The “Bachelorette” Finale Recap – 8/1/11 Including News & Info Regarding the Season, “Bachelor Pad” Thoughts, & “Reader Emails”

August 2nd, 2011 | 39 Comments | Posted in Reader Emails, The Bachelorette 7 - Ashley

Now lets get to last night’s episode, but more in particular, just my thoughts on everything. Since the finale is not a regular column where I dissect the whole thing, if you want to know my thoughts on different parts of the episode, you should’ve followed along on Twitter last night. Definitely had some takes on Ashley’s sister, the temperature in Fiji being 4,000 degrees, Ashley rubbing mud on her boob, you know, stuff like that. But in general, lets just talk about a few things regarding the ending and the season as a whole.

I really don’t need to sit and gloat over all the spoilers that have been right. Sure, it would’ve been nice if more people would’ve believed me back on June 1st, but after last season, I get where the skepticism would come in to play. However, this season, I was well aware that I was right from the get-go. I didn’t need any confirmation from the ATFR taping to assure me I was right. I was absolutely 100% confident what I printed in June I knew to be true. I was debating on whether or not to tell you why I was so confident, but, I decided against it just because I need to keep certain things protected. I had A LOT of intel regarding Ashley and JP being together. But if you must know piece, it’s that I was well aware of Ashley and JP being seen together once the show ended. However, even if I would’ve told you that during the season, the reaction would’ve been, “Yeah, but you told us Brad was with Chantal over Thanksgiving last season, so how do you know this is true?” Exactly. That’s why I didn’t say anything. I just knew come August 1st I’d be right.

So once I knew about them seeing each other outside the show, well, it’s obvious she wasn’t with Ben. That’s why I don’t pay attention to edits on the show, and how they’re making certain people look in talking about who the lead is with. The show was done filming on May 12th. Why would I care what they’re showing me during the season in regards to who it looks like she picked? That has no bearing on anything. Or what Ashley says in post filming interviews to try and not tip her hand? None of that matters in the least bit. If I find out who the lead is with after the show is done filming, then I know the ending. I seriously doubt I’ll EVER find out exactly what happens during the final rose ceremony. That’s a tightly guarded set that ABC goes to great lengths to make sure no one outside of production sees what’s happening. So I’ve pretty much given up using that route as a way to find out who’s picked. However, what happens AFTER the show is done filming is all the confirmation I need. Once I was tipped off those two were seeing each other, there’s nothing left to figure out. I didn’t care to look for details of what happened at the final rose ceremony because I didn’t need them. All I needed to know was who she picked and I got it back towards the end of May, and I posted it June 1st.

“But Steve, what if the people who told you that were ABC plants purposely giving you wrong information that Ashley and JP were seen together since filming ended.” They weren’t. They were completely neutral people who had no reason to lie to me, they had no agenda whatsoever, and I had every reason to trust them. And whaddya’ know? They were right. Sure, I know plenty of more details regarding what’s been going on the last few months while the show’s been airing, but I think I’ve said enough. You get the point. I knew Ashley was with JP not because someone told me she picked him during the final rose ceremony, but because I knew they’d been together since the show ended. So ABC can interrogate all the people they want trying to figure out who tells me stuff, but that’s just an effort in futility. Total waste of time. You can’t interrogate who you don’t know. Get my point?

As for all the tabloid stories that came out about JP wanting his ex back, and JP already dumping her, and JP having a wandering eye, blah blah blah. Total nonsense. Yes, there are some things that the tabloids report that are true, but it’s very minimal. None of that JP stuff was ever true, it was laughable, and completely ridiculous they’d run with stuff like that. I especially liked the story about how JP was checking out some girl’s ass at the gym, so that must mean he was cheating on Ashley. Oh, ok. Great investigative journalism there. I understand the tabloids need to make money somehow, and putting a sensationalized headline on their magazine will definitely get more people interested than not, but you’d think there’s gotta be a line drawn somewhere, right? Guess not. Anyway, they’re happy, they’re engaged, and now they can download “Can’t Fight This Feeling Anymore” on their Itouch and run it on a continuous loop. Or download this video to their Ipad. Gotta love the lead singers perm mullet in this video. The best.

So where does that leave JP and Ashley moving forward and what do I think of them as a couple? As I mentioned in the interview I linked to, I don’t wish ill will on any of these couples. It’s not like I’m hoping they break up or something. I’m just not surprised if/when they do. I think Ashley and JP however have a better chance to succeed than others for the fact that they are both geographically desirable. It’s not like Ashley has to have this major uprooting of her life to make this relationship work. They’re both east coast people, she doesn’t have to move far, she’s in a line of work that allows her to find a job wherever, and it’s not like she’s got anything holding her back from making the move. Does it mean absolutely 100% it’ll work? Of course not. I’m just saying I think they’ve got a better chance than probably most previous couples. Time will tell. And of course, I have a standing offer to any lead from this show that marries the final person they choose. If Ashley and JP get married, I will buy them a wedding gift. I’ve only had to do it once so far, even though I fully expect I’ll be buying Ali and Roberto’s soon once everything with their wedding gets finalized and they announce the day. I’ve got no problem with that. It’s the least I can do for these couples after having fun at their expense for the last 11 weeks. Maybe I’ll buy Ashley and JP an “REO Speedwagon’s Greatest Hits” CD. Or a coupon book to Sprinkles Cupcakes in New York.

Whatever the case, good luck to both of them and I wish them the best. My time with them is done. On to making fun of “Bachelor Pad” people.

39 thoughts on “The “Bachelorette” Finale Recap – 8/1/11 Including News & Info Regarding the Season, “Bachelor Pad” Thoughts, & “Reader Emails”

  1. I applaud Ben for being the 1st to genuinely respond to rejection. If they edit him the right way he may make a good Bachelor, I’d pick him over Ryan or ConstantSleep. Ryan seems just way too happy/fake ala Jake and Const just seems so boring and uneventful.

    After the Final Rose was unusually boring. It seemed like Chris was uncomfortable with all the making out. Those two seemed like they wanted to eat other right then and there.

  2. Here’s my final opinion on Ashley and this show. JP seems like a nice enough guy and tbh I thought with the exception of Mask and William they all seemed like decent guys. And maybe Masky Jeff was a decent guy but he started off weird and I felt the guy was difficult on the eyes…no offense to anyone who disagrees. But I digress. I had completely forgot about Ashley’s hometown visit on Brad’s show so I forgot, or more than likely didn’t pay attention to the fact, that she had a step father. So before this most recent hometown visit to her family, I was under the impression that Ashley, being so needy, in reality needed a daddy. Now I’m not Dr. Phil or Dr. Ruth nor am I even Dr. Demento, though some may think so, but I always felt this. And with the taking of JP over Ben, it sealed my opinion. I think it was on Kimmel later in the night or maybe while they were both sitting with Chris Harrison, that Ashley was asked why she loved JP. Her answer was he is there for me. Now that’s always nice to hear if one is going to get engaged, but that’s not IMO the first thing that should pop into one’s head. I would think I’d be talking about HIM and HIS characteristics, not that he’s there for her. But as we’ve seen Ashley is so very needy that this probably would appeal to her. And seeing as how there is such a huge age difference (yes it’s a big one when they are that age), I suspect that JP will be like a daddy to Ashley. It may work, it may not. Quite frankly (tm Rhett Butler)my dear, I don’t give a d#@*.

    So inasmuch as I did think it was the best group of guys…I just can’t see any of them with Ashley.

    As for the Bachelor’s next season if you go to ABC.com you will see that as of yesterday (I haven’t checked today), Ben was the man of choice.

    Ames (please don’t throw stones because it’s a matter of taste) was my least favorite next to Jeff and William. I don’t find Ames attractive in the least in any department, including personality and dress style. I mean red pants??? Bright blue shorts sticking out of his jeans that were falling down his derrier??? Not for me. I just would definitely not watch if he were selected, because I just get the willies watching him. I couldn’t even believe he made it to #4. And I’m not surprised to hear Steve say he and Jackie are not a couple anymore. I seriously thought she had swallowed something mind controlling for a while. So please. Not Ames. I’d rather it be Ryan, even though I wouldn’t want Ryan either. But at least I’d watch if for nothing else than the humor. But Ames…no can do.

    My first choice is Ben. Second Constantine. Third…anyone but Jeff and Ames and William.

  3. I have to say that the finale changed my mind about Ben. He has been growing on me the last few episodes, but I thought he would be too boring as the next bachelor. I thought the same about Ames, but Ames’ reaction to rejection made me sympathize for him and kind of route for him as the next bachelor. But after the finale, I realized that Ben actually can be quite funny (it was already obvious that he- like Ames- is a really nice guy) and his new hair cut makes him much better-looking. I also liked that even though he’s a nice guy, he still is a man who can stand up for himself, which was evident in his reaction to Ashley’s rejection. I think Ben would make the best bachelor, then Ames. I just can’t see Ryan as the next bachelor.

    As far as the sunglasses comment in the e-mails, I noticed that several seasons ago. You NEVER see any of the contestants wearing sunglasses, and they are always squinting on sunny dates. Even when the lead is driving on a sunny day, they aren’t wearing sunglasses. It’s obvious that they aren’t allowed to wear sunglasses so the viewers can see their reactions to each other.

  4. I agree about Ben… I’ve always liked him but thought his personality on screen would not sustain an entire Bachelor series. I’ve changed my mind, though.

    Also, Ames could be the next Bachelor, based on the reaction from the crowd at the MTA show. I’m not into Constantine at all, so am not sure I’d watch him as Bachelor.

  5. I am inclined to agree with the previous posters. Ben really grew on me too and if they give him a decent haircut, I think he could make a great bachelor! Great sense of humor and very in touch with his emotions!
    Ames, no way! He is obviously very nice and intelligent, but in other ways he seems to be on another planet…
    I liked Ryan on the first couple episodes, but I don’t think there is anything “underneath” the slick exterior, kinda like Jake on his first few episodes with Jillian.
    I think JP and Ashley have a better chance at lasting too, like Steve said, but as usual with this show, I won’t be holding my breath.

  6. Strangely, I’m rooting for Ashley and JP to make it as a couple. This is unusual for me to do. The way I look at this show, it’s a very contrived thing overall. But the people are real people, and when the cameras are off and they are suddenly in the more “real” world (plus tabloids) they then can see if there is really anything there between them. For most of these couples, it turns out that there’s not enough to sustain a real relationship. For some reason I’m hoping that these two do make it. But as Steve says, if they don’t make it I won’t be surprised.

  7. The MTA was the most boring 2 hours ever!! I was expecting them to have Constantine on the hot seat and ask him for more on why he elminated himself. I am sure there was not more to say than what he told Ashley but still…..and also why they did not ask Ryan about coming back. Just a side note…Tim wore jeans too so he an Ames were the just rolled out of bed and put on whatever was on their floor from the night before.
    I think Ashley’s sister still dose not like JP her ATFR rose moment on stage seemed a little forced. Oh well, Ashley and JP seem like they are very in love, I have watched every season of the Bachelor and Bachelorette (well not Brian’s season) and I have not seen any of the other couples as in love as they are…..I wish them the best. I loved Ben’s reaction when Ashley dumped him!! It was a side of Ben that I was not expecting he seemed all sweet and funny all season I really liked him and then when he was dumped you see a true side of him and he was even still upset 6 weeks later!!! I would say he and Britt are not serious or he would have said “I have moved on and I am happy” I would like to see him as the next Bachelor

  8. I know that Ames has turned into a fan favorite and the housefraus are freaking about him. But can we REALLY picture him as the Bachelor? Really?

    He is a nice guy, but he is so freaking awkward and just looks so dumb 99.9% of the time, it would be a hot mess.

    Go find a nice, hot Latino man to get the first minority Bachelor on there….

  9. Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t RS state already that Ames is dating someone (Jackie?) he met on BP2? So…he can’t be the next bachelor.

    Why is everyone hung up about the age difference between JP and Ashley? It’s not that many years is it?

    <3 to all.

  10. I KNEW IT!!! The first words in your column had to be about how great you were for finally getting it right. Steve you really must have a low opinion of yourself if you have to constantly tell your readers how wonderful you are.

  11. OMG!! Ben was such an immature guy. He and Ashley were like little kids together. Their stupid dog voices made me want to puke. As for Constanbore, he was not there for finding love; he was there for the free vacations. I never could see what Ashley saw in him or Ben, for that matter. The next Bachelors? NO WAY!!!!!
    The only guys on the show that were cool were JP, Ryan, and Nick. I think Ryan deserves to be the next Bachelor after Constancreep screwed him over by accepting roses when he clearly was not into Ashley. Ryan truly loved Ashley. I could see it in his eyes when he looked at her. It was heartbreaking to see him dumped… twice.
    As for Nick, I think ABC must have edited out too much of their time together. Nick was crushed when he did not advance. He was the first (I believe) to say that he loved Ashley. I liked the way that Nick called Willy on the carpet over the roast. What was that guy thinking????
    I am glad that Ashley chose JP. I think they have a much more mature relationship. JP brings out the best in Ashley. She needs someone to love her unconditionally after seeing her b#*@& sister in action. Talk about someone being a buzz-kill. I think that ALL of Ashley’s insecurities come from a sister who sprouts snakes from her hair. Ashley & JP, stay FAR away from that B#*@&. <3 Tess

  12. Another season in the can, eh folks? I do hope that these two make it. Agree they seem more genuine than most of these couples. With alot of them, it usually seems that one is more into it than the other, but Ashley and JP appear to be on the same page (and cant keep their hands off each other obviously). Glad its not a repeat of Brad and Emily.

    Tessswan LOL!! I just kept thinking that tatted up sister was out for some huge ass attention for herself last night, and could not give two craps about what Ashley felt. Honestly, I think she just wanted to stand out and get people talking about her negative reactions. Sure makes me understand some of the insecurities Ashley always deals with. Good thing she didn`t listen to her.

    Although I think Ryan is being positioned as the next Bachelor, ABC could be definitely be swayed by Ames` sudden popularity. I just don`t see it being Ben. Though very much a nice guy, he doesn`t strike me as the right type for Bach.

  13. About the age difference, I think Ashley is 26 and J.P. is 34. At those ages, 8 years is not a huge difference. Now if she was 16 and he was 24, that would be a big difference. But they are adults now, and as somebody said — Brad was 38 during the Bachelor show (and perhaps Ashley was either 25 or 26). So I don’t see why that was not an issue to the sister.

  14. Everything that happened with the sister just led me to believe that she is incredibly jealous of her little sister Ashley. Not only is Ashley more conventionally attractive, she got to be on the Bachelor and then chosen as the Bachelorette! I don’t know the timeline of the sister’s divorce, but it may have coincided with these romantic opportunities for her little sister. Seemed to me like she was just beyond jealous and really bitter about her own situation. It was like she didn’t want to be happy for Ashley, and tried to disguise it as being protective. Could be way off base here, but that was just my impression.

    It’s probably hopeless but I really do think these two might make it for once! They have such a chemistry. I’ve enjoyed seeing their interviews on the talk shows these last few days. Although it was slightly obnoxious that Ashley called JP “Baby” about a hundred times in a row on Regis and Kelly yesterday. Anytime people call their significant other pet names like that, especially in public, it seems so forced to me.

    Thanks for another great season of recaps and spoilers, Steve!

  15. I agree, Daws. Extreme jealousy, and misunderstanding that because HER relationship didn’t work out, that NO ONE’s can. Bitchiness, too.

    I kinda love JP and Ash. If I was with him, I’d call him baby all the time, too! Ownership : )

    Steve, I hate it when you say, “I could talk about so and so…but I don’t need to”. I wish you would, that’s kinda why you have readers.

  16. I suppose I’m strange… but I think Ames is attractive, funny, and charming. I find his “oddness” to be cute. So obviously I would love to see him as the next Bachelor. But I could handle Ryan or Ben, too. Both seem to be great guys.

    And for the record, Brad was older than JP. He was like 37 or 38, right? I don’t think 34 and 27 is that big of a difference. Not sure why, but I’m rooting for them to make it. I think the fact that both of them have said they have no interest in a TV career and may not even have the wedding televised… says a lot about them.

  17. I really believe that passion is a very important element in a relationship and JP and Ashley have it in spades as did Ali & Roberto. Watching both couples, you can see the sparks. Ali admitted in a face to face (which is the only way I really believe anything said) reporter when asked how she knew it was him, replied “didn’t you see how often I kissed him each time we were together”? In the next sentence, she admitted his kisses were sensual! JP is the best in the kissing department and poor Ben needs lessons. His face forward smacks on her lips just left me wondering if he can summon up passion. Maybe the cameras and crew watching caused him to behave that way. Looked to me like JP didn’t care who saw his emotions evolve. He was into her early on and never waivered.

    I wish all the best for Ashley and JP. He is definitely more mature which is a good thing. My husband is 8 years older (their exact age difference) and thank God for that. He reins me in when necessary and that’s a good thing!

    As for Ames as bachelor…that poor doofus will be so played by the producers it will be cringe worthy. He is so socially inept. I feel so bad for him and now that Jackie is no longer interested in him, if she ever really was, he has a good chance of being bachelor. Producers will be salivating at how they can make him look even more foolish than he was this season. Same thought with Ryan. He is so eager and “honored” as he said to be Bachelor…producers will manipulate him something fearce ’cause he is easily a biger doofus than Ames. Both men will be boring to a point, but definitely loads of laughs with how both will behave (with the scripts they are given).

    I think the best bet for Bachelor is Ben…if he will do it. He is still a boy (didn’t see at lot of manly in him), but a nice person all the way around.

    As far as sexy, I still like Blake. Smerk and all, he is atrractive and articulate…not easy for most of these men to be that way. Mickey is also articulate. So we shall see who wants it most.

  18. I agree with Mommyof2. I wasn’t a fan of any of the guys on this season like I have been on previous bachelorette seasons, but when I saw the look of utter astonishment on Ames’s face it broke my heart and with Ben, well he did what I would have done, walked away and bravo for him for telling her not to sugar coat it, I literally said out loud, that’s not helping. I’m glad this season is over, I pretty much kept it as background noise as it was basically boring, especially when you don’t have someone you’re routing for.

    I liked Ames but every time I see him with his mouth open I think of Steve’s comment “Mouth breather” and it just makes me laugh, it’s like his teeth are just too big and he can’t close his mouth. I know Steve ragged him for his Polo attire but Tim wasn’t exactly dressed up either, he looked like he’d just walked in off the street.

    P.S. It was nice to see a 12 year old with wonderful grammar and writing skills who didn’t text type.

  19. Sunnyside – I wouldn’t mind Mickey being the Bachelor, either. I liked him. Too bad he didn’t stick around long enough to gain many fans. Because of that, I don’t think they’d choose him to be it.

  20. Question, what is up with Ashley and JP and the cupcake deal? I saw them being called ‘Team Cupcake’ on the Wetpaint site and then Steve mentioned getting them a coupon book to Sprinkles Cupcakes as a gift. Is it just because she was calling JP ‘Cupcake’ as a pet name on the show or something?

  21. JP told the story to Ashley on their first talk together the first night about how his new boss asked him why he didn’t bring doughnuts to work…like this is a standard practice. JP said okay, he’d bring cupcakes and then his boss put a toy on his desk that looked like a cupcake thingy and began calling JP cupcake. So basically JP doesn’t want to be reminded about his bosses referring to him as a cupcake.

    Yeh…probably Mickey didn’t get enough camera time to be offered Bachelor…too bad. He is pretty normal.

    Yes, Ames, poor boob can’t shut his mouth EVEH! It is so off putting to see his huge teeth and the inability to close the mouth. That constant goofy smile was annoying. I do think he is a decent person…just needs a good woman to shape him up a bit. His dress style is horrid…no matter where he comes from.

    On the other hand…JP in that black shirt and creamy colored pants at last date was beyond sexy. No wonder Ashley said she gets lost in JP! This guy could wear a gunny sack and look sexy and adorable. She is very very lucky and I hope she doesn’t screw this up with him. She is very needy and taking care/making her happy will be his full time job I fear! And if he can keep her away from her psycho sister, they might have a chance.

  22. You’re most welcome Sherry!

    I’m thinking a full season of Ryan’s histronics, prancing around, jumping up and down, saying “sush” “gosh” and all the other goofy stuff he comes up, will definitely push me over the edge. Maybe he is a nice guy…but his dorkiness is not appealing. He is not sexy or all that interesting…definitely has to be in control…won’t take no for an answer…will hound the ladies to death. Would it not be awesome if at the final rose ceremony, BOTH women refuse his offer of marriage. Now THAT would be good TV. Okay…so I am not a nice person…I admit it!

  23. ^^Ha!!!

    Can they please just make Graham the next Bachelor????? You KNOW all the ladies would like that!

  24. Oh, I’d LOVE Graham to be the next bachelor! Great idea! I’m looking forward to seeing him on Bachelor Pad more than anyone else. I hope he and Michelle win the money!

  25. Well I believe Graham has all the women he can handle in his real life (if these folks actually have real lives!) so probably wouldn’t want to do the grind of the show and look foolish when he fails to pick either of the two ladies. Although I’d rather see him “perform” than Ryan or Ames any day. Definitely eye candy whereas those two are totally not.

  26. so i’m wondering if ash & jp work out (i know still way premature) and ali & roberto work out… wouldn’t that actually mean that the bachelorette has a much higher success rate than the bachelor (3/7). If it is true that would be interesting physiologically… why if the female is the lead and the man is picked that it has a higher success rate.

  27. Yeah, I figured Graham probably wasn’t looking to get married. Nobody ever gets married from this show anyway, so they should just give us our eye candy.

  28. Sunnyside422!! “Bachelor” Ryan getting dumped by both ladies at the end!!!! too funny…..I wouldn’t say you are “not nice” just a little devil…….hysterical lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  29. hannah2 brings up an interesting point about the women picking better than the men.

    I have a better feeling about Ashley and JP working out then Ali and Roberto. Ashley and JP are still a very new couple, but there’s something about them that seems to fit. The fact that she’s open to moving to his area, accepting his religion, etc…I have no idea why Ashley’s sister brought up the age difference, he’s a totally appropriate age for her. That sister has some jealousy issues.

    I also find Ames unattractive, but I still think he’d be an interesting bachelor. Also agree that Ben has a better personality than was shown. They barely showed his sense of humor, and from the small clips of it we saw, he has a good one. JP was my top pick even before I read he was the winner from RS.

  30. I think Ashley’s sister just saw them being ‘not silly’ and assumed it was because he was too old?
    Just saw a story somewhere where Bentley’s ex is saying there was a small chance they’d get together before the Bachelorette but she’s totally changed her mind since then because she doesn’t know what to think. If you trust someone that little maybe you shouldn’t have involved a kid in the process?

  31. If ABC is interested in my vote for the next bachelor, I vote: START FRESH WITH SOMEONE NEW!!! These guys were the most blah group I’ve ever seen on this show and Ashley was not the best choice either (although I imagine she’s probably a nice person). If the keep using boring people, they will lose viewers. I barely watched most of this season. In fact, I played angry birds through almost every episode.
    If they want to pull from the franchise, I agree with the people saying Graham. He would be a good one.

  32. IMO, the reason that the Bachelorette works better than the Bachelor is because from a gender standpoint it makes more sense. Biologically men are programmed to chase women. It is far more natural for a group of men to chase after one woman than the other way around. Also, the women who go on this show as the lead are far more likely to be in it for the “right reasons” than male leads, who are more likely to do it for money, fame, and/or adventure.

  33. My .02 ;-)

    Ryan would be a bore but I do think he’s a decent/good person.

    Ames has class and seems very kind.

    Ben is a great guy but I think he would be very boring and he needs a big boy hair cut.

    I vote for a brand new bachelor.

    I agree with the comments that Constantine should have left sooner rather than later if he felt that way. And YES – Ashley’s sister is VERY jealous of her and has a spiteful nature. (she has a pretty face but the tats are SKANKY) I imagine that before it is all said and done JP will let her have it – I hope he does too.

    Wishing Ashley and JP a happy future!

  34. The people suggesting Graham…thinking with your loins. He is eye candy, and I suspect not serious about finding a wife.

  35. poddington- I agree with you that Graham is eye candy and probably not serious about finding a wife. But, since no Bachelor in the history of this show has EVER ended up marrying the woman he chose anyway, why not go for Graham? He’s hot.

  36. Though I am not a big fan of Jake, I do feel that your coverage of him is extremely biased. There was no mention on your end regarding how Wes cheated on Gia with Vienna (of all things!). Was this protecting your friend Wes? I was disappointed that you focused on bashing Jake and actually made me feel sorry for him. You seemed more upset that Justin lied to you then cheated on his girlfriend. I feel that Justin is much worse than Jake but you seem to give everyone else the benefit of the doubt. Based on the comments above and the cruelty of some of them, it shows the lack of class amongst your readers and I must be crazy to even post here. It’s too bad that you went downhill because I’ve enjoyed some of your comments but now it’s getting to the point of high school antics.

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