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> <channel><title>Comments on: The Bachelor Recap &#8211; 2/22/10 &#8220;The Women All Lie&#8221;</title> <atom:link href="http://realitysteve.com/2010/02/23/the-bachelor-recap-22210-the-women-all-lie/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://realitysteve.com/2010/02/23/the-bachelor-recap-22210-the-women-all-lie/</link> <description>My sarcastic, slanted, sophomoric, and skewed view on the world of reality television</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 00:59:55 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1</generator> <item><title>By: Really</title><link>http://realitysteve.com/2010/02/23/the-bachelor-recap-22210-the-women-all-lie/comment-page-3/#comment-31886</link> <dc:creator>Really</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 05:46:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://realitysteve.com/?p=456#comment-31886</guid> <description>I&#039;m sorry if someone already said this or asked this...but let me tell you there are so many comments here, I just couldn&#039;t finish reading them. I would just like to say that I do not believe Rozlyn. I also do not feel the same as you RS about Chris H. This is his job...sure he is probably picking up a hefty truckload of cash to continue on in this charade...so do I blame him? Nope. Would I or could I? Nope. But, I believed the girls attacks more than I believed Rozlyns responses and facial expressions to them. Really? I mean I&#039;m sure there are a huge percentage of woman out there, that if there were attacked and lies were spat right out in front of them like that, would break down. Sorry. She was not in anyway believable. Well except for the part about making a phone call to her son from the &quot;never named&quot; producer. That was about the most believable thing that came out of her mouth. And her attack at Chris about the &quot;never named&quot; producers wife...again I say &quot;Really?&quot; Any respectable honest woman would not air his dirty laundry out like that, truth or lie. I commend him for his response, whether he was lying or not. If she wants us to believe her...maybe she should try and put her big girl pants on.That show was a far cry from reality...though it fit the bill for entertainment...fake or real. It makes me laugh to see how many people believe any of this...I thank you RS for making us see the truth. Although I have to say that for the first time this season I have to disagree with you...Sorry, but Rozlyn is lying. Maybe just by not telling the whole truth, but in reality, omitting the truth is still lying. She&#039;s hiding something...I would live to know what.Oh yeah. The &quot;never named&quot; producer came to visit her WITH his father!?! And she didn&#039;t have ANY type of &quot;inappropriate relationship&quot; with him at all! C&#039;mon Rozlyn! Give me a break!! You probably nuzzled his neck, gave him a hard on, now he follows you around everywhere like some love struck schmuck and you are loving every disgusting minute of it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry if someone already said this or asked this&#8230;but let me tell you there are so many comments here, I just couldn&#8217;t finish reading them. I would just like to say that I do not believe Rozlyn. I also do not feel the same as you RS about Chris H. This is his job&#8230;sure he is probably picking up a hefty truckload of cash to continue on in this charade&#8230;so do I blame him? Nope. Would I or could I? Nope. But, I believed the girls attacks more than I believed Rozlyns responses and facial expressions to them. Really? I mean I&#8217;m sure there are a huge percentage of woman out there, that if there were attacked and lies were spat right out in front of them like that, would break down. Sorry. She was not in anyway believable. Well except for the part about making a phone call to her son from the &#8220;never named&#8221; producer. That was about the most believable thing that came out of her mouth. And her attack at Chris about the &#8220;never named&#8221; producers wife&#8230;again I say &#8220;Really?&#8221; Any respectable honest woman would not air his dirty laundry out like that, truth or lie. I commend him for his response, whether he was lying or not. If she wants us to believe her&#8230;maybe she should try and put her big girl pants on.</p><p>That show was a far cry from reality&#8230;though it fit the bill for entertainment&#8230;fake or real. It makes me laugh to see how many people believe any of this&#8230;I thank you RS for making us see the truth. Although I have to say that for the first time this season I have to disagree with you&#8230;Sorry, but Rozlyn is lying. Maybe just by not telling the whole truth, but in reality, omitting the truth is still lying. She&#8217;s hiding something&#8230;I would live to know what.</p><p>Oh yeah. The &#8220;never named&#8221; producer came to visit her WITH his father!?! And she didn&#8217;t have ANY type of &#8220;inappropriate relationship&#8221; with him at all! C&#8217;mon Rozlyn! Give me a break!! You probably nuzzled his neck, gave him a hard on, now he follows you around everywhere like some love struck schmuck and you are loving every disgusting minute of it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: MindyM</title><link>http://realitysteve.com/2010/02/23/the-bachelor-recap-22210-the-women-all-lie/comment-page-3/#comment-31877</link> <dc:creator>MindyM</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 03:44:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://realitysteve.com/?p=456#comment-31877</guid> <description>I agree with others here who have said that the truth lies somewhere in between.  I do think that Rozlyn is a young woman who is willing to use her looks to get what she wants from men.  She obviously realized fairly early on that this producer was infatuated with her.  Maybe she thought that this could be used to her advantage.  She probably thinks that flirting and fooling around isn&#039;t that big a deal.  Also, I would think the producer would know where all the cameras are and when they are on.  That may well be the reason why there is no film footage of anything going on between them.When they escorted Rozlyn to the stage with this beefy bodyguard, it presented a powerful visual to the viewing audience.  They had this guy with her to make sure that she didn&#039;t have any contact with the other women and couldn&#039;t hear what was being said on stage.  It certainly made her look like some kind of criminal.  She was basically walking into a trap.  Once Chris got her on the record denying any inappropriate behavior of any kind, that&#039;s all they needed.  I don&#039;t know that Rozlyn could have done anything else.  If she answered his direct question ambiguously, then the viewing audience would conclude that she had something to hide.I thought Rozlyn&#039;s best moment was when she asked Chris Harrison directly for specific instances of misconduct.  Then all Chris had to do was wave his hand like an orchestra conductor and call on each of the women to give their pre-planned accusations.  Rozlyn really had no chance.  She might have responded differently to the women, kind of saying that she understood that they were just doing what they were told and she felt sorry for them.  That would have been better than the stammering and defensive words she blurted out.  But it was a total no-win situation.  I thought Rozlyn&#039;s worst moment was when she brought up that nonsense about Chris supposedly flirting with this producer&#039;s wife in New Zealand.  First, it had precisely nothing to do with the issue at hand.  Second, it made Rozlyn look petty, mean-spirited and vindictive.  That&#039;s why they aired it.  I am surprised that anyone would think that they wouldn&#039;t air it.  It only served to make Rozlyn look even worse than she already did.As far as the other women, I thought Valishia was the most interesting to watch.  You can tell a lot from someone&#039;s demeanor.  She clearly was feeling a great deal of stress and didn&#039;t seem comfortable going after Rozlyn.  She even told Rozlyn that she knew that she liked her.  Then she blurted out this bizarre story of being sick and Rozlyn not being in their room that night.  So what&#039;s the big deal with that?  Also, if you are sick, then why would you get out of bed to go looking for your roommate?  All she said was that she couldn&#039;t find Rozlyn. Not particularly damning, if you ask me.  I am not surprised to learn that she apologized to Rozlyn afterwards.  As far as Terry, well, I feel that she her statements do line up.  A slight correction doesn&#039;t mean that she was lying.  Ella&#039;s detailed description of the four legged position Rozlyn was in seemed to be meant to inflame the viewing audience.  Was she saying that Rozlyn was in that position with the producer guy underneath her?  I don&#039;t get it.  Who cares if she had her chest down and her butt up in the air with her panties on.  Oooh!  Shocking!All I can say is, if that&#039;s the best ABC can do when it comes to firsthand evidence, then they are in big trouble.  I don&#039;t think Rozlyn was intimate with this guy, but I do think there was some hanky-panky going on between them.  Whether it rises to the level of a scandal and warranted all this attention, I have no idea.  It could well be that the women were told to either exaggerate what they saw or told to flat out lie.  At this point, I don&#039;t think I even care.  But I don&#039;t think Rozlyn is an innocent as she would like all of us to believe.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with others here who have said that the truth lies somewhere in between.  I do think that Rozlyn is a young woman who is willing to use her looks to get what she wants from men.  She obviously realized fairly early on that this producer was infatuated with her.  Maybe she thought that this could be used to her advantage.  She probably thinks that flirting and fooling around isn&#8217;t that big a deal.  Also, I would think the producer would know where all the cameras are and when they are on.  That may well be the reason why there is no film footage of anything going on between them.</p><p>When they escorted Rozlyn to the stage with this beefy bodyguard, it presented a powerful visual to the viewing audience.  They had this guy with her to make sure that she didn&#8217;t have any contact with the other women and couldn&#8217;t hear what was being said on stage.  It certainly made her look like some kind of criminal.  She was basically walking into a trap.  Once Chris got her on the record denying any inappropriate behavior of any kind, that&#8217;s all they needed.  I don&#8217;t know that Rozlyn could have done anything else.  If she answered his direct question ambiguously, then the viewing audience would conclude that she had something to hide.</p><p>I thought Rozlyn&#8217;s best moment was when she asked Chris Harrison directly for specific instances of misconduct.  Then all Chris had to do was wave his hand like an orchestra conductor and call on each of the women to give their pre-planned accusations.  Rozlyn really had no chance.  She might have responded differently to the women, kind of saying that she understood that they were just doing what they were told and she felt sorry for them.  That would have been better than the stammering and defensive words she blurted out.  But it was a total no-win situation.  I thought Rozlyn&#8217;s worst moment was when she brought up that nonsense about Chris supposedly flirting with this producer&#8217;s wife in New Zealand.  First, it had precisely nothing to do with the issue at hand.  Second, it made Rozlyn look petty, mean-spirited and vindictive.  That&#8217;s why they aired it.  I am surprised that anyone would think that they wouldn&#8217;t air it.  It only served to make Rozlyn look even worse than she already did.</p><p>As far as the other women, I thought Valishia was the most interesting to watch.  You can tell a lot from someone&#8217;s demeanor.  She clearly was feeling a great deal of stress and didn&#8217;t seem comfortable going after Rozlyn.  She even told Rozlyn that she knew that she liked her.  Then she blurted out this bizarre story of being sick and Rozlyn not being in their room that night.  So what&#8217;s the big deal with that?  Also, if you are sick, then why would you get out of bed to go looking for your roommate?  All she said was that she couldn&#8217;t find Rozlyn. Not particularly damning, if you ask me.  I am not surprised to learn that she apologized to Rozlyn afterwards.  As far as Terry, well, I feel that she her statements do line up.  A slight correction doesn&#8217;t mean that she was lying.  Ella&#8217;s detailed description of the four legged position Rozlyn was in seemed to be meant to inflame the viewing audience.  Was she saying that Rozlyn was in that position with the producer guy underneath her?  I don&#8217;t get it.  Who cares if she had her chest down and her butt up in the air with her panties on.  Oooh!  Shocking!</p><p>All I can say is, if that&#8217;s the best ABC can do when it comes to firsthand evidence, then they are in big trouble.  I don&#8217;t think Rozlyn was intimate with this guy, but I do think there was some hanky-panky going on between them.  Whether it rises to the level of a scandal and warranted all this attention, I have no idea.  It could well be that the women were told to either exaggerate what they saw or told to flat out lie.  At this point, I don&#8217;t think I even care.  But I don&#8217;t think Rozlyn is an innocent as she would like all of us to believe.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Phei</title><link>http://realitysteve.com/2010/02/23/the-bachelor-recap-22210-the-women-all-lie/comment-page-3/#comment-31870</link> <dc:creator>Phei</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 01:45:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
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&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-31860&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;beachbumz &lt;/a&gt; :&lt;/strong&gt;OK, so… There is no proof in either direction, this whole thing is he said/she said, right? But here’s what we have- Producer is fired, then goes on to admit there was a sexual relationship with Rozlyn. AND gets separated from his wife because of it. Sounds like he loses a lot. Jessie saw them making out. Several others saw them cuddling. So ALL these people are lying? What in the world do ANY of them have to gain from telling such fabrications? Rozlyn on the other hand has motivation to lie- to (try to) save face. Yet she’s the one you believe, Steve? I still haven’t read one good reason to believe her over everyone else associated with the show. I think someone has a thing for her, hmmm?&lt;/blockquote&gt;Producer was fired for sending a card to Roz&#039;s son, Producer separated from his wife 9 months PRIOR to even meeting Rozlyn, Producer admits (still have not heard ANYTHING from his mouth yet only Chris&#039;s) that he had a relationship with Roz in order to get his severance package.Yes, I did my research and his wife&#039;s twitter prooves it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote
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href="#comment-31860" rel="nofollow">beachbumz </a> :</strong>OK, so… There is no proof in either direction, this whole thing is he said/she said, right? But here’s what we have- Producer is fired, then goes on to admit there was a sexual relationship with Rozlyn. AND gets separated from his wife because of it. Sounds like he loses a lot. Jessie saw them making out. Several others saw them cuddling. So ALL these people are lying? What in the world do ANY of them have to gain from telling such fabrications? Rozlyn on the other hand has motivation to lie- to (try to) save face. Yet she’s the one you believe, Steve? I still haven’t read one good reason to believe her over everyone else associated with the show. I think someone has a thing for her, hmmm?</p></blockquote><p>Producer was fired for sending a card to Roz&#8217;s son, Producer separated from his wife 9 months PRIOR to even meeting Rozlyn, Producer admits (still have not heard ANYTHING from his mouth yet only Chris&#8217;s) that he had a relationship with Roz in order to get his severance package.</p><p>Yes, I did my research and his wife&#8217;s twitter prooves it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: beachbumz</title><link>http://realitysteve.com/2010/02/23/the-bachelor-recap-22210-the-women-all-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-31860</link> <dc:creator>beachbumz</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 00:00:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://realitysteve.com/?p=456#comment-31860</guid> <description>OK, so... There is no proof in either direction, this whole thing is he said/she said, right?  But here&#039;s what we have- Producer is fired, then goes on to admit there was a sexual relationship with Rozlyn.  AND gets separated from his wife because of it.  Sounds like he loses a lot.  Jessie saw them making out.  Several others saw them cuddling.  So ALL these people are lying?  What in the world do ANY of them have to gain from telling such fabrications?  Rozlyn on the other hand has motivation to lie- to (try to) save face.  Yet she&#039;s the one you believe, Steve?  I still haven&#039;t read one good reason to believe her over everyone else associated with the show.  I think someone has a thing for her, hmmm?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, so&#8230; There is no proof in either direction, this whole thing is he said/she said, right?  But here&#8217;s what we have- Producer is fired, then goes on to admit there was a sexual relationship with Rozlyn.  AND gets separated from his wife because of it.  Sounds like he loses a lot.  Jessie saw them making out.  Several others saw them cuddling.  So ALL these people are lying?  What in the world do ANY of them have to gain from telling such fabrications?  Rozlyn on the other hand has motivation to lie- to (try to) save face.  Yet she&#8217;s the one you believe, Steve?  I still haven&#8217;t read one good reason to believe her over everyone else associated with the show.  I think someone has a thing for her, hmmm?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jawbreaker</title><link>http://realitysteve.com/2010/02/23/the-bachelor-recap-22210-the-women-all-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-31856</link> <dc:creator>jawbreaker</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 23:42:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://realitysteve.com/?p=456#comment-31856</guid> <description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://photobucket.com/images/thanks%20for%20the%20comments&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;[IMG]http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x66/sydianne/rose.jpg[/IMG]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a
href="http://photobucket.com/images/thanks%20for%20the%20comments" rel="nofollow"></a></p><p>[IMG]http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x66/sydianne/rose.jpg[/IMG]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: dyrochka</title><link>http://realitysteve.com/2010/02/23/the-bachelor-recap-22210-the-women-all-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-31853</link> <dc:creator>dyrochka</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 23:11:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://realitysteve.com/?p=456#comment-31853</guid> <description>The Bachelor needed another villain. (Look how successful Wes’s storyline was)  Roz never liked/cared for Jake but wanted the exposure. (She is stunning but smthng in her eyes is cold and calculating.)  She never bothered to obtain a release from her ex-husband, as she knew she will not be on the show for long.  I believe this was/is a well played “scandal” and all parties were well compensated whether financially or air time or both (including Roz).  The stories about who saw what and where and Roz’s “I am innocent” bit – fluff.  People are still talking and magazines are selling.  Simple.  Well done Mr. Fleiss!
Chris H. – stop raiding Flava Flave’s time piece collection!!!
RS – love the column but surprised you bought Ali’s “I am sorry”.  Predictable and (for me) fell short of believable.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bachelor needed another villain. (Look how successful Wes’s storyline was)  Roz never liked/cared for Jake but wanted the exposure. (She is stunning but smthng in her eyes is cold and calculating.)  She never bothered to obtain a release from her ex-husband, as she knew she will not be on the show for long.  I believe this was/is a well played “scandal” and all parties were well compensated whether financially or air time or both (including Roz).  The stories about who saw what and where and Roz’s “I am innocent” bit – fluff.  People are still talking and magazines are selling.  Simple.  Well done Mr. Fleiss!<br
/> Chris H. – stop raiding Flava Flave’s time piece collection!!!<br
/> RS – love the column but surprised you bought Ali’s “I am sorry”.  Predictable and (for me) fell short of believable.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: summer</title><link>http://realitysteve.com/2010/02/23/the-bachelor-recap-22210-the-women-all-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-31851</link> <dc:creator>summer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:49:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://realitysteve.com/?p=456#comment-31851</guid> <description>Wow..reality truly is more interesting than reality shows! The key word in this controversy is &quot;inappropriate&quot; behavior. This may not necessarily mean sexual. I agree that there is a definite cover-up of some truths we would all like to know about Roz and this Callahan guy. By the way, how does one find his picture? What show would have information leaked to Roz that was so damaging and serious that they would have to let her go and ridicule her? Then use it to exploit her to create another evil character? Sounds like a reality show to me!I agree that Roz did not come across to me as a woman who was desperately horney or lonely. She does seem to be the type who needs to be &quot;seen&quot; and known, no matter what the consequences are. I thought she appeared strong and confident.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow..reality truly is more interesting than reality shows! The key word in this controversy is &#8220;inappropriate&#8221; behavior. This may not necessarily mean sexual. I agree that there is a definite cover-up of some truths we would all like to know about Roz and this Callahan guy. By the way, how does one find his picture? What show would have information leaked to Roz that was so damaging and serious that they would have to let her go and ridicule her? Then use it to exploit her to create another evil character? Sounds like a reality show to me!I agree that Roz did not come across to me as a woman who was desperately horney or lonely. She does seem to be the type who needs to be &#8220;seen&#8221; and known, no matter what the consequences are. I thought she appeared strong and confident.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: More ‘Bachelor’ Controversy: Who’s Lying? &#124; Gossip Girl Blog</title><link>http://realitysteve.com/2010/02/23/the-bachelor-recap-22210-the-women-all-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-31850</link> <dc:creator>More ‘Bachelor’ Controversy: Who’s Lying? &#124; Gossip Girl Blog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:42:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://realitysteve.com/?p=456#comment-31850</guid> <description>[...] goss from The Bachelor, and our Controversy of The Day: According to astute blogger Reality Steve, many of the women who slimed Rozlyn Papa during the Women Tell All episode were goaded into lying [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] goss from The Bachelor, and our Controversy of The Day: According to astute blogger Reality Steve, many of the women who slimed Rozlyn Papa during the Women Tell All episode were goaded into lying [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: babyfat101</title><link>http://realitysteve.com/2010/02/23/the-bachelor-recap-22210-the-women-all-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-31849</link> <dc:creator>babyfat101</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:23:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://realitysteve.com/?p=456#comment-31849</guid> <description>@Neeley1123 - i&#039;m another one that agrees with you.  been watching since the football guy or firestone season, can&#039;t remember.  i keep reading, wanting/hoping for that irreverent funny guy to show up, but instead i keep getting the guy who wants to be wes&#039; buddy, and who organizes vegas trips.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Neeley1123 &#8211; i&#8217;m another one that agrees with you.  been watching since the football guy or firestone season, can&#8217;t remember.  i keep reading, wanting/hoping for that irreverent funny guy to show up, but instead i keep getting the guy who wants to be wes&#8217; buddy, and who organizes vegas trips.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: jeffsaysno</title><link>http://realitysteve.com/2010/02/23/the-bachelor-recap-22210-the-women-all-lie/comment-page-2/#comment-31848</link> <dc:creator>jeffsaysno</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 22:18:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://realitysteve.com/?p=456#comment-31848</guid> <description>nobody, you are truly a nobody. Did you even read his column? His work might be biased, but his evidence is not.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nobody, you are truly a nobody. Did you even read his column? His work might be biased, but his evidence is not.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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