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Bachelorette Desiree Spoilers

“Reader Emails,” “Dr. Reality Steve,” Desiree’s Final Four, & Your Up-to-Date Information on What’s Happening

With that out of the way, lets get you caught up on all things Desiree. There’s a lot to get to since I haven’t written in two weeks, and I’ve been holding on to some stuff for 3-4 weeks. First let me introduce you to four more contestants appearing on Desiree’s season. These guys have been added to the Desiree’s Guys link at the top of the page, bringing the total to 19. That’s tied for the most I’ve ever announced before the cast bios were posted, tying it with Ashley’s season.

16. Mike Tenerelli: 30, Chicago, IL. Goes by “Mikey.” Owner of CrossFit Alpha Dog (FB page) in Lombard, IL. Used to work for his father’s Plumbing Company back in 09′. Is the last unidentified guy in the from the red team on the dodgeball date.


17. Dan Cox: Las Vegas, Nevada. Director of National Accounts, Bruvado Imports. Originally from Northern California.

LinkedIn – Dan Cox
Twitter – Bruvado Imports


18. Drew Kenney: Scottsdale, AZ. Marketing Coordinator for the Van Tuyl Auto group. He’s also a Ford model. B.S. in Business Administration from Arizona St. University 2011. He’s the one unidentified member of the blue dodgeball team. Dude, would it be asking too much to pull up your pants a little more in pic #4? Thanks pal. And in that 5th picture, you know it’s ok to have a burger once in a while, right? Plenty more pictures on Google of him. Have at it.

Twitter – Drew Kenney
LinkedIn – Drew Kenney


19. Will Smith: He’s from Chicago, he’s of African-American descent, and I believe he’s employed by Chase Bank. I don’t have any pictures of him yet since I really haven’t looked. He doesn’t make it very far anyway, so unfortunately, he’s not all that important to me. And yes, because of his name, the guys in the house referred to him as the “Fresh Prince.”

As I tweeted yesterday, there is some drama on the first night that happens regarding one of Desiree’s guys. So apparently, one of the guys who shows up used to date Desiree’s roommate. Once Desiree sees the guy, she realizes he looks familiar and keeps asking him if he remembers her. He doesn’t. So all night Desiree is telling this guy she knows him, he used to date/hook up with her roommate, and this guy is completely clueless and says he doesn’t remember Desiree at all. Probably not a good thing to tell her that since this dude doesn’t get a rose at the first ceremony and his sent home. And this guy is not one of the 19 guys already accounted for, so I guess I now have 20 of Desiree’s 25 guys. And of the 5 guys I don’t know about yet, none of them last past the second episode, so needless to say, I’m not in a rush to find out who they are. If they’re not a big deal to this season, they’re not a big deal to me. As for the guy who doesn’t remember Desiree even though he dated her roommate, man, that sucks. I think it’s safe to say if I ran into any of my ex’s former roommates, maybe I wouldn’t necessarily remember each of their names, but I certainly would acknowledge the fact I’ve met them before. This guy did neither. I think that’ll be hilarious watching this play out. Apparently Desiree isn’t as big of a deal as she thinks she is ha ha.

A couple other quick notes from night one:

-Diogo and Dr. Larry are both eliminated on the first night. Hey, sounds like it could be a sitcom. “All new next week on ‘Diogo and Dr. Larry,’ the guys try and crack the case of the missing boyfriend whose ex has been murdered.”

-Remember when Desiree exited the limo on Sean’s season and took him over to the fountain behind them so they could throw a coin in and make a wish? One of her guys does that this season as well, but wants to reverse the curse since Sean didn’t choose Desiree, so he takes a coin out of the fountain or something to that effect.

When I last posted, I’d told you that Lesley Murphy was flown to Portugal to meet with Desiree on her journey. Well come to find out, not only did Lesley go to Portugal, but so did Catherine and Jackie Parr. Now that makes more sense to me than just Lesley going. My guess is all three girls are there to just give Desiree support and have a girl chat. I have no idea if they met the guys or not, but I was told that all three of them went to Portugal to see her. Once I was told this, a quick view of their Twitter and Instagram pages right around that time pretty much gave it away as well. Ahhhh, gotta love social media. It’s basically impossible nowadays to not have bits and pieces of this show spoiled by something someone tweets or a picture someone posts on Instagram.

Also in my last column, I said there were 11 guys on the Mr. America group date in New Jersey, and I’d given you nine of them along with what each of them did during the talent portion of the contest. Except for Zack Kalter, but you’ll get that in a second. When this date took place, as it was happening, I was live tweeting that day telling you what was going on, who the judges were, and who one 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place. I received these pictures from that night, along with who was who, and what each guy did on their talent portion. Here are the two pictures I received, along with identifying each guy. I know, it’s kinda hard considering the light is shining quite bright on them and these guys all look alike standing next to each other. However, this is the correct identification of each of them.

(Starting from the far end): Kasey Stewart (being covered up by Chris Harrison), Drew Kenney, Zack Kalter, Mike Garofola, Mikey Tenerelli, Brooks Forester, Chris Siegfried, Ben Scott, Zak Waddell, Juan Pablo Galavis, Bryden Vukasin

(Starting from the end closest to us): Bryden Vukasin, Zak Waddell, Mike Garofola, Chris Siegfried, Mikey Tenerelli, Ben Scott, Zack Kalter, Drew Kenney, Juan Pablo Galavis, Brooks Forester (being covered up by Kasey & standing next to Juan Pablo in the red speedo), Kasey Stewart (receiving his first place sash)

So now that you know Mikey and Drew were the 10th and 11th guys on the group date, here’s the full list of what everyone did for the talent portion (so you don’t have to click back to the last post):

Kasey: He did a tap dancing act. Didn’t take it too seriously since he didn’t know how, but it was apparently fairly entertaining. Must’ve been since he won it.
Drew: Read a scene from Romeo & Juliet.
Bryden: Strip tease.
Chris: He came out in women’s heels, and hula hooped around his arms and waist.
Mike G.: He got the crowd fired up and sang “Fight for Your Right To Party” by the Beastie Boys.
Brooks: He played the ukuele to a song he made up. At the end of the song, he smashed his ukulele on the ground.
Mikey: Did a Michael Jackson impersonation dancing with a hat white gloves on. Also stripped and did one-armed pushups.
Ben: He pulled a Frank the Tank from “Old School” and did a rhythmic gymnastics routine using the ribbon and everything. Good stuff.
Zack W.: He played the guitar and sang.
Zack K.: He roller skated on stage.
Juan Pablo: Played the mini drums.

Another note from the last post in regards to Bryden. When I announced him as a contestant two weeks ago, it was because I was told he was already home. Bryden eliminated himself early in the week in Germany before the rose ceremony because from what I was told “just wasn’t feeling it.” Hmmmm, interesting. I guess that could be the reason. Or maybe the fact that Becky Weidow is waiting for him at home. She posted a picture of them kissing on her Instagram account just days before he left for filming. Really? So she acknowledges the fact that she knew he was leaving to go on the “Bachelorette” by saying “I’ll be missing you,” under her Instagram picture of them kissing, then ever since he’s been back, she’s posted numerous pictures of them together. You check all those pics out on her Instagram account (djbeckyfresh), but I’d do it quickly because I’m guessing her account will be turned to private the second she finds out what I just wrote. So, I guess Brian Jarosinski and Bryden Vukasin will be competing for biggest douchelord of the season. Close race at this point. Do we go with Brian, who apparently never even told the girl he was dating back home that he was going on the “Bachelorette” and she didn’t find out he was on it until she was alerted about my column, or Bryden, who knowingly was hooking up with what seems like his girlfriend right before leaving for the show, she KNOWS he’s leaving for the show, and doesn’t seem to care? I say tie for last. I find it funny when people make a mockery of this show. Makes my job that much easier.

As for where we stand now, the hometown dates have ended, and the rose ceremony was last night in LA. I don’t know who was eliminated yet, but I have my guess. From everything I’ve been told, Desiree has been smitten by Brooks from the beginning and that’s the guy she’s gonna choose. We’re two weeks away from finding out if that happens. Could be true, could just be hearsay. Last season towards the end, I was told AshLee was going to be Sean’s pick, so Brooks could end up being wrong. But I’m just telling you that’s what I’ve been told, which is why I tweeted that Desiree’s pick won’t be a surprise to anyone based on what I’m hearing. Apparently it’s been Brooks for a while now. That’d be great if not only did I spoil the winner again this season, but that I spoil it before she even picks the guy. Those are some damn good sources if she ends up engaged to Brooks. Now just because they might get engaged doesn’t necessarily mean these two are getting married. From everything I’m hearing, Brooks Forester is not ready to be married anytime soon. Just sayin’.

Also, I had reported that I was told that there was a “90% chance” that they’d be going to Paris this season. Well, the odds were not in my favor this time. they are not headed to Paris for the overnight dates and final rose ceremony this season. Production is leaving today and they’re headed to the Caribbean. I don’t have the exact location yet, but they are definitely going tropical again this season. They’ve been to quite a few places in the Caribbean already in past seasons, so it’ll be interesting to see if they recycle a place they’ve already been to, or head somewhere else.

As for your final four, they are:

Brooks Forester: 28, Salt Lake City, Utah.

Zak Waddell: 31, San Antonio, TX.

Drew Kenney: Scottsdale, AZ.

Chris Siegfried: 27, Seattle, Washington.

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  1. randais

    May 8, 2013 at 4:35 PM

    I’ve been busting butt to get caught up on everything and here I go….
    **The Following**
    Parker’s dead :(, boo. I always want the good guys to win.
    The boys won! Good for them.
    This is getting a bit vague, I think. I still love this show but I would love a bit more clarity.
    Marylou Henner went home.
    cc – I agree, his time was up and he was NO dancer.
    **THE VOICE**
    Talent overload! I really enjoy this show.
    I don’t think anyone here is still watching this but what a sad episode this week :(. On the up side, I totally LOVED this song:

    Survivor tonight and last but certainly NOT least, SYTYCD premiere’s next week!

    Did I miss anything?

  2. kasey31

    May 8, 2013 at 5:12 PM

    Elizabeth, that’s my theory, too.. she’s the last one to be with him, and there is no way he could have been anymore vulnerable than in a shower, after being intimate with someone, and she knew that was her time to strike.. but to answer your question (sorry I thought your question was different), no it will not impact the penalty phase. there is no division between felony murder and pre meditated murder, the punishments are one and the same.. and if anything, the penalty should now be harsher bc what the jurors are basically saying is not only do we believe she pre meditated the killing, but we also believe the killing was a precursor to the felony.. therefore, making it more heinous..

    she has 3 options now: life without parole, life with parole, and the death penalty..

    tomorrow is part 2 (the aggravation phase), and the prosecutor must prove that Jodi’s murder was cruel and heinous in nature and that she knew what she was doing would cause the victim to suffer.. if the jury finds her guilty of that, it immediately moves into the penalty phase, and it’s the defense’s opportunity to plead for Jodi’s life (she has no criminal background, etc), have Jodi make a statement on why she should not receive the dp, and have her family make statements, as well.. then the jury deliberates again and decides whether or not to give her the dp or life without parole, and the decision must be unanimous.. if the jury is deadlocked, a new jury will decide that part of the trial only… if they agree on the dp, she immediately is sent to death row..

    if the jury finds it was not cruel or heinous, the judge will sentence her to either life with the possibility of parole after 25yrs, or life without parole, after hearing victim impact statements.. but that probably wouldn’t be for like a month or so…

    I have a feeling the jury will come back guilty on the aggravated circumstances tomorrow, though..

  3. kasey31

    May 8, 2013 at 5:15 PM

    as for the dp? I believe that is in God’s hands.. whatever the jury decides, I will accept.. I am just so thankful they reached a verdict that was fair and just.. like I said before, no one wins in this case, really.

  4. kasey31

    May 8, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    ^^obviously I meant the felony was a precursor to the killing.

  5. elizabeth82

    May 8, 2013 at 5:40 PM

    Thanks, kasey31. I’m seeing now part of an interview Jodi Arias did right after the verdict . . . She says she wants the DP because she thinks she’d live a long time and “death is the ultimate freedom.” Not if you kill someone it isn’t! She would have to face consequences in the afterlife for her heinous crime, IMO.

    I too think that the jury will find this a heinous, aggravated murder. How could they not now that they’ve decided she premeditated it? Her act of murder included overkill, she wanted him to suffer, and it was merciless.

  6. kasey31

    May 8, 2013 at 9:24 PM

    100% agree, Elizabeth.. you know, the tough part for me is whether or not to believe ANYTHING that comes out of her mouth now, u know? how coincidental that she happens to say that right before the aggravated phase.. I almost think that she is saying that thinking the jury will sentence her to lwop bc she is claiming to want the opposite.. did travis have a choice in whether or not he wanted to live? no, he certainly didn’t.. it’s all about her, and this interview goes to prove that.. again, she speaks of no one but herself until point-blank asked about it.. still, no apologies.. what she did was absolutely heinous, merciless, and cruel.. the horror he must have experienced is unthinkable.. the jury will probably take about 10mins deciding that part.. I think the dp and lwop is what they may not agree on..

  7. Sunnyside422

    May 9, 2013 at 6:50 AM

    I have not been following the trial…just everyone’s comments on it. All I can say is WOW…that woman is wacko!! And hopefully she will never see the light of day.

    I will be so sad if Kree goes. Am so involved this year…never missed a show…and from the original audition, have been a Kree fan! Candice is an awesome singer and probably will win. Angie is all about postering for the camera and the audience and she seems to be screeching and screaming a lot more. But I will say all 3 are very special in their own way. If anyone wants to see and listen to their performance songs, they are all up on Youtube. Since I really like Kree, I have been listening to her version of Stormy Weather, Crying and Have You Ever Been In Love. I just think she is very genuine. Loved when the violin player fist bumped her after her song…first time any of the musicians acknowledged any of the singers.

    Oh, Harry Connick Jr. was on Ellen yesterday and was asked if he wanted to be a judge on Idol. He said he had not been contacted by the show contrary to internet comments and he was not sure how good a judge he would be. I’d really enjoy him as a judge and please eliminate Nicki!

  8. iheartvino

    May 9, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    Regarding who Des picks, I’m still hoping that it’s Brooks, because I would like to see either Chris or Drew as next Bachelor. Purely based on their photos, of course. (nope that doesn’t make me shallow, not at all! haha)

    I haven’t been watching much this season at all, but I did catch about 15 min of last night’s episode, including the quick recaps at the end and from what I saw, Candice and Angie did better than Kree. Does anyone else think that Kree looks a lot like Shenae (sp?) Grimes, or Annie on 90210? All three seem to have amazing voices though. I usually end up watching the finale every year, even if I haven’t seen much of the season.

  9. ccrider

    May 9, 2013 at 1:32 PM

    iheart… you watch 90210?

  10. randais

    May 9, 2013 at 1:57 PM

    Sunny – I was a complete Kree fan originally but the tables have turned. Candice has surpassed her and at this point, I can’t see Kree winning 🙁 but I think they are all exceptional and Candice is a remarkable talent.

  11. iheartvino

    May 9, 2013 at 2:40 PM

    ccrider- yep, sadly I do!! I don’t know why I still watch it, as bad as it’s been the past two seasons. I guess I’m just curious to see how it all ends, since the series finale is coming up soon. I need to catch up though- I think I’m two episodes behind.

  12. karynr

    May 10, 2013 at 5:01 AM

    kasey..thanks for the youtube video. She is one manipulative sicko. She is determined to manipulate her way through this horror show. And I can’t believe the embarassment of a sheriff in AZ., Joe Arpaio, isn’t jumping on the media bandwagon. That’s so unlike him!

    I cried my way through two nights of Idol this week. I never knew Cree’s history and really respect the fact that they didn’t dramatize it all season. I really like Angie, but hope she learned a lot the past few months. She has everything it takes and just needs to lose herself in the music more, and not play to the cameras as much. The Pink song she sang the other night won’t stop running through my mind. It’s really good. I’m of the generation where classic rock (Eagles, Billy Joel, Janis Joplin, etc.) are more my thing, but that is a great song!

    *The Voice*
    I just started watching this last season and it’s really grown on me! I like Shakira and Usher a lot more than Christina and Celo. They seem a little more down-to-earth.

  13. ccrider

    May 10, 2013 at 5:57 AM

    iheart…..I was a big BH 90210 fan back in the day so when the new 90210 started then it was just natural for me to watch it also. I agree though….it’s gone a little downhill recently but, like you, I have to see it through to the end. I’m all caught up on it so I won’t say anything more. 🙂

    Happy Friday everyone!!

  14. Sunnyside422

    May 10, 2013 at 6:38 AM

    Have to admit I was doing a happy dance at the IDOL finals! Way to go Kree. Both Candice and Kree seem so genuine and sweet so either one winning will be fine with me (tho I hope it is Kree).

    Angie was all about herself (I felt). Just too interested in the camera, batting those huge eyes. Never connected with her at all, but I am sure she will be commercial for someone.

    Both Candice and Kree have amazing back stories and being humble is not a bad thing!

  15. jazzmine

    May 10, 2013 at 9:17 AM

    Harry Connick, Jr?! Mmmmmm….. yummy.
    Someone mentioned Marilu Henner? She must be trying a comeback phase, in that I’m pretty sure she was on 2 1/2 Men last night.

  16. iheartvino

    May 10, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    *Bev Hills 90210*
    ccrider, I was the same! I’ll admit that I had the Bev Hills 90210 posters that I tore out from YM and Teen magazines in junior high hanging on my bedroom wall. Kelly and Dylan were my favorite characters and I couldn’t stand Donna or Andrea. Watched it all the way through every season and remember watching the finale with some girlfriends my senior yr of college. good times.

    *The Voice*
    Karyn, I like The Voice so much better than Idol. I love the concept of the singers having a coach and seeing them all the way through. I find myself caring a lot more about what happens on the Voice than on Idol. The Voice just seems much more personal to me. Having Adam and Blake on there to look at regularly is a plus too! 🙂

    Everyone ready for the finale? I’m going to have to remember to not look at any social media on Sun. night because the majority of my friends live in TX and I know they’re going to be posting about who dies and I don’t want to know ahead of time. I’m really starting to think it might be Jack or Nolan. I hope it’s neither one!!

  17. kasey31

    May 10, 2013 at 10:59 PM

    sunny, whacko is right!

    karynr, you’re welcome! thought that video was a light-hearted comic relief to a very tragic situation.. and you’re so right about everything u said.. i don’t think i’ve seen anyone more manipulative in my life.. dare i say, even more so than casey anthony?

    iheart, im ready.. i think?! i’m hoping it’s not jack or nolan either, but i have a terrible feeling that it might be one of them.. one of the original cast members? hopefully it’s ashley- no offense, ash! lol… and the voice, seriously LOVE this show.. love adam, blake, and i really like the addition of shakira and usher, too..

    randais, what did u think of the season finale of the following??

    are anyone else’s comments being auto-corrected on this site? i don’t like it! haha.. i have red lines all over this comment..

  18. karynr

    May 12, 2013 at 5:54 AM

    Happy Mothere’s Day!!!!

  19. Sunnyside422

    May 12, 2013 at 10:52 AM

    And back at cha Karynr and every other mother on this board! Mother is the best title ever.

    So anxious for Revenge to air tonight.

  20. Sunnyside422

    May 13, 2013 at 8:00 AM

    So it was Declan…my guess. Stands to reason. He wasn’t shown often enough to make any impact.

    Surprised about Takata (sp) though. Somehow I don’t think we have seen the last of Aiden.

  21. allybow

    May 13, 2013 at 8:12 AM

    Wow! Revenge did not disappoint! I am looking forward to next season!!

  22. iheartvino

    May 13, 2013 at 5:06 PM

    *Revenge* (Spoilers if you haven’t watched yet..)

    I have mixed feelings about last night’s finale. If you compare it to 99% of the other shows out there, then yeah, the finale was great and didn’t disappoint. But if you compare it to season one’s finale, it fell WAY short. To be fair, I wasn’t expecting it to be as good as the season one finale- I mean how could that be topped? But, still, I definitely think it was overhyped and like usual they saved the majority of the important stuff for the final 10-15 min.

    I think the finale was MUCH better than the rest of the season though, and I’ll definitely be watching in the fall to see what happens next. I really hope they pay a tribute to Declan’s death and pick up right where it left off. I felt a little cheated that we didn’t at least get to see Charlotte’s reaction. I also hope Daniel didn’t kill Aiden, although if he did, that would definitely make Emily want to have even more revenge against the Graysons. What did everyone else thing?

    I’m sooooo happy that 24 is coming back next year. I’m a little nervous about the new format and wonder if it will be as good now that it won’t be in its original format of one 24 hr period = one season, but I’ll definitely watch anyway.

  23. iheartvino

    May 13, 2013 at 5:07 PM

    Ugh *think, not thing.

  24. allybow

    May 13, 2013 at 6:48 PM

    I like Revenge so much because it set up strong story lines for each character. I feel like season 3 will be so interesting because each of the characters story linea can stand on its own. It was left open for lots of drama

  25. rob22

    May 14, 2013 at 11:07 AM

    Two weeks and The Bachelorette is on. Is RS going to have his spoilers up by then? Tick-Toc

  26. rollingeyes

    May 14, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    I’m seeing on other sites that Brooks Forester is Des’ Final One. Where I’m not seeing it is on Reality Steve’s site. I’m not seeing ANYTHING new on Reality Steve’s site. RS can’t say he spoiled it first.

  27. kasey31

    May 14, 2013 at 7:45 PM

    rollingeyes, same here..ive heard from a lot of different places that brooks is the f1? still am not confident until i hear from steve, but still.. i guess if it were to continue for a few more seasons, then it might be safe to assume that others are getting spoilers, too.. other sites also had the f4 before rs posted them, as well.. but i still have faith in steve.. hopefully he posts something soon..

    iheart, ok.. everyone is going to start thinking we are the same person.. there has to be something we disagree on here soon! i was very disappointed with the season finale of revenge, as well : ( i think the problem is that season 1 was so amazing, in its simplicity, that the creator, writers, etc, tried too hard to add depth to a storyline that didn’t need the extra fluff.. it actually caused more confusion than anything else.. season 2 had so many loose ends that were never tied up, and i had hoped that in the season finale, we would have clarity to a lot of the chaos that came out of the second season.. killing off declan seemed a bit desperate to me, to be honest.. like u said, no tribute to such an important character throughout this show? even amanda’s death was more emotional than that.. not sure what to make of the show right now or the direction it’s headed down..

    i miss the formula that worked so well in season 1.. it was epic.. intelligent, suspenseful, but it maintained simplicity that was so powerful and riveting without having an overly complicated storyline. like u said, compared to other shows, it was good. but something was lacking in season 2, and idk what it was.. i only know that it really left me disappointed bc i truly LOVED this show initially.

  28. kasey31

    May 14, 2013 at 8:04 PM

    iheart, we can totally pretend to disagree about something.. lets get into a fake fight ; )

  29. iheartvino

    May 14, 2013 at 9:36 PM

    Kasey, you know what they say– great minds!! 🙂 we do seem to share a lot of the same views on shows but I think we had different predictions on who Des picked- you said Chris (I think?) and I said Brooks. So there’s something!!

  30. kasey31

    May 14, 2013 at 9:54 PM

    is anyone else getting the “well this is embarrassing.. we can’t seem to find what you’re looking for” page when they try to log in? what a weird statement for a site error.. i kind of want to comment back to it, “no, steve, what’s embarrassing is that u haven’t had any spoilers for us in like 2 weeks” haha

    jk, steve! ; ) i’m sure they’re coming soon!

  31. kasey31

    May 14, 2013 at 9:57 PM

    iheart, true!! can we fake fight about it? btw, that smiley face scares me.. please don’t do that again.. haha.. <3

  32. iheartvino

    May 14, 2013 at 10:03 PM

    Kasey That sounds like something I’d say. (Big surprise there lol) too funny. And I’m not sure what’s creepier, the wink or the smiley face.

    But in all seriousness, I have faith that Steve will come through with the other spoilers soon. I’m still counting on Brooks as F1, but only bc I find Chris and Drew more attractive and would rather see one of them as the next Bachelor!

  33. karynr

    May 15, 2013 at 5:40 AM

    *DWTS/SYTYCD/The Voice*
    Last night was so much fun……DWTS, SYTYCD and The Voice….I’m on talent overload! I usually tape one or more, so I’m not locked into watching immediately, but thoroughly enjoyed soaking in all that big talent!

  34. rob22

    May 15, 2013 at 7:38 AM

    Last article was up 4/24. Three weeks! Last time RS said we should get on the Twitter feed to get more real time updates. Well, I did that. Not much there other than musings about the bios and questionaires on the ABC site…. oh, and a comment about the fact that “24” is coming back. RS is really behind the eight ball. It just might be time to come back from vacation.

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