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“Reader Emails (Part 2), “Dr. Reality Steve” Plus News & Notes

Hi Steve! Just wondering if you know if ABC has ever fired employees for suspecting they are your sources? You’d think after so many seasons of spoilers that they would clean house at some point. Just curious

Comment: Not that I know of. But then again, you’re assuming all my spoilers come from ABC employees. I wouldn’t go that far.
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Has ABC ever offered you a contract/money to not spoil the show? I assume no, but I’m curious. No. And they never would because that would essentially mean they’re admitting defeat, and they wouldn’t do that. If it EVER came to that, they would have to offer me more than what I’m making by doing what I do for me to even consider it. It’s just not gonna happen.

Have you confirmed when filming for The Bachelorette starts/started? I think you said Tuesday or Thursday this week so its possible one of the ladies already got the boot.

Thanks.

Comment: Filming starts today. As I said yesterday, I could know within 24 hours. I could know in 3 days. It could be a week. It could be spoiled on social media once dates start on Saturday. Or ABC could even release it. Do not worry. You’re going to know, and you’re going to know sooner rather than later.
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I feel bad for one of the girls kicked off the Bachelorette. First she’s rejected by a one man, then rejected by 25 more. Ouch. Well that’s not true. Read page 1.

You’ve said you don’t know how there could be a way to pull off 2 Bachelorettes. Years ago there was a show on VH1 called Real Chance of Love that had 2 brothers do the exact thing. There should be a way to spice up the tired, old franchise, perhaps they could get some ideas from that old show.

Their summary says “In each episode, the ladies will compete in challenges designed to test for the qualities Chance and Real are looking for in a woman. The winners will go on dates with their man. At the end of each episode, Chance and Real will pick which of the girls each of them would like to continue to date, and send one woman home broken-hearted.”

Comment: But this isn’t MTV and this isn’t “Real Chance of Love.” Britt and Kaitlyn actually have real names that appeared on their birth certificate, not silly made up TV names. You’re comparing apples and oranges.
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Hey Steve,

Read this or not, I’m just writing it to give some fan perspective but in the end, I can’t force you to read anything.

Let me start off by saying I’m not for two bachelorettes for two reasons. One, the two bachelorettes were announced THE DAY after International Women’s Day, and to many, this was a slap to the face of feminism. I understand it is for ratings but for a show were majority of the fan base is female, I think it was an incredibly risky decision. The Bachelorette gives the woman autonomy and they’ve taken that away by letting the men choose who the Bachelorette will be on the FIRST NIGHT. We all know they will choose based on looks and who they would rather sleep with since they won’t have time to get to know Britt or Kaitlyn (unless they watched the Bachelor). It’s insulting as a female because throughout life we constantly compare ourselves to other women and are overwhelmed by society telling us how to look and what beauty is. Overall, every woman at one point believes they are not beautiful enough. Then there are people who say “beauty is on the inside”, which honestly is far more meaningful and truthful yet rarely supported by society. The first night will completely contradict beauty being on the inside and will showcase first hand how women are compared and defined as “wife material” based on looks alone. One woman will be deemed prettier than the other and this is what society constantly brainwashes us to believe. If we are not as beautiful as the woman next to us, then say goodbye to a chance at getting men to notice you. As a marketing major, I understand ratings, believe me I do, but with a massive female fan base, I think they are walking on thin ice. Second, most fans want to see Kaitlyn and don’t like Britt (I know you do but majority do not). I think overall, they’re heading for a decrease in ratings if they aren’t careful. One, because females are sickened by this decision to have Britt and Kaitlyn chosen by the men, and two, because a lot of Kaitlyn fans or non-fans of Britt do not want to see her dramatic season. I know you said people will watch regardless but I think you underestimate morals or fan loyalty. Majority of feminists already find the bachelor disturbing and now many will use this as a reason to quit watching. Additionally, loyalty is huge and many fans are loyal to the bachelor/bachelorette, not the show itself. Just look at ratings for the TV show Reign and you’ll see they’ve plummeted due to Mary and Francis not being together. Fans have been saying they’re going to stop watching until the show fixes it and with ratings decreasing, some are clearly holding true to that. Don’t underestimate the will and loyalty of the people, especially angry females that make up a majority of the fan base.

You wrote recently about how you found it interesting that Kaitlyn dominated one poll and that now Britt is dominating another poll. There is a very simple reason for that. When fans were voting in the previous poll, they had it in their minds there would be only one bachelorette and no competition would be used to decide the next bachelorette. Kaitlyn won by a landslide because she is what MAJORITY of bachelor nation wants to see. I personally LOVE Kaitlyn but I’m not ignorant, I know Britt has a following too. However I’ve been looking closely these past few weeks at social media and fan reactions. If you look during shows, especially after the announcement, MAJORITY of fans were angry Kaitlyn didn’t get the position by herself. #TeamKaitlyn trended on twitter. Britt started trending too but majority of tweets claimed she’s terrible and they won’t watch if she wins. Occasionally there were pro Britt tweets but CLEARLY, the fans wanted Kaitlyn while the producers wanted ratings. With that being said, fans are saying guys are more likely to choose Britt because let’s be honest, it’ll be a popularity competition between the two of them and while I think Kaitlyn is prettier, I think majority of guys will deem Britt as prettier. So in your first poll, yes, I voted Kaitlyn because she seemed the most popular and the most likely to generate ratings. In your second poll, I voted Britt solely because men will go off looks alone and Britt can be very persuasive. I think if you had Bachelor Nation choose between the two, it would easily be Kaitlyn (even based on previous contestant preferences). I know the show can rig it in Kaitlyn’s favor and very well could do that, but part of me believes they want to make a “villain Bachelorette”. I guess we will see.

Lastly, like I said, I was always Team Kaitlyn. I never approved of Britt and it’s not because she’s the prettiest girl in the room but it was because of how she came off. I think Britt is stunningly beautiful and at times has a solid personality, however, something about her bothered me. For two years I was in a mentally abusive relationship where I was constantly manipulated and from fairly early on Britt rubbed me the wrong way. It wasn’t until I saw some of her interactions with Chris that I realized it was because I felt she was manipulative, and having been manipulated myself, I felt like she was saying what Chris wanted to hear and what would make her look good. She’s pretty while being eloquent and meticulous with her words. When she freaked out about Kaitlyn getting a rose on the group date is when I really just did not like her. I get being upset but talk to him one on one, not in front of the other two girls. Understand you still have a shot at getting the rose during the ceremony and naturally, you will not always be first based on past history of the show itself. She became incredibly dramatic after that and when she was saying she would eliminate herself it CAME OFF as her trying to either end it first or to make him beg for her to stay. I do admit, the other girls were pretty harsh on her but at the same time, I understood the point they were trying to make. She cried more than the average person (her and Ashley I. both) and as a woman, I (and I think a lot of females) want a strong female that can roll with the punches and not constantly play the victim like Britt seems to do. This leaves Kaitlyn as the better option (in MY opinion). Additionally, when I saw she was a “waitress in Hollywood” I looked her up on IMDB and of course saw she was in a few minor films. This just made me wonder if she was really there for Chris or did she want to be the Bachelorette to launch her acting career. I believe the latter. During Women Tell All, I admired her for standing up for herself but at the same time I got the impression she was trying to repair her image and campaign for the Bachelorette again. Overall, I just feel Kaitlyn is more genuine and likable and would be a better Bachelorette.

In the end, the producers can absolutely rig the show to go the way they want. I honestly will still be rooting for Kaitlyn but overall, I think there were other ways they could have increased ratings that didn’t sacrifice the feelings of contestants or people watching at home. Rejection by one guy is bad enough but 25 is brutal and by the Bachelor/Bachelorette not caring about feelings, they will run into hot water. Yes we as a society thrive on drama, but we also are a generation of change and no one wants to see a woman being handed to the wolves like the Bachelorette plans on doing to start off the season. Feminism is on the rise, just look at stars like Emma Watson who try to repair the image of feminism and call for men to even get on board. The show should take that into consideration because a LOT of people are upset about pitting women against each other during a show where THEY SHOULD BE in power themselves as well as people are mad that Kaitlyn is being “screwed over” by producers when she was clearly the fan favorite.

Thanks for reading or not, choice is yours.

Comment: This “pitting women against each other” and “sexism” and “being rejected by 25 guys” stuff I really just don’t understand. I’m not seeing that at all. And when both of these women voluntarily agreed to do this, why is the show taking so much heat for it? Either one of these girls could’ve said, “No, I’m not comfortable with this. I’m not doing it.” But they weren’t and they didn’t. So why are we so upset about it when, yeah they might not think it’s ideal, but they still agreed to it?
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Not sure if you can answer this because it could give information on your sources but curious as to why your sources don’t spoil the show themselves, why they feed you information instead. Assuming they are in positions where it could jeopardize their jobs or something.

Also do they get any compensation from you?

Love your site!

PS I saw a question asking which season the winner went first. i believe it was Jesse Palmer’s season because the runner up was on the side of a road throwing up (Tara?)

Comment: I don’t pay my sources. Don’t need to.

What forum would they have to release this info where people would believe it anyway?
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Steve,

Let’s be real, this show hasn’t made it this many seasons because the producers are a bunch of idiots. This Bachelorette^2 move is brilliant. They are leaning toward Kaitlyn, but Britt has a fan base. Kaitlyn’s garnering considerably more support. Andi’s season, if I remember correctly, saw lower ratings than previous seasons. So what do we do?

We ask Britt to come on as a competitor. Britt is building her brand. She’s gorgeous. She’s come to expect that men will fall all over themselves for her, as they have in the past. Of course she will agree to do it; of course she will expect to be chosen by the men. And people will tune in to see how it plays out. When the men choose Kaitlyn, we will have a major Britt Breakdown (some alliteration for you, Steve), and the majority of viewers will be cheering on the new and unusually spunky Bachelorette.

Why would the women agree to do this? Britt is supremely confident that men will choose her over Kaitlyn. And all exposure is good exposure as far as her career aspirations are concerned. But why would Kaitlyn agree? Kaitlyn has been assured that she’ll win. She certainly didn’t, however, seem entirely convinced on ATFR. And her insecurity will draw even more sympathy from viewers.

I’ve seen a number of reporters and viewers commenting on Harrison’s affection for Britt. But in his TV Guide interview, he says “[he] loved it” when the audience booed Britt. They owe her no loyalty. She’s money. Period. And if they can make money off of further humiliating her, they will do it.

And for the record, I despise when people speculate and predict the season with a ridiculous authoritative voice. But this scenario seems on par with the skeezy manipulations of producers past.

Comment: Interesting theory.
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Hi Steve,

I know you’ve shared details about the casting timeline, and so it bothers me every time I hear a contestant say things like, “I’m only on the show because it’s you,” or, like in the case of Whitney, she said something along the lines of (paraphrased) ‘My friends and I were watching the show and they all thought Chris would be a great match for me so when I heard he was going to be the next Bachelor I decided to apply.’ Is this just a complete lie? Didn’t she have to apply to be a contestant long before the new Bachelor was announced or even under consideration? Do they ever add cast members after the Bachelor (ette) is announced, or do cast members ever find out who it is and then remove themselves from the show? Now I’m thinking about the Britt/Kaitlyn situation. Have the upcoming cast members been told yet who the two Bachelorettes are? Have they been able to watch the show if they’re being sequestered now? I’m curious as to how it all works since I always notice when it’s mentions and the obvious falseness annoys me (of course much of it is false, but still). What insights can you share?

Clearly continuously confused

Comment: A lot of questions in there.

Whitney was obviously in the casting process before Chris was selected. She was going through it as Andi’s season was airing, so she could see it was possible it could be him. And yes, she could’ve pulled out if they decided they didn’t want Chris.

They’ve only done the early announcement a few times. Emily was announced in January, 2 months before her filming started. Juan Pablo was announced on Des’ ATFR in August, so about 6 weeks before he started filming. All the other ones are announced right around the time filming begins.

I’m sure all the guys this season will know tonight going in they’ll be voting. But it’s not like they knew 2 weeks ago. They all found out Monday if they read my blog earlier in that day, or by Monday night, when it became official.
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Hi RS,

Your site is the most consistently entertaining thing I read! It really helps me get through some long days!

I understand this might not get posted, since the season has ended, but in hearing opinions about whether or not Chris and Whitney will last, I think a couple things have been overlooked. There has been a lot of talk about how awful Arlington is. While it probably isn’t the right place for the fame-hungry women on the show, a lot of people would happily move to an area like that if it meant they’d have a happy home life and financial security. It’s also been mentioned that it would be tough giving up a job to move to a new place.

I think there is a bigger issue that spells “doom” for these two. It’s obvious there are huge relationship inequalities, way more than for most of these TV couples, that would leave most women uncomfortable, if not seething.

1. Obviously, the lead has a lot of power over the women throughout the show. If a woman talks back to him, it is likely that she will go home and get humiliated on national television. That sets up a pretty unequal relationship.

2. On top of that, Chris is asking a hell of a lot from a woman he barely knows: to leave her home, family and friends, give up their job to move to an area with little opportunity. Most importantly, she will have to give up some of her financial security. Whitney even mentioned becoming a full-time mom. Do you really think Chris is ready to start sharing his checking account with a woman he’s only known for several months? That is a difficult dynamic.

3. From what he said on the show, he plans to keep his current home. That means Whitney will move into his home, where he has his routine and way of doing things. She will have to conform again.

4. This guy just has to live in Arlington in his house with his current job, which is why Whitney has to sacrifice so much. But, now he’s decided to up-and-move to LA for a new TV show. Once again, Whitney will have to tag along as Chris does what he wishes.

So, yeah, the move to Arlington will be difficult, but that’s not the problem. Any woman in her right mind would point out these inequalities, and it does not look like Chris deals with conflict well. This arrangement might work with a well-established couple with a lot of trust, but this is too forced of a situation for that. I give it 5 or 6 months, depending on how long they fake it. I had to write in, because I saw a poll where the majority of people said they thought they would last.

Go on with your bad self!

Comment: All very good points. There’s a reason this show is 1-for-19 in producing marriages from the lead and the final girl he chose.
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I think ABC does “Payoffs” (for lack of a better term) sometimes. Carly really did look the “mean girl” to Britt. Of course ABC used it to their advantage climaxing with the scene of Britt crying and wailing outside the night she left with Chris & the others listening inside. You know ABC feels bad about some of that stuff. So they let Britt have her turn, made room for her too. I am Team Britt, BTW. But the fans wanted Kaitlyn and I think ABC wanted Britt purely for ratings, financial reasons, but ABC didn’t want to upset the fans and NOT pick Kaitlyn. (Becca would have been the best choice, really.) So there you go 2 bachelorettes. ABC does walk a fine line trying to keep everyone happy. Remember Ashley’s season with JP. Do you remember how many guys left ON THEIR OWN?? I thought it was really embarrassing. That show really is crazy… crazy good!

Comment: I guess that’s one way to look at it.
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Hi Steve,

I kind of get the feeling that producers have another twist up their sleeves. Do you think maybe producers planned to do the Jay/Byron format but decided against it because of the “anti-femenist/misogynistic” backlash?

Thanks!

Comment: It doesn’t seem like they’re gonna change their mind, but we’ll know shortly.
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Steve,

Thought you might enjoy this conversation I had on Twitter. This person created their account Tuesday morning. First time I’ve encountered the crazy people you deal with on a daily basis. Holy cow. ????????

TwitterConvo

From a long time reader

Comment: Unfortunately, it’s the world we live in. Social media can be a hell of a place sometimes, can’t it? That person obviously has social issues and can say all that with zero repercussions. They’re just a troll. Unfortunately there’s stuff that’s a gazillion times worse than that that’s said every day on Twitter. Be thankful that was as tame as it was. Sad.

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  1. mush

    March 12, 2015 at 10:46 AM

    about britt being bachelorette, i just dont see why any guy who watched the show would want her. besides all the crying, its the the bitchy caddy judgemental attitude toward chris soules for being on a date with kaityln who skinny dipped. remember how she chastized him for “rewarding inappropriate behaviour”? why would any guy want to get involved in that? britt even tried to make chris feel bad for that date by saying other girls in the house are questioning his intentions. what a bitch! why wouldnt a guy want to skinny dip, tell jokes, make out, laugh, make out and have a good time?

  2. mush

    March 12, 2015 at 10:53 AM

    to see the real Ashley S watch the interview michelle money did with her, ashely i, jillian and samantha on michellemoney’s youtube. shes just a silly person, uncomfortable in front of the cameras.

  3. angelfish

    March 12, 2015 at 11:58 AM

    Regarding the letter from the friend of “Lacy”, her mom needs to take a beat and stop watching True Crime TV shows. The Asian fiance’ can’t just whisk her out of the country without warning. That’s called kidnapping. And Lacy would also need both a valid passport and a Visa to leave the country, neither of which can’t be gotten instantly.

    Lacy sounds like a flake and honestly mom should be more worried about the state of her daughter’s mental health than the fiance’s vague plans.

  4. olestinker

    March 12, 2015 at 12:20 PM

    Alright Britt, time to lay some signature “just long enough so that he thinks i totally want to sleep with him” hugs on 13 guys.

  5. Amanda

    March 12, 2015 at 12:25 PM

    It sounds like the people who are so concerned about “Lacy” are racist/xenophobic and are trying to couch it as a legitimate concern.

    For the woman who lost 100 lbs: don’t be so hard on yourself. Most women do not have perfect naked bodies. Have you ever even seen any “real” naked female bodies (i.e. not strippers or porn stars)? Good on you for loving yourself enough to lose the weight. Be proud of that! If you feel like you need to warn people, go right ahead, but I’m sure you’re your harshest critic.

    Being an attractive woman who is single and looking is a double-edged sword at times. Yes, it’s easier to attract men, but you also attract men who only really like you because they think you’re pretty/hot/whatever and then you have to weed them out because you can’t base an entire meaningful relationship on that.

  6. angelfish

    March 12, 2015 at 12:30 PM

    Good point Amanda, about the “concern” for Lacy. Obviously she’s an adult, but mom doesn’t seem to trust her decision on whom to marry. Definitely sounds like the Asian part is key or else the letter writer wouldn’t have even mentioned it. “Damn furriners a’comin’ here to steal our wimmenfolk!”

  7. rob22

    March 12, 2015 at 1:56 PM

    I think the whole “I won’t watch The Bachelor if it’s Britt/Kaitlyn” is hysterical… especially the idea that it will impact ratings. Anyone that is that cray-cray that they’d not watch the show because the wrong Bachelorette gets picked (and I suppose they’ll hold their breath until they turn blue too) lives on the show’s lunatic fringe. Yeah, I get that they’re out there, but it’s a small, small percentage. I think most of the comments we read like that are just venting from people who have a preference. But people who will actually follow through and not watch the show?? That’s a Tiny percentage of nut bags. Not even worth mentioning. Don’t forget, 25,000 nut bags (and I doubt it’s that many) don’t even move the needle when you’re talking about viewership of 7M. That’s like 1/3 of a percent. That stuff makes me laugh.

    Now if people tune in and it’s a snoozer, and people don’t buy in & get invested in any of the contestants or the Bachelorette, then THAT could impact ratings. The Bachelorette has had an incredible run. But some day they’ll miss and it will be the beginning of the end. It’s hard to imagine, though, because you’d think a season like Juan Pah-Blow, and obvious tool with zero serious interest in the girls or even feigning interest, would have tanked & it didn’t.

  8. mush

    March 12, 2015 at 2:12 PM

    i didnt watch because it was andi. im a nut bag. can we not insult each other? but i guess thats the kind of audience this show brings.

  9. mush

    March 12, 2015 at 2:15 PM

    also, dont forget something very important. how we watch tv has changed. i come here for the dialogue, i go to steve for spoilers. i go to ihategreenbeans for the funny commentary. i dont watch the show, only but some clips that the producers upload to their youtube channel (which is gone, btw). i cant be alone in “watching” the show like this. and i see this way of “watching” growing.

  10. elizabeth82

    March 12, 2015 at 2:21 PM

    @rob22, I’m not on the show’s lunatic fringe and I boycotted seasons of “The Bachelor”: Brad 2.0 because been there done that and dude needed therapy not another season of this show, and these because I didn’t like them from when they were on “The Bachelorette”: Jason, Jake, and Juan Pablo. I’d do the same for Britt: this show’s a big time commitment and there are too many good books out there to watch a lead of this show that I don’t like. Just sayin. (And it’s kinda like voting–it may mean nothing, or maybe it’ll make a difference.)

  11. angelfish

    March 12, 2015 at 2:49 PM

    “Boycotting” the show and then going on message boards to proclaim your stance, always has the ring of “I’m so much better than you because I won’t lower myself to watch such trash/crying girls/boring guy”.

    Why bother even talking about it or reading about it if it’s beneath you? If you come here to comment, SOMETHING about it attracts you.

    It’s like proclaiming you don’t eat chocolate, but you greedily lick the wrapper.

  12. fcew

    March 12, 2015 at 3:00 PM

    What elizabeth82 said. I only started watching because I heard that Juan Pablo was a d-bag, and got dumped by three girls, which apparently is a lot for the Bachelor franchise. I hadn’t watched since Trista went on The Bachelorette. I watched Andi, but didnt find her very interesting, but I liked Chris. So I watched his season. I’m invested enough in Kaitlyn and her story (plus I think she is hysterical) to watch her show, but I will vote with my viewing if Britt is on – my husband would be super relieved to hear that I wasn’t watching this next season and am giving the franchise a break. I’m not doing it to be vindictive, I’m doing it because I don’t give two poos about Britt or her character finding “lurve”. I’d rather watch paint dry.

  13. vessel

    March 12, 2015 at 3:48 PM

    Yeah I agree that many people pick and choose who they watch based on if they like them or think they’ll be interesting. The only lunatics are the ones who proclaim “I won’t be watching if ______ is cast!” on social media actually believing ABC cares and might be influenced by this. I know they’re not. And yeah it’s doubtful I’ll watch if it’s Britt. I’ll still read here and I Hate Greenbeans, etc. but why watch someone who irritates you two hours every week? I slogged through Desiree’s season and wished I hadn’t wasted my time. Why make that mistake again unless the lead is someone likable to me? I might change my mind if I read that it’s a really good season despite her, though. We shall see.

  14. keddo

    March 12, 2015 at 3:55 PM

    Former Fat Friend,
    What about a swimming/beach/boating date of some kind early in your relationship where you wear a swim suit that doesn’t hide what he might “need” to see. He can make an informed decision before feelings get too strong, and you might get a good indication just from his body language where his mind might be and either be able to open yourself up more to him, or brace for the brush-off.
    Another thing I would suggest is to keep an open mind when it comes to the men you choose to date. I am sure that there are just as many excellent guys out there who can check off all your boxes except for some equally superficial thing, such as age, height, or hair loss that becomes far less important once you get to know them.

  15. justforfun

    March 12, 2015 at 4:25 PM

    @vessel, completely agree. I was so bored watching Des’s season that I tuned out until the very end. I will watch the bachelor no matter who it is because the women bring the entertainment & drama. Not the case with the men on the Bachelorette. I won’t be boycotting the show if Britt is chosen, will just choose not to watch. I don’t think that makes me lunatic fringe for not watching someone I find extremely annoying.

  16. jay2

    March 12, 2015 at 6:35 PM

    @ Confused in Miami: so glad to hear that you are moving on. I know it’s really, really hard, particularly because you were head over heels with him. My advice: be kind to yourself, allow yourself to mourn/grieve the end of the relationship so that you are ready to put it in your past and move forward with someone else. He may divorce and look for you in the near future, you never know, but if that happens, at least he didn’t divorce because of you, otherwise he will forever bring it up during fights. You deserve a single man who is for you and only for you, you will find him.
    Google how to get over a breakup/mend a broken heart, there are plenty of links from psychology magazines, etc and I think they are pretty good. They will tell you to do things that you used enjoy and they have suggestions on how to go through this process. Good luck!

  17. loquacious39

    March 12, 2015 at 7:58 PM

    Like I mentioned earlier, I wish we didn’t have Bachelorette shows. Men are infinitely more interesting The only season I liked was Trista’s. These people profess to boycott a season with Britt but they sure tuned in every week to see what she would do next. Kaitlin is as boring as Andi was.

  18. cjscjs711

    March 12, 2015 at 8:21 PM

    Kaitlyn’s supporters have reason to be upset – they thought their girl had it in the bag, then ABC threw this curve. And so they express their complaints. Now their candidate could lose!

    Britt’s supporters are not so upset! Their girl is getting a chance. Not so motivated to write.

    How many times did we read, “If they choose Chris instead of Arie, I won’t watch!” How many times and how vehemently? A lot. These are threats and they apparently don’t matter. No matter who is chosen, a LOT of people will be upset. And look at Chris’ season – it was the women who ‘made’ the season. Him, his personality, barely at all.

    Why would there be weeks filled with crying if Britt were Bachelorette? If someone hurts Britt’s feelings, she can just send him home. There will be no other women there to act like they’re her friends to her face, then try to sabotage her behind her back. She’ll be the ONLY woman after night one.

    She cried more about the women’s duplicity toward her than losing Chris. I felt for her. In most cases, it was Chris the women had an issue with but unlike her, they did not confront him with it. Instead, they showed their hostility not to him but to her. When Britt had an issue with Chris about Kaitlyn taking her bottoms off, she went to him about it. Knowing it was a risk.

    She had trouble with the format. She said it at least twice: Chris would seem to have a deep connection with her, then turn to someone else and connect with her. First time she said it to him was on that first night of extreme girl-kissing/saliva swapping by Chris. It was not realistic on her part to think he could keep giving the rose on group dates to her, given the show’s requirement to string everyone along for the ride for as long as possible.

    I’ll watch either way, but my first impression was to like Britt and thinking about it overall, I still do. Kaitlyn is the non-threatening, gal pal, but not even very romantic and pretty guarded with her feelings, unless it’s humor. Do I look forward to a season of her over-done laughing at off-color jokes and remarks (ala Jimmy Kimmel’s)? NO. I’d rather watch Britt, but I’ll be there either way…

  19. momma3j

    March 12, 2015 at 8:27 PM

    I still stand by what I said on a different post: if Britt is cast as the lead, i will not watch this season. Like others said above, why would I waste two hours every Monday to watch someone I can’t stand? I have ended friendships IRL with people whose personality clashes with mine. I certainly won’t be “entertained” by a total stranger for an entire season that falls in the category of a toxic individual. @rob22, it actually would make me a nut bag for subjecting myself to the torture, not staying away from it. duh

  20. allusernamestaken

    March 12, 2015 at 10:36 PM

    i don’t know why Steve Carbone has a hard on for britt… on wait, i do.. that is why he is single! i love his blog and commentary, but honestly, every season he seems to like a certain type. It is not a big deal, but he needs to realize that maybe if he found a different type of girl he wouldn’t be 40 and single. Kaitlyn is hilarious and my husband and I always find her the best. I actually don’t find Britt attractive in the slightest. Her head is too big, weird body, boring personality and too hippiesh for me. She does have great hair, so +6 on that!!! Good luck Steve, but I think many people will agree with me that Kaitlyn is petite, but with muscle. Pretty face, great personality… her hair may not be the best, but her style is on point!
    have fun at your 40th and I wish you luck as you enter the next 10years of your life. You say you are into sports and watch basketball/football yet you are not into the type of girl that you can kick it with!

  21. justforfun

    March 12, 2015 at 10:53 PM

    I do find the posters here to be a rational group, able to calmly state their views without attacking others that don’t feel the same way. There are some real nut job rabid fans on twitter & instagram. Yikes!
    I just watched Kimmel, and while interviewing Sean Penn, Sean admitted to being a bachelor fan, and he is team Kaitlyn! 🙂
    I have a feeling Kaitlyn will get the gig. The producers would be crazy not to go with the one *most* of the fans want. I guess we will know soon.

  22. bachfan30

    March 13, 2015 at 3:38 AM

    Loved when Sean Penn stated he was #teamkaitlyn!!!

  23. beebifidum

    March 13, 2015 at 4:32 AM

    As a guy, my perspective is that Britt seems to ‘not have grown up’ emotionally because its clear that she thinks its acceptable to either throw a hissy fit or cry every time something goes wrong in her life.

    This is a Big Red Flag for nearly every guy out there who is really looking for a long term partner.

    The only way that I think the new Bachelorette season’s guys might choose Britt over Kaitlyn is if (1) they didn’t watch the WTA or the last episode that Britt was on to get an idea of what she can be like when she’s not happy, (2) they are just on the show to promote themselves and have no interest in finding anyone for a LTR so they might as well pick the woman who flirts better, (3) they’re tools who will do whatever they’re told to do by the producers, and are told to pick Britt.

    I don’t think Britt is bad, per se. Its just that somehow she never developed the character to realize when its ok to show you’re upset, and when its better to keep things a bit under wraps even when you’re having a bad time. Imagine the horror this show would have been had there been 25 women who ALL cry as readily as Britt did when she got upset…yikes.

  24. hattiebloom

    March 13, 2015 at 7:17 AM

    Oooooohhhhh Nooooooo @allusernamestaken, be careful what you say about Stevie boy, he’ll block you from posting if you insult him too much.

  25. meredith27

    March 13, 2015 at 7:33 AM

    I’m not sure I understand why people are saying there is so much support for Kaitlyn. I see so much MORE support for Britt! The things people are saying about Britt make for GREAT television and ratings. Regardless of whether you like her or not the show needs her. Kaitlyn will not get good ratings. Do you really think Sean Penn is going to watch the show? HELLO!!!!!!!!

  26. vessel

    March 13, 2015 at 8:19 AM

    There is no way to predict what kind of ratings Kaitlyn, or Britt would get. To make assumptions based on personal preference is really kind of silly.

  27. mush

    March 13, 2015 at 9:52 AM

    guys, dont forget, steve doesnt read these comments. this forum is just for us to discuss. youll have to email him to get his attention. and i think kaitlyn will bring ratings. of course she will. heres a topic for discusion: with all the public support for kaitlyn (anna kendrick, sean penn, sean lowe, etc, etc) and the studio audience at the after the final rose cheering for kaitlyn and even booking britt, how could abc not put kaitlyn in the role. theyll create a very negative feeling in their viewers which theyve never done before a season even started. heres the question. i wonder if abc didnt contractually promise the role to britt (seems obvious after the first episode that she was cast as the next bachelorette) and then try to rescind once they saw her performance on the show and viewer reaction, but couldnt legally. so their way out of having britt is this duel bachelorette idea in which both girls get paid whether they are chosen or not. ill email steve about this too.

  28. hattiebloom

    March 13, 2015 at 10:40 AM

    Trust me @mush…..Steve reads the comments despite what he may claim.

  29. angelfish

    March 13, 2015 at 11:22 AM

    Steve may read the comments, but he’s never blocked any posters, censored or berated anybody for what they put here in the comments section.

    Now mocking and insulting the emails he gets is a different story. One of the reasons I’m a huge fan!

  30. vessel

    March 13, 2015 at 11:39 AM

    @Mush it’s an interesting idea, please definitely email Steve. I’d like to hear his opinion on that.

  31. meredith27

    March 13, 2015 at 1:17 PM

    Mush – I tend to think the opposite based on Kaitlyn’s comment “it’s not ideal” and Britt seemed so happy

  32. nesai

    March 13, 2015 at 5:00 PM

    I don’t see the survey with the 25 men credible. The men that are going on the show are looking for wife material. They should interview 25 men that are ready to settle down. As Kaitlyn getting the popularity vote from celebs. I don’t think they are credible either. For example; Ana Kendrick has 375mil followers on tweeter, but only 14k people favorite her tweet for #TeamKaitlyn. That doesn’t represent the whole bachelor nation. Which looking at ratings is about 6-8 million viewers. I feel it’s more like a clique for the Kaitlyn campaign people are just solely agreeing with all these popular people to bash someone.

    I don’t think Britt deserve all that hate. They are both beautiful and strong women. They wouldn’t have signed up for it if they couldn’t handle the rejection or the controversy against them. I hope Britt gets the gig. I want to see if she will be able to represent herself in a better light or see if confirms the judgement people say that she is fake. With more footage of her as the Bachelorette.

    As for Kaitlyn, yeah she’s fun, but that’s all I see fun. I don’t think she can hold her own on the show. Especially with 25 men. With Chris season she only got to where she got due to promise of sexual innuendo. Her comments “you can plow me anytime” and pulling off her bikini bottom only shows the immaturity. I didn’t even know who Kaitlyn was up until she became the final 3. Chris only wanted sex with her in the FS. He didn’t care about her feelings. To take her aside and talk to her like he took Becca aside. Don’t get me wrong I love Kaitlyn style and her joking nature, but I don’t see her falling in love and opening up to the guys.

  33. nesai

    March 13, 2015 at 5:14 PM

    I mean 3.75mil followers*

  34. nesai

    March 13, 2015 at 5:25 PM

    Kaitlyn kind of messed it up for herself. Getting too cocky. Setting up photoshoots to make her look like she’s already bachelorette before the announcement. She seems too entitled to that role which is due to all the press she’s getting for it. I feel Britt was gracious and appreciative for the opportunity. She seems more humble than Kaitlyn. Who’s just spiteful and even bitter. She haven’t moved on and let go of the last season with Chris regarding the stunts Britt pulled when it came to her. Britt needs to be more self aware of her actions, but she did apologize. She’s the type to speak before thinking. Her jumping and cutting people off mid sentence. Doesn’t show maturity either.

  35. mush

    March 13, 2015 at 10:10 PM

    kaitlyn did what the producers told her to do, photoshoots. she tweeted what the producers told her to tweet. people magazine or whoever did the photos tweeted out a pic of her photoshoot. how is any of this kaityn being cocky? so strange. and britt is NOT humble. so many reasons why she isnt, but i just cant bother anymore about britt.

  36. wavecatchingmom

    March 14, 2015 at 8:36 AM

    I know Steve is offline, but does anyone remember the fictional show that is going to be about the bachelor behind the scenes? He posted it a month or so ago, and I can’t comb through posts to find it. I want to make sure and bookmark that – not sure when it is airing. It was about the same time he introduced the DRATCH.

  37. hattiebloom

    March 14, 2015 at 9:18 AM

    @angelfish posted “Steve may read the comments, but he’s never blocked any posters, censored or berated anybody for what they put here in the comments ”

    How would we know if Steve blocks people since they would no longer be able to post? He in fact did block a friend of mine and claimed the only way he knew she was saying rude comments about him was because other readers were “complaining” and his “moderator” pointed it out.

    Regardless of what he says he does…..getting kicked off this site was certainly good for a few laughs.

  38. jacquibk

    March 15, 2015 at 5:59 AM

    Not true at all, I received a personal email from Steve asking me not to post certain things. So, he or his moderator read the post, forwarded it to Steve and I received the “request”. Don’t assume you know everything @angelfish.

  39. hattiebloom

    March 15, 2015 at 3:14 PM

    Steve pretty much has to claim he doesn’t read these comments, otherwise he’d subject himself to questions and answers via the comment board and it would add another layer of communication that he doesn’t want…..understandably.

    Having said that, to think any blogger or Steve doesn’t read the comments is naive. There is no other way to gauge the temperature of your writing or gather feedback on tone. Steve reads these comments….no doubt. And there’s no “moderator” either…..but it does tickle me that he claims there is one.

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