Update on the Megan Interview and More News Coming Later Tonight
So I’m sorry to report, but the last 35 minutes of the Megan interview is gone. Not because ABC killed it, not because I thought I’d get in trouble for airing it, and not because Megan did anything wrong. Bottom line: When I stopped recording the interview, it was 1 hour and 28 minutes long. When I saved it, I thought it saved the full file. After making it an mp3 file and creating a link, it wasn’t til then that, for whatever reason, the file only contained 53 minutes. Honestly, I have no idea what happened. So here’s where we stand right now. I spoke with Megan and she said she’d be more than glad to re-record it. But with the weekend coming up, and the finale Monday, I’m thinking maybe when this is all said and done, we’ll just have Megan come on talk about everything that just happened. I just think after Tuesday, her talking about the WTA taping won’t be as significant, even though she had some good stuff (i.e. – Jason was brought in for his segment and then left. None of the girls ever got to speak to him before the taping started backstage, nor afterwards. It’s like he was President Mesnick and was entering a hotel lobby or something with Secret Service wheeling him in and out. Don’t you find that a little odd they don’t even let him speak with anyone? And oh yeah, Jillians question to him? The only one that was asked. He never took questions from the audience, nor from any of the other 14 girls that were sitting there. Uh huh. How can you not see what’s going on here?).
So, it looks like more media is picking up on the information I had a month ago. If you’ve gotten your US Weekly this week, you’ll see I’m quoted a few times in the article on the shows finale, but also, a source that they’re claiming is with ABC production, confirms everything I said was true, even down to the “Jason was seeing Molly behind Melissa’s back.” Once again, you can choose to believe US Weekly or not. “Star” magazine has it as well in their 3 page story on the finale.
Also, one of “Access Hollywoods” insiders, Laura Saltman, posted a on her blog “Dish of Salt”, basically everything that I’ve told you for the last month as well. You can read that right here:
Dish of Salt – “What I Know About ‘The Bachelor’ Scandal
As always, you can choose to believe Laura or not. I tend to think she’s brilliant, but hey, that’s just me being biased. Although, it is pretty funny I’m not the only one who’s now talking about how this finale is made out. If you said, “Well, he’s just a blogger, he’s not credible”, fine. There’s definitely some validity to that. But when magazines and entertainment sites are running with it? Hmmmmm. Probably a little truth there, don’t you think? Whatever. Only three days away now before all this comes crashing down on everyone. Of course, the shock value will probably be worn off by then since you’ll have known about this for almost two weeks. I think most of the shock will come from you saying, “Holy crap! Reality Steve was right!”
I’ve said from the beginning that the only thing I really knew from the ATFR 1 taping in January was the outcome. Remember yesterday when I said I was getting some more info about what went down on the ATFR 1, and I’d release it Monday? Well, I’ve decided to tell you now. The outcome of the ATFR 1 taping, as you know, was that Jason dumps Melissa for Molly. I’ve said that numerous times. I’m starting to hear more information about some of the things that shake down. My sources are telling me that there is a huge meltdown which brings Jason to tears, and it comes from Melissa. I’m talking screaming him down, maybe some cursing, an overall verbal beatdown and then she storms off set. I’ve heard this from more than one source now and I feel pretty comfortable going with it. Now, the part I don’t know for sure is what caused this. But I can sure guess. If she just got broken up with, I’m guessing she’d be upset, but nothing to that extent. So I’m beginning to think more and more that Melissa’s emotional breakdown is caused by the fact that Jason does in fact tell her about Molly, and that he’s been seeing her. I really can’t think of anything else. That’s the type of reaction I’d expect when you tell your fiance, “Oh by the way, I’ve been seeing Molly.” Once again, you can choose to believe this or not. We shall see Monday. I’m 99% positive the Melissa meltdown happened based on what I’ve heard. The reason for the meltdown, Jason telling her about Molly, is speculation on my part. But I think I’m gonna be right on this one.
Now, as for what happens later tonight. Yesterday, I told you that the ATFR 2 was taped Wednesday and Melissa was part of it. Well, that was a mistake on my part. All I had heard was it was CONFIRMED they were going to tape an ATFR 2 and that Melissa would be part of it. I shouldn’t have said it was already taped because I wasn’t 100% sure. But what I had heard was that “either its done, or its going to get done”, and I jumped the gun and said its done. Woops. In the grand scheme of things, that’s meaningless though. So I was two days off as to when the ATFR 2 taped. That’s so inconsequential at this point, even though I’m sure plenty of you will jump all over me for it. Keep in mind, everything that’s important about this season is centered around the ATFR 1 taping I’ve known about for a month. That’s where the sh*t hits the fan. Who cares what day the ATFR 2 is taped on since that’s just pretty much gonna be a fluff piece anyway? Yesterday I told you it taped Wednesday but I wouldn’t have any information about it before it aired, right? Well, now I’m telling you it tapes today and I’ll have details of it tonight. I’m guessing you’re more pleased with the latest developments, so, me having the date wrong by 48 hours couldn’t be less important. Check back later if you want an update on the ATFR 2 taping today in California.
That’s it. I appreciate all the people who have now registered at RealitySteve.com so they can leave comments. Over 300 already on the first day, which is more than I ever expected. I just figured people would stop commenting. Anyway, have a great weekend, and I’ll see you Monday. Email any questions, comments, praises, criticisms, and love letters to steve@realitysteve.com.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:21 AM
I hate to say this, but I hope we get to see Melissa go off on him!
February 27th, 2009 at 2:23 AM
Hi Steve – too bad about the lost audio. But you have done such a great job keeping us in the loop. And personally, I think the wrong date has no impact on anything. Ultimately the truth is out there, and I am so happy to know that Melissa has been vindicated.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:25 AM
Jason & Molly will probably have to go into hiding. Maybe they can move into Molly’s married ex-boyfriends house, it probably has a basement!
February 27th, 2009 at 2:30 AM
If she’s that upset she probably really was blindsided. When you are hit with something so out of the blue and something you aren’t expecting you act with raw emotion. Sad.
I hope Jason does admit to seeing Molly so they can both look like the cheaters that would make them, but I need to see that to believe it. I think they along with the show will try and make it seem like it starts at ATR1 which is bunk because there’s no way she was home pissed for 2 months and then agrees to take him back.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:33 AM
I second that Nichelle. I would like to see Melissa tell him off…it does a body good…LOL and makes it that much easier to get past it. I wonder if they will edit out Jason crying or tone down Melissa’s outrage? Probably both. We will most likely see a watered down version of the real events. Thanks Steve I will definately be checking back later.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:34 AM
Looks like everything is pretty much shaping up the way you’ve predicted it Steve. I’m not sure if I’m more anxious for the finale or the satisfaction of seeing all your naysayers eat CROW! Tough choice… Thanks for opening up the comment boards again.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:34 AM
My sources are telling me that there is a huge meltdown which brings Jason to tears, and it comes from Melissa. I’m talking screaming him down, maybe some cursing, an overall verbal beatdown and then she storms off set.
I’d love to see Melissa smack Mesnick in the nose. Now that would be REALITY TV!
February 27th, 2009 at 2:39 AM
Okay – my only fear is as follows:
Leading up to my marriage, or a great trip abroad it was so exciting. The planning, the anticipation etc. Then after said event I would get depressed (the event is over, now what?)
I am so worried the same will happen to me sometime next week. Oh well, I can get some Xanax from my Dr.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:41 AM
or knee him in the groin. although, from the rather wussy edit we’ve seen, not sure that much damage would be done
February 27th, 2009 at 2:41 AM
Steve, thanks for the update. Too bad about the Megan interview. I REALLY wanted to hear what she was going to say about Molly.
As for the ATFR1, I agree that if she flies off the handle, she’d probably be reacting to finding out he was seeing Molly or that he was choosing Molly over herl. Simply breaking up because it’s not working out, she’d probably just be hurt more than outrageously pissed. Unless she’s psycho…lol That’s in jest, of course.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:46 AM
DRAGONFLY – You got it right – Not much in the lower regions… and that’s why I suggested Melissa work on the nose. More damage could be done LOL
February 27th, 2009 at 2:46 AM
I just keep thinking of Fleiss and his Network-esque ending comment.
“I’M MAD AS HELL AND I AM NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE”
February 27th, 2009 at 2:46 AM
If this is the way it went down, then Jason SHOULD cry. He is a weak, sniveling, cheating little man. What a fine example for his child. He should be ashamed.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:46 AM
I say let all the girls loose on Jason They’d let him have it!
February 27th, 2009 at 2:48 AM
RS, this part of your blog really jumped out at me:
So I’m beginning to think more and more that Melissa’s emotional breakdown is caused by the fact that Jason does in fact tell her about Molly, and that he’s been seeing her. I really can’t think of anything else. That’s the type of reaction I’d expect when you tell your fiance, “Oh by the way, I’ve been seeing Molly.â€
I’m sorry, but if this happens, how STUPID is this man? Did he not comprehend that oh, a few million(!) women in America (and some good guys too) are going to want him tarred and feathered? I think he’s fake and a jerk, but my miffed-ness at him will fade quickly as he fades into Reality Has-Been Land. But a lot of people are going to be furious! Assuming he and Molly don’t work out (Oh yeah, they’ve got great odds of working out! /sarcasm), how does the man figure he’ll ever get a date again? My word.
Seashells, if ya see this, I answered your question about reading people on the previous blog. Sorry so slow in replying.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:48 AM
8. smp — I hear you there!
February 27th, 2009 at 2:53 AM
Big Ed-just thinking that she could use a few of those high-kick maneuvers from cheerleading days and tell Molly, “well, good luck with that!”
February 27th, 2009 at 2:58 AM
Hey, does anyone consider what will be the reaction when Jason shows up at work after this is said and done? How many people will even speak to him?
Who would even trust him?
Would he even be able to keep his job? His reputation will be on the floor. He will regret he even accepted this gig.
He can’t blame anyone … not our host … not Fleiss … not anyone…
RS is only a messenger telling folks about info found out.
And he knew the mechanations of Fleiss going in from his time in DeAnna’s series, where he was there till the end.
He really messed himself up by going along with Fleiss in this nonsense…
February 27th, 2009 at 2:58 AM
Steve,
You are doing a great job, but your lack of humilty makes if difficult for people to believe you.
You have been in communications as a profession!
Get back to basics.
You are not the story, tell the story.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:59 AM
DRAGONFLY (#17) I think you’ve got something there…
February 27th, 2009 at 3:01 AM
Btw, I do believe you. I am the nagging Mom teacher nightmare.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:01 AM
12 Kam…Network comment was the first thing I thought about. ABC is doing it for what they call good tv (ratings), however, I just can’t get pass the reality that Jason would go along dumping Mel in front of national tv. I am simply stunned that someone who has been portrayed as Mr. Sensitive would do this. And, I’m not buying it one second if they try to spin it that he and Molly hooked up ATFR. Not one.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:05 AM
venus-No way if they are together did it happen after ATR1. I would hope no one is so gullible that they would believe that. I don’t however seeing Jason or Molly admitting to cheating behind her back.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:05 AM
Well i’d certainly never buy insurance from him.
I was on the fence all along about it being set up from the start but after the AH story I am now at 95% it was.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:07 AM
he may have had so much $$$$ thrown at him that he won’t have to go back to selling insurance. maybe now he can afford a houseboat on Lake Union. Chris Harrison is quoted in one of his conversations with Jason as having asked Jason what he intended to do when this was over. I thought Jason’s response was curious: “he’s done with Hollywood…for awhile.” Odd.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:11 AM
21 Queen…Steve is part of the story…. a big part since he was the first one to break it. He’s had a lot of people slamming him on his blog and people mis read his what he says constantly so he has had to remind them when something does happen that he said was going to happen that they heard it from him first. Phew..what a long ’sentence.’ I’m just trying to say he has every reason to be pumped up. I don’t see it as lack of humility at all.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:12 AM
RS certainly seems to be pretty spot on. Mainstream media is reporting on it now and I don’t think they would unless they had several of their own sources to back it up.
I hope they don’t edit out all the good stuff now that the info was leaked. If they wanted drama they should let us all see it.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:13 AM
I haven’t seen a TV show get more attention since “Dallas”. “Who shot JR?” LOL… Crazy, crazy!! And, we knew that was scripted!!
February 27th, 2009 at 3:14 AM
Steve, guess it’s all shaping out as you’ve predicted.. From TB last year, I developed great respect for Jason and thought of him as a kind and honerable man… It woud be shameful if he hurt Melissa for ABC’s ratings and his own personable gain.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:15 AM
Yankee…I think ABC will paint their star in such brillance that the majority of tv land folks will buy into it. After all, we are dealing with people who job is to make believe all the time.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:16 AM
Can anyone confirm the rumours that Molly and Jason got engaged in Hawaii ????
February 27th, 2009 at 3:16 AM
#28- angbaby
After all these years, we now know who shot JR – Jason Mesnick…
February 27th, 2009 at 3:17 AM
#28 – Can you even imagine what it would of been like if we had the net during the “Who Shot JR” story? It would of been something else.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:18 AM
one of the things that bothers me the most is that this guy reportedly has a degree in Psychology.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:19 AM
BigEd,
Thanks for clearing that up!
Ah ha!! Finally, we know!!! Whew! Now, I can deal with this show.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:20 AM
Degree in psychology, that is very scarry ! !
February 27th, 2009 at 3:20 AM
smp,
You know I never thought of that!! Excellent point! It would have been MURDER! Um…no pun intended…;)
February 27th, 2009 at 3:21 AM
Hey Steve, it’s OK that you make mistakes, none of us are perfect. The people who nitpick every word you write are just here to look for faults, they’re not worth your concern. The fact you can admit when you’re wrong is cool.
I think we will get to see the Melissa melt-down, it’s fantastic tv. It won’t make Jason look good but oh well, it’s too good to pass up. Why? It’ll lead to increased ratings for the Tuesday night show because everyone will go to work and talk about Melissa going off on Jason. Then we’ll tune in Tuesday night and Melissa will apologize for freaking out and she’s doing great now and blah blah blah snooze.
I still can’t figure out why Molly would want Jason after he did that to Melissa. She really is 24 years old afterall. Jillian would’ve laughed in his face and told him to take a hike. (I’m sure Steve’s 24 yr old readers are a lot more mature, experienced, and smarter than Molly.)
February 27th, 2009 at 3:23 AM
#36 – Remember – Mesnick knows Bevin Powers from the Lt Andy series, and she had a degree in Psycology… She was working on her Masters when she did the show… So what is it with all the Psycology degrees
February 27th, 2009 at 3:23 AM
The fact that the format of the WTA changed and Jason was so protected from everyone but his handlers is also telling. They’ve got him in a bubble from the ladies, audience and anyone else they can’t control. In one of his interviews he did say that he and fiance, when asked if they would get married on tv, were looking to get back to normal and off tv. I don’t think we’ll be seeing Jason on any Reunion shows in the future.
And it won’t simply be because he wants off tv..it’s because the public won’t want waste their time listening/ seeing him after they learned they’ve been duped.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:25 AM
38 – I believe ur onto something, maybe Jillian dumped Jason ATFR could be real reason he felt uncomfortable and cooly abrupt towards her at the WTA!
February 27th, 2009 at 3:25 AM
venus-I hope not. If Mel goes off I hope they let us see the real reason why but the edit has me worried as well. When someone acts out of so much raw emotion it is because they are in pain. I think she really was blindsided. In the edit no matter how mich they edit it Jason will know the truth and have to live with it if he does the break on tv. I do worry that show will edit the crap out of it to try and make RS, etc. look wrong.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:26 AM
Molly wants him because he’s the grand (or not) prize in this competition, Perhaps she can borrow Pageant Queen Nikki’s sash, sceptor and tiara.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:27 AM
#40 Venus : Exactly – another aspect of what I was talking about in post #18
February 27th, 2009 at 3:28 AM
43 – LOL
February 27th, 2009 at 3:29 AM
Molly needs a new hairstylist, that pony tail has to go !
February 27th, 2009 at 3:30 AM
Tiara? I thought that was that Erica from P-Lo’s series who was the tiara-keeper. Remember the eccentric “Socialite” from Houston
February 27th, 2009 at 3:32 AM
39 – Mom of the octuplets also working on a psycholocy degree ! weird !
February 27th, 2009 at 3:32 AM
I know – she looks so pretty w/her hair down.
I think RS should do a drawing and award the winner free Molly Maids for a month. My poor house.
Good night all, you’ve been lots of fun & amazing
February 27th, 2009 at 3:33 AM
In this season’s opening “meet the ladies” montage, they showed Nikki polishing her coffee table wearing her pageant sash and crown. We’ve all seen her insecurities but, please, can you imagine doing that for a camera?
February 27th, 2009 at 3:33 AM
48 – Crazyworld – you bring her up and it makes Jason look good
February 27th, 2009 at 3:35 AM
Very funny dragonfly. Queen Molly! Ha. Well, the only thing royal about this couple is they and this saga are royal pain the the arse. I hope the edit lets us see the raw pain and/or anger..not Jason’s, but Mel’s. If he cries ..oh that will be milked big time. Women get misty over a guy crying.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:36 AM
I don’t know. I think he learned the insta-tear trick from MEMEAnna.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:37 AM
Venus,
I know what you are saying, and I agree that his being pumped up (which is deserved) is because he is trying really hard to please everyone and stay true to himself and his word. I applaud that.
Psssst Steve, however as a Mom we need to talk.
You trust your sources, you trust yourself, it doesn’t matter if others do not trust you. You know you.
Your heart is in the right place, and from what I have read you are a very empathetic and sympathetic young man. KEEP those qualities and do not get jaded, cryptic and don’t become “Un-Humilitied”!
Just be you and take off the armor.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:37 AM
I read somewhere that Molly is pregnant. Does anyone think this is true?
February 27th, 2009 at 3:37 AM
50 – LOL, Nikki might feel more secure as a ‘ pageant maid ‘ !
February 27th, 2009 at 3:42 AM
Melissa’s emotional outburst–I wonder if they will edit out that Jason was seeing Molly behind her back.
I could just see an edit where Jason doesn’t really dump Melissa, per se, but he does express reservation about their relationship and the fact that he still has feelings for Molly… cut to Melissa’s blows-up and storming out. Did Jason really dump Melissa on national TV? Or was it Melissa who walked out in a fit of rage?
Unless they plan to throw Jason under the bus, I think it will be edited to look like Jason never intended to hurt Melissa. Rather, as painful as it might be, in the long-run, he was doing what was in the best interest of everyone involved by being “honest” and “upfront” now–sooner rather than later.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:42 AM
In the reject limo Nikki went on and on and on about never being good enough even though she didn’t know how much prettier or smarter she could get. I couldn’t help but pretend to be Megan – MAN UP!!!
February 27th, 2009 at 3:43 AM
V..No I don’t think that is true at all. People have said a zillion things about just about everyone on that show.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:43 AM
Steve-O, good call on the sign in. Wow, has the tide ever turned on the doubters – mostly kooks from this freak show called “MisfitsRus.com” in which some imposter pretending to be Jason’s mother posts creepy things like “I’m singing on the way to the chapel…Jason’s such a good boy.” Not kidding – reality TV has gotten out of hand!!
February 27th, 2009 at 3:44 AM
I don’t think Molly is pregnant. I do think show knows a crap storm is coming. Jason isn’t the President he should be able to handle some questions from the women he dumped so they can get closure.
I wonder if he was kept so protected because they knew the leaks had started and didn’t want Jason questioned on anything.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:46 AM
Notice how all the dupe accounts all backing up one another mysteriously disappeared? lol
February 27th, 2009 at 3:47 AM
55- rumours out that Molly and Jason getting engaged and possiblly married in Hawaii. Reported pics on jokersupdates with Molly in a white long gown. Her hair is a darker brown and in a ponytail.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:49 AM
One of the interesting questions that will likely never be fully answered is when the other women started to realize something was “off”. There are already comments being attributed to several of them, which makes the Women Tell All even more pointless.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:49 AM
Ya DragonFly..I liked Megan’s MAN-UP statement.
That’s a good one.
Sms…sounds like you have got some good thinking going on there. I think they will do everything they can to protect their Bach. After all, if the want to have future seasons so it behooves them to show him in the best possible light.
And Queen..I think we should call you Queen Mom. Good posts.
Keith moom..did you miss the freak show that this blog was turning into until RS had to step in and require the sign up. It got ugly fast
February 27th, 2009 at 3:52 AM
The good news about all of this getting out is people won’t take everything they see for fact and will realize show has the ability to edit it quite a bit. They must show Jason say something about a break in order for her to get so upset.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:53 AM
Yankee…they are asleep..as I should be..and they will be back tomorrow riping RS post to shreds. Trust me they will.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:53 AM
I don’t think I’ve ever been so eager to see the finale of a show, lol.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:55 AM
I think after this season ends we will hear from several of the ladies from the show. According to a summerization of that contract they person did mention it didn’t seem to be so tight on stopping disclosure. I would love to hear from them.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:58 AM
venus, I would love to hear from them as well. I wonder what exactly the contract entails. Is a contract like this supposed to be private or would they be allowed to show people I wonder?
February 27th, 2009 at 3:59 AM
Sorry about the typo’s. Guess I’m sleepy and it’s starting to show. Yes, I can’t wait until this whole ridiculous saga is over. What does this ever say about me?! Hooked on this stupid reality show. Like someone posted earlier…will need help with the withdrawals.
February 27th, 2009 at 4:02 AM
Get the popcorn and a few drinks ready for Monday night, goodnight all !
February 27th, 2009 at 4:04 AM
If things about the out come of this show was leaked to RS I have no doubt a contract can also find it’s way into someone’s hands..with the name of the Bach/Ette white-out. An old contract was posted a few threads ago. It was 17 pages long..and yes, I read the whole dang thing.
February 27th, 2009 at 4:06 AM
Goodnight CrazyWorld..and it is indeed a crazy world! I’m going to sign off as well. See ya’ll tomorrow ..probably. Can’t wait until the doubters wake up!
February 27th, 2009 at 4:11 AM
yeah, they were afraid if they let people start asking questions at WTA someone would let the cat out of the bag in front of the studio audience. I think they gave Jillian the OK to ask her one question and nobody else had a chance before Jason was ushered off stage.
Very Very suspicious!
#60: I actually feel sorry for the MisFits, they desperately wanted to believe what they were told because they “love” Jason soooooo much. It’s unfortunate someone played them big time. They may be gullible but nobody really deserves to have their emotions manipulated like that, and apparently it’s been a long-term hoax which makes it even worse.
February 27th, 2009 at 4:16 AM
These people have to live with themselves after all of this is over. I firmly believe that what goes around comes around and karma might a real bitch for some in the not so distant future. If they cheated, lied, misled, etc. it will catch up one day. It always does.
February 27th, 2009 at 4:51 AM
I’m happy this is coming out. You are the man, Reality Steve!
I’m really curious why the people on the Bachelor thought they could get away with this and I think they are REALLY going to pay when it gets out that this is all a farce. There’s going to be a huge backlash against the way Melissa was treated. Was this because her parent’s were against the publicness of it all? Goodness I hope not.
What in the world does this say about Jason? OK, Jason is pure scum to do this, period. He should have never gone along with it. What did they offer him?? And what about his revolving door at home with these women around Ty? Incredible.
As for Molly, I agree with your theory that she was most likely kept in the dark so they could a “true” reaction and then told her afterwards the truth, otherwise her and Jason couldn’t have been seeing each other, but a) How could she be happy with Jason knowing it was a farce and that he put her through thinking she was runner-up? Is that what someone does to somebody they love? and b) Why would she see Jason knowing that he is still engaged and that this will DESTROY Melissa, who is clueless??? Oh my!
If nobody has said this Steve, I will: It is awesome that you came forward with this story because the behavoir of the shop and its handlers along with Jason & Molly is appalling and should be known. The lengths they will go to for ratings and money. I a) hope this isn’t all a big farce where everything at the end is staged and Melissa is in on it too and b) That people get what’s coming to them whatever the truth is.
WHAT IS THE TRUTH??? You tell it Reality Steve. You are the only person I believe at the point. LOL Yall the greatest blogger ever!
February 27th, 2009 at 4:51 AM
steve-thanks for the update. i am glad you did the sign in thing. it was getting crazy on here. I know you will be glad when this is all said and done. hopefully you won’t have withdrawals!! to be a fly on the wall of the detractors that have been vicious to you and your supporters.
smp–regarding #8 comment use this board as a support group. i was the same way after i went to italy and came back and thought–there is not one da*n thing to look forward to now! Crash! That was 2.5 years ago and i am planning my next italy trip. woo hoo…just keep planning fun things! i will be glad so i can focus on school.
February 27th, 2009 at 5:13 AM
You know, after posting I had another wicked thought/theory:
Ok-let’s go with the fact that Jason agreed to this for cash or material gain. He had to get something. Nobody IS THIS STUIPID, right? With me?
Now clearly the show’s producers and handlers are something special here. In fact calling them snakes is too kind, but can you trust them or Jason after this? No. NO NOOOOO.
So, what do you wanna bet that the producers will feed Jason to the fish and show all the smackdown that Melissa gives him?
It will be too good TV and the ratings will soar. And all they have to do is spin a story and stick to it.
Chris Harrison, “I’m proud of Jason.” OK-This I’ve GOT to see because NOTHING here is anything to be proud of. (I’ve cheated on you and I’m now breaking it off, so I’m a saint?? Don’t think that pig will fly, yall)
I truely believe that they will leave Jason hanging in the wind.
Goodbye Melissa
Goodbye Molly (She’ll dump him. Ask Steve Fowler about the power of the media and a negative image)
Goodbye fantastic job (See above)
Goodbye Deanna. Just cause I’m sick of seeing her. LOL
Question of the Day. Will Ty’s mom come forward and try to get back custody of Ty? I would use this show as reasoning… Hmm. So far she has been classy and stayed out of all of this, but after this latest lie, how can she??? It will reflect on her.
First: How can she dump Jason, the poor puppy dog?
Second: How could she have married such a loser?
And Jason will deserve every bit of it.
February 27th, 2009 at 6:16 AM
At this point, I could use a laugh. Couldn’t yall?
There is a great youtube vid that is a must watch.
A short preview of Tuesday night. Classic!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dol0BcAcyx4
February 27th, 2009 at 6:18 AM
Steve you are the best. I can hardly wait until Monday night. Steve you were right it sounds like Melissa was blindsided. I know her parents are glad they were not part of this Mess, or was that staged also?
February 27th, 2009 at 6:41 AM
#80 Owl
That was a good laugh…Its really nice that u took the time to make something like that….I scenario #2, although Mel shouldn’t have done a number only on Molly, she should’ve beat up St.Jason and CH too
February 27th, 2009 at 7:25 AM
I just don’t understand the reasoning that Fleiss used. Mainly women watch this show. Women want a true love story. If we find out: Melissa was cheated on and dumped by our prince, Jason loved Melissa from the get go, Jason was led by TPTB to manufacture this story, we will stop watching the next Bachelor and Bachelorettes. They are all about making the $$$$$$$. How do they win in the next seasons shows?
February 27th, 2009 at 7:40 AM
Mesnick is going to be on The View this morning, Feb. 27 at 11:00est.
February 27th, 2009 at 7:47 AM
I just wanted to say how much I appreciate the blog & am sorry assholes are ruining it for ya!
I feel so badly for Melissa – I can’t even imagine – it sucks to get dumped, but on national television? For ratings? ABC should be ashamed – but I doubt they even care.
Thanks again RS! Hope you have a great weekend – You’ll get your life back after Tuesday I guess! LOL
Mo-
February 27th, 2009 at 7:52 AM
I feel sorry for you if all goes down as written, Steve, because you are going to be one busy fellow for a while. However, after you’ve answered all your emails, summed up the entire season’s scenario and take off some time for R&R, please don’t make us wait till Sept to blog. It’s been a great ride with you at the helm, but it will be like coming down from that great wave–how do you top that?
Loved hearing the tale unfold and for giving those wishing to leave midseason a reason to stay to see your predictions come true. ABC should give you a percentage of the last few shows because you’ve certainly increased the numbers of viewers watching. We all know that won’t happen, but at least your’re getting to be known in other media outlets.
Thanks for that thrilling bumpy ride!
February 27th, 2009 at 7:55 AM
Jason was on Jimmy Kimmel last night (2-26-09). Did anyone watch? Is there a link to it yet? Thanks.
February 27th, 2009 at 8:00 AM
I hope Melissa lets him have it good. It still irks me that me whined about DeAnna letting him get down on one knee. Viewers are going to hate him–no wonder he acted the way he did at the WTA, he knows just what is coming. Even the ABC interviewers, will still ask him about it–they may not ask the real tough questions, but I can see Ellen & Kimmel asking him what in the world was he thinking???
February 27th, 2009 at 8:15 AM
I really hope – whether they show it or not – that Melissa let’s him have it. One of those where the words will hit him right where it hurts! I also hope that after this experience she finds some strength and confidence, which will hopefully lead to her making better choices in the men she dates. She seems like a sweet girl, but she needs to stop being a doormat. If she had more self-respect, she wouldn’t allow herself to be treated in such a way. I’m sure this will be a life changing experience, and I wish her the best. In regards to Jason and Molly, it sounds like they deserve each other. What goes around comes around, though!
February 27th, 2009 at 8:27 AM
RS,
Please, have Megan talk about the WTA! I know it may not be ’significant’, but I really want to know what happened.
Thanks!
February 27th, 2009 at 8:28 AM
Isn’t it interesting that they are keeping Mesnick’s interviews in a “safe” environment – the ABC network (Kimmel, The View)….
February 27th, 2009 at 8:43 AM
THanks for the info Steve. I hope that whatever footage we see of Melissa’s reaction to the breakup was edited by someone with some sense of compassion and humanity. Melissa should not have to endure having her own personal agony splayed across the screen for its sheer entertainment value. I would like to think the show’s producers had some trouble sleeping the night after that session taped. Rather then “ABC Grew a brain” – we may have “Insider Grew A Conscience” (hence the leaks).
February 27th, 2009 at 8:49 AM
Steve,
Thanks for doing a great job of handling all of this craziness!! I really got hooked into this season because a long-lost friend of mine appeared as a contestant. Through this crazy reality world ,we have now re-connected and communicated. We are looking forward to seeing each other again. However, she can not speak very much to me directly until this madness is over!! That is my silver lining!!
I am so thankful my friend was not picked although she got close!! At first I was so mad at Jason. Now I just feel sorry for Ty. That child has to live with him for a Dad. One day Ty will see how this all took place. How will Jason explain himself then? What kind of role-model is that? I do feel bad for Melissa, but I think she needs to count her blessings that she did not marry Jason. As far as Molly is concerned, I do not think that I would take Jason for one second if I were in her position. I mean really!!! This very well may spell then end of the Bachelor. I have always had the guilty pleasure of watching the show, but this is beyond crazy.
Steve, thanks for the honest reporting and giving us a great re-cap and a fun season. I will see if my friend wants to “talk” after the show. However, knowing her, she is probably too nice to say anything “bad.” I also loved to Megan interview. I always liked her on the show and I thought she was given a bad edit. I really appreciate her willingness to be interviewed and share some insight. She is a beautiful and intelligent woman with a wonderful life ahead of her.
I will miss visiting your site after all of this Steve!!!
February 27th, 2009 at 9:02 AM
#38. lemon | February 27th, 2009 at 3:21 am
I still can’t figure out why Molly would want Jason after he did that to Melissa. She really is 24 years old afterall. Jillian would’ve laughed in his face and told him to take a hike. (I’m sure Steve’s 24 yr old readers are a lot more mature, experienced, and smarter than Molly.)
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she’s probably thinking an engaged man is one step up from a married man!
February 27th, 2009 at 9:03 AM
Steve,
Trying not to be cliche, BUT, thanks for making this the most dramatic Bachelor season yet!
How ABC will be able to spin/edit this should be interesting.
btw, #80, the youtube video is a riot – thanks!
February 27th, 2009 at 9:04 AM
I am so proud of you Steve and love love love the fact that all of those doubters are going to feel like idiots come Monday. I know Star sometimes puts out BS but I get my USWeekly in the mail and they are usully pretty credible. I doubt they would publish this info if they thought it had NO truth behind it.
Also, does anybody know what thread the Hawaii pics are on from Jokers that are supposedly Molly? A “coworker” posted on another blog severl weeks ago that when Molly came back to work she had much darker hair. That makes send that some reported Jason & a dark brunette in Hawaii recently….but all of the RS doubters were sure it was Mel. Dummies!
But I do feel very bad for Mel is this happened. I hope she smacks him.
February 27th, 2009 at 9:09 AM
#57. sms | February 27th, 2009 at 3:42 am
Melissa’s emotional outburst–I wonder if they will edit out that Jason was seeing Molly behind her back.
I could just see an edit where Jason doesn’t really dump Melissa, per se, but he does express reservation about their relationship and the fact that he still has feelings for Molly… cut to Melissa’s blows-up and storming out. Did Jason really dump Melissa on national TV? Or was it Melissa who walked out in a fit of rage?
Unless they plan to throw Jason under the bus, I think it will be edited to look like Jason never intended to hurt Melissa. Rather, as painful as it might be, in the long-run, he was doing what was in the best interest of everyone involved by being “honest†and “upfront†now–sooner rather than later.
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now that’s how abc could partially redeem it’s self in my mind! throw jason and molly under the bus! go with what their audience is feeling. would serve them both right. when you work with snakes – you’re going to get bitten!
February 27th, 2009 at 9:10 AM
I hope Melissa kicks his ass and Mollys… now THAT would be a good show hehe
February 27th, 2009 at 9:14 AM
#83. tone | February 27th, 2009 at 7:25 am
I just don’t understand the reasoning that Fleiss used. Mainly women watch this show. Women want a true love story. If we find out: Melissa was cheated on and dumped by our prince, Jason loved Melissa from the get go, Jason was led by TPTB to manufacture this story, we will stop watching the next Bachelor and Bachelorettes. They are all about making the $$$$$$$. How do they win in the next seasons shows?
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maybe tv pimp fleiss asked his infamous cousin heidi fleiss what women want!
February 27th, 2009 at 9:18 AM
Maybe Melissa can go all Mary on Jason. Once Molly moves into the basement instead of the apartment by the sea (sounds like a new tuna flavor), reality will hit…and it’ll be too late to save face. Speaking of face, hers always looks frozen. Or is that just me? Jason, well, to quote “he’s got guts”. How come I don’t hear that quote anymore? And his guts..they will be spilled all over the place by many, many mad women!! Jason may have to shave his head (I heard he is balding anyhow), grow a beard (hey, he kept doing that on the show, what happened to his razor?) and wear shades. And..stay away from the public for a long time. As DP would say “How’s that work’n for ya?”
February 27th, 2009 at 9:24 AM
I sure hope that they show us ALL of it – it’s the least they can do at this point. Thanks for the new info and I can’t wait until tonight. My hubby thinks I’m crazy because I’m obsessed at this point – he now asks me when he gets home from work what the latest is!! LOL
February 27th, 2009 at 9:26 AM
Steve – YOU ROCK! When I first heard the rumblings of this, I thought “Holy Sheet*…. it’s finally been proven. I have suspected for several seasons that this was a pre-planned fraud.
Maybe the first fiew seasons were “real”… but come on… do we really believe that Shayne wasn’t preselected by Matt?
I digress… this season was obvious. Jason’s face looked like he was going to puke every time he had serious conversations. Go back and watch his hometown with Jillian — so many times his face looked like someone’s who disgusted and totally turned off of what is in front of him. Watch!
So… thank you Steve for being a super sleuth
February 27th, 2009 at 9:31 AM
I would personally love to see the girls go all “Jerry Springer” on Jason, and I did notice and thought it was odd that the other girls didn’t talk to Jason.
Steve, I love the site and admit I am an addict, but you constantly reminding us that you were the one that broke the story and you knew details before everyone else is just getting annoying now. You’re starting to come across as arrogant. I’ve found myself skimming to get past the “see-I-told-you-so” to just get to the basic details we are all salivating to read (and end up spending a good part of our days just sitting here refreshing!)
Yes, ABC and the world concedes to you. You are the Reality TV Information God. You will go down in infamy as the one that bent ABC over and stuck it to ‘em. You will probably even become a Trivial Pursuit question.
I know, I will be cursed now for saying anything derogatory against our demigod. I still love, Steve, though.
Oh, and it IS alright to say “y’all”. The force is strong with you, but eventually, you will come to the dark side.
February 27th, 2009 at 9:37 AM
To think that when I first heard from Steve that something was going to happen that my first thought was that Melissa turned down his proposal. I actually was feeling sorry for him!!
February 27th, 2009 at 9:43 AM
Thank you RS!!!
This is sooooo much better now!
‘Good golly miss Molly’…..What could yeow have been thinking?!?
So sorry that Melissa had to be treated this way!To be mislead and humiliated publicly just for $$$$$ is the lowest depth a show can sink to.
That’s NOT entertainment,it is DISCUSTING!!!!!
MF (fitting initials by the way),this show has been going down the tubes for quite some time now,this kind of crapola isn’t going to help revive it. At this time you might as well ‘dig a ditch and bury the b***h’ because viewers and people on the show have been screwed with enough!
“We’re mad as hell, and we’re NOT going to take it anymore!!
Jason, you get what you give buddy…so you’ve got that going for you.
I’m so sure it took real guts for you to do what you did,right? Whatever!
Whew,I feel a little better
Where is Dr. Diversion anyway????That poster was hillarious!!
Thanks guys,and gals, for letting me vent. This has all been like the ‘twilight zone’…another dimension of sight and sound…oh nevermind.
Carry On
February 27th, 2009 at 9:50 AM
If all of this happens as Steve say it will… ABC can tape 10 extra ATR shows….but that won’t stop most women from wanting to see Jason in traction!
Who in the insurance business would ever be able to trust him?
How will Molly be able to conduct business when everyone will know her part in this mess?
The backlash will be bad for all involved…because all of this could have been done privately. No need (except greed) to show any of this on television.
I hope Melissa hurts Jason…where it counts.
February 27th, 2009 at 9:51 AM
oh btw, #80
freakin’ hilarious!
February 27th, 2009 at 9:58 AM
I sure hope Mel demanded a crap load of extra money to do this extra ATFR 2, she deserves it! I think we will know whether she was in on it by her choice to do, or not to do … the Bachelorette!! If she does do it … we know she was always in on it and we can stop feeling bad for her, if she wasn’t she will have nothing to do with it … and then we can feel really sorry for her
February 27th, 2009 at 10:13 AM
Well done RS. I also believe that you are the one on top of things here. I hope that Melissa has a bash down on Jason, from what I am reading, he definitely deserves it big time.
February 27th, 2009 at 10:16 AM
Hi, Reality Steve ~
If you are actually reading all your comments, you are a bigger man than I am! [And the fact that I am actually a dainty girl is irrelevant.]
I have been an occasional watcher of the slezefest known as TB over the years for the fun, cheese & easy snark factors and just wanted you to know that once I discovered your blog a few seasons back, I *truly* enjoyed coming here for the laughs!
I rarely if ever posted and I’ve been avoiding the comments section recently because it was just no fun anymore! I only took the time to register & comment today so I could say thanks for the laughter, levity & good cheer you’ve provided. It’s more than worth these few minutes of my time. Solidarity, man.
KEEP ON LAUGHING!
Love, lil’d
February 27th, 2009 at 10:17 AM
It would appear that they are really trying to follow the movie, “Sleepless in Seattle” very closely. I cannot think this is an accident. Meg Ryan is engaged to one wonderful person (albeit he is very OCD) and can’t get another one off her mind. She decides to follow her heart and then changes back to the original plan. At the end she realizes her mistake, breaks her engagement and goes to Tom Hanks and his adorable son, who actually brought the two together. I am sure that ABC/Fleiss was salivating at the opportunity to bring this script to their show. If Ty, at the end, is the one who convinced Dad that molly was the one, they have really scripted this well. However, they did not count on the scenario being exposed and now damage control will be in effect.
I feel sure that Melissa will be trashed in the editing of the finale and the AFTR. How else can they keep Jason “smelling lile a rose”? It all makes me very sad because a 4 year old is involved and this will affect his life. Jason is not the sweet soulful man previously portrayed. To me he appears to be a snivelling, self-centered player and I am mad at myself for wasting so much time watching this train wreak of a season. I hope Melissa delivers a punch to him that his grandchildren feel!
February 27th, 2009 at 10:19 AM
p.s. Didn’t mean to bold all that and I can actually spell ’sleaze’ – but you get the point.
Carry on, good snarkers!
February 27th, 2009 at 10:22 AM
I agree with the point that if Melissa agrees to appear on anything associated with this franchise, we will know she was a willing participant from the beginning. However, I still doubt that she is that good of an actress, IMO.
What about this….
ridiculous amounts of money were offered for photos of Brangelina’s children. Why don’t several media outlets/publications jointly ante up the $5 million for Melissa so she can blow the whistle on this entire affair?
What a hoot that would be! Though she would make out like a bandit monetarily, we would feel vindicated, and the story of “truth exposing a sham” would give the public a much needed morale boost.
We could all scream “I’m mad as hell, and I am not gonna take it anymore.” BTW, did anyone else notice that at the Oscars (broadcast by ABC) they showed that clip during one of their video clip montages? Just found that interesting…
February 27th, 2009 at 10:23 AM
#80 OMG you need to post that on the ABC boards, that was freaking hysterical…..! LOVE IT>
February 27th, 2009 at 10:36 AM
Has anyone watched The View today? Jason is supposed to be on the show. Can someone recap what was said or if he even showed up? No youtube here at work.
February 27th, 2009 at 10:37 AM
Thanks for the latest, Steve.
Now the troll (IMHO) over at the MisFits board who is pretending to be Jason’s mom (as if!) is saying that Molly is pregnant. Clearly trying to stir things up, as this person has done for months now.
I wonder what kind of edit we’ll see on Monday. Will they edit as planned, to soften Jason’s image, to counter any perceived bad publicity, to counter RS and others who’ve come out with behind-the-scenes info, or what?
Whether or not we see it, I do hope Melissa went off on him.
February 27th, 2009 at 10:38 AM
My .2 cents are that if Jason was an honest man, like he claims to be and this whole thing was fake and they made him do this to Melissa why didn’t he just say no! Do you guys really think that ABC was going to sue him for doing what he really wanted to do? I don’t think so because that would make them look bad and show everyone in america the show is fake, EVEN more dramatic yet. So bottom line HE agreed because he wanted to and he lied to poor Melissa with no regrets. Nothing can save his reputation or his honesty at this point.
February 27th, 2009 at 10:39 AM
You know I hate to say it, but Lynn of MisFits was wrong in Matt’s season, she was wrong last season (Deanna); why does she think she’s right this season.
After the debacle that was last season (Deanna) I was offered the “opportunity” to participate in the BLF board (before it became the MisFits), I decided against it as they’d been so far off in left field for the previous two versions.
Makes me sad that they are so convinced they “know” the ending because of someone who “purports” to be Jason’s Mom.
February 27th, 2009 at 10:41 AM
Thanks for requiring pre-registration prior to commenting. Will make it much easier for people like me who comment rarely but browse frequently.
I believe Steve’s blog. Makes the most sense to me. I could never understand why the 2 AFTR and why one was so much more emotional and intense. A family “meet and greet” of Melissa’s parents just didn’t make the cut for me. That would not be all that intense, and since they would not meet Jason even off camera during the taping of the show, I found no reason to believe they would be involved in the show post taping.
Question for the thread or Steve – doesn’t the Bachelor contract include a clause forbidding him from contacting any past Bachelorettes for a certain span of time. I’m still questionning on whether ABC/Fleiss would choreograph the entire season, however the only way Jason would willingly see Molly is if he knew he would not be breaking his contract. I can see Jason being confused and torn on who to choose at the final rose ceremony (he’s been a mess since early into the season). I can see ABC / Fleiss setting up a way where Jason could continue to see Molly post taping.
February 27th, 2009 at 10:42 AM
Dragonfly, remember that Molly already had her crown with the silly hats at her parents home and Jason had the chief headdress. So, the queen wins the chief in the end.
February 27th, 2009 at 10:49 AM
By the way – that does not excuse Jason in the slightest. If he was engaged to Melissa then he should not be seeing other women.
February 27th, 2009 at 10:52 AM
#121 Nothing excuses a man or woman who cheats! However, if this scenario was set up from the get-go (as Steve believes) then maybe he felt he wasn’t “cheating” in the true sense of the word. I don’t know, to set someone up for humiliation really is the lowest of the low.
I just read the blog linked in Steve’s message and she’s pretty certain that what Steve has been telling us is fact as well.
I will watch Monday and probably Tuesday just to see how it all goes down.
February 27th, 2009 at 10:53 AM
#101 At least your husband sounds interested. Mine is about to have me committed!!
February 27th, 2009 at 10:56 AM
#80 here. I’m glad everyone liked the youtube clip. I thought it was hilarious too when I saw it trolling on youtube. As much as I’d like to take credit for it ’cause its brilliant, it was made by emeelee or some such named person IIRC. The name & creds are at the very end of the clip, as well as the music used for those interested. Its already posted on the ABC site, so its not mine.
Cheers,
The owl.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:02 AM
anyone see the view preview? they just said “jason will be here next week to talk about his change of mind after handing out the final rose”
February 27th, 2009 at 11:03 AM
#122 Even if it was set-up, Melissa doesn’t know so that totally sucks as I’m sure you’ll agree. Why can’t Molly & Jason wait until he can break off the engagement with Melissa? That’s the second part of this that blows me away! First is trashing her on national TV…then oh by the way, we’re so hot for each other, etc. etc. we couldn’t wait. I wonder if she’s gotten wind of it? That would really make that 1st rose ceremony a dozy…what’s this crap I hear about you and Molly in Seattle? And what about the lies to Melissa about where he was on the weekends he was with Molly? There wasn’t just one lie, but a huge bundle of them. A lie to support a lie to cover up a lie. I’m sorry, Too bad you got caught in the middle…no hard feelings just doesn’t cut it!!!!!
February 27th, 2009 at 11:08 AM
Owl, not going to disagree, I was just playing Jason (devil’s advocate) and how he might be thinking; maybe in his mind because it was a set up he was OK with it. The fact that he and Fleiss appear to be setting Melissa up for a humiliating experience (on National TV no less); just makes me 1) cringe and 2) sick to my stomach!
February 27th, 2009 at 11:08 AM
I have to agree with what some people said about Molly. I never felt any sincereity with her whenever she spoke with Jason. It definately seemed like a game that she needed to win at. I hope Mel lets him and her both have it. But if Molly contacted Jason, doesn’t that mean a breach of contract?
February 27th, 2009 at 11:09 AM
I also am having trouble understanding how Jason could do this to Mel, when he himself was humilated on national television.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:11 AM
Who is on the East Coast watching, “The View”?
Oil Can Harry, formerly known as Jason… What is he saying?
February 27th, 2009 at 11:13 AM
129…I totally agree…..he is SPINELESS! especially after DeAnna humiliated him on National TV now he does it to sweet Melissa?? Guess Molly will be known as the “Sloppy seconds girl”
February 27th, 2009 at 11:14 AM
OMG Owl #80 – I totally lmao at this video, it’s great!
Would have liked to have seen the women after the WTA also get in on the action, getting their chance at Jason.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:24 AM
#130 Big Ed
He hasn’t been on yet. Although they are showing a banner across the bottom saying that he’s coming on. I find this odd for The View. Is he that much of a television draw?
February 27th, 2009 at 11:25 AM
#80 Owl…..THAT was hilarious!! But wait…….Fleiss lookes a little like Reality Steve….what gives wit dat?? LOL
February 27th, 2009 at 11:26 AM
Steve Thank you for letting America know what ABC would not!!!!
My only concern is that they will edit it to make Melissa look like a stark raving mad lunatic…and that Jason was pushed to loving Molly because *sigh* Melissa would not… I don’t konw, just a theory…
February 27th, 2009 at 11:27 AM
Rob Lowe is on right now. The View that is.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:27 AM
It will be interesting to see what Jason says on The View. I emailed their Hot Topics section last week to alert them to the scandal and point them to RealitySteve’s blog. Elizabeth follows the show closely, so I thought they’d be interested. The previews says Jason will give the “real deal” behind the shocking rumors on the Internet, and that he had a change of heart after the final rose.
Uh huh.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:30 AM
135 — I agree I don’t want Melissa to look like a crazy woman! Molly is the really crazy one.
I wish you could watch the View live on the internet.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:30 AM
i wonder if they will pull a jimmie kimmle matt damon, we ran out of time.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:32 AM
Will be interesting how they will dance around the subject!! Running out of time may just work too! LOL
February 27th, 2009 at 11:35 AM
#120-one with my hoola hoop
yes, i thought about that last night, but my eyes were crossed from reading. isn’t it interesting now, when we all starting thinking back to the little “oddities”?
February 27th, 2009 at 11:36 AM
I am on the East Coast and watching the View. He has not appeared as of 11:30 – not sure if he will be on at the end or if they pulled it. Poster 125 saw a preview saying he would be on the View next week to explain his change of heart after handing out the final rose. Perhaps they pulled his taped interview since they knew the ladies of the View were not going to ignore asking the obvious questions that would give away the ending before Monday. Whoopi Goldberg generally does not tolerate a lot of nonsense even if she is on the ABC affiiates. We will see if he shows these last few minutes before the show ends.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:39 AM
So you think they’re going to start softening the blow by having Jason himself out the “change of mind” ending by starting to let the regular viewers in on the fact that something goes wrong after NZ? I would imagine that a large portion of The View’s target audience don’t follow this show on the internet so it would be odd for them to do that.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:40 AM
142 – that just confirms just about everything.
Pinkgirl, are you still sure that Mel and J are together, and Molly is just stirring up crap? I want to believe you, but it keeps getting tougher.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:40 AM
Are you KIDDING me???? THAT is what they showed???
February 27th, 2009 at 11:41 AM
Are they kidding me?!?! He just appeared for 30 seconds in a pre-taped comedy skit with Joy. THAT WAS IT?!?! What a viewer grab. Disgusting.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:42 AM
okay, words won’t do that justice. he was part of spoof with joy so far.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:43 AM
Makes one rethink patronizing the View!!
February 27th, 2009 at 11:43 AM
#121, we will be able to see if Melissa was in on it by her reaction to his news. If she swallows hard, breaks a sweat, eyes get big, pupils dialate, hands wiggle, and we see some sort of discomfort, then we will know she is NOT acting. Seeing is believing that is for sure.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:43 AM
maybe there is more.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:44 AM
The View is an ABC show why would anyone think that they’d fess up?
February 27th, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Just saw the view. Jason did a scene where he kissed one of the view girls and she blessed him out. That was it. He acting was pretty good. I guess he has had a lot of practive.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:45 AM
Well they did kind of out the ending by portraying him as a player who will make out with anyone who talks to him. LOL
February 27th, 2009 at 11:46 AM
THe spoof had Joy Behar profess her undyinglove and when Jason went in for his “Kiss” she pushed him back and washed his mouth with soap saying she didnot know here those lips had been and he needed to register it with Center for Disease Control (or some such organization). Clearly he taped it when he went to do the planned interview. Looks like that is going tobe all……..
February 27th, 2009 at 11:47 AM
Nope – he is on now
February 27th, 2009 at 11:48 AM
on view now…says completly in love and she is on the way to moving to WA
February 27th, 2009 at 11:48 AM
HE SAID HE WOULD STAKE HIS LIFE THAT NOTHING IS SET UP ON THIS SHOW
February 27th, 2009 at 11:49 AM
Jason: I will stake my whole life that there was nothing set up.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:49 AM
SOOO Mel…didnt say much of anything nice about Mol
February 27th, 2009 at 11:51 AM
okay yeah whatever about his life….if he staked on his son, then i would believe.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:53 AM
OMG
He won’t admit to being engaged.
When asked about Melissa his opening sentence was both girls being great.
When asked about Molly he said they are in a young relationship.
He doesn’t read about the rumors but yet he wants people to know the show was scripted from the begining.
He is with Molly. It is obvious!
February 27th, 2009 at 11:54 AM
#161 – Spunk : Do you mean the show wasn’t scripted?
February 27th, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Sorry I meant NOT scripted
February 27th, 2009 at 11:55 AM
Well of course not, he can’t come out on an ABC show, and talk about how another ABC show is scripted, and oh yeah he is under contract by ABC.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:56 AM
JaScum on the View:
says he’s in love and she’s moving to seattle. will NOT say whether or not he’s engaged. he had no trouble saying he was engaged prior to the ATFR1.
he claims it was he who made the choices of what went down.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:56 AM
That was as useless as the WTA.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:57 AM
#166- that’s no suprise
February 27th, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Going back to DVR… He doesn’t deny that he proposed to one, broke up, and went with another. He just denies that the end was planned from the beginning.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Yes it was pretty telling when he was asked point blank if he was engaged his answer was
“I am completely in love and she’s moving to Seattle”.
So they asked him again if he was engaged and he said they’d have to watch the show. He would not answer that question as a yes or no. Pretty big change of tune from the initial interviews where he was shouting “I’m in love and engaged” from the rooftops.
So he pretty much just admitted that all the rumours are true except the part about him being in on a conspiracy to choose Melissa and dump her for Molly. So he’s admitting that he did that but that it wasn’t pre-planned.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:58 AM
165 – yeah it was all over the place that he was engaged and found the woman of his dreams after the show was done.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:58 AM
#166, I didn’t have any great expectations that he would say anything much of anything. He’s obviously be told what to say and how to say it.
Yoduhh JaScum is a really good word for “it”.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:59 AM
This is quick and dirty:
The View
Jason does NOT say he is engaged, but says he is in love. He says emphatically that there is no CONSPIRACY. He says it all really happened — it was his life. They confronted him with the Melissa dumped for Molly rumors which he simply did not address. The ladies also asked about the overnight dates. Joy asked if he had sex on them, and he refused to respond. They also confronted him with his excessive kissing and being intimate with more than one woman. He responded that the physical side of a relationship was important. There is much ribald teasing, especially by Joy. Jason came off as defensive and somewhat sleasy despite playing the Ty card.
February 27th, 2009 at 11:59 AM
All I have to say is GOOD FOR MELISSA!
Finally I have SOMETHING to look forward to. I was not looking forward to seeing her crushed but I am so glad to hear she is going to go OFF on that fool.
I mean poor girl thinks the show is over, she got the ring. But lo and behold the jokes on her the plot is still going. It’s like a SICK version of Punked Bachelor.
Melissa you are a doll and I am soo sorry that you were prey for M. Fliess. You are a CATCH though and you will find someone more deserving of you than that loser Jason.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:00 PM
about him claims it was he who made the choices of what went down. he bets his life on it. so he’s claiming throwing melissa under the bus on national tv was all his own doing. if he gets struck dead by lightening we’ll know for sure he was lying.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:00 PM
Jason is scum in my eyes now. i certainly hope they don’t have plans for a church wedding. that would hardly be fitting.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:00 PM
Re: crying over a balcony: That was the most raw… I mean, I have not cried that hard in my entire life.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:01 PM
Oh what a tangled web we weave; when first we practice to deceive!
Jason’s defensiveness says it all #172. Thanks for the quick and dirty summary.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:02 PM
Oh and I liked when Elisabeth asked him about the rumour that he chose someone and “immediately” had a change of heart. I don’t recall the rumour saying that he immediately had a change of heart. The rumours are that he had a change of heart after sneaking around behind his fiance’s back to see the other one for a couple of months.
And for the record, he fudged over that one too and went right into his diatribe about how he swears on his life that there was no conspiracy or set-up and that everything that happened was based on real life blah blah blah…whatever.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:02 PM
re: pics on JokersUpdates of Molly and Jason supposedly getting hitched — does anyone have the link? i’m buried way deep in Jokers website but cannot, for the life of me, find said pics.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:04 PM
You know if Jason HAD to do this. had to be with Molly, he could have broken up with Melissa after the AFRC in private. then pursued Molly on his own. to me it says the entire plot WAS scripted by TB and Jason had a part in it. if things weren’t going well with Melissa and he was having second thoughts, yes he had the right to call it off, but not humiliate her, or cheat on her as soon as he proposed!!
February 27th, 2009 at 12:05 PM
#179 I looked this morning and couldn’t find them either. Let me know if you come up with something.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:06 PM
#176. Rita_la | February 27th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Re: crying over a balcony: That was the most raw… I mean, I have not cried that hard in my entire life.
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his crying in that scene, where the camera crew just happened by coinkydink be under the balcony shooting up to catch it all on film, reminds me of susam smiths crying for the camera claiming a car jacker took her children.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:07 PM
#179 & 181 – Generally if Jokers has the photos then someone on Fort will get them, Fort for me is easier to navigate, I tried to find something this morning at Jokers and gave up by the 4th page.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:07 PM
I’m surprised they went after him as openly as they did, being CBS show and all; I think he came off pretty lousy myself. I notice when he was asked by Joy if he had sex on the overnights he said, oh I’m not going to answer that, but then turned around and said, well you know that’s an important part of it too. I think with the clips they showed of kissing everyone to shut them up was more sarcasm than I’d have expected them to do with him. He’s such a bottom feeder.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:07 PM
Jason came on for five minutes after the spoof and they made it all a ha ha fest at the kissing bandit. Light and breezy. He siad he;s very happy and his chosen is moving to Seattle. Unfortunately there is not way the View would trash on him just pook fun at the show a bit- a total waste of time. Yes Jason you are not a good actor but its alto too late to redeem choosing one and then as ABC will try to paint it- wanting the other more instead. Again I am not buying anything but what Reality Steve said. Do I believe we will see a watered down ending with creative editing that makes Jason look not so bad and even sympathetic? Yes I do. It remains to be seem who will buy it. They really think the audience is stupid and they can make us believe anything.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:08 PM
I would contribute to any fund that would have Melissa blow the cover on Fleiss & Company!!
February 27th, 2009 at 12:08 PM
I agree with #185; they’re just trying to do damage control I think, but way too late for that.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:08 PM
I watched the View – my opinion as of this second (it changes frequently) is that Jason really couldn’t decide which girl – Jason wanted to cheat on Melissa with Molly and vice versa – Melissa didn’t know about it – Molly did —–
ABC and MF ALLOWED it to happen – but Jason is the one who DID it.
He DID HAVE SEX WITH THOSE 3 WOMEN -
I agree with you 172 – Jason did come across as sleasy and defensive – also dishonest. He is such a fake.
Pink – so are you still saying Mel?
February 27th, 2009 at 12:09 PM
Thanks for the recap guys. I knew that the ladies would ask good questions, but of course he has to use the same tired answers he always gives and dodge the questions.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:10 PM
If you see clips of him when he IS engaged to Melissa…he is beaming,glowing and excited! Now that he dumped her on national tv and is with Molly…..have you noticed he does not appear even HAPPY much less estatic or joyful. When he relaxes he actually looks depressed!
February 27th, 2009 at 12:10 PM
#177
The View appearance would not be so funny if you were not reading all the message bds and blogs. But knowing what we know from RS’s great blog, Jason (and ABC) seemed to be really scrambling to maintain the sweet, divorced dad (with a cute kid) image. For us in the know, he just did not seem sincere, and there wasn’t a straight answer coming out of his mouth. I don’t care what kind of “gentle” spin ABC tries to put on this, Jason and the TB seem sleasy.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:11 PM
I think perhaps Jason accidentally stepped in it a bit by stating he made all the decisions, etc. We know he can’t admit or confirm anything, but this statement may come back to haunt him if we see a public humiliation of Melissa unfold in the name of his “change of heart.”
February 27th, 2009 at 12:11 PM
LOL he is s horndog after all.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:11 PM
#185 “Do I believe we will see a watered down ending with creative editing that makes Jason look not so bad and even sympathetic? Yes I do. It remains to be seem who will buy it. They really think the audience is stupid and they can make us believe anything.”
I completely agree with you Kam- I think now that at least some of the truth has come out- they are working extra hard to make sure those edits look like oh poor Jason, just got caught up in the moment, good thing the F2 were all sooo understanding about it… B.S. is what we will be shown, all tied up in a pretty bow!
February 27th, 2009 at 12:11 PM
hello..first of all…love your blogs!!!!! even though i hate the ending, not that its molly, just the whole thing..lol..i was a jill fan! anyway my question is, you have said in WAY earlier posts..that there was something we were all missing…..did you ever clarify what that was???
also…on the abc boards, someone posed some pics of the finale…ok, so mel is in a yellow dress, and molly is in purple! this blue dress screen shot that has been floating around since day one…..what is that all about?
February 27th, 2009 at 12:13 PM
He picks Mel, they are engaged and she is moving…there will be some drama that goes down with Molly but nothing like what you think.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:14 PM
#195
photoshopped
February 27th, 2009 at 12:15 PM
Oy Pinkgirl! LOL I am so on the fence!
February 27th, 2009 at 12:15 PM
#161 Jason said he and Molly were in a young relationship? What does that mean? Did he admit he’s with here then?
February 27th, 2009 at 12:16 PM
I wonder if all the people who still believe it is Melissa will feel the same way after hearing about the interview on “The View”? It is pretty obvious that there have been some big changes from his interviews in January to his interviews today.
If I were Melissa I’d be seeing a good attorney and seeing if I can break the confidentiality clauses in that contract. Her story is worth a lot and I am sure that there are magazines more than willing to pay for it. I’d like to see her at least be able to walk away from this with some good exposure and a chance to get into media if that is what she wants. I do think she was completely blindsided by Jason.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:16 PM
# 199 I agree, isn’t that just confirming that he is with Mol?
February 27th, 2009 at 12:17 PM
And did you see how he defended the show outright as a viable place to meeting someone to date or marry no different than workplace, set ups, meeting elsewhere, etc and that nothing is ever scripted and he just would not partake in anything like that. Looked like he got some good coaching prior-make yourself look happy and not capable of this conspiracy theory (how own words) and that The Bachelor show is real. Sorry Jason single Dads find their true loves in much more humble places than a hollywood set. Damage control plain and simple.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:17 PM
STEPH
I KNOW……go to the Mel and J side…..
February 27th, 2009 at 12:18 PM
#195 – That yellow dress is in the Us Weekly article too! I remember seeing it and thinking – where the h*ll did that dress come from?
She looks so happy in the pic – I was a Jillian fan the whole time, not really big on Melissa, but that picture almost broke my heart.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:19 PM
I still have yet to read how today Steve is even more believable and things are falling into place like he said? Huh? How so? Because he made another blog saying “his sources” said…
Isn’t that what made many who did doubt in the first place, continue to not hold him to facts when it’s admittedly always been “speculation”?
February 27th, 2009 at 12:19 PM
I really don’t think MF planned this – but were thrilled when they saw what Jason was about to hand them – the most yadayadayada Bachelor show in history. They didn’t care about Melissa – and they really didn’t care about J or Molly because J was giving them such a gift. They took advantage of it.
Jason obviously didn’t think this through – he should have. If he wanted to split with Mel, he had that right, but neededt o do it provately. Then he could have dated Molly to see if it went anywhere – ATFR could have been a simple statement that Mel and J had broken off. Then they could have shown the events that had taken place since. The audience would have been more accepting, and it would have been just another boring bachelor show. Instead, MF saw his opportunity – J was too stupid to see past his “little head” which was obviously over-used over the previous few weeks – so J let little head agree to do what mf wanted.
Bottom line – J and Mol are lowlifes-
Mel can go forward with her head held high. I hope she rips J and Mol new “ones” – and I hope ABC airs an honest show showing what J and Mol have done.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:20 PM
Is Pink Girl a Melissa friend? or is it Melissa? No one knows and will never know.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:21 PM
What I found most interesting in the interview with Jason was Elizabeth talking about the internet rumors of him proposing to Melissa and “immediately” having second thoughts and breaking up with her to go with Molly. His response was something like….Oh, I don’t read those things and I’m not going to respond but there is one rumor I want to set straight. This was not planned, scripted whatever word he used, that this was his life and was actually happened. It did seem to me that he had more to say about Melissa than Molly. I would say Melissa got the better “edit” in this interview. Whoopi kept asking him if he really thought this was love. I felt he came across very defensive.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:22 PM
pinkgirl I hope you are not disappointed and that your information is accurate. I wouldn’t like to think that someone had set Melissa up to be humiliated in public; however, with all the “spin” going on, its hard to see a happy ending for Melissa in all this.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:22 PM
I will tell you I do not knoe Melissa.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:23 PM
know
sorry
February 27th, 2009 at 12:23 PM
Pink – I want you to be right. How can we know for sure? Give us a sign
On the View, I thought Jason said Mol (and Mel) were young – not a young relationship. They also said J was young (I think they meant immature
) I could be wrong, but I didn’t take it to mean J and Mol were in a young relationship.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:24 PM
Why is it so hard for people to believe that ABC would lead the wrong info to draw atten and for ratings but it is so easy to believe what RS said???
DId any of you read the post by CR a few days ago that quickly got deleated???
February 27th, 2009 at 12:24 PM
#205 Sharon, I guess US Weekly carrying the “shocker” in their magazine on the newstands now and another blogger (who Steve conveniently linked for us); probably wouldn’t make you change your mind either *shrug*.
The fact that US Weekly is carrying the “shocker” on its front page is enough for me to believe that something goes down. They are not a “slag rag” like the National Enquirer and generally verify their information carefully before publishing it.
I am still hopeful that Melissa is not humiliated on national TV.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:25 PM
Put yourself in his shoes. He has been constantly asked these questions and now it must be to the point of repetition where it seems he is getting tired of answering the same questions over and over that seem to come off as “come on are you trying to tell me you really think this is love?” and after a while you would naturally get defensive. Or at least I think I would…
I don’t know but I always try to look at it from that person’s POV.
::shrugs::
February 27th, 2009 at 12:27 PM
WHOKNEW
What he said when he was referring to Mol was that they had a fun relationship but he was referring to her being on the show
Did you catch at the beginning he stumbled a little and said she is, she was a friend…talking about Molly?
February 27th, 2009 at 12:28 PM
Sharon, also apparently further upthread, the View carried a banner about Jason’s change of heart and that he would be appearing next week to discuss his change of heart.
Why should I put myself in his shoes, he chose to open himself up to this by going on a National TV show. If he choses to expose himself to the general public then he choses to expose himself to those who question his motives.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:28 PM
Pinkgirl where are you getting your information from? Because it couldn’t be farther from the truth. I know Melissa and her ex, and know they are together…sooo….
February 27th, 2009 at 12:30 PM
Pinkgirl Jason would not confirm now that he is engaged and he was shouting it from the rooftop on many shows earlier in the season. it is not Melissa although I would much prefer that ending- it a’int happening.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:30 PM
Yea, Pink – I heard that. I didn’t know if it was because he couldn’t think fast enough, or was trying to cover his tracks. I heard him say something about Mel – would be a good wife – Mol was a good friend…………………but he stumbled through so much of the interview that I’m not sure I believed anything he was saying. He is so fake.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:31 PM
214-DO you know how many times US Weekly has been wrong about things? Do you really think I hold these magazines to a gospel truth? They are trying to sell magazines and that is their ONLY goal. If we are going to use Ratings and $$$ as the goal of ABC then lets use the same logic with a magazine shall we? RS’s blog is all over the place now or at least his theory and some are running with it because it is getting attention, so with that said it only makes sense people will try and use RS”s “theory” as the lates news so they too can get a piece of the attention. How that makes it the truth is beyond me.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:31 PM
If ABC wanted to keep playing with the rumors, of coarse they are not going to allow him to answer any questions…..they want to play this out as long as they can…..
February 27th, 2009 at 12:31 PM
pics of molly and jason getting married — anyone???
February 27th, 2009 at 12:32 PM
FLYONTHEWALL
I am on the otherside.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:33 PM
pink – as in production?
February 27th, 2009 at 12:33 PM
SHARON
You are right, US is wrong a lot….I get them every week and I read something and within a week it seems to be wrong…
February 27th, 2009 at 12:33 PM
#213 Do you have a copy or know what the post says? I didn’t read it.
And with TV execs I wouldn’t put anything past them for ratings — false story, scripted, not scripted, sudden “change of heart”….they want the ratings.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:34 PM
WHOKNEW….no not that side either…..
February 27th, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Pink – Or do you know Mol?
February 27th, 2009 at 12:34 PM
I hope Jason and Molly got a lot of money for doing this, because they are going to need to buy an island to hide out from all the angry people once this hits the fan….If this is all true and Jason dumps Melissa and tells her all along he has been seeing Molly, he deserves everything he gets, and Molly as well. Two timing is two timing period, and if they both did it willingly I hope they like each other because I don’t know anyone that would give either one of them a chance based on this information. And then comes the day he has to justify his actions to his son, Ty. Boy I’d like to hear how he can come out smelling like a rose with this one.
Also, it has now been revealed that at the WTA he was not ever near any of the women, that it was taped in a separate location. Hmmmm, why else would you do that except if you knew the cat was out of the bag and they didn’t want anyone assaulting Jason at the WTA. I totally think he answers Jillians questions after she asks them in a different room, at a different time, but TPTB edit her reply to him. I don’t think that is what she said to him, like I was kidding, right! He should be embarrassed, ashamed and hope he has money to fall back on, because if he is still in the insurance business and has to deal with women, c’mon now, who would trust him with their money?????
I can’t wait for this mess to be over with!
February 27th, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Pinkgirl # 196
I admit I have no answers and no special insights here. But Jason continually claimed he was engaged at the start of season, and if he proposed to Mel (and didn’t have second thoughts) why is he only saying he is in love now. I don’t care what the exact scenario is, proposed to Melissa, then dumped her for Molly or played around with Molly and then went back to Melissa. If Molly took him after he cheated on Melissa she is a fool, and if Melissa took him back after he messed around with Molly she is a fool. I think he was an ordinary guy that let his TV fame go to head and became a cad. I am looking forward to what kind of a positive spin ABC will put on his behavior.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:34 PM
Change of heart my butt. A 32 year old man can’t decipher his real feelings before proposing to one of them?If so he is very unstable and not assured in his own feelings and what he needs for himself and Ty. That suggests a man who is insecure in his decision making and probably is not ready to get married again. If he was so on love with both or so unsure he should have chose neither and asked to date both off air before making a decision. It’s been done before several times.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:35 PM
I do not know Molly, Melissa or production…..LOL
February 27th, 2009 at 12:35 PM
PINK!!!!! You’re killing me, lol. Ughhhh. I was convinced he throws dirt on Mel but you seem so calm and assured.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:35 PM
217-If you don’t want to put yourself in his shoes by all means, don’t, as a matter of fact don’t ever do it if you don’t want with anyone. I’m just not like that…I treat people the way I’d like to be treated overall for the most part. Your tone demonstrated in your in your posts almost comes off as if you get some kind of joy out of disliking him and thinking the absolute worst about him. That is just my observation.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:35 PM
DIXIEBELLE
When you know the truth you can be calm and assured and sit back and watch all the fun….
February 27th, 2009 at 12:36 PM
pink girl – are you saying you are friend or family to jason or one of the girls?
February 27th, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Pinkgirl…are you sure? I keep hearing things that match up with RS. trust me, Molly is my friend. The last thing I want is for her to end up looking bad in this, but unfortunately it looks like that is what is going to happen.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Don’t forget Pinkgirl, you said that if you were wrong you would come on here and personally apolgize…if I were you I’d seriously reconsider the reliability of your source. Otherwise, I’ll look to be hearing from you Tuesday!
February 27th, 2009 at 12:37 PM
#213…..no Pink, what did the post by CR say??
February 27th, 2009 at 12:37 PM
Pink – you are VERY calm, unlike me! I wish I could be as sure as you – hope we can all come on here and say you were right. But again, I’m not so sure J is worth winning.
Pink – you wouldn’t be someone to do with J would you? Maybe even his ex??? Yea, I know you couldn’t answer anything that specific!
February 27th, 2009 at 12:38 PM
And yes, Pinkgirl I’m calling you out for not knowing what you are talking about, at the very least, or deliberately being misleading, at most.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:38 PM
Kate
Hey…I have talked to you before about Molly and I wish her the best. I am not sure how it will be edited and how it will show her…I have heard that something that happens may not be shown bc it would cast her in a bad light……but I DO NOT know for sure…..SO I really do not know what to tell you on that….I guess we will have to wait an see…..
February 27th, 2009 at 12:39 PM
FLYONTHEWALL
I have no problem coming here and apologizing if I am wrong….If I am wrong, well then I am wrong. Do not really see why it would call for an apology considering people are allowed to make up their own minds but I do not have a problem giving on.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:41 PM
Funny on the View just now, a spoof with Joy and Jason and she won’t let him kiss her and pours hand sanitzer all over his lips and says I dont know where those lips have been, we need to call the center for disease control.
LMAO how true!
February 27th, 2009 at 12:41 PM
Pink – I don’t remember CR either – not Charley, right?
February 27th, 2009 at 12:41 PM
DOFOFO
Let me go and copy it so I can paste it…Thank goodness I happened to save it…..It will take a second…..
Also I AM NOT Js ex.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:42 PM
Pinkgirl…you are right. we’ll just have to wait and see. the suspense is killing me.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:42 PM
241 who knew – hi lady!
pink hasn’t answered my question above about how she fits into tthis either. i forgot the # of my question to her.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:43 PM
SO Pink – you are from J’s side? Not asking for specifics here.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:44 PM
Jason’s demeanor on The View came across, to me at least, as someone very comfortable and confident with his decision and with the end result of how everything plays out. He didn’t appear to look or act like someone who has been taken to the proverbial wood shed by anyone. (Mel)
This leaves me with the feeling that abc has protected their star (reason he is so confident) and we will see a snow job, in his favor, when all is said and done. The audience will be swayed in his favor. They will do a good job in convincing their tv audience that Jason simply had a change of heart.
He can deny all he wants that this wasn’t a set up, but how can he and abc deny, or spin it, that he had no contact with Molly before he dumped Mel?
And for the life of me I can’t understand how Molly would be willing to take this guy back after he clearly doesn’t pick her as F1.Then again, women are far more forgiving, when it comes to matters of the heart, than men. Does the name Elliot Spritzer mean anything to anybody?!
February 27th, 2009 at 12:44 PM
The reason I still have this, In case any of you are wondering, is because I actually copied it here and pasted it to another site….then it disappeared and everyone was looking for it…so here it is and it was by CR…he/she posted 2x…this and once to, and I may be wrong about this name but I believe it was nothingbettertodo or something like that I dont have his response
ABC is pulling wool over the eyes of the veiwers. This whole season is a mess, but you all love it. The shocker is going to be Jason & Mel are engaged and none of the above theories even came into play. He fell for Mel hook, line & sinker. In order to bump up the ratings they decided to play a little switch a roo up on all the FORTERS, and BLOGGERS since everyone was on to the F1(freckle, mole,theory) Thus ABC sends out there “leaks†that RS got his inside info to try to throw everyone all off. It is a win, win secenario for everyone. We cant blame RS he did get this inside info but it was all panned out from the get go. The veiwers get a true love story and recieves a lesson on don’t believe everything you read/hear, and Jas found the girl of his dreams. I know that it may seem crazy and it all really is crazy. Everyone from the show is now in on it. Now you can understand the postings from some of the ousted girls like megan saying ilymr on myspace. It is all a big game and the veiwers & RS have all been FLIESSED. Mark my word. This is the real story.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:45 PM
WHOKNEW
February 27th, 2009 at 12:45 PM
Could pink be J’s mother?
February 27th, 2009 at 12:45 PM
Hi folks, first time poster here. Funny, I’ve been reading along with all Steve’s blogs and most of the comments throughout this Bachelor season but yet I chose until now when we have to register to post a comment! Firstly I’ve got to say, Steve, you’ve done a great job this season, very detailed and funny recaps of all we’ve seen this season on TB. Your personality really shines through. As for those crazy people posting offensive comments, that’s unfortunately what happens when you put yourself out there as you have. But it’s still worth it b/c there are many of us out here who love the work you’ve done and support your efforts.
That being said, my thoughts on this season of TB:
I will admit, I was one of those many women out there who felt for Jason during DeAnna’s season. I was crushed when she picked Jesse over him. Mind you, it was pretty obvious that her and Jesse wouldn’t last too long. I was soooo excited to see Jason as TB, couldn’t wait for it to start. But right from the get-go, it was pretty clear that this was not the same person we saw on the Bach’ette. I really felt that Jillian was the best person for him and just seemed to be the most natural, genuine girl on the show. That’s what we Canadians are like, eh? However, after watching the past few episodes and reading Steve’s blogs, I’m glad she dodged that bullet and I feel badly for both final girls left b/c it’s fairly obvious that there won’t be any sort of real happy ending for either couple. But, as it’s been said, that’s not really ABC’s intention. They don’t care what we feel, what we want to see, or especially about the people on their show. They’re all about ratings and advertising dollars – that’s it.
Steve, you rock! Keep up the good work and thanks for entertaining us
February 27th, 2009 at 12:46 PM
alltimebachfan
Not sure of the question, do you mind reasking me?
February 27th, 2009 at 12:46 PM
Pink are you on J’s side?
February 27th, 2009 at 12:48 PM
KATE
I know it is enough to drive you crazy and consume your days and nights…and then we will all go in withdrawl and really wont know what to do with our time….I for one will start cleaning my house again..LOL
February 27th, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Pinkgirl. I so hope you are right–that Jason is NOT the scumbag we think he is & that he is really in love with Melissa. The problem with that theory is why did MF say it was freakish & just when you think it is over (FRC) ii isn’t? If you could answer that I would be most grateful!! Thanks.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:48 PM
Thank you Pink – and now I’m going to sit back and relax. I think I may sort of kind of somehow might have a little tiny like…..idea….of who you could possibly, might sort of be!!! You give me hope, girl!
February 27th, 2009 at 12:49 PM
US weekly is not the only mainstream publication that has picked up on this. Access Hollywood and several other magazines did too. Where they all paid by ABC to tell lies? They have their own sources who back up RS’s original info. Sharon I am really very sorry for you as you are being duped to think this is all bogus and Jason is a wonderful example of a man. You are in the minority. As much as I would like to believe there was a happy ending with no flip flops the last show editing of the pinky ring and acrylic nails suddenly appearing on Molly confirms that ABC is carambling diabolical and their paid for Bachelor Jason is not goingot come out looking good to the average viewer with a reasonable amount of intelligence who has been piecing this together for themselves after the leak.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:50 PM
SHEILA
I will be honest with you, I DO NOT know all the details of what happens on the ATFR 1….I know it seems crazy but I really do not know how to answer that for you….wish I did but I DO KNOW that something DOES happen there……but nothing like what we are lead to believe.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:51 PM
#252 very interesting.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:52 PM
#257 pink, my question was #237 (i had to find it!), you did say you didn’t know molly or melissa but you may know their family or friends. or have jason connections.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:52 PM
OMGosh Pink. Tell me, how can you stay so calm and relaxed when J is being crucified? It’s got to be upsetting.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:52 PM
It is kind of like an intersection, you can go any way you want and each path will lead you somewhere….one may lead you to a cliff….one may be a dirt road…..one may be just a normal road and the other may be a castle…..Just depends on which way you want to go
February 27th, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Pink – how could you possible be sure that this is the right info? I had a post about Stephanie being the final one and it got pulled twice. Is there a way you can confirm what you know, or are you just going off this post?
February 27th, 2009 at 12:53 PM
Pinkgirl if you are right what is the hyperventilating edge of your seat ending that is Network-esque per that treasure of a man Fleiss? Network-esque means someone losing it and screaming- that does not sound like a Melissa all is well ending.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:54 PM
All I will say is I do not know Molly, Melissa, production…so what does that leave…:)
February 27th, 2009 at 12:54 PM
pink – ok this is a rather humorous longshot – are you Fleiss’s wife?? LOL.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:55 PM
#268 ever think Molly is loosing it? She could be just as mad if Mel is picked and she is freaking out on Jason.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:55 PM
DIXIEBELLE
You have to make a decision, is it worth getting on here fighting with everyone that says awful things or just sit back and let the cards play. I will do the 2nd one. Everyone has a right to their opions.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:55 PM
The theory expressed in # 252 does not make much sense when you consider Jason origianlly at the start of the season said he was engaged, and now he is only in love. If Fleiss wanted to really trick us, I think he would had Jason slient at the beginning.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:56 PM
Did anyone notice that Joy on the View basically confirmed RS’s story by saying that Melissa is now “available” and at the end of the interview Jason looked at Joy and covered his mouth…like she should have kept her mouth shut?
Of course Jason’s going to go to his grave claiming that this was all real.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:56 PM
#270 pink, well if i didn’t know better i’d say by your screen name that you are Trista, with her fascination for pink. she may have a few leftover friends at ABC that would pry for her.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:56 PM
I sincerely doubt ABC is going to “allow” any backlash stemming from making Melissa appear to be the victim of this horrible treatment.
I agree with the posters who say she will appear on the ATFR2 show all perky and cute and forgiving Jason for what happened.
What I am wondering, however, is the price ABC had to pay her to go along with their ruse to keep their prince charming smelling like a rose. I don’t think she is above being bought off for the right price.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:56 PM
Well, I will say this…..you have an EXTREMELY calming affect. Thanks for that sweetie!
February 27th, 2009 at 12:56 PM
cynstriss
I am not saying what CR posted is right…the only thing I am saying is for what I know, that makes sense. JMO
February 27th, 2009 at 12:57 PM
261-No need to feel sorry for me for having an opinion, and I am playing devil’s advocate more than anything, which is giving the “other side” the benefit of the doubt. Why you would feel sorry for me for being that kind of a person is beyond me, not to mention in the end it’s just a show and doesn’t affect my life at all. I’m confused by how serious you are taking this to the point where you feel you would need to pity me in some way for simply arguing a different point of view on a blog about a show.
As for Access Hollywood and “other magazines” saying somewhat of the same thing as RS…Yeah I know and my point above still remains…why wouldn’t it?
February 27th, 2009 at 12:58 PM
Maybe he did dump Melissa for Molly & then realized he really loved Melissa & then dumped Molly (would that be freakish enough for MF?) That sure would be strange & that’s never happened before.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:58 PM
I’m out of here until later – I’m depending on you pink! You guys all have a good (and speculative) afternoon. I’ll be back on to see if anyone has news from the ATFR2 later this afternoon. I think it was supposed to last until 4:00 or so – don’t know what that makes on the Eastern side of the country – maybe 7:00?
February 27th, 2009 at 12:58 PM
#280 as if the story couldn’t get any stranger or more twisted. It would be slightly annoying but humerous.
February 27th, 2009 at 12:59 PM
LOL
NOT TRISTA OR MF WIFE…NO nonononono
And there is something that will happen at the AFTR that I guess will be jaw dropping, freakish, whatever, but I guess it depends on what these words mean to people…..and keep in mind the bloggers are only 1 percent of the viewing…….that leaves a lot of people who dont know all about these rumors…..
February 27th, 2009 at 1:01 PM
Irony all around. Was one of your original readers, waaay before this blog. In fact am responsible for you meeting one of your aforementioned “dates” through your writeups. But life got busy and I stopped watching TV, hence forgot about the show and therefore your blog. It was bumping into that “date” that reminded me of your blog and hence the show and started watching / reading again. Still enjoy it as much as I did before – both show and TV and know not to take any of it too seriously. Just my little escape from reality….
And then you send me a link to my best friend’s cousin’s EW writeup, Laura. Too funny. You are right with your assessment on her as she’s great. And you probably already know this, dated on of your favorite bachelor friends.
Very small world.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:01 PM
Can anyone else confirm this from remmie:
“Did anyone notice that Joy on the View basically confirmed RS’s story by saying that Melissa is now “available†and at the end of the interview Jason looked at Joy and covered his mouth…like she should have kept her mouth shut?”
Did that happen just like that? It seems that would be a sign…
February 27th, 2009 at 1:02 PM
So Pinkgirl you said you are not friends with Melissa Molly or the production staff? That leaves Jason or Chris Harrison…
February 27th, 2009 at 1:02 PM
All I can say is that if it turns out that the leaked information was bogus to throw us all off, I will be PISSED, regardless of the outcome. All of us that followed this show and read these blogs felt we had inside juicy info that the average viewer didn’t have. I for one took this info and told everyone that I KNEW how this show was going to end and told anyone who wanted to know.
If I end up looking like a gullible fool because ABC fed bogus info to throw us all off, I will be very unhappy.
But I’ll get over it. It’s been fun anyway.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:04 PM
Something else to consider….If this really happens to Melissa then why is she going on shows after? Is she really didnt want anything to do with the AFTR 2 as has been said, then why would she be willing to going on TV shows like Ellen.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:05 PM
I don’t agree that very few know about the these rumors- not with major pubs picking it up and good old human nature to gossip and share what has been said and therefore pass it along even more.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:05 PM
Mesnick – Stake his life on it?
When you stick your neck out, you could mess up some verterbrae…
February 27th, 2009 at 1:05 PM
I know it at least happened on the East Coast show. Here’s how it exactly went down. They asked Jason to talk about the two final girls and when Jason was describing Melissa, he said something like: “She’s beautiful, funny, caring, a great mother…” at which point Joy added the word “available.” There was laughter before and after she said it, so I had to rewind the Tivo to make sure I heard what she said correctly.
Then, at the very end of the interview after they had wrapped up and were ready to go to commercial, Jason looked at Joy with his hand over his mouth. I still have it on Tivo.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:08 PM
pinkgirl isn’t the F1 under contract to make appearances? Plus maybe Fleiss offered her the Bachelorette. I don’t know. I sure hope that she is not humiliated on national TV, that’s all I’m going to say.
I believe that Steve is sure of his source. If he’s been duped, well then he’s not the only one, many, many other people also have this same information. Just look at some of the message boards.
The only message board that appears not to have this info is MisFits.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:09 PM
Melissa ia great mother? Huh?
February 27th, 2009 at 1:09 PM
Why would Jason say Melissa is “a great mother”?
February 27th, 2009 at 1:10 PM
I saw tht people over at the Fort received invitations to ATFR2 taping today; they will all get to see the FRC and the ATFR1; needless to say they will be required to sign away their first born to attend, but some info will surely leak out.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:10 PM
292-Those message boards have the info. now. They didn’t have it before RS came out and said what he knew.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:11 PM
I thought about that Pink, but figured maybe it could be b/c she wanted to show that she was the stronger person. I just can not see him picking Molly over Melissa, but stranger things have happened I guess.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:11 PM
#294 perhaps to downplay that he is a heartless SOB per the leaks and speculation. Also maybe he did see in her time with Ty that she is good with children. He’s just trying to save face.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:12 PM
notsorealityfan
I do not believe that are required to do appearances for the after if you are F2. And I for one know if the RS theroy happened I would not do any appearences….I would want to be so far away from the whole thing and that would include being the next B’ette. Which btw, I heard throught the grapevine is being taped now for showing this summer. Has anyone heard this?
February 27th, 2009 at 1:13 PM
#296, I beg to differ Bloomers over at Fort had the information around the same time as RS did. However, I won’t argue that point with you as its just not worth getting someone’s knickers in a twist about.
Monday/Tuesday can’t get here soon enough for me, so I can get my life back! I’m fascinated by the differences and love to people watch, human nature is fascinating.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:14 PM
Pinkgirl could be CH wife……
February 27th, 2009 at 1:16 PM
#299 I’d heard over at Fort that taping was scheduled to begin later next month; but then someone else posted that they’d heard taping had been pushed back as they wanted to get more guys, so I don’t know what to believe.
Fort have been very good at sleuthing in the past and have pretty much predicted F1 until last season when they thought it was Jason.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:16 PM
298-Yikes, so harsh without actually having proof yet.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:16 PM
I read somewhere it’s supposed to start sometime in March. And….if J was such the dog he is being made out to be, one would think it would show on his face, but then again I don’t know him.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:17 PM
i checked out Fort and i found what we have here alot more interesting.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:18 PM
LOL
I am not anyones wife that any of you know or have heard of. I promise you that….hehe.
Something else to consider, Jason is NOT a good actor at all…Even if someone said you have to do this and that….he is the kind of person that it shows all over his face….you can tell it in interviews.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:22 PM
From the friends & family that I have talked to they think it is DeAnna, but I don’t think that would be freakish.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:23 PM
I’m sorry, but I don’t believe pinkgirl actually knows anyone. Any of us can get on here and get everyone’s hopes up at Melissa. I don’t think that’s particularly fair. But, as RS says, you can believe who you chose to believe…
February 27th, 2009 at 1:24 PM
I saw an observation that Mesnick really looked like he tensed up when questioned by Elizabeth Hasselbeck. Anyone see that?
February 27th, 2009 at 1:24 PM
test
February 27th, 2009 at 1:25 PM
Sharon I do not need proof to feel in my gut what is right and what is wrong. Jason did not behave like a centered mature single parent with an earnest desire to find a new mate. The fact that he has a child and chose to partake in all the numerous make out sessions and sex implications- tent night for a starter and hottub Jillian another. A man in search of a real potential mate who’s own child is actually brought into the show would behave like a gentleman throughout and care more about the girls true qualities and not just if they are good kissers or have amazing eyes – yes we hold him to a higher standard than the other usual playboy type bachelors in season’s past.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:25 PM
pinkgirl, we’ve all heard that Jason’s not a good actor; he’s said it many times; I have to admit he did look decidedly uncomfortable when some of the ladies went in for the kill as it were; however, there’s always the “sheep who cried wolf” factor, and his “lack of acting ability” could just be for show.
I tend to treat anything from the Bachelor/Bachelorette with a dose of healthy skepticism, after seeing Jason front and center last season.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:26 PM
#308
I’m with you. Isn’t that what Charley (the dog) did just to prove a point.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:28 PM
If Jason isn’t a good actor, then he LOVES Melissa!!
February 27th, 2009 at 1:29 PM
Remmie
I understand and you are free to have your opinion. As much as you say I am getting everyones hopes up for Mel, RS is bring them down. It goes both ways.
notsorealityfan
LOL J had been forwarned about the ladies on The View….He was nervous but he did good.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:31 PM
288 pinkgirl…contracts. They sign contracts which, do doubt, includes ‘must-do’ appearances.They sign on to do this show and have obligations.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:31 PM
pinkgirl, actually I wasn’t referring to the ladies from the View, I was referring to Nikki and Shannon during the regular season.
Funny how different people read different things into a sentence isn’t it?
February 27th, 2009 at 1:32 PM
311-I guess I live in a different world.The fact that you say he allowed his son to “partake” in all the numerous make out sessions (you clearly have a different definition of make-out) and sex implications (over-night dates???) really makes me think you are taking this waaaaaaaay too seriously. Your exaggerating to the tenth degree here it’s crazy. My sister is a single mother does that mean if she drinks wine with a guy in a spa she is somehow any less of a good mother? Your logic is foreign to me in all regards.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:33 PM
locked up….
February 27th, 2009 at 1:35 PM
One more thing…I took a lot more away from Jason on this show than him kissing girls (which is normal) and speculated overnight dates…I saw waaaaaaay more than that in regards to just about how he was in every other regard.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:35 PM
VENUS…
I am really not into the whole contract thing….I realize they have to do them but I am not sure about the after…..I know that J and his F1 have to do appearences but am not sure about the F2.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:36 PM
Pinkgirl, are you getting your information from the MisFits board? Someone over there is pretending to be Jason’s mom and she claims Jason and Mel are getting married.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:37 PM
Kam
Don’t bother arguing with Sharon. She seems to feel the need to have the last word.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:37 PM
Pinkgirl…it doesn’t really go both ways when only one of you has actual knowledge of what happened…and that’s RS. Again, people can believe what they want. I just urge the rest of the posters to take what you say with a healthy dose of skepticism.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:38 PM
notsorealityfan
AH…Understand now…trying to do to many things at one time and The View is on my mind…..and you are right…is interesting how we read things……
February 27th, 2009 at 1:39 PM
BTW, sources at Fort say that Melissa is at work today, the ATFR2 is being taped today…..
Enough said.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:39 PM
Sharon I guess we were watching a different show. I didn’t say his son partook in the make out sessions and sex implications I said a single father who appears on national TV for millions to watch will be judged accordingly if his behavior does not match the discretion and maturity a single parent should have with cameras rolling. If your sister has a drink in a hotub with a man it will never get back to her child and is not on film for all of eternity- you are comparing apples or oranges.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:39 PM
#318 Sharon, I also think that Jason did get caught up in all this attention and beautiful women. Maybe he thought he had to romance them with kisses, how do any of us know what was going through his mind while on film. Having a camera anywhere nearby makes anyone act “out of the norm”. My GOD people Jason could just be a victim of his own “subconcious” actions and he is just now learning by watching it back what a jerk he looked like. I think in every episode he was very uncomfortable and out of his norm. At each Rose Ceremony he acted scared as hell. The man just fell into his trap I think. And the word on this street is that Jason does dump Melissa at ATFR#1, but then on ATFR#2 he dumps Molly and wants Melissa back and she accepts. OMG I cannot wait to see the outcome…..! Any thoughts?
February 27th, 2009 at 1:40 PM
Okay Pink, they are saying that Melissa is at work today, when they are supposed to be filming ATFR. Where’s J?
February 27th, 2009 at 1:42 PM
LEMON
No I am not but I have heard that someone over there is posting and that they believe it is his mom…..her name is something about a son being the best or something…..???
REMMIE
Again I understand where you are coming from but I disagree that only one person has the actual knowledge of what happens.
I believe that when this is all said and done you will see that RS has a portion of it correct but not in the way he said it….and in the end Mel and J will be together after they jump some hurdles.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Thanks #323 I will ignore her as no one’s mind is going to be changed by a discussion board. Everyone sees things differently and as long as it doesn’t get out of hand healthy debate is ok.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:43 PM
What is the link to this so called MisFits site?
February 27th, 2009 at 1:44 PM
323…you just set yourself up
February 27th, 2009 at 1:44 PM
I’ve only glanced through your predictions, and I don’t know if you already pointed this out, but when Jason did his blog for People mag his comments were pretty telling
” The hot tub date with Jillian got pretty hot, and the passion was exactly what I needed to feel for her…..Molly asking me to spend the night really showed me that she was there for me and was completely opening herself up to me…..I hoped Melissa and I could concentrate on us and not her difficult hometown date…It was tough sending Jill home. She had become my ultimate friend on this journey” Translated as- ” Thanks for helping me relieve some tension, Jillian, everyone was right- Melissa and I are not together and it may possibly have something to do with her parents and their disapproval, Molly thanks for waiting in the wings for me and being my shoulder to cry on while I was still with Melissa and dealing with the parental situation.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:44 PM
roroannie -Was that even necessary? It takes two people to have a discussion no? I am not talking to myself and each time I respond someone responds right back, yet I am the one who needs the last word?
Give me a break, your comment is exactly what causes drama on a board.
KAM-Are you saying that because he was the single dad Bachelor that he should never have kissed anyone or offered the over-night dates as in all the other shows? I saw him as being exceptionally respectful of the women’s feelings in every way and I don’t see how Ty would be affected by him sharing passionate kisses in a spa with Jillian…that doesn’t change how Ty lives his life nor does it change the kind of father Jason is to Ty.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:44 PM
I love this! Can’t wait to see all the people eat crow once this all airs.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:45 PM
DIXIEBELL
I have no knowledge of where Mel is or not.
J has been out of town the last few days….
February 27th, 2009 at 1:46 PM
see what I mean
February 27th, 2009 at 1:46 PM
Regarding Jason’s Mom posting at the JU site – per FORT he/she is an imposter based upon timing and other stuff that I can’t remember.
I believe J is w/Molly but if it ends up being differnt, fine. It is fun speculating and posting.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:47 PM
Maybe he is helping his woman pack. And of course he is in NYC taping The View.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:47 PM
The View was actually taped yesterday and not today.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:48 PM
Pink: Of course J has been out of town the last few days…he was on the VIEW today…and is taping the ATFR 2 tonight. It doesn’t take anyone with inside knowledge to figure that out…
February 27th, 2009 at 1:48 PM
He could have still been out of town doing that.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:49 PM
I thought we were having a healthy debate. I am curious as to why I am being portrayed as someone other than having a difference of opinion or shedding light on a different perspective of things?
What have I said that would warrent ignoring me? WOW
February 27th, 2009 at 1:50 PM
warrant*
February 27th, 2009 at 1:52 PM
People, think about it. If you were Melissa and Jason dumped you on national tv with no warning…and admitted to you that he had been seeing Molly during your brief engagement…would you actually take him back? No way. Even poor Melissa with what seems to be a fairly low self esteem/image must have enough respect for herself to tell him where he could go.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:53 PM
You are all forgetting that we have been told Melissa is appearing at the ATFR2, now that’s being filmed today in LA, she’s in Dallas at work.
The only scenario I can come up with is that they filmed her separately and will edit her part in.
Apparently (also according to sources at Fort) Molly is NOT at work today.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:53 PM
What if we are all wrong? LOL
February 27th, 2009 at 1:53 PM
REMMIE
I agree with what you said in 346……so maybe that is not exactly how it all happens….maybe there is something else that happens that may be bad but not actually her being dumped….????
February 27th, 2009 at 1:54 PM
I literally need a life, I have been so addicted to this site. I tried to get on FORT and be very involved but they post so quickly and I cannot keep up with both sites so I chose this one as it is more interesting to me. Again can someone send the link to this MisFits site.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:54 PM
#308 and 313, i’m think i’m with you about pink
February 27th, 2009 at 1:54 PM
I have a friend at the taping in L.A. she said they just finished signing their N.D.A. (non disclosure agreements) and are walking into the studio now for the taping. She also said they will be shown the last episode, the first ATR, so they are in the loop when they record this. She said cell phones are NOT ALLOWED during the taping and anyone caught using a cell phone, camera, etc will be escorted off the set immediately. I am sure RS has moles in there as well, but I thought I would share with you all.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:57 PM
Sharon this is my last comment to you regarding Jason. Yes I believe he should have waited until the final two or maybe three before he started making out. He made out with so many I can’t even count them all. As for the Jillian”passionate kissing with Jason” did you not see the wrapping legs around Jason, hints at grinding and butt squeezing? LOL Then in episide two or three we hear moans from the tent and again sex implications with Molly returning with his clothes on and her walk of shame line. A single father who is sincere about looking for love appearing before cameras for all to see would be a gentleman and physical attraction and make out sessions would not be 1st on his list- JMO.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:57 PM
#232 Kam exactly!
The man is an adult. If he was unsure…do the right thing and don’t propose to either girl.
No true man proposes…claims he was confused and starts seeing someone else on the side.
Then..has the nerve to humiliate the fiance on tv no less….by breaking up publicly.
As another poster wrote tar & feather him!
I’m not sure thats harsh enough!
February 27th, 2009 at 1:57 PM
PINK you’re off your rocker and I think you are just bored and looking for people to post with.
And if by some freakish way you REALLY were fed info how are you to assume that RS got bad leaked info but you got good leaked info… it’s not a safe assumption that you were “told” the real story either.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:58 PM
Is the misfit’s the same as JU?
February 27th, 2009 at 1:58 PM
Jason logged into his My Space today. however i do not see any updates.
February 27th, 2009 at 1:58 PM
BruceLee,
I have one but sheesh, this is driving me nutz. He said/she said scenario, ughhhh.
Molly not being at work could be two different things though, so….
February 27th, 2009 at 1:59 PM
I don’t know if anyone has said this yet…but I am just now watching the View only the guide said it has Jason on it…I don’t usually watch it…so I am not sure who anyone is except Woopi….the young blond from an old Survivor….was on there as a host…and she talked about how much she loved the show…so she asked Jason…â€are you currently engaged?†….he said “I am in love and very happy†so she said again…â€that is not the question…are you engaged?†and he said†you’ll have to watch the showâ€â€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦.thoughts on that one? I found it shocking…and kinda tell tale…since he said in Dec and Jan he was engaged.??????
February 27th, 2009 at 2:00 PM
353-Ok I respect your opinion. I just enjoy when my opinion is challeneged and I challenge others. I thought that is what this was all about. Sorry if I offended you in any way.
**I never saw him squeeze her butt
February 27th, 2009 at 2:01 PM
#359 – That right makes me believe he’s w/Molly and not engaged to her right now. He used to tell anyone who would listen he was engaged.
I wish Elisabeth would of followed up with “Ok but you said on Dc 3 you were happily engaged”.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:02 PM
Trophywife
I have no idea who leaked or told RS his info at all…..I still believe and will believe that he trusted the person or persons that told him and he was not any way shape or form trying to lie to the people on his board……I believe he was trying to let people know what he found out and you could decide to believe it or not…..
February 27th, 2009 at 2:02 PM
ok..so what have we all mised that RS had said in previous blogs? other than the final rose game, i cant think of anything
February 27th, 2009 at 2:02 PM
All I know is that Jason DESERVES and EARNED every ounce of bile, vinegar and shit that Melissa spews at him. I would be pissed to the nines, too, if I were dumped on national TV. I think Steve is right that Jason was callous enough to TELL Melissa about Molly as part of the public dumping he subjected her to. What a douche.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:06 PM
328-So sorry I didn’t even see your post until now. I agree with you as in no one truly understands what he was thinking or the position he was in during this whole thing. I think some of it was just natural behavior, and some he acted accroding to being out of his element. I think if that spa scene didn’t happen he would not be portrayed as some horndog but in my honest opinion it was JIllian who came off like that not Jason. I am wondering about that scenario myself in him breaking it off with Mel or vice versa and then getting with Molly only to return to Mel. I think we are all in for a suprise and it’s not RS’s theory.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:08 PM
is tma2007 still around?
if so, did you find those pix?
February 27th, 2009 at 2:09 PM
#356 no MisFits is not the same as JU. MisFits is a private board run by someone who used to post on Fort. Her handle on Fort was Lynn7.
She originally set up a private board called BLF – Body, Lip and Facial Communications on Runboard; sometime in the not too distant past they discontinued that board and opened up MisFits. I don’t have a link and I think you have to be approved before you can see any of the site.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:11 PM
MisFits??????? LINK please?
February 27th, 2009 at 2:11 PM
Thanks a ton for the answer, notsorealityfan
February 27th, 2009 at 2:12 PM
#348 Sharon LOL I would love if we are all wrong and have been fleissed and something completely different has happened than anyone has suggested or leaked. I read in one post somewhere that maybe the Network-esque ending was us the viewers screaming out the windows in outrage just to have the rug pulled out from under us Monday and the ending is something that no one has predicted. I guess we will know soon enough.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:15 PM
Okay, why are so many people on Fort upset with you and what you have reported?
One poster insists that you’re slandering Jason and Molly (as well as Melissa.) Does anyone care about how some of the “contestants” have been slandered by things taken out of context on the show to give them an “edit?”
And, if your predictions are all true, what about the pain experienced by Melissa. (And even Ty when he grows up and figures out what a jerk his dad is.)
It’s either all true or you’ve been “had” and we’ll find out soon enough., but reporting what you’ve heard is within your blogging rights!
February 27th, 2009 at 2:15 PM
BruceLee, I’m sorry I don’t have a link, nor do I want one. I was offered the opportunity of joining the BLF site that they already set up but because they’d been wrong two seasons in a row I chose to ignore the invitation.
There may be a link on Jokers Updates to the site, I’m not sure, and would have no idea how to find it.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:16 PM
i just read on FORT that Molly is NOT in LA today for the taping.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:18 PM
Really Bruce Lee? Now I am more confused than ever (and I didn’t think that was possible).
Can’t wait ’til the leaks start!
February 27th, 2009 at 2:18 PM
ok now they say she took a flight this morning.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:18 PM
Still reading for confirmations.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:19 PM
Thanks for all the updates and info Steve…we would all have been in the dark if not for you!
February 27th, 2009 at 2:19 PM
Just popped in for a second – as for the fighting, I find it’s better just to ignore anyone picking a fight. It’s a no-win situation.
Pink – does it bother you to hear the negative comments about J? Also, who was your favorite b’ette for him?
February 27th, 2009 at 2:19 PM
Cupcakes who has a source at Molly’s work says she’s sure that Molly is not at work today, its in the ATFR2 thread. What thread did you see that Molly is NOT in LA today?
February 27th, 2009 at 2:19 PM
January 18: Taping of the EMERGENCY ATFR Part I, Jason dumps Melissa.
January 22: Jason Seattle – Bellevue fundraising event
January 27: Steve releases bombshell announcement
January 30: Jason having business lunch Hotel Monaco in Seattle – SOURCE:
February 12: Fleiss added the additional AFTR show.
February 13: Shannon indicated the WTA taped – SOURCE: Shannon’s MySpace Jason in LA for taping
February 17: Steve reveal
February 27: AFTR part 2 being taped, SOURCE: Molly in attendance
February 27: Jason on The View interview – taped February 25th or 26th in New York
March 2: Jason on Jimmy Kimmel interview – after FRC and AFTR aired
March 5: F2 on Ellen
March 6: Jason and F1 on Ellen
February 27th, 2009 at 2:24 PM
question….they are having an audience for todays taping of AFRC2 right? so, how do they do this and expect no leaks to get out as to what took place? this may be a stupid question, or maybe it’s been answered already…just curious?
February 27th, 2009 at 2:24 PM
370- I would love that because then we would all be blindsided, oh wait, perhaps we are the ones who are to be blindsided, not Melissa. hahaha
February 27th, 2009 at 2:25 PM
Fort – Post FRC Comings and Goings
Posted by Cupcakes
Quote:
Originally Posted by chaserla
I can only answer The View question. The View tapes the Friday show on either Wednesday or Thursday so they have a 4 day work week.
I think we have 2 FORT members going to the taping tomorrow, it starts taping at 11:30am PST, so we need to find out if Molly is at work tomorrow.
She will not be at work tomorrow. She is taking a flight.
__________________
February 27th, 2009 at 2:25 PM
381-Non-Disclosure Agreements
February 27th, 2009 at 2:26 PM
whoknew
I feel for all 3 of them…..there have been many mean and untrue things said about each and everyone of them, even CH has gotten questioned about him being a parent.
My fav. was Mel. They just seemed to connect on a lot of levels but I really like Jill as well. She is a very sweet and pure girl.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:28 PM
Omg, I cant wait till the leaks start coming out about the ATFR 2. I cant stand it, lol. I guess it could be just more people lying, but I want to hear it anyway!
February 27th, 2009 at 2:28 PM
sharon-thanks! however, by the looks of what is being discussed on FORT…seems like something could/would be revealed too soon!
February 27th, 2009 at 2:28 PM
Sharon, I too would love it if we’ve all been Fleiss’d. It was Mike Fleiss who mentioned the reference to Network in an interview. He said it was Chayesfskyesque in its ending.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:28 PM
In case no one has posted the link to Jason on The View. Here it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULbVSDyx1H4
February 27th, 2009 at 2:28 PM
379. notsorealityfan — cupcakes is also the one who said Molly has been crying at work because she is so upset that all this got out. Sound like she’s got some inside info.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:29 PM
amy – ABC knows there will be leaks, no question. So possibly it’s a fake ATRC to throw us or they want it to get out to prepare us. I do know that it is estimated that only 1% of TB viewers go to spoiler mssg boards.
Maybe they simply don’t care if we know so long as the vast majority is surprised.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:30 PM
I liked Jill best – but think she was very independent. She would probably be a threat to a lot of men – established in her career, etc. But I adored her and her family.
Melissa seems to act much younger than Melissa – not in a bad way – she’s just more outgoing and trusting – childlike in her views of the world and people running through her world. Which would make her a great friend (mentor) to a child.
Molly just never hit me as someone who could accept children – seemed cold and snobbish, like she thought she was better than everyone else.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:32 PM
346 Remmie..Women take back men after they have ‘done them wrong’ all the time. Are you familiar with the real live saga about the now ex governor of NY, Elliot Spritzer? He was caught using a prostitution service…excuse me..an ‘escort service’ and his wife not only publicly stood by him at his natitionally televised mea culpa, from all appearances they are still together. I have never been able to wrap my head around the fact that she agreed to stand by her man after something so publicly embarrassing and humiliating and not to forget, a violation of their marriage vows. So, it isn’t far reaching to imagine either of these two gals forgiving of Jason’s cheating on one with the other or to take him back. As much as I find it all distasteful.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:33 PM
what is the FORT link, in general? Thx
February 27th, 2009 at 2:33 PM
smp-gotchya! this whole thing just truly entertains me. as much as i DO believe RS, i wonder if Fleiss is truly that creative to pull off such a stunt like this…for us to believe all these rumors. but then again, if only 1% reads these blogs…why would he waste his time, ya know?
February 27th, 2009 at 2:34 PM
Hey venus, even former President’s have had women on the side and their wives have stood by them.
Taking a man back after he has “wronged” them is all too common IMO.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:34 PM
It’s Elliot Spitzer – thought they were divorced?
February 27th, 2009 at 2:34 PM
Is there any chance at all that we’ve got his backwards, meaning J proposes to Molly but ultimately ends up with Mel?? I’m basing this strictly on the info that Mel *reportedly* returned to work on 12/3 or 12/4, while Molly didn’t get back to work until after January 6th…..
February 27th, 2009 at 2:35 PM
#394, type fans of reality tv into google and it should get you there.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:35 PM
let me add..had i never stumbled onto the FORT or this one this year, i’d be SHOCKED at the outcome. furthermore, i would have NEVER noticed the whole pinky ring thing! so, if there are truly some odd million ppl watching that are hooked (but not so hooked on these blogs), they will be shocked and thrown for a loop!
February 27th, 2009 at 2:36 PM
#399, mahalo.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:36 PM
# 394 virginiabeachcheckingin — http://www.fansofrealitytv.com
February 27th, 2009 at 2:36 PM
eastcoastkelli
No that is not what happens.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:36 PM
“bachelor FORT”
http://www.fansofrealitytv.com/forums/bachelor-spoilers-speculation/
February 27th, 2009 at 2:37 PM
Yup – I told my unspoiled Mom stuff is going to happen and to be prepared. She pressed me for more info but I simply don’t have the energy!
This is my first Bach for me – wow what a season to start.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:37 PM
Venus: The difference between Jason and Melissa and Elliot Spitzer (not Spritzer) and his wife should be obvious to you. Jason and Melissa were never married and, if we’re all honest with ourselves, they hardly even know each other. I’m not saying it would be impossible for her to take him back after this, your analogy is certainly flawed. Let’s face it…it’s just not going to happen.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Venus – you are right – she stayed with him:
Oct 2008
“In fact, this morning, it seems the Spitzers were out on Madision Avenue in Manhattan, celebrating their twenty-first anniversary over toast and oatmeal.
They have not even “separated” as a result of this scandal, which, frankly, is amazing in this day and age. Like Hillary Clinton, Silda Spitzer has stuck by her man through thick and thin, perhaps intending to do so till “death do them part.”
If Silda had wanted a divorce, there is no question she would have been able to prove grounds here. After all, $4200 per hour call girls in the Mayflower Hotel in Washington is not only adultery, it is emotional and constructive abandonment, and it is cruel and inhuman treatment. In New York that is sufficient basis for a divorce.
Silda Spitzer could have probably left her husband with little more than the shirt on his back on this one. He got all the equitable distribution he was entitled with all the “dissipation of marital assets” when he purported to spend that kind of money, by the hour, on call girls.”
February 27th, 2009 at 2:39 PM
#402, #404 – also, thank you!
February 27th, 2009 at 2:40 PM
smp….HUH?
February 27th, 2009 at 2:40 PM
I love how Jason says that Melissa is the ultimate wife, and Molly is great and fun and their relationship is young on The View today. He is very sneaky. I think he is with Melissa if I had to base my thoughts on this show, and the hype of Molly on the WTA was to throw us all off base from RS predictions. >>>
February 27th, 2009 at 2:41 PM
Thanks for posting the View link…
I think came off great and happy on that show.
I too heard Jason describing Melissa saying all those nice things but never heard him say “great mother”, I wonder if that was edited by ABC? I heard Joy then say available at the same time Jason was describing Melissa but perhaps she meant she was all things TO JASON (available TO HIM), not available right now.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:41 PM
#398 maybe that is the real twist and ABC let all these leaks out intentionally. It would make sense as to why Molly got a less lovable edit (JMO) since the show knew the outcome before all the airings.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:42 PM
410-I don’t think he is that good in trying to minipulate us that he seamlessly answers questions that he has no idea are to be asked. I think he means every thing he says.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:43 PM
BRUCELEE
February 27th, 2009 at 2:43 PM
Are you all really comparing Jason and Melissa with Elliot and Silda Spitzer? Can we not see how different the situation is? IF Jason wanted Melissa back after all this (and that is a huge, unlikely IF), she certainly COULD chose to take him back. I’m not saying that’s an impossibility. I’m just saying that there’s a flaw in the logic that says b/c Silda Spitzer and Hillary Clinton stayed with their HUSBANDS (who happen to be politicians), Melissa would definitely chose to return to Jason. That’s it.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:43 PM
Pink, are you sq pants too?
February 27th, 2009 at 2:43 PM
amy – I was just agreeing w/you that the unspoiled viewers will be shocked Mon. I even gave my Mom a heads up (to be ready).
February 27th, 2009 at 2:44 PM
PINKGIRL???
February 27th, 2009 at 2:44 PM
Sq pants???
February 27th, 2009 at 2:45 PM
PINKGIRL
February 27th, 2009 at 2:45 PM
smp-LOL…i need to WAKE UP. this board is getting in my head, i seriously thought you were saying that you were a recent b-ette and you couldn’t say anything to your mom about it! don’t call me crazy please
February 27th, 2009 at 2:46 PM
Hmmm I wonder if Molly is the one who gets upset on ATFR?
February 27th, 2009 at 2:47 PM
Interesting View interview.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:48 PM
roroannie – nope…still waiting to find the pics.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:48 PM
I think they made Molly look great at the WTA to make us think that Jason has a very hard decision to make, Melissa got the good edit all along and because he ‘has to come out smelling like a rose’ they had to hype up Molly so viewers would think of her too being very good for him. HELLLLLLLLOOOOOO, this just woke me up. I think PinkGirl is right, He has to be with Melissa!!!!!
February 27th, 2009 at 2:48 PM
I remember another thing from that Fleiss interview. He said something to the effect that there is no way no how anyone could predict what happened. That it was that freakish. Of course I take anything he says with a grain of salt.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:51 PM
i just can’t think of what could be so “FREAKISH”….dumping melissa…that’s heartless…melissa getting furious….that’s raw emotion….but nothing “freakish” IMO! not even freakish to the unsuspecting viewer!
February 27th, 2009 at 2:51 PM
Trista recently stated that this one truly is shocking & dramatic and to not miss it. Looks like she received an advanced tape.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:51 PM
BRUCELEE
Good job!!!
and would it be possible today that Mel and Jason are not there, because they have already taped them?
February 27th, 2009 at 2:52 PM
Joy cracks me up!! “a bitchy-catty one”
February 27th, 2009 at 2:52 PM
Okay, well. NM Pink.
I seriously need to get away from this b/c now on JU someone has posted that RS has basically gotten it right. Arghhhh.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:53 PM
Got it, Pinkgirl. I just can’t believe how much has leaked about this season. It’s been reported by more than one “co-worker” that Melissa is at work today. How anti-climactic is THAT? At least if she were MIA today (i.e., in LA taping ATFR 2), there would be *some* doubt in my mind. Boo!
February 27th, 2009 at 2:54 PM
IMO we’ll all just have to wait and see, not much longer, Monday will be here before we know it.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:55 PM
Problem is, I just could never like her (Mol), there was just something about her.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:56 PM
DIXIEBELLE
Read what you wrote….
RS has BASICALLY gotten it right.
Hmmm??? So maybe some truth to what he said BUT NOT ALL!!!
February 27th, 2009 at 2:57 PM
#434 I couldn’t agree more.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:58 PM
Maybe Mel didnt want to be on the set with Molly because of what she did, not what RS is saying happened but something else that MOLLY did on her own??????
February 27th, 2009 at 2:58 PM
The View is not live on Fridays . They pre-taped. So…. Jason could be anywhere today. VERY interested to hear all the scoop from the moles at the ATFR2!!!!!
I do believe that this season was not pre scripted, and all Jason. I think what Jason commented on from the famous unseen emails “they made me do it” was making him break up with Melisa on camera. For that, he is a weasel.
February 27th, 2009 at 2:59 PM
Well, I for one am going to laugh my butt off if WE have all been Fleissed. By that I simply mean that I would not put it past him to have intentionally linked the supposed “Jason dumps Mel for Mol” info. Why? To do the very thing he’s accomplishing right now–create buzz for the show, get people even more emotionally involved in the show, and more importantly, to drive those ratings up (especially since February sweeps are now March sweeps
)
I actually brought this up before, but has it ever occurred to people that his reference to Chayefsky (most likely meaning the movie “Network”) might have more to do with how the movies starts out? Long-time news anchor Howard Beale is being fired due to low ratings. He has two more weeks on the air, but the next night, he announces live that he’s going to shoot himself in the head during an upcoming live broadcast. Guess what happens? Ratings soar. So what if we’re Fleiss’s little “Network” experiment? Leak out info that golden boy Jason is going to humiliate golden girl Melissa ON TV by ditching her for not-so-golden girl Molly. Leak that info to just the right person/people, and allow them to fan the flames for you, driving those ratings WAY up. Everyone is glued to their tube for the finale, expecting a trainwreck of emotions, a break-up, a meltdown, you name it. Instead, we get a happy couple and find out we’ve all been punked. Haha!
Perhaps what took guts, according to Chris Harrison, is Jason agreeing to go along with this and play the role of the bad guy to help ABC get its ratings. Maybe that’s how he comes out smelling like a rose–because he really did choose Melissa, is in love with her, and they plan to get married.
Yeah, I know. I’m delusional.
But hey, I haven’t given up yet. It ain’t over ’til the fat lady sings, and I for one will not judge anyone or believe any of this 100% until everything plays out Monday and Tuesday.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:00 PM
RS only has part of it right. Melissa gets the final rose, but he is not engaged to her at the finale. He proposes later but only after he explores his feelings for Molly. So either at #1 or #2 Molly gets the boot.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:00 PM
So if we combine Steve’s version of events with PinkGirl’s.. what do we get?
February 27th, 2009 at 3:00 PM
I’m giving Molly the benefit of the doubt – remember they edit like crazy to portray someone a certain way. If it ends up she was sneaking around w/J then I will have a concrete opinion of her.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:02 PM
I also heard that after he is with Molly, she does something and it makes Jason want to get Melissa back. Maybe part #2 is him begging her back who the hell knows, but I just don’t see Jason with Molly, everything points to Melissa if you read between the lines…..!
February 27th, 2009 at 3:03 PM
BRUCELEE
What happened, you fell onto the wrong path….
February 27th, 2009 at 3:04 PM
I was just playing around…..LOL. I am still on my RIGHT path.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:04 PM
The fact that Molly had on the golf outfit so prim and proper shouted to me “high maintenance”. Then again she could be the opposite considering I don’t know her, but she was never one of my faves.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:04 PM
I take freakish to mean going from F1 to F2 so quickly. If they are now engaged or she’s moving to Seattle so soon after his break with Melissa that’s freakish.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:05 PM
How many of you thought by what they showed of Molly that she was in it to win?
February 27th, 2009 at 3:05 PM
Hmmm BruceLee, that sounds good to me.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:05 PM
Seriously how do we know it’s not either of the women who do something shady and shocking?
February 27th, 2009 at 3:05 PM
I, for one, tend to believe pinkgirl. She has been posting here for days, in the same manner…calm, cool, matter of fact. I can’t see anyone continuing a charade on the board day after day. That might be fun to “punk” people for a few hours, but pinkgirl is always around. I hope you’re right pinkgirl….I want Jason to be the good guy we thought he was and I SO want him to be with Mel!!! At least I won’t be heartbroken on Monday if RS is right…I’ll be prepared, instead of being blindsided and shocked like I was when De picked Jessie. I’m keeping the pinkgirl faith!!!!
February 27th, 2009 at 3:05 PM
Campy, you know I think the world of you but if what you are saying is true….then why the need for an ATFR 1 and 2? And why tape the ATFR 1 early with no audience? Even ABC is pimping Jason’s shocking change of mind. And why the WTA being basically nothing at all….no open audience, no questions for Jason, nada. Also why no Rose Ceremony game this time?
February 27th, 2009 at 3:06 PM
CHRISTINEK
February 27th, 2009 at 3:07 PM
448-I think they were all in it to win so to speak, but I know what you mean and I did get her being less genuine than the rest of the women.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:08 PM
#440 Bruce on ABC Media Net they say in their media release for the FRC and the ATFR 1 “after the most romantic proposal………”
They acknowledge that he proposes at the FRC.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:08 PM
451-I agree
February 27th, 2009 at 3:08 PM
#448 Pinkgirl, I definately thought Molly was in it to win it. She did not come across sincere in anything.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:08 PM
BruceLee & Sharon : most of ur comments sound like u r ABC PR’s..and trying to confuse everyone
Pinkgirl : u seem on the border, u r trying too hard to be on both sides of the fence
February 27th, 2009 at 3:09 PM
#455 maybe it’s a different kind of proposal than what is normally expected.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:10 PM
Dear ABC:
Can I have my life back?
Signed,
Addicted
February 27th, 2009 at 3:10 PM
He does propose in NZ
February 27th, 2009 at 3:10 PM
smp-I do think there was some overlap but I think they will play it off like relationship starts off on ATR1. I don’t buy that Molly sat home for 8 weeks brewing over this and all of a sudden takes him back that day. It makes no sense. Will they admit to cheating? It would be a breath of fresh air if they were honest enough to admit it but doubtful at best.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:10 PM
458-OH God not this again. The minute more than one person agrees, that goes against RS’s full theory we are dubbed ABC plants. I have been consistently posting here and am not a plant.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:10 PM
Georgia Peach, I said I know I’m delusional.
But if you want me to continue on with my delusion, how else are they going to sell us this farce if they don’t tape the ATFR early and then “add” another one? What better way to make us all believe it’s true than to show us the WTA they showed us?
At this point, nothing is going to shock me, I’m afraid. If it does go down as RS and others are saying, the only way it would make any sense to me at all is if Molly really is pregnant or if she lied and said she was.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:11 PM
Perhaps no audience to keep the partially true rumor alive and have us on edge. What if RS has it right EXCEPT that its Molly who gets dumped not Melissa? I mean after all of this who is expecting Jason to pick Molly and then decide Melissa is really the one? I doubt it myself but I wouldn’t put anything past ABC to keep us riled up and salivating for the finales.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:11 PM
Sharon #459 .. maybe you are right ‘I propose we try things in the real world, spend more time yada yada’
February 27th, 2009 at 3:11 PM
ANN
I assure you I am not on the boarder….I am team Mel and J all the way
February 27th, 2009 at 3:12 PM
He will propose to Melissa. I don’t think that’s even in question anymore. The big question is has he since proposed to Molly as well.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:12 PM
Just saw on Jokers that Mel IS at the taping right now, while others on FORT said she was at work…..
February 27th, 2009 at 3:12 PM
LOL tma, NS.
I really don’t think pink is on the border and I’m with ChristineK….she’s been here and been consistent.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:13 PM
At this point Yankee I don’t feel like I know anything for certain.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:15 PM
I can say that in all the time I’ve talked to Pink, her story has not changed at all. Furthermore, she hasn’t fought with anyone to try to convince them she is right – she has just continued to calmly say that J is with Mel.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:15 PM
Yeah i guess he does propose, but truly think that the shocker is something the women do, not Jason.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:16 PM
RS does know some people that are at the ATFR 2 taping right now. I believe he wrote that he would be back later tonight to give an update from them.
Personally, I think what Fleiss and company did to Melissa was so mean that someone on the crew was pissed enough to leak what happened. Perhaps more than one person that works on the show was disgusted and thought MF had crossed a line this time. Do I think MF is milking this for all he can….ABSOLUTELY. I think he could give a flip who he hurts or throws under the bus as long as he gets the rating$$$$$$$$$. We have to remember that MF said himself he thought this would be the last of the Bachelor series.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:17 PM
WHOKNEW
Thank you.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:18 PM
OK I am just playing the fence to get Pinkgirl to lead me in more of a concrete direction. I assure you I do PR for no one. I live on the East Coast and work at a University and today happens to be severely boring here.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:18 PM
BRUCELEE
What University?
February 27th, 2009 at 3:19 PM
439 campy_kc I’m in agreement with you on some of this. I have always believed that Fleiss’s comment about the movie Network meant ‘makes good tv.’ Makes for good ratings. In the movie they considered cutting the guy off and then realized people were tuning into see the guy ranting and raving with the promises to shoot himself and so they kept the camera’s rolling for the ratings.
I think we’ll see someone very upset and the camera’s kept rolling and the editing department decided to keep it in because it will make for good ratings. Hence, the Network reference.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:19 PM
Now – don’t let me down
Wish I could e-mail you privately!
February 27th, 2009 at 3:20 PM
It’s in New York. I just don’t want to say which one.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:21 PM
As far as who really knows the ending, basically only the players know the ending; that is Jason, Molly, Melissa, the crew and whomever has seen the final cut of the the shows.
It’s been an interesting couple of weeks, I for one am looking forward to Monday night to see who’s right and who’s wrong!
February 27th, 2009 at 3:21 PM
I understand. I would not say either. I should not have asked. Sorry.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:21 PM
Well I can’t get onto FORT – must be packed. Confused about Mel – was she or wasn’t she there today?
February 27th, 2009 at 3:21 PM
GP-that would go against them saying that the whole crew cried they were so happy at the outcome.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:22 PM
I can’t get on FORT either -
February 27th, 2009 at 3:23 PM
#460….can i sign my name to that too???
February 27th, 2009 at 3:23 PM
How has pink been consistent? She’s stringing you along without really giving you any information. She just keeps asking rhetorical questions and feeding into everyone’s feelings for Melissa. She hasn’t told us anything or indicated in any way how/why she might have information that RS does not. It’s really easy to plant doubt in people’s mind. And the fact that she’s been here for days really says nothing. We’ve all been here for days…does that make any of us any more or less credible. I’m exhausted….believe what you will, I guess. But blind hope that Melissa and Jason will be together in the end will not make it so….
February 27th, 2009 at 3:23 PM
Pinkgirl – just a quick follow up re: country club/Brian. I talked to my Dad today and he said Brian is the bar mgr. He had a couple beers last night and just heard me say “manager” not the general part. I gave him a very hard time though!
February 27th, 2009 at 3:23 PM
I’m hungry. I forfeit lunch for this stuff…
Pathetic I am.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:23 PM
I thought Mel was supposed to be there today. We won’t know for sure until people report in about ATR2. I still think it’s weird they are filming it with an audience. Maybe so much has gotten out they don’t care anymore. lol
February 27th, 2009 at 3:24 PM
So Pink, did J ever REALLY considered Mol?
February 27th, 2009 at 3:25 PM
Remmie – go back and read Pinks messages…….she ALMOST tells you who she is. I understand she can’t give any more info.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:25 PM
SMP
Thanks. I am really not sure about any of that. I would like to believe that she would not do that but I do not know. Thank you for the information.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:26 PM
I know Sharon – I’ll have to stock up on Slim Fast to stay nourished!
February 27th, 2009 at 3:26 PM
Dixiebelle
I think it is safe to say if he took her to the last 2 then he would have considered her…..
February 27th, 2009 at 3:26 PM
#486 — absolutely. at least i know i’m not alone.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:26 PM
Yankee, they are usually filmed with an audience, last year’s ATFR with Deanna and Jesse was made up of paid extras and friends of Deanna’s, I know someone who went.
Year’s ago ABC used to put an open invitation to apply on their Bachelor and Bachelorette website, but it appears recently its been by invitation only, with the exception of the ATFR1 where no-one was in the audience.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:27 PM
487-She is the only one who has offered a different outcome that has been consistently posting. That is the difference. She has said that she only a has few facts and one of them is that Jason is with Mel. Isn’t that same thing RS did except he made long blogs full of mostly his “speculation”? Pinkgirl seems just not interested in posting longs posts of nothing but HER speculation since she has admitted she doesn’t know everything and how it all goes down, just one crucial part.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:27 PM
smp – thanks for checking that out – I didn’t know his position, but was pretty sure about the country club. DId we have the name right last night or was it a different last name. Like I said, I wasn’t sure.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:27 PM
492 the only thing I got out of pinkgirls cryptic message was that she was not related in any way to Molly or Melissa, she was not Mike Fleiss’ wife.
Pinkgirl could be anyone, the same as I could be anyone, we are all anonymous on these boards.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:28 PM
Also, the WTA is usually open the the public for taping but this year the sign said “closed set” when my friend tried to go there. Weird all around if you ask me. I bet WE ARE ALL WRONG!!
February 27th, 2009 at 3:29 PM
LOL….good one, I left myself wide open for that!!
Remmie, I agree with #492.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:29 PM
I kind of agree with Whoknew re Pink; she’s been so calm and consistent for days now, never changes her story, regardless of whether anyone believes it or not, and doesn’t really try to change anyone else’s mind; just states her case.
Who knows who’s right – I can see J. proposing to Melissa, then having something get thrown into the whole situation by Molly (or someone else), Mel getting upset and perhaps even the engagement being put on hold; J exploring his options with both of them, finds out whatever was thrown into the scene isn’t real, and is trying to work it out with Mel; I can’t see him with Molly honestly; she’s a total country club/jet set group, and he’s pretty typical background; Mel might have a good family background but nothing like the $ it appears Molly comes from. I can’t see her throwing that lifestyle away for him, and I can see her parents accepting him into it, regardless of that game they played with the hats, etc. Plus he’s already said he’s not willing to move and compromise on where he lives, etc.
But guess we’ll all know on Monday. I think RS may have been fed some bogus stuff here and there but think he probably got the gist of it; except for the very ending, which I am now believing more and more is Mel.
But, JMO, and nothing to base it on really.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:29 PM
I’ve been thinking of a way to let ABC know what America likes and doesn’t like to see on the Bachelor. (I haven’t had a chance to read through all the comments, so please forgive me if I am repeating something here.) So…
If you find it distasteful or offensive that ABC could have created a predetermined plot for a “reality” tv show to boost their ratings, PLEASE consider disconnecting (unplugging) your cable from your TV during the time the Bachelor shows air next week…instead just use rabbit ears when the show airs. When you watch the show without your cable connected to your tv, ABC will not be able to “count” you as a viewer in their ratings.
I think, if enough of us do that–their ratings will actually drop for the Finale and ATFR shows next week, thus sending ABC the message that distasteful plots don’t boost ratings nor are they what “America” wants to see. I’m planning on doing it! Anybody with me?
February 27th, 2009 at 3:30 PM
who – my Dad said last name starts w/J (he said that today w/no beer in him). I am 98% the country club where they golfed is EV. Anything else – no clue but I should make my Dad go there and fish for some info – that would be the least he could do.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:31 PM
My attitude is simply one of “I’m still going to get up on Tuesday and go to a job I hate but am grateful I still have right now.” If it all plays out the way we’ve been led to believe, then sure, I’m going to think that Jason is a douchebag and Mike Fleiss is scum–but I already think that about Fleiss anyway, so it doesn’t matter. I’m never going to meet Jason or Melissa or Molly, so I doubt my opinion of all of this much matters to them. We’re all going to watch come Monday and Tuesday, so Fleiss and ABC are going to get the ratings and attention they’re looking for. And the world is going to go on and we’ll all be watching the next Bachelor or Bachelorette when it rolls around. It’s just not worth getting all worked up over something I can’t control and something I have yet to even see. I’ve said all along that I’m withholding judgment until I see it all with my own eyes. And that’s what I intend to do.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:31 PM
bruce lee-WTA had an audience.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:31 PM
497-Oh, I believe people are there today and I know it’s usually with an audience. I just thought this year with all that went down they would try and keep it more under wraps. I can’t wait to hear all the details. I can’t even get in to read at FORT I know a few of them were going. Lucky!!
February 27th, 2009 at 3:31 PM
Pinkgirl sounds like Althea or whoever that person was that set up her own blog who has been saying the VERY SAME THING as pinkgril, but has printed a ton of retractions b/c her story fell apart. Now she’s probably here posting (she was posting here before as well). Whatever. Believe what you will and then when Jason and Molly are together in the end, your hopes and dreams for he and Mel will be crushed. That’s something you’re going to have to deal with, not me. Good luck with that.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:32 PM
#504 UM the only problem is finding Rabbit ears so last minute and we bloggers are only 1% of the over 12 million viewers, no way would that work…..good idea though, KUDOS!!!!
February 27th, 2009 at 3:33 PM
ed- on FORT there was an interesting post by someone who is a die hard General Hospital fan (also ABC). Seems the fans have been VERY vocal about the show changing to mob related stuff, no love stories, blood shed etc. TPTB are simply ignoring the fans.
She took that to mean they just don’t care – even if viewership falls. Of course ABC daytime is different than prime but it was interesting to read what she wrote.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:34 PM
Yeah Alethea does have a PINK website…..! And on FORT Amy they speculated to the point of determining that the audience was not real…..go read.!!!!
February 27th, 2009 at 3:34 PM
I would love if he proposed to Melissa and he’s still with her, but I believe there’s a break and he’s now with Molly. I would be more than happy to be wrong.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:35 PM
509-Hopes and Dreams? Come on you really think this is going to affect those of us that are rooting for Mel and Jason like that? I would be over it in 5 minutes, ok maybe 6. LOL
February 27th, 2009 at 3:35 PM
Well I am outta here until tonight to see what RS posts and what is on FORT if we can get on FORT later. Have a good one all…..!
February 27th, 2009 at 3:36 PM
My post didn’t show – testing, testing 123
February 27th, 2009 at 3:36 PM
bruce lee-i did read the speculation, but i know for a FACT that there was an audience…no biggie!
February 27th, 2009 at 3:36 PM
FORT is back up for me.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:36 PM
Thanks #509, I need all I can get!
February 27th, 2009 at 3:37 PM
#517 OK.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:39 PM
Bye BruceLee, have a good one.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:40 PM
smp – I’m back on, too.
Pink – are you Squaredpants on FORT? And is that your picture? I’m pretty sure that’s you!
February 27th, 2009 at 3:41 PM
This just posted on FORT, interview w/Jason:
http://tvwatch.people.com/2009/02/27/bachelor-jason-i-have-found-the-one/
February 27th, 2009 at 3:43 PM
If Melissa is at work today I would have to think that her segment may have been taped seperately and possibly it’s that she is happy now with her ex. I know there has been discussion about her being with an ex-boyfriend and that is what my friend had told me about a week ago.
I’m so confused.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:43 PM
#522 I asked her that too. They are similar.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:43 PM
You say that we just “blindly’ believe pinkgirl, without having any real reason to. Well, come to think of it, I have been just “blindly” believing RS without any real proof since he broke his story. To tell you the truth, I don’t know what to believe anymore. Every once in a while posters throw something in and you just find a ring of truth to it. Why do I believe pinkgirl…I can’t really tell you why, I just do. If pinkgirl really knows nothing, she’s spent an awful lot of time here posting. She hasn’t done it to stir up trouble, like all of the jerks that were so rude the past few days. IDK, I suppose I’ll be the next to be called out as an “ABC PLANT”…don’t I wish….wouldn’t have to worry about getting fired from my job for being on here so much, as I’d be getting PAID to be on here…LOL
February 27th, 2009 at 3:45 PM
Sharon: I’ve heard that too (I’m sure we’ve all had b/c it was most certainly posted on this site at some point). I for one hope that she’s not with an ex-boyfriends since her friends (on the HTD) had such low opinions of all of Mel’s exes.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:46 PM
LOLOL Christine. I feel the same way you do. It’s maddening, really.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:46 PM
#504 It doesn’t matter if you watch by cable or rabbit ears. Ratings are done by Neilsen and others. They take a certain section of people and have them log everything they watch or they used to attach a box to your tv.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:48 PM
Pinkgirl – you have never varied from tour opinion. I will vouch for that.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:48 PM
#517 the audience for the WTA was not open to the public. It was hand picked by ABC.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:50 PM
ChristineK: The difference between Pinkgirl and RS is that RS has shown his face. He’s been here for YEARS, not days. We know his real name, we know what he looks like, and he doesn’t post under a made up name and give cryptic clues as to who he is. At least he’s up front with us. I’ve said this before: Believe who you want to believe, but…logically…there’s no real reason to believe Pinkgirl over RS at this point. Maybe the reason you believe Pinkgirl is because you WANT to believe her. Heck…I WANT to believe her…but just b/c I want something to happen doesn’t make it so. That’s it. I guess we’ll all see Monday!
February 27th, 2009 at 3:50 PM
PinkGirl, License and registration please……LOL. I really hope you are not playing with everyone here, you are going to make them go mad HAHAHAHA. J/K!
Let’s all wait people!!!!! We are all really excited but all there is to do is wait, wait and wait….
February 27th, 2009 at 3:51 PM
Ooops *your*
February 27th, 2009 at 3:51 PM
Where did Pinkgirl go?
February 27th, 2009 at 3:52 PM
I’m not a member of FORT so can’t post there – also can’t read bio’s of those who do post. But Squaredpants sure does sound like our girl Pink!
February 27th, 2009 at 3:53 PM
Sharon: She’s updating her pink blog as Alethea.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:53 PM
I wondered that, too Sharon. If Squaredpants is her and that’s her picture, she’s a real knockout!!!
February 27th, 2009 at 3:54 PM
#531, the same way it was handpicked for Deanna’s ATFR last season. Things that make you go hmmmm.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:54 PM
Pinkgirl are you squarepants on FORT?
February 27th, 2009 at 3:58 PM
Can someone post a link of Squarepants on FORT?
February 27th, 2009 at 3:59 PM
I am new to all the “Pink” theories, but personally, I still find it hard to believe that Jason is (still) with Melissa after everything RS has told us. After RS broke the news, and ABC picked up on it, I think their actions really betray everything they’ve been attempting to hide. RS made a really going point about CH’s blog. Although I love him, I do believe that he was trying a little to hard to rebuff all the rumors, when, if RS had given us false information, he would’ve played it a little cooler knowing that the truth would be reaveal during the finale and ATFR.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:59 PM
Pink Girl–Is there any one person on here today that is pretty close to being right?
February 27th, 2009 at 3:59 PM
http://www.fansofrealitytv.com/forums/bachelor-spoilers-speculation/80243-jason-view-38.html
Sharon – see if that works
February 27th, 2009 at 4:00 PM
um.. didn’t you say that you think it was a set-up that he chose Melissa all along? And you say you can’t think of anything that would lead to her having a giant meltdown other than hearing he dated Molly as well after? How about if he tells her he always wanted Molly and TPTB made him act like he was falling in love with Melissa all along?
February 27th, 2009 at 4:00 PM
The People interview does not give any new lines from Jason except what we have allready heard. I do recall Jason saying something somewhere in all this mess that he wanted someone who would challenge him every day of his life not just support him. I do believe he is fed what lines to use in these interviews so they mean nothing to me as many of the things he says are contradictory.
February 27th, 2009 at 4:01 PM
interesting on the website….
“Melissa is really that ultimate woman that is going to stand by your side forever. She’s fun. She’s beautiful and exciting and willing to try new things. Molly is the balance of a lot of different things. We have a great friendship going. There’s passion there. She’s got her eyes wide open to the world. They are both amazing — to use my favorite word — which made for a very, very tough decision.”
February 27th, 2009 at 4:07 PM
Why would anyone ever hurt “that ultimate woman that is going to stand by your side forever?”
February 27th, 2009 at 4:07 PM
Hmmm Squaredpants sounds like Pinkgirl and vicer versa.
Where’d she go all of a sudden?
Maybe she went to eat, which is what I should do.
The only think I feel l know in my hearts of hearts is that Jason is not this big jerk and is actually a wonderful man, and I don’t believe for a second that all the emotions were nothing less than real. I refuse to believe Jason is a good actor wherein lies why I doubt RS’s theory so much.
Everything else I stand confuzzled :/
February 27th, 2009 at 4:08 PM
I meant **anything less than real.
February 27th, 2009 at 4:08 PM
Video of Shannon saying Jason is proposing for the 4th time…..Starts off by saying 5, then goes starts listing the woman and corrects herself saying 4.
http://www.etonline.com/
February 27th, 2009 at 4:09 PM
#532 I agree with you about RS. He has nothing to gain by letting this cat out of the proverbial bag. What, exactly, is pinkgirl gaining by coming in here day after day and posting what she’s posting? She’s not linking sights and starting trouble, that’s all I’m pointing out. I flip-flop on what I believe as much as Jason flip-flops on fiances….LOL I guess I just don’t know why those of us that find pinkgirl’s posts interesting are autmatically called out on it…like we must be crazy to believe anything other than the “truth” we’ve been told. I’ve prepared myself for the very real possibility that all of what RS says is the real truth, and now with other media outlets reporting, it’s looking more and more as though that is the case. You can’t fault some of us for having a little glimmer of hope that the outcome may be different…something we might be happy with. UGH…can we just skip Saturday and Sunday??? Isn’t that pathetic….I’m wishing away the weekend over this??!!
February 27th, 2009 at 4:09 PM
Maybe the reason Jason doesn’t answer the “are you engaged?” question is because he’s already married? If in fact he did fall hard for Mel right away, it’s been long enough now that they may have sealed the deal. I pretty much knew after a couple of months with my now hubby of 20 years, that he was the one, and I was 33 at the time. I just don’t see Jason as being the kind of guy who would deliberately hurt someone he cared for, be it Mel OR Molly. He seemed rather uncomfortable alot during the show, maybe because he already knew what he was going to do.
February 27th, 2009 at 4:09 PM
New article in People:
http://tvwatch.people.com/2009/02/27/bachelor-jason-i-have-found-the-one/
February 27th, 2009 at 4:10 PM
There really seems to be a disconnect with the way the show was promoted in the beginning . . .”The most romantic Bachelor season ever!”, the promise of an engagement, etc. and the way it’s currently being presented. Heck, the “Star” of the show can’t even bring himself to say the word ‘engaged’ now. Something stinks.
February 27th, 2009 at 4:10 PM
Yeah, but like someone said on FORT, why would he say he had “passion” with Mol if he actually was w/Mel????
February 27th, 2009 at 4:10 PM
I feel bad saying this, but does anyone else see the irony in Jason’s statement that Molly as having “her eyes wide open to the world”?
February 27th, 2009 at 4:10 PM
Oops already posted haha!
What do you guys think of the dresses? If those are the dresses, what happened to the lilac flowy one????
February 27th, 2009 at 4:11 PM
I though about that Remmie, that seems telling to me. Almost like “she realized I made a mistake and was willing to see that and susequently forgave me.” Whatcha think?
February 27th, 2009 at 4:12 PM
Sigh. I’ve been reading for a couple weeks now (luckily I’ve been off work due to a surgery last month, but I’m going back next week – just in time for all this to be over) and told myself that I wouldn’t get caught up in posting anything.
But after hearing Jason on the WTA talking about Jillian, listening to what he said on the View today, and reading the People article…
is Jason’s new favorite word “ultimate”??
February 27th, 2009 at 4:12 PM
557- You mean a rude awakening???