That Was Pathetic to Watch. Really, It Was.
No need to gloat really. I told you what their shocker was going to be on January 27th, and it happened. Doesn’t matter how I know, who told me, or how it all came to be. The bottom line was I ruined ABC’s surprise for the season and I’m glad I did. Especially after that abortion they showed us on television last night. I will be honest with you and say I’m sick to my stomach. I mean, the two hour finale was nothing. We all knew what was happening there. But that ATFR show was downright painful. I felt AWFUL for Melissa. Still do. The debate will rage on from this day forward what you want to believe about Jason and Molly’s performance. Was he put up to this? When did he know? When did Molly know and what did she know? That’s all up for each individual to decide. Judging by the message boards and my comments, seems like we’re running about 99% in favor of Jason being named King A-Hole sometime in the near future. Hey, you know all my answers to this. No need to go over it again. Fifty years from now when I’m asked about the Jason Mesnick season of the “Bachelor”, I will firmly believe he was told to do this and agreed to it to create this shocking finale. And no matter what BS Chris Harrison wants to whine about in his blog today, or how many times Jason and Molly want to deny they’ve never contacted each other in the two months he was engaged to Melissa, or how ABC now admits, “Well, we expected it to get leaked”, NOTHING will change my belief of what went down this season.
So basically what I want to mention today is Chris Harrisons blog, and an email I received last week from a completely different source than the ones who gave me all my other information. Lets start with Chris, since apparently he has a hard on for me now. I love how its killing him that he constantly has to address the rumors that I started, yet won’t mention me by name. Hey Chris, how about the fact that in US Weekly last week, not only are they quoting me, but also the “source close to production” that echoed everything I said? Why am I the bad guy here? How about you guys start checking under your own noses for leaks. Hell, the “source close to production” said a hell of a lot more than I did in that article. And oh yeah, all of it was true again. Apparently Fleiss and the gang are all super sleuths now because, according to Chris, “we know how that happened and we know who’s responsible.” Ummm, I hate to tell them this, but they don’t seem to know much of anything. And there’s more than one person leaking stuff considering the email I’m going to show you later on in this post I had never even heard from until five days ago.
Chris is also shoveling the BS that because they’re a TV show, and because they always want their audience to know, good or bad, what’s going on, that’s the reason they televised the break up. According to Chris, “the fact is everybody knows when they sign up for this show everything about their story will be public. It’s a TV show and that is not a big secret. They are well aware of what they got into.” Oh, so that makes it right? That’s just sickening. Go sell that somewhere else. I can’t believe they’re trying to justify televising the public embarrassment of Melissa with a “Hey, that’s just TV. They know what they sign up for.” Well, I guess if these contestants actually read their contracts they would. But half of them just want to be on TV, they don’t realize that they are signing their life away so you can embarrass, humiliate, defame and portray their character in any way you choose, without one ounce of responsibility falling on ABC and the production company. Trust me. I’ve read the contract. I have that in my possession too. The show is f***in sick joke. I had no idea the lengths they go to in that contract to make sure ABC and the production team aren’t held liable for anything that happens on this show. It’s unfreakinbelievable. Yet, we’re supposed to believe this is “real human emotion?” Please.
Chris says that Melissa was not blindsided and that she knew when she arrived at the taping, because of the talks her and Jason were having as of late, that it just wasn’t working. Chris says he doesn’t know if Melissa knew she’d be getting dumped on the show, and that you’d have to ask her. Well, Jason said on Jimmy Kimmel last night that Melissa and him were broken up by the time they arrived at the ATFR taping, and the only question he had was was she going to wear her ring there. So which is it? Were they broken up or not? And Jason, if you and Melissa were already broken up, like you admitted last night on Jimmy Kimmel’s show, THEN WHY THE HELL DID YOU HAVE TO DO A WHOLE SONG AND DANCE AND GO THROUGH THE BREAKUP YET AGAIN??? You guys were broken up. Fine. Move on. But for thirty minutes, we have to sit there and listen to you do it over again while cameras were rolling? Look, ABC can claim they’re gonna show everything, but please. We all know why that ATFR was filmed. Because they knew they had an ending they’d never had before, and they knew they had an ending they could promote as a “shocker” and “one of the best we’ve ever had.” Can you believe that? You wanna know how little Mike Fleiss and ABC thinks of Melissa? The fact that they promoted last nights finale as the “best we’ve ever had.” It was? I’m sure if you ask Melissa that, she’ll tend to disagree. For shock value, utter embarrassment, disgust, and pure cruelty, yeah sure, best ending you’ve ever had. You don’t give a crap about how Melissa feels as long as 11 million people are watching I guess. Appalling.
The reason they’re saying they decided to film it was because at the time of the ATFR 1 taping, they were a few weeks into the show, still six weeks away from the finale, and they’ve gotten word that their happy couple is now on the rocks. So what do they do? Chris says, “Do we let all of America just keep going along with this happy little fairytale only to find that in the end it all blew up a month and a half prior? It’s not like Jason was breaking up with Mel and just going away. He was asking for a shot with the girl you saw him break up with in New Zealand.” So they figured by taping the ATFR show, they would let America see what happened between their engaged couple. Ok, fine. Problem is, Jason didn’t say sh**. He went from spinning Melissa around, telling her he loved her 100 times in a row, telling Molly “I think you’re wrong” when she told him he was making a mistake, to him just saying, “Uhhh, things changed. Chemistry changed.” Can we get some examples here? This is your fiancé supposedly, not some bimbo you dragged home from the bar. Of course Melissa was pissed, this douche broke off an engagement because why? I still don’t have an answer. Well, other than the one I will always believe which is, there wasn’t an answer. He was just being told what to do.
They’re still trying to shove the “these are real people trying the best they can to deal with real issues.” I’ll give you that its real people. Finally, something truthful. As far as I know, this show hasn’t gone the way of casting androids, but I’m guessing that’ll probably be up Fleiss’ sleeve next season. “Watch Jillian pick from a pool of 25 computer generated d-bags with no human emotion whatsoever!” I might actually tend to believe the “real issues” part if Jason could’ve actually given us examples why he couldn’t last more than two months with his fiancé that he was sooooooooo in love with when he left New Zealand. The whole thing just doesn’t make sense. Once again, if you’re that conflicted in New Zealand, and Jason made a point to tell us a zillion times that he fell in love with two women, well, then how can he propose to one over the other? That’s completely illogical and narrow minded. “Well, its because that day I believed Melissa was the one for me.” Too convenient. That’s such a cop out answer. Totally left the door open for what he eventually ended up doing.
I just want you people to see here that there’s more than meets the eye. When Jason was on with Kimmel last night, they talked about the last time he was on, which was during the first week of the show, so around Jan. 5th. Kimmel asked him point blank, “Were you engaged then?” Jason said, “Yes. Melissa and I were engaged and things were great.” So, if the ATFR 1 taping was on or around Jan. 18th, and two weeks prior on Kimmel you guys were engaged and things were great, that doesn’t leave much of a window for that engagement to go to hell in a handbasket to the point where you call it off because you want to try and get back in Molly’s pants. So you either lied to Kimmel in the first week of January that things were great, or, you just lied in general about the whole relationship since you were never as in love with her as you claim to be. I will always believe the latter. One last note about Jason before moving on to Molly. Jason told us at the ATFR 1 taping before Melissa came out, “I care so much for Melissa that I need to talk to her.” On national television? Really? Apparently you guys were talking privately and were having problems, and according to you, were already broken up. Hmmm, nice guy. “Hey, I know we’re broken up, but ummmm, since ABC didn’t have any footage of it, think we could gather you up to fly out here and we can get this so 11 million people can see for themselves? Thanks. You’re a trooper.’ How Melissa didn’t punch him in the face during that taping is beyond me.
As for Molly, look, we can go back and forth all day every day for the next century trying to figure out what she knew and when she knew it. Only about four people know the honest answer to this, and they’ll never tell us the truth anyway. Hey, a few of you asked me last week why haven’t any former contestants who were on the show years ago ever come out and said anything if this is all so scripted and manipulated. Ummmm, because they can’t. If there’s nothing else you take from this column today, I want you to take this bit of info. As you know, all contestants are under contract with ABC for a year from when their finale airs. But that only covers interviews, appearances, etc. Everything has to run through ABC. So yeah, Megan didn’t really do that when she got the interview with me, but, that’s ok. Some decide they’re pissed off at ABC enough they’ll do what they please. And she did. However, and I can’t stress this enough, every contestant who’s ever appeared on this show signs a LIFETIME confidentiality agreement which essentially states that you can never give away the show secrets or else you can get sued for $5 million.” Oh yeah, I have that contract in my possession also. So why do you think in sixteen seasons, not one person has written a tell all book? Because they can’t. So that’s why you’ll hear stuff on message boards, from friends, etc. These people talk. They tell friends and family and what not, but nothing will ever publicly get traced back to them or else they’re in deep sh**. So if you have nothing to hide, and everything about this show is clean, forthright, honest, and truthful, why is everyone part of this show threatened with a $5 million lawsuit if they ever speak publicly about what really goes on? I’d say that’s pretty telling.
So that’s where I’m essentially banging my head against the wall. I can’t prove any of this, and they’ll never admit to it. If they do, their show is yanked for being a complete farce. So ABC/Jason/Molly/Fleiss and Chris Harrison to a certain extent, are the ones who have to wake up in the morning and look at themselves knowing where the real truth lies in all of this. Will we ever know? Probably not. But all I want to do is get everything out there for the public to see and have them make their own decision. Judging by the emails I’ve gotten and response, it sounds like people are starting to catch on. However, it’s not like I think the show is going anywhere. If not, they’ll thrive off this and continue to produce more crap for us to watch. And yes, I’ll be front and center watching and writing about it. More on that tomorrow. And oh yeah, Molly, when Jason told you to your face in New Zealand, “I love someone else more” and “I think you’re wrong”, when you told him he was making a mistake, that was awfully quick of you to either forget or forgive him for saying that. Not ten minutes after this guy lets his fiance go last night, does he and the girl that he dumped in New Zealand have their tongues jammed down each others throat. Really? You couldn’t wait til maybe you got off stage or something? Yeah, and they had NO contact in those two months? Uh huh. And I’ve been wrong about everything since Jan. 27th.
So, since that time in January, I’ve been giving more and more information little by little that’s all proven to be true. I’ve had a few minor details wrong, but basically for the most part, I’ve told you what to expect this season. Well, last Wednesday I got this random email from someone who claimed to work in LA. I verified it based on the information given, but obviously I will keep their occupation private. This person then proceeded to tell me they have contacts over at ABC, and those contacts essentially had a map of how things went this season on the show. Well, here is that email. This was sent last Wednesday, and obviously you can see most of this stuff ended up playing out. I’m showing it to you because this was never my original source. In fact, Id never even gotten an email from this person EVER until five days ago. So this is what someone at ABC is leaking to their friends, who then passed it on to me. Here’s what they wrote:
“Ok, so let me break it all down for you as I understand it:
Absolute fact:
1) Jason proposes to Melissa in NZ
2) Jason sees Melissa roughly twice a month from end of NZ (they stayed three days together after FRC) to the emergency taping
3) Jason tells Melissa it is over.
4) Melissa flips out. Screams. Yells. Cries. Calls him a bunch of names, etc. etc. Basically a total meltdown.
5) The second ATFR is like normal. Jason/Molly happy, Melissa okay — it was all for the best, yadda. though obviously I don’t know the exact language.
The following things I’m going to tell you are more complex than stone-cold fact, however I trust my source and STRONGLY believe that everything I’m about to tell you is true because I mean…some of it is too unbelievable and detailed to just pull out of total fabrication.
1) Your interview with Megan, which I listened to late yesterday, corraborated what I had heard about Melissa. She was a bubbly spit fire, however she barely spoke to Jason for the first week.
2) Jason made an instant connection with Molly, and despite her poor edit there are several things during the season (tent date, long walk alone in Seattle) that point to that fact. Yet, it wasn’t over the top because that is not Molly’s personality.
3) Just prior to the Final Five, Jason informed producers that Molly was the one.
4) The plan was formed. Producers asked Jason who he liked second best and he told them he had taken interest in Melissa — had a lot going for her, sweet, attractive, etc. They told him to bring her to the Final Two, pick her at the FRC for drama and that she would get America’s love and attention — aka a set up for The Bachelorette. They convinced Jason that he would do no irrevocable harm to Melissa, because she would get the popularity.
5) I can tell you with almost 100% certainty that Melissa fell in love with Jason. In fact, my source said that is who Chris Harrison and the rest were “cheering for and were happy when they saw her bond with Ty.” Period. Nothing else is true. Melissa fell in love with Jason, the staff saw it and rooted for it and were happy for them.
6) Which leads to this fact. Only three people (Mike Fleiss, another top-level showrunner (Martin), and Jason) knew about the plan until AFTER THE FRC. Immediately after the FRC, Chris H and the rest of the staff was informed of the plan and what would go down at the ATFR. No idea how they reacted, and really it isn’t a big part of the story.
7) Immediately after Jason returned to Seattle he got in touch with producers and they put him in touch with Molly. Molly did NOT know about this plan before the FRC, but DID know about it just several days after the FRC. How do you think she was able to take him back? Because she knew. My guy also told me she will play this off at the ATFR as, “Jason is a good man who was in a high pressure situation. Once he got away from the camera, his heart changed. And I loved him.”
Now, this is the slightly disturbing part but my source said he heard this from reliable people. Remember that I said Melissa was head over heels in love. She saw Jason every other weekend and told Jason she was planning on moving out to Seattle, loved Ty, wanted to start a family. Jason made all of this seem great. He is playing the game, before finally realizing after one of these “heart to hearts” that Melissa was seriously falling for him.
9) He called the producers and they moved up the show for him but told him he had to do it, per the agreed “twist”, on camera.
10) Hence everything you will see at the ATFR show.
If you have any questions, let me know. But it’s pretty self-explanatory. My source said that ATFR was still in post-production until either earlier this week or late last week. I have no idea how they will spin it, but they will for damage control.
How does the truth get into the mainstream? You said something about some mysterious e-mails before. That would help. As would someone saying “sue me, I’m talking.” From what I’m told Melissa is “better” but still is taking this very hard.
No idea if she will follow the company line on Ellen and the talk show circuit. Also, the whole parents thing was way overblown. They just were private people and didn’t want to participate. I’ve heard they are very religious. Not sure what that has to do with being private. But they just didn’t want to be on the show. No other conspiracy theory to that.
Hope you enjoy the carnage. Because it is coming!”
So just so we’re clear here. This email was sent from someone at ABC to a buddy, who then passed it along to me. So when Chris Harrison talks about they know where the leaks are coming from and know who’s responsible, I’d say they don’t. So just wanted to add this fuel to the fire that more people knew about this than ABC wanted to believe. I was just the only one to come out with it as early as I did. Doesn’t matter who told me, how many people were involved, or how I got it, the fact is I wanted to beat ABC to the punch on their “shocker” for this season, and I did. I’ve never done that in the 15 seasons I’ve been covering this show because, well, I’d never gotten tipped off like this before. I’m sure they’re not happy because this was going to be their gem, and they definitely didn’t want the public forming an opinion before the finale but, oops. Sorry.
I would like nothing more than to speak with Melissa so we can get an answer to a lot of these questions. Put it this way, she knows I’m looking for her. The invitation is out there. All she has to do is accept it. And what better place to come to share your story than here, where all I want to do is get the truth out. I feel the public has been misled enough by this show, and seeing Melissa get taken behind the woodshed last night was gut wrenching to watch. Something tells me however that she is done with this whole process and would just like to move on. Of course she doesn’t want to be the next Bachelorette. Would you after what just happened to you? Melissa was the perfect candidate. She has America behind her, she’s likable, she’s cute, and she already has a built in audience. There’s a reason Jillian is out next Bachelorette. It’s because Melissa doesn’t want any part of this mockery any more. And can you blame her?
I’m still working on transcribing the Megan interview, so I’ll have that up in a couple days. As for the Jason and Melissa email conversation done after the ATFR 1 taping was held, I still haven’t decided if I’m going to release them. I’m leaning one way right now, but I’ll have a definitive answer in the next day or two. Until then, enjoy tonights fluff piece as ABC tries to shove down our throat “Hey, Jason’s just living his life and don’t be mad at him for following his heart.” Blech. Makes me want to vomit. The guy made his own bed and now he should have to lie in it. And going on Jimmy Kimmel and immediately becoming defensive about what he did isn’t helping his cause much either. Back tomorrow with more stuff. Any questions, comments, emails, praises, criticisms, or more Jason/Molly backlash, email me at steve@realitysteve.com. And please, don’t be offended or keep sending emails if I don’t get back to you. I get and read ALL your emails. I just have to pick and choose which ones to respond to due to the 200-300 or so a day I’ve been getting recently. Thanks for your patience. Enjoy tonight. If that’s possible.
Yeah how did Jason turn into that man? Girly man is right. Too sad but hey at least we all saw his true colors this time around. Deanna however, would have worn the pants as well in that relationship. I cannot believe that she chose Jesse. I do think that Jason and Deanna would have been good together. Jason is kind of a pussyfoot in many ways. Ohwell that is my last post for this season of the Bachelor. Maybe they will get married, maybe they won’t. But not until Molly’s daddy says they can marry……LOL. Ciao.
The Bachelor people will be on Ellen the next three days. I think Chris Harrison is today, then Melissa on Thursday and Jolly (Jason/Molly) on Firday.
Sorry, I meant Friday.
#599
Totally believe what you say about the cursing out session. Mel apologizing in her email for getting so upset didn’t seem to fit with the relatively little anger she showed in the edit. The first time I watched it I felt that something had been removed because at the start of her first rant, she had gone from being silent to sounding as if she was heated and had been yelling for some time.
#595
Very plausible explanation. Where did you get that Fleiss was talking to Molly prior to taping ATFR1? Molly giving Jason an ultimatum would certainly explain the “emergency taping”, and perhaps the producers were emphatic about Jason breaking up with Mel on camera because he was interfering with their plans of using (sense the play on words) Molly as the next Brette.
I watched the first ATFR again last night. They edited the crap out of J and Mel’s convo. I wish I could see the uncut version, because I think that Mel may have really gone off on him much more than we were shown. If you watch it, she is tearing up and then no tears, there is one shot of Jason talking that is from his one on one talk with Chris (I even rewound it to make sure). I think they really cut and pasted that together. I’m sure they were still trying to save their precious bachelor’s image, even though they wanted to show Mel getting her digs in.
#604
I’m guess that #595 got it here. Fleiss is doing major damage control. LOL. Reality Steve has really got them spinning. They protesteth too much.
http://tvwatch.people.com/2009/03/03/bachelor-creator-the-outcome-was-never-planned/
Bottom line is this, going into the AFR everyone knew what was going to go down and I believe they wanted to capture it on tape to they made it a contractual thing. As Steve says, hate the player, not the game. You can’t tell me Melissa thought they were absolutely in love and there was nothing wrong or she wouldn’t have been so prepared to grill him like she did.
It was a 6 week relationship, Melissa will be healed and move on. Someone as nice as her is sure to grab the right guy now that she has all this attention thrusted on her. I wouldn’t doubt by Christmas well get word of her hooking up with some really nice guy (hello Brian from DeAnna’s season…now’s your chance!).
Jason and Molly, well, if it’s true what Steve says and Jason wanted her all along, then time will tell if they were meant to be. I wish them the best and don’t blame them for this mess ABC created surrounding them.
For seasons now I’ve known this is a scripted show here to entertain us (like Big Brother and the ringers they cast every season). If you are so apalled by this show, stop watching it, stop going to message boards and talking about it. Move on. Otherwise, you are givng ABC exactly what they want, a huge buzz about their show and while you think it was morally distasteful that is what Hollywood is all about.
I don’t know if this has been posted yet but the website below has posted Jason and Melissa’s e-mails.
http://www.accesshollywood.com/bachelor-finale-fallout-melissa-and-jasons-e-mail-conversation-revealed_article_15135
Another few?
Mesnickulous 1. Spinning mesnicking out of control. 2. Denying acts of obvious mesnicking.
Fleiss’ mesnickulous behavior was outrageous.
Mesnicutious 1. Excusing acts of mesnicking. 2. Giving alibis to cover for acts of mesnicking
Fleiss’ article in People was clearly mesnicutious.
If I ever hear the phrase “follow my heart” again I may have to throw up.
I miss “be one with the hula hoop”.
Here is something to consider: douche bag said that he was basically told that he had to break up with Melissa on tv because he agreed to have this portion of his life public and that he had contractual obligations to do so…if that’s the case, how has every other bachelor managed to break up with their pick off camera?
There is the argument that he would have had to at least make it through the first after the rose before he annouced that they weren’t together BUT if he really was the great guy that we all thought he was, he could have broken up with her the day after the final rose instead of humiliating him…unless it was all planned from the get go. It’s all lies, every other bachelor can break up off camera and he somehow became the one that couldn’t–doesn’t make any sense to me.
“Melasecond”
Defined as: a measure of time of one’s engagement
Reference: The time it took Jason to drop Meliissa for Molly
Emails:
http://bachelor13.wordpress.com/2009/03/03/after-the-after-the-final-rose-taping/
556. CrazyWorld – they fall in love cuz they want desperately [sp?] to fall in love. and the bach/ette is the very next person to cross their path.
483. sockeyewillie
PERFECT COMMENT!
BEST THING I HAVE READ!
#604
There is an interview that Fleiss did, it is posted on Fort, I believe the Media thread. He said something about the show not being planned and that the were actually geting close to making a deal with Molly to be the next bachelorette the week before the breakup.
My question still remains…Jason claims he HAD to break up with Melissa on television, even though he didn’t want to, because they ALL agreed that their relationships with him would be televised. “That’s what we all signed up for”. Well, true J-dog.
BUT! In all 12 failed Bachelor seasons thus far, not one of those 12 break ups were televised. Not one. We may have read a small article in US Weekly, or heard a short segment on Entertainment Tonight. But that was the extent of it. They were private conversations. So was there REALLY and TRULY no out for Jason? Or did he just not try or care to find one to spare Melissa the humiliation?
My opinion: Jason did not HAVE to tell producers his intentions. He is a smart enough man to know that the second he opened his mouth about wanting to change his mind, ABC was not going to let him off the hook, or allow him to do anything in a private manner. That was music to ABC’s ears…they can’t dream of a better scenario, or write a script that good.
He could have and SHOULD HAVE quietly tapered things with Melissa OFF CAMERA and slowly initiated contact with Molly OFF CAMERA for some damage control and dignity, if he really did have a change of heart. He should have made the decision to keep ABC out of the loop as to his feelings, told Melissa in private the situation, told Molly the situation in private, and just gone through the motions with ABC until shooting had wrapped and then he could handle his business OUT OF THE SPOTLIGHT.
You don’t humiliate someone in front of millions of people. Someone who you promised the world. That’s not okay and that wasn’t your ONLY option. ABC doesn’t own you. They make you sign a contract, but they don’t talk for you, and can’t control your actions. Grow a pair and man up and do the right thing.
YOU SHOWED MORE LOYALTY TO ABC THAN YOU DID TO YOUR FIANCE!! You chose to uphold something you told a television network over the respect you had for your future wife. That’s low. Melissa was your fiance for crying out loud. Not some random girl. She was the missing piece to your family, your son’s future mother.
I second Erica – “These are people’s lives”. It’s not a joke.
Moving on to my skepticism regarding Molly’s insight to what was going to happen at the ATFL.
Do I think Molly and Jason had spoken prior to the first taping of ATFR? Yes.
Do I think Molly knew he was over Melissa and wanted to move on with her? Yes.
Is it suspect that if she was supposedly so shocked that he wanted to get back with her, she was able to hold his leg in a matter of minutes, and kiss him and jump on him as they left the set? Yes.
Watch it back. Watch Molly’s face as she watches him dump her on the opening montage…tears? Nope. She is almost smiling…
Watch Molly’s face when Jason walks out onto the stage…she is so excited to see him. They smirk at one another. She knows EXACTLY what is about to happen. It was a nice acting attempt on both of their parts to show restraint and confusion for a few minutes, but it was far from convincing. Nice try kids.
As far as Jason and Mel go-
Jason says when they left New Zealand and got into a “real setting” things changed. I don’t call not being able to see your fiance everyday, having to still watch playback of the show, having supervised playdates, and keeping your relationship a secret a “real setting”. The “real setting” would have taken place AFTER the ATFL show. When the world knew they were dating, when they could have the day to day relationship and walk down the street together. They went from a fairytale to nothing. That’s how the show goes. But c’mon Jason…give it a chance. You obviously saw something in her to get on a knee for the third time in your life. So hang onto that until you can be normal with her and live normally, then if it STILL doesn’t work..cool, break it off. But you can’t say you tried as hard as you could…because you didn’t. You didn’t even half try.
I spent this season wishing I could be in Melissa’s shoes. Great guy, great life, great family, great kid…but I am so glad that wasn’t me. I can assure you “I’m so mad at you” wouldn’t have been my response.
@601
I saw Jason as a girly man last season. DeAnna would have run circles around him, as Jillian would have … as will Molly. Jason is a 32 year old man who went for the women at the lower age range and STILL picked a woman who will be the boss.
MESNICUTOPIA 1. The feeling of elation that rushes over you when the guy who dumped you “mesnics” his fiance and asks for “another shot” 2. The feeling one gets when your formerly dumped, now current reality show hoochie throws her tounge down your throat within 20 minutes of “mesnicking” his fiance
Anyone heard these clips of Andy Baldwin speaking out about Jason?
Scroll down on the guy’s blog and hear the clips.
http://1037theriver.com/pages/gregrambin.html
#617 Jerseygirl
Great post…..very well thought out and written and I couldnt have said it better myself. I agree 100% with everything you said. I think what upset me most is his obvious lack of feeling for Melissa. No tears, not nearly enough “I’m Sorry’s” and obviously not an iota of integrity (despite his claim) or decency. For Jason and Molly to be touching and kissing so quickly after Melissa left the set was inhuman. Who could do that? I also fell in love with him last season and thougt he would be the most wonderful bachelor yet. But his true colors came out. For Molly to not show one shred of sorrow or pain for Melissa is inexcusable. I have come to the conclusion that they deserve each other. Its sad but true. Thanks again from one Jersey girl to another….yours was a great post.
I am finally watching the AFTR 2 online, and Naomi and Erica were right about punching him, and saying that these are people’s lives. He shouldn’t have proposed to someone he was truly unsure about. It was wrong and heart breaking for her. I’m very happy Mel didn’t go to the second taping, stand up for herself and give a big F-U to ABC and the producers.
Jason Mesnick at ATFR Part 2: “The one thing I want people to know is that I was always honest. Honestly is so imortant to me.”
Right.
Lots of editing done on ATFR 1. If you notice during the entire Molly and Jason parts their positions change. First they’re sitting apart on the couch, cut to them snuggling, then far apart again. It’s actually funny to watch.
ATFR2:
CH: Can you show and tell Ty, what you’ve done and look him in eye and be proud?
Jason: Yeah, i would first and foremost tell Ty that people make mistakes. and i know mine is magnified because of all this. But i followed my heart, i followed my head, and even though i’ve had to hurt people in the way, I feel like i did it with INTEGRITY. And that’s what i want him to look and see from me.
Is this guy for real? Ok yes, follow your heart fine. I give him an ounce of “OK”. But integrity isn’t exactly a good word for Ty to get out of all of this charade.
So it was INTEGRITY made you propose to a wonderful girl and lead her on ~ then to DUMP her on national tv and minutes later ask #2 out and make out with her? INTEGRITY indeed jason.
I am sure you will have another dose of INTEGRITY when you fall in love with another woman, cheat on and leave Molly. Oh and let me guess, you will say, “but i followed my heart and it was the right thing to do for me at that time.”
uh huh… i think you are the only one buying your brand of BS.
test.
I am so glad I found your site. You had me totally prepared for what unfolded Monday Night. It is still shocking to me. The whole thing, I thought Jason and Deanna were decent people looking for love and now, my opinion has changed. Thanks Reality Steve for the heads up. ;~)
605, I agree that ATFR1 was highly edited. What we saw of Mel’s reaction was nothing that she needed to apologize for but she does apologize in the email. I’m sure there was much more to her reaction that they didn’t show. She must have ripped him apart but they wouldn’t want to show that because he was unable to defend himself.
I agree with the girly Jason. Not that everyone needs to be macho, but he screamed much more than Mel when they jumped in the cold water and when he bungy jumped with Molly.
Re: #620 — Thanks for the link. This bachelor truly was an officer and a “gentleman.” He flats out acknowledges that the producers TRIED to tell him who to pick and who NOT to pick, but he refused, even to the point where he walked off the set.
#620 just4dafunofit
So poor Jason Mesnick thinks he acted with INTEGRITY? I’m not sure he even knows the meaning of the word. He should listen to these clips of Andy Baldwin speaking of the time he was on the Bachelor.
There’s no comparision, really. Andy Baldwin has integrity, Jason Mesnick doesn’t.
(#620 thanks for posting the link)
#620
Interesting interview, especially the third part about having to push back against the producers when they were trying to steer him about who to pick, etc., and how he walked off the set one day, refusing to allow himself to be exploited. However, I can think of a couple scenarios relating to the current bachelor:
1) The producers learned a lesson from Andy’s season, and altered the language of the contract all participants sign in order to have more power to coerce them into doing what the producers feel would be best for ratings. Perhaps the $5 Million breach-of-contract penalty clause did not yet exist in Andy’s season (wish the DJ had followed up with some question about contractual obligations so maybe this info would’ve come out)
2) Jason simply feared the show would invoke the $5 Mil penalty if he did not follow through with the ATFR1, and he could not afford to take that risk. I assume that’s what he was referring to in the emails with Mel when he said “The producers really didn’t want me to say anything…. you know I couldn’t do that. I tried…”. Might also explain why he was afraid to break it off privately and get back with Molly privately – per the agreement he signed, good and bad their relationship was public, and he had to inform the producers of his intentions, or else risk being sued when they found out on their own.
3) Jason was heavily compensated for doing the break-up at the AFTR1 – perhaps something like college tuition for Ty, and given that, he was able to justify the means to secure his son’s education. And if he disclosed anything to Melissa that the producers didn’t want him to prior to the show, he would forfeit that compensation.
4) He really is just spineless and would not push back hard enough about the break-up show, allowing himself (and more importantly Mel) to be exploited instead.
Jillian still needs to re-think the whole Bachelorette thing!
Does anyone know how to get white paint out of my carpet? There was so much ‘whitewashing’ of Jason’s image on last night’s show that I’m sure it spilled over into puddles at the bottom of my TV. Please, no more of this, “follow your heart” stuff . . . it should never be an excuse for treating someone badly.
I was calculating and the Bachelorette has already starting taping….thats why Jillian has been able to do the talk shows in LA…
It takes 6 weeks and then there is 6 weeks in between then it gets aired…so tapping would have started around the 2nd week of Jan for 6 weeks…through to the end of Feb..then they date for 6 weeks before the first show….then another 6 weeks to actually watch the show….Jillian has already found her mate! That’s why she said last night…I hope I pick the right one??? hahahahha food for thought..this is why she had a glow on her face and couldn’t say anything bad about the situation with Melissa and Jason..boooyaaaaa!
Hey…Steve, gotta any inside information???
#620 just4dafunofit…….thanks for the link
So poor Jason Mesnick thinks he acted with INTEGRITY? I’m not sure he even knows the meaning of the word. He should listen to these clips of Andy Baldwin speaking of his time on the Bachelor.
Andy Baldwin has integrity. Jason Mesnick doesn’t.
Oh, and the idea that just because no prior break-ups were televised means that Jason was not obligated to do his publicly either doesn’t hold much water. I’m sure the producers weren’t going to force prior couples to break up on TV just so they could televise a break up – not exactly appointment viewing. But when the break up is tied to a twist such as trying to get back with the #2 girl, the producers knew they had to run with it. I believe if Jason just wanted to end it with Mel, the show would’ve let him out of the obligation to do it publicly because it wouldn’t have been dramatic enough on its own to merit doing it on TV.
Or, as CH would probably have us believe, maybe they televised this one because it was the first time the relationship ended before the season broadcast concluded, and so they had the *opportunity* to air it, and perhaps felt an *obligation* to air it rather than let America think as they watched the finale that J & Mel were living happily ever after rather than broken up already (which is exactly what CH suggests their reasoning was). Not saying I necessarily believe this, just trying to exhaust the possibilities!
#634 I am not tu sure you are right on that. They just started doing casting calls in Feb for the guys so the process is just starting.
I’m pretty sure taping of Jillian’s season starts in March.
I just watched part of last night–what is up with those ultra tight close-ups at times of Jason? Were those reshoots without the audience?
#633
LOL I have the same problem at my house. I ran down to Home Depot and absolutely fell in love with two AMAZING spot removers. I just couldn’t choose which one buy. Really, it’s true – I LIVED IT!! I decided to bring home the Resolve. When we got back to the house, things were different….it just didn’t clean the carpets like it used to – the chemistry just wasn’t there. As hard as it all was, I threw the Resolve out and went back for the Scotch Gard. Believe me, it wasn’t easy – I wandered around for a while, nearly squeezing out a tear. Through it all, I think I maintained my integrity though…my children will be proud of the decisions I’ve made…
OMG…I need my life back!!! LOL
Jason’s going to be on Bonnie Hunt on Monday, and she (and apparently her whole staff) is pissed at him. She said today that you can go to the Bonnie Hunt Show website to submit questions you want her to ask him. RS…you HAVE to write in!!!
#3. Nobody | March 3rd, 2009 at 5:29 am
Forgot to add… Chris Harrison seems to be towing the ABC company line. He’s in full denial mode in his blog, even though its very obvious Jason and Molly have been, at the very least, communicating with each other since the Finale.
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i wrote this comment on his blog:
chris, the bachelor contract says the show can distort and present false info. why should we believe anything you have to say? this show is your golden goose. you’re not going to slay it.
on ATFR2 jascum said of molly, “We’re partners in crime”. and molly said, “What ‘we’ had to do”, then quickly caught herself and changed it to what we’ve been through. sorry i don’t buy it. i think she was in on it and knew all along how it was going to go.
Are they being paid for this NZ travel ad?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBw7Amz-TVA
I have set up to record all of the talk show appearances, but really, what’s the point? He is just going to give the same, canned answers he’s been giving. There won’t be anything new, except he’ll be able to drone on and on about how great things are with Mol…. Oh, and we’ll get to hear more about his organization for single mothers and fathers. . If that isn’t the most blatent attempt to gain some kind of favor with America, then I don’t know what is! News flash to Jason: it isn’t going to matter, the deed is done, you’re now the most hated bachelor/ette in history!! I would hardly classify him as a single parent. They have made it sound like he was a freakin’ widower all along…more spin. I will be interested to see Mel on Ellen tomorrow though…
He must be under contract. Why on earth would you go on shows where you’re going to get nothing but grief?
Just one more “thought”..if all this is thinking!!!
Chris Harrison is a HOST. A moderator..a hired actor! He hosts HGTV garden shows too. Do you shoot the messenger because the plants died a week after the shooting? He is not responsible for TPTB and/or their decisions..is he?
#642, I caught that too, I was shocked that it wasn’t edited out though.
631 + 636 darryn02
Finally somebody gets it!!!!!
Don’t get me wrong I think Jason could have done a lot more to fight the producers on what THEY wanted to happen at the end of the show but there are plenty of reason why he felt that he couldn’t.
I honestly think Jason is probably a nice guy that got in way over his head in dealing with the producers and letting them run how things went. And in the end didn’t realize how bad it was going to look on TV.
Bonnie Hunt and Ellen are both on NBC…which means that they don’t have to operate through the ABC filter. I hear Ellen is not going to be that hard on CH today in any event. How disappointing.
And as far as Fleiss’s comment that they almost had MOLLY under contract to be the next Bachelorette. Really? Molly??? They gave her such a bad edit (and that’s giving her the benefit of the doubt…I actually think she really IS that painful), why would America want to see a WHOLE season of her. Ick.
OMG The Bachelor made it to Keith Olbermann…WOW I think ABC is the ultimate winner in this that EVERYONE is talking about it…
Here is Olbermann and the Bachelor in one minute…
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#29499036
CH’s blog today..dripping with more BS than I care to think about
http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2009/03/chris-harriso-1.html?cnn=yes
Too bad..I actually liked Chris, but this season, his true colours came out..he’s as nasty as the rest of them. Amazing how money must talk when it comes to these people.
#620, those audio clips are awesome!!! Andy says that they DID try to tell him what to do, whom to choose, etc, and he walked off set and said NO . . . I’m glad he said Jason has no integrity for not doing the same!!! He’s right!
I am hoping that Ellen asks some of the tougher questions. I’d like to know how Molly, who never saw or spoke to Jason for 2 months (yeah, right) and was completely oblivious as to what was going on with Mel and J, agrees to “see where this goes” and then, 5 minutes later, is playing tonsil hockey with him in the very spot Melissa was just cussing him out in. Wouldn’t most women have reacted a bit differently? Like maybe saying WTF? I guess Mol’s desire to “win” trumps all thoughts of decorum.
#617 JerseyGirl, You hit the nail on the head.
There is NO way that ABC could have compelled Jason to “break-up†with Melissa on tv. A contract may say that certain things have to be public, maybe even something along the lines of saying that in case of a break-up, ABC has the first bite at breaking the news or an interview. But NO court would uphold a contract that had as a clause that you must go on a network and breakup publicly. I know there are a lot of people defending Jason. But if you really pay attention to everything that has happened, even without having read any blogs or leaks, you have to acknowlrdge that certain things just don’t fit.
1. Assuming Jason did not feel the chemistry was right between him and Melissa, why did he immediately have to run adn tell ABC? Chris Harrison said on his blog that Jason called him and said things weren’t the same and that he was thinking about Molly. In the contract. it may state that you have to give an update of your relationship, but come on. We have all been in relationships. Is there any way you would tell a 3rd party more about your relationship, even if by contract you were suppose to give them updates, than letting your partner know? Why in God’s name would ABC be the first place you run to with your relationship issues? If this is a real relationship you are trying to work out, you don’t add fuel to the fire by informing ABC that they may have something explosive on their hands. You would probably give it more than a few weeks. Even if Jsaon knew it wasn’t going to work out with Melissa, if he still really cared about her as he claims, he wouldn’t have done this.
2. Jason says that he HAD to break up with Melissa on tv. I know contract law and I know this is crap. Then he says Melissa said she knew they weren’t together before the taping. So which is it Jason? You either broke up with her before the taping, and then just pretended to at the taping, which means you guys were ACTING, OR you went on national television and broke up with your fiance without warning her, which I’ve already said, ABC couldn’t have complelled you to do. Either way, you are a tool. And even if ABC lead you to believe that you had to, if you had cared even the tiniest bit about sparing Melissa’s feelings, then you could have talked to an independent lawyer about your contract.
There are other things, but I have to get to work. I would like to point out that I have no idea if Jason, Melissa, and/or Molly were in on any or all parts of this fiasco. My observations are assuming Melissa and Molly were not, since according to ABC this is “real life.†These are observations made assuming ABC is being truthful. Now if they are paid actors that’s a whole ‘nother thing. Given the evidence provided solely by ABC it’s really hard to believe Jason had absolutely pure intentions. I don’t think I’m a judgmental person. Hey, choose Molly over Melissa. I don’t care why. Don’t give your relationship a chance with Melissa, that’s totally your call. I’m just pointing out inconsistencies in what has come out of Jason’s own mouth.
I want to to see what Mel says on Ellen!
yeah–give Chris a break, he really doesn’t have that much to do with the show. He does the first interview, the rose ceremonies, and a few days of voiceovers in a studio–probably 10 days work at best per season plus AFTRs if they have them.
I just have to ask and I have not read through all of the comments yet, but did anyone else notice on Monday that when Molly and Jason got together before she met Ty she was already wearing the shell ring that she later tells Jason’s family that Ty gave it to her. It is very obvious that they shot that after she met ty that day. This is where Jason is trying to explain to her that it does not matter how ty reacts to her at first that he is shy and so on. If she was a person that was good with kids, she would not need to know the info that he told her, and if he needed to tell her that then how can he be happy with her enough to let her in his son’s life. Also, after being dumped in NZ and even though you still love the guy – wouldn’t you be pissed off – I mean come on – she had nothing but nice things to say about him at the ATFR and if you were dumped by him prior and had no contact don’t you think that you would have some harsh words for him even if you did still love him…???
Also, I don’t really blame Chris – I think he has to do what he had to do becuase of his contract and if you ask me – he did not seem to happy about it, I think he may be just as pissed as we are but that is just my opinion.
#620 post and links to Andy Baldwin’s comments regarding his experience on The Bachelor says volumes to me.
Andy stated that although he did do the show for the experience and he fell for Tessa (which lasted for 8 months) one thing he acknowledged is the producers prodding him to select other girls. He fought back and even walked off the set.
The other thing i gleened from his conversation is that he wasn’t going to let this show compromise his image, reputation and future because of what the producer’s staged script wanted. (aka ratings) IMO not only is Andy a man but he is not afraid to express the truth, even if he has some LIFETIME contract hanging over his head. Bravo Andy!
Jason is by no means a man. If truth be known, I bet he was paid some nice bucks to follow the script as RS outlined. Jason’s career doesn’t pay him oodles of money (probably mostly commission) and look at how much time he has been away from working it with doing 2 tv shows plus the media crap.
I don’t think Jason and Molly will last either. I think he is looking for a dominate women (Mommy) to challenge him but I don’t think Molly wants to assume the role as Mommy and step-mommy. Once the bloom is off the rose, I believe Molly will realize that this fantasy life will become very boring and dull and she will feel “trapped” once she moves to Seattle.
She will boot him to the curb eventually, mark my words.
Wow, That Olbermann clip was *awesome* Hork, Gag, Puke
I can’t believe this is getting so much traction! Nearly everyone hates Jason & ABC (Nice Job Steve!) and sympathizes w/Mel.
What I love about this clip are two things:
1) The word “scheme” is being used over and over. Reality Steve, if nothing else, that should put a smile on you face. Have a glass and light up a huge stogie, cause you’ve earned it! (owl tips his wing)
2) Olbermann reported (I still can’t believe this) that Jason has stated, “My producer made me do this. I was under contract and they said I had to do it or they would sue me.” Unflipping believeable) Jason is cracking under the extreme pressure and after CH & Mike Fleis threw him under the bus he’s wilting.
Olberman and a talking head then go into a huge discussion about the consequences of scheming and the degree to which reality tv has sunk (equated it with professional wrestling!) and wondering why people EVER thought it was real in the first place.
There was also some discussion about Elizabeth Haselbeck who actually watch the show wearing a wedding veil??
She’s a complete fruit loop–geez where do they get these people??
Anyway, great fun. I can’t wait for Steve’s update!
What did you think of Mellissa’s “statement” read by Chris last night? Sounds like something an ABC lawyer came up with.
Look at what Melissa’s myspace says:
“Integrity is what we do, what we say, and what we say we do.”
and
“Mel says I had rather do and not promise than promise and not do. “
Everyone, go to the Bonnie Hunt website and encourage her to stick it to Jason. I am so sick of everyone giving him a free pass. She talked about how disappointed she and her whole staff were in his actions….I’d really love to see someone make him SQUIRM!!!
I liked Jillian’s explanation of the process. It made sense. (even though when she talks she sounds like she’s gasping for air…like she’s on a ventilator or something!)
Believe it or not, I actiually did not watch any of this massacre thanks to the heads up from Reality Steve. This whole deal has digusted me so much that I will not watch another minute of anything Fleisss produced. I am saddened that he has gotten the ratings he got because at ABC that makes him a king.
Melissa is going make it. She is one strong cookie and I am sure by now she knows she dodged a major bullet.
Molly will get her 15-20 minutes of fame, deal with Jason for a while and then move on. Acording to a source of mine in Grand Rapids who knows her that is her usual style. She is a pragmatist who knows what she wants and how to go about getting it and then moves on to the next challenge afterwards.
The major loser in this whole thing is Ty. His father is a weak, cowardly, easily led individual who got caught in a situation and rather than taking a stand, caved in to pressure. Ty will not be able to break up with his dad after a few months. He is stuck with him for at least another 14 years.
#661. jan
That letter was total hogwash. I’ll bet you a dollar to a doughnut that ABC’s lawyer’s wrote so as to try and counter any future legal action from Mel while garnering as much sympathy for Jason as possible (she’s cool, everything’s ok, no need to get upset bla bla) while making themselves look above it all. Now let’s get back to the Lovely Couple. BS.
Truth is Melissa walked out after the ATFR1 and washed her hands of the total affair. My read on her actions is that she was expecting a fight with Jason on ATFR2, not dumpage, and was really hoping to work it out and praying that she could cause she still had feelings for him, even though a lot of damage had been done. However when Jason pulled a mesnick, it was truely over and done. The End.
Sorry. Little error there. I meant she was expecting another fight with Jason on ATFR1, not ATFR2.
I didn’t spell this out, but I’m pretty sure ABC’s contract giving how sucky they are allow them to speak legally in Mel’s name. So when she wasn’t willing to show up for ATFR2, their laywers wrote the letter. I’ll bet she had nothing to do with it. It’s also possible she said whatever I don’t care what you do and again that means theier lawyers authored and wrote it.
WOW! Mike Fleis had to appear for an interview on film.com because Molly & Jason couldn’t appear, supposedly because of scheduling conflicts and he got hammered! I’ve posted a link to the piece:
http://www.film.com/tv/the-bachelor/story/bachelor-creator-mike-fleiss-throws/26471957
Highlights:
Fleis DENIES that Jason was under contract or had any obligation to do anything with Melissa on camera, period. He even states that they can check Jason’s contact if they don’t believe him. WOW. (He didn’t throw Jason under the bus-he ran over him and backed up a couple hundred times, then lit him on fire…..just in case)
The wheels are coming off folks–its only a matter of time before someone breaks contract and tells all—I feel it.
Another observation regarding the Melissa “letter”:
didn’t Harrison say that Melissa “sent us this quote”? He then holds up a Bachelor logo postcard and reads this “quote”. How exactly was this “quote” communicated? Viewers were once again being led to believe what ABC wants them to believe…that postcard was beyond tacky. And Harrison had a hard time keeping a straight face when attempting to explain that Melissa wasn’t in attendance because “the wounds are still too fresh”. I call BS!
#640 – Christine K: OMG, that was too funny!!! ROFLMAO. My laughter lasted so long that I started getting tears in my eyes, and my 3 yr. old thought there was something wrong with me.
668-I just posted that link on Jason’s very own myspace blog…
I so wish that someone from the ABC crew would have told Melissa what was going to happen & she could have spoiled ABC’s plan for her to get dumped on TV. She should have just said No, thank you!!! (Of course, that would have made her the most hated person instead of Jason.) Her saying no was what I thought was going to happen when Steve said he had some news.
#640
I love it! if you can’t get rid of the stench in the air after last night’s broadcast, try “Gotta Follow My Heart” cleanser. It won’t get rid of the stink, but will cover it will up with a slightly less repulsive odour.
re: 669
Harrison’s a paid PUNK
Mesnick is an emotional PUNK
ABC is a greedy PUNK
The viewers all got PUNK’d
Wow! It was just on CNN Headline News. They were interviewing Brooke Anderson from Showbiz Tonight, who says The Bachelor scandal will be covered in tonight’s show.
LMAO #668
For sure……..the post of the day.
RS is in on it too. How else did they know how America felt when the aftershow was taped 6 weeks earlier? Now RS is getting advertising and tee-shirts. I think RS made a deal with ABC and the leak was staged like everything else.
Fleiss also mentioned in another interview something about the “500 people on the show who aren’t under contract anymore” and they can answer any and all questions regarding scripted endings. Let’s hope some of these 500 come forward and spill.
657. I totally agree. Chris is doing his job. He is hosting the show. I don’t believe what he says on his blogs or interviews, but he is probably under contract not to reveal what is true and what is not. I am not saying is good to lie to the public. I’m just saying he’s shouldn’t be blamed.
owl wrote “The wheels are coming off folks–its only a matter of time before someone breaks contract and tells all—I feel it.”
Enter, Barbara Walters.
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Fleiss interview: “Melissa didn’t want to do it, Molly became the girl he chose, and Jillian was the next fan favorite” More sloppy “seconds”?
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MESNICKABLES:: memorable quotes that contradict each other.
“I was able to spend a lot of time with Melissa. We had secret rendezvous, we spent the whole Christmas time together, and what really happened is the chemistry was completely different, the relationship was completely different,” Mesnick told Kimmel.
“We could not see each other, so we had to have conversations over the phone …So I had to do it in front of everybody, and I hated that.”
CH:
…As for the claims that the show had been flying women girls out to Seattle, Harrison said they were “completely false” and “another lie that they concocted and went with as fact.”
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“I, on that last day, was falling in love with two girls,”
…he had chosen Rycroft …because she had been exactly what he thought he was looking for in a wife…..”on that very last day that’s exactly what I wanted.”
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“…everybody knows in the real world that engagements do end, as hard as it has to be.”
(All quotes above taken from the VERY SAME interview from realitytvworld.)
I just love reading all the comments here, some of you are very funny!
#640 ChristineK……had a great laugh over your spot remover analogy, brilliant.
#668 owl….what you said….”He didn’t throw Jason under the bus–he ran over him and backed up a couple hundred times, then lit him on fire….just in case”.
Thanks for the laughs, guys.
I just wanted to thank some people who liked what I wrote the other day on #447. Imagine my surprise when I read an interview with Jason today, and he said this:
Q: Did you fall out of love with Melissa?
J: Melissa is that person I thought going into it I would end up with. I guess in a way she’s similar to a lot of other girls I’ve dated in my life, which is part of the reason why I ended up picking her. It was just something I was so used to and something I always thought I wanted when realistically, there’s probably a reason why my past relationships haven’t worked out. What I really needed was somebody different and it was Molly.
See more: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/television/2008812129_webbachelor.html
And then, Molly said this!
M: I would say I’m a pretty logical person. I understand that I came on a show called “The Bachelor,” there’s 25 girls, things are going to happen. I even knew when I left New Zealand, I wasn’t mad at Jason, I knew he had to make a choice between two people and at that point he thought he made the choice for him. Everything’s in the past and we’ve moved on from it.
bellablue – thanks for the new posts. your fan…
Face it! Molly was a freak in bed and Jason fell for that. She’ll be on to the next “contest” before you know it. Molly is no match. If she was dating a married man, as rumored, she likes the chase. Jason is sooooo stupid. He is no match for that woman. If she moved to Seattle, she will be with one of the Seahawks quicker than he can bat an eye.
Jason’s problem is that, comparatively, he is the cutest one in his family. I think he may be kinda lame and they treated him like he was special. He never was and he never will be.
He really just needs to get a fat chick and keep it moving.
Steve – i think you’re great, but I also think you might be suffering from delusions of grandeur about this whole thing. You said yourself the Us Weekly article had even more insider info than you were privy to, but came to the same conclusions. I suspect this information was “leaked” on purpose to draw hype to the finale and ATFR, and was successful at that goal. My suspicion is yes, some of your readers tuned in to watch, but the hype was generated by more mainstream news sources like Us Weekly. Taking responsibility for 5-7 million additional people is kind of a stretch, no?
Does anyone know who Hilary Mesnick is? There is a listing in Kirkland, Wa.(Seattle area) for Jason S.(Scott) Mesnick and for Hilary Mesnick at the same address of 13426 NE 136th PL, Kirkland, Wa. 98034, 425-825-5834. This listing is not on a houseboat on the water. Could this be Jason’s dad? Is Jason a Jr.? There is one other listing for a Mesnick in Wa., one for Sean and Leslie Mesnick. I think this is Jason’s brother.
I think Hilary is Jason’s ex-wife’s name. That’s probably Jason’s address. But um, why are you looking him up? The poor guy is going to have to move.
The players in this thing choose to play out this relationship on TV in public. For that reason I feel we need to know what happened between Jason and Melissa in those 6 weeks after New Zealand. Was there really any reason for it, or was it just Molly was gone? Ordinarily I would say none of our business, but they choose to make it all public.
I’m wondering if Jason is so immature and wishy washy that had he chosen Molly, we wouldn’t be watching him break up with Molly and pine for Mel.
Does anyone know who Hilary Mesnick is? There is a Hilary and a Jason S. Mesnick at the same listing in Kirkland, Wa. which is in the Seattle area. I wonder if this is Jason’s dad. Is Jason a Jr.?
I wasn’t looking him up, I was just wondering if these people are smart enough to make their phone’s unlisted before they go on these shows. Deanna’s parents made theirs unlisted. It doesn’t look like who ever this is was that smart.
can I ask an american idol question??
Can I ask an American Idol question?
How are the final 3 spots being decided… are the judges picking?
I am so disgusted by everything that happened.
It was obvious that Jason was lying. He did have contact with molly after TFR. What a scumbag. And looking at Molly, I also agree with most viewers that she knew what was going to happen. of course. They were seeing each other so of course she knew what was going to happen in the first episode after TFR. How disgusting to see he dumped Melissa and 10 minutes later Molly and Jason were kissing.
When I learned Jason would be the new bachelor i was one of few, if not the only one? that was not happy about it at all. Did not like the slime. his eyes are too close to each other. lol. with his amazing this and his amazing that. I got bored watching his slimy behaviour.
Funny how he tried to reenact Stephanie’s scene with her daughter in the last episode running to Ty like a crazy lunatic., but failed miserably in my eyes. That was the only beautiful thing of this season. The scene with Stephanie and her daughter. I am also not thrilled we yet again get a loser for our new bachelor(ette). Yes i love jillian, but come on, everybody loved Jason too. Same with Deanna. I still do not understand what her role was in all of this?
They made such a big deal out of it, this was going to happen, but when deanna finally appeared it was just weird.
treehouse..lol.. be careful mentioning American Idol on here or the dictator jpchick will bash you to pieces. She thinks she owns this board and is just full of herself. RS even mentions Team Gokey on his last blog to talk about. But I guess jpchick has blinders on? lol
Did you hear that Melissa is going to be on Dancing with the Stars????
Yeaah The old format is back. Font is much easier to read, and the numbers are also back. Steve you need to keep it like this.
THAT THING YOU DO!
I was watching the movie That Thing You Do! today. The breakup scene between Jimmy and Fay has a whole new meaning to me now. Fay, “Just watch as Jimmy begins a slow tortuous descent into the loveless life that he deserves.” Jimmy, “Who told that we were engaged.” Mr. White, “The same person that said you had class, Jimmy.” If you get a chance watch it.
SunnyDaisy was right, Hillary is Jason Mesnick’s Ex. She was on Access Hollywood last night. She’s hotter than Melissa or Molly. You can see her picture if you go to “google” then click on images and put in her name. Look at the two pictures on the far right on the second row. She’s smokin. That address that comes up under hers and Jason’s name must be the address they were both in before he divorced her. He must have moved to the house boat after the split.
Freak.. He does not live in the houseboat. He lives in a condo with his brother.Abc rented the houseboat for the taping of the show.(like sleepless in seattle)