The Bachelor 13 - Jason

Some Final Thoughts on Tonight’s “Shocker”

So as we head into a “shocking” finale that I’ve waited six weeks for, a couple thoughts about everything in general.

As for the Megan interview, I was able to recover some of the audio, but I can’t upload it now. So what I’m doing is transcribing the last 35 minutes we did so you can read my questions and her answers in a nutshell. I will have that up either later tonight or in tomorrow’s column.

Let’s start with another interview conducted this weekend by none other than, you guessed it, Hairbotique.com. Can’t say I’d ever think in a million years they’d want to talk to me, but hey, I enjoyed it. The author is a big fan of mine, they’re based here in the DFW metroplex, and she wanted to get my story out there. I think the one thing about this interview you’ll find different is its actually about me, not the news I broke. That’s been covered ad nauseum and I think you all know about what happens tonight. No, this one is just about me, my background, and what makes me tick. I think. Take a look for yourself. Here’s the link:

Who is Reality Steve?

UPDATE: Looks like the problem is fixed and everyone should be able to access the link now, which is why I took down the other post where I cut and pasted the interview.

As for tonight, I think a lot of people have gotten on me for attacking Jason and Molly’s character throughout this whole process, and really, I don’t think I have. Do I think what he did was wrong? Yes. Does that make him a bad person? Depends on how you look at it. I think he’s a decent guy, but a horrible decision maker and easily manipulated. Let’s face it, Jason Mesnick, in the last 12 months:

-Proposed to DeAnna and got rejected
-Agreed to sign on for another reality show where 25 girls would chase him
-Proposed to Melissa and she accepted
-Two months later, changes his mind, dumps her on national TV, and starts up with yet another girl, Molly

I mean, the guy seems to be like a kid in a candy store. He doesn’t know what he wants. I don’t see that as being the “catch” that ABC is making him out to be, I’m sorry. I think he’s one of those guys that probably didn’t date a lot before he got married, got divorced, felt pretty down about the whole thing, had an opportunity to come on this show, got dumped by DeAnna, then does this season, only to be manipulated and do what he was told. I think this guy just tries to please too many people and doesn’t take a stand for himself. Is that a character assassination? I don’t think so. I think it’s a character flaw that he has. We all have character flaws. Hell, I know I do. But I also know that I never would’ve done this to Melissa, or any woman for that matter.

The bottom line is this regarding Jasons character: Regardless of if he had a “change of heart” and “couldn’t take his mind off Molly”, Jason DID NOT have to break up with Melissa on camera and embarrass her like that. Period. End of story. Yes, he’s under contract to ABC to create a story and a show here, but if he puts his foot down and refuses to dump her at the ATFR 1 taping, it could’ve happened. But he didn’t. And that is one of the things I “couldn’t wrap my head around.” He chose to embarrass her instead of breaking up with her off camera. So judge his character based on that.

As for Molly, hey, I’ve said this from day one, I DID NOT KNOW what her role was in all this. I know she knew something, but at what point and how much is the million dollar question. When I first broke the news, I was convinced Molly didn’t know anything when she left New Zealand. And I still believe that. After I heard about what went down at the ATFR 1 taping, I figured she was pretty upset and left New Zealand pretty unhappy. I ruled out Jason telling her before the final rose ceremony, “Ok, here’s what’s gonna happen. I’m gonna dump you, pick Melissa, but take you back in two months. Got it? Ok, now act all upset tomorrow.” No, I don’t think that happened at all. I think she thought she had a good chance to be picked, but when she wasn’t, was devastated and left New Zealand scorned and upset.

It wasn’t until about 3 weeks ago that I started hearing rumors about Jason and Molly seeing each other on weekends he wasn’t with Melissa, which then started to make sense. Only problem, once again, is I can’t prove it. In fact, no one can other than Jason, Molly, and those closely involved with the show. And they’ll never admit to it because that makes them guilty. Especially when Jason denies to Melissa tonight he ever had contact with Molly in the two months he and her were engaged. I think he’s lying. C’mon, no guy would break off an engagement with someone in “hoping” that a girl he dumped two months earlier would give him a second chance. He had to be pretty confident Molly would take him back. And the only way that’s possible is if they had contact. C’mon people. Take off the blinders and think outside the box. It’s not that far fetched. This is a TV show. It’s drama. They can do whatever they want with these people once they sign up. Are you really believing these two never spoke in two months? Sure, they’re going to play it off as she’s shocked, she’s got a ton of questions, but she never stopped loving him and is willing to try, but just like the rest of the season, it just seems something is fishy about all this. I asked Megan in our interview point blank, “As a woman, if that were you, and you’d had no contact with the guy for two months, and he just dumped his fiance, would you take him back that quickly?” Megan’s response: “OMG. Are you crazy?”

Plus, Jasons story in all this is that he was in love with two women. Ok, I’ll even give you that, buddy. You love both of them. Up until that morning of the final rose ceremony, you’re completely torn about the two. So if you’re THAT conflicted about who to choose, why then a proposal? The “Bachelor” stipulates that you are by no means necessary forced to propose to someone. It’s encouraged, but you’re not obligated to. Yet again, I think he’s trying to please too many people here. ABC would like a proposal, so he gave them one. Melissa I’m sure would’ve loved to be proposed to, so he did. It just doesn’t make sense. The guy had a degree in psychology, am I right? How can he think proposing when he was that torn between two women would be the right idea? He will tell us til the end of time that he went with his heart, and truly thought Melissa and he would be together forever when he proposed. I’m sorry, but I don’t believe that. I will always believe Jason knew he wanted to be with Molly in the end and was told to pick Melissa in a plan that would lead to this “shocking” ending, and he agreed to do it.

As for his appearance on the “View” this past Friday, pretty bland. He didn’t say anything that surprised me. Of course he’s gonna say the show isn’t scripted. Uhhhh, admitting that it is would essentially kill the show as we know it. It’s funny, Jason first comes out and says, “Look, I know there’s tons of rumors floating around out there, I don’t even have time to read all them. They’re crazy. I don’t even follow what’s being said on the internet. BUT, I do want to kill one theory and that’s that the show is scripted. It’s not. This is completely real.” Gee, how convenient? He doesn’t follow any of the rumors going around, yet, he decides to squelch the one that’d be the most damaging to the show? How nice. It’s also funny that at the beginning of the season, he’s screaming from the mountaintops “I’m engaged! Yippee!” But all interviews recently, with “People”, the “View”, the “Women Tell All” show, and it’s, “I’m extremely happy. You’re just gonna have to watch and see what happens.” Very telling.

So I just wanted to get these thought out there before we watch everything tonight. I will definitely come back tomorrow with some more thoughts after watching, and will have the last part of the Megan interview up if its not up later tonight, plus, I’m working on some other things for this week. As for the emails, I’m still deciding on what to do. I want to see how tonight and tomorrow play out, and then I’ll make a decision. Any questions, comments, emails, praises, criticisms, last ditch crazy ass theories that you might have, feel free to email me at steve@realitysteve.com. Check back later today for the last half of the Megan interview. If not, it’ll be in tomorrow’s column. Until then. March 2nd is finally here! Woo hoo!

898 Comments

898 Comments

  1. owl

    March 3, 2009 at 2:08 AM

    #841 & 845 cubbieblue Kristen

    Excellent points! As I’m looking at the review on DVR it strikes me that the look I’m seeing on Chris face is one of elation! I would have missed this if you hadn’t have said something about his smirking.

    This sick puppy stuff here. If I didn’t know better he’s getting of on being the moderator of a major reality tv coup: the first engagement breakup.

    Oh very very sick. He’s smiling and this is just wrong.

    Are you seeing this too???

  2. alysonbrown13

    March 3, 2009 at 2:08 AM

    #804- I agree that Melissa knew something was up. They call her (according to RS) and fly her out there for an “emergency” taping of ATFR in which it is completely exclusive, with no audience and only herself, CH. Jason and the bitch… oh sorry, I meant Molly. But I don’t think she had any idea it was going to go down like that. She kept saying over and over that she didn’t understand why he couldn’t and didn’t want to fight for her and their relationship. I honestly think she thought she was coming on that set to talk about some of the problems that had, according to douchebag… oops, I meant Jason, had just SUDDENLY developed in the last 2 weeks. I don’t think she looked like she was acting at all, unlike everyone else who was there. I also really, really don’t think she had a clue that he was ending everything altogether. Jason said things had been different between them- on the phone- the last 2 weeks, but goodness knows as serious as Jason played this show out to mean in his life, I don’t think she ever expected that after he proposed, spent 2 months engaged to her and happy, and then began to act differently over 2 weeks time, that this would result in the nationally televised, humiliating and heartbreaking break-up of her engagement. I think she knew things were different over 2 weeks week time leading up to this filming, but I don’t think she had a clue that this would result in a sudden break off of her engagement. And Melissa isn’t scheduled, nor do I think she would accept any offer to be scheduled to do any other reality program after what happened to her here. So, I am confused at people (not you 804!) saying she was in on this too get another gig. What other gig?? Bachelorette has already gone to Jillian, though I would think Melissa would be offered this first immediately following the ATFR taping in January. I think she said no, which led to Jillian. I don’t think anyone can legitimately come up with any reason why Melissa would willingley subject herself to such humiliation, heartbreak and embarassment to come up empty at the end on all parts. If ABC included Melissa in their little plot, don’t you think it would have been with the precondition that she would indeed BE the next Bachelorette?? That’s not happening, and I think that Melissa was offered that and didn’t accept it. Not that Jillian isn’t fabulous, but Melissa was also LOVED by America and then crushed just as Jason was by Deanna last year. I would imagine after all this public outrage of what he did to her that she would have been the natural choice to be the next Bachelorette but obviously turned it down. I just don’t see what in the world Melissa could possibly have to gain from such an excruciating and embarassing event. I am Team Melissa on this stance 1000%. There is NO WAY she was in on this. She gained nothing and lost everything, pride included. She would have had to be crazy to do all of this on purpose to end up with nothing. Just my opinion, but I would put any amount of money on it.

    Also, I give Molly and Jason 2 months or less. Once a cheater (in this case, BOTH cheaters) always cheaters. I seriously cannot stand either one of them… equally.

  3. qusan

    March 3, 2009 at 2:09 AM

    I don’t think he and Molly will last long. First of all Jason is not a catch. Secondly, Molly is too young for him and really wanted to “win.” I think she will drop him like a hot potato sooner than later. He’s no prize.

  4. lila

    March 3, 2009 at 2:10 AM

    850 – He’s talking about 0 for 12 with the Bachelor

    Trista and Ryan were a part of the Bachelorette.

  5. whoknew

    March 3, 2009 at 2:13 AM

    Haven’t waded thru all the comments, but for those who think Mel knew something was up….for those of us who think Mol and J were seeing each other on Mel’s off weeks, I would think Mel (who loved J) could see the difference in J. He was having his hot ‘n heavy week-ends with Mol (we know how IMPORTANT the physical side of a relationship is to J –puke) – I would think Mel would be able to “feel” that something was wrong. I don’t think she realized exactly what that was. As for the engagement ring – I thought it was in the contract that it can’t be worn until after the show’s finale airs. So- this was filmed in Jan – finale aired tonight – she couldn’t wear it anyway.

    I really don’t think ABC/MF planned this – but they sure enjoyed jerka$$ handing them this gem. J and Mol are immature, selfish low-lifes. Mel had class and showed more maturity than the rest. And yea – I think Chris knew about everything because I think TB was taking care of the travel schedules for Mol and Mel.

  6. LisaC

    March 3, 2009 at 2:13 AM

    When Melissa is confronting J at the ATFR she insinuated that he is not being honest and that “something happened” and he only says “I am sorry” to her– she knows that it is fishy with him and Molly– she does NOT believe there has been no contact…

    ABC wants us to think this is an innocent change of heart and no lies and deceit were involved…. BS

    Jason and Molly definitely were in contact somehow– I agree with many that he would NEVER risk another rejection– his ego could not handle that!

    I am glad to know the truth (and what makes this season a disgusting disappointment for a hopeless romantic like me) even though there is not solid proof…

    Emails PLEASE RS!!!

  7. Mars

    March 3, 2009 at 2:14 AM

    So a person claiming to be Jason is on the abc boards right now. So is someone claiming to be Melissa. I believe them. It’s a very dirty place, but it’s cathartic to add a post to the scum king.

  8. lela

    March 3, 2009 at 2:14 AM

    852: What was in it for Melissa…….$$$$. Come on now. Someone you love breaks up (on national tv no less) and you get a bit angry then shed a fake tear or two. If it were me, I would have been sobbing and my choice of language would have been far stronger than bastard!

  9. DRAGONFLY

    March 3, 2009 at 2:14 AM

    I saw nothing remotely close to genuine from Ms. Molly tonight. She couldn’t keep the “I won” look off her face. Perhaps she should borrow Pageant Queen Nikki’s sash and crown for tomorrow night. “Can we have coffee or drinks” ,,,I call BS! The way she and Jason exited the stage made me seriously wonder if Host Chris had yet another Fantasy Suite card waiting for them.

    Best comment so far tonight: I wouldn’t believe anything that comes out of Jason’s mouth even if his tongue were notarized.

  10. christina87

    March 3, 2009 at 2:15 AM

    EMAILS!!!!!!!!!!! Jason is a prick, he deserves to be outed for who he really is. And I can’t believe ABC spun it that he just changed his mind….

    I wanted to throw up during the clip of Jason, Molly, and Ty running around on the beach. Give me a break!

  11. palm

    March 3, 2009 at 2:16 AM

    Did I miss something–I don’t think Deanna was asking for a second chance. She clearly was there to inject the concept of changing his mind in the “future.”

    I also must have missed the tent gifting part–that’s pretty disgusting.

  12. poopoo

    March 3, 2009 at 2:20 AM

    Oh! And Jason is not a victim of their turning him into a turd. He went along with it.

    Something curious I read on the web was that Melissa’s parents would not give their blessings and Melissa never had intentions of their relationship leading to marriage. Wonder what the details of this whole thing really are?

  13. Mars

    March 3, 2009 at 2:22 AM

    ^ Tent is tomorrow. And yeah Deanna was there to “ask” for another chance. But it was so scripted and fake I can understand why you missed it. Her heart was clearly not in it. She just wanted the free trip to NZ and whatever money they offered her. Again – so faaaake.

  14. cubbieblue Kristin

    March 3, 2009 at 2:23 AM

    778- YOU SAID to be honest I believe Melissa knew the script, when she 1st came on stage she said ” sooooooooooo ” then the repeated ‘ uh huh ‘ was obvious give away they weren’t getting along for quite awhile.
    ************************************
    Yeah Jason just said on Jimmy Kimmel that Melissa already knew something wasn’t right or that they had broken up b/c the question was “should she wear the ring or not.” So they already weren’t getting along prior to ATFR. But liar Jason claimed they were perfectly happy 2 wks before on the 1st Jimmy Kimmel taped at beg of Jan. Jason is a big fat liar!!! Plus who wants that guy.. he’lll be bald w/in 3 yrs with that receeding hairline. Plus he’s short and skinny. Not to mention and asshole on top of it!

  15. Mars

    March 3, 2009 at 2:25 AM

    ^ Tell me Jimmy didn’t let Jascum off the hook. Tell me he was grilled good!

  16. poopoo

    March 3, 2009 at 2:26 AM

    #861 i read Deanna’s comment that way too. But Jason kinda of reacted as if she was asking for another chance. I believe the generic scripting & Jason’s response was purposeful for people to take it either way so that here we are discussing it. They are pretty manipulative.

  17. Melanie222

    March 3, 2009 at 2:26 AM

    861 – Palm, I didn’t see the tent in the ATFR either.

  18. kydachs

    March 3, 2009 at 2:27 AM

    I’ve been reading RS blog for several weeks now and believed him. I didn’t want him to be right, but oh well. I am so glad I had time to prepare myself for this pathetic ending.

    WOW! I love reading all this bashing, it actually makes me feel a little bit better. So many post are what I wanted to say, you guys just take the words right out of my fingers. Thanks!

  19. owl

    March 3, 2009 at 2:30 AM

    #861 palm

    They did a nice job of leaving that open ended didn’t they?

    The tent gift was on RS’s blog from yesterday or the day before, I think? I really want to see if they go through with this…

    #855 whoknew

    I really think ABC/Fleis knew not just because of travels plans and set access, but because of Deanna’s part. There was also the timeline, the closed ATFR show, the precise editing and coreography and etc etc. Too many elements not to have a puppet master heavily involved. This thing was carefully crafted to do one thing: maximize ratings…and it did just that. Without a precise cocktail, the ratings wouldn’t have been so high.

  20. lila

    March 3, 2009 at 2:31 AM

  21. LaLa

    March 3, 2009 at 2:36 AM

  22. LaLa

    March 3, 2009 at 2:37 AM

    ooops! a lil too late wasnt I?

  23. alysonbrown13

    March 3, 2009 at 2:38 AM

    #862 and all others speculating on Melissa’s parents… as everyone knows there have been ZERO marriages as the result of the Bachelor, and I, for one, find it pretty respectable of them to not want to be on camera for all to see knowing that there was a big chance that she would not be chosen… and certainly not that she would be chosen just to be unchosen and mortified on national tv. I also think the phone call between Melissa and her Mom was completely legit and genuine. Did you see the state she was in when talking to her?? She was beside herself. I also think Jason spoke with them. Why in the world would they fake stupid phone calls when Jason, nor Chris, ever insinuated tonight or anytime after those calls that her Parents had anything to do with it. They didn’t want to be involved publicly, and in my opinion that also includes their private conversations with their daughter and potential son-in-law. I respect them for that and it ended up playing NO role in who he “picked” or why he dumped her. Especially if they spent “all the holidays” together. I very seriously doubt that they spent both Thanksgiving and Christmas without her family at either event. ABC could have ever-so-easily used the Parent thing against Melissa during the break0up but not one word was even about that. I think any speculation about her Parents is null and void at this point, and for that matter I think Melissa’s entire family is likely pleased that they opted to remain private about something that ended up the way this has. I think NOT becoming involved on Camera or Audio says nothing about them other than the fact that they were not interested in being in the public spotlight of this show where couples never work out anyways. I find that respectable and am pretty sure are grateful for making that choice right now. The parent card got played for a few episodes and was dropped as an issue after the phone call. If ABC wanted to they could have easily had Jason use that as part of his reasoning tonight, but he didn’t. So I think that argument is completely ridiculous and should be dropped from any speculation being made at this point.

  24. bachaddict

    March 3, 2009 at 2:41 AM

    Not only do I believe that Jason and Molly were in contact after leaving NZ, I bet Molly chased Jason down. Think about it, she was the agressor, more than once controlling their dates. She kept putting pressure on him to pick her, I thought. I see her as manipulative and high maintenance, and he’ll probably get more than he bargained for when his stupid infatuation over her “big gree? eyes” ends. I feel for sweet genuine Melissa, but she’s better off without a confused jerk like Jason. I hope she finds her true love,

  25. Melanie222

    March 3, 2009 at 2:44 AM

    Oh wait…DUH..it’s supposed to be tomorrow night…lol

  26. whoknew

    March 3, 2009 at 2:47 AM

    I’m going to bed – but not without first asking RS to RELEASE THE EMAILS, please! Prove that Mel was blindsided – Jason is out there saying that Mel knew things weren’t working out – and he sounds like he is blaming her. But then, men who cheat always blame their wife/fiance/girlfriend.

  27. CrazyWorld

    March 3, 2009 at 2:54 AM

    873 – I disagree sorry, I believe when a women is about to become very serious with a man whom she is accepting an engagement for marriage the parents should definately be more involved. If that were my daughter I’d be on him like crazy and drilled him days. No way I’d be satisfied with only a brief telephone conversation , would you if that were your beloved daughter ??.. That is why I said before, this is way too ‘ fishy ‘ Melissa’s parents behaviour is completely unorthodox with respect to the well being of a beloved daughter ! . From all the rumours I’ve seen on so many different boards and especially tonights program makes me very suspicious.. I’m now thinking this years TB has been ” FAKE” all along ! JMO

  28. paridy

    March 3, 2009 at 2:54 AM

    Hey Steve, Chris Harrison mentioned you in his blog again. He must really love you. LOL. I am so glad I was warned ahead of time. Seriously during Jason and Molly’s segment I was laughing my ass off, it was so scripted it was laughable. Rock on Steve.

  29. Mindreader

    March 3, 2009 at 3:09 AM

    This is a reality show? Well, Fleiss and company have certainly lost all touch with reality if they think this tawdry spectacle is what we’re just dying to see. How lucky were the producers to have poor spineless easily-led Jason to manipulate this year? Oh, well, he’ll probably be laughing all the way to the bank when it’s all over.

    Noticed an inconsistency tonight. When Jason told Melissa that things weren’t right between them, she said something like “What do you want me to say? I thought everything was perfect”. Then later Jason told Jimmy Kiimmel that he (Jason) and Melissa had talked about it and she knew something was wrong. At least get your story straight, Jason!!

    Wow, wasn’t Molly just a little too eager to get back with Jason? After all, she was the one rejected at the FRC and hadn’t even been in contact with him for six weeks. (wink wink)

    Seeing Jason and Molly kissing only a short while after he’d dumped Melissa in public was truly one of the most cringe-worthy moments I’ve had for a very long time. Talk about throwing people under the bus, they don’t seem to realize how this show has damaged their images.

    And finally, a tip for M. Fleiss: Hire a new showrunner. This one sucks.

  30. owl

    March 3, 2009 at 3:16 AM

    #871 Thanks for the Link.

    Folks Chris Harrison’s blog is INCREDIBLE. You will have to read this for yourselves and draw you own conclusions.

    Interesting tidbits I gleaned:

    Chris steadfastly denies that Molly had any contact with Jason after the final and before the ATFR #1 and his proof is that they wouldn’t have used the Bachelor’s home town before the airing for any meeting. He chastizes anyone for thinking anything else. He is certain that the first time Molly saw Jason after the final was at the ATFR 1.

    Chris says he likes Melissa and that they are good friends. They have talked many times before the airing of ATFR 2. When he and his wife go back home Dallas the first person they will visit is Melissa and all have a cold one.

    Chris says that this was totally Jason’s decision.

    There is stuff in there to about the leaker and how it hurts Jason Molly & Melissa and while normally he wouldn’t care, he cares about them and draws the line at that. He’s dismissive but clearly angry because of his friends.

    Chris incredibly states that Melissa was not blindsided. She knew their relationship had issues (ok-that’s probably true, especially if their are emails which Steve has referred to) Did she know about the breakup? Chris said he doesn’t know that; we should ask her or the top secret source. WOW. That’s pretty heartless. The he defends the show by saying that everything that goes on in a show is public and that everyone involved knows this. (I think he is basically stating that its just business-nothing personal. WOW. I guess this makes the decision to show an engagement breakup on National TV ok to do)

    Any opinions on this????

    Steve–please release the emails. There is no doubt in my mind after watching ABC’s scriptfest that they don’t care about Melissa and are really intimating that Melissa is to blame for some of this while not coming out and saying it. Molly’s not having contact with Jason is pure crap. Maybe Chris didn’t know about it-that’s possible, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

  31. javajolt

    March 3, 2009 at 3:27 AM

    Good job RS! Even knowing all It was still very shocking how it all went down and you are dead on! BTW I am 100% convinced Molly totally knew something at the ATFR come on, she is a terrible actress, it was not authentic in any way!!!!!! Again Kudos for reporting the truth and opening my eyes. Saves me a lot of time. Keep up the good work since we still have a lot of upcoming interviews!

  32. owl

    March 3, 2009 at 3:29 AM

    Another point. Its really clear now the path ABC is taking:

    This is all Jason’s doing. Jason if he’s smart since he’s taking serious heat, will point back to the producers that its their doing and he followed orders. For what its worth. I do believe he was told by ABC to annouce the breakup at the ATFR#1. I won’t comment cause it would take forever about the morality of Jason’s doing this, only to say fairly I think that’s how it went down.

    What’s upsetting is that ABC is clearly roping Melissa into her share of this by not stating whether or not she knew about the breakup on National TV before Jason officially told him. If they can state emphatically that there was no contact between Molly and Jason, then they should be able to pin this down too.
    They seem more concerned about Molly’s rep than Melissa’s.

    Its always the same story, Melissa’s partially to blame for the breakup because 2 people are involved and she’s the loser. In this case, I think that’s cow-pocky. Melissa was played by ABC at the expense of ratings. Its the only thing that explains all the pieces, like Deanna etc especially since we knew about it ALL before it aired thanks to RS.

  33. Calico

    March 3, 2009 at 3:37 AM

    Kate-First of all as a friend of Molly’s please don’t read the following post!

    The manipulation and scriptedness? of the episodes tonight were PAINFULLY obvious!

    Jason sucks and is the WORST bachelor ever!

    That being said,I am trying to think of any possible reasoning behind the ‘public’ breakup.What I mean is WHY did they need to have poor Mel being televised as she got the axe from JaSOB?

    Here’s my rationale:
    JaSOB couldn’t get Molz out of his head (or loins,or whatever), so he starts seeing her on the sly(with abc’s permission).He soon realizes that he HAS to have her back,and asks her to be his after his contract is up with Mel.

    Molz says well that can only happen IF you dump her as publicly as you did me.So JaSOB has to do it on tv so to satisfy Molz demands.

    J tells abc that he NEEDS this to be televised and abc is like ‘wow, now we’re talkin, this is something we can really hype for a ratings bonanza’.

    Molz is very controlling and DOES NOT like to lose.
    In a very sick and twisted way she thought it would vindicate her,and act like she’s the one who should have been chosen all along.

    I know this may sound harsh and a little off the wall, but honestly it is all I kept thinking during the ATFR.

    Anyone??

  34. CrazyWorld

    March 3, 2009 at 3:40 AM

    Omg, please tonight was all ” FAKE” , nobody was innocent and that includes Jason, Melissa & Molly !! ..

  35. owl

    March 3, 2009 at 3:45 AM

    #883 Calico

    That’s a possibility I hadn’t consider, that Molly would request Jason break up publically. WOW.

    She certainly wants to win bad enough and has a high opinion of herself. Its cold but possible. Molly & Jason’s relationship is already going to be something difficult with all this backlash….

  36. Calico

    March 3, 2009 at 3:50 AM

    Owl- yeah, and I forogt to add that she probably told JaSOB that she WOULD NOT wait until the usual Bach engagement grace period was up.

    If he wanted her back it would be ‘now,and as public as possible’.IMO

    Molz can lead him through hoops,lol, and maybe did.

  37. alysonbrown13

    March 3, 2009 at 4:02 AM

    #877- there were 2 major holidays that Jason and Melissa spent together, 3 if you include New Years. he MET the family, just not on tv. That’s their perrogative, and while I would agree with you if they had been walking down the aisle a month after the proposal, I do not because they did have time to spend with each other’s families. According to both of them, the holidays went great. Melissa’s parents had both time and opportunity off camera to spend time with Jason and that apparently went well enough for that NOT to be raised as any kind of issue whatsoever on the ATFR show tonight. There are plenty of question marks about what really went down, but the Parents have not been raised as one of these issues. They just didn’t want to be on Camera or Audio. That doesn’t sound fishy to me at all… it sounds normal for a show like this. They were more than willing to spend time with him after the show when cameras weren’t rolling, and at the major Holiays of the whole year no less. Calling her parents into question isn’t the issue. Melissa herself wasn’t even the issue- Jason at least said that much on ATFR tonight. Jason and his huge ego and lack of compassion for anyone other than himself is to blame here. There’s just no need to bring her family into the mix when neither Melissa or Jason did tonight. It’s just not fair to Melissa or her Family to suggest that was a factor when it was never even brought up tonight. If it was my beloved daughter, of course I would want to meet him and get to know him, but if it was on a tv show for all the world to see I don’t know if I could agree to that. He spent half a day with each of the families and I don’t think spending that time with her friends because her parents didn’t want to be on tv is fishy at all. This show takes, what… 2 months to film? There was a great deal of time following the filming where they all spent time together. If her parents didn’t approve don’t think Jason wouldn’t have included that it his empty arsenal of reasons why it didn’t work out. Just because they didn’t want to be on camera doesn’t mean that they don’t love their daughter unconditionally… it just means they didn’t want to be on camera! They met him after and due to the holidays they likely spent more time with him than half a day, which is what the rest of the girls got. I just think the Parent argument is silly at this point, as it had nothing to do with the end result tonight. Just my opinion…

  38. Chrissy

    March 3, 2009 at 5:17 AM

    Wow. I can’t even put into words how disgusted I am about all of this. I was hoping Steve would be wrong and Jason would pick Melissa, end of story. Not the case. I’m embaressed for being from the same state (WA). Ugh! I feel so bad for Melissa, I hope she is doing well. My best to her.

    Did anyone realize that in the interview with Kimmel, Jason seemed to be throwing Melissa under the bus a bit? He kept stating that she knew, and the chemistry btwn them had changed after the cameras were off. As if she was there for the wrong reasons? Or maybe because after Molly was saying “I think you made a mistake, she is not good for you, shes not here for the right reasons” yadda yadda… that he couldn’t let go of that or made that the MAIN target as to why to dump Melissa later on? Anyway, that interview was like a sports event, Jason on the defensive side thru it all. What a jerk. He became the most liked Bachelor into the most hated/disliked. I hope he can live with himself after this. ha!

    Imagine if Ty asks/ed for Melissa while Molly was around. It seemed pretty clear that they has a straight and instant connection. [ty and mel ]. Poor kiddo, my heart goes out to him.

    Before tonight I didn’t vote on Steve to release the emails, but oh gosh, I hope he does. Maybe he can talk to Melissa and ask for her approval? hmm.

    oh and BARF at the Molly And Jason kiss. GAG!!!!!!!

    anyway, thanks steve!! kisses to maddie!

  39. dale88jr

    March 3, 2009 at 2:48 PM

    Email from Jason and Melissa

    Since I’m at work and shouldn’t even be on here (but how can I stay away???) I don’t know if this has been posted yet or not. RS said he might post the emails….well someone has posted them – here’s the site:

    http://bachelor13.wordpress.com/

    Not sure if they are real or not – just passing it on

  40. jasonlies

    March 3, 2009 at 4:41 PM

    I wish that someone would ask Jason and Molly if they would take a lie detector test on live TV, just to see how they would react.

    I hope both of those girls are getting paid a nice sum, because when this all turns to crap at least they’ll have some change to hold onto. Whatever really happened, it’s crystal clear that this guy has no idea what he wants. You don’t have to go on national TV to meet a guy like that, ladies.

  41. deeswyt

    March 3, 2009 at 5:08 PM

    First of all, I honestly think that Melissa really was not in love with Jason. I believe that after the show, Melissa began to show her realy colors and Jason just didn’t like the real Melissa.

  42. disturbed

    March 4, 2009 at 1:02 AM

    i don;t know who wrote it, but someone mentioned how chris asked molly how shes been dealing with people’s reactions for the past few weeks…when the show aired LAST NIGHT!
    obviously refering to steve.

  43. Harleygurl

    March 4, 2009 at 8:57 AM

    I think Jason is a real douch bag! How could you dump someone on National TV.. and Secondly, don’t propose if you are not sure.. does he have sh*t for brains?! I mean common sense would tell you that. Melissa didn’t deserve that and Molly is ugly and I hope she likes being second choice.

  44. monicalynn

    March 4, 2009 at 9:34 AM

    Thanks for sharing all of your wonderful insights with us. I’m glad I found this blog and I will come back often to read the juicy tidbits and hilarious comments.

    I stopped watching TB after Trista and Ryan’s season. I allowed myself to get sucked back in by ABC. Jason seemed like the perfect bachelor. He was sensitive, a divorced father helping to raise a toddler, and he was rejected by DeAnna. I couldn’t wait to see how this season played out.

    To say I am disappointed is an understatement.

    -Chris Harrison is an arrogant a**. His sarcastic blogs are a joke. I can’t wait to read about his new, young hip replacement this summer.

    -Jason Mesnick is a weak, attention seeking man wh*re. I think he got what he deserved, Molly. I give their ‘relationship’ another 3 days tops.

    I know everyone involved signed a contract and knew that this was reality tv, BUT this time tptb went too far. There is no coming back from this fiasco.

    **Molly, karma is a bit*h and so are you!!

  45. LizKay

    March 4, 2009 at 10:54 AM

    Hey qusan…..you are 100% right. Couldn’t agree more. My thought about Molly, very early in the show, was that she was a woman who wanted to WIN…..no matter what. Remember how she pulled Jason away from someone, even though she already had a rose? Sol, now she ‘won’ (cough, cough…..if you could call Jason a prize), and as soon as the hype dies down and she realizes what she’s gotten herself into, she’ll get sick of him and move on. Personally, I can’t wait. My guess is that they won’t last till April Fools Day. :-)

  46. Remmie

    March 4, 2009 at 12:14 PM

    Jason’s going to be on Bonnie Hunt on Monday, and she (and apparently her whole staff) is pissed at him. She said today that you can go to the Bonnie Hunt Show website to submit questions you want her to ask him. RS…you HAVE to write in!!!

  47. lilygirl

    March 4, 2009 at 12:24 PM

    JerseyGirl, You hit the nail on the head.

    There is NO way that ABC could have compelled Jason to “break-up” with Melissa on tv. A contract may say that certain things have to be public, maybe even something along the lines of saying that in case of a break-up, ABC has the first bite at breaking the news or an interview. But NO court would uphold a contract that had as a clause that you must go on a network and breakup publicly. I know there are a lot of people defending Jason. But if you really pay attention to everything that has happened, even without having read any blogs or leaks, you have to acknowlrdge that certain things just don’t fit.

    1. Assuming Jason did not feel the chemistry was right between him and Melissa, why did he immediately have to run adn tell ABC? Chris Harrison said on his blog that Jason called him and said things weren’t the same and that he was thinking about Molly. In the contract. it may state that you have to give an update of your relationship, but come on. We have all been in relationships. Is there any way you would tell a 3rd party more about your relationship, even if by contract you were suppose to give them updates, than letting your partner know? Why in God’s name would ABC be the first place you run to with your relationship issues? If this is a real relationship you are trying to work out, you don’t add fuel to the fire by informing ABC that they may have something explosive on their hands. You would probably give it more than a few weeks. Even if Jsaon knew it wasn’t going to work out with Melissa, if he still really cared about her as he claims, he wouldn’t have done this.

    2. Jason says that he HAD to break up with Melissa on tv. I know contract law and I know this is crap. Then he says Melissa said she knew they weren’t together before the taping. So which is it Jason? You either broke up with her before the taping, and then just pretended to at the taping, which means you guys were ACTING, OR you went on national television and broke up with your fiance without warning her, which I’ve already said, ABC couldn’t have complelled you to do. Either way, you are a tool. And even if ABC lead you to believe that you had to, if you had cared even the tiniest bit about sparing Melissa’s feelings, then you could have talked to an independent lawyer about your contract.

    There are other things, but I have to get to work. I would like to point out that I have no idea if Jason, Melissa, and/or Molly were in on any or all parts of this fiasco. My observations are assuming Melissa and Molly were not, since according to ABC this is “real life.” These are observations made assuming ABC is being truthful. Now if they are paid actors that’s a whole ‘nother thing. Given the evidence provided solely by ABC it’s really hard to believe Jason had absolutely pure intentions. I don’t think I’m a judgmental person. Hey, choose Molly over Melissa. I don’t care why. Don’t give your relationship a chance with Melissa, that’s totally your call. I’m just pointing out inconsistencies in what has come out of Jason’s own mouth.

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