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“Reader Emails (Part 2), “Dr. Reality Steve” Plus News & Notes

Dear RS,

Thank you for your coverage of yet another soporifically boring Bachelor season! I’m also looking forward to the Bachelorette twist they’re doing–and I’ll be interested to see how it plays out in social media. Personally I’m a Kaitlyn fan (as a woman, I find her much more relatable), but given the types of guys who get cast on this show, I have a feeling that they’ll fall like lemmings off a cliff for Britt. Kaitlyn is maybe a bit too down to earth and low maintenance for them.

But regardless of which girl the guys choose, I could definitely see a bit of producer manipulation happening in there somewhere–pushing some guys to vote for the “losing” girl, for example, just to create more tension. Or, if the “winning” girl chooses a guy who didn’t vote for her, having him confront her at some point or something, like, “I didn’t vote for you, I’m quitting.” My point is that there are so many ways things could go down that it’s fun to speculate.

Anyways, thanks again! As a long time fan, I continue to enjoy your site.

Comment: I mean, I think having the guys vote Kaitlyn also plays into the underdog role and America loves a good underdog. I think a lot of people think (as you’ve read in some of today’s emails) that guys will think with their d**k and just go off looks and pick Britt. Which immediately makes Kaitlyn the underdog.
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Hi Steve,

Last night as I was watching the final rose ceremony, I noticed there
was snow on the ground and fields when Becca got out of the limo and when she was leaving. But when Whitney arrived, there was no snow in thefields, just a small pile in the driveway.

My question: How long does the filming for final rose ceremony take? Is it hours between the the loser and winner?

Comment: I haven’t gone back and watched, but the only thing I can think of is Chris in his People blog said right after Becca left, the sun came up. So from the time she left, til the time he was done proposing to Whitney, it could’ve been a good 4-5 hours that had passed and snow could’ve melted. I mean, they certainly didn’t reshoot it at a later date and it was definitely all done on the same day, so that has to be it.
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Yo!

I just have to say something that I know you already know (obviously!) but that I’ve completely caught onto from one of the recent contestants on Andi’s season of the Bachelorette. So to keep this as anonymous as possible – I live in the central PA region – and I watch ABC 27 news with Ali Lanyon every morning. I follow her on Twitter (as I do every news person, weather person etc. in the area) and she loves the Bachelor franchise. We all do – whether we like to admit it or not – it’s trashy TV at it’s finest Quite frankly, I enjoy your website every week more than I do the actual show, but that’s just a #realitysteverave for ya. After Andi’s season was over, Brian (the local Bachelorette contestant) has appeared on the show a few times. That’s obviously his 10 minutes in local celebrity-ville or whatever you want to call it – you’re awesome, we get it. I have just noticed recently an extremely obnoxious occurrence on my Twitter newsfeed from him already trying to make communications with this past season’s bachelor contestants & Ali tweeting trying to “set that up.” It’s just so ridiculous. My point is that you are right once again and when you say, “season’s over – it’s open season on the fresh meat of women from the bachelor” – you weren’t kidding! haha it’s just funny to me. Narcissism at it’s finest folks.

Love your site, keep it up 🙂

Comment: I think Brian hits a lot of them up. He had a thing going with Christy Hansen for a little bit. He loves being in Bachelor Nation. I think we can expect him on BIP 2 this season.
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Thanks for another great spoiler season! As so many have said before, I wouldn’t watch the show if it weren’t for you. You bring the laughs and keep us all based in reality (There is an oxymoron for you!). My question is: Why don’t they start showing Episode 1 while they are still filming the show? i.e. Why wait until well after filming is over to begin airing episodes? Then they could do a live proposal show a month or so after filming actually ended. I know, I know, why mess with something that works. But still…

Comment: Because that’s not how TV works. The show has to air on consecutive weeks. DWTS has a set schedule where they are on every Monday night from next week, until the week before the “Bachelorette” premiere. It’s the way it’s gone for the last 5 years or so. Jillian’s season was the last season where the first episode aired while they were still filming. But the way the schedule is now, the show has just been done filming before they go to air. Although I will say, with this season of the “Bachelorette” ending somewhere between May 8th and May 10th roughly, and the premiere being on the 18th, it’s a quicker turn around than we’ve seen Jillian’s season I’m pretty sure. I don’t have all the premiere dates memorized but it’s usually been after the 20th when the show has started recently.
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Hi Steve,

I know the guys are the ones who will choose between Britt or Kaitlyn, but I think producers will “stack the deck” in favor of Kaitlyn, because that seems to be the one that their key demo wants to watch (like you always say, when it comes down to it, ratings trump everything else). When Chris Harrison asked “Kaitlyn or Britt?” at the AFTR, the overwhelming majority seemed to be in favor of Kaitlyn; also, if you look on Twitter, Kaitlyn has about 60,000 more followers than Britt. I know these are petty examples, but I can’t imagine the producers aren’t paying attention to this stuff. At the end of the day, however, I agree with your point that people will watch regardless of who is chosen (and I highly doubt that the few who will “refuse to watch” if their favorite isn’t picked will make a dent in the ratings results).

What’s more interesting to me is this illusion of choice in the first place. Ultimately, the producers are the ones who decide what we get to see–the opinions we form about who we like/dislike is based entirely off of the edit that these people receive. That’s why I also think it’s funny when they pretend to ask for (or care about) people’s opinions when it comes to choosing the next Bachelor or Bachelorette. They edit these people to guide us in a certain direction, and while these edits could be somewhat true to their actual personalities, we’ve also seen plenty of cases where they turn seemingly nice people (e.g., Michelle Money and Courtney Robertson) into “villains” to add drama and spark controversy. Oftentimes, the Bachelor/Bachelorette is chosen because they’re a fan favorite, but they’re favorites because we’re seeing the side that producers want us to see.

That’s what makes the Britt situation really interesting to me–we usually don’t see contestants get the “Bachelorette edit” until later in the show (which kind of makes sense, because that makes it easier to position them as the “victim” when they get eliminated). With Britt, though, it was pretty much the opposite–I feel like they positioned her as a serious Bachelorette contender from the very beginning, and then around week five, things started to go downhill. I’m not sure why they chose to do this (maybe they had to establish some uncertainty around her “character” so that her mini-tantrum in Iowa didn’t look like it was coming out of nowhere). Then, you have Kaitlyn, who came across as really hard and “in your face” in the beginning, and while I think she’s hilarious, I’m sure her crude humor didn’t sit so well with the more conservative viewers. I think the producers probably realized that they’d catch heat for picking one or the other, so they just decided to leave it up to the guys. Plus, to your point, the unconventional format will help spark interest after Andi’s season got such bad ratings.

Bottom line/whatever the reason, viewers are crazy if they think that the producers/ABC are seriously considering what they want (especially since they basically told us what we should want in the first place).

You’re awesome! Thanks for another great season.

Comment: I agree. After that first episode, everything was about Britt. She stole the first episode from how much screen time she got. And knowing she didn’t win, it was just like, “Oh ok. She’s totally gonna be the Bachelorette.” Then the dynamic changed. Maybe more than the show thought it would. I mean, they knew they had footage of the girls not liking Britt and Britt sabotaging herself in Des Moines after not getting the group date rose. They couldn’t NOT show it. But once they did, then the WTA happened and they still went after her, it was tough to come back from.

But Britt’s aware of the perception of her. In this interview with People, she specifically says she’s the first girl to ever be in position to be the “Bachelorette” that was “controversial.” It’s true.
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Hello RS,

Kudos to you, once again your spoilers came true! (I never doubted you)

The last two things I want to say about this Bachelor season:

-I really respect Becca for staying real throughout the experience and not pretending or convincing herself that she was absolutely in love with Chris just so she would get the rose. Everything she was saying made absolute sense, about starting out long distance and letting the relationship grow. I mean, she’s known the guy for 2 months and hasn’t spent that much time with him. Plus in this case, she knows if he proposes it’s a package deal with the farm and Arlington non negotiable. Obviously, this kind of reasonable thinking is not at all what is expected on the show, and I think she realized that she probably shouldn’t have been on it in the first place. And she pretty much said that in her post season conference call.

-As for Whitney, well she seems sincere and she and Chris both seem happy. It’s just that she has such a controlling personality, I wonder how she’ll get along with her new inlaws (parents and sisters) once the honeymoon phase is over. Chris might be in for a rude awakening as well once she takes over his place!

So the big Bachelorette announcement…ouch, what an awkward moment it was! It’s clear that both Britt and Kaitlin are not happy with this situation, but are making the best of it. When they should have been beaming and giving the “I can’t wait for this new adventure to start” speech, they just had nothing to say at all! Kaitlin was trying to be funny as usual but it was really painful to watch.

I don’t know if you saw it too, but Chris H. only had eyes for Britt and barely talked to Kaitlin.

Also, I felt that Britt had this attitude like she was always going to be the Bachelorette, but she’s being a good sport and letting Kaitlin join her on the first day until the guys eliminate her and this all nonsense is over with…

And let’s be honest, all she needs to do is give each guy a nice big hug like she did with Chris S on the first night and Bob’s your uncle.

Please keep us posted on what you find out!

Take care.

Comment: Will Britt cry before the first limo of guys even pulls up?
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Steve.

Love your recap each season. Is it just me or is there a total difference in Whitney from the season. During the season she was over the top all about chris and wanting to be the one. However now that they are doing the interview circuit she’s just kind of ho hum about everything and not over the moon about this guy. I was doubting your opinion about their inevitable breakup but know it seems like a sure bet in Vegas..maybe you can put some money down on it when your there next.

Thanks for all you do

Comment: I guess you can look at either way. I’ve had people say they look ridiculously happy together in interviews since. I don’t really pay much attention to what they say now because it’s their first experience talking together as a couple. They’re saying exactly what the previous 18 couples before them pretty much said. “We’re in love,” “we can’t wait to just be normal,” “we’re taking it slow” etc. Same ol’, same ol’.
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Hi Steve!

On the After the Final Rose show, we learned that Chris and Whitney secretly got together in Arlington several times and were being “rule breakers.” My question is…..Are these rendezvous really unknown to the producers, or do the producers know about them or even arrange them? Chris Harrison obviously knew about them by bringing them up on the show. Thanks!

Comment: We know it’s happened with other couples, and I guess they realize they can’t control everything that happens. I’m sure they tell them now, “Look, if you are gonna have a secret meet up, just be sure you take every precaution necessary that you won’t be seen.” And I think most do since we know of 3 recent couples that met up “secretly” and that’s Ben and Courtney, Sean and Catherine, and Andi and Josh. Did those ever get spoiled publicly? No.
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Hey Steve,

First of all… I’ll be the first to admit that I was a little worried this season about whether your reveal would be correct or not, but you did it again! Although I’m sad for Chris that he has to listen to Whitney’s voice for… well, the next 2 months that she lasts in Arlington. Although they kind of sound like chipmunks together – she when she talks and he when laughs. Am I right? Can I get an “amen?”

But what I really want to ask you about is Ashley S. I still think home girl has a little crazy in her, but I love her. And I love that she gave a big “screw it” back to the producers.

However, what do you think she’ll do on BIP? Do you think we’ll get to see the “real” Ashley or do you think she’ll be forced to/choose to keep up the persona? Like I said, I feel like there might be some crazy in there naturally, but in a brilliant kind of way.

Comment: I think that’s why they want to cast her for it since they know people will tune in to see exactly how she handles herself. Obviously by that interview I posted with the Auburn school newspaper on Tuesday, she’s not nearly how she came across on TV.
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Hi Steve,

What are the top five seasons (Bachelor & Bachelorette) in terms of ratings/viewers? I’m assuming #1 is Emily’s season?

Thanks,

Comment: That I don’t know off the top of my head, nor do I want to go look for it because you’d have to Google each season separately. Could take a while.
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Hi Steve,

Love your blog! Congratulations on another successful season!

I am sure you heard that Andi moved to NYC. I get it she wants a fresh start. Do you have any more info on what she is doing there? From her Twitter I see she is in touch with Sharleen who is in NYC as well. All I heard was fresh start and no real plans as of yet.

Also, just wanted to share with you. A while ago I made a mistake by subscribing to Sean Lowe’s blog Patheos. Well, I’ve been trying to unsubscribe from it for months now. Every time I hit the “unsubscribe” button, a message comes up that my email was successfully unsubscribed. But those Patheos’ emails still keep showing up in my mailbox (now spam) regularly. Just ridiculous.

Thanks for everything you do!

Comment: So basically Sean’s site is no different than any other site that you try and unsubscribe from?
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Hi Steve!

I started reading your spoilers a couple of seasons ago and now I can’t NOT read them before each season. I really enjoy it and want to say congrats on spoiling another season correctly!

Questions that I have for you:

1. I see that you say you think Chris and Whitney will only last for 3 months max. I agree and have hesitations about their relationship lasting but was wondering if your opinion was based off information that you are privy to that the rest of America isn’t or it’s just your opinion as an “average” viewer? I just don’t see her fitting into that lifestyle, and I think Chris is not exactly who he’s portrayed himself to be on TV. I think he’s kinda loving the attention he’s gotten from this show and that’s not a good thing.

2. Which girls from this season do you see going on Bachelor in Paradise? My guess would be both of the Ashley’s, Carly, Jade, and maybe Jillian. I can see a lot of them on there. Don’t forget the Kaitlyn/Britt loser, Samantha, and a couple others I’m forgetting right now. Oh yeah, Megan. She’d do it even if she was still with Dak. She’d probably create a break up just so she could then go back to him when it’s over.

3. Which contestants from previous seasons do you see returning to Bachelor in Paradise? I have no idea at this point.

4. I think the ratings for the new Bachelorette season premiere will be off the charts because everyone will be curious to see who gets to continue on for the entire season. Depending on who gets selected to go on, do you think the ratings will drop off after that? Of course some people will watch no matter what but many people feel really strongly about one woman vs. the other (I am team Kaitlyn btw). I need to go look at ratings for each of the last 3 or 4 seasons. I’ll make it a job to have those numbers for you by the time May 18th rolls around.

5. I have seen numerous tweets and posts from previous season contestants like Molly, JP, Sean, Catherine, Des, Jillian (just to name a few) that are team Kaitlyn and really don’t like the idea of the duel Bachelorettes. Producers must know that some of these people have a pretty big fan base in the Bachelor world (Sean has 1/2 million Twitter followers) and let’s be honest, we know production will have a HUGE part in deciding which of the 2 girls will get to continue on. Do you think production takes any of the previous season contestants opinions into consideration? Yes.

6. Do you think Jimmy Kimmel will have a part in next season? I really enjoyed him being on the show and hope he comes back. As far as being in an episode? Probably not. Don’t think they’d do that in back-to-back seasons. But you never know.

7. I went back and read Britt’s bio and can sum up why people don’t like Britt and feel like she’s not authentic and why people relate to Kaitlyn better. Britt’s bio: What is your greatest achievement to date? “The children I sponsor are my most proud achievement. I am happy to put my money toward giving them a better life.”

Steve, I volunteer my time and money on a monthly basis to help a program which supports children with cancer but I would NEVER use their pain to glorify myself. If she was truly involved selflessly in an organization I think she would do a lot more than donate some money. And I am not saying that everyone that donates money isn’t good enough (because it’s great!), but don’t glorify yourself and your contributions when you don’t deserve it. Kaitlyn on the other hand answers what is your greatest achievement to date with “getting a dance scholarship and moving out of my small town for it.” A real, authentic, and relatable answer.

Thanks for all the spoilers!

Comment: Good point about Britt’s answer. Sounds incredibly self absorbed.

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  1. mush

    March 12, 2015 at 10:46 AM

    about britt being bachelorette, i just dont see why any guy who watched the show would want her. besides all the crying, its the the bitchy caddy judgemental attitude toward chris soules for being on a date with kaityln who skinny dipped. remember how she chastized him for “rewarding inappropriate behaviour”? why would any guy want to get involved in that? britt even tried to make chris feel bad for that date by saying other girls in the house are questioning his intentions. what a bitch! why wouldnt a guy want to skinny dip, tell jokes, make out, laugh, make out and have a good time?

  2. mush

    March 12, 2015 at 10:53 AM

    to see the real Ashley S watch the interview michelle money did with her, ashely i, jillian and samantha on michellemoney’s youtube. shes just a silly person, uncomfortable in front of the cameras.

  3. angelfish

    March 12, 2015 at 11:58 AM

    Regarding the letter from the friend of “Lacy”, her mom needs to take a beat and stop watching True Crime TV shows. The Asian fiance’ can’t just whisk her out of the country without warning. That’s called kidnapping. And Lacy would also need both a valid passport and a Visa to leave the country, neither of which can’t be gotten instantly.

    Lacy sounds like a flake and honestly mom should be more worried about the state of her daughter’s mental health than the fiance’s vague plans.

  4. olestinker

    March 12, 2015 at 12:20 PM

    Alright Britt, time to lay some signature “just long enough so that he thinks i totally want to sleep with him” hugs on 13 guys.

  5. Amanda

    March 12, 2015 at 12:25 PM

    It sounds like the people who are so concerned about “Lacy” are racist/xenophobic and are trying to couch it as a legitimate concern.

    For the woman who lost 100 lbs: don’t be so hard on yourself. Most women do not have perfect naked bodies. Have you ever even seen any “real” naked female bodies (i.e. not strippers or porn stars)? Good on you for loving yourself enough to lose the weight. Be proud of that! If you feel like you need to warn people, go right ahead, but I’m sure you’re your harshest critic.

    Being an attractive woman who is single and looking is a double-edged sword at times. Yes, it’s easier to attract men, but you also attract men who only really like you because they think you’re pretty/hot/whatever and then you have to weed them out because you can’t base an entire meaningful relationship on that.

  6. angelfish

    March 12, 2015 at 12:30 PM

    Good point Amanda, about the “concern” for Lacy. Obviously she’s an adult, but mom doesn’t seem to trust her decision on whom to marry. Definitely sounds like the Asian part is key or else the letter writer wouldn’t have even mentioned it. “Damn furriners a’comin’ here to steal our wimmenfolk!”

  7. rob22

    March 12, 2015 at 1:56 PM

    I think the whole “I won’t watch The Bachelor if it’s Britt/Kaitlyn” is hysterical… especially the idea that it will impact ratings. Anyone that is that cray-cray that they’d not watch the show because the wrong Bachelorette gets picked (and I suppose they’ll hold their breath until they turn blue too) lives on the show’s lunatic fringe. Yeah, I get that they’re out there, but it’s a small, small percentage. I think most of the comments we read like that are just venting from people who have a preference. But people who will actually follow through and not watch the show?? That’s a Tiny percentage of nut bags. Not even worth mentioning. Don’t forget, 25,000 nut bags (and I doubt it’s that many) don’t even move the needle when you’re talking about viewership of 7M. That’s like 1/3 of a percent. That stuff makes me laugh.

    Now if people tune in and it’s a snoozer, and people don’t buy in & get invested in any of the contestants or the Bachelorette, then THAT could impact ratings. The Bachelorette has had an incredible run. But some day they’ll miss and it will be the beginning of the end. It’s hard to imagine, though, because you’d think a season like Juan Pah-Blow, and obvious tool with zero serious interest in the girls or even feigning interest, would have tanked & it didn’t.

  8. mush

    March 12, 2015 at 2:12 PM

    i didnt watch because it was andi. im a nut bag. can we not insult each other? but i guess thats the kind of audience this show brings.

  9. mush

    March 12, 2015 at 2:15 PM

    also, dont forget something very important. how we watch tv has changed. i come here for the dialogue, i go to steve for spoilers. i go to ihategreenbeans for the funny commentary. i dont watch the show, only but some clips that the producers upload to their youtube channel (which is gone, btw). i cant be alone in “watching” the show like this. and i see this way of “watching” growing.

  10. elizabeth82

    March 12, 2015 at 2:21 PM

    @rob22, I’m not on the show’s lunatic fringe and I boycotted seasons of “The Bachelor”: Brad 2.0 because been there done that and dude needed therapy not another season of this show, and these because I didn’t like them from when they were on “The Bachelorette”: Jason, Jake, and Juan Pablo. I’d do the same for Britt: this show’s a big time commitment and there are too many good books out there to watch a lead of this show that I don’t like. Just sayin. (And it’s kinda like voting–it may mean nothing, or maybe it’ll make a difference.)

  11. angelfish

    March 12, 2015 at 2:49 PM

    “Boycotting” the show and then going on message boards to proclaim your stance, always has the ring of “I’m so much better than you because I won’t lower myself to watch such trash/crying girls/boring guy”.

    Why bother even talking about it or reading about it if it’s beneath you? If you come here to comment, SOMETHING about it attracts you.

    It’s like proclaiming you don’t eat chocolate, but you greedily lick the wrapper.

  12. fcew

    March 12, 2015 at 3:00 PM

    What elizabeth82 said. I only started watching because I heard that Juan Pablo was a d-bag, and got dumped by three girls, which apparently is a lot for the Bachelor franchise. I hadn’t watched since Trista went on The Bachelorette. I watched Andi, but didnt find her very interesting, but I liked Chris. So I watched his season. I’m invested enough in Kaitlyn and her story (plus I think she is hysterical) to watch her show, but I will vote with my viewing if Britt is on – my husband would be super relieved to hear that I wasn’t watching this next season and am giving the franchise a break. I’m not doing it to be vindictive, I’m doing it because I don’t give two poos about Britt or her character finding “lurve”. I’d rather watch paint dry.

  13. vessel

    March 12, 2015 at 3:48 PM

    Yeah I agree that many people pick and choose who they watch based on if they like them or think they’ll be interesting. The only lunatics are the ones who proclaim “I won’t be watching if ______ is cast!” on social media actually believing ABC cares and might be influenced by this. I know they’re not. And yeah it’s doubtful I’ll watch if it’s Britt. I’ll still read here and I Hate Greenbeans, etc. but why watch someone who irritates you two hours every week? I slogged through Desiree’s season and wished I hadn’t wasted my time. Why make that mistake again unless the lead is someone likable to me? I might change my mind if I read that it’s a really good season despite her, though. We shall see.

  14. keddo

    March 12, 2015 at 3:55 PM

    Former Fat Friend,
    What about a swimming/beach/boating date of some kind early in your relationship where you wear a swim suit that doesn’t hide what he might “need” to see. He can make an informed decision before feelings get too strong, and you might get a good indication just from his body language where his mind might be and either be able to open yourself up more to him, or brace for the brush-off.
    Another thing I would suggest is to keep an open mind when it comes to the men you choose to date. I am sure that there are just as many excellent guys out there who can check off all your boxes except for some equally superficial thing, such as age, height, or hair loss that becomes far less important once you get to know them.

  15. justforfun

    March 12, 2015 at 4:25 PM

    @vessel, completely agree. I was so bored watching Des’s season that I tuned out until the very end. I will watch the bachelor no matter who it is because the women bring the entertainment & drama. Not the case with the men on the Bachelorette. I won’t be boycotting the show if Britt is chosen, will just choose not to watch. I don’t think that makes me lunatic fringe for not watching someone I find extremely annoying.

  16. jay2

    March 12, 2015 at 6:35 PM

    @ Confused in Miami: so glad to hear that you are moving on. I know it’s really, really hard, particularly because you were head over heels with him. My advice: be kind to yourself, allow yourself to mourn/grieve the end of the relationship so that you are ready to put it in your past and move forward with someone else. He may divorce and look for you in the near future, you never know, but if that happens, at least he didn’t divorce because of you, otherwise he will forever bring it up during fights. You deserve a single man who is for you and only for you, you will find him.
    Google how to get over a breakup/mend a broken heart, there are plenty of links from psychology magazines, etc and I think they are pretty good. They will tell you to do things that you used enjoy and they have suggestions on how to go through this process. Good luck!

  17. loquacious39

    March 12, 2015 at 7:58 PM

    Like I mentioned earlier, I wish we didn’t have Bachelorette shows. Men are infinitely more interesting The only season I liked was Trista’s. These people profess to boycott a season with Britt but they sure tuned in every week to see what she would do next. Kaitlin is as boring as Andi was.

  18. cjscjs711

    March 12, 2015 at 8:21 PM

    Kaitlyn’s supporters have reason to be upset – they thought their girl had it in the bag, then ABC threw this curve. And so they express their complaints. Now their candidate could lose!

    Britt’s supporters are not so upset! Their girl is getting a chance. Not so motivated to write.

    How many times did we read, “If they choose Chris instead of Arie, I won’t watch!” How many times and how vehemently? A lot. These are threats and they apparently don’t matter. No matter who is chosen, a LOT of people will be upset. And look at Chris’ season – it was the women who ‘made’ the season. Him, his personality, barely at all.

    Why would there be weeks filled with crying if Britt were Bachelorette? If someone hurts Britt’s feelings, she can just send him home. There will be no other women there to act like they’re her friends to her face, then try to sabotage her behind her back. She’ll be the ONLY woman after night one.

    She cried more about the women’s duplicity toward her than losing Chris. I felt for her. In most cases, it was Chris the women had an issue with but unlike her, they did not confront him with it. Instead, they showed their hostility not to him but to her. When Britt had an issue with Chris about Kaitlyn taking her bottoms off, she went to him about it. Knowing it was a risk.

    She had trouble with the format. She said it at least twice: Chris would seem to have a deep connection with her, then turn to someone else and connect with her. First time she said it to him was on that first night of extreme girl-kissing/saliva swapping by Chris. It was not realistic on her part to think he could keep giving the rose on group dates to her, given the show’s requirement to string everyone along for the ride for as long as possible.

    I’ll watch either way, but my first impression was to like Britt and thinking about it overall, I still do. Kaitlyn is the non-threatening, gal pal, but not even very romantic and pretty guarded with her feelings, unless it’s humor. Do I look forward to a season of her over-done laughing at off-color jokes and remarks (ala Jimmy Kimmel’s)? NO. I’d rather watch Britt, but I’ll be there either way…

  19. momma3j

    March 12, 2015 at 8:27 PM

    I still stand by what I said on a different post: if Britt is cast as the lead, i will not watch this season. Like others said above, why would I waste two hours every Monday to watch someone I can’t stand? I have ended friendships IRL with people whose personality clashes with mine. I certainly won’t be “entertained” by a total stranger for an entire season that falls in the category of a toxic individual. @rob22, it actually would make me a nut bag for subjecting myself to the torture, not staying away from it. duh

  20. allusernamestaken

    March 12, 2015 at 10:36 PM

    i don’t know why Steve Carbone has a hard on for britt… on wait, i do.. that is why he is single! i love his blog and commentary, but honestly, every season he seems to like a certain type. It is not a big deal, but he needs to realize that maybe if he found a different type of girl he wouldn’t be 40 and single. Kaitlyn is hilarious and my husband and I always find her the best. I actually don’t find Britt attractive in the slightest. Her head is too big, weird body, boring personality and too hippiesh for me. She does have great hair, so +6 on that!!! Good luck Steve, but I think many people will agree with me that Kaitlyn is petite, but with muscle. Pretty face, great personality… her hair may not be the best, but her style is on point!
    have fun at your 40th and I wish you luck as you enter the next 10years of your life. You say you are into sports and watch basketball/football yet you are not into the type of girl that you can kick it with!

  21. justforfun

    March 12, 2015 at 10:53 PM

    I do find the posters here to be a rational group, able to calmly state their views without attacking others that don’t feel the same way. There are some real nut job rabid fans on twitter & instagram. Yikes!
    I just watched Kimmel, and while interviewing Sean Penn, Sean admitted to being a bachelor fan, and he is team Kaitlyn! 🙂
    I have a feeling Kaitlyn will get the gig. The producers would be crazy not to go with the one *most* of the fans want. I guess we will know soon.

  22. bachfan30

    March 13, 2015 at 3:38 AM

    Loved when Sean Penn stated he was #teamkaitlyn!!!

  23. beebifidum

    March 13, 2015 at 4:32 AM

    As a guy, my perspective is that Britt seems to ‘not have grown up’ emotionally because its clear that she thinks its acceptable to either throw a hissy fit or cry every time something goes wrong in her life.

    This is a Big Red Flag for nearly every guy out there who is really looking for a long term partner.

    The only way that I think the new Bachelorette season’s guys might choose Britt over Kaitlyn is if (1) they didn’t watch the WTA or the last episode that Britt was on to get an idea of what she can be like when she’s not happy, (2) they are just on the show to promote themselves and have no interest in finding anyone for a LTR so they might as well pick the woman who flirts better, (3) they’re tools who will do whatever they’re told to do by the producers, and are told to pick Britt.

    I don’t think Britt is bad, per se. Its just that somehow she never developed the character to realize when its ok to show you’re upset, and when its better to keep things a bit under wraps even when you’re having a bad time. Imagine the horror this show would have been had there been 25 women who ALL cry as readily as Britt did when she got upset…yikes.

  24. hattiebloom

    March 13, 2015 at 7:17 AM

    Oooooohhhhh Nooooooo @allusernamestaken, be careful what you say about Stevie boy, he’ll block you from posting if you insult him too much.

  25. meredith27

    March 13, 2015 at 7:33 AM

    I’m not sure I understand why people are saying there is so much support for Kaitlyn. I see so much MORE support for Britt! The things people are saying about Britt make for GREAT television and ratings. Regardless of whether you like her or not the show needs her. Kaitlyn will not get good ratings. Do you really think Sean Penn is going to watch the show? HELLO!!!!!!!!

  26. vessel

    March 13, 2015 at 8:19 AM

    There is no way to predict what kind of ratings Kaitlyn, or Britt would get. To make assumptions based on personal preference is really kind of silly.

  27. mush

    March 13, 2015 at 9:52 AM

    guys, dont forget, steve doesnt read these comments. this forum is just for us to discuss. youll have to email him to get his attention. and i think kaitlyn will bring ratings. of course she will. heres a topic for discusion: with all the public support for kaitlyn (anna kendrick, sean penn, sean lowe, etc, etc) and the studio audience at the after the final rose cheering for kaitlyn and even booking britt, how could abc not put kaitlyn in the role. theyll create a very negative feeling in their viewers which theyve never done before a season even started. heres the question. i wonder if abc didnt contractually promise the role to britt (seems obvious after the first episode that she was cast as the next bachelorette) and then try to rescind once they saw her performance on the show and viewer reaction, but couldnt legally. so their way out of having britt is this duel bachelorette idea in which both girls get paid whether they are chosen or not. ill email steve about this too.

  28. hattiebloom

    March 13, 2015 at 10:40 AM

    Trust me @mush…..Steve reads the comments despite what he may claim.

  29. angelfish

    March 13, 2015 at 11:22 AM

    Steve may read the comments, but he’s never blocked any posters, censored or berated anybody for what they put here in the comments section.

    Now mocking and insulting the emails he gets is a different story. One of the reasons I’m a huge fan!

  30. vessel

    March 13, 2015 at 11:39 AM

    @Mush it’s an interesting idea, please definitely email Steve. I’d like to hear his opinion on that.

  31. meredith27

    March 13, 2015 at 1:17 PM

    Mush – I tend to think the opposite based on Kaitlyn’s comment “it’s not ideal” and Britt seemed so happy

  32. nesai

    March 13, 2015 at 5:00 PM

    I don’t see the survey with the 25 men credible. The men that are going on the show are looking for wife material. They should interview 25 men that are ready to settle down. As Kaitlyn getting the popularity vote from celebs. I don’t think they are credible either. For example; Ana Kendrick has 375mil followers on tweeter, but only 14k people favorite her tweet for #TeamKaitlyn. That doesn’t represent the whole bachelor nation. Which looking at ratings is about 6-8 million viewers. I feel it’s more like a clique for the Kaitlyn campaign people are just solely agreeing with all these popular people to bash someone.

    I don’t think Britt deserve all that hate. They are both beautiful and strong women. They wouldn’t have signed up for it if they couldn’t handle the rejection or the controversy against them. I hope Britt gets the gig. I want to see if she will be able to represent herself in a better light or see if confirms the judgement people say that she is fake. With more footage of her as the Bachelorette.

    As for Kaitlyn, yeah she’s fun, but that’s all I see fun. I don’t think she can hold her own on the show. Especially with 25 men. With Chris season she only got to where she got due to promise of sexual innuendo. Her comments “you can plow me anytime” and pulling off her bikini bottom only shows the immaturity. I didn’t even know who Kaitlyn was up until she became the final 3. Chris only wanted sex with her in the FS. He didn’t care about her feelings. To take her aside and talk to her like he took Becca aside. Don’t get me wrong I love Kaitlyn style and her joking nature, but I don’t see her falling in love and opening up to the guys.

  33. nesai

    March 13, 2015 at 5:14 PM

    I mean 3.75mil followers*

  34. nesai

    March 13, 2015 at 5:25 PM

    Kaitlyn kind of messed it up for herself. Getting too cocky. Setting up photoshoots to make her look like she’s already bachelorette before the announcement. She seems too entitled to that role which is due to all the press she’s getting for it. I feel Britt was gracious and appreciative for the opportunity. She seems more humble than Kaitlyn. Who’s just spiteful and even bitter. She haven’t moved on and let go of the last season with Chris regarding the stunts Britt pulled when it came to her. Britt needs to be more self aware of her actions, but she did apologize. She’s the type to speak before thinking. Her jumping and cutting people off mid sentence. Doesn’t show maturity either.

  35. mush

    March 13, 2015 at 10:10 PM

    kaitlyn did what the producers told her to do, photoshoots. she tweeted what the producers told her to tweet. people magazine or whoever did the photos tweeted out a pic of her photoshoot. how is any of this kaityn being cocky? so strange. and britt is NOT humble. so many reasons why she isnt, but i just cant bother anymore about britt.

  36. wavecatchingmom

    March 14, 2015 at 8:36 AM

    I know Steve is offline, but does anyone remember the fictional show that is going to be about the bachelor behind the scenes? He posted it a month or so ago, and I can’t comb through posts to find it. I want to make sure and bookmark that – not sure when it is airing. It was about the same time he introduced the DRATCH.

  37. hattiebloom

    March 14, 2015 at 9:18 AM

    @angelfish posted “Steve may read the comments, but he’s never blocked any posters, censored or berated anybody for what they put here in the comments ”

    How would we know if Steve blocks people since they would no longer be able to post? He in fact did block a friend of mine and claimed the only way he knew she was saying rude comments about him was because other readers were “complaining” and his “moderator” pointed it out.

    Regardless of what he says he does…..getting kicked off this site was certainly good for a few laughs.

  38. jacquibk

    March 15, 2015 at 5:59 AM

    Not true at all, I received a personal email from Steve asking me not to post certain things. So, he or his moderator read the post, forwarded it to Steve and I received the “request”. Don’t assume you know everything @angelfish.

  39. hattiebloom

    March 15, 2015 at 3:14 PM

    Steve pretty much has to claim he doesn’t read these comments, otherwise he’d subject himself to questions and answers via the comment board and it would add another layer of communication that he doesn’t want…..understandably.

    Having said that, to think any blogger or Steve doesn’t read the comments is naive. There is no other way to gauge the temperature of your writing or gather feedback on tone. Steve reads these comments….no doubt. And there’s no “moderator” either…..but it does tickle me that he claims there is one.

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