Bachelor in Paradise 2

“Reader Emails” & Taylor Swift Last Night

Well to say last night was quite the experience would be an understatement. I could probably write 3 pages about attending the Taylor Swift concert but I’ll spare you the intricate details, not to mention I have a plane to catch homne. Just now that my niece Olivia had a blast, and I thoroughly enjoyed every second of it. Great concert. Lets just say the “Swifties” are an interesting clan. Can’t say there were too many men there that’s for sure. And a lot of little kids barely made it through the first half of the show before falling asleep. The tickets said 7:30 but her website says 6:00. So of course I listened to the website and got there at 5:30 when we were told the opening acts don’t start til 7:30 and Taylor goes on about 9:15. Wonderful. So yeah a lot of sitting and waiting, but in the end, more than worth it. It was loud, I got a glow in the dark wristband that lit up to the music, and it was basically one giant sing along. Olivia sang all night. I just sang in my head because I’d never want to upstage Taylor at her own concert. I give it 2 thumbs up and I recommend any parent who has a kid that loves Taylor to consider going.

Sorry about not posting a new poll question yesterday. I still am having issues getting in to that website, but I’ll have a new one in there tomorrow. Also, get your “Dr. Reality Steve” questions in for this week. Only a couple weeks remaining until an extended “Reader Emails” and “Dr. Reality Steve” hiatus. On to this week’s batch…
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Steve,

Quick ratings question. When you say, for example, that the show had 5 million viewers and a 1.2 rating, what does a 1.2, 1.3, etc mean? Does it have any correlation to the millions of viewers or are the numbers completely separate?

Comment: I’ve been asked this a lot and I have a horrible time explaining it. Mainly because I still don’t fully understand it. So here’s the Wikipedia page for how to determine ratings. Hopefully this helps.
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Hi Steve,

When is the public going to realize that every Bachelor, Bachelorette or BIP broadcast is nothing but an elaborate puppet show? Every word and every action is manipulated by the producers to create drama and they definitely know how to pull the strings. Nothing is real except for the booze and the sex (every cast member knows that Fantasy Suites are part of the show). Finding a spouse is not a producer expectation here. If it happens, the producers are just as surprised as you or me. So why would anyone want to come onto this show? EXPOSURE ON TV, ETC.! They are all actors whether they think so or not. The better the actor they are the more exposure they get and the smarter ones know this. Every show someone seems to ask someone else, “Are you here for the right reasons?” Well if they aren’t there for booze, sex and exposure, they aren’t there for the right reasons.

Let’s take Carly for an example. Her brother was getting married during BIP, but she passed up her brother’s wedding for BIP. What could be so important that she would do that? EXPOSURE! She wasn’t there to find a husband. She was there for the booze, sex and the exposure and she got plenty of all three plus a little money for being an actress. How about Jade and Tanner? Did they find love? Maybe, but it wasn’t why they were there. Who really expects to find love in four weeks? Comment: Actually it was three weeks, but point taken. How about Joe and Samantha? Did the producers know what they were planning? Of course they did and they orchestrated it for maximum drama. I wouldn’t call them good actors but they played their part very well and got the exposure (booze and sex) they wanted.

So why do After Paradise every week? They are trying to get the public to believe what they’re watching is reality while continuing to create drama via guests and cast members. To me this is falling flat. They had a poll about who Juelia should be most offended by, Joe or Sam. Really? Why should anyone be offended? They are just playing out the role they’ve been given. If you don’t like it don’t watch it. Remember who is pulling the puppet strings.

Comment: They also make the show because it’s highly profitable and millions of people watch every week, regardless of how silly, manipulated, contrived, or embarrassing it is. So lets not forget that. It wouldn’t be on the air 12 years and 30 seasons (along with 5 seasons of summer shows) if it wasn’t making money.
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Hi Steve

You probably already answered this, but are you going to read Andi’s book?
Did you ever find out who broke up with who, and why? My friend
ran into Josh in a bar in Tampa soon after the breakup but didn’t get any info
from him. Said he was a nice guy.

Comment: Oh, I’ll definitely read that one because it’s going to have dirt on their relationship. Granted, we are only hearing Andi’s side of things and I highly doubt Josh is going to write a book in response, but lets just say, she isn’t writing a book to praise him for 200 pages. I’m guessing she is going to bring up things in their relationship that happened. And from what I’m hearing, it’s not good.
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Hey Joe,

What do you think of Joe’s tweets? He keeps tweeting about how he is in a relationship with his dream girl named Alexis. Isn’t this a violation of his contract?

Thanks!

Comment: No. That Alexis girl he’s tweeting at is a porn star/stripper. She’s never responded to him, so he was just playing around. He’s not dating her.
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Hi Steve!

Love your site and all of the spoilers that you do! I’m definitely envious of your job!

I know you’ve mentioned that Tenley is definitely interested in Ben H. but everyone knows he’s going to be the next Bachelor. All of her Facebook posts lately have been super sad ex: “ I’ve been feeling a little sick, very tired, & honestly, emotionally drained” and “ It turns out I don’t know best. One of my biggest lessons has been how much my way hurts. No more trying to make my way work or try to change God’s mind.” Maybe I’m just reading too far into this (but when someone posts status’ like that they must know they are making people wonder) if it’s all over her being hurt due to Ben’s Bachelor confirmation? I’m assuming he has recently signed all the contracts etc. since the announcement is coming soon.

I know you’ve said there isn’t any chance of her going on his season but if she’s this crushed by him, I could honestly see her going on. Plus, Ben isn’t anywhere near as “controversial” as Kaitlyn was so those producers are going to have to drum up drama one way or another. Any word on this or even the slightly possibility she goes on?

Thanks for all the spoilers!!! J

Comment: I really don’t see that happening. She’s said she wouldn’t, so it’d take an awful lot of convincing by producers at this point. I guess anything is possible, but I’d be really surprised if she did.
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Steve,

Saw on twitter something about Jade adjusting to a new city, did she move to be with Tanner? Does he still live in Kansas City, MO?

Comment: Jade moved to Nashville with Carly. Not to live with her, but they just moved there at the same time together. Yes, Tanner lives in KC. So she’s at least closer to him now, but I have no idea what their plans are once the season ends.
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Hey Steve,

As I was chuckling over the Twitter war between Joe Bailey and his new Army of Trolls, I noticed a photo on his Twitter feed where he was burning something (not sure what), and appeared to be holding a cigarette at the same time.

This made me wonder: how many of these cast members and/or leads are actually smokers? Are cast members even allowed to smoke during filming, or do they have to abstain like Survivor cast members for the duration of filming, albeit for different reasons?

I even recall when Top Model supposedly banned smoking somewhere around Cycle 8 or 9, claiming it “looked bad” for the young teenage girls who follow the show (and I agree). At any rate, since smoking has become less socially acceptable in recent years, I was curious if you had any insight into the percentage of smokers who get cast.

God knows if I was the lead, the first guys I’d send home would be the smokers, but that’s me. I’m also a child of the 70’s/early 80’s, so the adults in my life smoked like chimneys, both indoors and out, so they reeked like ash trays even from several feet away. Seriously, I can’t think of a bigger turn-off. (Perhaps nowadays, the younger generation who are foolish enough to start smoking got better at disguising it, I don’t know.)

Thanks!

Comment: I’m pretty sure you can smoke, but you are escorted away from everyone and have a handler with you. But yeah, I can’t imagine anyone who is smoking on that show is lasting long.
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Dear Steve,

I have been reading your blog for years, I love all the spoilers that you give out. I may not watch all episodes of TB but I definitely read your blog. Just wanted to let you know that I recently started watching Friday Night Lights based on your recommendation and LOVE it!!! When I first read about it on your blog, I thought it is a reality show, then a football wives show like Astronaut Wives Club, but I was looking for a new show after binge watching Entourage and fell in love with FNL. Thanks for the recommendation. I got into Unreal as well and love it. Please do recommend more shows that you enjoy. I am always looking for shows to binge watch. Some shows that I recommend are Extras (so funny), Misfits, and Orphan Black.

Comment: I’ll recommend “24” and “Lost” since those two along with “FNL” are my three favorite shows of all time. But “24” has 8 full seasons and a 9th season that’s only 13 episodes, and “Lost” is 6 full seasons so you’ll have to dedicate some serious time to those.
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Hey Steve! First of all, I want to say thanks for all of the work you do! I love everything about your website, and the fact that you’re a fellow Texan makes it even better! I am wondering if there is anywhere I can find the Jake/Vienna interview that you posted about yesterday. I have been out of town so I have missed the past few episodes of bachelor in paradise, and I definitely missed that interview somehow!! Thanks!

Comment: Wait, huh? The Jake/Vienna interview that I posted was the Jake/Vienna interview. Am I missing something here? Jake and Vienna did that interview years ago when they broke up. That wasn’t done recently.

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24 Comments

  1. cjscjs711

    August 26, 2015 at 9:51 AM

    I think the appearance by Nick as a next Bachelor teaser was obviously being playful with the audience and I didn’t see it as meaning to be hurtful to anyone. Nick was a good sport about losing again, even though that was all unspoken, the silly pretend indecision they’d been hawking about who to choose – Nick or Ben. I saw some humor in it, and was glad Harrison didn’t do to Nick what he did to Britt – make it seem like he was leading up to telling her she won only to tell her she lost. That would have been hurtful.

  2. kimmyfromdablock

    August 26, 2015 at 10:55 AM

    I like the reader mail about rating attractiveness on the women left on BIP. For me, the order would be:

    1). Jade
    2). Ashley I
    3). Juelia
    4). Ashley S.
    5). Samantha
    6). Tenley
    7). Amber
    8). Carly

    This is of course, not accounting for personality — strictly looks. Clearly I don’t see Samantha as a ‘smoke show’ but I understand the appeal of her look for men. She’s too Elvira/porn star look for me.

  3. elizabeth82

    August 26, 2015 at 11:19 AM

    rob22, was that you with the paragraph about how hot Samantha is?

    I agree with the person who said her hair is just way too long, especially ’cause she has such a small head (so does Nick, ha) and shorter hair would complement her features much better. I also don’t like her porn-star-looking nails. Of course she’s very pretty but her personality isn’t.

    Rankings are fun, so here’s mine:

    1. Jade
    2. Ashley S.
    3. Tenley
    4. Samantha
    5. Carly
    6. Ashley I.
    7. Amber
    8. Juelia

    Juelia would be a lot prettier if she lost the clumpy eyelash extensions, fake boobs, streaky hair color, and orange skin tone. I don’t care for Jade, but she has great natural beauty, I just wish she didn’t have the fake boobs too. Carly’s the only one whose personality I really like, so maybe that boosts her attractiveness to me. :)

  4. rob22

    August 26, 2015 at 1:03 PM

    elizabeth: No. I didn’t send the email about Samantha. I’ve emailed RS once, didn’t like the response, commented on it & have never done it again. And probably won’t in the future.

    But ironically, I WAS going to say that I would put Samantha #1 on my list. I’d never commented on her (certainly not about her looks), so some pretty good mind reading there in that I was going to agree with that email.

    I’m honestly not all that taken by Jade. I wonder if the fact that she did the nude video that probably most have seen, factors into their rankings? To me, she’s not incredibly awesome looking. I do think Ashley S is nice looking, so I’d put her at #2. The others, I mean they’re attractive (95% of the women on the show are attractive), but to me they’re not drop dead gorgeous or anything. They don’t stand out to me.

    Obviously Ashley S is a borderline mental patient and Samantha is manipulative and kind of a self-absorbed semi-sociopath. So, neither is remotely girlfriend material. But they are very nice looking.

  5. rob22

    August 26, 2015 at 1:08 PM

    Oh, and on Carly. Initially her bubbly personality made her seem attractive. But she’s one of those people who the more you see of them, the less attractive they seem. It’s not just the bad hair dye job. It’s her clingy and kind of stalkerish personality. You go out with Carly, and you’re going to have a heck of a time getting rid of her. And you’ll want to get rid of her fast. She was the one with all the snarky comments about Britt, among others. She’s not a very nice person. Very insecure & has a dead end job on some cruise ship. I’ve been cruising a bit, and a lot of their entertainers are big drinkers and live sad depressing lives…. and are not paid well unless they are headline acts. She’s one of those people that evokes a “Danger Will Robinson” warning. Stay away from that.

  6. elizabeth82

    August 26, 2015 at 8:59 PM

    @rob22: Aw that’s too bad you think so poorly of Carly. Britt deserved most of the comments Carly made about her; Britt’s phony and manipulative. I don’t get how Carly’s clingy either. A little insecurity comes through and her hair dye job is unfortunate, but I think she’s funny and likeable. Are you sure you’re not (as I think RS is) judging her mostly for the Britt comments?

    That’s funny you didn’t make the Samantha comment but agree. RS’s answers to e-mails leave much to be desired, as he doesn’t even answer many of the questions therein.

  7. kimmyfromdablock

    August 26, 2015 at 9:32 PM

    Interesting that a few find Ashley S so attractive. She’s definitely pretty and has a great body….but between her perma-startled expression and an overall look of a 35-year old suburban mom….she just doesn’t WOW me.

  8. braveo900

    August 27, 2015 at 1:20 AM

    Mine is: Ashley I/Samantha, Amber, Jade, Juelia, Tenley, Ashley S, Carly

    And Dan, Tanner, Jared, Joshua, Nick, Justin, Kirk, Mikey/Joe

    (Based on looks & voice)

  9. caffeinequeen

    August 27, 2015 at 2:06 AM

    I like rankings too–
    1. Ashley I.
    2. Tenley
    3. Ashley S.
    4. Juelia
    5. Jade
    6. Samantha
    7. Carly
    8. Amber

    Leaving Tenley’s voice aside, I think she’s really attractive in a wholesome sort of way. Juelia too, but use less mascara (or remove the lash extensions).
    I guess I see Samantha’s attraction, just doesn’t do it for me. If I had to be stuck in an elevator with any of them, Carly would be the most entertaining. :-)

  10. Scout

    August 27, 2015 at 6:59 AM

    OO! I’ll rank too!

    Tenley, Jade, Ashley S, Ashley I, Carly, Samantha, Juelia, Amber

    And guys:
    Jared, Tanner, Dan, Kirk, Nick, Josh, Mikey, Joe, Justin

  11. helloday

    August 27, 2015 at 9:26 AM

    Wow. There are a bunch of racists here. There’s tons of variation in the rankings for the white girls, but the black girl is always last or second to last. She’s one of maybe two people who let their natural beauty shine through and don’t cake it on, but because she is black, it is deemed unattractive. This is why we will never have a minority bachelor/ette. You don’t even think about your racism. It’s just programmed into your mind that minorities are unattractive. Amber is up there with Jade when it comes to beauty. Open your racist eyes to see the truth.

  12. Bellatriks

    August 27, 2015 at 10:30 AM

    Since rankings are now a thing: :)

    1. Tenley
    2. Ashley S.
    3. Samantha
    4. Jade
    5. Ashley I.
    6. Amber
    7. Carly
    8. Juelia

  13. LynnS

    August 27, 2015 at 10:37 AM

    Regarding the above post: I am sick and tired of people thinking I am racist because I don’t happen to believe a woman of a different race is attractive.

    It is sickening to me that I “must” consider a woman beautiful just because she is a different race. Clear and simple, I don’t find Amber very attractive.

  14. rob22

    August 27, 2015 at 10:43 AM

    helloday: I do like Amber. Good looking and great personality. I forgot she was on the show. I’ll add her 3rd on my list. She not really a classic beauty, you’d really have to admit that. I see her as more of an attractive girl next door type. In a good way. I don’t think it’s fair to label people racists because some, not all, have her lower on the list. I mean, she’s on the list.

    elizabeth: probably I do have Carly lower because of the way she treated Britt. I’m still a little bitter about that. I would definitely have Britt up on my list. Maybe even #1. But I have to admit that Kaitlyn provided a grand train wreck and great entertainment, so she probably was the better choice. Britt might have been kind of boring. It was a pretty sad group of guys when Alf ends up being the winner. There wouldn’t have been much hope for that season unless Kaitlyn did all the stuff that she did.

  15. Scout

    August 27, 2015 at 10:46 AM

    LynnS: stole the words right out my mouth! I find Amber pretty…or cute. But as for who I (and only I) find attractive, she just wasn’t high on my list. There are plenty of women of colour that I find attractive – just like there are plenty of white women that I find unattractive.

  16. vessel

    August 27, 2015 at 10:56 AM

    I’m with you Elizabeth on the Carly thing. I’ve always liked her and found her witty. It is unfortunate about the hair/eyebrow combo, but that’s fixable. Also agree any snark she directed at Britt was totally earned. Britt’s snotty ‘me me me how dare you give others roses over me’ attitude and behavior, plus the over the top theatrics deserved probably even more snark than they showed us.

  17. purplerayne

    August 27, 2015 at 11:20 AM

    Naturally pretty girls:
    Jade
    Amber
    Ashley S

    Pretty girls that get help from their hair, styling:
    Samantha
    Tenley
    Ashley I.

    The average girls that makeup and extension cant help:
    Juelia
    Carly

  18. purplerayne

    August 27, 2015 at 11:25 AM

    Carly is a giant red flag once you look at all of her offenses: her insecure cattiness, her “profession”, her constant admiration of Kirk when he’s given only 10% back, missing out her beloved brother’s wedding to be on television……individually these things might not be a big deal, but collectively they say a whole lot about Carly and it aint good.

  19. ladyjane747

    August 27, 2015 at 12:45 PM

    Ooh, I’ll play.
    1. Samantha
    2. Ashley S.
    3. Jade
    4. Ashley I.
    5. Amber
    6.Tenley
    7. Juelia
    8. Carly

    1. Dan
    2. Jared
    3. Nick
    4. Josh
    5. Tanner
    6. Kirk
    7. Mikey
    8. Justin
    9. Joe

  20. cjscjs711

    August 27, 2015 at 5:02 PM

    Well this is something new – looks like more fun than the betting ring on the Bachelor! I’ll play, but I can’t help but be influenced by my work. The types I’m used to working well with photographing and retouching.

    Amber far and away #1 (and no, it’s not race preferred, I’m white). Lovely skin, natural beauty, love her style, her warmth, her figure. I could see her beauty or editorial
    Ashley S. – Agree with the housewife comment, but those women make a lot of money doing lifestyle! She’s very commercial with her can’t miss features. I could see her doing some elegant ads, too. Not kooky crazy. No.
    Ashley I. – We already have one Kim Kardashian we don’t need another. Kind of curious about what’s under the makeup. She seems like she’d like seeing good pictures of herself, and I like working with people who like my work.

    That’s about it for me. Samantha – love her hair; Jade is adorable but they both still come across as a little too men’s mag for me. JMO

  21. kimmyfromdablock

    August 27, 2015 at 5:08 PM

    @helloday

    These rankings are fun and your post is depressing. I would bet that not one person ranked Amber low because of the color of her skin. Her skin color is actually quite beautiful, but I still don’t favor her looks overall.

    Don’t look for problems where they don’t exist.

  22. braveo900

    August 28, 2015 at 1:30 AM

    I don’t agree fully with helloday, but I think the sentiment they’re trying to convey is that in the first 5 rankings offered by commenters, 4 of them had Amber being either last or 2nd to last. I was surprised by it too. It’s just not proportional to what you’d expect. It could be a coincidence, or it could be that sometimes people have different standards/preferences for beauty for different races, even when they don’t realize it. This is what it usually is in real life, so I can see why helloday may take that frustration out here.

  23. flightgirl

    August 28, 2015 at 1:33 AM

    helloday— I agree with kimmyfromdablock, don’t look for problems where they don’t exsist.

    I also find women of color to be gorgeous. IMO, Amber just isn’t. But again, IMO, none of the other women are flat out gorgeous either. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I don’t find Samantha attractive, but many others here do. I think Ashley I is very pretty, but most here don’t.

    Enough of that. I also thought it was tacky and redundant to have Juelia on the after show still looking for sympathy. I do believe Joe was sincere with his apology. He was a complete dick on the show but he finally owned it.

    Nick does look much, much better too. I think Dan and Tanner are the most attractive guys. But again it is just my opinion.

  24. vessel

    August 28, 2015 at 10:29 AM

    I thought it was interesting the other night while I was watching BIP my husband looked up from whatever he was doing when it was mentioned by one of the guys for the 20th time how “gorgeous” Samantha is he goes “THAT is the girl they are all in a twist about??? Wow she’s definitely not all that” or something to that effect. She’s got a lot of hair and a great body for sure but I don’t find her face all that stunning. In fact if we’re getting picky she’s got a really weak chin, it’s almost non existent. IMO out of this group Jade is definitely the prettiest.

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