the end. You won’t know how it happens, but you should be able to know what happens by now.

    Wake up people. Chris harrison’s blog is far more revealing than anything in here.

  12. Kara

    February 17, 2009 at 10:45 AM

    I don’t buy for one minute that Chris gave him his tie. They realized that there are so many people paying attention to details that they had Chris say this. That horrible tie is the same as the FRC tie, my daughter noticed this too.

  13. Meandyou

    February 17, 2009 at 10:48 AM

    Didn’t Stephanie say that Molly was very mature and acted more like a 35 years old than 25? I think we are not being shown everything about her and she’s probably a big element in what’s to come as far as drama.

  14. anon

    February 17, 2009 at 10:50 AM

    I think the whole DeAnna thing is a big red herring. I would imagine that Jason was having a difficult time making his decision because he said last night in his voice-over that he is in love with both of them. The producers saw an opportunity to drag DeAnna in for “advice” and the production was halted while Jason mulled over his decision, probably spent more time with the final 2 and Ty. At this time DeAnna came in to put in her two cents worth of useless advise. Just filler and probably she was told to tell him who he should pick. The big shock has nothing to do with anyone coming back but with what is going on between Molly and Melissa. I believe that poster that said they fought at the 2nd to last rose ceremony which would have been the one last night. The tension was incredible between those girls, which is a much different attitude than the lovely dovey scene when Stephanie and Naomi got let go. He will choose Melissa and Molly will feel used and duped and it’s what she does about it that is the big shocker.

  15. Let's Go Back:

    February 17, 2009 at 10:52 AM

    The only thing that would be jawdropping to me at this point is if Molly and Melissa are both preggers with Jason’s babies … now that would be something that never happened in The Bachelor history!

    Melissa is TOO immature for Jason – he’s starting to look like a sugar daddy for her! She’ll be dumping him in no time! Her first time being the DUMPER!

  16. NameWithheldUponRequest

    February 17, 2009 at 10:53 AM

    Next Clue:

    CONGREVE

  17. Cristy

    February 17, 2009 at 10:53 AM

    I think Dee-ugly came back before the F2. Don’t forget that Jason has that brown shirt on while talking to her and while on the date with Jillian! Did he send Jillian home because of something Dee-ugly said? Jillian deserves better! Jason sucks!!

  18. Oh no

    February 17, 2009 at 10:58 AM

    Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned, Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned,” spoken by Perez in Act 3, Scene 2. (This usually appears as “Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned”.)

    This is quote by Congreve

  19. Lore

    February 17, 2009 at 11:01 AM

    I think I have figured you out Steve…..The not who but how. Montreal….and the biggr piece of the puzzle…DeAnna telling Jason he has not handed out the final rose…It’s not too late. And you had said somewhere previously that DeAnna was telling Jason to go after her…….Being one who never believed there was any real chemistry between jason and Melissa and thinking Jason and Molly are totally wrong together, and feeling as if the only woman he had a DEEP connection with was Jillian…..could that be who DeAnna tells Jason it’s not to late…go after her about??? Could the Montreal clue be telling us this lady is Canadian???? Does he drop everything and go runnig to Canada for his true love??? I saw the look on his face last night when she grabbed him and hugged him for dear life before entering the limo and that’s when this theory hit me like a ton of bricks….Jill is the one….and thats the reason for 2 ceremonies perhap???? So how close am I steve??? huh??huh??huh???

  20. caught_up_in_it_all

    February 17, 2009 at 11:07 AM

    I’m sure this has been addressed already. Melissa’s ceramic bust has “true love” written on it, her bikini top has “true love” and if i recall someone writing that her tatoo said “true love”.

    Also, she was in the same position as Jason coming out of the limo..it was limo #2 perhaps # 3 out of the car?.

  21. impatientashell

    February 17, 2009 at 11:08 AM

    it is not the WHO (we know it is Mel, we have the proof), it is the HOW–he slept with 2/3 women (Montreal screwjob) and picked Mel on overall chemistry and love. It is dirty with a cap D and Molly is pisssed. So she interrupts the proposal to go off on Jason and tell MEL she screwed his brains out, too right before he decided she was not the one….huge confrontation at the rose ceremony–this could be it b/c I believe this is the first time the sex angle has been brought up and that really could create drama if you, on national television, get exposed as to having slept with both women. You will look like a tool–but Mel and Jason can get past it….most people have slept with other people (although not so close to a proposal)…..what a mess!

  22. Kara

    February 17, 2009 at 11:12 AM

    #2041 Montreal Screwjob might have a double meaning.

  23. Kara

    February 17, 2009 at 11:13 AM

    #2041 Montreal Screwjob might have a double meaning with both ABC and what Jason did.

  24. babs

    February 17, 2009 at 11:16 AM

    Lore
    that is what I keep coming to. Obviously we are in the minority. To me iIt totally makes sense with the “backstory” that ABC is trying to tell us. Melissa is the one that he feels the initial draw towards but Jillian is really his true love but at this point in the story line he is too blinded by Melissas inital sparkle to see it.
    This happens all of the time in real life why could it not happen on the Bachelor?

  25. Kara

    February 17, 2009 at 11:17 AM

    Steve’s recap is up!!

  26. Credibility???

    February 17, 2009 at 11:17 AM

    Quick question…what “proof” do we have at this point that Steve knows anything more than we do about the eventual outcome?

    Look at all the other posters suggesting they have suppossedly discovered this “jaw dropping” information as well. Like RS…they say they will WAIT until AFTER the finale to reveal what they knew. Isn’t this something anyone could do themselves?

    For example…it’s not about the “WHO”… but the “HOW”…with the first clues. What in the heck does that prove? I could easily “spin” that to fit the eventual outcome. Right now, it looks pretty obvious that Jason will pick Melissa as F1. Other than that…the rest is pure speculation at this point.

    Speaking of “reality”…it is kinda of unfair for all these people we really don’t know to be envisioned to be or have done something we can’t prove based upon some rather “obscure” clues. These clues have led to the ideas that some of them are pregnant, hurt hemselves, fought each other, etc. etc. etc.

    If none of that is true…it is wrong to demean their charcter based on some very “obscure” clues that could be interpreted so many different ways.

  27. Keep Me Guessing

    February 17, 2009 at 11:18 AM

    #1997 tone – I agree that Jason probably doesn’t know what real love is. I personally think he was developing that real connection with Jillian that you need to survive a marriage and yet, he sent her packing.

    #2010 – I think that RC was a re-take – too many things changed, and things didn’t add up. Jillian didn’t even say good-bye to any of the girls. It was all strange.

  28. Keep Me Guessing

    February 17, 2009 at 11:19 AM

    #2043 babs – I am holding on to Jillian possibly being the one he really loves in the end. Last night when she was opening up, he was blushing and it looked like he was having a hard time containing those butterflies! They were like best friends, they had the passion (he said it himself), and this is what’s wierd, he said “I’m falling for Jillian, I’m just not in love like I’m falling for the other two girls”. Huh? Does that make sense? So Jason still isn’t “in love” with the other two either! I believe if he had more one on one time with Jililan and if she met his family and Ty (Jason said they would have loved her), then there is no doubt in my mind that she would have been his chosen one. I think his relationship with Melissa and Molly was clouding his judgement.

    He hasn’t made smart decisions in the past, and therefore he may not understand what a real love connection is. He’s all about immediate passion and connection and I wonder if he truly understands what it takes to have a lasting marriage. Many people who’ve been in love and/or married for years will understand, that love grows and develops over time.

    I would have LOVED to see Jililan meet his parents and Ty. I think she would have been their favorite! Maybe that’s why he didn’t keep her around – he knew they would lean towards Jillian and he was leaning towards Melissa?

    In my personal opinion, if he ends up engaged to Molly or Melissa, sad to say that from what we’ve seen on TV, I don’t feel it will last long term.

  29. IworshipRS

    February 17, 2009 at 11:24 AM

    Ok. My last theory is that Jason doesn’t pick Mel because she is crap with his son. Ty doesn’t like either woman, or he prefers Molly. Jason realizes he has been planning the rest of his life based on his dick and once Ty and his family are there, the truth about Melissa not being right for him really hits him.
    Why in the hell would a guy who is scared shitless to get his heart broken again go for the young ex-cheerleader who dresses like a poor college student and has a mysterious past and strange relationship with her parents and friends.

    Either that whole storyline is made up or he doesn’t. Jason’s edit on this show made him look like an idiot- and I think that is the truth- he is one. The crew thought he would go for the intelligent and mature woman who supposedly fit his wants, but instead he went for the “jesse”, and that is what they showed. The hottub scene with Jillian was to show everyone that Jason isn’t the great guy you all thought he was.

  30. snuffypoo

    February 17, 2009 at 11:28 AM

    It may well be the editing and Molly is not what she appears on the show, but I think she will do or say anything to win for winnings sake. She comes across as a slut.

    I did want him to pick Melissa, but not anymore, she deserves a real man and I no longer respect Jason at all. He is a tv whore just like the majority of pasts bachelors and bach’ettes.

  31. gonnalosemyjob

    February 17, 2009 at 11:48 AM

    Jillian doessn’t come back people – at least he isn’t engaged to her. A Seattle tv station interviewed her following last night’s show, and she clearly has nothing to do with Jason at this point. She looks beautiful and THINNER…so hopefully that puts to rest the pregnancy theories.

    They discussed the possibility of her returning as the bachlorette, and she didn’t discount it all together. She did say there was NOT THE CONNECTION with Jason that a long term relationship requires. There is no way, based on this interview, that Jillian returns as Jason’s pick!!!

    I don’t know if this segment is available on the station’s website. But if you want to check, it was KOMO news 4 who had the interview.

  32. lore

    February 17, 2009 at 11:58 AM

    Well crap….I put a lot of thought into that Jillian theory…I guess my 2nd theory was more logical after all….Yano…The one where Jason realizes after spending 3 disatrous fantasy dates in The Bahamas….that he is really gay and runs off to Colorado, on DeAnna’s advice that it’s not too late and gives the final rose to Jesse

  33. MichiganMan

    February 17, 2009 at 12:38 PM

    “I will still have the shortened written version”

  34. campy__kc

    February 17, 2009 at 2:53 PM

    Montreal = Mol-e (meaning Molly) rant

    People say she goes off in the finale, so that sure would fit.

    Although Steve’s first clue wasn’t the word mixer that everyone thought it was, perhaps his second one is since everyone leaned toward this format the first time around. I posted right away that I thought Montreal could be Expos=expose. Heck, maybe both of Steve’s clues last week had more than one meaning and he just didn’t realize it. :p

  35. Anonymous

    February 17, 2009 at 2:55 PM

    Chris Harrison is from Texas, too…

  36. Tara17

    February 17, 2009 at 4:36 PM

    2/3 Montreal

    Two thirds of the word Montreal works out to ntreal=not real

    I really think the “not real” is the main idea here.

    While checking 2c if someone else already thought of it, I saw that some thinks it means M not real, such as Molly or Melissa, this could it as well of course.

    I think the “shocker” is that the “how” of this season was “not real”.

  37. Anonymous

    February 17, 2009 at 6:13 PM

    Celine Dion isn’t from Montreal, she’s from a town near Montreal. I think Quebec City?
    Montreal: poutine, smoked meat, french, cold, snow, I can’t find anything about Montreal that adds up. Except for the previous person who said Molly not real.

  38. Jawbreaker

    February 17, 2009 at 7:41 PM

    Jillian is gone, Stefanie is gone…they are not coming back for the finale!

  39. heather

    February 17, 2009 at 9:12 PM

    poutine – made with lots of cheese curds, RS is telling us that this show is really cheesy

  40. Rock

    February 19, 2009 at 1:17 PM

    Okay why was my post deleted?

    In a nutshell I said”

    RS is paid by ABC and is purposely misleading everyone to generate ratings.

    Mellisa was proposed too but later Jason dropped her over the family thing

    Molly is a control freak – too high strung for Jason and Ty

    Jillian moved from Calgary to Vancouver BC a mere 150 miles away in order to be closer to Jason.

    Jillian gets the guy.

    So why delete my post?

  41. fedup

    February 19, 2009 at 4:48 PM

    I honestly do not think Steve would do this for cash – period. He is simply tired of ABC’s bullshit….as am I.

  42. Anonymous

    February 19, 2009 at 4:50 PM

  43. Laurie

    February 20, 2009 at 8:36 AM

    Good Morning Steve,

    My question to you is since the time you have released your information and up until now, has anything changed? Have you found out additional information?

    Thanks.

  44. totsie

    February 27, 2009 at 3:48 PM

    the view (i know) was preempted this morning due to weather. did anyone see jason, and if so, what was the tone, what did he say. details, please. i am so caught up in this – no matter what happens i am finished with the show.

  45. totsie

    February 27, 2009 at 3:50 PM

    well, i said that a few seasons back when someone (can’t even remember his name) chose no one. so i have no willpower and probably will watch.

  46. Pam in Evansville

    March 1, 2009 at 11:10 AM

    Jason was the same as he has been all along whenever he has been interviewed. All he really ever says is that he was in love with 2 women and that he can’t give away the ending…. DUH! If you have seen any of his toher interviews, you didn’t miss a thing.

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