The Bachelor Recap – 2/22/10 “The Women All Lie”

    
February 23rd, 2010 | 103 Comments | Posted in The Bachelor 14 - Jake

Which brings us to Rozlyn. I have good news. I will have an interview with Rozlyn up on the site this week. I’m hoping Thursday. For weeks now, all we’ve heard is Rozlyn in short sound bites, edited clips, and on the defensive. Now, it’s gonna be her turn. Since the beginning of the season, I’ve written down every complaint and question people have had regarding Rozlyn in hopes that the interview would finally come about. She will get asked ALL of those questions and more. But rather than seeing her on a tabloid TV show for three or four minutes, you know how my interviews go. I’m expecting it to be rather long. Rozlyn will definitely have to answer all the questions everyone has had since day one regarding her. Sure, the basic answers are going to be ones you’ve probably already heard her say, but there will be stuff that the tabloids haven’t gotten into (or at least haven’t shown), that I’ll be able to get to since there’s no time constraints. This will be an interview you don’t want to miss. I’m looking forward to it. I’m aiming to air the interview on Thursday, barring any unforeseen circumstances. In the meantime, I want to touch on a couple issues regarding her appearance from last night.

The two most outspoken people last night in terms of “details” regarding the alleged “inappropriate relationship”, were Ella and Jessie. I will discredit what they said right now. First, let’s begin with Ella. Three weeks ago, she gave her post show interview. You can read the full interview here, but here’s the part of the interview where speaks about Rozlyn:

“First of all, I have to say that I really think that Rozlyn is a good person,” she told Reality TV World, adding the two had discussed how they were both mothers.

“I really did not see a lot with her and the producer. I saw them being very friendly with each other. I didn’t see anything out of the ordinary. So I have to say no, I wasn’t one of the ones who went to the producers.”

Due to all the media attention surrounding Papa, Nolan added she’s not envious of her.

“She’s dealing with a lot right now and I would not want to be in her shoes,” she told Reality TV World.

Whoa, whoa, whoa. So three weeks ago, Ella is telling everyone she feels bad for Rozlyn, never saw anything out of the ordinary, and that Rozlyn is a good person. Yet last night, she’s on the attack telling a story about Rozlyn on all fours on the couch with her ass in the air. Don’t you think that would be considered “out of the ordinary”? Are you kidding me? Did that just happen to slip your mind during this interview, even though you told it twice last night? Ummmm, Ella is lying. Plain and simple. Just read what Ella said three weeks ago above about Rozlyn, then remember what she said last night. Ya’ think she made that up? How anyone can believe anything that Ella said last night after reading this interview from three weeks ago is beyond me. Totally fabricated. Now Ella is claiming today she wanted to tell Rozlyn to her face rather than in a tabloid? Didn’t have to be a tabloid, Ella. This was your post show interview. That’s not tabloid stuff, that’s media you’re required to do by the show. And if you wanted to tell Rozlyn to her face, wouldn’t you either call/text/email her beforehand rather than sniping at her on the show when you hadn’t seen her since she was booted. Very motherly of you, I’d say. Your son would be proud.

As for Jessie, in the first hour of the show, when they asked the girls their thoughts on Rozlyn (when she wasn’t there), this is when she first tells the story of what she saw. She said it was “the day before Rozlyn got booted, I went inside because I wasn’t feeling well, I heard something on the stairs, and the producer was laying down with Rozlyn on top of him making out.” Fine. Great story. Yet when Rozlyn came out, Jessie’s story was “We were all by the pool, I came inside and saw you making out with the producer.” Jessie should probably get her stories straight. And if these two were making out “on the stairs with Rozlyn on top of the producer”, you’re telling me that NOT ONE CAMERA CAUGHT THAT? According to Jessie’s BS, they weren’t even hiding it. Just right there in the stairwell, yet, the cameras completely missed it! Wow! What a coincidence! If people want to study body language and speech pattern on Rozlyn and have a field day with that, so be it. Just do it on Ella and Jessie too. When Jessie was telling her story both times, I felt like she was trying to remember lines and hoping not to screw it up. In the first hour, she even got cotton mouth for a second and almost choked on a sentence.

After Jessie got eliminated, she did two interviews that I saw: a sit down interview in her hometown in Canada, and one with TVGuide.com, and in each one was asked about Rozlyn. The Canada interview was on TV and the host asked, “Ok, let’s talk about the big elephant in the room Rozlyn. There was scandal surrounding her. How’d you feel about Rozlyn?” So, considering how hard Jessie came at Rozlyn last night, for sure she’s already told that story before, right? Surely she’s had that story saved up for anybody that would stick a mic in front of her to finally let loose? Not quite. When pressed about Rozlyn after being booted, this was all Jessie said about her on a TV interview in Canada:

“She was a nice girl, she’s very flirtatious, and you know, everyone was crying when the news came out and when she was sent home. But, I’m like, ‘Why are you crying?’ This is one less girl you have to worry about’.”

Ummmm, that’s it? That’s all you had to say a couple weeks ago, yet, last night you’ve been holding in this deep, dark, scandalous secret about two people on top of each other on the stairs making out? Didn’t bother to ever mention that during your time on the show or before last night, huh? Oh, ok. Verrrrrrry believable. Then the capper of it all, here was the question and answer she gave to TVGuide.com back on Jan. 28th:

TVG: Let’s talk about Rozlyn for a second. Were you privy to what some of the other girls saw?

Jessie: I didn’t see anything, but I heard that other people might have seen something, but we all got over it and past it pretty quickly. We never really talked about it in the house again after that night.

That really sounds like a woman who really cared about what was going on with Roz and the producer. Admits to not seeing anything, then says she hears some things, but everyone was over it pretty quickly and moved past it. Really? Well apparently not considering what people said last night. So which is it? Ladies and gentlemen, if you still honestly believe that story Jessie told on stage twice last night, then you are living in a fantasy world. Just like Ella, she lied. I don’t know how much clearer I can make this. I just gave you examples. These women have done a complete 180 in their answers in less than a month, whereas, Rozlyn has been telling the same story since she got booted in that nothing happened. Both of those women, for whatever reason, decided to change their stories, give in to the producers instructions before the show, and go after Rozlyn. Money? Attention? Promised things? I have no idea. But it’s clear now they had some motivation to not saying anything until the “Women Tell All” show when Rozlyn happened to be there.

Still don’t believe it? Remember what Valishia said on the show last night to Rozlyn about not believing her anymore? Yeah, she made that up, has since apologized to Rozlyn, and essentially admits giving in to being pressured to say that. Read it here. “I kind of felt a little bombarded by producers and people who tried to sway me to that side.” Uh huh. Yeah, none of that was staged last night. Sure it wasn’t. So I applaud Valishia for coming to the defense of her friend and doing that. I’m proud of you, Valishia. So is Dmitry from “Dancing with the Stars”. Anyway, along the lines of what Valishia is saying, I think the fact that we never heard one word come out of Corrie’s mouth last night speaks volumes. Corrie finished 5th. It’s not like she got booed the first night. Had definitely stuff worth talking about considering the whole virgin angle, yet, we don’t hear anything from her last night. Why? Because she is a Rozlyn supporter. Corrie didn’t play along with the “attack Rozlyn” storyline last night, therefore, she wasn’t shown. The show had an agenda to paint Rozlyn last night as the woman who did everything wrong, so the only women you heard speak from the panel, were the ones that were willing to sling mud at her. Corrie wasn’t, so she wasn’t shown.

As I pointed out in the last few columns, four girls did post show interviews where they admitted to never seeing anything going on between the producer and Rozlyn (Ashley E., Michelle, Ella, and Corrie), yet at the WTA, now all the sudden they’re all chirping? A little suspicious if you ask me. Ok, a lot suspicious. I mentioned in Thursday’s column. Never in the history of all the “Tell All” episodes have they had one person sequestered from the rest of the group like Rozlyn was, brought out without having heard anything going on backstage, taken off stage after her segment was up, and not allowed to attend any after parties. Rozlyn was brought in for her segment by a freakin’ security guard escort. Huh? Is she a murderer now? They treated her last night like she was on death row about to be put down by lethal injection. If someone could please answer me why Rozlyn wasn’t allowed to mingle with all the other girls before, during, or after the show, and why she was sequestered from everyone else, then maybe, just maybe, you can convince me it wasn’t staged. But since no one will address that, I will. It’s because every other girl was in their green room before the show started being told by producers what to bring up on stage. Hook them up to a lie detector test, all of em’, and I guarantee they’ll admit the truth. But it’ll never happen, so, I guess we’re stuck with what was shown. Just like the Wes situation, people will believe what they choose to believe. I’m here to tell you what really happened.

As mentioned during the Wes edit last season (which they built at least 3 or 4 episodes around, the fact they claim he had a girlfriend and even told Jake about it), for two seasons in a row now, the two BIGGEST scandals in the history of the show, yet, they never had any audio or video footage of either. You’d think somewhere, somehow, someway, they’d have something. Especially considering how they promoted the hell out of both scandals. We got four specific examples of Rozlyn’s behavior last night from girls: Ella with the “ass” story, Jessie saying she saw them kissing, Christina talking about cuddling “24/7″ with hands on thighs, and other girls saying they all witnessed inappropriate behavior. No footage of ANY of this? Really? Nope, they just say, “Oh my God, look what happened! But ummmm, well, we have no proof.” Well, except Jake’s word since Wes told him, and these girls made up stories saying they saw it happened. You notice how when Rozlyn asked Chris, “Chris, tell me about this physical relationship, I really want to know more about this since you’ve been so vague”, that’s when Chris turned to the ladies to give their stories? How come Chris never relayed any story that he saw or heard of them together? For a guy who was on the attack with Rozlyn all night long, when pressed on it, he went to the “Well hey, this is what the girls saw”. Not once did Chris give any specific examples of stuff he knew. That’s because he didn’t see or know anything. The guy is barely around the house during filming, so he didn’t see or hear shit. Yet, he’s acting like he knew everything that was going on. Nice try.

Which brings me to my boy Chris. I think it’s about time I call him out. Chris, I am 100% dead serious when I say this: stop the lies. Seriously. Stop the lies. I thought last night he came off as a complete bully with an obvious agenda to attack Rozlyn from the get go, and I’m glad she stayed her ground. I thought she handled herself about as well as she could considering the circumstances. That being, the host of the show, and most everyone woman on stage attacking her. I am sending out an open invitation to Chris right now to come have a man-to-man phone interview with me for the site, and we can address everywhere he think I’m lying, and everywhere I think he’s lying. If I’m as wrong as he thinks I am, then he should have no issue putting me in my place. He should be jumping at the chance to answer everything I throw at him. I’ve got a bazillion questions for him, but this won’t be some sort of ambush. It will be professionally done, but just know, I am going to ask him things people want to know. And I will call him out for things he’s said that I couldn’t disagree with more. He can feel free to do the same. Just so everyone knows I’m serious, I’m sending an email today to three different ABC publicists requesting an interview with Chris. Once Chris declines (which I’m sure he will), or they decide to not even respond to me, I’ll notify everyone so you know where things stand. This needs to happen. I’ve been writing about this show for 17 seasons now and have had questions up the wazoo regarding how real it is. Well lets bring Chris on to talk about it. The guy never has a problem going on other shows talking down to all the critics, so why not come do an interview with the show’s biggest critic? The invitation is there. Ball is in your court, Chris. And any of you readers that would like to bug him on Twitter or his Facebook page about it, be my guest.

Anyway, regarding Facebook, I know a lot of you have requested me as a friend in the last couple weeks but haven’t heard back. There’s a reason for that. I’m almost maxed out right now on the 5,000 friends, and I have about 1,300 more requests I haven’t responded to. I guess I’m going to have to start a fan page soon. Hopefully I’ll get around to it this weekend. Any questions, comments, emails, or suggestions, email me at steve@realitysteve.com. Or you can follow me on Twitter at www.twitter.com/RealitySteve. See you tonight at 12:01am EST for the exclusive on Sunday’s ATFR taping. You don’t want to miss it.

Ok, I will be back later on this week with a few more “Women Tell All” details, in addition to more thoughts on Ali as the next Bachelorette, which is currently the worst kept secret on TV. If you want to join me on Twitter, my address is Twitter.com/RealitySteve. Or if you want to add me on Facebook, scroll down the right hand column under “My Stuff” and click on the appropriate link. See you soon…

103 thoughts on “The Bachelor Recap – 2/22/10 “The Women All Lie”

  1. beachbumz :OK, so… There is no proof in either direction, this whole thing is he said/she said, right? But here’s what we have- Producer is fired, then goes on to admit there was a sexual relationship with Rozlyn. AND gets separated from his wife because of it. Sounds like he loses a lot. Jessie saw them making out. Several others saw them cuddling. So ALL these people are lying? What in the world do ANY of them have to gain from telling such fabrications? Rozlyn on the other hand has motivation to lie- to (try to) save face. Yet she’s the one you believe, Steve? I still haven’t read one good reason to believe her over everyone else associated with the show. I think someone has a thing for her, hmmm?

    Producer was fired for sending a card to Roz’s son, Producer separated from his wife 9 months PRIOR to even meeting Rozlyn, Producer admits (still have not heard ANYTHING from his mouth yet only Chris’s) that he had a relationship with Roz in order to get his severance package.

    Yes, I did my research and his wife’s twitter prooves it.

  2. I agree with others here who have said that the truth lies somewhere in between. I do think that Rozlyn is a young woman who is willing to use her looks to get what she wants from men. She obviously realized fairly early on that this producer was infatuated with her. Maybe she thought that this could be used to her advantage. She probably thinks that flirting and fooling around isn’t that big a deal. Also, I would think the producer would know where all the cameras are and when they are on. That may well be the reason why there is no film footage of anything going on between them.

    When they escorted Rozlyn to the stage with this beefy bodyguard, it presented a powerful visual to the viewing audience. They had this guy with her to make sure that she didn’t have any contact with the other women and couldn’t hear what was being said on stage. It certainly made her look like some kind of criminal. She was basically walking into a trap. Once Chris got her on the record denying any inappropriate behavior of any kind, that’s all they needed. I don’t know that Rozlyn could have done anything else. If she answered his direct question ambiguously, then the viewing audience would conclude that she had something to hide.

    I thought Rozlyn’s best moment was when she asked Chris Harrison directly for specific instances of misconduct. Then all Chris had to do was wave his hand like an orchestra conductor and call on each of the women to give their pre-planned accusations. Rozlyn really had no chance. She might have responded differently to the women, kind of saying that she understood that they were just doing what they were told and she felt sorry for them. That would have been better than the stammering and defensive words she blurted out. But it was a total no-win situation. I thought Rozlyn’s worst moment was when she brought up that nonsense about Chris supposedly flirting with this producer’s wife in New Zealand. First, it had precisely nothing to do with the issue at hand. Second, it made Rozlyn look petty, mean-spirited and vindictive. That’s why they aired it. I am surprised that anyone would think that they wouldn’t air it. It only served to make Rozlyn look even worse than she already did.

    As far as the other women, I thought Valishia was the most interesting to watch. You can tell a lot from someone’s demeanor. She clearly was feeling a great deal of stress and didn’t seem comfortable going after Rozlyn. She even told Rozlyn that she knew that she liked her. Then she blurted out this bizarre story of being sick and Rozlyn not being in their room that night. So what’s the big deal with that? Also, if you are sick, then why would you get out of bed to go looking for your roommate? All she said was that she couldn’t find Rozlyn. Not particularly damning, if you ask me. I am not surprised to learn that she apologized to Rozlyn afterwards. As far as Terry, well, I feel that she her statements do line up. A slight correction doesn’t mean that she was lying. Ella’s detailed description of the four legged position Rozlyn was in seemed to be meant to inflame the viewing audience. Was she saying that Rozlyn was in that position with the producer guy underneath her? I don’t get it. Who cares if she had her chest down and her butt up in the air with her panties on. Oooh! Shocking!

    All I can say is, if that’s the best ABC can do when it comes to firsthand evidence, then they are in big trouble. I don’t think Rozlyn was intimate with this guy, but I do think there was some hanky-panky going on between them. Whether it rises to the level of a scandal and warranted all this attention, I have no idea. It could well be that the women were told to either exaggerate what they saw or told to flat out lie. At this point, I don’t think I even care. But I don’t think Rozlyn is an innocent as she would like all of us to believe.

  3. I’m sorry if someone already said this or asked this…but let me tell you there are so many comments here, I just couldn’t finish reading them. I would just like to say that I do not believe Rozlyn. I also do not feel the same as you RS about Chris H. This is his job…sure he is probably picking up a hefty truckload of cash to continue on in this charade…so do I blame him? Nope. Would I or could I? Nope. But, I believed the girls attacks more than I believed Rozlyns responses and facial expressions to them. Really? I mean I’m sure there are a huge percentage of woman out there, that if there were attacked and lies were spat right out in front of them like that, would break down. Sorry. She was not in anyway believable. Well except for the part about making a phone call to her son from the “never named” producer. That was about the most believable thing that came out of her mouth. And her attack at Chris about the “never named” producers wife…again I say “Really?” Any respectable honest woman would not air his dirty laundry out like that, truth or lie. I commend him for his response, whether he was lying or not. If she wants us to believe her…maybe she should try and put her big girl pants on.

    That show was a far cry from reality…though it fit the bill for entertainment…fake or real. It makes me laugh to see how many people believe any of this…I thank you RS for making us see the truth. Although I have to say that for the first time this season I have to disagree with you…Sorry, but Rozlyn is lying. Maybe just by not telling the whole truth, but in reality, omitting the truth is still lying. She’s hiding something…I would live to know what.

    Oh yeah. The “never named” producer came to visit her WITH his father!?! And she didn’t have ANY type of “inappropriate relationship” with him at all! C’mon Rozlyn! Give me a break!! You probably nuzzled his neck, gave him a hard on, now he follows you around everywhere like some love struck schmuck and you are loving every disgusting minute of it.

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