“Women Tell All” Spoilers

February 23rd, 2013 | 31 Comments | Posted in The Bachelor 17 - Sean

If you’ve watched most of this season (as I’m guessing most of you have), and you’ve followed any social media since the show has been airing, you’ll notice that plenty of Sean’s girls get along with each other. Almost all of them do. With the exception of Tierra and maybe Amanda, can you think of any of Sean’s girls that came across as aloof, mean, rude, bitchy, or unliked by others? There really wasn’t. Which pretty much meant if Tierra didn’t show up for the “Women Tell All” taping (which there were reports that she wasn’t going to), then this was going to be an awfully painful two hours to watch, because as good as this show is at manufacturing drama where there isn’t, I sure as hell would’ve liked to have seen them drum up some drama with a bunch of girls that all like each other. That would’ve been some of their best work to date if they were able to generate drama out of that.

So the 17 girls who were actually out on stage for the duration of the show were: Kristy, Taryn, Jackie, Kacie, Diana, Brooke, Ashley P (50 Shades girl), Daniella, Katie, Leslie H., Selma, Sarah, Robyn, Amanda, Desiree, AshLee, and Lesley M. Just like they did with Rozlyn years ago, and Courtney last season, Tierra was kept away from the rest of the group and sequestered, and only brought in when it was time to bring her up on the hot seat. She was kept away from everybody, brought up on the hot seat separately, then taken off stage and out of the building the second her segment was over. This is nothing new. So here are the basics about the taping:

-Obviously, the audience gets to see Monday’s episode first or else it wouldn’t make sense to them as to why AshLee’s there. In case you didn’t see ABC’s press release last week, they had already given away the fact that the girl who gets eliminated at the rose ceremony (AshLee), “…is so upset that she leaves without talking to him.” So needless to say, AshLee and Sean had to clear some things up at the taping.

-Sarah is brought up to the hot seat first and basically just talked about her experience on the show having been a fan favorite and, well, having one arm. Not much going on here.

-Tierra was brought out and took heat from essentially all the women. Of course, Tierra did what I figured she’d do which was go on the defensive not blaming anything on herself. The women attacked her and there was drama, as you would expect. Tierra did NOT come with her fiance, but was wearing her engagement ring and said she got engaged to a guy she’d been seeing on and off before the show, and the engagement happened in January.

-Desiree is also brought up on the hot seat to talk about her journey with Sean, and everything that went down with her brother at the hometown date. Apparently not much here either.

-AshLee comes up on the hot seat as well to talk about her relationship with Sean and how it seemed like she fell for him rather quickly. A couple of the women got on her for being so serious and falling so quickly, but I guess AshLee acknowledges she did fall in love, but is over Sean now. Once again, not much drama since she was well liked by others.

-Sean comes out and addresses the women and rehashes the relationships he had some of the women. He says that yes, Desiree’s brother did play a role in her departure, but that something was missing anyway from their relationship, and it seemed like she did have her guard up with him, as opposed to some of the others.

-Sean wants to address AshLee since he never got a chance to in Thailand, and basically tells her that the reason he let her go was because his feelings were stronger for the other two women. AshLee seemed to agree after watching the show back, she saw Sean’s chemistry with Catherine and Lindsay.

-As is the case every season, we are months removed from these women being on the show (3 months to be exact). So yeah, women like Desiree and AshLee who lasted the longest of the women who were there, have the more heartbreak to deal with, but they’re both over it. If you haven’t moved on in three months from a guy who’s engaged to someone else, you’ve got issues to deal with. So while Desiree and AshLee’s departures are the most fresh in the audiences mind, and people feel for them, they shouldn’t. This happened in November. Both girls seemed content with where they’re at and are over Sean.

-Basically there was zero drama after Tierra left. They showed bloopers like they always do at the end, then the video package of Catherine and Lindsay’s journey, with previews of the finale, and that was it.

So there you go. Not much in terms of drama, but I’m sure every promo for the next week will all center around the Tierra appearance. It has to. They essentially have nothing else to go off of since all the women want to take baths and giggle together.

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31 thoughts on ““Women Tell All” Spoilers

  1. I for one, liked Tierra well liked might be too kind, I Respect her for being herself and not being fake by pretending to like all the other girls. I like that she’s outspoken and the show would have been a complete bore without her. Clearly, she’s not everyone’s cup of tea, but I know I would have a problem being nice to girls who gang up on me and demand that I wear a smile 24/7, it’s just not REAL.

  2. “Keeping your guard up” never hurt Tessa Horst or Emily Maynard. The bottomline, if the Bachelor is really into you, and you reciprocate enough, he’s going to pick the woman he’s most attracted to; unless he’s a total insincere douchebag like Jake Pavelka.

  3. Adding on to what Ironside said, you know what irks me….masking the fact that you’re just not attracted to a girl by saying she didn’t let her guard down, or, she didn’t tell me she loved me. When Sean said that if only Leslie would’ve told him she loved him, he probably would’ve kept her. Are you kidding me? They went on a couple dates, she’s competing with however many other women, and she’s supposed to tell him she loves him in order to have a chance at staying? I find that preposterous. Now to hear again that part of why Des got sent home is because she didn’t let her guard down, that’s ridiculous. If I’m up again however many other women, and I have an inkling you’re saying all the same things to them, I’m going to be a bit reserved. That’s “reality”.

    I, like Steve, could care less who Sean’s with and it makes no difference to me who got sent home or who stayed. I just find it irritating as a viewer to hear the “L” word tossed around so nonchalantly and to know that someone got let go because she didn’t say it knowing full well he would not have said it back. Just call a spade a spade and say, Hey, I knew from day one I wasn’t going to end up with this girl or that girl, I can only let so many girls go per episode, so that’s the only reason she stayed.

  4. Gotta be the most boring Bachelor yet. Tierra made it exciting but couldn’t stand her. Haha I do not see a real connection with Catherine.. She must have put out on the over nights.. Cuz I don’t get it.. Hearing the “L” word should not have been prerequisite, especially when he won’t say it himself. Or can’t.. Another thing.. Was it me or did just about every girl who warned him about, complained about, or answered his direct question about Tierra get sent home almost that night??

  5. iheartvino – wasn’t sure where to reply to you, here or last post.

    Yea, Scandal is addictive but darn it, no one is redeemable on that show! Except maybe Huck. Poor guy, love him.

    You just made me realize I have the latest eps. to catch up on….must watch now. Because I agree w/ previous posters, this Bach was a snore and the W’ Tell All sounds snor-arific too.

  6. jessica- snor-arrific, ha.. like that one! cant believe its already the women tell all, and its on tues night? so the 3rd week of 2 consecutive nights? why does this season feel so rushed?

  7. ironside- completely agree.. he was boring even on ashleys season.. and then as the bachelor, zero personality.. even without knowing the spoilers it was painstakingly clear who he was going to choose.. at least theres a little more intrigue with this season..

  8. ^I loved Ben on Ashley’s season. But got a sinking feeling when he signed on to be The Bachelor, because I didn’t think he was ready for that. And lo and behold, he made a terrible Bachelor. Sigh.

    WTA is always my least favorite episode of the season. Hey, remember when episodes weren’t 2 hours long? Well, WTA ESPECIALLY doesn’t need to be 2 hours long. This one seems like it’ll be boring, though I didn’t really care about the spoilers for it anyway. I guess Tierra doesn’t actually talk to Sean then, just the women?

    Preview clip I saw on WetPaint made it seem like Catherine will not accept fantasy suite card (“I’m more traditional in relationships. I’ve thought a lot about the fantasy suite and I told myself I wouldn’t do it.”). Do you guys think she’ll follow that up with a “but I think it would be nice to have the extra time off-camera to spend together?” or that he’ll convince her not to be scared about it? Or that they don’t spend the night in the fantasy suite?

  9. I think it would have really hurt her chances if she declined the fantasy suite, so I’m going to guess that she accepted.

  10. Jessica, and now it’s my turn to thank YOU for the reminder about Scandal. I didn’t watch the newest one yet and will for sure today.

    Kasey, I think the WTA airs next Mon night, that’s what my tv listings show anyway. I don’t think there’s anything Bachelor-related on Tue night this week. (Thank goodness. 2 nights is too much in my opinion!)

  11. elizabeth- i did like the way that ben left ashley’s season, with his head held high, considering how embarrassed he must have been.. but other than that, i just didnt see anything special about him and understood why ashley chose jp rather than ben.. re the fantasy suite, i think catherine will accept the invitation, as well..

    iheart- thank goodness!

  12. “They essentially have nothing else to go off of since all the women want to take baths and giggle together.”

    Um, ABC missed a huge ratings opportunity here. Maybe they could put that on pay per view. I would watch.

  13. Steve usually has more detail for the WTA epis than this. Wonder what gives? Because if it is as boring as he made it sound, wow, I’ll feel like I wasted an hour or two.

  14. I thought Ben Flatdick and his lil hoCourtney would be the end of The Bachelor. It was just so boring and such a horrific couple of losers. But no, the show continues. I do agree that RS is partially responsible for keeping interest alive. You want to watch just to pull up this blog and see RS rip it apart the next day, especially pointing out bad edits, hilarious mistakes and outright lies. It’s so bad, it’s good! The Bachelor has much in common with The Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. Especially in that both are unintentionally funny…. and so “Amazing”. (Oops, I said amazing, I have to drink a shot of tequila!)

  15. After weeks of watching Sean kiss all the women, I can’t help but think that even though he’s a good looking guy, he’s a lousy kisser! And if he’s THAT bad of a kisser, he probably isn’t all that good in the bedroom either. Just an observation folks. Perhaps he should have taken Arie’s advice when he was giving Sean pointers on how to be more romantic and sexy while kissing the women. All-in-all, I can’t help but cringe in embarassment for Sean every time I see him kiss someone.

  16. Forgot to mention – I loved the cool overnight date Sean took AshLee on: The remote beach that you can only get to by swimming through a dark cave first…OMG, that was soooo awesome! I thought AshLee was acting ridiculous about how scared she was while swimming through it. It’s not as though they had to swim under water throughout parts of it or anything – sheesh, all they had to do was tread water and follow a path to the light at the end of the “tunnel”! lol. Anyway, I would have loved to go on that date!

  17. AshLee was pretty ridiculous alright. She’s about one second away from a total breakdown…. and that’s when she’s happy. One of the most unstable women ever on the show…. at least the most unstable that’s lasted this long. She HAD to be cut. Sean’s sympathy can only go so long. What’s he going to do, get down on one knee for her so she doesn’t slit her wrists? Imagine carrying the burden of having to keep sharp objects away from your wife so she doesn’t hurt herself while you’re at work. And having kids with her? That’s totally out of the question. She could be another Susan Smith.

  18. I’m still not seeing it with Katherine. I mean, if you want some hot Asian action, I’m down with it. But wife material? Not even close. You don’t marry someone because they have a goofy sense of humor. It’s a nice to have to feel comfortable around someone & entertained. But there has to be something a little deeper, right?….. or is Sean really that shallow?

  19. @rob – remember, we only see an edited version of their relationship. If they can 100% be themselves around each other and also have a deeper connection on top of that, I can absolutely see the attraction there. Just because we only see their ‘goofy’ times together, doesn’t mean they don’t actually connect on a deeper level than that.

  20. **The Following**
    Whoa, just when you were SURE they were going to finally get Joey back as well as take down the “Three Crazyteers”….nope. Ryan HAD to get out safely, of course, but how about that Megan? I was NOT expecting her to ever see the light of day again. I also thought that “Roderick” was the guy that took Claire, but he wasn’t. This “Roderick” is still our mystery man and clearly well connected and well funded as he manages to get everyone out of the farmhouse, still trying to take that all in and buy into it. I mean really, they get through and get by SWAT, the FBI and the locals. Of course there are “Followers” everywhere including on the local police force, the FBI, etc. Seriously, are they procreating themselves too? I love, love Ryan’s clever manipulations of the “boys”, getting into their heads, tirelessly teasing them, “you AREN’T gay?”. He needs to wear an electricity proof vest though, they always get him with the “shocker”/taser. I seriously loved when Ryan was able to send Megan flying through the front door into the FBI’s arms and, Jacob (I think it was Jacob) goes running after her only to have about 100 laser lights pointed at his chest, he shuts the door faster than Jennifer Lawerence can fall up the stairs. Another favorite moment, of mine, was Denise aka Emma escapes withOUT the “boys” and when they call her, looking for her, she doesn’t answer, Emma is ALL about Emma. Claire’s captor, Charlie, doesn’t make it (one down, six more pop up) but they are able to save Claire. That whole interaction seemed pointless to me but perhaps it served to educate Claire on how far reaching this “cult” really is.

  21. Rob22, are you not seeing it with Catherine because she is Asian? Because that is what your comment is implying, that because they are of different ethnicities, that there is no connection, but if he wanted Asian action, sure, why not? That is insulting. Also, I’m tired of seeing the comments that Catherine is goofy and silly, but not very deep. What does everyone mean by that? Do you not realize that the show only shows snippets of the conversation, mostly editing out the “deep” portions for what is entertaining? And she did speak about two incidents in her life that show she is not shallow, seeing her friend die at twelve and then her father trying to commit suicide when she was fourteen. What else does she have to do to convince to you that she is deep? To me, she seems to be somewhere in between the final three girls. There’s Ashlee, who seems to think that having your biological parents leave you trumps the fact that you had loving parents who adopted you at the age of 6, therefore everything in your life goes back to your abandonment issues, to Lindsay, who probably went through a difficult time with her father being gone due to the war, but honestly comes off as if there are balls sharper than she is. I mean, she sees some rinky-dink helicopter and says that’s the coolest helicopter she’s seen, when her dad has a brigade of helicopters due to his job.

  22. I have gone on and on about how Sean considers sucking the upper lip of the woman as kissing. He is beyond horrible! How could any woman even permit it? He never, ever tilts his head to the side. All he does is the nose to nose sucking. And I agree…he has to be horrible in bed with that technique! Makes me want to puke each time they show him doing the nose to nose pucker up and suck action while the poor woman’s lower lip hangs there unattended! Ugh.

    Sorry, but he is a total bore and not the brightest bulb either. I never saw anything attractive about him and less so when he opens his mouth to speak. Maybe giggly, silly, baby whiney woman are his attraction.

  23. Hey whoa, that didn’t get “moderated”!

    **Survivor**
    I was not surprised to see the “Hantz” come out, actually I was wondering how long it would take to get him started, one tribal apparently. He’s ticked that he wasn’t “in the know” and that they voted out his new bff. He’s so mad, he’s going to go all Russell Hantz on them, he wants to “play it dirtay, to the core” and “go out with a bang”.

    The “favs” lose the immunity challenge this week so they’re headed to tribal. In the meantime, Reynolds remembers that there is always a hidden immunity idol somewhere and off he goes. He doesn’t come back empty handed either but Laura detects a “bulge” in his pocket, :D ……sorry needed a moment. So anyway, she calls him out at tribal and he not only admits he has it, he pulls it out and announces that he is going to play it. Huh? Anyway, Ally gets sent home, nice job Gota (gota get a clue?) you’ve sent home one of the foursome and broken up a showmance in the making. I’m thinking we have much drama still to come and while it’s a yawn fest on the Bach, it’s way more entertaining on Survivor.

  24. Goosiegirl: are you telling me that you don’t know that “Asian Action” is on every guy’s bucket list? Well, consider yourself informed. To your other point, I don’t see how watching a friend crushed by a tree or having your Dad attempt suicide in front of you makes you a “deep” person. That stuff is baggage to deal with, not depth. I also don’t think the nose stud does a lot for that perception. Nor does her Valley Girl voice help. In addition, based on her Social Media posts (pre Bachelor) and the perception from her sisters, Catherine is a free spirit, party waiting to happen. Now, last night she/the producers tried to spin it that she’s really “traditional” despite everything else we’ve seen to the contrary. But, what should we believe? Everything we’ve seen up until now, or a one liner where Catherine tells us she’s “traditional”? That said, to your other points, AshLee is a friggin train wreck. Nothing more to say. Sean had to cut bait on that one. And while Lindsay, on paper, seems to be more aligned with Sean on worldview, family background, etc, there’s not a lot going on there. She’d make a friendly wife and mother & Sean could talk to her about the weather and those damned Godless liberals…. and not much else. So, I’m not saying that Catherine might not be the best choice of the three…. just that I don’t see where things line up for Catherine and Sean to be together beyond 60-90 days. That’s all.

  25. It is really hypocritical that you say that “Asian Action” is on every guy’s bucket list while talking about “damned Godless liberals”. And, as I said before, the “Asian Action” comment is insulting, not only to Asian women, but men as well. It is implying that Asian women are just sexual beings to be used, and that all men are shallow because they want to have sex with an Asian woman to get it checked off their bucket list. If you don’t understand that, it just shows how little depth you have.
    I am getting a little tired of the comments on “wife material.” Who is to say what “wife material” is? To me, Catherine is someone who has more “wife material” than the majority of the women on this show. She’s educated, holds a steady job, is independent and has gone through two events that most people would deem traumatic, and still seems to be a pretty positive person regardless. Yet you say she is not “wife material” and has no depth. What exactly is having depth then?

  26. Maybe after watching the show, AshLee will see how not hot it was for her to center every conversation and ITM around her childhood abandonment. Of course it affected her and shaped who she is, but she needs to move past it if she wants to attract a healthy guy. She seemed extremely intense.

    **Survivor, I am surprised little Hantz isn’t considering what a bad role model he is being for his children. He has previously talked about wanting to be a good christian role model. It’s too bad he is being so immature. Seems like a Hantz curse. Russel was never able to see how his actions would affect a final vote at the end. Brandon can’t see that either. End game matters, but not everyone is capable of figuring that out – including the insufferable Phillip and his pink undies. Cringe.

  27. @addicted – I think too, there MUST be a Hantz curse or at least some kind of hereditary personality flaw. Right? I’d also have to agree, Phillips pink panties need to go.

  28. I distinctly recall one of the final 3 in Byron’s season – I think her name might have been Charisse? – turning down the Fantasy Suite. As expected, she got the boot that episode. At the WTA, Byron explained that he didn’t care about losing the opportunity for physical intimacy (sure, bud), but that it was about losing the opportunity to stay up talking until 4:00 am (which is apparently what he and Mary did… in a closet no less. That musta been some good “talk.”). I think someone in Season 1 (which I didn’t watch) may have turned down Alex as well, but you really can’t blame her.

  29. rob22, Catherine’s nose stud is a lot better looking than Rachel’s (Dirtbag Ben and BP). Catherine’s isn’t as gaudy looking.

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