“Reader Emails,” & Fallout from the Finale

July 31st, 2014 | 16 Comments | Posted in The Bachelorette 10 - Andi

Being in New York since Sunday, I feel like I have no idea what’s going on anywhere. I’ve watched no TV other than the show from Monday night, and haven’t been as thorough with keeping up daily to the entertainment news that’s been going on. I appreciate everyone who’s emailed me to kinda fill me in on all things Andi/Josh/Nick related, whether it be through email or Twitter. I’ve got a couple links to share with you before we get to a giant batch of “Reader Emails.” You will get a lot of varying opinions on what Nick did Monday night. You know where I stand. I thought it was unnecessary. But the things is, it’s so insignificant to me now, that dissecting it from every angle is a waste of time. I don’t care how hurt I was by being dumped by someone 2 1/2 months ago, I wouldn’t have brought that up on national television. Nick chose to take a different route. Whatever. I’m not gonna write a novel on the pros and cons of it. It’s over and done with, Andi & Josh have clearly moved on from it, so I don’t understand why others can’t. Does it make Nick a horrible human being? No. Did it make him a great guy? No. You’ll see a lot of people today discuss it in detail supporting why he should or shouldn’t have done it. To me, it’s over and done with. Moving on.

Headed to the airport now to head back home, so there will be a live video chat tonight at 9:00pm EST/6:00pm PST. Let me guess, you’ll wanna talk about Nick, right? Lets see if there’s other stuff we can talk about. Maybe start turning our attention towards “Bachelor in Paradise.” That could be a start. See you tonight.

As for the Arie vs Chris debate on who will be the next “Bachelor,” it still hasn’t been officially decided. Mike Fleiss can tweet all he wants about asking for BachelorNation’s help, but that’s just to get people talking. They will choose who they want to choose, and as I’ve said since the day I posted the spoilers, I do think it’ll end up being Chris. Just because they hired Arie a personal trainer doesn’t mean he’s going to get it since, well, they hired Chris a personal trainer too. It’s between them. I don’t expect an official announcement anytime soon. The final casting weekend for the women hasn’t even happened yet, so they’re certainly not going to announce it before those girls get in town. I wouldn’t expect the next “Bachelor” announcement to be public until September right before filming starts. Of course, I’m sure it will be spoiled before then.

In case you missed it, Nick did his conference call with reporters earlier in the week. Biggest thing to take from it is he says 100% that the producers had nothing to do with him saying what he did. He didn’t even plan on doing it, but Andi was being so cold to him on stage, that’s why he did it. Ummmmm, that makes it even worse. So basically you just did it to embarrass her because you were mad. Got it.

Andi & Josh also had their conference call with the media and basically you could tell these two have zero interest in ever saying Nick’s name again. Also, Andi talks about her comment at the end of the show telling Josh she knew it was him from the first night, which has all the Nick fans’ panties in a bunch. I think she clarifies exactly what she meant by that. I’m sure Nick fans will choose not to believe her to support their rants against her, but hey, at least she’s explaining what she meant.

The best interview Andi & Josh did was with HuffPost Live (I can’t embed the video into the column so definitely click on the link to watch). They’re asked about Nick around the 9:30 mark, but then around the 10:30 minute mark, the topic of the Nick plane videos is brought up. Obviously these two were both aware of it, and props to HuffPost Live to acknowledge where the videos came from. I appreciate it. Also, I don’t have the clip yet, but some of you emailed me and said that Nick was on ET Live last night and they mentioned the videos. UPDATE: Here’s the video:

Well there you go. Of course it wasn’t fake.

Anybody catch Nikki’s tweet on Monday regarding Nick spilling about having sex with Andi? In case you missed it, this is what she said:

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Wow. I find that completely hypocritical of her. You mean the same producers that kissed your ass and bent over backwards for you on Juan Pablo’s season? Those producers? The ones bought you more luggage once you started traveling when every other girl was only allowed 2 pieces? The producers that gave you the penthouse suite in Miami when all the other girls had regular rooms? The producers that constantly let you take as much time as you needed to get ready for dates, ITM’s, etc when everyone else was on a schedule? The producers that you made go search the streets of Vietnam to buy you a microwave because you were insistent on needing it for your bikini wax (If we’re being technical, it was actually a handler who was sent out to buy the mircowave, but obviously it was producer approved)? Those are the producers that are now trash? Amazing how her opinion of them changes once they are of no use to her anymore. Funny how that works.

Sean Lowe wrote an interesting column after Monday’s finale regarding Andi & Josh’s journey. It was more like an open letter to them having gone through it himself. Leave it to Sean to be the voice of reason for the whole situation. I agree with everything he wrote in there. Good read from someone who went through it himself.

I did an interview about a months ago with the Dallas Observer than ran yesterday. Check it out. Some things you may already know, some you may not. Enlighten yourself today by reading about me. You’ll be a better person for it.

16 thoughts on ““Reader Emails,” & Fallout from the Finale

  1. Hi Steve, can you elaborate on what you said about Nikki getting special treatment by producers? This is the first time I’ve heard that mentioned. Also, any thoughts on Nick being considered for Bachelor? You mentioned Arie and Chris are working with PTs already. What about Chris? This is most attention paid to #2 in a while.

  2. Regarding Jimmy Kimmel’s “predictions”: I don’t believe ABC would fill him in if Steve posted incorrect spoilers. Looking back to Desiree’s season, Jimmy “predicted” that Brooks was the winner, which was in line with Steve’s erroneous spoiler.

  3. I wish people would realize that there is absolutely no way Andi could have met with Nick in private. She was still contractually obligated to the show. Also, why would she? She is engaged to another man. Any private meeting with a man she had previously been intimate with, whether emotionally or physically, is not respectful to her current relationship.

  4. If Andi didn’t want anyone to know she had sex with Nick, she shouldn’t have gone there…problem solved.

  5. steve, sorry but why would the producers do all that extra for Nikki . Are you saying that she was the “winner” from the start? And if so, did JP just tell the producers this and that was it?

  6. I do agree with Steve that she can sleep with whomever she pleases; however, Nick clearly didn’t see it as just sex, it was deeper and more meaningful. So he shouldn’t have been public about it but he truly cared for the girl and I don’t think he intended to embarrass her. My friend made a post about it: http://www.pillowtalkwithelle.com

  7. I just wanted to say that I started Courtney’s book last night. It is a RIOT!!!! Anyone on the fence about it just read it! I

  8. I am thinking that Nick has some serious problems he needs to deal with. He was stalking Andi, pining away for her, acts like he can’t deal with life, and deliberately hurt her with his words. We haven’t seen this from any number 2 yet in this shows history, even from the crazy girls they have had on in the past. I think he’s a little bit psycho. I hope he gets the help he needs before he destroys himself. This does not seem normal to me.

  9. @penguinfan01, Good point about Nick being the only contestant we know of that pined for 2.5 months after the finale when not being chosen. On the basis of what we’ve seen before it’s definitely not in the range of what appears to be usual/normal. Just a couple of thoughts about that: 1) while he has pined publicly, he may or may not be the only one who has felt heartbroken and confused. and 2) can we really use the word “normal” for anything related to this show? I’m not ready to slap a label on him or to support anyone else doing so based on what we’ve seen to date. He admitted he takes rejection hard. You could certainly be right about it being a red flag but he could just be a person who wears his heart on his sleeve.

    About Andi and the two “rejection” interactions between them – what I’m curious about is why she clearly seemed so detached during both of them. I just can’t help wondering (obviously I’m guilty of reading into stuff too) what may have happened between them from the time of their hometown date to the final scene in the D.R. Doesn’t it just seem like something really changed for her? Either in terms of her feelings (friendship or otherwise), or something about Josh that just closed her off to anyone else… That’s the most perplexing thing about all of this to me. Her sending him home and how she responded to him on the show just seemed “off” in comparison to how she handled all the other send-offs.

    What do others think?

  10. While I really like Chris, I totally agree with Steve that Arie as Bachelor would be TV gold!

    Can you imagine all the girls they cast being convinced that they could “change” his horn dog ways? That all he really needs is the love of a good woman, and he’ll change! Really, he will! He just needs REAL love and compassion, and understanding and someone to listen to him, to hold him, to cry with him, who lets him be vulnerable, and….and….and….

    Ahhh hahahahah!!!!!

    Seriously, the ladies will be lining up to prove that THEY have what it takes. We ALL know women like that, and I guarantee that the producers can easily find 25 women desperate to prove it on National TV.

    If it’s Arie, it’s gonna be a hell of a ride, and I can’t wait!!!

  11. There was another similar situation as Nick outing Andi. In Jessie Palmers season, Tara Huckeby finished second, and accused Jessie of “inappropriate behavior” in the fantasy suite. I may be confusing her with someone else, but I think she also said something like “things were said….things were done”. If it wasn’t Tara, it was someone else in another season, but I’m pretty sure it was her. So, now role reversal. Yes, Jessie like Andi, had a right to sleep with her if he wanted. But Jessie pretty unanimously was viewed as a creep for taking advantage of Tara’s feelings for him. It’s kind of amazing that it’s so split on Andi. I guess guys are just supposed to tough it out and be happy that the girl gave it up? RS loves to talk about double standards…. But apparently not in this case.

  12. Wasn’t it Andi herself that talked about spending the night with Juan Pablo in the fantasy suite and how he treated her poorly afterwards? She had no problem talking about it on national tv. Why is everyone giving Nick such a hard time? He didn’t say it in a disrespectful way.

  13. I hate when RS acts like he simply doesn’t care enough to analyze a situation that is what everyone is analyzing right now about this franchise considering how he makes his living. It just seems so pretentious and lazy.
    Also, does anyone else notice he has always really had it out for Nikki? And after that big rant on her hypocrisy over the producers I feel like he tipped his hand a bit on his sources.
    As for Andi and Nick. I agree with Nick, should he have said it? Maybe it wasn’t especially gentlemanly but she was treating him so coldly I can understand why he might have had a “screw you” moment and just decide to quit dancing around the subject that had truly hurt him and just call her out on it. Most likely in the fantasy suite they did and said things that made him feel like it was love.
    I get that sex is “private” but after putting your entire dating life in front of the world to see, complete with lots of groping and kissing and the fantasy suite, c’mon did it really ruin her life that he shared that on any level. We all knew already, ya know? There is no virtue in decorum for the sake of decorum.
    Maybe it is just because I don’t care for Andi, I did at the start of her season, but starting with the night when she freaked out on all of them for one guys drunken behavior, then the whole Eric Hill situation, and several other occasions when you can tell she can’t handle being treated like anything other than a goddess and won’t stand for being called out on anything other, I sort of was glad Nick just did it.

  14. Amen to the comments above!

    I wish Andi would just stop trying to be this little sweetheart princess. This woman has an iron will and poor wussy Josh will see plenty of her pouty face.

    I just don’t care who the next bachelor is. Chris seems nice enough at this time. Arie seems smarmy but probably watching various vapid women trying to get into his pants could be entertaining. We shall see if smarmy or nice win out.

  15. Andi got upset with Juan Pablo because:
    1. He never asked her anything about herself in the Fantasy Suite. Andi CONSTANTLY asked Nick about himself = Not the same.
    2. JP told Andi about his time in the Fantasy Suite with the other women. Andi NEVER said a word to Nick about any of the other guys = Not the same.
    3. Andi left and NEVER attempted to contact JP again, for any reason. She never asked him for any “closure” or tried to talk him out of anything. Nick repeatedly tried to contact Andi, tried to talk her out of letting him go and DEMANDED “closure” = Not the same.

    How anybody could even remotely connect Andi’s situation with JP to her situation with Nick is mind-boggling unbelievable.

  16. the producers gave nikki special treatment just to create drama in the house. they wanted to make her feel cocky and have it affect the other girls. it worked.
    the only possible problem with chris is if he’s selling his soy beans to Monsanto. could be controversy. anyone know if he is? then again, maybe no one will care.

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