The “Bachelorette” Andi “Men Tell All” Recap Incl Tweets About the Plane Video and Who Was the Woman in the Audience?

July 22nd, 2014 | 24 Comments | Posted in The Bachelorette 10 - Andi

-I think by far one of the more bizarre “Men Tell All” episodes we’ve ever seen. Not necessarily that it was so much different from seasons past, because they essentially all have the same format, but in the sense that of the 16 guys on the stage, you maybe remember half of them even saying one word. The whole show really focused around the race card, Chris, and lie detectors. Amazing how they dragged that out for two hours. Of course you had to mix in your “Bachelor in Paradise” preview, the Ashley & JP segment, and bloopers and somehow that became 120 minutes of a whole lot of nothing. Your typical in fighting with the whole race card, you had three guys brought up to the hot seat and Andi making her appearance, so in that aspect, nothing about this show was different than any previous season, except for the content since, well, we’re dealing with completely different people in a different season. Which is why Ben’s “Women Tell All” will always be the most different “Tell All” that they’ve ever done because it was the only time one of the final 2 appeared before everyone else when they brought Courtney on stage. Unless they do that in the future, the show is usually rather boring. Last night was no different. Just a little on the weird side.

-And lets not forget our favorite aspect of the “Tell All” shows, and that’s the over exaggerated, completely over-the-top-made-for-TV facial expressions that the crowd gives to things that they shouldn’t be that concerned with. And oh yeah, seriously ridiculous choppy editing. You’ll get a scene with the crowd cheering loudly, then they’ll cut to something else and rather than the cheering fading out, it comes to a complete stop. Guys are cut off mid sentence, facial expressions are shown completely out of order of when they actually happened, sound bites are spliced and diced – so yeah, basically like any other episode this show produces. It’s why on the live ATFR shows, you see none of this since they can’t splice something together that’s live. Speaking of that, we’re at that point in the season where I inevitably get the question (and I already have last night) of, “Why are they saying the finale is live? Wasn’t it already taped? Is Andi making her decision next week?” No, they’ve been saying it’s a live finale for the last 5 years. The two hour show is still taped from what happened back in the Dominican Republic, with live segments mixed in as Chris Harrison will be live in the audience coming in and out of commercial break. But then the ATFR will be live (on EST & CST. Sorry MTN and PST. You guys get it taped. Stay off social media next week if you don’t want to know the results). So rather than say, “Next week, our two hour finale that was taped months ago but with a live ATFR,” they just say, “live finale.” Seems to roll off the tongue a bit easier, no?

-Ashley and JP were brought out first. If anyone has a logical explanation as to what this whole segment was about, please, let me know. I’m still scratching my head over it. Ashley & JP have pretty much remained out of the spotlight in this franchise for a long time. Sure, they’ll make the occasional appearance here and there, but at least I’ve never gotten the impression they keep milking this show every chance they can get. But last night was just completely bizarre. Complete head scratcher. The first part of their segment made sense. Update on the pregnant couple, talking about potential baby names, and then updating us on the fact they’re moving to Miami (which I believe happened this past weekend). All of that made sense. We’ve seen that before and I’m sure we’ll see it again in the future when they bring past couples on. That’s standard. Ashley is due Oct. 7th according to her and her ever growing chest size. Yowza. That baby definitely isn’t going hungry I’ll tell you that. But then, things got a tad weird…

-For those that didn’t know, Ashley and JP announced the sex of their baby back on April 30th when People.com ran the story. So to use a whole segment last night and never acknowledge that fact, or pretend that they were “breaking” some 3 month old news, I just don’t get it. What was the point? I mean, if they had announced a week ago maybe I could understand, but even then it’s still already out there. I know women go in more than once when they’re pregnant to see an ultrasound of their baby. I get it. But last night it was like they were pretending nobody knew what the sex was. It was just awkward all the way around. No other way to describe. From creepy doctor guy, to Chris Harrison doing a play-by-play of the thing, I was covering my eyes the whole time. And then the obligatory crowd shots of the women with anxious looks on their faces as this whole thing is going down was so uncomfortable. Whose idea was this? Obviously Ashley & JP weren’t surprised and put on the spot. They knew this was going to happen. I’m just shocked they agreed to do this. The whole thing was surreal and lets pray this never happens again.

-Next up was the “Bachelor in Paradise” extended promo. This is the longest one we’ve seen to this point since they can show everyone involved now that the full cast has been “officially” released. So many quick shots and choppy editing in that thing as well, but if you frame-by-frame it, you can see it pretty much matches up with everything I’ve given you in the episode-by-episode spoilers. A couple things they did show that I wanted to touch on. As we know, promos start getting people freaked out because they see something that looks dramatic, and immediately jump to conclusions. Like take for example the end of that promo where it showed someone in handcuffs. Already had people ask me, “Who got arrested?” Ummmm, nobody. The guys had a pair of handcuffs and were seeing who could get out of them the quickest. That’s all. Yet when shown in slow motion in a promo, immediately people think something different. Yeah, it’s nothing. No one gets arrested, there were no cop cars anywhere, and no one gets hauled off to jail.

-We saw plenty of clips of Sarah on dates with Robert, we saw Dylan and Elise having their talk after Dylan confronts her about making out with Chris Bukowski even though she says she was thinking of Dylan (uh huh), we saw Michelle on a date with Marquel, we saw her making out with Cody, we saw Marcus reading the letter he “found” in Ben’s bag from his girlfriend, etc. The list goes on. The ambulance scene is probably when Lacy was taken to the hospital. She had some bad food or dehydrated. Something like that. Nothing crazy like they’re making it seem. Marcus also had to go to the hospital as well to get stitches on his toe after messing it up. That’s what they’re talking about when you hear someone say “there’s so much blood,” or something to that effect. Marcus’ toe. Not some double homicide like they make it seem with the facial expressions and the eerie music. But other than that, the way those promos are edited with the quick camera movements, the voice overs, and tight shots of people crying, it makes it much more impactful than it probably is.

24 thoughts on “The “Bachelorette” Andi “Men Tell All” Recap Incl Tweets About the Plane Video and Who Was the Woman in the Audience?

  1. Interesting. According to Kat Safi’s Facebook page, she’s also “friends” with Elan Gale, of ABC fame. One thing, the girl does have a good job. I’m from Ontario, any anyone that works for the government is pretty much set for life, should they so choose

  2. She just “follows” Elan Gale on Facebook. Which I think means his public posts will show up in her newsfeed, but they’re not actually “Facebook Friends.” I don’t think its surprising that someone who is a big fan of the franchise would follow someone from the show.

  3. I recently moved from a town very near Guelph, Ontario. Interesting way to tease a future contestant, but I don’t see her going far. As you said, Dianne, Government jobs up here in Canada are plum, can’t see her ditching that for Iowa.

  4. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I have wondered why NO ONE else seems to have noticed that JJ looked totally hammered in the “tell all” episode. Not a little. It was painfully obvious- probably made far worse by the fact that he was sitting next to Marquel- who practically glows like a neon sign when he smiles.

  5. The ultrasound segment was ultra weird. From reaching into Ashley’s dress via a 5 inch side zip to Ashley and JP razzing each other about various things…..I felt la little out of place.

    The whole black guys thing went on for way too long. JJ appeared to be stoned and Andrew is just smarmy. I will give JJ credit for passing the lie detector test. That does give him some credibility in blackies vs. black guys.

    Please tell me Lunkhead and Gigglesnorts aren’t making an appearance on After The Final Rose. I’m looking forward to Andi and Jivin’ Josh walking off into the sunset…..or into one of Aaron’s games, whichever comes first.

    Finally, to Chris Soules…..please stay humble and don’t get caught up in the faux celebrity this show seems to create.

  6. I was actually surprised that Ashley agreed to something so invasive to be done in front of an audience – I guess anything for a quick buck. Ashley and JP seem so down to earth so it was just weird. I still wish Marquel could be the next bachelor but I will still watch Chris’ season. And I’ve really really tried to like Andi but she just doesn’t come off as genuine, her segment irked me.

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  7. If you look at Josh’s Twitter, he says:

    “My full name is Joshua, not Josh (lie 1)…I always wash hands after bathroom except when I play golf & I go in the woods, no sink (lie 2) ????”

    Then earlier he tweets:
    “Everything that everyone says at Rose Ceremonies is recorded bc everyone has microphones on …Ponder that & then come to ur own conclusions”

    To that I’m thinking, ‘it does sometimes happen that your audio sounds muffled or garbled and you can’t decipher it.’ Especially if you have crappy mic’s (which I doubt they do. I see some pretty high-end cameras there….) Sometimes that happens for no technical reason, just logistics; sometimes if someone’s covered up the mic with something. Or, perhaps ABC doesn’t want to try very hard to come up with the recording, hence they ‘don’t have it.’

  8. @BFW – are Lunkhead & Gigglesnorts Sean & Catherine? What made you think they would be on ATFR?

  9. Hmmm…remembering Josh’s fairly extreme reaction to the lie detector, it’s hard to believe it’s only because he lied about not always washing his hands.

  10. Reading the story about Steve’s niece and her reaction to the no Santa and no Easter Bunny sure brought back memories. My 10 year old daughter said EXACTLY those words, in that order to both shockers. It was 21 years ago, but it feels like it was last week.
    On another note, this Men Tell All was probably the most entertaining I have seen. But I still fast forwarded through some parts that dragged on way too long. The ultrasound and the Marquel/Andrew exchange. And yes, JJ was either hammered or stoned.

  11. @BFW, For someone who says they hate Sean and Catherine so much, you sure manage to bring them up a lot.

  12. Bingo, goosiegirl, bingo! You sure hit that nail on the head regarding BFW and her continuous references to Sean and Catherine.

  13. The entire ultrasound segment was just plain..not normal. Okay, so, they “unzip” the side of Ashley’s dress..apply the gel, and do the test. BUT..did you notice, after the ultra sound was so called completed, she just zipped her dress back up again..and didn’t bother to remove the gel??!! Now..THAT is nasty because that gel is thick, and gooey, and there is no way any true ultrasound technician would let their “patient” go without a wipe down..no way..no how! Soooooooo phony!! I have to admit I’m really really surprised that JP would allow this..Ashley, not so much..I think she still loves the limelight, but JP?

  14. I, for one, totally agree with Bigfatwoman. Sean and Catherine are annoying and mentioning them often doesn’t mean you love them. They probably will trot them out. They have become total fame whores too. Yes, the ultrasound thing was soooo stupid. As someone who has had 3 kids and 3 ultrasounds, they don’t just move the wand over one small side of you to find out the sex. They need your whole belly. You can’t wear a dress with a side zip! Talk about taking a kind of intimate and personal moment, then adding a huge cup of fakeness since they already know the sex (and JP’s crocodile tears), which adds up to a big pile of s#$%@! I never watched Ashley’s season. She was just so boring, but I’ve never found her likable. The ultrasound on MTA only served to reinforce that she’s annoying. BTW, does she even work? Does she have a dental office and see patients?

  15. Like a few others have mentioned, I’m also surprised that Ashley and JP agreed to do the ultrasound. Real or not, it was still weird. I’m wondering what’s next- is Ashley going to breastfeed their baby on next year’s MTA? I really like Ashley and JP- they’re one of my favorite couples from the franchise, mainly because they (for the most part) seem to stay out of the spotlight and live normal live. That segment just seemed a little unusual for them.

    Apparently Chris S. and Arie Jr. are the two front runners for the next Bachelor. I wouldn’t mind Arie being the Bachelor one bit. Steve replied to someone on Twitter that he’s heard they haven’t yet made a decision but that it’s down to those two.

  16. ohhhh..iheart..I like the idea of Arie as the next Bachelor..that would be some nice eye-candy to watch, lol! I do love Chris..he’s such a gentleman..and so humble, but I think he may be too good for this gong-show..Arie would be a much better fit :-)

  17. RS, do you have any idea where the location of the proposal took place in the DR?

  18. @Iheart, whoa! Arie, really? I’m confused, every time someone asks about him being the Bachelor I feel like Steve is very quick to shoot it down and say “Never going to happen people” and he has been adamant for a long time: “Look, I don’t know what to tell you, it’s 100% Chris, it just IS, deal with it.” He has made no mention of there being any possibility that they were even considering anyone else, much less Arie! And now in a Twitter response he just blithely throws it out there that it’s down to those two??? I’m a little incredulous he wouldn’t share this new development here, or at the very least make his own tweet about it. But oh well…In any case I like Chris, he seems nice, unassuming, and rather “aw…shucks…” but frankly I think Arie has a little more bad boy exciting-ness (that is totally a word) about him and if there is truth to this then he’s my pick.

  19. My God, do I have to hear Michelle Money’s name mentioned in EVERY spin off to “The Bachelor” franchise?? She has to be pushing, what, 40 by now? Time to move on to something that is a bit more age appropriate and stop hanging around twenty somethings. JEESH!

  20. Michelle Money is 33. Same age as Ashlee Frazier, and Clare Crawley. So actually she fits right in with this group. She may be my favorite person ever from this franchise so I guess we’ll agree to disagree, lol.

  21. On the lie detector, remember that they like to prod, goad, some say browbeat the contestants into showing emotions that are good for drama. Showing them having a fight about something and then resolving it would be good for the relationship if real (good to know how someone fights if you’re going to marry them) and if manufactured, good for the storyline in so many ways. JMO

  22. Did anyone else notice the date on the “live” sonogram was 7/12/14 and the timestamp jumped around several hours? Clearly not live.

  23. dc101 The Men Tell all isn’t live, it was taped a couple weeks ago, hence how Steve was able to post all the spoilers from it in advance. It could have been on the 14th.

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