The Bachelorette 5 - Jillian

The Emails and My Final Thoughts…For Now

So plenty of you have been asking where I’ve been and why I haven’t weighed in since the “US Weekly” and other tabloid stories broke about Ed’s ex’s, Lindsey Johnson and Bethany Steffen. Last time I posted was two days before that article came out and I gave you all my thoughts. In a nutshell, I said that Ed had a lot of explaining to do, and if he chose not to explain himself and ignore all the accusations (which he has), then plenty of people will be questioning their relationship. And they are. Since all this stuff broke, Ed and Jillian have stood firm by saying their relationship is strong, Jillian believes Ed’s side (whatever that is), and that they are moving past all these allegations. Fine. I’ve got no problem with that whatsoever. But it doesn’t mean I won’t talk about it some more.

Both Ed and Jillian have categorized Lindsey and Bethany’s allegations as “ridiculous”, “nonsense”, and “totally untrue”. Which is fine. But what part is untrue? That these women even exist? Because we know that’s not the case. That the emails they provided were completely made up? Never specified that. Based on everything I’ve read from both Ed and Jillian, they’re just standing by the “none of its true, Ed’s told me about both women, I trust him, and that’s all you need to know”. Ok, fine. But I’m guessing if Ed told her about both women, he told her his side of things. Do I honestly think that Ed sat Jillian down and said, “Ok, look. Three weeks before I went on the show, I told Bethany in an email I didn’t want to do the show and wasn’t attracted to you. Then during the first few weeks of filming, I was in contact with Lindsey telling her I wanted to come home, I missed her, and that I really wasn’t into you.” Probably not. As I said in my last post, they can address the allegations by the “it’s not true” card, but when both women were being very specific about emails, texts, and conversations, that’s really not good enough.

I have reached out to both Ed and Jillian personally, and they both have gotten back to me. Very nice couple, seem to be very happy with each other, and are laughing at everything that’s gone on since the show ended. Weird, but whatever. It’s what they’re choosing to do. Like I said, it’s their prerogative to handle it this way and let it eventually die down. Both of them politely declined my request to speak with them, which I can respect. But even with the decline, they had only one request, and that was that they would like RealitySteve.com merchandise. I sh** you not. Ed wants a hat, and Jillian wants a shirt. I’m still scratching my head as to why, but hey, they must be GIANT fans of mine, so I’ve obliged. Now, I only have one request to the two of them. Be sure to wear it during any publicity photos. That’d be wonderful. Anyway, that’s where I stood with both Ed and Jillian up until this past weekend. I figured everything that had played out in the media was all you needed to know, Lindsey and Bethany feel jilted by what happened, but they’ve both since moved on, so there wasn’t much else to talk about.

Lo and behold, guess what shows up in my email inbox over the weekend? That’s right, the full email exchange between Ed and Lindsey right before he left during the middle of the show. Yes, we saw some of the quotes in “US Weekly”, which I’m guessing a lot of you doubted the validity of. Well, you probably shouldn’t anymore. Sure, I’m guessing a lot of JED’s fans will say these are made up, but honestly, when you read this exchange, do you really think two people went through all the trouble to make this all up? C’mon people. I know you like living in fantasy land when it comes to this show, but please, the emails are pretty self explanatory. Lindsey contacts him while he’s still on the show (supposedly something that isn’t allowed to happen), Ed contacts her back (yet another thing that’s supposedly not allowed to happen), and they are planning to do things when he gets back home. Remember, this exchange happens right before he leaves when he tells us that work wants him to come back, and he feels obligated. And if people question how I got the emails, just remember last season, I had the Jason/Melissa email exchange that happened after they taped the ATFR 1, which Melissa confirmed on “Ellen” was legit.

So why would I not run Jason & Melissa’s email exchange but am running Ed’s emails to Lindsey and Bethany? Well, one main reason. Those girls weren’t on the show. A lot of you dislike them and think they’re making everything up anyway, so why not? This, I would assume, is the basis for why both of them were so shocked at everything that went down. And also when I received this last one over the weekend, I didn’t feel conflicted whatsoever to run them because of the stance that Ed and Jillian have taken since Day 1 of this fiasco. They don’t seem to care about any allegations brought against him, Jillian is 100% behind him, and that’s that. I’ve reached out to both Lindsey and Bethany, and have not heard back from either one. I can’t imagine they’d be too upset since this is only giving evidence to support their story. Before now, all you saw were quotes in a tabloid magazine. Now you’re seeing the exact email exchange. Make your decision from there.

However, being the very gracious human being that I am, and since both Jillian and Ed are soon to be RealitySteve.com merchandise owners, I figured I would give Ed a head’s up and tell him I was going to run the emails. Any comments that he would like to make regarding them, I would gladly put in today’s column. Here was his response:

From: “Edward R. Swiderski III”
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:05:20 -0500
To: steve@realitysteve.com
Subject: RE: Where are our T’s???

Go with it Steve-o! After all, god put you here to report on reality TV and that’s certainly something to be proud of. It’s your duty!

p.s. where are our T’s?

ed

Sounded good enough for me. Don’t ask me why he wants a bunch of people to see this email exchange that doesn’t necessarily cast him in the greatest of light, but hey, “Go with it Steve-O!” You got it, Eddie. It’s my duty, right? Whether or not the guy was being sarcastic, the bottom line is I gave him an opportunity to tell me not to run them, and not only did he not choose to go that route, he seems rather excited about the whole thing. Still kinda scratching my head as to why, especially considering this is something he wrote DURING the course of filming the show within the first couple weeks, which fits exactly the time line he told Lindsey and Bethany about before he left to do the show. In case you didn’t read the stories they told, Ed allegedly told both of them he was gonna go do the show, but only for a couple weeks because that’s all his work would allow, and that it would be “for us”. And that’s exactly what he did. So hey, I guess he didn’t lie about that. Filming started March 24th or 25th, and these emails were sent to Lindsey between April 10th and April 12th. Now first up is the email exchange with Bethany, three weeks before leaving to do the show. She sends him an email laying out her feeling about the whole thing and then he gives his response. Tell me if you think this girl is just some random girl he’s dating on the side or if it’s a little more serious than that. Probably want to read from the bottom up.

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From: Ed Swiderski
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:01 PM
To: Bethany Steffen
Subject: RE:

Babe: this is great email. And I appreciate it.

You worry too much! Let’s talk about it in person ok?

You know I never took this thing seriously. In addition, I’ve let the Director know that I would be doing the show for the wrong reasons as I am not, in any way, attracted to the chick.

It’s still about a 25% chance of me going, though it’s seriously the last thing I’m thinking about right now!

From: Bethany Steffen
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:31 AM
To: Ed Swiderski
Subject:

Ok..I’m no good at talking about my feelings, so here goes nothing…

Here’s how I see it:

a) This is obviously an amazing opportunity that will undoubtedly be once in a lifetime. What a great story you’ll have for the rest of your life and who knows what doors it may lead to.

b) But with every decision in life there are multiple ways it could go. A few I’ve thought of as my mind has been racing over the last couple days include: First way: you go on show, hang out for a few weeks, get your face on TV, enjoy a little limelight. Maybe you get noticed out and about in Chicago afterwards, get an article in the paper, but undoubtedly forgotten about by the end of summer. Second way: you go on show, get wrapped up in the excitement, “fall” for the girl, hit it off with her, lose at the final rose ceremony, and BAM…you’re the next bachelor. That would just be my luck.

c) I would obviously think that the first way is the most likely way it will go. My buddy Wagner in AZ had a friend Jenni, who was on the last Bachelor, and she was actually was in the final 2. That is pretty much the way it went for her afterwards. She had fun with it, got invited to bars and things like that but she wasn’t the same person. If you go on that show you will get attention. Men like attention and I’m sure girls will be all over you. Your ego may grow and it all comes down to how you will handle the attention. And of course what happens with us afterwards depends on how I handle that attention

By the way you worded your text the other night it sounds as if you mean, “hey, I’m willing to not go on this stupid show b/c I like you a lot” (Side note: why wouldn’t you? I’m great.) I guess all I can do is be honest about my feelings towards you and obviously, I like you; a lot. I respect you, admire your worth ethic and your success and passion really turn me on. I love hanging out with you, we really get along and I know it’s early, but I think we could really be a power couple someday; taking over the Chicago technology scene J

Ed, this is a great opportunity, potentially life altering, and I’m not going to be the one to make the decision for you. I can’t really say that I’m going to support you either way you decide because I’ve watched the show and you could end up doing some things or saying some things on national TV that would not be kosher for someone who has someone back home that is waiting. If you go, in my mind, it says to me…”I’m doing this for me, I’m not going to worry how it effects you, I’ll worry about that later”. So, Ed, do what you think is best for you, but understand I will do what’s best for me at the same time. If you go, I’m very skeptical and doubtful that things will ever be the same with us.

In conclusion, you know if it were me and I was unattached, I’d go in a heartbeat; but right now, a little piece of my heart is attached to you.

That’s how I feel,

Bethany

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Now, here is the exchange between he and Lindsey while he was on the show (I’ve purposely “x”‘d out Lindsey’s email address in these so certain crazies out there don’t go all “Laurel” on her). Once again, tell me if you honestly think Ed is making all this up, or this was staged, or its completely fabricated.

——Original Message——
From: Ed Swiderski
To: ljohnson@xxxxxxx.com
Subject: RE: Muddy Buddy Race – August 2, 2009
Sent: Apr 12, 2009 8:38 PM

Message

And honestly I have not had fun since I’ve been here, it really has nothing to do with her anyway. In fact we only have seen her a few times.

I think about you all the time and can’t wait to see you.

——Original Message——
From: Ed Swiderski
To: ljohnson@xxxxxxx.com
Subject: RE: Muddy Buddy Race – August 2, 2009
Sent: Apr 12, 2009 8:35 PM

Message

You’re right and I miss you dearly. I love you.

I’m letting them know tonight. Hopefully they’ll get me home tomorrow.

From: ljohnson@xxxxxxx.com [mailto:ljohnson@xxxxxxx.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 11:21 PM
To: Ed Swiderski
Subject: Re: Muddy Buddy Race – August 2, 2009

Why isn’t it that easy? If you don’t come home tomorrow are u bound there the entire 6 weeks? I can’t do this, ed. I’m sick to my stomach constantly. If you’re going to be there longer u HAVE to tell me asap. It’s not fair. You promised 2 weeks. Promised. She doesn’t deserve to have ur attention any longer. This isn’t right. You being there isn’t right. How r u pretending? Are u pretending? Come back to me. Please. Screw f’ing abc. If you want to come home to me it shouldn’t be that hard. Should it?

I’m just having a really tough time with this. I miss you.
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

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From: Ed Swiderski
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:43:37 -0700
To: ljohnson@xxxxxxx.com
Subject: RE: Muddy Buddy Race – August 2, 2009

Trying, though it’s not that easy. This is a complete mind f*ck!!!

From: ljohnson@xxxxxxx.com [mailto:ljohnson@xxxxxxx.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2009 4:36 PM
To: Ed Swiderski
Subject: Re: Muddy Buddy Race – August 2, 2009

U have to!! Plz.
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

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From: Ed Swiderski
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:35:37 -0700
To: ljohnson@xxxxxxx.com
Subject: RE: Muddy Buddy Race – August 2, 2009

Trying to leave tomorrow, hopefully I can pull it off.

From: ljohnson@xxxxxxx.com [mailto:ljohnson@xxxxxxx.com]
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 6:38 PM
To: Ed Swiderski
Subject: Re: Muddy Buddy Race – August 2, 2009

Are u done?? Will it be this weekend? I’m dying:(
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

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From: Ed Swiderski
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:36:57 -0700
To: ljohnson@xxxxxxx.com
Subject: RE: Muddy Buddy Race – August 2, 2009

I don’t know. I’ll call you as soon as I get my phone back.

From: ljohnson@xxxxxxx.com [mailto:ljohnson@xxxxxxx.com]
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 6:30 PM
To: Ed Swiderski
Subject: Re: Muddy Buddy Race – August 2, 2009

Ah, yes!!! When u coming home???????
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

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From: Ed Swiderski
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 16:28:11 -0700
To: Lindsey Johnson
Subject: RE: Muddy Buddy Race – August 2, 2009

Yes.

I’m going to molest you when I get home. Can you pick me up?

From: Lindsey Johnson [mailto:ljohnson@xxxxxxx.com]
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 11:42 AM
To: Ed Swiderski
Subject: Muddy Buddy Race – August 2, 2009

Would you want to do this??? Let’s!!!!!!

http://www.muddybuddy.com/events.php?id=7

Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

Remember, this is the last email exchange we have from Ed to either Lindsey or Bethany. So with that said, let’s lay out the facts based on what we’ve seen in emails.

-Three weeks before leaving to do the show, March 5th, in an email to Bethany, he specifically states that he “would be doing the show for the wrong reasons as I am not, in any way, attracted to this chick.”

-He then leaves to do the show telling both women he’s only interested in doing it for 2 weeks because that’s all work will allow (per both Lindsey and Bethany to “US Weekly”).

-This is then corroborated by his email exchange with Lindsey in which he is pretty much at the 2 week point, says he’s not having any fun, says he wants to come home, says he misses Lindsey, practically begging to leave, wants her to pick him up, calls the show a mind f**k, and that he wants to molest her.

So that’s where we stand in terms of email and texting proof that’s come to light. So Ed goes home, both women at that point say they saw him, hung out with him, and slept with him (unbeknownst to each other) during the period in which he was back in Chicago. Lindsey says they went to a wedding together (which friends of theirs have corroborated), and she spent the last four or five days with him before he told her he was leaving again for a business trip to “Texas”, which in reality, ended up being Spain and Hawaii. Let’s just stop right here at this point.

As for Bethany’s email, I think it’s safe to say these were two people that were more than casually dating before he left for the show. She did say it was “early”, and by all accounts, I heard they started dating in January of this year, so they were a few months in when he left. Sounds about right. The thing I found interesting about their exchange is she laid everything out on the table for him about how she was feeling, and rather than dismiss her as some crazy b**ch where he could’ve gone, “Whoa! Back up there, honey. Didn’t see that coming”, he comforted her, told her not to worry, said he wasn’t even thinking about the show, on and on and on. His response to her says a hell of a lot more than what she wrote him. Kinda shows that its not like this chick was stalking him. They were both into each other in March and were definitely more than just friends before he left for the show. If I were her, I probably just would’ve taken out the “I can see us being a power couple in Chicago” part. Ha ha. That was funny.

So here’s a guy that three weeks before leaving for the show, wanted no part of it. Admittedly wasn’t into the chick they cast, obviously was seeing someone back home that he was very much involved with (two people actually), but for whatever reason, was convinced to come on. My question is, why was ABC insisting on casting a guy who 3 weeks before filming, didn’t want to be there? If he’s telling ABC, “Oh, I can’t wait to do it”, but then on the flip side saying what he said to Bethany in the email, well then he’s a two-faced liar. We don’t know what he was saying to ABC, we only have his response to Bethany’s email. And that email was about as clear as day. He didn’t want to do it and told the director as such. Yet, three weeks later, he leaves to do the show. You tell me: What made the guy change his mind? The incentive of being able to use his computer and/or phone? Seems to be at least one incentive if you ask me.

I just can’t wrap my head around why a guy who clearly didn’t want to be on the show was cast anyway? Was ABC that desperate because guys were dropping like flies? Did they have a plan for him all along? Just doesn’t make much sense. Unless of course he was telling ABC how excited he was to do it, then telling Bethany the complete opposite. Wouldn’t be that far fetched. However, if we are to take him at his word for what he said to Bethany in his email, then there’s a reason he was cast on the show. I guess only he and a few others know what that reason is. All we can do is speculate. I know I will. Kind of an inquisitive person in case you couldn’t tell.

Let’s discuss Lindsey and Bethany for a minute. Not knowing either of them, I find it hard to believe they would throw this stuff out there if it wasn’t true. Of course, Chris Harrison will tell you that it’s because they were paid to tell their story. Yeah. And? Because they were paid to tell their story that all the sudden makes it not true? So anyone who’s ever been paid to tell their story either in a book, or in a magazine, is now a liar? Not saying everything they say is the gospel, but to automatically dismiss their story because money was exchanged is just ignorant. In fact, “US Weekly” was going to run the story whether or not Lindsey or Bethany spoke to them, that’s all but been confirmed. All the girls did was apparently fill them in on the details. What would you have rather seen: An “US Weekly” story with no proof of emails, texts, phone calls, etc and just a bunch of “sources say”, “a friend close to the situation”, and “an insider confirms”, or, them telling their stories and citing specific dates, locations, and conversations? I much prefer the latter, thank you.

Both women said what they said to “US Weekly” and I’m sure a lot of you questioned it, but these two emails were essentially what they were referring to. Seems to me Ed completely had both girls believing that the other one didn’t even exist, started doing the show for fun, and two weeks in STILL didn’t want to be there and wanted to come home to “molest” Lindsey. Nice. How romantic of him. At this point, I’m trying to figure out where Ed gets off thinking that nobody would find out about this. In one interview I read, Lindsey even told him, “Look, the magazines are calling me and want my story. I’m going to tell them what happened”, and just as Ed said to me, he gave her the go-ahead. Told her to tell her side rather than letting the tabloids make up their own story. And you thought the Jason/Molly/Melissa fiasco was weird. I’m telling you, I don’t think it could’ve gotten more bizarre than that, but this season I think takes the cake. I have no idea what the hell is going on here. What I do know is something isn’t right. And I think a lot of you can see that as well.

You’ve heard Lindsey and Bethany’s story from the time he left to go back on the show to where we are now. He kept in contact with each of them, but not nearly as much. He said he was going to Texas, when he really didn’t. He gets back from filming in Hawaii, an engaged man mind you, yet according to Lindsey, on June 4th, they slept together after she confronted him with, “Are you the final one?” When the guy answered with, “What do you think?”, she took that as a “no”, and they slept together. Obviously, if she’s over at his apartment after being invited, why would she have any reason to believe the guy was engaged and the final guy? Told you this story was bizarre.

I’m even fine if Ed and Jillian don’t want to speak with me on record. In fact, I even respect it. I’d throw the whole kitchen sink at them. They need to be asked specific questions like, “Ed, both women have email exchanges with you before and during filming. Can you explain them?” Not, “Hey, what is your reaction to these allegations?” Those are so easy to brush off without getting into specifics, as you can see by how they’ve answered everything thus far. Why can’t Ed answer, “Hey, did you send a text to Bethany that said, ‘Bring the beer and condoms’.” If you didn’t, why does she have one that says you did? How about, “Lindsey says you slept with her AFTER you got home from filming in Hawaii, on June 4th, at your apartment. If it didn’t happen the way she said it, explain how you think it happened.” Or how about to Jillian, “If you’re claiming that you’re not even reading these allegations from both women, then how can you say you know everything that happened? What exactly has Ed told you about both Lindsey and Bethany?” Because for my dollar, you can bet your ass whatever he told Jillian, he probably left out a few parts. Or ten. That’s all I’m asking is for someone to be held accountable and to answer the tougher questions.

Who I would be curious to hear from is ABC/Next Entertainment in all this. The fact that one individual from the show was allowed to make personal emails while filming should be a giant red flag. The show, and specifically Chris Harrison, prides themselves on saying these guys are isolated from the outside world and aren’t allowed to talk to anybody. So not only was the “final guy” contacting work, he was basically sending sexual emails to a woman he was seeing back home. How come no one from the network or Next Entertainment is commenting on this? It’s not like Lindsey and Bethany are just alleging Ed did this. They have the proof. They’ve shown the emails to the tabloids, and now for the first time, you are seeing them in email form. And if ABC/Next Entertainment actually were to say they had no idea who Ed was contacting, well, I find that hard to believe. This is the show that wants you to believe everything you’re seeing is real, and all they do is turn on the cameras, and you see a love story play out. Uh huh. It’d be nice if someone stepped up to the plate and copped to what really went on.

One thing Lindsey kept referencing in her “US Weekly” interview was that Ed kept telling her, “Wait until July 20th (essentially when the show was over), and I’ll be able to explain everything.” Actually Ed, the show’s finale aired the 27th, but whatever. Anyway, him constantly telling her to just be patient and wait til the show was over so he could explain himself makes things even MORE confusing in my eyes. Ummmm, you were engaged at that point. How would Lindsey (and Bethany for that matter) understand things better when they see the finale and the guy who’s been stringing them along, is not only the final guy, but he’s engaged? What exactly were you going to explain at that point? I would’ve respected the guy a hell of a lot more if after he got back from filming, he cut off ALL contact with both women, left them both high and dry, and if they tried to contact him, he would just say, “Sorry. Lose my number. I’ve moved on.” But still, even after getting back from Hawaii as an engaged man, he’s telling them he has an explanation for all this and just to wait until the finale airs? Too bad we never got to hear that explanation because I’m dying to know what the hell that would’ve been. Both women moved on and don’t speak to him anymore, or else I guess we would’ve heard this explanation. I have no idea what it could’ve been though.

So where we stand right now, as far as I know, Jillian is set to move in with Ed in about a week. Both Lindsey and Bethany have moved on and are over the whole situation. You probably even saw in this past week’s “US Weekly” that Lindsey is dating the former roommate of Andrew Firestone. Small world we live in. If I come across anything else, I will share it with you, but it seems like this will be the last straw on this topic. What else can be said? It’s basically come down to whose side do you believe? If Ed was so into Jillian and had to come back on the show because he couldn’t stop thinking of her and felt he made a mistake, why in the time that he was home did he sleep with both women and basically act like a single guy? Was he committed to Jillian at that point? No. Did he really do anything wrong when he was home other than enjoy himself with two girls he was seeing? I guess not really. However, from the time he showed up back on the show claiming he couldn’t stop thinking of Jillian, that’s where I think people can question his sincerity. Look at the emails. Look at the timeline of the emails. How does one go from the emotional state he was in before AND during the middle of filming to the emotional state he’s in now in regards to being engaged and about to move Jillian in? It’s a question that’s probably gonna go unanswered for a while. But it sure is fun to speculate about.

98 Comments

98 Comments

  1. DeeCee

    August 26, 2009 at 4:13 PM

    Further tweet from erikadaniel:

    “yes.it was ed.yes,drunk,if not coked out as well.yes,hitting on women like crazy.disgusting.poor jillian.”

  2. Mozart

    August 26, 2009 at 4:50 PM

    “August 26th, 2009 at 16:13 | #51 Reply | Quote Further tweet from erikadaniel:

    “yes.it was ed.yes,drunk,if not coked out as well.yes,hitting on women like crazy.disgusting.poor jillian.”

    If this is true, like a poster on the alphabet board said, Ed may be trying to sabotage Jillian so that she doesn’t move to Chicago, and he can have his old life back…..
    But the tweet about Ed hitting on the tweeter’s sister and smoking cigars out of his nose – that part sounds fabricated to me.
    Although regarding the other tweet……Ed could have been up to some mischief last Saturday night.
    So if true, it sounds like Ed is just screaming to be caught so that Jillian will call off their engagement and break up with him.
    By the way, if this has beenm posted before, please excuse me.
    I saw on JU a link to the new US Weekly.
    The caption for the photo of Ed on the cover – upper left-hand corner – said that Ed was caught cheating again.
    You have to buy the magazine to read the complete article.
    Or you can read it in the check-out line at a supermarket.

  3. trs

    August 26, 2009 at 4:53 PM

    Hey Steve…did you know you were on E! News yesterday?…they showed a picture of your website while they were reporting about the Ed and Jillian story, (and possible cheating, emails, etc.) using you as a source…just wondering if you caught it. Love your site!

  4. jbelle52784

    August 26, 2009 at 5:20 PM

    Ever considered getting a real job?? You’re a pitiful piece of crap!!

  5. Mozart

    August 26, 2009 at 6:43 PM

    The alphabet board is down at the moment……
    Before it went down, I read a shocking post there.
    How reliable it is, I don’t know.
    I would give the link if the board were open right now…..
    It is on the second to the last page on the thread about the recent Chicago Tribune article.
    A poster claims that her boyfirned is a friend of Ed, and that the reality of the Ed situation is even worse than has been reported.
    She wrote that her boyfriend told her that Ed only went back to the show because the producers promised him more money to do so.
    According to her: Ed was promised by the producers that he would not be the F1, but they wanted him back in order to create more drama for the show (after having left the show).
    When Jillian sent Reid home, Ed was terrified; now he had a strong chance of being F1!
    Well, we all know how this story ended on the show…..
    Afterwards, Jillian also was promosed additional money if she stayed with Ed for a specified period of time; it was okay with the producers if they broke up after this timespan.
    During this post-show time up to the present time, Ed has been ridiculing Jillian behind her back, making awful comments about her. :-(
    (I hope this is not true; I really like Jillian. She is a genuine and kind person. I really hoped that she would find her true love and solemate on the show – rare though that might be.)
    So according to this woman who says that her boyfriend is a friend of Ed – Ed and Jillian are just biding their time until they can break up, – in order to collect the money that ABC promised them…….

  6. Mozart

    August 26, 2009 at 6:47 PM

    I had a typo and wanted to edit my post. I meant “soulmate”

  7. Mozart

    August 26, 2009 at 7:25 PM

    Here’s the link to the story on the alphabet board:

    http://abc.go.com/primetime/bachelorette/index?pn=mb&cat=197880&tid=711377&tsn=161

    Post 170

  8. SixFootBlonde

    August 26, 2009 at 8:32 PM

    Jillian, Jillian, Jillian…. a Player never changes his spots, sister-girl!! Don’t you know this?? What Ed’s done “for you” he will do “TO YOU”, in time.

    Listen: ain’t NO man THAT fine that you should knowingly set yourself up for more heart break!!

    Yeah, I know. He told you that this time it is “different,”… right?

    Okay. Good luck with that.

  9. ginny2112

    August 26, 2009 at 10:22 PM

    Those emails confirm something sketchy was going on… I guess we will know how much faith Jillian has if she stays with him in the end (although I predict a break up before November). I guess the only flip side could be that he did break up with Bethany before starting the show… then broke up with Lindsey during the break or right when he got back. It could be he didnt want to end the relationship incase things did not work out. I really really hope for Jill’s sake on June 4th he didnt sleep with Lindsey. Time will tell… I always say the truth is somewhere in the middle… To bad ed wont tell us his side.

  10. terry-pat

    August 26, 2009 at 10:55 PM

    Steve.I gave you a hard time,still will.But,hey I said,I am a big girl I can take it,the recaps,some I like some I don’t,but hey,that is what you did,and well on every recap,you are not going to please everybody and that was ok.It is so much easier to mock and make fun of people you don’t know.It is so much harder,once you meet someone.I am a canuck,and it can be done,like Rick Mercer report,he dishes them,they come to get dished by him,why,maybe it is better to be seen on a popular show,the one the people like,or I guess not to be seen at all.My point I think you were into communincations,so it has been hard for you…humourous recaps were you thing,then last year not so, the reveal,and,so on this year,not so good things…anyhow thanks for trying to wear two hats…love to the boss our favorite doogie…AKA your boss.

  11. cubbieblue Kristin

    August 26, 2009 at 11:04 PM

    Mozart :
    The alphabet board is down at the moment……
    Before it went down, I read a shocking post there.
    How reliable it is, I don’t know.
    I would give the link if the board were open right now…..
    It is on the second to the last page on the thread about the recent Chicago Tribune article.
    A poster claims that her boyfirned is a friend of Ed, and that the reality of the Ed situation is even worse than has been reported.
    She wrote that her boyfriend told her that Ed only went back to the show because the producers promised him more money to do so.
    According to her: Ed was promised by the producers that he would not be the F1, but they wanted him back in order to create more drama for the show (after having left the show).
    When Jillian sent Reid home, Ed was terrified; now he had a strong chance of being F1!
    Well, we all know how this story ended on the show…..
    Afterwards, Jillian also was promosed additional money if she stayed with Ed for a specified period of time; it was okay with the producers if they broke up after this timespan.
    During this post-show time up to the present time, Ed has been ridiculing Jillian behind her back, making awful comments about her.
    (I hope this is not true; I really like Jillian. She is a genuine and kind person. I really hoped that she would find her true love and solemate on the show – rare though that might be.)
    So according to this woman who says that her boyfriend is a friend of Ed – Ed and Jillian are just biding their time until they can break up, – in order to collect the money that ABC promised them…….

    Wow that’s disgusting but some reason doesn’t surprise me. Any of it. I totally believe the producers would offer him more money to come back. I had heard after he left the show 1st time she was moping around and wouldn’t cooperate w/ filming like they wanted so they prob called him up and told him if he came back it would be more money in it for him and that he wouldn’t have to worry about being F1. Oh well.. jokes on him.

    I feel sorry for Jillian if he’s been saying nasty stuff behind her back. She seems like a nice girl. I still say she should have picked Reid instead.

  12. gabriella703

    August 26, 2009 at 11:59 PM

    all of this makes me never want to watch this show ever again.

    And – yes, I live in Chicago and the Hunt Club is an extremely cheesy place for underage and young 20 somethings. Haven’t been there in at least 10 years. It is not a cool place to hang around here…

  13. cubbieblue Kristin

    August 27, 2009 at 12:45 AM

    gabriella703 :
    all of this makes me never want to watch this show ever again.
    And – yes, I live in Chicago and the Hunt Club is an extremely cheesy place for underage and young 20 somethings. Haven’t been there in at least 10 years. It is not a cool place to hang around here…

    Yes! That’s what I wanted to say too. I used to hang out at Hunt Club and all those cheesy Division Street bars when i was 21. They quickly became silly. Figures someone like Ed would go to a cheesy place like this. Then again, perfect way for him to meet young 20 somethings!

  14. happybunny09

    August 27, 2009 at 2:33 AM

    Good analogy Terry-Pat. Why do politicians go on SNL? Like Sarah Palin for example. That was funny.

    For our American friends who may not understand the Canadian Rick Mercer reference.

  15. may_ellen

    August 27, 2009 at 2:41 PM

    Boy, the rumors are getting wild! Look how its snow-balling!

    There is no need to hang on every word from Ed’s emails. He was dong what a lot of guys do: string women along until they get the one girl they want. Jillian was dating other guys at the time, so Ed was not cheating.

    He told these girls he was going on the show. They should have dropped him like a hot potato. Instead they are emailing him and begging him to come home.

    Let this be a lesson girls! Don’t date a guy who is going on a dating show, or otherwise trying to meet other women! Even if he says “I love you” “This is just for fun” “I’m not serious about this”, all you should hear is “blah blah blah.” He is trying to meet someone else; he’s just not that into you!

    Yes, I think he truly cares for Jillian now. I think at first he didn’t think he’d fall for her, but he did. Why is that so hard to believe? Jesse said the same thing on DeAnna’s season.

    We’ll never know if he cheated after he got engaged. All this is speculation and wild rumors. Only time will tell. Lets move on!

  16. happybunny09

    August 27, 2009 at 3:08 PM

    Which is why Jesse and DeAnnae are still together?

  17. madelle266

    August 27, 2009 at 4:02 PM

    Booooooooooooooring!

  18. may_ellen

    August 27, 2009 at 4:07 PM

    thats not the point. the point is he fell in love with her when he did’t think he would.@happybunny09

  19. may_ellen

    August 27, 2009 at 4:10 PM

    yeah, it is boring to just let them be, isn’t it? if you want to waste your time speculating, go ahead.@may_ellen

  20. may_ellen

    August 27, 2009 at 4:11 PM

    yeah, it is boring to just let them be, isn’t it? if you want to waste your time speculating, go ahead. that was meant @madelle266

  21. DeeCee

    August 27, 2009 at 5:41 PM

    Lesson for Jilly, courtesy of may_ellen: “He is trying to meet someone else; he’s just not that into you”…..

  22. happybunny09

    August 28, 2009 at 2:04 AM

    I suspect Ed could commit murder and people could rationalize it. Like his bj remark, very classy or getting into a car to drive after 5 vodka tonics. Guys that age do that kind of thing, it’s OK. Not his fault if people are victims of his behaviour they should just know better. So just don’t be on the roads when guys like Ed are getting out of the bar. If you get killed by a drunk driver it’s your fault you shouldn’t have been out on the road that late.

  23. swordlady

    August 28, 2009 at 9:45 AM

    It’s difficult to muster up any sympathy for Jillian for anything that happened during the filming. She slept with two other men just days before becoming engaged, and no one seems to have a problem with that. I would guess Ed rationalized his behavior during the taping that way. What happened after the engagement is another story, of course. The only people worthy of sympathy at this point, though, are those two women. By all accounts, they seem to be real women with real feelings pursuing normal relationships…something that can’t be said of either Ed or Jillian.

  24. jkazoo

    August 28, 2009 at 4:29 PM

    OK…so we are aware that everyone is paid to stay, and dialogue is manipulated. So, this isn’t “Reality” it’s a Soap Opera. That’s why Ed said it’s OK to show what a jerk he is, because the money was too good vs. be a stand up guy and defend his honor(rather, he’s defending his bachelor ways). He is not an honorable man. Jillian is in on this too, so she is just a pawn, a soap opera character that was just written off. ABC loves this…they are creating this too. Why do you think they haven’t named a bachelor yet, it’s because this story still has some life left to it. Ed loves Steve’s blog? Ed wants his t-shirt..probably feels Steve is in on this too. I’m ashamed of myself for thinking a Trista and Ryan might be possible again, to watch each season like it’s opening day at Wrigley. Too bad.

  25. poddington

    August 28, 2009 at 7:13 PM

    wasn’t she really jazzed up about whether someone had a girlfriend? It seemed pretty important to her, or at least for the producers for us to think it was important . So it is either an ironic,sad ending with a lonely girl now a doormat ….or a cruel masterminded plot to top last season’s publicity for the show -all encouraged by the producers who knew all along this guy was a sleazy ass hat.

  26. Mozart

    August 29, 2009 at 12:24 AM

    “It’s difficult to muster up any sympathy for Jillian for anything that happened during the filming. She slept with two other men just days before becoming engaged, and no one seems to have a problem with that.”

    I don’t think that Jillian went so far as to actually sleep with the other two men, Reid and Kip, during the filming – or at all.
    This show gives the viewers the illusion of things.
    Jillian has never said that she slept with Reid or Kip.
    I think that from the very beginning, Jillian fell madly in love with Ed and being madly in love, she wouldn’t have wanted to sleep with any other guy except Ed.

    And Jillian certaily didn’t have to sleep with anyone; the camera is not supposed to be in the FS anyway, and if it is, then what is implied is likely far off the mark.

    Jillian said at the beginning of the series that if she does not meet her Mister Right, that she would be back to square one, before she filmed the show – and she had had a good life before the show, so nothing would be lost……

    Only Jillian unfortunately didn’t reckon with falling in love with the wrong guy – a fellow who hid his true nature from her and pretended to be the Ed that Jillain fell in love with – hard-working, respectful, rather unassuming and modest, IT techie Ed, who had no girlfriend and liked to spend his weekends preparing for the work week and singing karioke at a neighborhood bar with his pals…..

    Poor Jillian, whom I feel sorry for, fell into a trap that she didn’t foresee…..
    If Jillian had known that the real Ed was far from her fanatasy Ed, she would certainly have either picked someone else or would have finished the show with no one.
    And poor Jillian would have been much better off in the end.

    Now, she has to – sooner or later – extricate herself from this mess.
    If she is still sooooo in love – or in lust – with Ed – then she will pay the price later on in not being able to trust her mate, which makes for a shaky, stressful relationship – and perhaps eventually moving on…..

  27. julia

    August 30, 2009 at 9:11 PM

    omg people get over it and move on…soldiers are dying in war and you’re worried about some fake reality tv couple…this was only interesting for like the first week after the finale aired.

  28. petunia

    August 30, 2009 at 10:21 PM

    @julia

    I just love when people enter a discussion that’s dying down in order to tell others that the discussion is pointless and unimportant and not worth continuing because they are not interested in it.

    omg, Julia, it’s the internet. It’s vast, and there are discussions going on, some of which do not interest you. Get over it and move on.

  29. bachshady

    September 1, 2009 at 4:31 AM

    Posted on ABC bachelor beta website:
    —————————————————–
    GET TO KNOW
    When it comes to falling in love, The Bachelor has the formula down: Add a parade of 25 (often-times bikini-clad) babes, a hot tub, tear-riddled elimination rounds, verbal cat fights, multiple make-out sessions and a mansion.

    When it comes to staying in love… well…

    *crickets*

    The Bachelor takes us on an all-access journey with one man looking for his ultimate sweetheart.

    Whether you’re envious, excited or completely revolted by the scenario, we know you can’t help but spy on our leading man as he plays tonsil hockey with his many lady loves. Arguably the luckiest guy on the planet–for just one television season–our bachelor finds himself TOTALLY exempt from the cheating rule. In this world, nobody hates the player.

    The bachelor is the object of 25 girls’ affection. And these women aren’t those trashy bar flies you see on other reality dating shows–these ladies are classy (yes, with a “c”!) and they are looking to get hitched. Have no doubts over their determination–these women will do anything to make an impression. ANYTHING. You get to see how lady contestants play the game not only in front of the bachelor, but also what side they show the other girls. (Two-face much, ladies?) And we know you love it when the claws come out. Oh, and they do!

    Will these bachelorettes’ efforts go unnoticed? You’ll find out because you get to play spy during all of the one-on-one dates. These rendezvous can involve anything from couples massage and bubble baths to helicopter rides and bungee jumping.

    At the end of each episode, the bachelor reflects on all of his darlings to determine who will go home in the rose ceremony elimination. And we know his choices are always the subject of heated living room debate. As the season progresses, you are taken along on the bachelorettes’ hometown visits where our playboy extraordinaire switches gears to meet the family. You’d think the prospect of in-laws would kill the buzz for our said mack daddy. But quite the opposite inevitably occurs as the bachelor falls further down the relationship rabbit hole.

    Who will steam up the hot tub with the bachelor this season? From which exotic location will he propose to his “true love”? Sit back and enjoy as host, Chris Harrison, A/K/A “The Pimp Master,” guides us each week as the bachelor narrows down the field of his female pickings to the final ONE!

  30. kev22

    September 1, 2009 at 11:03 AM

    “omg people get over it and move on…” — …And that’s why you’re here. Reading. About a fake reality tv show. Right, Julia.

  31. CWJ

    September 2, 2009 at 12:21 AM

    jbelle52784 :Ever considered getting a real job?? You’re a pitiful piece of crap!!

    @jbelle52784
    If you don’t like what Steve has to say/comment on … perhaps YOU need to get a real job. I suggest YOU’RE the “pitiful piece of crap” since no one is forcing you to read Steve’s comments.

  32. lithargic

    September 2, 2009 at 4:36 AM

    I blame Wes for everything.

  33. jan

    September 2, 2009 at 11:32 AM

    I wish Reality Steve had recapped MORE TO LOVE for us devotees. Sigh…that show is The Bachelor on Twinkies! It’s great….to make fun of. WHOA…SHE’S BIG…where’s RS when you need him?

  34. Juliana

    September 2, 2009 at 1:43 PM

    The guy can’t keep it in his pants! Thanks Steve for the continued laughs.

  35. happybunny09

    September 2, 2009 at 2:24 PM

    So Steve you are teasing about the new bachelor – since Fleiss already said it would be Reid or Kip or Jake, you must have information is none of the above – as long as it isn’t Bret Michael or Flavour Flav

    Could it be Ed? Wes? Does Ed have a brother? An actor? An athlete?

  36. susie

    September 2, 2009 at 9:49 PM

    jan :I wish Reality Steve had recapped MORE TO LOVE for us devotees. Sigh…that show is The Bachelor on Twinkies! It’s great….to make fun of. WHOA…SHE’S BIG…where’s RS when you need him?

    @jan

  37. susie

    September 2, 2009 at 9:51 PM

    @jan: Steve has more class than to make fun of plus-sized women. It is just not funny, it is rude.

  38. Lulu

    September 3, 2009 at 12:49 AM

    A poster was looking for this quote on the ABC board, I am the one that posted it there. I read it on the Chicago Tribune article about Ed and Jillian that was published August 26th, and this was the first comment in the comments section at 4:23 p.m. I copied and pasted it for my own use, and here is the original comment, shocking as it is. I agree that Ed is a swine:
    ” I know Ed through my boyfriend, and believe me he is getting off EASY with this coverage. The truth is so much worse. He only went back to the show for monetary reasons and with the promise that he WOULD NOT be the final guy but would just be there to create drama. He was mortified after the one realtor guy got cut because that was who Ed was told that she was in love with. Both have been promised additional money if they continue for a certain period of time, and he really wants that bonus. His hand is also forced right now to stay with Jillian for that specific period of time or until she decides to call it quits because somehow the show has a copy of all this, plus a lot more that hasn’t been made public. Jillian is the butt of a joke to Ed, and talks really horribly about her to his friends. It is now a game to see how horribly he can behave and her still want to be with him. There has been an indiscretion AFTER all this story broke. There is a very good reason that none of his old friends have come forward to defend him. I am dying to talk to Jillian and tell her everything, but Ed knows how much he disgusts me so he probably won’t bring her around when I am there, at least not until he has earned his bonus. He is a pig.
    DaBearsGal (08/26/2009, 4:23 PM )”

  39. jcrew617

    September 5, 2009 at 7:59 PM

    Hey Steve, Thanks for all the reporting, but I think you are being spoon-fed a story by the PR dept of ABC/Next – they want scandals to improve ratings. Sure some ABC people must have been upset that you broke the Jason/Melissa scandal, but they certainly weren’t upset after seeing the ratings for the re-union show.

    Real life is weird, unscripted, bizarre, yet completely exploitable. I think the ABC producers realized they can no longer have a “scripted” reality show and ignore real life indiscretions, break-ups, love triangles, work problems, and monetary rewards.

    There’s the fake reality show, and now there is the fake “real-life.” You’ve said the show isn’t about finding love and I think at this point the producers know there is no way to force or pretend love. But I think people watch to believe the fantasy and for the entertainment.

    I feel bad for Jillian, but she did seem to want the bad boys. Its unfortunate that she was duped, but in the real world, love is often messy, people date around, and it often doesn’t work out.

  40. mexintaco8883

    September 7, 2009 at 10:27 PM

    so, part of this is confusing me! Why, on June 4th, would Lindsey even ask “are you the final one” if she thought he had already finished the show weeks before and was on a business trip just prior to seeing eachother on June 4th? that makes no sense. There would be no reason to ask him that question..

  41. smartin6789

    September 11, 2009 at 6:32 PM

    maybe we should call you bachelorette/bachelor steve. you haven’t covered any reality shows. what about big brother/top chefc come on

  42. Stacey

    September 12, 2009 at 12:45 PM

    Just in case you missed the “Ellen Show” appearance:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtZE2vYUUQo

    Could this guy being any more smug and arrogant? He chaulks up his behavior to being “a bachelor in every sense of the word”? Come on…that was the best excuse you can come up with after having several weeks to think about it? Even Ellen tries to school him, but he dismisses it. Ed continues to be the biggest douchebag in Bachelor/Bachelorette history. Who is advising this guy? If he had an ounce of brains or introspection, he would have apologized on national TV to Lindsey and Bethany for being such a cad, and then apologized to Jillian for any embarrassment he caused her. And yes, Ed, you owe the fans an apology, too. When you signed up for a huge reality TV show and Bachelorette adored by millions, you invited the public into your life, and there should be a sense of responsibility there, too. Regarding Jillian being “one of the most intelligent women I’ve ever met” – granted she is beautiful, sincere, and apparently the most trusting woman on the planet, but intelligent? Is “intelligent” Ed-code for “easy manipulated”? And, with all due respect to Jillian, can someone that knows her please tell her proper grammer is “he and I”, not “him and I”. Women of Chicago – head for the hills after the big break-up which I predict will come quietly after the next Bachelor season airs so there is something else for the fans to focus on.

  43. Coach10

    September 26, 2009 at 8:30 AM

    Okay RS, the new Bachelor is supposed to be announced on the Oct. 13th episode of Dancing with the Stars. Any insight as to who it’s gonna be???

  44. happybunny09

    September 27, 2009 at 3:09 PM

    Given it was just announced that Reid, Kiptyn, Jesse and Michael are appearing at the Calgary Women’s show on October 24th and filming is supposed to start October 15th or at least the meet and greet, guessing it is not Reid or Kip. Which leaves……………..

  45. Lindsey

    September 27, 2009 at 8:01 PM

    I saw Jillian and Ed at the Kenny Chesney concert in Indianapolis this past weekend. They seemed happy and were having a good time…

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