Some Final Thoughts on Tonight’s “Shocker”
So as we head into a “shocking” finale that I’ve waited six weeks for, a couple thoughts about everything in general.
As for the Megan interview, I was able to recover some of the audio, but I can’t upload it now. So what I’m doing is transcribing the last 35 minutes we did so you can read my questions and her answers in a nutshell. I will have that up either later tonight or in tomorrow’s column.
Let’s start with another interview conducted this weekend by none other than, you guessed it, Hairbotique.com. Can’t say I’d ever think in a million years they’d want to talk to me, but hey, I enjoyed it. The author is a big fan of mine, they’re based here in the DFW metroplex, and she wanted to get my story out there. I think the one thing about this interview you’ll find different is its actually about me, not the news I broke. That’s been covered ad nauseum and I think you all know about what happens tonight. No, this one is just about me, my background, and what makes me tick. I think. Take a look for yourself. Here’s the link:
UPDATE: Looks like the problem is fixed and everyone should be able to access the link now, which is why I took down the other post where I cut and pasted the interview.
As for tonight, I think a lot of people have gotten on me for attacking Jason and Molly’s character throughout this whole process, and really, I don’t think I have. Do I think what he did was wrong? Yes. Does that make him a bad person? Depends on how you look at it. I think he’s a decent guy, but a horrible decision maker and easily manipulated. Let’s face it, Jason Mesnick, in the last 12 months:
-Proposed to DeAnna and got rejected
-Agreed to sign on for another reality show where 25 girls would chase him
-Proposed to Melissa and she accepted
-Two months later, changes his mind, dumps her on national TV, and starts up with yet another girl, Molly
I mean, the guy seems to be like a kid in a candy store. He doesn’t know what he wants. I don’t see that as being the “catch” that ABC is making him out to be, I’m sorry. I think he’s one of those guys that probably didn’t date a lot before he got married, got divorced, felt pretty down about the whole thing, had an opportunity to come on this show, got dumped by DeAnna, then does this season, only to be manipulated and do what he was told. I think this guy just tries to please too many people and doesn’t take a stand for himself. Is that a character assassination? I don’t think so. I think it’s a character flaw that he has. We all have character flaws. Hell, I know I do. But I also know that I never would’ve done this to Melissa, or any woman for that matter.
The bottom line is this regarding Jasons character: Regardless of if he had a “change of heart” and “couldn’t take his mind off Molly”, Jason DID NOT have to break up with Melissa on camera and embarrass her like that. Period. End of story. Yes, he’s under contract to ABC to create a story and a show here, but if he puts his foot down and refuses to dump her at the ATFR 1 taping, it could’ve happened. But he didn’t. And that is one of the things I “couldn’t wrap my head around.” He chose to embarrass her instead of breaking up with her off camera. So judge his character based on that.
As for Molly, hey, I’ve said this from day one, I DID NOT KNOW what her role was in all this. I know she knew something, but at what point and how much is the million dollar question. When I first broke the news, I was convinced Molly didn’t know anything when she left New Zealand. And I still believe that. After I heard about what went down at the ATFR 1 taping, I figured she was pretty upset and left New Zealand pretty unhappy. I ruled out Jason telling her before the final rose ceremony, “Ok, here’s what’s gonna happen. I’m gonna dump you, pick Melissa, but take you back in two months. Got it? Ok, now act all upset tomorrow.” No, I don’t think that happened at all. I think she thought she had a good chance to be picked, but when she wasn’t, was devastated and left New Zealand scorned and upset.
It wasn’t until about 3 weeks ago that I started hearing rumors about Jason and Molly seeing each other on weekends he wasn’t with Melissa, which then started to make sense. Only problem, once again, is I can’t prove it. In fact, no one can other than Jason, Molly, and those closely involved with the show. And they’ll never admit to it because that makes them guilty. Especially when Jason denies to Melissa tonight he ever had contact with Molly in the two months he and her were engaged. I think he’s lying. C’mon, no guy would break off an engagement with someone in “hoping” that a girl he dumped two months earlier would give him a second chance. He had to be pretty confident Molly would take him back. And the only way that’s possible is if they had contact. C’mon people. Take off the blinders and think outside the box. It’s not that far fetched. This is a TV show. It’s drama. They can do whatever they want with these people once they sign up. Are you really believing these two never spoke in two months? Sure, they’re going to play it off as she’s shocked, she’s got a ton of questions, but she never stopped loving him and is willing to try, but just like the rest of the season, it just seems something is fishy about all this. I asked Megan in our interview point blank, “As a woman, if that were you, and you’d had no contact with the guy for two months, and he just dumped his fiance, would you take him back that quickly?” Megan’s response: “OMG. Are you crazy?”
Plus, Jasons story in all this is that he was in love with two women. Ok, I’ll even give you that, buddy. You love both of them. Up until that morning of the final rose ceremony, you’re completely torn about the two. So if you’re THAT conflicted about who to choose, why then a proposal? The “Bachelor” stipulates that you are by no means necessary forced to propose to someone. It’s encouraged, but you’re not obligated to. Yet again, I think he’s trying to please too many people here. ABC would like a proposal, so he gave them one. Melissa I’m sure would’ve loved to be proposed to, so he did. It just doesn’t make sense. The guy had a degree in psychology, am I right? How can he think proposing when he was that torn between two women would be the right idea? He will tell us til the end of time that he went with his heart, and truly thought Melissa and he would be together forever when he proposed. I’m sorry, but I don’t believe that. I will always believe Jason knew he wanted to be with Molly in the end and was told to pick Melissa in a plan that would lead to this “shocking” ending, and he agreed to do it.
As for his appearance on the “View” this past Friday, pretty bland. He didn’t say anything that surprised me. Of course he’s gonna say the show isn’t scripted. Uhhhh, admitting that it is would essentially kill the show as we know it. It’s funny, Jason first comes out and says, “Look, I know there’s tons of rumors floating around out there, I don’t even have time to read all them. They’re crazy. I don’t even follow what’s being said on the internet. BUT, I do want to kill one theory and that’s that the show is scripted. It’s not. This is completely real.” Gee, how convenient? He doesn’t follow any of the rumors going around, yet, he decides to squelch the one that’d be the most damaging to the show? How nice. It’s also funny that at the beginning of the season, he’s screaming from the mountaintops “I’m engaged! Yippee!” But all interviews recently, with “People”, the “View”, the “Women Tell All” show, and it’s, “I’m extremely happy. You’re just gonna have to watch and see what happens.” Very telling.
So I just wanted to get these thought out there before we watch everything tonight. I will definitely come back tomorrow with some more thoughts after watching, and will have the last part of the Megan interview up if its not up later tonight, plus, I’m working on some other things for this week. As for the emails, I’m still deciding on what to do. I want to see how tonight and tomorrow play out, and then I’ll make a decision. Any questions, comments, emails, praises, criticisms, last ditch crazy ass theories that you might have, feel free to email me at steve@realitysteve.com. Check back later today for the last half of the Megan interview. If not, it’ll be in tomorrow’s column. Until then. March 2nd is finally here! Woo hoo!
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:36 PM
Steve I hope you decide to post the emails! The world needs to know who Jason is!
Can’t wait for tonight
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:37 PM
Yay! I was hoping for a “final thoughts” blog, and we got it! Thanks, Steve, for all of your findings and speculations over the past few weeks. Looking forward to your ATFR 1 and 2 comments.
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:38 PM
Interesting read, but that’s it?
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:42 PM
Great column as always!
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:43 PM
I hope you decide to post the e-mails.
I have been waiting what feels like forever for tonight to be here.
Can’t wait for tomorrow’s column!
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:44 PM
If Jason dumps Melissa and then asks Molly back during the ATFR part 1 which was in late Jan we are supposed to believe that by late Feb. she’s ready to move on out to Seattle? It only took 4 weeks for her to get over not being the “chosen one” and “second choice”, develop strong enough feelings to want to move to Seattle with someone who has problems “sticking”. Raises red flags….there is no way she wasn’t seeing him prior to the ATFR1. Like Megan said it would OMG WTF ever loser!
Also per the recap of her comments she said her parents had questions but love him now during the ATFR2. Since when are parents privy to the outcome before the finale? I’ve heard other F2’s talking about how hard it was to not tell mom or dad, etc. So obviously at some point between ATFR1 and 2 Jason won over Molly’s parents?
Also…I think they got Jillian to agree to be Bachette at the WTA before any of the sordid details came out.
and that’s all I have to say about that….
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:48 PM
Steve – Regarding the emails, I would like to see them, too, but……this is for sure……even if you DO post them, the doubters will still not believe the truth. They’ll come up with some ridiculous argument that the emails are fake, or whatver. There are some people, even when the truth is right in front of their faces, absolutely refuse to believe it.
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:50 PM
Gee Steve we keep getting cut short of 1000 posts. (a new blog comes out). i think that is a ploy of yours so you don’t have to give a prize to the 1000th post winner!!! J/K!!! but it is awful timely!
i agree with you completely on the above and now need to go read the interview.
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:50 PM
#6 – Trophy – I think Jillian agreed before she knew what had happened also. I hope she will not do it.
On the last thread at the end, I posted basically that J won’t be able to support Mol in the way she’s accustomed – won’t be able to pay her Country Club dues – he sold his heart to Fleiss for Molly – all he has left to sell is his soul. From what I’ve seen of J, he’d sell his soul to the devil for his selfish wants.
I’m ready for this to be over. I 100% believe Molly knew J was still engaged to Mel – he did interviews sayign he was. I believe they were seeing each other – and I suspect Mel caught on to it. You know what they say – out of the mouth of babes. I would assume J had Ty around occasionally – and he would not understand the “deny until you die” – I can see he would have innocently mentioned Mol to Mel.
Guess we’ll see tonight.
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:52 PM
Thanks for sharing your thoughts Steve. Absolutely don’t post the emails unless you have Melissa’s direct permission. Our voyeuristic pleasure and desire to show up Fleiss for the manipulator he is does not compare with her right to some sort of dignity and control over her own situation. But if she wants them out then go for it.
I hae enjoyed the ride and am glad to have made your acquaintance!
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:53 PM
Is Steve’s interview supposed to be cut off after his college information???
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:54 PM
Whoknew – what makes you think Jason can’t afford a country club? or that money is an issue?
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:54 PM
My only question is, will Jillian turn out to be weak like Mesnick?
Or will she stand up to Fleiss when he wants to go off some deep end?
Something tells me Mesnick could have forced them to do things differently. He just had no family jewels.
Fleiss can jin up all the endings he wants for al;l the ratings he wants, but even at the threat of a lawsuit, all of this coming out in a jury civil trial? Fleiss does not want that. Jason should have said no to the nonsense, and if he had the hots for “Green-eyed” Molly from the start, the show could have been presented like Charlie & Sarah-Bee.
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:55 PM
I’m so excited to see you proven right tonight. I think you nailed it on the head with Jason’s character flaw. People pleasing is a serious flaw at the expense of others.
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:56 PM
Steve-Thanks for all of your hard work.I guess
the funniest part for me has been Deanna coming
back asking her F2 to come back and then Jason comes
back and ask for his F2 Back….Oh, but this
was not scripted!
Deanna must have gotten some mega bucks for this one.
Steve, she is having some kind of chat on her work
website tonight after the show
http://www.getmarried.com
You should go on and talk to her!!!!!!!
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:56 PM
It’s your day of vindication Steve!!! Yippee!
March 2nd, 2009 at 1:58 PM
Georgie and Sharon
Sitting in a tree
Y – E – A – S – T – I – E
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:00 PM
Steve, I am guessing you’ve been online forever, and you have to know what a serious breech of netiquette it is to post private e-mails without permission of all people being quoted. I hope you won’t post them, they won’t prove anything to the doubters (they’ll just say they’re fake and slam you for being part of a hoax). You’ve already told us what they said, you’ve told us that you verified the email addresses, seeing the actual words doesn’t make a difference. It’s just not a cool thing to do, imo, and it feels creepy. Thanks.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:00 PM
hi Alltime -
He’s a salesman – this is a bad economy. The cost of living in Seattle area is high – and he lives with his brother. I’m sure he’s a middle class guy – can afford the necessities, but not the extras –
IF Molly can get a job in Seattle area (and you know what the job situation is like right now), then I’m sure they could afford the extras. But an exclusive private country club dues are high – out of the range of most. The club she belonged to was exclusive – very expensive.
So – I think J could afford a normal country club like most of us can join – but I completely doubt he can keep Molly in the position she’s used to. JMO
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:02 PM
Once a cheater, always a cheater!
As I’ve said before, Jason and Molly deserve each other. Let them do their walk of shame and have to live with that the rest of their lives. There will always be someone that runs into them and lets them know what snakes they are. Women never forget, and they will be hiding under rocks for years to come.
Steve, you rock dude. iI years past \, it was disgusting how many commercials were run promoting TB, most dramatic ending etc. Well here in Arizona in the last week, we’ve had one, that’s right, one preview for Monday’s episode. That tells me 100% Steve was right and ABC has had to scramble to try and show us a new story tonight to cover their *ss.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:02 PM
I will repost this from the last blog. As for the yeat person, you need to get laid.
I’m right here. I don’t post on weekends, too busy.
I have to wonder how some people have lumped me in with Pinkgirl and now the backlash of having a different opinion about the ending is now a wrath I must endure by some on here.
I never claimed to know anything for sure unlike Pinkgirl and simply said I won’t judge someone based on what RS has speculated. I am pretty much convinced that RS was right about just about everything (not everything, scripted, etc..) but most of it and I am floored because my opinion of Jason has sank. I wanted to give the benefit of the doubt to him and others and if you look at 90% of what I posted that is what I was trying to do. I was simply a doubter of RS and didn’t participate in any name-calling or judging of anyone until I saw it for myself…if that is so wrong then owell.
I did read someone saying I was only here to cause trouble and I have to wonder what posts that person was reading because although I had a couple back and forths with some on here and actually had to defend myself for standing up fro Jason, all in all I have had a good time and got along with many more than I didn’t.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:03 PM
I’d like to see RS release the e-mails to a magazine – I think letting people read them would let everyone see how rotten J is. It would also show you Mel was innocent in this. Mel might agree – I doubt J would. But, the truth is that J is sooooo wrong.
I like your comments BigEd (13).
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:04 PM
Anyone want to discuss this theory?
I am not sure if this is out there yet. But I have been thinking about how in RS’s blog he shares about how D. tells J that she picked her wildcard…and J was really the one she wanted (yada yada…and a free trip to New Z.)
What if ABC tries to spin it like Mel is the J’s wildcard…yada yada she knew all along she was the wildcard. And J chose her b/c he DIDN’T want to pick Mol and then dump her if things didn’t work out. So instead he picks Mel…and she knows she is being picked so that he can work his feelings out for Mol?
IDK just an idea on how Fleiss and CO could spin this so that everybody comes out smelling like roses (IE Mel signed up knowing it was possible that she would be dumped on national tv. it was a possibility-but never THE ONE option-J could have been engaged to Mel for the contract time and then walked away, or have chosen Mol right away.
IDK just something I have been thinking about.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:06 PM
#19 whoknew. Jason is a philanthropist. he isn’t in sales. i’m sure he has plenty of money. they conveniently avoided his occupation so as not to draw attention to it.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:07 PM
tooonice 23 – you could be right about ABC’s spin. Maybe it’s our responsibility to see to it that everyone knows the truth!! I for one will be telling everyone I know – and then they tell 2 people……and they tell 2 people…..and…………….
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:09 PM
Jason is a people pleaser who believed the people working behind the scenes were his friends. They promised him they had his back, they would make him look good, Melissa would be the next bachelorette and she’d ultimately be happy. He was way too trusting and way too spineless.
I hope Jillian doesn’t fall for it. JILLIAN! THEY ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS. Be suspicious of everything they tell you! Their primary goal is to create drama = get ratings. Period.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:10 PM
A philanthropist? His bio said he was an insurance salesman. Explain what you mean.
Seeing his home, I doubt he has a lot of money – plus, I wouldn’t want to live with a brother. But you could be right.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:10 PM
Ultimately if Molly and Jason were so selfish in this, karma will catch up with them eventually.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:11 PM
I agree 28, Sharon. It will not be a made in heaven relationship – nor do they deserve it to be.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:11 PM
Philanthropy is the act of donating money, goods, services, time and/or effort to support a socially beneficial cause, with a defined objective and with no financial or material reward to the donor. In a more general sense, philanthropy may encompass any altruistic activity intended to promote good or improve human quality of life. One who practices philanthropy may be called a philanthropist. Although such individuals are often rich, people may perform philanthropic acts without possessing great wealth. (AHHH who doesn’t love Wikipedia)
On most of the other bachelors didn’t they tell us what the bach did? What are we suppose to think when we are told he is a philant.? That he has enough money that all he does is give it away? LOL idk that doesn’t make sense to me.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:13 PM
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March 2nd, 2009 at 2:14 PM
Doesn’t make sense to me either, tooonice. I guess time will tell. Maybe they say he is a philanthropist because he’s currently unemployed (just kidding) or (more likely) to make him look like a good guy!
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:14 PM
It says that b/w he is an account executive in the field of estate and legacy planning. EH, I guess it is a good job to have, even in a bad economy people have to plan on dying.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:15 PM
i have a quick question that mayb someone can help answer. if u didnt see my earlier post i had mentioned that i think its possible for j 2 have picked mel, and then changed his mind cuz he wanted 2 b w/ mol and the producers wouldnt let him see her unless he agreed to go along with this whole thing about dumping mel on air, etc. etc.
my question is, to those of you who think it was scripted much earlier than this..i just don’t understand what anyone has to gain in that situation? assuming mel and molly werent in on it. what does jason get? the “possibility” that mol wil take him back later? and even if mol is in on it (which RS has said he didnt believe in the beginning), aside from potentially receiving $ which i dont think anyone has said they have, how do j and mol benefit from this? thats wut i dont understand…
even if j changed his mind after he picked mel n then tried to get mol back, i think thats a huge @$$hole move to go along with the producers, but i can see him doing it if he was brokenhearted over not being w/ molly….but about making this “deal” to string mel along the whole time and pretend to have connections with other girls, make out, cry at rose ceremonies, etc. i just don’t know what J would personally gain, you know? espeeecially if he was “in love” w/ molly from the beginning
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:17 PM
34: Simple “you want her? You do it our way…” (said in a mafioso tone).
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:17 PM
I have been reading that Molly’s old boyfriend of 3 years was a married golf pro at her father’s country club. This would explain why they never liked him. Also, it would explain how she wouldn’t necessarily be upset about being sloppy seconds. If this is true, he drops a nice girl for a homewrecker. If that is not bad enough, he then moves her up to Seattle to be an influence on his son. I really don’t see how he has his son’s best interests at heart. If he plans on moving her in with the both of them to shack up with an already unmarried couple, how is this teaching his son good morals? This guy needs to remain single and curb his horndog tendancies.
Has anyone else heard that about Molly and her ex?
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:18 PM
36 where have you read that? I have heard rumors here on RS about that being said. But noone has given links to other sites that say it yet.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:22 PM
Though I wish you were just a bogus blogger so I could watch tonight turn out differenty, I know it will all be just as you have said. How do I know? Because it all makes absolute sense. I don’t need proof because there’s really no other explanation. I do think it’s possible that Jason changed his mind after the show was over and that’s why they taped the AFR1 early. Jason called ABC and said “I’m breaking up with Melissa.” They said “You can’t – we have a contract…unless…you do it on tape so we can air her heartbreak on national tv” I don’t know. I also believe he’s a big enough slime ball to have planned it all along and ABC is definitely corporate scum.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:23 PM
I posted this on Friday and it is still why I agree with RS’s conclusion about the clandestine contact between Jason and Molly during his engagement to Melissa.
“I agree with you about the Jason/Molly contact during the engagement, because I think insecure, selfish Jason would never have dumped Melissa if he did not know he had Molly in the bag. Yeah, like he’d get rid of Melissa knowing he didn’t have a backup for sure — I think not.”
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:23 PM
Great post RS thank you. I do believe at this point that the emails are important in determining the whole basis behind Jason’s behavior, but how can we be sure that he didn’t just say to Mel that ABC made him do it so he doesn’t have to face the consequences of his terrible actions? We won’t know, but at least if we see the emails we will be able to confirm that Mel did not play a role in ANY of this. We owe it to her to clear her good name in all our speculations. Besides, we are only a handful of people that will read them, not the entire viewing base. There is no privacy for them at this point regarding any part of this show. After the show is done being talked about, then they deserve privacy. JMO.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:24 PM
It was on the bachelor message boards. They even gave his name as Brian Jackson or Johnson can’t remember. They even said she went on the Bachelor to make him jealous and dump his wife for her.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:24 PM
Steve, your big day has arrived! Thanks for the final thoughts and maybe now we can all get back to reality… except what will I do at work when I am bored now?!? Enjoy- this must be better than your birthday!!
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:25 PM
Hey Reality Steve…..just found some info from jokers website someone found a new website http://www.jason’splace.com
Apparently this was just updated 01/20/2009 not a website someone looking for true love or someone who has found true love would have
Leslie
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:31 PM
Jason has travelled Europe extensively. i’d say he has done pretty well for himself. i have no reason to believe he can’t afford a nice country club if that is a priority.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:32 PM
#27 I read that the place that they film as “his place” wasn’t at all. It was to give it that whole Sleepless in Seattle feel by being on the water. But that is not is real home.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:33 PM
43 : HUH? All I got was some kind of business website. Was that a joke?
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:35 PM
43: AHHH got it. eh, good find. WTF is up with that?
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:37 PM
the guy flyonthewall said mel was dating her ex, did he ever say when they started dating?
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:37 PM
Thanks Steve. Again, great writing!! And, if Jason doesn’t know what he really wants by the final rose ceremony and changes his mind shortly thereafter, he will change his mind again. Give him a few months. I liked your analogy of a kid in a candy store. He was dazzled by all those “star gaz’n amaz’n” eyes, I suppose…and his own celebrity status. Maybe he was that nerd in high school that never got a date and now the lights, show and selection of women got to his head. And, I agree too..he could have broken up with Melissa behind the scenes. That would have been slightly more decent.The most decent thing would have been to choose the woman you really wanted from the beginning or choose neither. Proposal is a big step. Maybe Melissa has always dreamed about that “one special proposal” in her life and now Jason ruined that.
Thanks for another wonderful blog.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:38 PM
I had also heard she was with her ex.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:39 PM
If you go to jokers forum the bachelor you can read posts by lots of people the one I got this off of was about 10 down. The lady also says all this other info about Jason dating a single mother in between the bachorlerett and the bachelor and breaking up with her by telling her he was going on a business trip and this was before the world knew he was going to be the bachelor. Also I read on jokers tha someone looked up on his record and it showed that he had 2 altercations on his record and he was not divorced when he went on the bachorlerette
Leslie
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:39 PM
To be a “stand up” guy he should have broke up with Melissa behind the scenes and on ATFR 1 explain himself and tell Molly. Not humiliate Mel on TV , thats not right.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:40 PM
Steve,
This is supposed to be a reality show, which you have successfully called into question.
If they spin ittonight tht Jason just had a change of heart after spending time w/ Melissa after NZ, I don’t buy it (and your observations also indicate that was not the case).
I think to get to some resolution on all the unknowns, you should post those email(s). Just block out their email addresses and any contact info. If those email(s) indicate that ABC did pull Jason’s strings, the public should know.
I really believe that making them public will get ABC to make the Bachelor a true reality show in future, even if the results are that very few if any relationships survive past the show’s tapings. I hope Bob Iger gets on this, before the Bachelor brand is irrevocably damaged.
Many thanks for all your great insights and revelations.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:41 PM
#51 I heard rumors he wasn’t divorced yet. And I also heard that it was final only a couple months before he went on the Bachlorette. EIther way not enough time passed.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:42 PM
the link is http://www.jasonsplace.com, it is a joke if you ask me. WHY? you ask, because JASON IS NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT a single dad. Last time I checked his ex was ALIVE AND WELL. Hello doesn’t that mean two parents? He has help, Ty’s mother. OMG give me a freaking break. STEPHANIE, is a single mother. Get it Jason?
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:43 PM
http://www.jasonsplace.com/
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:44 PM
the houseboat on the show wasn’t his and supposedly he blogged that it wasn’t his. and if you watched Deanna’s season you would know it wasn’t where he brought her. that’s nothing new.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:44 PM
#55 thats not exactly true and I don’t agree. My parents divorced and both are alive and well. But they are single parents. They don’t have anyone else as an actual parent in the same household. They are running kids around paying the bills by themselves.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:46 PM
#54 You cannot base time on anyone’s love life. How do you know they weren’t separated, or not in love anymore for who knows how long. If he moved on, then there was enough time.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:48 PM
59: still tacky to do it soo soon.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:49 PM
Sorry – I’ve been busy – my grandkids are here.
So in other words, J sells securities (if he is an account manager for estate planning) – that’s something I know a lot about – I’m NOT rich! And, right now, my portfolio is in the toilet. I retired 5 years ago – I was making around 34000/yr. I didn’t have money – my clients did.
As for Molly’s ex – I heard he was the bar manager at her dad’s golf course – someone was going to check into it, but don’t know if they found out specifics, just that he verified the guy does work there. His name was Brian J – and he was/is married. Don’t know about the last name – just that it started with a J.
I think the e-mails are important to prove Mel’s innocence.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:49 PM
I think they are putting too much into his “single dad” syndrome especially since she is in the picture. All in all, he is not raising Ty alone. Stephanie is raising Sofia alone. Jason and Ex still decide what happens to their son, not just one of them. Who cares about day to day running, that is just life. Parenting in this case is done by both of them. There is nothing further to argue.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:51 PM
Jason Mesnick listed himself on that website http://www.jason’splace.com as a single parent on 01/20/2009 and the aftfr was taped 2 days before that hmmmmmmmmmmm!!!
Jason sucks!!
Howard Stern is going on an on about how much he loved the ending abc sent him a copy to watch and he liked it so much he wants jason on his show he has never wanted a bachelor on his show.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:52 PM
62 I agree 100%…but really “Meet our bachelor divorced Jason Mesnick who shares custody of his young son with his ex wife! You don’t want to miss this AMAZING season!” was really too much for the promos.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:52 PM
Stern is an ass and he needs another ass to make his show. LOL.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:53 PM
#64 LMAO
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:53 PM
I don’t think Molly knew what was going on at the final rose ceremony. I think she thought she “lost” and that was the end of it.
What I think happened on Jason’s side is he couldn’t make a decision. Told ABC, who told him he had to pick one (part of the contract I believe). Jason picked Melissa. Why? She seemed the best fit – I suspect we will see tonight she gets along with Ty better than Molly. And it isn’t like Jason isn’t hot for Melissa.
Why did he propose? Everyone forgets about the engagement ring – the ring purchased by the show (not Jason). He picked the safe pick (Melissa) and proposed with a free ring. Though I suspect ABC strongly encouraged Jason’s thinking in this. If the Melissa/Jason relationship works out then great – they’ll televise the wedding on tv. If it doesn’t work, then ok they have their next bachelorette already ready to go (Melissa).
However Jason was still conflicted about Molly, so ABC set up post rose ceremony dates with Molly. No way she takes him back after 2 months. And I think there is something in the bachelor contract forbidding him from seeing any of the past bachelorettes (save his final pick) for a certain span of time. Shame on Molly for agreeing to date an engaged man. I think ABC not only allowed but enabled Jason to cheat on his fiance.
While Jason breaks up with Melissa, and on national tv, no less, he did it at ABC’s urging. I suspect Melissa knew it was coming – either he had already broken up with her or he was sending enough signals that she saw it coming. ABC wants the breakup to be televised. ABC wants the drama – the emotional, so intense AFTR Chris has been saying for weeks.
So Jason breaks up with Melissa, but Melissa isn’t going to play ball with the Bachelor monsters anymore. She bails on becoming the next Bachelorette. Hence the callout for Jillan.
There’s my theory. At least until I think of something else (so many things swimming in the brain right now!).
Why did Jillian agree to become the next Bachelorette? I’m holding out hope that she is doing it for the right reason – to find her best friend and husband (the girl has the right idea when it comes to marriage by the way). I think Jillian believes she can take care of the Bachelor powers that be monsters. I’m not sure she can, but I’ll cross my fingers for her. Hopefully her lawyer looks over that contract with a fine tooth comb before she signs her name to it. And remember her and Melissa are good friends so it would not surprise me to learn Jillian is spinning some kind of way to get back at the ABC people and how they played Melissa. Not sure if that is possible either, but it is fun to consider.
Steve I’m all for you posting the emails – but with Melissa’s blessing. At this point it would not surprise me to learn she wants to drop the whole thing and wants nothing posted. I would probably feel the same way if I was her. However if she gives the ok, then I say post away. And for Jason – well do I really need to say it? He does not deserve the same respect. I’m sure ABC will be really thrilled with him when they read these emails.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:54 PM
As much as I would LOVE to see the emails btw Mel & J, I don’t think you should post them. It’s one thing to go on here and reveal the outcome of the show and speculate (which I’m glad you did and you gave fair warning to those who may not have wanted to know) but to release people’s private emails is another thing…I think Mel & J would be furious. and if you got Mel’s go ahead, fine,.. but I’m sure Jason would sue for something?? I’m certainly no legal expert but I’d be scared to do it.
Now I’m no Molly fan but something that has been bugging from what I’m reading on here: I don’t understand why people assume she has this expensive lifestyle, sure her parents have a nice house but it was likely them that bought her country club membership, OR she bought it herself and so she can afford to buy it in Seattle if that’s what she wants. If her parents were supporting her financially before, they likely will continue to or help out. I don’t understand why people would assume she would expect Jason to buy everything. .. and if they are in love, money shouldn’t matter. lol.. unless she IS a goldigger. But really, given all the crap they are going to be hearing for a while, I doubt their relationship will last through all the pressure anyways. I can see many more reasons why it wouldn’t work out for them other than money.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:54 PM
You don’t need Jason’s permission RS, just call Melissa…….on the email thing. LOL>
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:54 PM
The truth to all Molly bashers:
1. Molly has never had an affair with a married man. There is no one by the name of Brian at the golf club, she has not lived at home for 7 years. This is trash being spread by someone with a grudge or a hatred for Molly. This kind of thing will hurt the gossiper more than it will hurt Molly. We are praying for all of you that do this in the hopes that whatever prompts you to spread hatred, evil and gossip will subside and be replaced with good works.
2. Molly was not seeing Jason while he was engaged to Melissa, has not been to Hawaii, is not pregnant, and just laughs at all these rumors. You are not having an impact on her life whatsoever. Please try to focus your energy and time on something worthwhile.
3. Get a grip — the only way a reality tv show could affect your lives this much and make you spend this much time and energy trying to destroy someone, is if your own life is fiilled with strife.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:54 PM
Lets give Jason a “shocking” ending from all of us.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:55 PM
I was typing a comment at the end of Steve’s last blog,which most of you probably missed, because I didn’t realize Steve had posted this new one. I won’t repost it here, but it is near the end of the last one. I did forget to add this one thing to it– I was watching some old youtube videos this morning of Jesse and Deanna at the end of last season, ATFR, and The Bachelor show gave them a gift of a honeymoon to Greece, for their May 9, wedding date.
I wonder if they have to give back that trip to Greece, since they broke up? Anyway, as I said in my comment in the last blog, I am sure gonna miss all your comments. Thanks, Steve, for this latest info. I agree with you, that Jason was like a “kid in a candy store.” I had been thinking that exact phrase myself!
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:55 PM
I agree – I heard there had been “incidents” – don’t know what they were – but that his divorce wasn’t even final when he was proposing to Deanna. I don’t know if that’s true – but his div was Feb 2008 – so when was the FRC recorded with De? I didn’t care enough to look it up.
As for the way he passed himself off as a single parent who’s ex-wife ran off and never came back yada..yada..yada – this year, his ex is an amazing mom who he shares custody of his son with, and who he’d never move away from Seattle because he would never leave his son or take him from his mom. Who has physical custody??? I’m guessing it might be 50/50? Because if he had custody, and he moved from Seattle, he wouldn’t be leaving his son – he WOULD be taking his son from his mom. Anyway – after all the back-and-forth comments, off-the-cuff comments, I figure there’s way more to this story than meets the eye. However, the one GOOD thing about J is that he seems to get along with his ex which is a good thing for Ty. That his only redeeming quality in my eyes. JMO guys – I can accept if I’m wrong!!!
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:58 PM
wtf !!!! #70 who the **** are you Like we really believe you are somebody who knows
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:58 PM
Oops – sorry for my long post. Didn’t realize I was that wordy!
Ok carry on.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:58 PM
70: If we aren’t affecting her…why are you defending her? That would be a PINK ELEPHANT! gawd, IN THE WORDS OF J himself “If I didn’t say it that can’t use it” and for MOL IF SHE DIDN”T DO IT/SAY IT WE COULDN’T COMMENT ON IT! She chose to be in the public eye with a less than stellar reputation. That was her fault not ours.
March 2nd, 2009 at 2:59 PM
does anyone have a newer link for Steve’s interview; the link he gives only gets me to the start of his college, etc., then cuts off. What am I missing with the link?
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:00 PM
73: You are right the one redeeming factor is that he SEEMS to get along with the ex-wife. Wonder if she will use the bachette/bach to get full custody? Would be tacky but might be able to make a case.
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:02 PM
#70 Reminds me of Pinkgirl and being in the “know” with someone. I’m not saying that you’re lying, but again all these people are making up stuff about a married man? Rumors start out of truths somewhere. And even people on this very blog have confirmed some of these to be true.
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:02 PM
#77 – I don’t think the Hair Boutique interview is working properly. First of all the story date is wrong then the interview is cut off. Maybe RS can get them to fix it….
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:02 PM
#70 is GAY, My life is awesome for the most part, this is just fun. I like to have fun. Obviously your words are full of strife so your life is the bad one, if you speak illy, then you feel the same. Sad for you though, maybe go on the Bachelor/ette and feel better…!
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:03 PM
Why not post the emails?
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:04 PM
Sharon – I am sorry that you are getting crap on here. I have read all of your posts and I don’t think that you said anything like others did. You just asked questions, and stated yourself like so many others on here, but in no way shape of form were you rude and vulger as many others were.
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:04 PM
78 – Good point – guess it depends on whether her life has settled down to that point where she would want to get full custody.
As for truthteller (70) – I’m going to assume you ARE Molly. The truth hurts, huh? A leopard can’t change his spots.
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:04 PM
#70 — That was quite the chest-thumping!!! Guess you told us huh?
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:05 PM
#84 LMAO
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:05 PM
Thanks Steve. Great Blog as usual and like everyone else, I’d love to see the emails. Jason & ABC need to be exposed! They made their beds, then need to LIE in them.
I have a minor change to Steve’s theory about Molly’s contact with Jason. Jason’s such a weak guy that I think he secretly arranged a meeting with Molly before she left NZ at ABC’s consent. The control everything, so this would have been easy to do without Mel finding out. This would have happened after Molly was runner up and had her limo ride, but before she flew back home, that way ABC gets good camera. Jason would have had to know where she stood before she left because otherwise how does he deal with Mel over the next 2 months? He’s so weak he might have changed his mind and told the producer’s it Mel now. What do you all think and when/how do you think Jason made contact with Molly? After not chosing her on National TV, he’d be really not welcome there I’d think….
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:06 PM
85 – lol
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:09 PM
Owl – I’d lay bets on the fact that J and Mol were seeing each other the entire time. Maybe I’m jaded. That’s jmo. It’s not a good way to start a marriage – based on lies and deceit. Molly was in it to win – not to find a lifetime mate. It was all about the win. I think Mel was very niave – really thought she was going to find her husband. We know that TB has never worked for any Bachs – and TB’ette only worked once.
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:09 PM
when I opened the RS interview link, I get a couple paras and then the text is cut off…..Is this the way the page opens for others?…or is it just a security setting on my computer.
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:10 PM
Access Hollywood’s source stated that there was a plan and Jason agreed “hook, line and sinker.”
The taping was “closed” so that they could do as many takes as they needed to make it believable. Molly has a theater background and is sounds like another midwest girl who thinks she might have a shot in entertainment.
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:11 PM
Wow, what kind of Kool-Aid are they serving over at the ABC boards? It’s amazing the number of folks there who still buy into this as the Love Story of the Century. They seem to think Melissa is still engaged to Jason and that the drama had to do with the nonappearance of her parents – which will be remedied at the ATFR 2 when they come out and embrace their new son-in-law-to-be.
Tomorrow when all is said and done, they’ll still be holding out for an ATFR 3 with Melissa as the blushing bride. Let go, folks, it was all a sham.
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:12 PM
I have to get out of here – my grandkids are here – cookies in the oven – and finger paints on the table … and floor … and kids. What a mess. I’ll be back later – just a few hours and this will be over. Hope everyone will continue to post here – it will be like a grief support group!
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:13 PM
I want to hear what you all think about Jillian as the next Bachelorette – I think she’s cute and nice and everything but I am TIRED of them taking rejected people from each season and moving them on again. I’m ready for some new sucker to come on this show . . .
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:16 PM
#74- We don’t know who knows!
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:16 PM
Yeah like my best friend. But she said NO. #94.
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:17 PM
#89-who knew
That’s very possible and no its not a good way to start any kind of relationship. There’s also an element of hypocracy in all this. DeAnna gets dumped on National TV, so she Dumps Jason on National TV after his bends his knee, who Dumps Molly (fake) but on National TV and Melissa (real) on National TV and reconnects with Molly, once again on National TV. Gee is your head spinning too? The only thing anyone can do in private is tent and fantasy suite! Throw DeAnna into this mix and it a damx soap opera!
I also agree Molly was in it to win too not find a husband and certainly not to become a step mom. Ty has somehow been lost in all of this while his dad’s been catting around like a “kid in a candy store.” Geez that line is so apropos! Its no wonder that Bachelor never has any successful couples.
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:18 PM
At least tonight there are first run shows on other networks for an alternative–24 being a good one. Since the sweeps period was shifted this year due to the digital conversion, TB has been up agains old reruns, so hopefully tonight will take a chunk out of their ratings.
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:19 PM
Thanks #90; must be the site then; I see other folks commenting too.
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:20 PM
BruceLee- Is GAY an acronym? I’m not totallly up to speed on all blog shortcuts.
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:21 PM
Hey NeedmyLifeBack –
Are you going to be posting tonight on breaks? You’re up in the Maritimes so you’re an hour ahead of me here in Virginia. I remember having satellite when I lived in N.S., and the programming times varied, so maybe you don’t get it on the US stations until east coast?
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:22 PM
94. I’m not liking Jillian as the next Bachelorette. I like her a lot (she and Stephanie were my favorite Bachelorettes), but I don’t trust the Bachelor people to not play her. I think she is smarter and stronger than Jason, but they’ve been playing this game longer. They will find a way to play her too. I won’t be watching. This is my first and last season of watching a Bachelor / Bachelorette season. I picked a doozy for a first season though didn’t I?!
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:26 PM
Who is Ruher? I am so GAY that I cannot control my urge to just come find you and make wild love with you. OMG get a grip, I said you were GAY in the way you were acting, not your sexual preference, besides if i was GAY the proper word would be Lesbian…..!!!!!
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:27 PM
Besides I never said a word to you or about you, so why harrass me?
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:28 PM
Anyhow back to the real conversations, I think RS needs to really consider those emails. That will seal the deal for a lot of us.
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:30 PM
virginiabeach
I will be watching the show at 9 atlantic standard time but unfortunately I’ll be watching it at a friend’s house so I’m not sure I can type during commercials. If she has her laptop around I might ask. I think during past episodes, other people did it on this blog at an earlier time for those on the east coast.
Anyone else out there in Atlantnic Standard time that can post during the show?
oh, and Virginia beach, got your emails and gmail thing but I haven’t had time to do anything else with it. Have a new kitty at home and have been concentrating on that, and i’m at work all day reading this and not much else. lol.
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:31 PM
I’ve been following all this TB drama for weeks now (much to my inner shame). I’ve got a friend who has been off on business near Seattle for the past few weeks, so she hadn’t really had the time to see/hear any of what’s going down. Well, I called her last week to fill in her and she just called me today saying one of clients she’s working with out there went out to dinner and they started discussing this fiasco. Basically, my friend made some sort of comment bashing Jason’s character, to which the client replied “It’s a little bit more complicated than that.” Although the client did not get too elaborate, she intimated that, yes, Jason was given a hefty sum to pull the ltitle stunt that he did. BUT, the ABC producers used Ty fuel, hinting that this money could possibly be put toward a college fund, etc. Although I do not know if the client was telling the truth or not, my friend tells me she’s an older woman, so she really would have no reason to make this stuff up. Although I still think Jason’s a skeeze for doing what he did, it makes his actions maybe a fraction of bit less deplorable, knowing they used Ty as bait.
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:32 PM
I just posted a long comment and it won’t show up!
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:33 PM
BruceLee- Just didn’t know whether to be offended or not! SORRRRRY!
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:33 PM
It’s there.
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:33 PM
#106-need mylifeback – I’m looking forward to figuring out facebook and seeing your kitty!
By the way – down here in non-sunny, non-warm Virginia Beach – it is snowing today – yuck! just came in and altho it’s only about 31F, real feel is 17F and it’s nasty out there; not a lot of snow on my side of V.B., nearer the coast side, but they have plows out in the western areas; and Williamsburg has a ton of snow over there.
I have a little dinky snow shovel that I used to carry in my car in N.S. with a collapsible handle (you know the kind you see in the grocery!) but I’m definitely hoping not to need it for anything other than hanging on my garage wall.
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:34 PM
NO I would never offend anyone unless they did it to me first…LOL. Sorry about that Ruher.
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:35 PM
Virginiabeach
rain rain and more rain here.
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:35 PM
Sunny and 17 degrees here.
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:37 PM
LOL BruceLee!!! People are too uptight. So, I’ve been gone f/the boards all weekend, Pinkgirl never showed back up huh?
And #70, if she doesn’t care, why are you even bothering?
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:38 PM
NeedMyLifeBack
We had tons of rain all day yesterday and all night; it turned to snow very early this mmorning when the temps “plunged” from about 40F to 32F = I realize where you are that’s probably a heatwave right now ; my friends in Montana – way up in northern MT near the Can. border; laugh at me when I tell them our temps; they on the minusF scale.
Actually I have so much rain clogging my backyard it has lakes in it, which have now skimmed over with ice; charming for the south. The poor birds are so confused – we get a lot of the northern birds wintering down here and my feeders are jammed.
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:38 PM
Steve posted his interview
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:42 PM
BruceLee-where are you located? 17 and sunny sounds chilly, but nice.
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:43 PM
Can someone tell me the website address for that Jokers blog?
Thanks
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:43 PM
Dixiebelle it seems as though PinkGirl has not shown back up. She is walking with her tail between her legs……Ha ha.
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:44 PM
Western New York in the Snow Belt…..!!!!
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:44 PM
Brucelee is likely on the new thread now under the interview he just posted. LOL. but I knew you meant where is he in the US.
Virginiabeach, let me know when you are facebook and I can look you up. Or did you tell me you are already on there?
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:44 PM
abc.com has a new preview up.
we see jason in tears, everyone looking sad
and a kiss between deanna and jason.
probably an old shot.
http://abc.go.com/primetime/bachelor/index?pn=index
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:45 PM
deanna kisss is at 0:15
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:45 PM
jokersupdates dot com
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:46 PM
So….Molly has dated a “married” guy { behind his wife’s back }who worked at her Dad’s counrty club and now has been dating an “engaged” guy{ behind his fiancee’s back} WHOA….now there is a class act who is USED to sloppy seconds! No morals and questionable character……oh yeah, she’ll make a GREAT step-mother for Ty! Jason…..a man with impecible taste! They both make me want to visit the vomitorium!!
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:48 PM
Pinkgirl did show up yesterday and she said she would be back tomorrow or Wed to explain. Not sure what to explain after the fact, but we will see.
116. Virginiabeachcheckingin: the birds send many thanks for the foods!!
March 2nd, 2009 at 3:58 PM
Thank you RS for all of your inside info this season. I have enjoyed your columns and believe your theory on the finale. What I find offensive is the rude comments made by posters here regarding Molly and he personal life and her character. We do not know these people and to form opinons like the ones expressed are rather alarming. She could be a lovely girl with great morals. We only see what ABC has allowed us to see. We have no idea if something was “off” on Melissa’s side. I do believe she knew the break up was coming and it could be that she had something to do with this. I do believe it is very short sighted for us to place blame and accuse when we all know so little. There could be many reasons why the break up with Melissa was needed. There are just as many reasons why the romance with Molly and the reconnection happened. So little of Molly is known yet I am repulsed with the sloppy seconds comments ect…… It’s a reality show and they only show what they want, and what makes shocking TV. Be a liitle kinder to the ones you do not know!!!!
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:03 PM
So I can’t believe March 2nd is finally here. I almost don’t know what to do with myself. I do know, however, that I will be spending 3 hours of time I could be using to study and/or write a paper to watch this damn show.
All I’m saying is it better be good…but I don’t consider the circumstances Melissa got herself put into ‘good.’
I can’t wait to see what everyone says about that show tonight!
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:06 PM
Have read on several sites (inc. ABC) that Molly was “seeing” a Brian Jackson, married, bar tender/manager at her father’s country club, for at least 3 years — This was verified more than once by some of her friends & associates & apparently they really didn’t try to hide it too much — that would certainly explain why her parents did not approve or accept her previous “boyfriend” so I do tend to believe this is true — Also, I read that Jason has an “open” court case from 07/30/07 in King County District Court (this is an item of Public Record so I am not violating his privacy) He appears as the Defendant & the case is still pending — this case is not related to his divorce which was finalized on 02/22/08 & filed in Olympia early in March of ‘08 — All in all neither one of them has a pristine background so I guess they deserve each other!!! Poor Ty — he’ll probably grow up to be just like his father — just what this world needs!
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:09 PM
SO WHAT #130 He who is without sin cast the first stone!!!!!!!!
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:09 PM
Kudos to Debbie 33056
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:13 PM
130.2grey…I agree 100% There ARE facts out there that have been verified……sorry 128-Debbie/truthteller…or whoever you are.
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:21 PM
70. truthteller | March 2nd, 2009 at 2:54 pm
The truth to all Molly bashers:
1. Molly has never had an affair with a married man. There is no one by the name of Brian at the golf club, she has not lived at home for 7 years. This is trash being spread by someone with a grudge or a hatred for Molly. This kind of thing will hurt the gossiper more than it will hurt Molly.
How will this hurt the gossiper? And if Molly sits there and goes with Jason 2 seconds after he dumps Melissa on Tv, well, she isnt that great of a person..
2. Molly was not seeing Jason while he was engaged to Melissa, has not been to Hawaii, is not pregnant, and just laughs at all these rumors. You are not having an impact on her life whatsoever. Please try to focus your energy and time on something worthwhile.
If it isnt having an impact on her life, than why are you here typing this? Obviouslly it is to some degree. Still, see rebutal above.. She wasnt seeing him or talking to him, yeah right!
3. Get a grip — the only way a reality tv show could affect your lives this much and make you spend this much time and energy trying to destroy someone, is if your own life is fiilled with strife.
How are we trying to destroy her? Again, what woman would date someone after not seeing them for a couple months, knowing they just dumped someone on tv 2 seconds ago? After this airs tomorow, whoa, she is going to really feel the backlash..
And actually my life is very blissful and this is fun… She put herself on TV, took the idiot back, she deserves what she gets.. No one is going to be saying, Oh poor Molly, sorry.
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:22 PM
I don’t follow. Your whole theory was based on the fact that the ending was scripted from the beginning. I even found Chris Harrison comments to the media back on December 15, 2008 about this season having “an incredible finish”. How could it be an incredible finish in December when Jason was supposedly with Melissa, telling everyone he was engaged? How could it be an incredible finish back then when ATFR1 hadn’t been done?
But now, you come out as saying that Jason has issues; that he probably hasn’t been dating much; that he’s confused, insecure, changes his mind all the time. Am I missing something? Are you backing off?
Either it was all scripted from the beginning or it wasn’t. Either Jason’s choices were manipulated by the production or he was in on it. I was hoping you would come out with more theories and clues that would indicate that all three of them- Molly, Melissa and Jason – were aware of the ending from way back and acted appropriately. After all, aren’t these people’s intentions to make it to Hollywood?
At any rate, congratulations on a great job so far.
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:23 PM
Aimee-THANK YOU!
I just watched the prview for this evenings show and even though I feel it was genuinely a change of heart I feel Jason’s demeanor (which I previously loved) in all his interviews is a bit, I don’t know what to call it, unsettling? I used to think the way he came off in interviews he was sweet and seemed so happy but now that I know it turns out like this I am a bit insulted that he seemed so gloating when he indeed broke someone’s heart and knew it.
That and agreeing to hurt anyone on National TV for any amount of money is quite telling to his true character, college fund or not, have some compassion and pay for your only son’s college respectfully.
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:27 PM
#131 — I’m certainly NOT without sin but I’m also NOT OUT THERE on a national TV show telling the world how “truthful, honest” etc. etc. etc. I am — Jason (or ABC) certainly paints a wonderful portrait of himself !
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:28 PM
Hey guys, I got the new issue of US in the mail today… gossip is fun when it doesn’t involve you….
Anyway in the 2page article they go over everything that RS has said. And what to expect. They have Jason’s occupation as “an account executive at an estate-planning company”
In the article it claims a “source” says that Molly and him are now engaged.
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:29 PM
Sharon – please don’t apologize now!
You were the only one hanging in there with me. Seriously, I’ll be the first to admit I have flip flopped. I believed all along jill would come back, then, the more time i spent on here the more i thought I started to jason in a different light (negative) and ultimately I have gone back to thinking he is bringing someone back – Stephanie. And let me tell ya we are battling it out at work too! 
For some reason I just keep going back to the rose he didn’t give out and that it will come in to play. There is a reason he didn’t give it out that night. I am not bashing Steve, do not think that. I love him, love reading his blogs, and believe he is reporting the information he is being given. In the end, we will all find out tonight – finally! This has been the longest 2 weeks of my life! Nevertheless, I have enjoyed the discussion on this board (after RS had to resort to everyone signing in, which I was wondering what took him so long).
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:29 PM
I have so enjoyed following the postings the last few weeks. The laughs have been many! It has certainly been a learning experience for me reading people’s reactions to the show and to each other. A learning experience on many levels, and one of which is how to voice our beliefs to each other and how to become a better person in our relationships at the same time.
There are a number of people who have cautionned us not to judge prematurely and I think this is such good advice as we would want others to also give us the benefit of the doubt when we have behaved in ways that are questionnable to others. We still have not heard the final outcome in this show.
As for Molly, I really do not think we know for sure about “an affair with a married man.” It seems to be a rumor that just took off and keeps being repeated. Even if true, it is not true that once a cheater, always a cheater. People can and do change, especially if they are young.
As for Melissa, if she was blindsided by ABC, as painful as this public humiliation is, then this may end up being the best thing that ever happened to her. This could be the wake up call to start taking responsibility for herself and to avoid being the “victim” and “dumpee” in her relationships.
There was an interview on the internet quoted earlier on one of RS posts. I think it was with someone who has worked on the Bach/Ette shows. One thing that really stood out in my mind from this interview was they said that all the people who choose to be on these reality shows have a motivation for doing so, that they each have something they want to “leverage” from being on the show. All these people deliberately chose the public exposure hoping to gain something in return and for most I doubt that it was to meet their lifelong partner.
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:31 PM
It also goes on to say from its source, that it was all planned by ABC. “The swap was a ratings ploy to generate buzz and viewership for the franchise.” “ratings dropped to 7 mill viewers in 05 when it was up to 17 mill in 2002.”
The producers needed “something new to keep it fresh with only one wedding coming from any of the seasons”
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:33 PM
Hey, #70. truthteller
Does Molly get a big giggle out of Melissa’s pain too?
Glad she’s getting a kick out another persons loss
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:34 PM
come to the darkside Sharon.
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:34 PM
NEW POST is it possible to move to it?
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:34 PM
Sorry I’m typing as I’m reading….
This source says that Mel flew back and forth to Seattle every other weekend from November, when production ended until January and the taping of ATFR 1 when he dumped her.
On the other or “off” weekends producers flew Molly up to see Jason.
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:40 PM
Steve, please post the e-mails. I can’t believe people out there still entertain the fact that this wasn’t all planned. Can’t wait for the finale tonight and Chris’ blog post tomorrow.
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:46 PM
128-Debbie/truthteller-70 Read#145….I am speaking for myself and THAT is what I believe…what Steph is reading!
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:47 PM
Jason’s Place — GAG!!!!
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:53 PM
136: J is a philanthropist (according to ABC) but can’t afford to send his kid to college?
AND A RANT (KINDA)
For those of you that tell us not to judge…wtf did you expect to happen to these people that CHOSE to go on national tv. They chose to expose their lives to scrutinized. THEY chose to be judged. And here are some things we do KNOW
Molly is the only bette’ that I have heard of having an affair with a married man FOR 3 years. There have been hundreds of ba’ettes and she is the only one that has sooooooo many people that are holding a grudge against her that this rumor has been repeated by mutiple 1st person accounts?
Jason lives with his brother. Was barely (if at all) divorced before he began the Ba’ette. Then when on the Bach and was a horndog. Practically begs jill to tell him she loves him, and then dumps her. (OH YEAH and remember the hot tub scene with this FRIEND!) THEN DUMPS HIS FIANCE ON NATIONAL TV. THAT WOULD BE THE DEFINITION OF A CLASSLESSASS.
Melissa was on two seasons of Dallas Cheerleading. A show that does STRICT BACKGROUND CHECKS! They even made her cover up her tattoo. If she had something to hide it would have come out during ONE of those seasons of THAT reality show…or one would think.
Seriously, stop with the whining people if you don’t want us to judge whoever it is you are related to/ friends with/ w/e your relationship is, then you should have advised them to NOT OPEN THEIR LIVES TO THE PUBLIC. You can’t invite all the guest in and then decide your house is messy so they gotta leave.
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:56 PM
149-tooonice……AMEN sista!! High 5
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:58 PM
#107 IheartMaddy
If its true that ABC used Ty to trap Jason, that is lower than snake’s belly. Like you said, it doesn’t excuse Jason to cause pain to another for his son’s gain, but it does show you how important and critical ratings are to ABC….and once again confirms RS suspicions and theory.
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:58 PM
DOOFOOFOO I believe all that, my point is we don’t know why this happened. Maybe Melissa knew about this, maybe something Melissa said or did caused the rekindeled realtionship with Molly. My point is WE DO NO HAVE THE FACTS!!! We just have here are alot of name callers who think they have all the answers and want to judge !
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:58 PM
149 Toonice LOL!!! You are way too funny! Maybe it is time for a name change.
March 2nd, 2009 at 4:59 PM
150: thanks. I know I MY house is messy…which is why I keep my life private.
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:01 PM
I’m in Atl time zone & can post during breaks, but I think I watch it at the same time as folks in EST. It starts at 9 here (8 EST). I watch it on the ABC Boston station.
Needbmylifeback – where do you live? I’m in Darmouth.
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:02 PM
#149 Lets hear some gossip from your life. Do you have any x’s out there who can fill us in. Any tickets, ourstanding warrents, any DUI’s come on……. no one is perfect. The ones like you who are so willing and want to judge are usually the worst affenders. Judge on….
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:02 PM
DARTMOUTH. stupid typos.
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:05 PM
156: Lets see a speeding ticket vs. helping a man cheat on his wife for three years?
and once again, I have never claimed to be perfect. In fact I know i am not perfect. Which is why I have chosen to NOT GO ON NATIONAL TV!
WTF did these people think was going to happen? You opened the door and said come on in folks when you chose to go onto TV.
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:05 PM
Can’t wait to see tonight’s shows. Thanks for making this season so much fun, Steve! I’m going to miss your blog. Maybe you should do an American Idol one.
As for the emails, I think you made the right decision not to make them public. Is there any way you could get in touch with Melissa and ask her if she’d be comfortable with it? (you obviously have her email address lol) I am not sure I’d want my private emails all over the internet no matter what they proved.
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:06 PM
149-toonice – Could not have said it any better!!! — Any of these reality shows have one thing in common — people (& sometimes their entire families) going on national TV to be seen by millions of other people — And of course, for the networks, the more “interesting” or downright scandalous their lives are the better for business (and for sure their commercial value) Nobody is twisting anyone’s are to “sign up” for these shows so — If you don’t want your dirty laundry aired in public stay off of national TV shows!!!
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:07 PM
Tell us how you really feel toonice!! LOL
Melissa’s myspace says “sassy”. I’m GLAD to see that. Hope she is doing well.
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:09 PM
161: thanks! I try to be kind but some people just get under my skin…gawd. A
And I agree I hope Melissa is feeling sassy. LOL I bet she is the one who laughs last after all this is over.
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:12 PM
I’m ready for tonight and have a new kleenex box ready to go. I’ll be ready and know what’ll happen, but I think it’s still going to get me! Thanks Steve for your info.
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:13 PM
Wow! It’s like Springer on here. I love it.
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:13 PM
I’m PMSing, I need a good cry, but I certainly don’t want it to be at Melissa’s expense.
Ughhhh
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:18 PM
For the record #149-Judging is a choice any way you want to cut it. Of course they are on TV and that opens them up to more judgment but the judging part is purely optional and one doesn’t have to automatically go hand and hand with the other.
Just sayin’
roroannie-Do you have cookies? LOL
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:19 PM
Tooonice = ToooMEAN
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:22 PM
actually the tooonice is is reference to the way the ba’ettes have behaved towards each other this season. Seriously no real drama at all (which is what one would expect from 25 women going after the same woman)
And secondly, I have not resorted to attacking you directly soo why are you doing that to me debbie…seems to me like you are the one judging here.
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:24 PM
RS’ theory still does not explain Mel’s meltdown on the GH taping where she CLEARLY says, “it wasn’t supposed to happen this way”. Any ideas out there what she meant, and how that statement works into this ending?
RE: Jasonsplace.com was created by someone in Connecticut–
Domain created on 06-May-2004
Domain expires on 06-May-2010
Last updated on 24-Feb-2009
That means the registrant purchased a six year license for the domain “name” only. Someone–or the creator–could be getting some extra mileage off it now since 2004 was “pre-JM”. No one here knows what it was originally designed or intended for.
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:24 PM
Dang, I thought we had all moved over to the newest post….
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:26 PM
139. canusaybrainwash–I’m standing on the line with you.
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:26 PM
No just a big plate of judgement.
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:27 PM
The thing that is great about all of this is I will have a more realistic view of this show (no high expectations) and I get to go on with my wonderful life with my head held high in the end regardless of how Jason and Molly’s lives turn out. I wish them the best, if they deserve the best is up for debate, although I don’t agree with how this was handled, I will let karma control their happy ending, or lack thereof.
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:27 PM
lol 170 I am posting in both (kinda)
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:30 PM
canusaybrainwash -You really think there is another ending to this?
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:30 PM
#19 whoknew
She would probably have an easier time getting a job in Seattle than other places. Seattle (Washington) hasn’t experienced the same economic the rest of the country has. There are many jobs there. They didn’t particapate in the housing boom like other states. They had a news item regarding this a week or two ago in the news.
But…even if he didn’t have a lot of money, I imagine he does now. I would think they would pay him well to pull off this scam.
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:31 PM
Well said Sharon. Again, my heart goes out to Melissa. I certainly don’t want to believe they did her like that, but it seems all too real.
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:32 PM
Re: 169. grewmeAname | March 2nd, 2009 at 5:24 pm
“RS’ theory still does not explain Mel’s meltdown on the GH taping where she CLEARLY says, “it wasn’t supposed to happen this way”. Any ideas out there what she meant, …”
Mel’s dad told her not to cry on the show, too.
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:32 PM
I cant wait for tonight, but neither for your tomorrow’s column!! I’ll see the next Bachelorette ‘only to read your column haha!
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:33 PM
Not judging..Toonice = Tomean. Someone who attacks another person for having a “supposed” affair with a married man for three years is mean. Unless you are the person she had the affair with or the wife why would you say something that may not be true. To hurt?
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:34 PM
ok, it looks as tho a lot are posting here, and a bunch more are posting on the RS posting that came after this one? Confusing as to which one to go to
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:35 PM
someone posted this on facebook:
Unbelievably, They asked Jason to be the Bachelor the minute he was dumped by Deanna but he had to agree to a set-up. Jason was told THAT DAY that he would have to propose to the real runner up – the girl he didn’t want to choose – and then break-up with her on the Final Rose and choose the girl he didn’t propose to on the show. He agreed to this! He picks the girl he doesn’t want- she has no idea – the producers fly her to Seattle every other weekend and then fly the other girl to him that he didn’t choose on the off weekends. So he’s cheating on the girl he proposed to who has no idea this is happening – the other girl was contacted about this by the producers after the finale.So on the final rose after the finale, he tells the girl who he proposed to that he has had a change of heart and calls off the engagement. He then picks the other girl and on the Final Rose 2 – the night after – he and the other girl announce their engagement. I thought he was a really nice guy and now I am disgusted. The only real part about this show was that he got to pick the two girls. So when you see the proposal, it’s fake – when you see him break the other girls heart – it’s fake. When you see the final rose – it’s BS that he had a change of heart – it was planned and he has been seeing her every other week and the real girl has no idea! Remember, he agreed to do this when he was chosen- the day Deanna dumped him. So our sweet gorgeous bachelor is an asshole and agreed to the set up with the producers to get the show better ratings. I know the girls but I won’t spoil unless you want to know. If you want to know more just leave a comment on this note! He tricked the hell out of all of us who thought he was the sweetest, hottest guy ever – he’s actually a complete asshole. I was tricked – this is so cruel and remember the girl he did propose to has no idea this is going to happen. Unbelievable – worse than Brad – who I actually thought did the right thing by not choosing either girl because he didn’t think either girl would work out. I love the show and can’t wait to see this bullshit unfold but I will never ever watch it again – it’s hurtful and set-up for ratings from the beginning of the choice!
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:35 PM
who am I hurting? IF the rumor is true than she is what she is.
If it isn’t than I look like bad…not hurt. So I don’t get your point?
And by calling me tomean, you are judging. And quite rudely too.
Whats your point? To hurt?
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:37 PM
175 – yes, absolutely. And if i’m wrong I will come back on here (well i will either way) to hear the “I told you so’” but I think he brings someone from the past. I know I am in the minority on this but if you have never heard anything that RS said, what conclusion would you find on your own? Again, there is the extra rose. There is Deanna who comes back and I think to tell him it’s not too late to change him mind. The next B-ette had not been formally announced so you can’t assume it’s her. I think Melissa is an actress looking for fame. This is the 2nd reality show she’s been on, I’m sorry but I don’t feel sorry for her. I know she was already on the cowboys show before they started filming it but in dallas there is a lot of “other” fame that comes out of being a cheerleader….calendars, photos ops, etc. I think everyone is missing the forest for the trees. I totally believe what RS says and believe this is what he was told. I don’t think he is making it up. But, the last several shows have been snooze fests and they needed some hype this time around.
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:37 PM
155 CanadaFan
I’m in Halifax (Clayton Park) cool to know someone from my city is on here! it would be great if you can post for people, although as you said, likely the same time as most. I’m gonna be at a friend’s house and don’t want to ignore her during commercial breaks.
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:38 PM
182: isn’t that was RS said (well pretty much anyways) who posted that? (not names but relationship to the bach wise?)
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:41 PM
184-I just never saw his connection at all with Stephanie other than his respect for her from what she has been through and the connection they shared merely because of the children. Other than that I never saw a true physical attraction, but if you are still holding out hope the I wont get in your way.
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:44 PM
184
How can we help you get past this? I’m not being mean. I just see terrible heartbreak in your future.
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:45 PM
Actually the one I would have chosen for him is Jillian, not steph. But, I think the extra rose may be for her daughter? Also, and I keep bringing this up but I can’t let it go…he was in nashville in jan. Anyway, that’s just my thought. No matter what I think happens I still hope that somehow it’s jill. maybe that’s wishful thinking. I guess I don’t want it to turn out the way RS has theorized because I am still hoping for the best. I just don’t see Jason as a bad guy….yet. Could be totally off here though. But, while I think it could be steph, I swear it looks like the girl he is proposing to is Jillian. So many theories…so little time…lol
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:46 PM
188 – i know, i know. A girl can hope for a happing ending though, right? LIke I said, I guess I’m still one of the few holding out hope that this isn’t all a scam.
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:46 PM
182 – Is all of this true?
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:46 PM
#187 I agree Sharon, I think he really respected Stephanie for everything that she has gone through and the love she has for her child. He was probably right in saying he had a great friendship for her. I wanted her to be MY friend! LOL
I think Stephanie brought alot of maturity and the girls really looked to her. She was never a part of the drama or the cattyness. I’m sure alot has to do with losing her husband.
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:47 PM
189- Well we will just have to wait and see tonight but I am anticipating sitting there with my glass of wine as the show goes on and saying to myself (well to whomoever is in the room), and please excuse my french, HOLY SHIT RS WAS RIGHT!
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:48 PM
192-Exactly, I just think that her outlook on life is way different than most considering she has truly learned how to count her blessings.
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:50 PM
Sharon
you have to take a drink every time Jason says AMAZING
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:50 PM
um, anyone else notice the other comments section and post by STeve is gone? the one where he posted his interview? can’t get back to it.
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:52 PM
yep….GONE!
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:52 PM
196 I was just trying to do that too…and CAN’T
Wonder what is going on?
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:52 PM
I didn’t see any physical connection between Steph and Jason either. I don’t think felt it either as she wasn’t surprised when she went home. She’s a really classy woman and I wish her the best.
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:53 PM
He took it down because the link was working, I believe. Sharon, if you have to drink everytime he says amazing you’ll be feeling no pain by the time it’s over. Add in Melissa’s amazings too.
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:55 PM
I believe it was planned- but I am not sure about what can be construed as “the beginning” did Molly have jason at “hello”? i am not 100% convinced that therw was a puppet master at work that was manipulating the whole show right from the get-go. I think he probably was genuinely conflicted and the producers pushed him to make a choice. He may have felt really pressured and rushed and then it was not to long afterwards that buyers remorse set in. At which point TPTB told him they would help him out and let him see Molly to set his mind at ease, so that he could be “sure” . Then I believe it escalated from there- and once it was clear that there was no way that they were going to have the ending they thought- and that they had planned for , then things changed. Remember, the initial buzz was that “it was the most romantic” , “the crew was really rooting for the couple” and even the holy grail was invoked : “Not since Trista and Ryan’s season” They tried to sell the happy ending fairy tale, and things were looking pretty good. Ratings were pretty decent, and the franchise appeared to be on track again…
So things changed and then TPTB ran with it. These folks are not stupid and have been editing these shows since forever. Probably got a few lucky breaks in the editing room :”I am always the dumpee” and “what if you change your mind?” are pretty glaring examples.
And dumping her on national TV? Lots of folks have suggested that the risk of getting dumped on TV is a pretty well known risk of going on the show, and that perhaps our sympathy for Melissa, while well meaning, is a bit overblown. I think there is a difference and being proposed to on bended knee with a squillion dollar ring, only to be dumped publicly (as the audience sees it) the next day so that he can pursue the number 2 girl. Not cool, Jason. Andf those emails are real (and they probably are) Jason got one thing right: He should not have listed to the producers. Yeah Jason, ya think?
As for Molly: This does not endear you to anyone except the 6 fans you have over on FORT. If you DID see Jason while he was (at least officially) engaged to Melissa, well you are have poor judgement at best and at worst you are a skank. If you did not see him, that is another issue- whay would you agree to date someone that had chosen someone else over you? DO you think so little of yourself? I don’t have any idea of what J said to convice you- but it must have been pretty good.
The dating a married man sceanario fits really well with how things are playing out, but I am not sure I beleive it. The rumor seems wholly unsubstantiated, and there are a million possible reasons why Molly’s parents did not like her previous boyfriend. Maybe he did not play golf?
Ok- I think i have said enough and the baby is about to leap to his death from the kitchen table!
Only 2 more hours to go!
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:56 PM
darn, I thought it would be fun if there were two places people were posting.
Just for the record, I’m a Jillian fan and I would love it if he chose her somehow and never did anything terribly wrong and we loved him again.. but I believe Steve.
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:56 PM
I said the other day that I’d be drunk by 8:15 and I’m in the eastern time zone.
March 2nd, 2009 at 5:59 PM
I think my comment got lost when the RS’s second post was deleted. I had posted that I can’t believe some of you guys are sitll waiting for Jill to step out of that limo. If you think she is that great (I do — strong, smart, genuine, independent) she certainly does not belong with Jason. She needs someone with a bigger vocabulary than “amazing”.
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:02 PM
204 – true true. I know it ain’t gonna happen,.. but if it did, and he picked her, and Jason never really pulled the switcheroo or anything.. then he would be back to being a nice guy in my book..
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:02 PM
Ok well I am leaving work and probably will not be on again till tomorrow. I am hoping against hope that is does not end in some sort of cliff hanger leaving us to guess another day. I don’t think I would survive it. lol Have fun tonight, everyone!
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:03 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOO
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:05 PM
OK
had it on the other link but Steve removed his post so I will go on the record with this
He is ready to propose to one of the F2
Deanna comes back and they have a talk
He realizes that he made a major mistake sending Jill home but is still not sure
He does not propose to either girl but tells them that he needs more time
He has Jill brought back and asks her to spend time with him to see if the realtionship continues to progress the way that it was
AFTR 1
The f2 are brought back and are ticked off because they were both sort of left hanging. They confront him thus the fireworks
He proposes to Jill
AFTR 2
??? Plan for a wedding and pump up Deannas show
I will explain why I have such a strong beleif this is going to happen if it does and if not I will come back tomorrow to eat crow !!!!!
Have fun watching
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:07 PM
208 how does that fit in with Mel being friends with Jill but not with Mol?
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:09 PM
it does appear the other part of this site has disappeared totally, including the comments. He must have taken it off for some reason.
Oh well,
NeedMyLifeBack -
Did you say 9 pM for the show there? EST it’s 8 p.m., so maybe we start at the same time after all; think it was the other site I posted that question to you on.
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:10 PM
Its 7pm for the show to start here in CST.
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:11 PM
Ok, so 7 on east coast is same as 7 on CST? Think so; then there’s mountain and PST; so Atlantic time must be 9, which is the same as my 8 and your 7? That would make sense I guess if everyone gets the same start time, except for the way west zones.
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:13 PM
and of course Hawaii is totally out of the loop; they’re like 7 hours behind us I think; used to live there, but I’ve lost track if they’re now 6 or 7 hours back; they don’t change time over there like we do.
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:17 PM
Hey guys, Melissa was way out of Jason’s league (and he knew it). What man could resist a DCC? She is lucky to be out of this mess. Let’s be happy for her. I hope Molly will figure out what a bad deal this is for her and run away as fast as she can. Jason is a very weak, cry baby.
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:17 PM
I must be borderline masochistic; not only am I watching this thing tonight but I just went and checked my stock and IRA accts online; wish I had the guys to buy while it’s so down but can’t quite make myself do it yet.
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:17 PM
8 est
7 cnt
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:17 PM
Looks like tonight is D-Day for the Bachelor. I have been reading and posting on these blogs for several weeks now and I have seen a wide variety of responses to Molly, her morals, her past relationships, her personality, her goals, her looks, her family, etc.
I know there is nothing I can to make many of you see her differently and I am sorry about that (and I’m sure Molly is too), but I did want my feelings to be known. Although I do not always agree with everything she has done in the past and about this current situation, I still love her. We’ve been friends for over 5 years and I have seen her in the best and worst of times. She is a good person (despite what many of you think), a blast to be around, and a good friend.
I hope in time many of you can start to see her differently.
Happy Bachelor watching!
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:19 PM
Kate -
She’s indeed lucky to have you as a friend. Loyalty is really big in my book; you don’t have to agree with what she’s done, or does, but being there as a friend is a good thing. Kudos to you!
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:20 PM
156–Debbie hmmmmmm let’s see. No tickets…no accidents{my ins co. LOVES me} 5 kids, no ex’s…am a widow….never cheated….lost a son to cancer……hhmmmmmmm……no skeletons…oh wait…..I was adopted! My my…..no I am far from perfect BUT my life isn’t splayed-out in a reality show for all to see either!!
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:21 PM
Kate #217,
Tell your friend she is making a big mistake. Once the dust settles on all of this she will see what a loser Jason is. He is not husband material. How can she stand all of the crying?
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:24 PM
Kate: can you confirm or refute any of the rumors?
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:25 PM
it is 424 pm here so i have to wait over 2 1/2 hours
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:25 PM
an hour and a half left here…
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:26 PM
ARE people wanting those of us that see it at 7 CST to post while we watch…? I don’t want to rain on anyones parade
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:27 PM
I was looking on FB and its soo funny how people swear that none of what is going to happen is true. I can’t wait when everything that RS has been saying ends up happening.
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:27 PM
an hour and a half here too
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:27 PM
Steve,
as a woman, if some man dumped me for some chick and two months later, says wait can we date after all I would say NO….so yeah I am with ya….she must have seen him!
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:29 PM
Weird how all the pro-mol have come out right BEFORE she is shown to be well…you get my point
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:29 PM
All them naysayers gonnna need some of this after tonight! http://www.cooks.com/rec/search/0,1-0,crow,FF.html
Go Steve!
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:31 PM
228..tooonice yeeeessss how interesting is THAT?? hmmmmmmm
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:31 PM
Kate- good for you for defending your friend. I all but called her a skank right out, but I would LOVE to be wrong. If I am wrong then my sincere apologies.
I have done MANY thigs I am nopt proud of-esp in my early 20’s and my frinds stood by me too, and I them while they made their own mistakes! So good on ya for sticking up for Molly.
Jason is 32, and a father. He should know better. And for a guy who is portrayed as being so “sensitive” His behaivor at the ATFR seems anything but.
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:32 PM
toonice – I’m with you girl!
Kate – I admire your loyalty to your friend, can see you are a good person. However, I’m afraid Molly has done something that people are going to judge her for. I doubt she and J will make it as a couple – I have no respect for either of them. But she’s a lucky girl to have you there to pick up the pieces.
One of the things I have always said regarding my own kids – once they hit their 20’s, it was no longer my responsibility to make their decisions. I didn’t always agree with what they chose to do. However, it was my job to be there to help pick up the pieces and support them when things didn’t go as planned. I see Kate in this position with Molly. I’m sure it is difficult hearing all the low opinions people have of Molly – I am one of them who has said negative things. People pull from their own past when forming their opinions. I HAVE been cheated on – I was devastated. I, of course, am going to sympathize with Mel – and I’m going to look at Mol as a homewrecker. I know we talked once before, and I asked you about Mol’s affair. You did not deny it (which tells me you are honest), but you wouldn’t talk about it. I think a lot of us took that to mean it was true, but you weren’t willing to throw your friend under the bus. I respect you for that, Kate. You seem klike an honorable person.
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:33 PM
I’m not watching tonight. Jason is a revolting creature. Yuck!
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:35 PM
Kate #217
Well, if all plays out the way RS says it will, your friend Molly will definitely need you.
She will forever be seen as a cheat and a liar. All will feel that she knew all along what Jason was going to do to Melissa and have it publicized on prime time television. Her responses on the FD’s will be disected line by line, with her smug face being shown again and again, saying, what if you pick the wrong one etc. The upside in all this is that she will have Jason to console her. And what parents wouldn’t be thrilled to accept this stellar person into their family to marry their daughter?
So yes, Kate #217, she will need any friend available to her, and she will be lucky to have you.
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:35 PM
Steve,
If I may borrow your comment section of your blog…
Dear ABC and M FLeiss:
You have underestimated our intelligence and our sense of decency. I, for one, fell for Melissa and I WILL NOT watch her be humiliated on TV tonight. I WILL NOT watch tomorrow or any season in the future. I’ll rely on my buddy Steve for an update on the ending of this season, then it’s sayonara forever, Bachelor!!
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:35 PM
229. turner8989 – LOL!!
The recipe with the kentuckey bourbon should make it go down easier!!!
and my apologies for the typos- I have a bum right index finger and I am still trying to get used to typing without it!
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:36 PM
I agree Ziggy that Jason is revolting – among several other adjectives, some not as nice as others
I can’t imagine anyone having any kind of respect for him after this is over. WimpyJason loserpants.
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:37 PM
Just a curious question, I know pinkgirl will not be coming back until after the finales per her last post, but has anyone been on FORT too look at squaredpants? She too was defending Mel and J relationship.
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:43 PM
#219 DocFooFoo Thank you for admitting that we are all human regardless of our situations. I truely am sorry for your losses.
As a side note…. I keep reading that there are two final roses. I had not heard this before. Is is possible that he gives a rose to both Molly and Melissa and wants to see them further before making an decsions? This could be why ABC knowingly flew these girls on alternating weekend to see Jason. It could be that he does not propose until AFR1 and then AFR2 is the couple and their update. Maybe NO ONE gets proposed to tonight. This may vindicate Jason and Molly??????
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:46 PM
I give up!
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:48 PM
#239 someone else said there was 2 roses too….do you have the link of where you were reading that from?
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:48 PM
217 – Kate, the way things are looking is that either Molly acted as no self-respecting woman would (take a man back 2 months after being dumped on national television). Or, she was in on this too sneaking around with him behind Melissa’s back. If posts about her last boyfriend are indeed true, sneaking around wouldn’t be a stretch.
The common denominator here…ABC. ABC is the reason Jason did not handle the dumping and reunion off-camera, privately. He either went along with it for whatever reason. If he was truly this conflicted, he wouldn’t propose to either of them.
Hopefully Molly dumps him. Maybe ABC will pay her to televise that!
ABC can harp on that word “scripting” all they want and send their boy Jason out to defend them, but no one is buying this show is not seriously MANIPULATED. It’s called alcohol, editing, and the contracts they all sign of course…
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:51 PM
almost time! See y’all later tonight!
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:53 PM
I read it on ABC’s Bachelor website, It all makes sense! They say that there are two roses on the stand at the final rose show. Some think maybe he brings back Stephanie and the other is for her daughter Sophia. I just happened to think that maybe no one tonight get the “final” rose and he continues to date both. Melissa could leave the stage at AFR1 and be upset when he chooses Molly. This is a similar theory to RS, but puts a better light on Jason and Molly. This could be why Chris says he respects Jasons decision and it could turn out to be a true love story.
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:56 PM
do you have a screen shot of the 2 roses? and are you sure it is not from an earlier scene?
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:56 PM
man I need to find something to do for the next hour…maybe my HW lol I love college.
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:57 PM
LOL toonice, I hear ya. I’m making dinner and trying to keep up on here, talk about multi-tasking!
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:59 PM
Have you noticed mainstream media, i.e., big city papers, MSN) are still treating this like a regular season of TB? They either don’t know of the controversy or ignoring it (think the latter). “People” certainly is, but Jason has a blog there. They have a poll there asking readers to chose Mel or Molly. Obviously People has heard all the rumors. Really lame of them to ignore them and pretend nothing is wrong. I wonder how long it will before the conspiracy theories are so widespread they will no longer be able to ignore them
Also the media has been commenting on how great the show’s ratings have been the last few episodes. Nothing like a major fraud to improve a show’s ratings!
March 2nd, 2009 at 6:59 PM
244 debbie : CH is towing the Party line. Jason will be `respected` by CH no matter what… at least … for now
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:00 PM
Is FORT closed to non-members tonight? I can’t pull it up without logging in. If they did that, then this site should be closed to non registered posters. I tried to register 2 or 3 weeks ago – and again this week – haven’t been able to get on yet.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:01 PM
No just read it on the general blog sight of ABC. There is also a writer named Rose who has a column that says the samething. I’ll try to find it and post it.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:01 PM
Well if they are all inkahoots with each other, they’re not going to bring it up. Its the gossip magazines that are going to shed light on this. US weekly has a 2 page spread. Its really interesting. If all turns out to be true, I think they might use it as a story. But thats only if they want the ratings….which they do.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:04 PM
I am and always have been ashamed to admit I even watch this show…but at times it is entertaining. LOL I’ve been reading your blogs and think you may have hit the nail on the head. If so this season has come to an all time low…… no big surprise that there is a break up (they always do); but to do it on NATIONAL TV?! Great example for Ty Jason! He certainly isn’t the nice guy they tried to make him out to be….can’t wait until Molly dumps his butt!
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:05 PM
I went through the FORT registration process again and it let me in – but still hasn’t sent me an e-mail so I can post. Probably wouldn’t anyway – can’t believe you have to be “moderated” before you can post.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:09 PM
#250 whoknew
They sent members an email telling us it was closed to guests tonight, open only to members because they are expecting so much traffic. Once you get your account you need to edit your options and thread count to be 100 to a page as well so that it doesnt crash.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:10 PM
RS’s blog is more fun than the show. Long live RS!!!
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:10 PM
I’ve been trying for 3 weeks – still can’t get on. How long does it take?
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:13 PM
My thoughts: Jason’s a sleeze. What a proud moment for him when Ty is able to watch some of the footage of him slutting around with all these women (said with extreme sarcasm). I guess that too speaks to his character. And I say post the emails. Melissa will finally be vindicated. And it will verify what most are thinking. I think RS’s research is genius. ABC had to take the show from in the toilet to number one in a hurry. This “method” was certainly successful because look at all the attention it’s generating…
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:13 PM
jokers is back to bashing steve
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:16 PM
I just registered on FORT tonight and was able to view the posts.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:17 PM
Heart stopping bachelor finale…leaving you saying Oh MY…
LOL just heard it on a commercial
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:17 PM
I have a feeling these next 45 minutes are going to pass at a dead pace..
I don’t think I’ve been so impatient about a television show in my life.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:18 PM
Freckles… I was able to get on tonight – thanks!
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:19 PM
254 Whoknew
I actually joined 3 days ago or so, and for a few hours I could not post and the I tried logging in the the afternoon and it alowed me to post, I never got any e-mails from them.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:23 PM
Thanks – I’m on now. Have no idea why I couldn’t before.
I’ve had my shower – getting ready to eat dinner – then sit myself in my chair and not move until this is over!!!
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:27 PM
#70 go crawl back under Molly’s skirt…is that you Jascum?
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:28 PM
who knew
yep, got my sweats on, settling on the couch; got my notebook logged in as well and on a TV tray next to the couch so I can keep up with site also; 3 hours of who knows what coming up; another half hour, or so.
My old cat is not happy at this upset in routine; she’s used to being on the lap, having most of the couch, and she’s grumbling.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:31 PM
30 minutes till show time.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:32 PM
THE DAY IS FINALLY HERE!! I feel like my head is going to explode. LOL My head has been spinning ever since RS started posting clues. By the way, did anyone send him a “You’re not allowed to give out clues anymore” memo? lol
Side Note: I’m a little concerned. For the last couple of weeks I’ve been anticipating tonight’s show more than the friggin SUPERBOWL! lol
What if that was Fleiss’ idea from the beginning? I’m still, on some (probably naive) level, hoping RS was intentionally given wrong or slightly spun information as to take us convincingly down one path, only for TB to completely STUN us with a different ending. I’m probably going to be utterly disappointed though, and proud of RS for getting it right. But I just have to see it for myself.
I was originally torn between watching and not watching tonight and tomorrow. I’m still not 100% convinced that RS has nailed the story or that maybe there’s information he was not privy to. If Jason does, in fact, break up with Melissa, completely humiliating her on national television, I will have incredible sympathy for her, and utmost distaste for Jason’s decision making, or lack thereof. (TPTB)
That being said, I refuse to attack anyone’s complete character based on a “reality” tv show. We’ve all said it before…they can edit and spin ANYTHING to make us believe whatever it is they want. I know we don’t have the complete story behind the story, no matter what is relayed to us by sources and moles. Rumors and “leaks” are hearsay to me until I see proof. That’s just my humble opinion.
As for tonight, I’ve got the Popcorn and M&Ms ready to go! Hey…it’s junk food and junk tv night! LOL
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:33 PM
You rock, Reality Steve! I am now completey addicted to your site.
Went out and took pics of the house where they filmed Bachelor this past weekend. You can see pics at http://www.iamnotastalker.com.
Thanks for all the info and I hope you do end up posting those emails!!! Show what a jerk Jason truly is.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:33 PM
Kate,
I too think you are a great friend. Believe me when I say that Molly will need you in a few weeks/months. What she is about to undertake would be hard on anyone, much less having to deal with a new boyfriend, his son and his brother–all under the same roof. It sounds exciting till the new wears off and the media blitz is over. I’m so sorry that Melissa had to go through this–but she will be the one that comes out smelling like a rose.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:33 PM
I think the two roses on the podium mean.
One from Jason one from Ty.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:38 PM
Could be #272
Great post Melanie 222 I completely agree, we should not bash someones character based on a reality show!
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:38 PM
WOW – What happened to my earlier post? I guess I’ll repeat – would we all feel the same way if the situation were reversed – Jason dumps Molly on national t.v.???
I just read that Jason was not only searching for true love but he was also searching for a NANNY for Ty – that’s where the two roses come into play.
Oh, well – 30 minutes & counting…
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:39 PM
20 minutes…lol could it be ANY slower
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:41 PM
What would happen if the station ABC comes on in your town just happened to fail tonight…?
I, for one, would probably have a slight heart attack.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:42 PM
don’t even think that out loud! this will be the night that some “snow” emergency puts Cox on to local weather news or something; we’ve had a sprinkling here in V.B. and to watch the local news, it’s the blizzard of the century – even posting school closings for tomorrow – already – I doubt there’s an inch, if that, anywhere in one place.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:42 PM
lol 276 I am cursing the digital conversion…the signal just seems to bounce in and out with the weather…crossing fingers it doesn’t zone out while watching.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:43 PM
BeckyinOZ,
Jason was boffing the nanny too? who knew
anyway
i ain’t watchin’ tonight
I will be here tomorrow to read all the comments, though
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:43 PM
also, if Cox cable should go down – there goes my internet too!!
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:44 PM
It’s almost time and the anticipation I’m feeling is silly. Think I’ll need more than a glass of wine, thinking an entire bottle, lol
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:44 PM
272 Ty does not go to the FRC but is at the house awaiting their return for a party.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:44 PM
OMG – My neighbor just called – she wants to make sure that I’m taping TB tonight because she won’t be home to watch. Anyway, you know what she said? She said she PRAYS it won’t be Molly because she absolutely cannot stand her. I almost spilled the beans but didn’t.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:47 PM
btw, here is a toast to all of you, cheers !
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:47 PM
I really wish there was a chatroom here!!
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:47 PM
CrazyWorld, I know what you mean! I’m staying tuned in to you guys because I’ve still got a little over 3 hours to go before I can start watching. Maybe I should open the wine NOW. Might help me cope with the waiting. LOL
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:47 PM
Hey All.
I’ve been lurking for days and am just as irritated about this whole thing as everyone else. I just have to say two things. I live in the Grand Rapids area, and believe me, not everyone here is pleased with the way in which Molly is behaving. We would rather have Grand Rapids portrayed in a much better light.
And number 2, although the country club in which Molly is supposedly a member is exclusive, it’s more the middle class man’s country club. It is by no means “old money”. There a few other country clubs in the area that are MUCH more exclusive. Anyway, that’s my 2 cents.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:48 PM
Hey,
I admit to be a little slow, but I’ve never been able to navigate FORT succesfully. Will you FORT posters please report any good dirt here too. Thanks.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:49 PM
286 – Are you gonna stop looking at this board soon? Sorry if you hear it all before us, that sucks !
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:50 PM
Last chance for a pee break!! LMAO
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:50 PM
back to you crazy world -Cheers
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:50 PM
Ten minutes! Holy smokes!
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:51 PM
287 – does Molly have dentures ?
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:52 PM
289 CrazyWorld, I don’t know! I’m so torn…On one hand I can’t WAIT to find out what really happens. On the other…it would ruin the experience. LOL I can’t believe I’m talking this way about a tv show….I have a life…REALLY I DO!
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:53 PM
Can’t see my posts, what is going on we crashing here ?
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:53 PM
I wish this site updated automatically; without having to hit refresh all the time! minor gripe
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:53 PM
Allright here it comes do to me what you will bachelor…I’m ready. Will be back to see everyone’s thoughts later.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:54 PM
gawd 7 minutes…gee whiz I have never been so impatient for a SHOW in my life…lol
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:54 PM
Funny thing, I just got pizza delivered, it was the wrong one. I had to send it back and get the correct one! Maybe this is an omen RS could be right!!!!
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:54 PM
HAHA 299.
Hilarious.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:57 PM
alright FINALLY THAT dang case show is almost over! LOL I need caffeine but don’t want to go to the store. SAD
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:57 PM
Feel like a little girl in a candy store, so so silly, my husband thinks I’m nut’s ! The wine is going down smooth imagine when I start watching TB !.. 3 minutes and counting, I feel like it is New Years Eve, LMAO .
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:58 PM
299 Debbie – LMBO Too funny!
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:58 PM
I think it’s funny to see so many of you claiming you WILL NOT WATCH tonight and WILL NOT WATCH AGAIN. You’ll watch it, you know you will. Anyone who was interested enough to be following this saga and participate in these comments WON’T MISS IT. You may not like the outcome, but you’ll watch.
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:59 PM
I created a login and then it let me view it… i prolly still can’t post but i jsted wanted to lurk anyway….
Has anyone noticed that Ty looks like Eddie Munster?
Time to make popcorn and watch!!
March 2nd, 2009 at 7:59 PM
I’m not able to watch it for 3 more hours and yet I’m antsy and excited FOR YOU GUYS! LOL
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:00 PM
AND IT IS GO TIME!
see ya on the commercial breaks
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:00 PM
countdown begins !!
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:00 PM
And it begins!
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:02 PM
Ok I am ready. This is nothing that a good glass of Merlot with a good bar of Swiss dark chocolate can’t cure.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:03 PM
304. I aint’ watchin. I don’t want to give Fleiss his ratings. that’s why I’ll get it second hand from you all.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:04 PM
RS you really are so cool.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:07 PM
FYI 1234567
I AM NOT watching, said I wouldn’t and I’m NOT =)
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:07 PM
Here we go!!! Fasten your seat belts.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:08 PM
Poor Ty. He really liked Melissa. Maybe he’s forgotten about her. I hope for his sake that he has.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:09 PM
so far -not much – pretty lame actually
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:09 PM
really seriously…a golf course for Mel to meet Ty.
Kinda tack looking at it as Molly’s turf
love that opening snark “ready for some golfing this is what we do”
of course I am looking at everything through the conspiracy lens.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:09 PM
Omg, Ty and Melissa appear to get along so well, aww poor Ty.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:09 PM
does anybody else find it just a lil odd that during the preview clip at the beginning of the show jason said that everything is “so real” between him and molly? who says that..it just seems weird to me
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:09 PM
Good work, Reality Steve.
This whole scenario is bizarre. It doesn’t surprise that production influences the show. I think that’s been obvious for several seasons. The Bachelors and Bachelorettes always recycle the same, stilted lines season after season. I’m just surprised that the producers would take it to the level that they did this season.
The truth is that the Bachelor has always had two types of viewers–those hoping for a love story and those watching for the trainwreck of it all. Since the love story angle hasn’t worked successfully, they went for the trainwreck route. Ironically though, I thought that the chemistry between Molly and Jason was very palpable and noticeable on the tent date. I figured then that she would be the one. I never thought Melissa was a good fit for Jason. So, here WAS (finally) a chance for ABC to present what could possibly have been as close to a love story as you can get on this show, and they passed that up. They chose to make Jason, who started out likeable, into a complete douche. And humiliate poor Melissa on TV.
I wish the Bachelor could take on a more authentic route, instead of the goof production-induced Mike Fleiss twists. Then again, I’ve watched a few seasons of this, so I suppose I can’t complain. Well, off to watch the trainwreck.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:10 PM
i got my cofee, cigs, remote. laptop, and phone. i have been waiting too long for tonight. i really hope RS is wrong.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:10 PM
I have been waiting way to long to watch this tonight!
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:10 PM
Ty is so cute. Melissa’s goofy jokes even made me laugh.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:11 PM
310: I am going to eat supper (turkey sandwich and ff’s) and then indulge in oreos and milk. Maybe some popcorn if I run out of oreos. I will blame the gorging on the pregnancy though! LOL
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:11 PM
she’ll be a good first grade teacher
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:12 PM
#305 – EDDIE MUNSTER???
I almost wet my pants!!!
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:12 PM
Melissa is just way to fake. I don’t see her as showing her true self. Although that could also be the editing
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:12 PM
The Bachelor the morning after will be tomorrow morning on Good Morning America. Can’t miss that.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:14 PM
I wonder how confusing this whole situation is for Ty. I know it was confusing for me when one of my grandpa’s was dating two women at the same time when I was about Ty’s age. It still makes me uncomfortable to think about it!
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:14 PM
299- the pizza people will probably spit (at least) in your pizza…….
…………..just a thought…….enjoy the show
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:15 PM
I love Melissa!
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:15 PM
I love Melissa….she’s too perfect….he’s seriously missed out.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:16 PM
How can Mel say that her family went to all events together and then say that her parents never met her friends or went to watch her cheer. Sounds like some kind of lie there
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:16 PM
and for that matter……….jay and mol, the pizza, chinese, italian, japanese, and sub people will always be spitting in your food!!!!!!
dont let Ty eat your take out please……
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:17 PM
Hey seriously…has anyone noticed the difference in dresses from the blue one that Melissa wore (in the previews of the season) to the gold one she wears at the rose cermony? Any guesses as to what’s up with that???
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:18 PM
GAWD stop with the he didn’t meet her family! seriously they are digging it into the ground! she is trying soooo hard to stay positive.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:19 PM
I’m watching 24. Jack Bauer just knocked Bill unconscious
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:19 PM
335: FORT’ers proved it was just TBP edited gold dress to look blue
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:19 PM
Will Jason, Mel, and Molly all be on GMA in the morning? Aww. Ty’s asking for Melissa. This is breaking my heart. Jason, how could you do what you did?
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:20 PM
The editing of Melissa is starting to make me mad. They put these little bits of his family looking at her like they don’t believe what she’s saying.
They are completely planting the doubt in our minds, that potential something could go wrong.
I am willing to bet we will see the missing “spark” with molly next. You know, the spark that wasn’t really shown except for the tent episode….
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:23 PM
I’m watching it now and I just cannot see him faking his feelings for Melissa. He seems to be crazy about her. Even knowing what I know from RS, it just seems unbelievable that what I see on the tv screen is not real.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:23 PM
Hmm …. LOL it looks like Ty doesn’t take to Molly
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:23 PM
I’m gonna watch something else for a while. This is making me sad.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:23 PM
at work, whats going on with show?
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:23 PM
I love them together.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:24 PM
339: would love if Ty asked for Mel on Mol’s date! LOL that would be drama I would LOVE to SEE!
And yeah, previews to Mol meeting the fam: I really really have feelings for Jason…no mention of the L word.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:24 PM
Melissa appears to be so genuine and Jason’s father hugged her so dearly !
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:24 PM
jack Bauer just tasered someone. OK lol. I’ll stop now.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:24 PM
#341 – Maybe he did truly care about her. There is a slight possibility that it wasn’t a set up, and he’s just a dumba** — although thats a stretch.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:25 PM
Jason’s mother reminds me of my EX mother-in-law.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:25 PM
Ohh so they took the gold dress and made it blue? I thought her hair was down though in the previews and now it’s up?
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:25 PM
344 most of us are posting every commercial
so far Mel meets Ty at a golf course (goes GREAT)
Mel meets family where they drill J not meeting her family into the ground.
Thats all so far. Apparently it is 4 hours b.c of all the dam commercials! LOL
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:25 PM
This whole thing with Mel makes me sick…She is so great and I just do not get why he would dump her….Makes me hate him even more!!!
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:26 PM
did anyone just notice the commercial where they say, YOU’LL NEVER BELIVE WHAT HAPPENS TO JASON?
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:26 PM
did anyone just notice the commercial where they say, YOU’LL NEVER BELIVE WHAT HAPPENS TO JASON?
like something is gonna happen to him.. ugh.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:26 PM
350 – is that good or bad ? LOL
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:26 PM
348: My husband is Iming about about how good 24 is ( he lucked out is on a business trip this week) LOL
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:27 PM
What bothers me the most is how Jason says he is in love with both Mel and Molly. If that is (was) truly the case, then why propose at all? Why couldn’t he have just been straight up with both of the girls and told them he loved them both and therefore would not propose to either at that time. Let them decide then if they wanted to pursue a relationship with him with the knowledge that he loved them both. Then, after an appropriate time of dating, Jason, Mel and Molly could have more clarity of the situation. Especially since he was “in love” with DeAnna shortly before he began his season of TB.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:27 PM
#354 – i missed that.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:27 PM
357
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:28 PM
Let me tell you something…if I were Molly and I saw this show tonight…we’d have some SERIOUS issues…edit or not…he is REALLY into Melissa….
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:28 PM
352 too nice,
Thanks your too cool, keep me posted, i cant believe that i scheduled myself to work tonight…ugh,,, thank god for dvr, i will be watching this at 4 am tomorrow……
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:29 PM
LOL! Ty does NOT like Mol!
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:30 PM
They say that kids know…see how Ty does not take to Molly as well as he did to melissa…
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:31 PM
did she say her little atchoo joke yet?
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:31 PM
364 Yep kids have the best intuition. I think Mel was more playful.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:31 PM
363. Steph you are SOOO right…AND She wears WAY to much makeup…
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:32 PM
This is so depressing
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:32 PM
365. heather k – yeah they did Mel first
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:33 PM
Jason, Molly and Ty = boring. forced. I almost fell asleep.
Jason, Melissa and Ty = natural, fun
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:33 PM
Interestingly enough, a few seasons ago, there was a bachelor named Charlie and of course, I forgot his last name, but he was in a situation where he couldn’t decide between the two final women. The classy thing that he did was to ask for more time to date both women openly to see who he really wanted to be with. When he finally made the decision, of course, there was a show and instead of bringing the girl he rejected out in front of the audience and breaking it off with her then, he went to her dressing room and did it there.
Granted, there were still cameras, but at least, she went into this knowing that she had a 50-50 shot. It shows that the either the Bachelor franchise cared more about the people on the show and/or Charlie was a man who truly didn’t want to hurt anyone without being sure and didn’t let the show push him around. Too bad, Jason was too much of a pushover and the show cared more about its ratings.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:34 PM
I don’t know what it is, but I have NEVER liked Molly – even before all of this started.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:34 PM
how could he be so crazy over her eyes, with all that make- up how could he actually see them, yuck !
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:34 PM
Ty’s reaction to Mol reminds me of the old saying that the best judge of character is kids and animals. OMG he DID not like her. SHY my bum!
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:34 PM
boring and painful thus far
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:35 PM
i agree 374
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:36 PM
368. rachelmchll depressing is not even the word for it…if we had not known the outcome we’d be sitting here rooting Mel on and loving the love story. Molly’s edit is truly crap…they have not even given us a reason to root for her and to top it off the “money” shots of her with the “happy” thoughts seem soooo fake it’s ridiculous.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:36 PM
369 was that sad to watch?
did you notice in the preview from last week that Molly didnt even look like her without makeup? she looked like a whole differant person didnt you think?
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:37 PM
371- It was Charlie O’Connell he is related to Jerry O’Connell the actor. And like you said about giving it more time, thats understandable, like Brad who couldn’t propose to either. I have much more respect for someone that can admit that they just don’t know and aren’t sure.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:38 PM
377 agreed. I just don’t see why they would give Molly a bad edit…I mean I get it, ratings and all, but wouldn’t they want us to “love” this new couple…almost in the same way we liked Trista and Ryan…
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:38 PM
watch 24 instead! JAck Bauer just got himself arrested. Lots more action and at least it’s not pretending to be reality!
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:38 PM
Molly way too much makeup and very forced with Ty. Melissa is just a natural with children — she does not have to work at it.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:38 PM
“they support anything that I do” except they didn’t like when I slept with that married man…
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:39 PM
I meant Molly…not Mel…lol…
382. refusetobeduped I could not agree more…
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:40 PM
Looking at the body language his family does not like Molly the way they liked Melissa…
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:40 PM
Anyone notice the brother saying getting “kicked out of the house?”
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:41 PM
“are you ready to kick me out of the house??”
came from Jasons brother when talking to Molly
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:41 PM
isn’t Molly just 23…and she is saying that she is ready to settle down and is over her fun, partying life….thatz really ridiculous
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:41 PM
FORT chatroom link:
http://client.sigmachat.com/sc.php?id=43545
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:42 PM
I like Jason’s family. They seem really kind, and also have their heads on straight about this whole thing. Or so it seems iIshould say.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:43 PM
388 again she doesnt even look old enough to be 23 without her makeup, last weeks previews…..
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:43 PM
Ah…the family is now insinuating that they KNOW Molly loves him, but with Melissa it’s questionable? That totally goes against everything we’ve been shown so far. Go figure!
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:45 PM
heather k the thing is that I thought she was kinda pretty without the makeup and looked YOUNG…she looks like an old hag with the ponytail and make up.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:45 PM
LOL oh MOM Jason is taking this seriously!? hmmmm riiiight
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:45 PM
i am officially in love with jason’s dad. he should be the next bachelor.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:45 PM
See I really do like Melissa. She just appears and come across (or the editing does anyways) that is too young and not ready to take on a husband, step son, and household.
I can see Molly taking on these responsibilities much easier.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:45 PM
Jason asks how do you pick betwn two people you’ve fallen in love with. Well you don’t propose to one. You continue to date them until your path become clear. I’ve always felt if you love both, you really love neither.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:46 PM
the way Jascum is cryin all the time…looks to me like a setup…seriosuly some unecessary tears…..tryin to make it look like he’s torn b/w the 2 of them
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:47 PM
This is weird, I just felt as though I’ve seen a different side of Molly than before. She appeared to be very kind, sweet and Jason’s family really like her. Wow !
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:47 PM
I still really like Molly… and not just because I’m from Michigan…
I think his family liked her… and did you notice Jason and Molly’s talk on the beach before they went over to meet TY..? That was very intimate … he didn’t do that with Melissa..
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:47 PM
even as Molly is saying goodbye to the family Ty is like “get away from me stalker!” HE DOESN’T LIKE HER!
Jason loves two people…apparently he isn’t counting himself.
Family tells Jason that Mol REALLY loves him.
BUT she is career oriented- ABC really plays up that aspect.
Ummm…yeah not sure what else to say. YAWN Ty was what made this worth watching.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:47 PM
deanna.blinks.a.lot
uh..oh..chris is forecasting the dramatic tornado coming up.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:48 PM
this is just way too weird tonight, in a lot of ways. if this is the best they could do with all that editingt………
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:49 PM
Melissa talking to her parents… there we go again.. plant the doubt in our heads…..
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:49 PM
molly will need better gel if she is going to live in seattle
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:50 PM
*sigh* can we just skip all this and get to the last 15 mins already? that would be great
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:50 PM
Regarding Molly’s makeup…check this out!!! I just found a picture of what she’ll look like in a few years. Jason’s crazy.
http://ladyelainefairchilde.blogspot.com/
My apologies to Molly and her fans…but she should “lighten up” a little.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:51 PM
405: lmao, no kidding! i know aaaall about that. i have the curliest hair ever. she would never last with my genes, haha…you would think that she’d fix up her hair at least 2 meet his family
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:51 PM
Molly still seems like she’s holding back to me…if she is more natuarally reserved, ok fine- but Melissa’s edit still seems more natural open, loving. They had plenty of chances to make it seem a little more up in the air….still harping on this family shznit…..
ok- i have no point….
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:52 PM
I wish Steve would get on here and chat with us…that would be great
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:52 PM
406: couldn’t agree more! LOL
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:52 PM
Jason’s sister/sister-in-law whoever she is seems to much prefer Molly.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:55 PM
Steve, please don’t apologize. I don’t think the quality group of people here have been fooled for a second by Jason. I mean just because a person went to school doesn’t mean they learned anything So Jason can stick that degree where the sun don’t shine cuz he’s a disgace to the field.
You are dead right about his immaturity and motives. He’s basically a guy who was spoiled and overindulged as a kid (a trait he seems to be passing on btw) and was made to feel more important and special than, frankly, he actually is. Anyone who studies kids knows their ego can be blown out of control if the love is not tempered with an awareness about other people. Anyhoo, not to be mean but in looking over his brothers he looks to be the best looking of the three, and so I believe his mother catered to him irresponsibly. And when he married and his wife dumped him all his beliefs about being so irresistable and important were shattered. The illusion was destroyed. So instead of picking himself up and entering the dating scene again, he did nothing until he fixated on this TV show where he could possibly once again prove to himself (and the world!) how special he really is. Imagine – winning a contest over 25 (?) other men and getting the prize at the same time. How special would that be? He was desperate to be the winner. Deeeesperate! I think most of us recognized him as super weasily from the get go. The only thing he does with that psychology degree is try to read people and morph into that “image.” IMO he was gross then and is gross now, and watching all these organsmic women fawning over him has done nothing to change that opinion. You’re right! He did not have to agree to any of these shenanigans; he could have absolutely refused! But Jason is nothing if not a person of weak character and moron when it comes to using his conscience. A single dad using his kid to find love on TV? Twice?? That child should never have been on camera once. But he was told from the beginning, I’m sure, that the kid was a good angle and was encouraged (pressed?) to play it up. And guess what? He capitulated like the wimpy boy he is and will always be. Jerk!
Sorry for the length, I needed to vent.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:55 PM
melissa just said,”i am the happiest i have ever been” – it’s like watching a bad trainwreck. jason looks like the gorton’s fisherman. she should dump him overborard. ok, it’s like a typhoon. foreshadow, much?
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:55 PM
I live in Seattle and I can tell you when that rain hits hair that has that much hairspray and gel in it you have a mess.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:56 PM
EWWWW!
Melissa has a tatoo on her lower back!
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:56 PM
I love him and melissa. enough sad. If all of this is true, i will be so upset and may shed a tear….
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:56 PM
Ewww. Same trunks as with Jilly – see the button on the back.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:56 PM
415 – hilarious!
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:57 PM
melissa’s parents are going to speak to jason by phone. i will be drunk if he says amazing one more time.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:58 PM
knock.knock. who’s there. melissa. melissa who? melissa run while you can.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:58 PM
Jason: “Mel’s the best” that’s why I want to humiliate her on national tv.
March 2nd, 2009 at 8:59 PM
LIAR!! You’ve never felt that way either? BARF!
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:00 PM
410: dream come true
This Segment
J and Mel get on top of a boat in the rain…DER(that was dumb) lol.
He is told that he gets to talk to her parents.
lol. That’s it folks.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:00 PM
ew. the greasy scene where molly gives the soft porn massage is coming up. amazing. again. oh god, i am drunk.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:00 PM
I only saw one rose on that last preview
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:02 PM
Molly saying “I want to give myself to him 110%” almost made me gag.
Seriously?
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:02 PM
Gawd…what a waste of time. LOL I think I will just listen to it and post here when I hear something relevant
OH MEL’S PINKY RING IS CLEAR IN SOME OF THE CLIPS THIS SEGMENT THOUGH!
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:02 PM
#421 Soooooooo funny, almost lost my Pepsi
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:03 PM
LOL @ #421 and #425!
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:03 PM
I think these date really showed the difference between Mel and Molly. Melissa is a natural unstudied person, and Molly comes across as very made-up and artificial.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:04 PM
There is no emotion tonight, it all feels like playacting. Maybe it is because we have been speculating on the outcome for so long, or, this season is a snoozer and we don’t care who wins.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:04 PM
#427 Erin
I thought the same thing LOL. I am sure she does want to give him 110% of herself. (her ass)
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:04 PM
Oh ps have I mentioned the tackiness in taking Mel to a golf course to meet ty (definitely molly’s terrritory (golf course-NOT TY))
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:04 PM
“put it all out there for him” – is that what you kids are calling it these days?
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:05 PM
Molly sounds like a robot. Not trying to be mean, but honest.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:05 PM
Most honest things I have heard:
Mol: I am very in love with Jason…right now
Jason: I am going to push melissa out of my mind
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:06 PM
molly just said, “strip down baby” i just threw up a little in my mouth
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:06 PM
Couldnt agree more tooonice!
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:06 PM
He likes to be lead around and decisions made for him…Molly is the boss and will wear the pants and Jason will gladly let her lead. I give it 3-4 months tops.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:07 PM
watching that “maaa-sage” made me throw up a little in my mouth
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:07 PM
Hmm wonder if the massage trick was how she got the married guy…..sorry I couldn’t resist.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:07 PM
Wow – what a complete and total sleeze. She really is gross!
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:07 PM
LOL @ #407 Melanie222 – The resemblance between her and Molly is scary! And apparently she has warts….LOOK OUT JASON! lol
Did y’all see this?
http://ladyelainefairchilde.blogspot.com/
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:08 PM
me too 441; see my 438. it was a molly-sage
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:08 PM
How many times can Jason say “I can’t get enough of her” in regards to Molly?
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:08 PM
this is so gross. it all seems so anti-climatic now.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:09 PM
Ok Ok we know you gave him all of you – there is no doubt you spread eagle so fast it made his head spin!
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:09 PM
finally this will be over-
Your cracking me up!!!!!!!!
“put it all out there for him” – is that what you kids are calling it these days?
ew. the greasy scene where molly gives the soft porn massage is coming up. amazing. again. oh god, i am drunk.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:09 PM
hey, she got the jesse book!
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:09 PM
Jason is sooo into himself! Molly is stealing Jessie’s book idea from last year
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:10 PM
Okay the book she made is not original. Jesse did for DeAnna last season!
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:10 PM
im gonna puke!!!!
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:10 PM
Sounds like he’s thinking with his little head.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:10 PM
Ok i give her some credit for the book….. touching.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:11 PM
actually, it is the end.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:11 PM
What an amazing unoriginal gift LOL
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:11 PM
amazing. bottom’s up
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:11 PM
Love jasons response to the “book” molly made “oh my god are you serious!”
LOL
Other than that Molly tramps it up by wearing a bikini and giving Jason a front massage. Wears and ugly shirt to “cook” dinner
Ummm…thats about it, Jason seems to like the word “Great” now. Jason says he has completely fallen for Molly.
If I leave anything important out let me know peeps.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:12 PM
Molly isn’t as cold as I thought of her, wow !
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:12 PM
second rate, everything about his show has been done before they are copying and saying the lines and nothing rings true
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:12 PM
#444…LMFAO!!! When we4 were younge we used to always say Lady Elaine had a penis-nose!!! RRroooooooffffffffff
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:12 PM
Who will he choose……in the end
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:12 PM
Commercials are killing me!
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:12 PM
where’s trista when we need her to bring some sense to these shennanigans.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:13 PM
407 …i cant bring that photo up at work, will check it out at home.
416/418 tramp stamp….yuk, , they will regret when gma’s no doubt
427 110% maybe she will give her whole self and some of a friend….
lol
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:13 PM
Where is Melissa’s gift to Jason and phone call from parents to Jason? Had to edit in Deanna dearest I guess.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:13 PM
SHe put her claws into him on this date, LOL
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:14 PM
I was thinking the same thing 454. These blogs are so much more fun than the show!!
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:14 PM
LMAO DocFooFoo Isn’t that HILARIOUS?!?!?! LOL That totally looks like Molly!!
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:14 PM
I wanted to see the phone call between him and the parents.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:15 PM
Is anyone else dying to read the emails?
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:15 PM
I thought Melissa said he would get to talk to her parents tomorrow?
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:16 PM
Where’s I Love Reality Steve?
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:17 PM
I wonder if they do air the phone call…I predict Jason saying a bunch of BS including something along the lines of “She’s so awesome and amazing. I mean everything about her is just amazing…our time together is just amazing”…blah blah
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:17 PM
here comes the phone call
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:17 PM
DeAnna is doing a live video chat tonight after the finale and ATFR on GetMarried.com/deanna/livechat @ 11pm ET
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:17 PM
GOOOD GRACIOUS! IF i hear “I am in love with two women” again.
Correction you are in love with “a lady and a tramp”
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:18 PM
wow I spoke too soon
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:18 PM
Here comes DeAnna!!
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:18 PM
Here comes Deanna
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:18 PM
This is like watching a train come and someone is tied to the tracks
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:18 PM
Lol toonice
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:18 PM
That is not a flattering outfit on Deanna. AT ALL!
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:18 PM
Melissa gave the gift of talking to her parents and her heart…Molly gave a rehashed book that was Jesses idea last year and an xrated massage…hmmm…who will he chose?
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:19 PM
what is she wearing, seriously.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:19 PM
So very true tooonice : )
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:20 PM
hey 299,,,,,did you get the right pizza yet?????
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:20 PM
In case anyone wants a diversion, there is great tennis on from Madison Square Garden on HBO…
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:20 PM
I hate Deanna. Will she ever just go away?
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:20 PM
She is talking and it looks like he wants to laugh. This looks totally acted.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:21 PM
She’s awfully arrogant
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:21 PM
Deanna has aged, not as attractive as I remember last year.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:21 PM
dissed! ba bye deanna.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:21 PM
Does Deanna have hard contacts or what? I’d forgotten how much her crazy blinking irritates me.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:22 PM
deanna is giving relationship advice??????????????
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:22 PM
O M G! Jason is telling her…omg…they edited it out and stuck some quick lame….thanks you for your advise!! CYA BYE
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:22 PM
ha ha de just called herself stupid on national tv
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:22 PM
lead your heart? Is hse an idiot? Well, now we know why she is still single folks.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:23 PM
man i could just smack her lol
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:23 PM
deanna = attention whore indeed! was it necessary for her to come back???? oh yeah, i forgot, she wants a paycheck!
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:23 PM
Her outfit is from a THrift Shop, no taste yuck !
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:23 PM
i am about to do something i never wanted to do…”throw myself off this balcony to end all of your pain”
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:23 PM
De looks like she wrapped herself in a burlap sack
RS’s theories are coming true, deanna gets the verbal bitchslap from Jason.
OOOH deanna says something wise ” don’t follow your heart lead it”
yeah these commercials are frustrating!
lol tis all from this segment
IF I HEAR CHRIS SAY “out of respect for the parties involved…”
If you wanted to respect them you would have had it done off camera.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:24 PM
Her hair was different every time they showed her.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:24 PM
Jason’s eyes went sooo wide….you mean???? he almost went there with Deanna then he remembered that this is a TV show and she is getting PAYED and he has already been PLAYED by her once….but you could tell he really, really, really wanted to go there.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:24 PM
Wonder how much she got paid to do that segment with him
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:24 PM
The whole Deanna thing was soooo freakin staged. Blah.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:24 PM
Am I crazy or didn’t I see Deanna crying in a promo?
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:25 PM
DeAnna must have lost her clothing budget when the Bachette ended.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:25 PM
What happened to D saying…”you still have time you haven’t given the rose out yet” They pulled an edit on that too…….??
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:26 PM
if i buy that bra that heidi klum was advertising like 20 mins ago, will i look like her?
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:26 PM
Apparently Jason is updating his Twitter status at each commercial break. However, I am having trouble accessing the main page, is anyone else?
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:26 PM
505 Steph
I noticed that too!
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:26 PM
Well, De took that well considering she just asked him to take her back and he rejected her. I don’t think anyone would believe that.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:27 PM
all that hype for 2 minutes if deanna. grr
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:27 PM
lol 512
only if you got the rack like her
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:27 PM
we have seen 2 commercials for different circusses….ironic? i think not.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:27 PM
Didn’t they show Deanna crying in a promo?
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:27 PM
I am SO SICK of hearing him say “she’s got me!” gahhh!
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:28 PM
They probably talked a lot more but only showed us 15 seconds of their fake conversation….
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:28 PM
Jason IS updating his twitter constantly…says he still has the book….
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:29 PM
From Jason’s twitter: happy endings… i love massages.9 minutes ago from mobile web
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:29 PM
How do you get to his Twitter? Sorry I’m Twitter-ly challenged.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:29 PM
i miss jillian
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:30 PM
I’m following his tweets.
And does anyone else think that balcony scene is soooooooooo put on and fake. It doesn’t appear real to me at all.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:30 PM
515…. I know. Makes no sense.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:30 PM
it’s jason’s “twitter” that got him into this mess in the first place. y’all know what i mean?
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:30 PM
Molly-mole is such a phoney! All her words sound just like they are from a movie script!
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:31 PM
*Snark Alert* Everytime I see Molly, I want someone to stop filming and brush her hair.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:31 PM
http://twitter.com/jasonmesnick
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:31 PM
Lol 528
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:31 PM
it’s showtime!
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:31 PM
It is so obvious that ABC made Deanna go on and advise Jason to not pick the wild card (Molly) therby setting up the switcheroo!
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:31 PM
I’m getting nervous!
lol
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:32 PM
torn between two lovers….feeling like a fool….maybe he cries because he accidentally drops the ring off the balcony….
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:32 PM
LOL You’re right! Jason apparently followed his twitter and got himself stuck in a bush….I mean a BIND! LMAO
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:33 PM
She looked like a little chunky monkey on the previews…..she just kind of clunks out of the car…….grow your hair back de or get some extensions……
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:33 PM
The actual bachelor may have become bargain basement, but the engagement ring is top drawer — Neil Lane suppliies jewelry for the Oscars.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:33 PM
I don’t like the color of Molly’s dress.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:33 PM
because you are a doofus
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:33 PM
JM Twitter Status: “deanna’s visit was heart wrenching” 2 minutes ago from mobile web
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:33 PM
Sorry, don’t believe that Jason is twittering. Anyone could have signed up under his name
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:34 PM
I dont beleive that twitter account is really his.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:34 PM
yay, got it, thanks Melanie
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:34 PM
Is there something wrong with me? I don’t see the love he claims he has for either of these girls.! UHHGGGGG
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:34 PM
On twitter it says his middle name isn’t Scott…so did she just make that up?
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:35 PM
ok, i do feel bad for melissa.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:35 PM
How does he sleep at night?
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:35 PM
Molly’s dress’s color is cheap looking, and Melissa needs a brighter color.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:36 PM
Hey did Deanna ask for J back??
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:36 PM
He’s been waiting YEARS for?? He’s only been divorced 1 freekin year….WTH???
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:37 PM
Damnit he said it again “two women” Molly’s eyes, passion growing.
Mellissa is amazing, falling in love with her since the begininng
How do you fall in love with 2 women…but I did.
Mel says she has always been the dumpee…guess what sweetheart you ain’t had nothing yet
Oh yeah and a bunch of other crap but really it all kinda went in one ear and out the other when I saw jason’s ugly ass tie. And the most ostentatious ring possible (or out of the group he was given) talk about over the top.
If I was mel I would pawn that sucker.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:37 PM
They edited that part out Lala
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:37 PM
Too funny #522
You are so right about that.
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:38 PM
Well thats a bunch of crap!
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:38 PM
With Melissa they always sit warm and snuggly, Molly and him are always apart – her body language is keeping people out
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:38 PM
YUCK…he kept saying he was in love with 2 girls and hadn’t made up his mind but chose a one of a kind ring? The ring should remind the man of the woman he is asking to spend the rest of his life with…..RS lets hope that Molly comes to her senses soon, Melissa will get over this humiliation but Molly could end up married to Jason as he seems bound and determined to rope someone into marrying him…..
He should have married Natalie on their Las Vegas date – now that would have been a spontaneous earthshattering moment!