“Men Tell All” Recap – 7/20/09
-Lets immediately get started. A lot to get to. For those that follow me on Twitter or are a Facebook friend (if you haven’t joined either, just scroll down the right hand column and under “My Stuff”, just click away), you were aware that I attended Wes’ concert this past Saturday night in Ft Worth. Am I a country music fan? Not really. I didn’t grow up around it so I can’t say that I’m a fan, but it doesn’t make my ears bleed to listen to. Do I have a few country songs downloaded to my ipod? Sure. Are there Garth Brooks posters on my wall? No. Carrie Underwood? Hmmmm, now that’s a different story. Anyway, what I’m getting at is I wasn’t necessarily a country music fan before I went, and it’s not like I’m a converted one now after I attended the show. Just thought it would be a good opportunity to get out, see Wes’ play, meet the guy in person, and have a good time on Saturday night. And that we did.
-Lets put one rumor to rest since I got a couple emails on this: No, I did not do any pole dancing. Hell, I would admit that if I did. Yes, there was a pole off to the side of the stage that I remember some guy using as her personal phallic symbol, but no, that wasn’t me. I was too busy downing shots of Jack that Wes forced me to drink. The night started getting a little hazy after about 1 or 2 o’clock. It was really a good time all around. The crowd was really into it, Wes did his thing, and even gave Reality Steve a shout out before one of his songs. Very appreciative of that. And those that were in attendance got an idea of how Wes’ feels about ABC and what the show did to him. He let them know on more than one occasion. I got to really spend some quality time with the guy Sat. night and into Sunday afternoon since, well, someone wasn’t in any position to drive back to Dallas, so I ended up crashing at the hotel where they were staying. It’s been a while since I had one of those nights, but nonetheless, it was fun. And just think, we’ll be back at it again on July 30th at the Glass Cactus in Grapevine when he’s in town performing with Joe Nichols. Good thing that place is only 20 minutes from me. I might actually be able to drive home after the show. Or not. Maybe I’ll just chill at the Gaylord hotel.
-As for what was said, Wes couldn’t have re-iterated enough that he didn’t have a girlfriend on the show, didn’t have one before he went on, and didn’t have one after. There were also band members, a manager, close friends, and a sister who backed him up on all of this. If people want to continue to think he did, I don’t know what to say. As for the “Men Tell All” no show last night, yes, Wes initially said he didn’t want to do it. Then a day before filming, he did say he wanted to defend himself and ABC basically said, “Stay home. We don’t think it’s a good idea.” But if you listen to Chris Harrison’s explanation in his blog today as to why Wes changed his mind, that couldn’t be further from the truth. Ridiculous claim that Chris makes, really. “In the end, he didn’t amount to much on this show”. What? Chris, he’s been the talk of the season, he made the final four, and you basically dedicated the last half hour of the show to busting his balls by calling him out and making a video tribute to him. But he didn’t amount to much on the show? Oh, ok. That is such a ridiculous statement and contradicts everything this show has presented Wes as. Chris is a company man and he’s doing what he’s told, however, to not have Wes on to defend himself doesn’t do anything but lend credibility to what he’s been saying in the interview with me and what he’s said in other interviews. A very good piece written by Andy Dehnart over at RealityBlurred.com that I couldn’t agree with more. To read the whole column, click here. Here’s an excerpt:
“Either way, ABC should have bent over backwards to let him show up and say his piece. If he declined the invitation, show proof, because otherwise any discussion of him seems like they’re beating up on someone who can’t defend himself.
If he was allowed to attend and repeated his accusations, let the other men, or Chris Harrison, challenge him and say he’s full of shit. Better, show the full, unedited video of his limo exit interview to prove that it wasn’t edited out of context. But keeping him away just makes him seem like the producers and network have something to hide.”
I’d say that’s pretty self-explanatory. ABC comes off looking much worse by not having Wes appear on the show. Period. And the only reason given by Chris Harrison last night was, “Wes is obviously more concerned about his career than finding love”. Puke. How about giving the real reason he wasn’t there which was ABC was scared sh**less of him reaching out to just more than my audience and a few radio station audiences telling what really happened. If they had nothing to hide, and they felt that all this stuff Wes was saying is BS, then put him on the firing line and call him out on it. Of course, they couldn’t do that because it would’ve gone against the whole character they created of him for eight episodes. Embarrassing, really. There is more to this story about what really went on in regards to the “MTA” taping, and I think we’re gonna get Wes on again this week to defend himself since he wasn’t allowed to at the taping after being told to stay home. No, it will not be another hour and a half conversation, but I do think its important people hear what was said. I’ll try and keep it to 20-30 minutes tops, so stay tuned for that. Now, on to last night.
-One contention a lot of you seem to be making in regards to Wes and the “They say love, it don’t come eeeeeeasssy” song (which is a catchy ass song that’s been stuck in my head since Saturday), is that you seem to be under the impression that, “Well, if he wrote the song just for Jillian when he was on the show, how did his band know how to play it at the hometown date.” In case you forgot, and they showed it again last night, when Wes played that song (titled “It Don’t Take That Long”) in the hometown date, it was just him up on stage with his guitar. The band didn’t play along with him. The band was there for a completely different song. So just wanted to point that out since a lot of you are using that as some sort of basis as to why you think he didn’t write the song on the show. He did. We will address this in the interview.
-I will try to just cover everything else from the show as opposed to the Wes stuff since I think he’ll do a good job of covering that himself. The plan is to have the interview up on Thursday. One thing to note about the show was that in the previews last week, they teased that we were going to see clips from the “Bachelor/ette” reunion in Vegas from a couple months ago. Well, I guess over the course of a week they decided they had SOOOO much good material from the guys, that they decided to cut that stuff out, along with a piece that DeAnna filmed, and one that Graham filmed promoting his charity, 46NYC. If you’re interested, check it out at www.46NYC.com. It’s for a good cause. I didn’t think that the guys bitching back and forth at each other last night was all that entertaining, but hey, not my call. I most certainly would’ve cut that part of it to show the Vegas reunion stuff. And really, Reid couldn’t be there due to a “prior engagement”? They really expected people to believe that? For Christ sakes, he’s the 3rd place finisher in one of the more emotional send offs they’ve had and we’re supposed to believe that he’s calling the shots on his schedule and where he can be? Please. And of course, once the final clip aired of next weeks finale and we see a shot of Reid standing looking out a window with a ring in his hand, it was all pretty obvious why he wasn’t there. Told you last week he played a major role in the finale which is the reason he wouldn’t be at the “MTA” taping and it was proven right. Then again, that wasn’t that big of a secret.
-How horrible was the crowd last night? Could they have packed the place with any more Wes haters if they tried? Geesh. Don’t make it obvious or anything. Or they were just being told to boo and hiss every time his name was brought up. Not to mention the absolute shill job being done by Chris Harrison all night. I don’t know what’s worse, him actually calling out a guy who’s not there to defend himself, or actually believing all the editing about him was true. Usually Chris is Casper Milktoast when it comes to the “MTA” shows, but last night, someone lit a fire under his ass and told him to grow a set. Safe to say that he was a flat out prick last night. Very ornery and very condescending. “Well as for Wes, we can probably figure out why he wasn’t here.” We can? Please enlighten us Chris because you’ve given no explanation whatsoever. Actually save your breath since any explanation you gave wouldn’t have been the real one anyway. Were your jeans on too tight? Someone piss in your Corn Flakes that morning? My God, quit cursing like a sailor. It was like you were ready to fight someone last night. I was worried for little Chrissie last night. It was like someone took his wittle wed wagon and broke it into pieces. Not a very happy camper last night.
-I think I’ve had enough “Man Code” talk to last me a lifetime? Did we really need a half hour on that stuff? We get it. You guys don’t like Juan because he doesn’t drink like he’s heading into rehab and fart like it’s a frat house, or curse like he’s shooting a porn. What was with all the cursing and farting jokes last night? My God, have they ever done this before? Who cast all these hooligans up on stage? I was beginning to think the 13 men on stage combined IQ didn’t reach triple digits. I honestly thought that Dave, Tanner, and Jake made themselves look worse last night than they did on the show. Dave just doesn’t get it. Plain and simple. Every time he questioned his behavior or thought maybe he did something wrong, he followed it up with a “But…” So that right there pretty much showed his insincerity. He might’ve apologized to Jillian, but I will agree with Chris on this one, you know deep down he doesn’t feel the things he said and the way he acted was wrong. Down another scotch, buddy. And if you saw this interview online with him yesterday, he said that last seasons “Bachelor” came down to him and Jason Mesnick and they chose Jason. Huh? That’s news to everyone except Dave apparently. If he’s delusional enough to think that then so be it. Not a chance in the world he was a final two choice to be the “Bachelor”. No f-in way.
-As for Jake, anyone who honestly thinks that guy could carry a “Bachelor” show for two months is kidding themselves. Really? You’d want to watch THAT guy for eight straight weeks on your television? Blech. I find nothing about that guy remotely interesting. Hey, for selfish purposes and comedic value, I’d have a field day with him if he were the “Bachelor”, but even I’m rooting against it. I have a feeling I’d make the guy cry on a weekly basis if he read the stuff that I would write about him. I just think the “holier-than-thou” approach last night was ridiculous. And him telling whoever to “f-off” seemed so staged and so forced it didn’t even fit in. The guy doesn’t even know how to get mad correctly. That f-bomb lacked any sincerity whatsoever which made it seem so rehearsed like before the show they all gathered around and said, “Ok, you get real mad at me and bring me to my boiling point. Once you do, I’ll drop an f-bomb and it’ll shock everybody.” Please. Had the opposite effect on me. Thought it was lame and forced. Lets not forget that Jake used to be an actor back in the day, so to sit here and say he’s got nothing but good intentions and didn’t use this show to further his career, especially after what Wes told us in the interview, would just be ignorant. Not saying he did, but to immediately dismiss it? I wouldn’t. And I’ll leave what I want to say about Tanner to Wes. Lets just leave it at that.
-The Jason and Molly segment was predictable. “If we can weather this storm, we can make it through anything. It’s been tough on us. People have take their shots, but we’re better for it in the end.” Yes, thank you, thank you, thank you. I just wish you two lovebirds could’ve given me a shout out by name since, well, it’s obvious you were referring to me. I’m like the guy that gets Jason all hot under the collar don’t you remember? That’s the least you could’ve done after all I’ve done for you. As for them getting married? I say it every time a couple comes out of this show, and I’ll say it again: I’ll believe it when I see it. Talk all you want about your happiness, talk about Molly moving to Seattle, talk about how in love you guys are right on cue into the camera, blah blah blah. When you finally walk down the aisle and get married, then you may turn around at the altar and give Reality Steve a big “F You”. I won’t hold my breath though. I like the 1-for-17 (about to be 1-for-18 because, lets face it, Jillian isn’t marrying any of these guys) odds I have working in my favor. Who wouldn’t?
-As for the final thoughts on next weeks finale, I still stand by what I said last week. I think Jillian is either with Ed or with no one. We know now officially that Reid comes back, and considering he’s holding a ring, I’m guessing he proposes. I just don’t think she ends up with. In fact, I’m pretty sure of it. Same with Kiptyn. I don’t know what’s happening with Ed. And after reading her blog on People.com today she’s either a good bluffer and throwing everyone off, or she’s not with anybody. Once again, she still never says she’s in love, nor does she allude to the fact there is even a man in her life. Everything is about “her decision.” Oh, and I appreciate the back handed reference to me and her “engagement standards”. You’re welcome, Jillian. That’s what I’m here for. To criticize. I guess we’ll find out next week. Regardless, she’s not marrying any of these guys anyway, so does it all really matter? Didn’t think so.
-Pretty much the rest of the show was all the guys having fun at Wes’ expense, which is what I predicted would happen last week. No surprise there. Since Wes was not allowed to defend himself, I figured that he do it right here on RealitySteve.com. And in fact, I’ll open it up to questions from you as well. We’ll let him explain side of things in regards to the “Men Tell All” but if there’s anything I forgot in the first interview that you want asked, send me an email at steve@realitysteve.com, and if I’m able to ask it, I will. Obviously, there are certain things that cannot be discussed due to contracts, but I think Wes has been pretty open at this point and he will do his best. So please send all your questions and comments to my email address, and I will see how many of your questions we can get in. Wes has been nothing but stand up with me regarding the whole situation, and I fully expect him to continue with it. All questions, comments, emails, praises, criticisms, all go to that address as well. And finally, we are almost sold out of RealitySteve.com merchandise gear, so get it while you can. I think we might have about a week left of stuff to give out, depending on the size ordered. Stay tuned this week for more from Wes.
July 21st, 2009 at 12:36 PM
agree Steve, I don’t think she ends up with any of them in the end. If she does pick one at the end of the FRC, I am sure it doesn’t last by the time the ATFR is taped, if it wasn’t done already. Especially since like you said, she’s never said she’s in love. And that whole set up with Jake. Please. I know they say he was previously an actor, but I don’t see it. I don’t think he’s good at all. That fake surprise he did when that woman asked him if he was asked to be the next Bachelor if he would do it…(Fake surprise look on his face) “Oh me?…oh, well, (fake laugh) thats very flattering, but oh gee…uh..I don’t know, I am not sure I’m ready, I’m still trying to get my feet off/on the ground…(fake laugh).”. I can’t imagine anyone who bought that. And if he actually would be the next one, good lord, if you think Mesnick was a crier, I think he would put him to shame! He would cry his eyes out every episode and probably would fall in love and want to marry all 25 women by the end of the first night! Although I guess it would make for good recaps! I don’t think Kiptyn would be a good one either. Lets get some fresh meat on this show!
July 21st, 2009 at 12:39 PM
This is getting ridicules. It’s like high school all over again. While the cameras are on, these guys bash each other like there is no tomorrow yet they hangout outside of the show. Examples are Wes and Tanner. The entire show Tanner was against Wes including on the Men Tell All episode and Wes will bash Tanner in his new interview with Steve, but they hang out in Texas on the weekends. This whole show is a joke and everything is done for the ratings. EVERYTHING. That’s why I’m led to believe that Steve works for ABC. Think about it people. When everything happened with Jason last season ABC knew that they would not get 18 million people to watch unless there was a spoiler to draw people in. Who better to spoil their ending and bring viewers than Reality Steve who has been blogging about their show since the beginning. Also, seeing the contract these people sign (go to astrochicks.com to see this contract) you expect me to believe that ABC is not on Wes’ ass for talking to Reality Steve and not showing up to the Men Tell All taping. Come on. All this drama between Steve and ABC is for ratings. The more Steve bashes them and spoils their show the more viewers they get. I might be an Investigator but it doesn’t take a brain surgeon to figure this out.
P.S. check out people magazine, Jake admitted to being an actor and playing a young Chuck Norris just like I told you guys before.
July 21st, 2009 at 1:00 PM
I just wanted to say that I finally know who Jake reminds me of…Tom Cruise!!! His facial expressions, the way he smiles, the way he talks all remind me of Crazy Cruise. Now, I understand why Jake always rubbed me the wrong way. I sure hope he isn’t picked to be the next Bachelor.
July 21st, 2009 at 1:00 PM
So in conclusion, I wanted to say that this is only a TV show people. Those of you who hate Wes or anyone else because of what you saw on this show need to get a life. Even if Wes is a jerk in real life or not who are you to judge?! No one deserves to go through what Wes is going through just because he signed up for a TV show. Can’t you see it’s all fake and all these guys are friends when the cameras are off?!!
July 21st, 2009 at 1:17 PM
Welcome to Wes’ # 1 fan page.
July 21st, 2009 at 1:19 PM
agreed.
what is this, the all-wes-all-the-time blog? just as i thought and anticipated…you’re just trying to buddy up and be BFF with wes and anyone else who’s on the show. btw, thanks for plugging his next gig.
could today’s blog be any more boring?
i’m another long time reader who has finally had my fill of the “new” steve. i’m gone.
July 21st, 2009 at 1:57 PM
josi – i’ve been having similar thoughts. something has definitely changed with steve’s blog. it used to be as though he was “one of us.” now the lines seem blurred. it’s way different than it used to be – not better or worse, just different. at the very least, these interviews and friendships he’s building with former “contestants/actors” are influencing his writing greatly.
July 21st, 2009 at 1:57 PM
u please talk for urself. I found everything about Jake interesting and I will watch the show if he is the bachelor.
July 21st, 2009 at 2:00 PM
Do you think all those women in the audience really feel that sorry for Jake, like after his “I will always have feelings for her…” aww…puke! I really hope he’s not the next bachelor. And his totally forced “F*!% you!” comment, you could tell he was so nervous and wanted to immediately pray for forgiveness.
As for questions for Wes. I would like to know if he’s had any contact with Jillian since the show aired, or if she knows what a bad edit job he got. I hope she knows that he never really said any of the things they made it sound like he said, and that he really never had a girlfriend at any point before, during, or after the show. Where did Jake get the name name of his ex anyway? And why many of the guys called Wes out and said they were sure he had a girlfriend and that he was there for the wrong reasons.
July 21st, 2009 at 2:00 PM
u please speak for urself. I found everything about Jake interesting and I will watch the show if he is the bachelor.
July 21st, 2009 at 2:01 PM
Not sure if you’ve seen this from last month, but according to this interview it seems like she did pick someone….But who knows, maybe they’re already over the the ATFR.
http://www.okmagazine.com/2009/06/jillian-harris-second-chance-for-love-14928/
July 21st, 2009 at 2:06 PM
I was not happy to see that we will have to watch another episode of green short-shorts and blue tank top.
July 21st, 2009 at 2:14 PM
Did anyone else catch it when the guys accused Jake of pulling a ‘mesnick’ when he did his crying at the railing? I thought that was the highlight of the show. The Molly/Jason part made me want to rid myself of my dinner, how sappy! It was really a trainwreck of a show and I am sooo glad my Rangers were playing so there was something actually worth watching!
July 21st, 2009 at 2:21 PM
I am so over this season!
I am fed up with Steve and his man-crush on Wes. I was so looking forward to this week’s blog, but he spent more time writing about Wes, someone that is already out of the show, than on the actual recap of last night’s episode. Its getting really old! We already know he got a bad edit. Anybody whose parents are not related could see through that!
I can’t wait for a new season and a fresh start. I have had it with the drama, the man code, the editing, Wes, Jake, Dave and all those losers. I sincerely hope none of these guys are the new bachelor. It would be really boring and wouldn’t watch it.
As far a the ending, I dont even care anymore. I think Jillian is doing this for the experience, for the trips and being on TV. And if she ends up with someone along the way, then better yet. So I wouldnt feel bad if she ends up picking nobody. Although I am sure ABC has covered all they bases since the Brad fiasco, and will never let that happen.
July 21st, 2009 at 2:25 PM
I have to agree with the other posters .. there has been a shift in the mood of which this blog is written. RS is entitled to his opinion – it’s his blog .. but still, the reason most of us came here was for the hilarity of RS’s witty insight into the players of the show. Bring that back! I remember earlier blogs where I was crying because I was laughing so hard.
It was a ‘man-code’ fest on last night’s MTA no thanks to Dave .. he is the one that gets to me the most. It’s almost like he will attack you if you don’t agree with him. His arrogance with the smug look on his face makes me wanna beat the @@@@ out of him (aha .. just playing on his ‘threats’ against Juan).
I could go on but I won’t .. most of you have already voiced your opinions about others that I totally agree with.
stephlk74b / sally885 .. enjoyed your insights over the course of this season .. thanks
July 21st, 2009 at 2:56 PM
I agree with josi and eloquentblu. Reality Steve’s 7/20 blog changed its tone and focus. It was more fun to read his earlier recaps. Let’s hope Reality Steve isn’t a plant by ABC and that part of Wes’ deal was that he’d be the show’s bad guy in return for all kinds of free concert publicity, like in the last blog by RS, which seemed like it was promoting Wes’ music.
One thing I’d like to know — what’s stopping Jillian from saying no to all three guys (if they ask) but dating a couple of them after the show ends? Is there a contractual reason why she couldn’t do that? It would buy her time but loyal viewers would probably be upset if they were left hanging at season’s end.
July 21st, 2009 at 3:16 PM
I have to agree as well with some of the other posters about your blog. You defintely have a right to your opinion and post whatever you want to say but we miss how you use to do things. It seems like after Jasons season everything changed and now you are so determined to take this show down and destroy it.
Enough about that, I will be back next week to see what you have to say about the finale.
Steve we all like you or we wouldn’t be here every week reading your blog we are all just giving our opinions.
July 21st, 2009 at 3:20 PM
this blog is no fun anymore, RS you have a hard on for wes and your head exploded with your semi-fame on the D list
July 21st, 2009 at 3:56 PM
I am officially as sick of hearing about Wes than I am about Jason. I cannot wait until I can read an RS blog and not see either of their names in it.
I’ve only been reading the blog since early January, but have gone back and read previous seasons for fun and I agree with the other posters that something has changed. Steve, it’s your blog and you’re free to do what you want with it. As readers we have the choice to read or not to read. But if I’m being honest, I feel that between reading your blog and the CH & JH blogs, there is not much difference between them. You all have agendas and are so focused on completing those agendas that the entertainment and brilliant recaps that once dominated your writings is now almost non-existent. I hope that once this season ends you’ll go back to your old style, though I’m doubtful it will happen. I think you know too much about the inside workings of the show, and now that you’ve made friends with several of the guys/girls from the show I’m afraid that you’ll never be able to go back to writing in the same style you did before. Instead of writing as an observer, you’re now writing as someone in the Bachelor/Bachelorette inner circle.
I don’t mean any malice here, Steve. Your site was something I looked forward to reading every week. While I’m a 60+ hour a week worker, I’m also dealing with health/pain issues and your blog is one of the few out there that was fun to read and get my mind of things…and just laugh and enjoy. I even got my husband into the site. I guess I’m just a bit sad to see one of my guilty pleasures drift away.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:01 PM
Great blog, as usual. When Jason was sitting there with his arm around Molly as Chris mentioned the rough time they have been going through; Jason was flaring his nostrils, and I just imagined he was thinking, that reality steve has been a thorn in my freakin side. lol
July 21st, 2009 at 4:03 PM
Pam, thank you for pointing out that the guys were accusing Jake of pulling a “mesnick.” I have to admit I didn’t make out what they were saying. I too was sick of seeing Jason and Molly saying the same crap we hear every year..yes we are going to get married..we talk about it…yes she is moving to Seattle. ugggggggggggggggggggggggggg
July 21st, 2009 at 4:13 PM
Good job Steve. I like reading anything you write.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:14 PM
I’m done reading all this crap on this blog. RS’s blog has turned into the most negative rants abdout how everyone is stupid! GET OVER WES and ABC and yourself. UGGH.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:19 PM
STEVE – YOU HAVE CROSSED THE LINE BETWEEN BEING WES’ ADVOCATE, AND BEING HIS BUTT BUDDY. ENOUGH ALREADY!
July 21st, 2009 at 4:19 PM
Anyone else notice how Dave and Sasha came to Wes’ defense over the whole girlfriend issue? They weren’t allowed to say a whole lot but Sasha at one point get’s on Tanner 2 for saying things about Wes when he didn’t even know him. Seemed as though Dave and Sasha weren’t buying the Wes hate.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:26 PM
I still haven’t heard one thing in any Wes interview or anywhere else indicating he was on the show for any reason other than promoting his music. In the edit last night he said his manager told him he needed to stay on the show for at least 3 roses. And several of the bachelors said he had said he had a girl in Texas. And one of them said that he was told by Wes that Wes wrote all those songs on his CD (including the Jillian one) for his girl in Texas. Which means it was all written before he went on the show and he used the show to promote the song and his CD. At this point I couldn’t care less who Jillian picks and I bet she doesn’t either.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:30 PM
Dave again showed that he is a complete ass!!! Jillian is now happy being on her own.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:31 PM
I wrote a long post and it disappeared. (omg, conspiracy, I am being edited!). At this point I couldn’t care less who Jillian picks and I don’t think she does either. She looks “done” with it all. As far as Wes goes, either shit or get off the pot. Quit whining about being edited and go sue ABC. Or shut up already.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:33 PM
Oh my God Steve…will you lay off the Wes crap! You’ve got your head so far up Wes’ butt it’s a wonder you can see anything. Please understand that every time you defend Wes you make yourself look like nothing more than a bitter fool.
Your unsubstantiated claim that TB told Jason to pick and then dump Melissa makes you look dumb enough. You don’t have to compound things by defending a smart ass like Wes.
Please go back to being funny and stop being so bitter.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:40 PM
The Province says Kiptyn is the next Bachelor. Their theory is that Kiptyn was elevated to sainthood in “The Men Tell All…..
“That’s right: While bachelor Ed Swiderski, Kiptyn’s official competition in next week’s final showdown for Jillian Harris’s heart, was shown stumblingly drunk and, um, passing gas at one of the rose ceremonies, Kiptyn was shown passing words of wisdom on to kids at his hometown charity, where everyone cried a little over his unique ability to make a difference…” “Hmmm. A slurringly drunk, flatulent IT guy who likes karaoke, or a sober, compassionate mentor of disadvantaged kids? Are the show’s producers trying to humanize the obvious frontrunner while setting up Kiptyn for a future season?”
http://www.theprovince.com/Bachelorette+Kiptyn+Locke+next+Bachelor+role/1812381/story.html
July 21st, 2009 at 4:45 PM
Get over Wes, Mr. SR!!!!!! What is your deal? Why did you choose Wes to champion – why didn’t you pick someone else to obcess over, like Dave? Maybe he was he edited to make himself look like the jerk he revealed? What about Jake – was he edited to make himself look so perfect? Do you use a dart board? Eeney-meeney-miney-mo? You could choose any single bachelor, get on their bandwagon and harp incessantly that they were misquoted, unfairly edited and on and on and on! You have become ridiculous! Wes is such a flash-in-the-pan, yesterday’s news and you’re travelling over the country attending his rinky dink concerts, getting drunk, etc. What is Chihuahua, Mexico like this season??? Sterling character!!! PS – Your language is foul too!!!!!
July 21st, 2009 at 4:48 PM
Same here! I am sick of Mr. SR!!! Whiney! Whiney! What’s with him and his obcession with Wes?
@Teresa
July 21st, 2009 at 4:49 PM
Whats next, Steve, are you going to carry Wes’ lunch box and make sure he has a clean pair of underwear to wear each day? Do you plan to “take care” of him in the bath tub after the next show? You’re Wes love affair is really getting pretty disgusting.
I’ll agree the guy was probably done wrong by ABC, but doesn’t warrant your obsession with the guy.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:50 PM
I’m confused as to why no one is asking why ABC would cast someone or let someone stay on the show who was admittedly there for the wrong reasons… whether they were Wes’s words or ABC stringing together Wes’s words together… it’s still wrong to have someone like that on a show where the ultimate goal is a relationship in the end. and to manipulate the bachelorette like that… ABC should be speaking up and taking some of the blame for Wes/how they portrayed him.
July 21st, 2009 at 4:56 PM
Am I the only one here that thinks that Ed is gay? I seriously don’t buy into the whole “He has a herd of women waiting for him in Chicago”, because let’s face it, WHICH WOMEN would wait for a man that wears those shorts? Seriously. Any man that falls asleep while a half naked woman is rubbing oil on his sunburnt back is not falling asleep b/c he is tired or b/c he is using Jillian. He is SO gay. Which if he is, that’s totally fine, I could care less, but it amazes me that Jillian doesn’t seem to grasp this idea at all.
And what gives with Laurel? Clearly she must have some kind of power over these guys; especially Brad Womack who was my favorite bachelor. Reality Steve, if you could be so kind and tell Wes he should introduce Brad and I that would be great
Love this site and as much as I hate to admit it, it all makes sense. I will probably still watch the show; it’s addicting. However, I do agree that their (ABC) main concern isn’t about finding love. Sad really.
July 21st, 2009 at 5:03 PM
Agreed. Advocating for some justice on behalf of Wes is one thing, but come on, you are practically becoming his PR agent at this point. Even with all the supposed editing and attack on his integrity perpetuated by ABC/Bachelorette, Wes still went on the show to self-promote and he still talked smack and acted like an ass in general. Is some of it understandable? Absolutely. But he’s hardly a victim in these circumstances either. He needs to own some responsibility for himself first. And your cradling him ain’t doing anyone any service.
July 21st, 2009 at 5:08 PM
This blog has a severe case of TMW (too much Wes). Let’s move on. It is not too late to cancel the next interview!
July 21st, 2009 at 5:14 PM
RS, I am dissapointed in you! this blog was all about Wes.
It’s getting creepy!
If Wes’s crappy behavior was ALL editing and we didn’t see the REAL him, then WHY DID JILLIAN GET RID OF HIM? Come on RS, stop obsessing and following Wes around. It’s a tad weird.
July 21st, 2009 at 5:15 PM
Steve you may have already touched on this and it may be something so irrelevant but I am curious anyway. In the press, Michael Stagliano has defended Wes time and again and said he never heard Wes say he has a girlfriend AND that Wes was being cleverly edited, however when Chris asked the guys who agreed with Jakes move to tell Jillian Wes had a GF Michael reluctantly held his hand up. I just thought that was strange. Peace.
July 21st, 2009 at 5:20 PM
sammi – Wes’ “BUTT BUDDY” – Hilarious! That is exactly what I was thinking!
July 21st, 2009 at 5:20 PM
People, please grow up. Reality Steve has. Yes, he used to be a great court jester, but now he is transitioning into a serious journalist. The networks act with impugnity and think they can damage a person’s credibility for entertainment and ratings. We need people like RS to tell the truth. The public should be hopping mad that the TV stations — and news are feeding us such driven and intentionally hurting innocent people and their lives. We want integrity and the truth. Why do you think Chris was so nasty and mad last night? If Wes were lying, he would have dismissed him as a pathetic baffoon. Instead, he is trying desperately to bury Wes deeper as his reputation depends on it. Chris has been exposed as being a naked host. (Emperor with no clothes.)
Thank God RS is defending Wes. I am not a Wes supporter per say. I don’t know the man well enough to be all that invested. But what was done to him last night on MTA was disgusting…that montage and then slander against his name because of something Tanner may have misinterpreted when the men were all alone in the house. Heck, Tanner lives in his own little imaginary feet world. He is the credible source? As Dave and Sasha said, he did not have sufficient information nor did he challenge Wes on air so that Jillian and producers could call him on it and Wes could either admit guilt or defend himself. None of that happened.
Given the producer’s indulgence of Tanner’s foot fetish, I think there is a possibility he was in tight with them….Even Jillian sung his high praises. Yes he is cute and hilarious in a way, but what normal woman looking for a husband keep around a guy who is obsessed about her body parts.
As for Dave, I think it is possible he was considered for the role of Bachelor. The only reason I say this is that RS said that there were numerous takes of his first impression scene with Jillian….That was staged so he’d get the first rose. Hmmm…suggests a tight relationship between Dave and the Bachelorette production crew to pull that off. “Sorry…we couldn’t name you the Bachelor. Here have the first rose.”
Good work, RS. Maybe now it is time to branch off into serious reporting…
Going back to Wes, I’d like to know why he was such a threat to warrant the treatment he did. Oh, gosh…he might have had a girlfriend…Shock! Horror! (Didnt Dave admit to the same — and insinuated that the others did as well…) Wes came on the show for his music. Shock! Horror! By Wes’ accounts, the producers instructed him to serenade Jillian and wanted to play up his profession. What was his sin? Playing the game? Didn’t the producers tell the men to play the game. There is no legitimate reason to attack him as they had and to ruin his good name. There is something else going on….Maybe related to Brad and Jeremy….They felt their franchise was ruined over Jason….or Brad..and so they made Wes pay? Who knows ..but there is more to this than meets the eye…Thank God RS is standing up and saying ENOUGH! ABC holds public trust responsibility and the public demands INTEGRITY! You go, Reality Steve!
Questions for Wes:
1. Will you sue ABC?
2, Why did photos of Laurel leak out around the time of Wes’ ouster if they were not in “cahoots?”
3. Will Wes hold a press conference or get his accusers together with him in a room to call out ABC over this nonsense?
4. Were you really just all over Jillian because Jeremy advised you of that strategy?
5. Do you feel the men were motivated by jealousy that you were more down to earth and that they couldn’t imagine how someone who wasn’t as pretentious as they were was winning the heart of the bachelorette when all the supposed “good guys” (ie, rich, polished, clean cut) were being cut?
6.Did you know cameras were going to be on you all the time..and if so, why didn’t you hold your tounge more?
7. What is driving ABC’s vendetta against you? What could you possibly have done to have made them decide to destroy your career and reptuation? WHy are you…or perhaps the Bachelor social clique from which you sprung….such a threat.
That’s all for now. Good luck, Reality Steve. Posters, please understand that out insatiable need to be “entertained” is preventing us from seeing the truth. RS is presenting some painful truths about the way our media is operating. Wish him luck. We need people more like him. He’s like the Rush Limbaugh of bloggers.
Yes, the Bachelor/ette is just a stupid diversion and reality TV show…but it is the canary in the coal mine. Let Steve smoke out the truth. You go, Reality Steve!
July 21st, 2009 at 5:43 PM
I have to join in with many others here who are sick of you defending Wes like you really are his pr guy or manager. I totally believe that Wes was edited to look like a villain or a monster and understand how angry and disgusted he feels right about now. But I also believe that he did come on the show with his own agenda, namely publicity for his music career. I have said before that I don’t think Wes is a demon or a saint. I think he’s just a guy who likes to shoot off his mouth before he thinks. If you go on this show, then you have to know that they will edit you to fill the role that they want you to play. So now Wes is the wiser for this experience. Let’s hope he learns from it.
I will also say that it was pretty low for ABC to trash him on the MTA without letting him be there to defend himself. That’s about as bad as it gets, and it does show that they have something to hide. It’s the ultimate cowardice to attack someone and make him out to be subhuman, without letting him speak up for himself. But that shouldn’t surprise any of us who have watched this show for a while. ABC plays dirty and they play for keeps. They are ticked off about Wes going around giving interviews spilling all their little secrets. Last night was their way of getting back at him.
Steve, I do kind of wish that you would get back to just doing your usual snarky commentary about the show and not get so chummy with its rejects. I think it kind of compromises where you are coming from here. Also, this blog is just too much Wes. You will give him his chance to have his say this week, so you didn’t need to spend so much time talking about him. There is such a thing as overkill.
I totally think Jake is a phony and a fake. He is a self-righteous boor who thinks he nees to play God. He backstabbed Wes for his own selfish reasons. Pathetic! Nothing he says comes across as real or spontaneous at all. Even that stupid smile that he thinks is so irrestible, comes across as forced. I think his career as an actor just went down the toilet. I can only hope he is not the next bachelor. It would be like watching paint dry. As far as Dave, he needs some serious therapy. The guy is just clueless about his inappropriate behavior. He was way over the top in his actions towards Juan. Just because someone is different from you and may not live by your so-called “mancode”, doesn’t mean there is something wrong with him. What a jerk!
Finally, I am starting to think that Jillian ends up with no one. Ed is the guy she really wants, but he may confess something that makes her let him go. I don’t see her having any real feelings for Kip. If Reid does go back to propose, I fear it will be too little, too late. As for Jason and Molly, well let’s just say the sight of them made me sick to my stomach.
July 21st, 2009 at 6:03 PM
I somewhat agree with Steve. I think Wes was edited horribly. However, I do think that he went on the show for the publicity. Do I know if he started to have feelings for Jillian? No. Do I care? No. Everyone is edited however the show decides to edit. Is this right or wrong? That is what you sign up for when you go on any show. Will all this bad editing make me stop watching the show? No. I love to tune in every week and make fun of the folks crying because the person that sent them home didnt realize how wonderful they are.
I am soo sick of seeing Molly and Jason. If they are both sooo happily in love and going to spend rest of their lives together, then why hasnt she moved to Seattle? It isnt like she had a wonderful job that she is giving up. She is in retail. Why does ABC feel a need to cram all these soo called happy couples down our throats? I am amazed we didnt have yet another recap on Ryan/Trista. Anyone can be happily married if you somewhat like each other, ABC gives you a million bucks as a wedding gift, and pays for your wedding….
Just my thoughts.
July 21st, 2009 at 6:22 PM
Thank you Wes supporter 2 for the best comment post thus far. This show is not the same show that it started out to be. Gone are the Trista and Ryan days. It is about RATINGS, at the expense of ruining reputations and lives. And because the show has changed, Steve’s blog has had to change. If you don’t like it, don’t read it. Good work RS. Keep it coming. Keep hanging out with Wes. Some of us appreciate the work that you are doing to expose the realities of reality tv.
July 21st, 2009 at 6:31 PM
I agree with a lot of the posters here and pleasantly surprised to see their posts. Enough about Wes. He’s milking this for all the publicity he can get. Even he said even bad publicity is good. And he finds someone like RS who can rattle that chain even more. RS’ blogs are all about how wonderful Wes is (get a room), how awful Chris, ABC and the whole show are and then it’s “and you know they were referring to me”. Really?! Reminds me of the line in a song. “But enough about me, lets talk about you. What do you think about me?” I don’t care for Jason and Molly, but I don’t hate them. Let them go. The show last night was hilarious, especially the outtakes. Jillian was cool and straight forward when talking to the guys. I’m beginning to wonder why RS even watches the show. His earlier blogs were funny, but wow someone must have really done him wrong. More than a bit over the top.
July 21st, 2009 at 6:45 PM
It’s probably easier to believe Wes is all-scumbag-all-the-time than to believe a television network could behave in this manner. But my ?? is, why take it out on RS? I think it’s pretty cool that he got Wes to do an interview for all of us to hear – take from it what you will – RS tends to believe him based on his knowledge of this and past seasons. To me, RS’s POV comes from a guy who A-has inside information B-has had contact with ACTUAL people on the show AFTER they’ve returned to reality and C-someone who has seen this routine play out season after season in one way or another. I mean really, how many of us would tune in if Jillian’s season was simple and without drama – likely, a whole lot less of us…
For the time RS has invested in this show and this blog, it doesn’t surprise me that he is eager to get to know the controversial participants. PLUS, the show isn’t over yet, there is more response to come from Wes.. In my opinion, RS is trying to get us as much ‘horses mouth’ material that he possibly can – and he’s getting bashed? Ironic that this commentary is being written by a Canadian girl – RS may have to reconsider his Northern slams ;o)
Point is, if I had the opportunity to ask the ??’s and speak to the show’s participants – I sure would – maybe it would change my opinion or open my eyes – and if so, great. I don’t think RS is asking anyone to agree with his POV, just putting everything out there that he knows – and maximizing every contact he can get for the benefit of us bachelorette addicts!!
That’s my take I don’t even have an opinion of Wes one way or another really – it’s TV peeps…
(strapping on my helmet tightly – preparing for blogger wack-a-mole reaction most certainly looming lol!!)
July 21st, 2009 at 6:52 PM
Steve,
When are you going to finish last weeks update? You indicated you were working on something significant but instead just left us all hanging. Was it a dead end? I trust your big story was not Wes and his follow-up interview. Maybe you are with Jillian! Now that would make a great ending.
July 21st, 2009 at 6:53 PM
I am all to tired from this. I feel for Jillian and what she has to go through.
The men were like babbling idiots last night. Grow up. Alright. Who has not farted. they are eating the wrong foods. Mainly with wheat as the main ingredient. Michael Stag: And for God sake man make it a little louder next time. At least he was polite and went off camera for his flatulating experience.
Dave: Man Code my “ASS” A freaking truck driver from the cornfields of Iowa?????. I can see them. “Hey honey where we sleeping tonight…..A little truck stop off I-64.. yaddy yaddy. Whats for dinner…….flatulating causing beef burritos and coke……No wonder he has so many EX’S
For Jason: As Chef Gordon Ramsay says “PISS OFF”
the way I see it ABC needs a new fresh face for the next Bachelor. Not someone we have seen.
Kiptyn would be so boring. Hey “look at my abs” Big friggin deal. there is more to life folks. Can abs pay your bills or cook your meals, take out the trash, drive your cars…No
Ed if he wears the Magnum PI outfit again I will come on the show and burn them.
Reid: Couldn’t handle 30 women let alone one..
My offer still stands to meet for coffee no camera’s at ABC’s expense……LOL
Bring your gf’s if you want.
Jillian knows where she can find me.
July 21st, 2009 at 6:53 PM
I am all to tired from this. I feel for Jillian and what she has to go through.
The men were like babbling idiots last night. Grow up. Alright. Who has not farted. they are eating the wrong foods. Mainly with wheat as the main ingredient. Michael Stag: And for God sake man make it a little louder next time. At least he was polite and went off camera for his flatulating experience.
Dave: Man Code my “ASS” A freaking truck driver from the cornfields of Iowa?????. I can see them. “Hey honey where we sleeping tonight…..A little truck stop off I-64.. yaddy yaddy. Whats for dinner…….flatulating causing beef burritos and coke……No wonder he has so many EX’S
For Jason: As Chef Gordon Ramsay says “PISS OFF”
the way I see it ABC needs a new fresh face for the next Bachelor. Not someone we have seen.
Kiptyn would be so boring. Hey “look at my abs” Big friggin deal. there is more to life folks. Can abs pay your bills or cook your meals, take out the trash, drive your cars…No
Ed if he wears the Magnum PI outfit again I will come on the show and burn them.
Reid: Couldn’t handle 30 women let alone one..
When you are ready for something real my offer still stands to meet for coffee no camera’s at ABC’s expense……LOL
Bring your gf’s if you want.
Jillian knows where she can find me.
July 21st, 2009 at 7:11 PM
RS I am kind of disappointed with your blog. I became a fan last season but something smells funny. To me, you are coming off a little on the creepy Wes groupy side (you partied with him and his band and crashed at their hotel? oooookaaaaay) I give you props for giving the man a chance to say his peace and defend himself and I agree that ABC and the MTA would never have ever let him on because in order to defend himself he would have to point out all the fake-palooza and editing (and all those mid-western overweight single women who are creaming their pants over Jake just couldn’t fathom the show being fake). BUT I have to but… you seem to have lost your objectivity and man of the people reporting. Please don’t become one of those cheese-ass (you see what I did there) celebrity wannabe hanger-on people.
July 21st, 2009 at 7:15 PM
I think Wes should be the next Bachelor. He could have 24 women and Reality Steve to choose from. Every show would include a song from Wes and his band. Then he can eliminate all of the girl;s and end up with his true love. Then Wes and RS can live happily ever after.
July 21st, 2009 at 7:17 PM
Wes brought the bad edit upon himself. He went on the show to sell CDs. Everyone seems to agree on that. He admitted it. Did he really think ABC was going to allow him to openly talk about it, brag about it to the guys and pimp his songs and his band on TV and not be made into a schmuck. As unlikely as these things are to work out, the premise of the show is still to find love. He did not go on the show for that. He got his exposure and had he not run his mouth so much to the guys and to the cameras, they wouldn’t have had so much solid material to “edit” him as a slimy loser. I’m sure he’s nice but he went on the show for the wrong reason, got exposed and got spanked by ABC.
July 21st, 2009 at 7:19 PM
I respect that so many readers want RS to return to the snark of his earlier posts. But, truthfully, I don’t know how he can at this new point in his blogging. If RS is really trying to show readers the power of the edit, (albeit through a lot of condescension toward his own fanbase), then he has to acknowledge that many of the show’s contestants can’t be held accountable for ridiculous behaviors or poked fun at for over-the-top things they say because, hey, those things might very well have been manipulated or edited, too.
RS is kind of in a quandry. He’ll be talking out of both sides of his mouth if he defends some people because they receive bad edits, but makes fun of others over behaviors and statements made on the very same show he says is guilty of misquotes and malicious editing.
July 21st, 2009 at 7:20 PM
I think this MTA was the most boring yet! Not that any of these are Emmy Award winners, but way too much repetitive conversations on man code, Wes, crying, polling the guys, and no structure to anything, thrown in with some totally random audience questions (where did they get these people anyway??). Could of had Mike Stag up in the chair for a little one one one – he at least had a hometown and got asked a question and a half??….too much of an attempt to make this controversial, and not enough talk about the final two guys, and some speculation on that? Isn’t that what the show is ultimately about?? The ATFR better have something meaty to it – don’t make me watch another hour with Ed / Kimp / Reid broken-hearted….I’ll keep watch tho!
July 21st, 2009 at 7:34 PM
@Rodeojones
Yes I noticed that too. They were cut off though, but sounded like Sasha said something like he may have come here for a different reason but it’s not the reason you think? And then we didn’t hear another word from him. Thought it was interesting that they were trying to say things, but seemed like they were edited out or just cut off completely.
July 21st, 2009 at 7:36 PM
Keep it up Steve, I’m behind you even if many of this weeks posters aren’t. Apparently many of your readers don’t get that the show isn’t real. That’s right, most of you don’t get it. If you did you would back Steve up on this. You say that you know the show isn’t real but then go on to make comments about the people on the show like it is real. How can you comment on or make fun of someone when you know that the edits have been scripted?
I have one thing to add about last nights show. Why didn’t anyone call Jake out on why he waited so long to tell Jillian about Wes? During the rose ceremony that Jill brought the whole thing up Jake said he would be pissed if he found out someone had a girlfriend. Then two weeks later when Tanner came clean to the guys that it he that told Jillian, Jake said, “if I found out someone had a girlfriend on here I would step forward”. Now Jake is saying he knew all along that Wes had a girlfriend, I have to call B.S. on that.
July 21st, 2009 at 7:42 PM
I’m a “facebook friend” with Wes and there are pics of him and Tanner P. on there hanging out after a show. So why was Tanner P. going after Wes so badly last night if they’re friends in real life? Doesn’t make any sense.
July 21st, 2009 at 7:43 PM
Oh and Jake was SICKENING last night!
July 21st, 2009 at 7:53 PM
Jason and Molly- some of it was lame but why are some of you ripping into them? In theory this show is about people finding love so why wouldn’t they trot out a possible success story. This is also why 95% of people watch this show, to see someone find love and the person they are going to marry. I agree with Steve about believing it when I see it though.
July 21st, 2009 at 7:57 PM
RS, I have been a fan of yours for a while now. I even told a lot of people to read your blog, that it was the best one on the internet. Now, I’m telling them that it’s not worth their time. Get over your man crush with Jeremy and Wes, and your crush with Holly and Deanna. Do what you do best, and that is to be sarcastic, and sophomoric. Last point I have to make is this…have you ever heard the expression…”don’t bite the hand that feeds you”?
July 21st, 2009 at 8:01 PM
Looking forward to hearing the interview w/ Wes, part 2! I agree what you said about Jake coming across as holier-than-thou. I really hope he is not the next bachelor.
I agree about Jason and Molly, I’ll also believe it when I see it. But honestly, Steve…wouldn’t it be sort of perfect if they DO end up together? Don’t the 2 most self-absorbed people on earth deserve each other? At least it would be sparing the rest of the female population from Jason Mesnick!
July 21st, 2009 at 8:12 PM
Couldn’t agree more.
July 21st, 2009 at 8:19 PM
I haven’t read all the posts, so I hope I’m not beating a dead horse. But here it is: If Wes said certain words, and his lips moved in sync with the words, and there wasn’t a cutaway while he was talking, didn’t he say those words? I understand editing out good stuff and keeping bad stuff, but he must have said that he was looking forward to lots of sex when he got back to Texas (for example). If there is no way he said that (and a few other choice things) educate me. How was it done?
July 21st, 2009 at 8:22 PM
yawn. I am so tired of Wes. I don’t knock him b/c probably 9 out of ten people who go on these shows have some agenda or issue- career,fame, personality disorder, making a noncommitted lover jealous, etc. But lets face it, even though the guy got screwed over, isn’t he possibly still a bit if a d-bag? Fawning over every ding-bat you get an interview with seems to be a pattern.
Anyway, I would be slightly more interested in hearing from Laurel. While she had cut Brad and Wes loose before their respective stints, they obviously had their drawers still in a bunch to be talking about/with her to the point it disrupted the show.
July 21st, 2009 at 8:30 PM
@lglover614
Wes talks about that one in his interview. He owns up to saying that. He says that the while they were waiting for Jill to show they were all talking about how they hadn’t had sex in a long time. That’s when he said that. It’s still not a cool thing to say but in that context it’s not as bad as it seems.
July 21st, 2009 at 8:30 PM
Okay RS, a couple of questions for Wes:
1. Is RS as good a kisser as Jillian?
2. (2 part question) Part 1: Does RS fart as loudly as Michael Stag? Part 2: Is the amount of Jack RS drinks directly related to the offensiveness of this offense?
3. Do you get free RS merchandise for giving interviews to RS? (Better cash in quick – they’ve almost run out!)
4. Does RS’s love come any easier than ABCs’?
Can’t wait to hear Wes’ answers!
July 21st, 2009 at 8:48 PM
1. I was wondering why she hadn’t moved to Seattle too, but then I remembered Jason’s reply to Chris’ question about his career. All he said is, I started a website. http://www.jasonsplace.com It’s more of a blog. He only has two sponsors on it. They are big ones but I doubt he’s making any real money with it. So basically she is the only one with a job.
2. They had a couple of minutes on this one episode. How is that ABC cramming them down our throats? Plus this whole idea of the show is to find some for the bachelor/ette to marry. The shows success rate sucks so why wouldn’t they show what might be their second success? Actually why do you watch the show if the idea of people falling in love sickens you so much?
July 21st, 2009 at 9:06 PM
Chris Harrison admits Wes is right:
Here is an excerpt from Chris’ blog,
“Wes had called several of the guys (I’ll let you guess who) to make sure they would back him up if he came back and only then did he call and ask to be back on the show. My opinion was I’ve heard enough B.S. to last me a lifetime with this guy.”
Translation: Oh crap! we can’t keep these guys quiet if we get them all in the same room.If Wes gets even only a couple of the guys to back him up then ABC will be exposed as frauds. If none of the guys were going to back him up then ABC would have had him on in a heart beat. ABC is scared plain and simple. I agree with RS, if ABC isn’t guilty of hacking up Wes’ edits then all they need to do is post up some of the uncut footage.
July 21st, 2009 at 9:12 PM
WES DOESN’T HAVE A GIRLFRIEND BECAUSE HE HAS A “BOYFRIEND” – REALITY STEVE.
July 21st, 2009 at 9:32 PM
I have been all over looking for some insight on how the show will end up. No one has mentioned anything about the special ABC will run with all the old bachelors and bachelorettes that were not chosen. I saw a commercial with all of them at the mansion. There is a shot of the hot tub where Tanner P. is sucking on one of the girls’ toes. And seated right next to him in the hot tub is REID!! So, there is no way Reid could have been chosen. I don’t know if that narrows it down for everyone, but did they not realize they ran that footage before the finale and Reid was in it? So, even though the fact that he comes back will make more viewers tune in, I’m not looking forward to watching him be rejected AGAIN.
And about Wes… I think it’s very easy to tell that a LOT of Wes’ words were taken way out of context to make him look like a jerk. It’s very obvious because all of his conversations were so choppy. The blatent things he said at the end seemed to be his way of saying, “If they are going to make me look like a jerk anyway, I at least want to have some fun with this!”
July 21st, 2009 at 9:38 PM
What is it about this season’s show that makes everyone go ballistic? I can’t believe how abrasive and vitriolic all the comments have become. It’s entertainment, right???? I think what’s bothering me the most is that a major network has just gone too far with their ruse. The audience knows it’s being sucked into head games and doesn’t like it when their intelligence is insulted. There’s also a lot of money involved, TV ratings, bad mouthing, degenerate humor, alcohol, steamy scenes, etc. etc. etc. But this stuff sells and everyone’s buying. In TV land, controversy and bad PR is a very good thing.
July 21st, 2009 at 9:52 PM
RS what an absoulte dissapointment your site has turned out to be and a total waste of time.
July 21st, 2009 at 10:03 PM
RealitySteve, please listen to the majority of the comments. Your column is no longer any fun. What is with the bromance with Wes. Most people have no use for him and certainly do not want to hear from him or anything about him. Time to go back to your old format. I might add that it is way way too long. I’ll check the next couple of blogs and hope that you give this thing for Wes.
July 21st, 2009 at 10:04 PM
Oops, I meant give up this thing for Wes.
July 21st, 2009 at 10:21 PM
Steve, why didn’t you call this “Defend Wes and throw in a few comments about MTA to keep it at least slightly on the original subject”? Has it become your sole focus to be Wes’ public defender? Surely seems so.
July 21st, 2009 at 10:23 PM
To be frank, the way RS writes his blog now, it is very difficult to tell if he is being truthful, or just spinning a tall tale as well. I think he’s gotten a little full of himself now that he’s hobknobbing, and don’t find him as a credible source any longer.
July 21st, 2009 at 10:34 PM
Oh brother. RS, bitter, party of one!
Ditto TxBon and Sirtriz. Wes is an ass, plain and simple. Publicist, indeed.
July 21st, 2009 at 10:35 PM
RS, you are an idiot – Wes has you totally snowed. He is playing you just the way he did Jillian & ABC. If you didn’t have a column, he wouldn’t give you the time of day. Think about it, he is such a bad singer & has a band that was going nowhere so he goes on TV (Bachelorette) saying controversial & outrageous remarks to draw attention to him, sings a song (so everyone gets to know his worthless band) & then has the nerve to deny it all to look like the poor, pathetic, used guy. If ABC slandered him (like he said they did), he would have sued. He’s a liar & I heard his band really stinks.
July 21st, 2009 at 10:42 PM
“I think Wes should be the next Bachelor. He could have 24 women and Reality Steve to choose from. Then he can eliminate all of the girl;s and end up with his true love. Then Wes and RS can live happily ever after.”
“WES DOESN’T HAVE A GIRLFRIEND BECAUSE HE HAS A “BOYFRIEND” – REALITY STEVE.”——————— Holy crap, we’re in some kind of mind synch now, I was going to write the same things. And be sure to have Laurel on the show, since she must be itching to be on there after dating 3 guys associated with Bachelor/Bachelorette. What’s the odds of that anyway?
July 21st, 2009 at 10:51 PM
Steve, maybe when you get over your “Bromance” with Wes you will see what we all see and what you are too blind to see right now. I am sure that Wes is a good ol’ boy but stop getting all over your readers who don’t want to give up the mindset that the guy has a girlfriend. That is not the point Steve, and it is not what all of us women who watch this show for romance are harping on. What you have not even mentioned or alluded to, is the fact that Wes has never once said that he even liked Jillian. So he was using her and feeding her lines of crap just to get his air time on tv to promote himself. Whether or not Jillian is pretty, smart or even remotely interesting, it still stings to watch her being made a fool of by a fool like Wes. So Steve let us know when you will be done with your crush and when you plan on stop patting yourself on the back with the comments that everyone is responding to something that you said and are somehow about you, so that we can tune back in for some laughs.
July 21st, 2009 at 10:56 PM
Enough already with Wes!!! I know you feel he was wronged and are trying to help him out but I am sick of reading about him!
I usually love reading your recaps but this is just too much.
Can we please stop talking about this guy and have some fun with what is left of the season.
July 21st, 2009 at 10:56 PM
Wow Steve- I have been a fan for a few years. “before you were famous”. and wow…you sold out.. not to ABC though. A little star struck are we? Puhlease…Wes Sucks. his music sucks… just another country wannabe. In the past you would have made a few comments now you are hangin with him and all defensive. ick. I’m not saying ABC didn’t script a little here…Ed leaving and coming back, the “chemistry” but you found a new low… defending yucky Wes…. your new bff. so long steve.
July 21st, 2009 at 11:40 PM
Thought it was nice to hear what Wes is like outside of the show. More backstory makes Steve’s columns more entertaining in my view. Wes has done a brilliant job of getting the most PR out of this. And why is Chris Harrison so upset that Wes did a little advance work to rally his allies at the MTA? Considering all of the producing and manipulation going on by the show, it shouldn’t have scared them off. It’s mind-boggling that the show was too afraid to have him appear. Ultimately it worked out well for him though because his surrogates put in good words and he didn’t take any new hits.
By the way, I don’t think there is a person on that show that didn’t go on for publicity/business reasons. Jillian stated in an interview that she went on the Bachelor thinking it would be good publicity for her company. If you are not looking for publicity, there is absolutely no reason to humiliate yourself on TV, thus the lack of any sort of normal, successful professional participants.
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:03 AM
WELL SAID!!! TOTALLY AGREE
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:40 AM
I get it…ABC sucks, they profile and categorize people as they see fit and this is supposed to be news to anyone? I think not. This is done on every reality TV show. I believe that anyone that goes on these type of shows has a motive and what better way to promote themselves or whatever they need to promote than to go on a reality TV show. This season Wes had his music, Jesse has a winery, Reid has a real estate business, etc., etc., etc. I get that ABC portrayed Wes in a really bad light, BUT he does not appear to be a stand up guy to me and I got bad vibes from the minute he stepped out of the limo. I’m sure ABC twisted lots of things, but I think is portrayal on the show is pretty accurate. He seemed to be there to tell people, I’m a singer and I have a CD coming out soon! I get that Reality Steve is trying to let people in on what really went on, but a lot of the guys on the reunion show seemed to think he was only there to promote his music and nothing more. If it’s true that he has all these emails from the guys supporting him, post them. He can have his “manager” score an interview with one of the TV news magazines and get his story out there. BUT I’ll bet you lots of people will be coming out of the woodwork saying pretty much the same thing – he’s no good and what you saw is the real Wes. At this point, he shouldn’t worry about the contract or being sued. I don’t think that’s a can of worms ABC wants to open.
One more things – if he really didn’t believe that you might meet someone and fall in love and perhaps make things work, then he should have left on the very first night. But of course he couldn’t do that – he wouldn’t have been able to promote his CD. Hope Chihuahua is excited about his new song
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:07 AM
If the show goes away, will you go away? Careful what you wish for here, Steve, because after all, this is your tenuous claim to fame. Like many others have said, this crush on Wes is getting ridiculous. Listen, I appreciated you raising the hatchet job he received and giving him some space to air his grievances but enough is enough. I don’t want to hear about your drunken escapades and hanging with the man.
Perhaps it is a case of getting too big of an ego but now we’re treated to you trying hard to suck up to past bachelor/ettes and shilling your clothing line. Too bad. Scrabble put it nicely – “RS is kind of in a quandry. He’ll be talking out of both sides of his mouth if he defends some people because they receive bad edits, but makes fun of others over behaviors and statements made on the very same show he says is guilty of misquotes and malicious editing.”
And who is this ‘Singlebachelor’ who keeps on using this comment section as his own personal love letter to Jillian?! Creepy.
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:20 AM
Reality Steve, thank you for making me laugh so hard that my face hurt. I like it that you call it as you see it, and then some! I am also extremely thankful for the interview with Wes, and am humbled by it, too. I know how most reality tv shows work,and how situations are staged…but I am embarrassed to say that I fell for thinking the worst about Wes. Since Wes is a believer, I know I can say that even the Word of God (The Bible) states that it is always best to hear all sides to a story you hear, because when you hear one side, it all sounds good and true, but when you hear the other side, then you’re able to piece the truth together. (Proverbs 18: 17 The first to present his case seems right,till another comes forward and questions him. )
anyhow, I pray for Wes’ vindication and I thank you for getting the truth out there about these “reality tv shows” and how damaging it can be to a person. In this case, I think it damaged Wes and his family/friends; it damages the viewer (as it fueled hate), and I think the TV station needs to be held accountable for this shameful behavior of a human being(s).
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:44 AM
I’ve been thinking about this further, and, yes, it was very exciting when RS broke the Jason/Melissa/Molly scandal last Bachelor season. For awhile after that it was very interesting to read RS’s blog and see what kind of inside info he may have acquired on the inner workings of the show and get a few spoilers. But now he seems obsessed with breaking a big story and getting all possible dirt to the point where I’m not sure his info is really reliable anymore because he does not come across as an objective reporter but rather ego-driven. ABC has an agenda, Wes has an agenda, and RS has an agenda. Also, I don’t find any humor in his latest posts. As one person posted, RS is now in a catch-22 where he can’t really make commentary on anybody on the show because if his argument is that the show is all scripted and edited, how do you know the validity of anyone’s intention or character on the show? You can’t consequently side with or poke fun at any of the contestants or trust anyone’s analysis of what takes place. Ironically trying to undo the show may also be the undoing of the popularity of this blog.
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:13 AM
who cares if ABC lies or Wes lies? it’s just a freaking reality show. whatever problems there are have more to do with the stupidity of those who confound real people with characters on realityTV. people just have to leave real people alone in their real lives. period. having said that, is there really such a thing as bad publicity for a little known singer like Wes? i am sure he has been getting a lot of shit lately, but i’m positive that the new fans he has won over are still more than those he would have got if he hadn’t gone on national tv. i believe that he or his manager already thought about that before entering the show. so enough with this reality vs editing debate. it is not news and it is just boring.
July 22nd, 2009 at 5:34 AM
The trickle down effect is working. ABC has planted the seeds and reaped what they’ve sown. The participants have become their chaffe. I hope these people were well compensated or met their agenda.
The only thing that will redeem this show in my mind is if Jillian actually professes she’s found “the one” next week. If the show does that, then it’s accomplished its advertised purpose — which is what I initially tuned in for. If she doesn’t find her soulmate, I’ve completely wasted my time in being sucked into this soap opera.
July 22nd, 2009 at 6:38 AM
lol Della once you give in to the fact that this is a lightly scripted soap opera with unprofessional actors filling the roles, life becomes much easier. I tell myself that the lead character does get to give input on their leading man (or lady)
July 22nd, 2009 at 6:58 AM
whoa kev22..nobody is making you come into this site to read what Steve has to say, so get off your high horse! If you don’t like what’s being put out here, then please feel free to leave..the sooner the better. Steve’s only telling it like it is, the same as he always has. It’s people like you that spoil everything.
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:06 AM
Steve and Wesley sitting in a tree
K-I-S-S-I-N-G!!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:07 AM
I enjoyed the first interview. But what can he possibly say the second time around that we haven’t already heard!
Enough is enough.
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:12 AM
c’mon people, why all the hate. If you recall (or some may not, because apparently they read only parts of ur blog and then hurry up to comment), RS did an interview with Megan Parris because her edit was crappy too. This time ABC went way overboard with Wes’s edit and so RS is giving him more blog time to tell his side of the story.
maybe after much of ABC’s shady schemes are out in the open, they might either cancel this show or revert back to the good ol days of finding “true love”. This show was real fun to watch earlier and so was RS posts becasue there wasn’t so much of manipulating. but nowadays since there is so much of behind the scenes stuff, I think RS, being a faithful blogger of this show owes it to us to let us know part of the truth.
Mind you people RS has always known there was some amount of manipulation and grey in this show, but only now as the shadiness is reachign an atrocious level is he coming out in the open.
Thanks RS and continue blogging this show for us.
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:43 AM
I’m glad to come on here and see I’m not the only one who was bored to tears reading about Wes Wes Wes in this last blog. We get that he added a lot of strength to your blog with his first interview, but how much more do you need to go on and on and on with him?
Aside from that, did anyone else find it interesting that the shot of Reid at the very end appeared to be stuck in there and seemed very out of place? If I remember correctly, the voice-overs and music had ended so it was just like let’s just stick this in here real quick and show everyone that Reid comes back. Since RS had already said this was going to be the case (or at least strongly speculated) I wonder if ABC is tired of being one step behind so after all was said and done and the episode was already complete (notice while music and voice-overs were playing they only showed his legs and Jillian’s “shocked” face) they put that little clip in at the very end so as not to be like “yes Reid comes back, we showed that, no one else can take credit for uncovering it.”
PS Della, thanks for the Kiptyn article…never even thought about it that way, but it totally makes sense!!! Seriously, why else would they show his charity as a “blooper” or “out-take?” I understand they had to cut a lot of material to fill that episode with the Wes/Jake drama, but if we’ve lived without seeing it until now, I guess we could have continued to do so.
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:21 AM
It’s great fun and escapism to be entertained and imagine ourselves as relationship experts. It’s not fun when you realize too late in the season that your intelligence has been insulted to the lowest common denominator — money, tomfoolery, B actors and TV ratings. Even if the actors meet their agenda, the price they’ve paid seems a bit akin to prostitution. Still, if Jillian actually DOES profess her love for someone and gets ENGAGED next week, I might watch this show again.
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:31 AM
Steve, I was disappointed that you promised a Reality Roundup last Friday and didn’t come through. Please start doing them again!
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:35 AM
i enjoy all of these comments more than the RS column!
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:37 AM
I’m sure they screened the audience…what is your opinion of Wes? – booo, yes, you’re in the audience, yah, nope, sorry you can’t attend. Give me a break! I think there is a bromance going on here – with Steve and Wes! RS you have stars in your eyes for Wes, he’s playing you “They say love don’t come eeaasssyyy….” How many records is he selling through your website?
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:43 AM
I’m wondering when the Bachelor/ette series actually jumped the shark — was it at the end of Jason Mesnick’s season, or during the current Jillian season? This season has been very boring, in many ways. The blogs (including this one by RS) are the main thing keeping it interesting for me.
I just realized this (probably a delayed realization) — I have no intention of watching any further series! But will watch next week to finish things off.
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:01 AM
I have always liked the RS blog – loved his take on the show and he got everyone thinking about “what happens next week”. Agreed, this season seemed more “scripted” than others but that makes good television, right? However, now RS seems like a bitter schoolgirl trying to get some more attention. It’s okay if you want to promote Wes and your ongoing “bromance”, hell, you can even do jack shots off his “show shirt” (just watch the rhinestones), we just want the old Steve back talking about the show, not your undying love for whatshisname…..
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:00 AM
I agree with everyone else here — very tired of hearing about Wes. Sure, we know he got a bad edit, either just let it go or sue ABC, and be done with it.
A previous poster commented about Jason being angry and flaring his nostrils when Chris asked them how it’s been since the whole fiasco. I don’t know why, but Jason almost looked scared to me (like a deer in headlights almost). Not sure what he looked like, but he definitely didn’t look like his usual self — maybe he was in fact angry. I’ll have to re-watch that part, and also see if RS is who Jason was even referring to in that conversation. Jason said “…people have taken their shots..”. My first thought was he meant the media/paparazzi in general, RS didn’t even cross my mind as being the one he was referring to,….and it still isn’t. I think it’s funny that RS automatically assumed that Jason meant him.
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:07 AM
I just want to add my two cents and agree with so many of the bloggers who feel RS has turned the corner from being entertaining to just being malicious; he’s just not much fun to read anymore. I doubt if he will return to his old form so I’ll probably stop coming regularly to read his “insights.” It’s been swell, Steve.
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:15 AM
@della
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My biggest problem with Kiptyn as the next bachelor is his mother. Any woman he picks will have a life of misery ahead with that beyotch constantly putting her two-cents in. She best expressed it herself: “How do you feel about an overbearing mother-in-law?”
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:18 AM
Why anyone would be sick of Steve defending Wes is beyond me. you people cannot be serious. Of course he’s going to defend Wes. Why wouldnt he? Wes was treated horribly by ABC and now that we all know the truth, of course Steve is going to come to his defense. It’s called DOING THE RIGHT THING.
Get off this board you haters. You make me sick.
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:19 AM
Those of you who are “bored” of the Wes talk? Really? It was THE biggest story of this entire season.
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:24 AM
And by the way, I don’t have a problem with Steve’s vehement defense of Wes’ point of view. It’s one thing for the show to use editing to influence which candidate the audience pulls for, as the final one left standing. It’s quite a different matter to get people so [wrongly] riled against a person that they in effect ruin his whole career. If even half of what Wes says is true, then it’s reprehensible that he has no legal recourse (for libel or slander), due to the wording of the contract he had to sign. I’m with you on that, Steve. That said, I do agree that it appears you may be turning into bit of a Wes groupie. If you do attend his concerts regularly, I would consider downplaying that fact in your blog from here on.
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:44 AM
@Wes Supporter2
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Well said, Wes Supporter 2. I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said. And I loved the Rush Limbaugh analogy!
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:47 AM
so you guys arent happy if Steve should become friends with Wes. How stupid. Truly people – get a freaking life already. This is HIS website and he can do what he wants with it. He can befriend whoever he chooses.
If it bothers you so much, hit the road!
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:11 AM
I think ya’ll are forgetting that Steve does this for fun and it’s HIS blog. If ya are hatin’ leave! No one is forcing you to come to his website and read his blogs…does anyone know what a blog is? Hello, it’s someone’s opinions and where they come to release their own creative juices. He can do whatever the heck he wants so leave him alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:13 AM
@lglover614
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You must not have listened to Wes’ interview. He did admit he made that particular comment — he was cutting up with the camera crew. And his crack about the other guys not “getting a nibble” from the women in Texas — that was also not edited. The guys picked at each other (in fun) all the time, so that wasn’t a big deal. The real problem with the editing was the way they would string separate comments together, or the camera man would ask a specific question and then they would play the answer out of context to make it sound like he was referring to something else.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:16 AM
Okay – totally agree with the point – it’s his website, he can do what he wants. It’s just not the same tone with the blogs anymore. I jumped on the hate Wes bandwagon just like a lot of people, and after hearing his own words feel he got the “editing shaft” for sure. He signed up, he could have looked into all the negative publicity people have gotten on this show, someone always looks the fool in the end. The “big” guys will always be making the “big” bucks so they will continue to “make” the shown what they want…and no matter, I am sure we will all be watching and getting sucked in as always.
July 22nd, 2009 at 11:54 AM
Basically, Wes bent over and they stuck it to him. I feel horrible for what ABC did to him. He did NOT deserve it.
July 22nd, 2009 at 12:12 PM
GOOD GRIEF!! Im eating lunch and reading these posts and all I can say is: RS – we have a lot of annoyed & angry posters here. “BUTT BUDDY”, “BROMANCE”, “NEW BEST FRIEND”. Very mean. Here’s what I suggest. I suggest that all of you who don’t like the “new” RS blog – should just go to ew.com and read Chris Harrison’s blog where everything is peaches and cream and stop coming here. I don’t care who Steve is friends with. I live in New York. I have my own friends. If I had the opportunity to befriend some of the people from this show (if I were 20 years younger!!) would I? yeah I would. Steve is a young, single guy having a blast living his life. The only thing I miss is news about Maddie. What does she think of all this?
Anyway – RS – continue what youre doing. It’s very informative and I love it! I’m a long time reader and I will never stop – as long as you write – I will read. In fact, I would skim over these posts and hit delete if I were you. Pay them no mind RS. Now…carry on.
x0×0x
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:09 PM
Hey Steve, it’s a good thing your’re almost sold out of your Realty Steve merchandise gear..that gives you room on your site to sell Wes’ CD’s…………you sold out Steve, how could you become so manipulated by this bum.
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:22 PM
If RS wants to write about Wes that’s great, but do it on a Blog that isn’t labeled “Bachelorette – the Men Tell All Recap”. Have a separate thread that is all about Wes 24/7. I came here to read witty things about the MTA show, not to read more crap about Wes.
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:48 PM
Steve, it’s clear you believe what Wes says, and not what the folks from the show say. That’s fine — you’re entitled to your opinion, and I fully acknowledge that editing might well have skewed, to some degree, Wes and the viewer’s sense of him. However, all of the other guys, and Jillian, have an unedited knowledge of his behavior and words in their presence. She clearly concluded he wasn’t on the up and up, and the other guys haven’t been shy about criticizing one another, so it seems to me clear that they too didn’t think much of him or whatever he said to them, whether in front of or behind the camera. His body language with her was pretty damning as well, and unless this is a program on a par with Pixar movies (Ha!), it’s pretty difficult to edit that against him.
Steve, I guess what I really want to say is that you would do well to cease repeating over and over and over how Wes was screwed by the producers and the editors. It’s gotten old, and many, many viewers of the show, even those with an unimpressed attitude toward the producers, recognize that Wes is a small talent with oversized dreams and a seriously overinflated ego.
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:51 PM
Could the MTA episode (or, actually, the series in general) be any more contrived? I really felt as though my intelligence had been insulted. Thank you, Reality Steve, for being the antidote to the damage done by watching this hot mess of a show. As I said before, I am only wasting another two hours of my life by watching the finale, and then I’m done, so keep doing what you do best!
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:54 PM
Are you forgetting that the MTA show was pretty much ALL WES?
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:55 PM
Wow! What is with all the hate on Steve? I am a first time poster and looong time reader of this blog and had to step in and let him know there are people who appreciate you. I love the new inside peek at the show. Are you people so simple minded all you want to see if funny comments about the show? How about a little curiosity about what’s behind the scenes? I think any real Bachelor fan would appreciate the insight. I for one find it very interesting. Thanks Steve!
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:08 PM
Well said IHeartRS!! Well said…..
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:34 PM
First of all I wanna say that I have been a long time loyal reader of this blog (like we go back to when you used to email that you had a new blog up… before blogging was even popular — way back Steve!!). I always loved the fact that reading it could get me in trouble at work because it was always freakin’ hilarious. Steve is a pretty funny guy and I’ve been a fan and I’m still a fan and will probably continue to read it as long as I continue to watch the bachelor.
However, I do agree that you Steve, have been on an agenda lately… since Jason’s season and I appreciated the fact that you exposed the Jason conundrum and all that. What bothers me though is that while yes, I don’t mind that you’re exposing ABC for what it is… it’s your blog and you can say what you want, and frankly my opinion doesn’t matter much, but I do wish that you wouldn’t keep harping and going on and on about it. I get it, ABC sucks and the horse has been beaten to beyond death now, I’m ready to move on!!!!
Now that said, and Steve I still love ya and all that, but what’s with all this love on Wes??????? First Jeremy and now Wes too? And maybe he’s a cool guy or whatever, but dude I’d have to agree with some folks that this bromance you got going seems to go beyond Tanner and Mike’s love for each other!!! LOL… I’m just saying.
I also agree with the conspiracy theory from way up there that maybe, just maybe you could be a pawn in ABC’s game to get viewers to tune in to an otherwise extremely boring show (or even getting paid for the publicity you’re giving them). If you hadn’t drop the tidbit of Jason & Molly they wouldn’t have gotten so many viewers for the last couple of episodes, because people were now then watching to see if it all was true…. and now with this snoozefest of a season I’m pretty certain their viewership has increased since you’re talking about it and “exposing” them for who they are, what with CH and JM have a “hard on” for you and all.
So here’s my theory… ABC knows that their show is sucking the fun out of a romantic reality tv show because their track record has been so poor… and that maybe the viewers will wise up and know that it’s all a joke other than Trista and Ryan – so they drum up this plan, to put it all out there- let the cat out of the bag… feel good is nice but when it amounts to nothing people won’t keep coming back. Since they can’t deliver the happy ending we want, let’s put out there that it’s all a joke and people will watch because a scandalous story is soooo much more interesting anyway…. otherwise Soap Operas wouldn’t run for so long… so they’re not fooling anyone into thinking this is a show about romance but now are making it more about the “DRAMA” that goes on on reality TV… Why? because it gives us something to talk about.
Like Billy Flynn says “They’d love you a lot more if you were hanged. You know why? Because it would sell more papers… That’s Chicago”
Or Showbiz really!!!
There I’ve said my piece!
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:50 PM
just4dafunofit
Thanks for saying that. I feel exactly the same way. This site feels like a big lovefest for Wes now and all the other pseudo wannabe celebrity ex-contestants (blink blink Meyawna anyone?). I miss the good old days of Steve’s snarky comments.
For those who think Steve is doing this big public service announcement (serious reporting) to let us in the know. We get it, already. That’s why we loved this site from the beginning because RS never took this show seriously and neither did we. That’s why it’s funny. It’s not funny anymore, it’s an agenda. No different from ABC’s agenda.
July 22nd, 2009 at 2:54 PM
A couple of things to say to everyone who is defending Steve, saying that a lot of people are hatin on him.
1- Nobody said they didnt like his blog. We are simply tired of hearing about Wes. We already listened to an 1.5 long interview and that was enough to understand the extent of what ABC did to him.
2-This is a country where there is a beautiful thing called free speech. The same way Steve is entitled to his opinion, we are two. And last time I checked, this section was called “comments” not “only positive comments”.
So get over it.
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:09 PM
Lay off Steve already. Can’t a guy make friends with someone without being accused of being in love? These comments about Bromance are not clever, but childish and mean. Come on guys…
RS, I still enjoy your weekly post and wish there were more out there. We’re just having fun people.
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:37 PM
Nothing wrong with Bromance… but if Steve can make fun of Mike and Tanner P… why can’t we point out that he has bromance going on with Wes. I just think it’s funny and ironic since he was the first one to talk about Wes and his song:-). and I didn’t say he was gay or in love…just loving on Wes as he is now Wes’ #1 fan!!
And like Caro1975 said this isn’t about “only positive comments”… Steve can delete ‘em if he don’t like ‘em…
But it was funnier when Steve used to make fun of Wes— here’s what Steve used to say about Wes– and see now how things have changed since they’re buddies!
excerpt from The Bachelorette 5 Recap – 6/1/09
“-Of course, when Jillian gets home, it’s time for Wes to finally release his long awaited debut single for her. Of course, this single only has one note and, from what we’ve seen, about two lines to it. It took him that long to write this song, yet, all we hear are the same two lines over and over again. What a horrible song writer. At least he can have a job next year writing the “American Idol” finale song. And if this song is so important to him and needs to be played for Jillian, why does he keep starting over? Finish the damn song.
Wes: Someone should take that guitar and smash it over his head like the Honky Tonk Man used to do back in the day.”
from The Bachelorette 5 Recap – 5/18/09
“Wes is from Austin, Texas and likes to play the guitar. He’s a country music singer. Of course, I’m sure they’ll keep that on the down low all season. There’s no reason to believe that Wes Hayden, the aspiring country music star who has his own website at http://www.weshayden.com, would possibly be coming on the show to further music career. That would just be totally disingenuous and not becoming of this show. Uh huh.”
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:43 PM
“Are you forgetting that the MTA show was pretty much ALL WES?”———– That’s true, there were parts about Wes, just like there were parts about Jake and Dave and others who were also poorly edited. But Steve is writing about going to a bar and listening to Wes sing and getting drunk, etc. That has nothing to do with the MTA show at all, that’s what I was saying. So just have a separate thread where it’s like a diary or something and talks about Wes exploits.
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:56 PM
Geez, Steve — why don’t YOU date Wes?! I logged on to Reality Steve to see if you had any insight into next week’s finale. All you talk about is poor Wes. He’s done! History! You say that you think Jillian might be with Ed, but there is that whole Ed-has-a-girlfriend issue you don’t explore. Could have saved yourself a lot of typing by admitting upfront you don’t know anything.
July 22nd, 2009 at 3:57 PM
Either way, ABC should have bent over backwards to let him show up and say his piece. If he declined the invitation, show proof, because otherwise any discussion of him seems like they’re beating up on someone who can’t defend himself.If he was allowed to attend and repeated his accusations, let the other men, or Chris Harrison, challenge him and say he’s full of shit. Better, show the full, unedited video of his limo exit interview to prove that it wasn’t edited out of context. But keeping him away just makes him seem like the producers and network have something to hide.”
I am glad to be aquainted with Reality Steve. I’ve heard so much about you.
I find it comical ppl defend Wes. To me, his facial expressions all through the show called him out to be a “LIAR”. The biggest question I have is WHY ON EARTH BRING UP A GIRL BACK HOME? I honestly believe Wes has no class & we witnessed it on the show. If Wes was an “angel” he would have bowed out, girlfriend or not, early in the show, but he didn’t. He couldn’t get enough of the tv time & supposed publicity for his CD. I’m happy ABC didn’t bring him on the MTA. That was a good decision because he would have stolen the entire show. He would have talked his talk. The audience would have ate him up & we would NOT have heard from the other men. Wes has said his peace or piece all over Austin in magazines. That’s good enough. Karma is a b!otch & it bit him where it hurts.
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:31 PM
Questions for Wes…
If everything was taken out of contex, please explain the “sex” comment at the rose ceremony.
Also, please explain how ALL the comments in the limo were taken out of context such as the “ball and chain” are off, everyone “knowing your name” etc instead of just the “making it to the final four” comment.
Comment for Wes…
Whether or not you have a girlfriend I don’t believe was ever the actual underlying issue, it is more about whether you are a true gentleman who has respect for women or not. By your actions and words shown on the the show as well as in interviews you have given after the show, it seems to be that you have forgotten some of those much needed manners. Remember that when you talk about “going back home to have sex,” you are speaking about an action with a woman that you should respect. Would you like anyone talking so lightly about having sex with your mom or sisters? Something to think about when discussing women….that is someone’s sister and daughter you are referring to…
You chose to be on national television for a dating show and somehow seem truly surprised that people are judging you. We all will continued to be judged in all of our aspects of life; however how you respond to it will show what type of a true gentleman you are.
May God bless you and show His never ending grace, mercy and love for you!
July 22nd, 2009 at 4:41 PM
Hi RS, long time reader, first time poster here. I’m kinda torn -I agree with most of the posters that the tone of this blog has changed dramatically and that I, too, miss the old snarky posts….But, on the other hand, I do also really do appreciate the inside info on the shows. One thing is for sure, there is just way too much Wes on this blog (He got a bad edit, we get it, move on…pleeeease).
One suggestion: These blog posts are WAAAAAAAAAYYY too long, please consider posting 2-3 shorter ones instead if you have multiple topics, that way those of us who don’t want to read about Wes can skip over that post and go to the ones that we want to read. It may ease a lot of tension on the comments board.
July 22nd, 2009 at 5:02 PM
I am so sick and tired of Wes..maybe he should hire you as his PR guy..you seem to be doing an awesome job promoting him. Whether he was edited or not, who fricken cares anymore? This guy got more publicity than anyone else on that show!!
We get it, this show is fake..you are not telling us anything new that we don’t already know..in fact, you have been telling us this ever since the whole Jason and Molly thing happened..jeez we get it!!
Can we stop with the bashing ABC and kissing Wes’s ass 24/7 and return to those hilarious recaps we all love??
July 22nd, 2009 at 5:43 PM
People, please it is a free county. It is Steves’ blog. If you have a differing opinion start another blog and we can read what you have to offer. If you don’t like what is being said then stop reading it!! It is that simple.
I read and have since RS started because I enjoy the read. I eat dinner every night and some nights dinner is better than others but aI still eat. So either come along for the ride and accept that you will like some more than others or don’t bother to read at all.
July 22nd, 2009 at 6:39 PM
RS blogs on the Bachelorette are way too long, boring, nothing new, one sided and a waste of time. If you want read a good Bachelorette Blog, go to Eonline.com & read Trista Sutters (previous Bachelorette) Blog. She is much more interesting & not so one sided.
July 22nd, 2009 at 7:00 PM
@prettydelphinium
I couldn’t agree more about the Tom Cruise comparison. The fake smile…the perpetual happiness and perfection…blech.
I DO NOT agree about Wes though. His comments in the Limo were very telling and he isn’t a nice guy in my opinion. I thought that he sounded like a bad Garth Brooks wannabe.
I also agree completely about Jill not being with any of the guys. I would put her in the exact same category as I do most of the male Bachelors as far as her attitude and behavior goe. She’s smart and cute but certainly not without the ability to manipulate. She didn’t appeal to me as a person and in hindsight, I think she was a poor choice for Bachelorette. I think that she used the show for her own purposes to get a free ride and to travel on their dime. Something wasn’t right about that girl.
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:41 PM
people, read lincee’s blog (ihategreenbeans). It’s funny, and the comments are just as entertaining….. Jillian on the “Home Depot Pedestal”, We want dorks flying our airplanes, etc. Good stuff.
July 22nd, 2009 at 8:52 PM
A little something I wrote in honor of the finale
Twas the week before the finale, and all over the boards,
Are comments and theories all being explored.
The links have been posted, the screencaps are viewed,
To see how much ABC has edited and skewed.
Some fans hold a soft spot for Ed in their hearts,
While others just see him as a drunkard who farts.
Still others like Kypton and say he proposes,
It’s his edit afterall that’s left him smelling like roses.
And to make things more interesting, to keep us glued to the screen,
Is the return of tongue-tied Reid, what all could this mean?
Oh! It’s just a ploy by producers to give us a “twist”,
When in “reality” all that does is just make us all pissed.
But no matter whom Jill chooses to be her prince charming,
No one on this board should find it alarming.
It’s a best friend, companion, and soul mate she seeks,
Let’s just pray this relationship lasts for more than 8 weeks.
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:06 PM
lol jenben good job….too much time on your hands!
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:19 PM
jenben, great poem! Great way to lighten up this comment thread.
July 22nd, 2009 at 9:27 PM
Another interview with Wes.. Who the crap wants to hear more from him? Certainly not I.. I have had enough of WES!! Since your column has lost its humor Reality Steve, I have to rely on the comment section for comedy.
Also I am turning off direct Twitter messages from you Reality Steve, I could care less if Wes gave you a shout out at one of his ‘rinky dink little concerts’. Get over him and get back to the funny Reality Steve we once loved. I remember how hard I laughed when you referred to Wes as Bed Head. But I guess with you crashing with the band, you have seen more of Wes than we the readers care to know about.
July 22nd, 2009 at 10:08 PM
Can’t we all just get along?
I don’t love Wes and I don’t hate Wes. Why? BECAUSE I DON’T KNOW WES and neither do any of you!!
He may have been portrayed as a weiner on the show, but it is a SHOW. Do we really know if he is truly a weiner-head? If you are not dating him, then why do you care how he acted?
Why do you care who Steve chooses to be friends with? The last time I checked, we were still living in a free country. Steve is not heing a hater, which is a lesson all of you with negative comments could learn from!
Perhaps some of Steve’s humor will rub off on Wes (please, no steve and Wes “rub” comments) and Wes will become a better man because of the friendship…if he even needs to be!
Chill, will ya?
July 23rd, 2009 at 2:32 AM
i agree this MTA was very unexpected and different from previous MTA’s. both the guys and chris harrison were speaking in ways they never do on the MTA. i guess abc is changing stuff up after so many seasons…what with the allusion to the sexual malfunction on the show and the behavior on the MTA, i’m guessing future seasons might get more grittier and not so “proper,” which i think i’d actually prefer, since the way they portrayed people in the past wasn’t too realistic. ps- michael was so adorable on the MTA…as he always is
two things i wanna get out:
1) please abc people, do NOT make jake the next bachelor. he is a weird and awkward guy, and i would not at all be interested in watching.
2) i think one or more of the comments said jillian might not be turning down both guys (even though some speculated she would) since abc already played this “twist” out on brad’s season, and i hope they’re right! i’m keeping my fingers crossed that if she doesn’t get engaged to reid, she at least turns down his proposal and instead says they should date and see where that goes. or maybe even suggest that to both ed and reid…heck i’ll take it, as long as reid is still in the picture!! (as for kiptyn, i think steve’s hinted more than enough that he’s not going to be the last man standing, but will become the next bachelor)
July 23rd, 2009 at 3:54 AM
This is a Blog that was the best on the web- funny, irreverant, witty, and entertaining. Now it has evolved into an angry, repetitive, predictable, diatribe against TB management.
Many years agao there was a comedian named Lenny Bruce. He was a comic genius until he was censored from using profanity. After that his “comedy” routines became rants against the censors…and he stopped being funny. Then when his fans told Lenny he wasn’t funny any more he ranted against them!
Eventually Lenny Bruce died an angry lonely man.
Steve, please listen to your fans. We all get that the show is scripted and that they edit people to create characters. You have made your point about that.
Now PLEASE go back to being funny.
July 23rd, 2009 at 7:21 AM
Check out this link to read the interview City TV in Toronto did with Jillian yesterday..it’s quite good.
http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_36094.aspx
July 23rd, 2009 at 7:54 AM
I think love was found this season…a true bromance – RS and Wes.
Like the poster above me, please pay attention to your fans. Lately you seem to be showing as much disgust for us as you do ABC, Chris Harrison, Jillian and any of the bachelors whose names don’t start with Wes…
I don’t know know what your future writing goals are, but you used to be entertaining enough to write for paid sites like TVGuide, EW, etc. Now you are like the manager who is sleeping with one of his employees and can no longer make impartial judgments regarding that person. Your work is suffering and you just won’t see it. I guess man-love is also blind.
Even if Wes is the nicest guy in the world (more perfect than Jake according to you!) and he was edited to make him the villain (because they didn’t have Dave who they could have forced Jill to keep around), we are sick of you telling us about him and how stupid we are for not wanting to hear about it for months.
As far as Wes’s catchy “They say love, it don’t come eeeeeeasssy” song. Every time I hear that phrase I think of Stevie Nick’s far superior “Love is Like a River”.
July 23rd, 2009 at 8:47 AM
Totally agree!!! Wes is Wes, I don’t know why you are making him out to be something else. Get over it already!!
Looks like you found a new friend through all of this!
July 23rd, 2009 at 8:56 AM
Has this blog become a lets bash reality steve and his opinion. It is his blog and if you don’t like what he writes, you do not have to read it. Personally, ABC does their best to try to bash him whenever and in my opinion I am sure the the worst post about Steve are people ABC have hired or they are friends of Molly and Jason. After the Melissa incident, Jason will never be thought of again as the man who everyone American loved. I think he and Molly have as much of a chance at happiness as a concrete wall.
This blog is funny and I have enjoyed the latest news. I personally think this season of the bachlorette has been so BORING. Instead of asking one of the bounced girls from the bachelor season, get some new blood and find someone from the outside like you used too.
Thanks for the information Steve, I enjoy everything you write and I still laugh. Also, if Wes were to come to my area, I would go see him play.
July 23rd, 2009 at 10:28 AM
The thing is…at least with me, I love half the blog and want to love most of it like I used it. Some readers probably have left, but if some of us don’t stay and express our displeasure with the turn the blog has taken RS doesn’t have the opportunity to make changes if he sees the need. Right now it appears he doesn’t and that is clearly his right. If the season wasn’t almost over the negative comments would probably decrease as more people leave.
July 23rd, 2009 at 12:37 PM
I’m on the enough about the W word bandwagon—I’m bored. However I guess the MTA was pretty much the Jake, Dave, Tanner show so there wasn’t much material for this weeks entry. However I must say, I now visit this site just to read the comments section cause they are very entertaining.
Here’s the bottom line folks…most people who sign up for the show are doing it due to some sort of hidden agenda..maybe 2 or 3 out of the batch went on a casting on a “dare” or “just for fun” and ended up making it. I know during that Prince season, my roommate and I got handed a flyer at some street fest in Chicago for the casting call and joked about going just for fun and to get a free trip to Italy. We never actually went through with it as we didn’t feel like waiting in a line with about 5000 other women and didn’t care that much. So with that said, you have to have a lot of patience and desire to be on a television show to got through with the process.
Also, if you ask a random person on the street if they think they are a “good catch” or altogether kick butt human being–most people are going to answer yes. No one, especially someone who agrees to go on a TV show, thinks of themselves in a negative light. And no one is perfect–everyone has negative attributes. So when those negative attributes are magnified and broadcast on national television–of course they are going to cry foul. But it is a gamble you signed up for. Bottom line: guys with personalities like Wes and Dave and heck even Jake as I am not a fan of his, are single for a reason. I’m not saying they are bad people, I am just saying their overall attributes made it easier for ABC to portray them in a negative light then as the “dream guy” as that is ultimately what they are looking for. And I think someone else said it best-whether or not you believe “w” had a gf or not–he has never had much to say about Jillian–he hardly mentions her unless he is defending an edit. That’s what seems a little odd in my eyes….Regardless, he is not my type in any way shape or form so maybe that’s part of my dislike…
Anywho–that is my two cents–keep up with the comments folks—I love reading them all! Though I know RS and W are now BFFs I’m keeping my fingers crossed this new interview is the end of this man crush/obsession cause if wasn’t for this comments section—I’d be done with this site.
July 23rd, 2009 at 4:47 PM
@ashley1126 -
I think Steve is strong enough to handle negative comments on his site. I also don’t think anyone appointed you to stand up and defend him. What makes a site like this interesting is discussion and reading different opinions. If everyone just said that they love Steve and everything that he writes, just cheerleading all the way, then what would be the point about having this place? The whole idea is to have an exchange of ideas and thoughts.
My advice to you is if it bothers you so much to read ANY criticism of Steve, then don’t read these comments.
July 24th, 2009 at 1:36 PM
Megd55 and MindyM – damn straight. I haven’t bothered to listen to the latest Wes interview because I suspect I know exactly how it goes down.
And it’s not like some of us are anti-Wes, it’s just that we don’t care anymore. He got a bad edit, ABC milked it. We get it. As he is rehabilitating his image he’s getting far more pub than he would have had he turned Bachelorette down. Bad pub is good pub. He might have discussed this and I might have glossed over this but has ABC considered suing Wes for talking out like this?
A post at Astrochick broke down the contract in a post that makes it awfully difficult to have sympathy for ANY of these reality star wannabes – http://www.astrochicks.com/2009/07/11/the-bachelorette-updated-exclusive-what-the-abc-contract-says-that-guysgirls-have-to-sign/
July 25th, 2009 at 1:50 PM
From that link about the contract:
* Paid $10k for the “exclusive” to keep quiet.
* Option to appear on other shows, they are guaranteed a fee
* If they make it to the final four, they are paid extra.
* They are explicitly told they are filmed 24/7, they could be embarrassed, edited in a negative light, etc.
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Okay, so he got $10,000 for keeping quiet, he made it to the final four and got more money. And he was told he could be edited to be shown in a negative light. He never has said in his interviews how much money he made being on the show?