Reality Steve

The Bachelorette 5 - Jillian

After the Final Rose Recap & Some Videos For Your Viewing Pleasure

-I don’t know what I liked more last night: the horribly planted audience members with the stupid questions, or the amounts of awkward silence on stage when Kiptyn and Reid were up there. It seemed like the first half hour was nothing but a bunch of facial expressions and people forgetting their lines. How awkward was that to watch? I can’t tell you how many times I could hear the humming of the lights in my room while Kiptyn and Reid were on stage. Here’s the problem I’ve always had with bringing the rejected bachelor or bachelorettes back. This season had the quickest turnaround from the time filming ended to the time the finale aired (2 months). In that time, the one(s) rejected at the end might labor some feelings, but lets face it, they’ve moved on. Hell half of them are usually banging somebody else by that point. Just ask Jenni from Brad’s season who was already back together with her ex, yet came to film that show and whipped up some tears for the audience. It’s usually 3 to 4 months removed from actual filming before that ATFR tapes, so do you really need answers from someone that far out after a break up? I usually only bug them for a couple weeks afterwards. Ha ha.

-So what are my thoughts after seeing Jillian and Ed together last night? The same as they were the night before. “But Steve, look how happy they were, and she’s even moving in with him.” Yeah, even better. The fact she’s moving in with the guy in a month, in my mind, is waaaaaaay too early. That’s just gonna speed up their break up. Happy couples holding hands and kissing on the “ATFR” means nothing in the history of this show. So did Andrew and Jen. So did Bob and Estella. So did Meredith and Ian. So did Travis and Sarah. So did Lorenzo and Jen. So did Matt and Shayne. So did DeAnna and Jesse. Hell, DeAnna and Jesse were giving us video and photo updates on essentially what they had for breakfast for 6 months telling us how much they were in love with each other, spending time with each others families, etc. How’d that work out for them? Look, I know every couple is different, but, I’ll play the odds on this one. Your experience on the show is completely removed from reality and what relationships are really about. Hence the reason this show is 1-for-17 in producing a marriage. I’ll stick with those odds. So when these two eventually break up for whatever reason, just remember what your reaction was after last night’s lovefest and I’ll remind you what you saw last night doesn’t mean anything. The final couple is ALWAYS happy at the “ATFR” show.

-So many of you were disappointed that they didn’t announce who the next Bachelor was going to be last night. I don’t know why since they’ve done many “ATFR” shows without announcing who the next one was. Here’s some statistical data to remember regarding this show. Only two of the thirteen Bachelors have been recycled (Bob and Jason), but all five Bachelorettes were (Trista, Meredith, Jen, DeAnna, and Jillian). Interesting dynamic. I wonder if there’s any rhyme or reason to that? However, they are on a mini streak right now as the last three seasons they’ve shown have been with recycled people (DeAnna, Jason, and Jillian). If you’re gonna go by Monday night’s finale, then you’d think they’re setting it up to be Reid. The Kiptyn rumor has been floating around for the last month or so, and the fact it hasn’t been confirmed I think pretty much kills that. Plus, the audience reaction to him isn’t anywhere near what it’s been for Reid. So if they do choose someone from this season, my guess is it would be Reid. But I have no idea where their head is at and Chris Harrison reiterated in his blog today once again that the next Bachelor hasn’t been chosen.

-And even though “US Weekly” hinted towards it last week, and Jillian even gave her endorsement for it in an interview, you can officially cross Michael Stagliano and his twin brother off the list for possibly being the next “Bachelor”. Why? Because Michael is now dating Holly Durst. I knew about this last week but I was told to wait until after this past weekend before saying anything since Holly went to visit him in NY. Apparently things went well since Monday morning, both of them had changed their facebook status to “In a Relationship” (with the other persons name) on each of their pages, so obviously they don’t care that people know. Wow. That didn’t take long. I knew they really hit it off when he was in L.A. for the “Men Tell All”, and I to see she made a quick turnaround to go see him in NY was a telling sign. Not to mention all of her tweets recently about how in love she is. Hey, maybe she is. Or maybe she isn’t. I don’t know. I haven’t watched their relationship on TV nor do I know of any ex-girlfriends floating around ready to speak. I guess we’ll see how it goes. Holly is an acquaintance of mine as most of you probably heard the interview so I wish her the best. I just thought that immediately going to “In a Relationship” status within a span of two weeks was awfully bold of them. I guarantee Facebook has caused A LOT of arguments between couples based on that “In a Relationship” status. That thing can get very tricky.

-Jillian wrote her final blog on that you can see right here. What I find interesting is that last night on the show, they said they haven’t been apart more than five days total since the show ended. Then in the blog she says they spent “all summer together (every two weeks for five days at a time)”. Ummmm, so which one is it? Last time I checked, those are completely different statement. Saying you’ve spent all but five days together since filming ended two months ago means we’re looking at spending 55 of a possible 60 days together. Seeing each other “every two weeks for five days at a time” equates to 10 days a month, for a total of 20 days in two months. Wow. Two months into their relationship and they’re already lying to us. Nice. What’s next? Ed is a tiger in the bedroom? Oh yeah, they already disgustingly addressed that last night. Did Jillian really allude to how much they have sex last night? Classy. It’s bad enough we have to think of that guy in his awful European trunks, now we have to picture him doing it with someone other than his ex? Great. I think I’ll pass. But really, thanks for offering that bit of info last night. We were dying to hear how frequently you guys have sex. No, seriously.

-I wanted to share something with everyone that I don’t think I’ve ever posted before. Just with all the shenanigans that happened this season, and all the manipulation and editing I’ve been telling you about. This is an email that Brad Womack wrote to his cousin shortly after his finale aired and he’d dumped Jenni and DeAnna. No, this isn’t a private email that I got a hold of. If you google Brad Womack, you can find this thing on the internet. I’ve always had it in my possession because I think it’s one of the more telling things ever written about the behind the scenes stuff that goes on. And lets remember, Brad just wasn’t any contestant. He was the “Bachelor”. So for him to say this I think speaks volumes. For those that question the validity of it, I can assure you it’s authentic because, well, I’ve spoken to Brad about it and he confirmed he wrote it. I also recently brought it up with DeAnna and she confirmed that’s basically what Brad told her. So before we put a close on this season, just wanted to bring this to your attention. Here’s the email he wrote to his cousin:


I don’t really know where to begin my email because I don’t know if you’re
part of the half of America that is disgusted with my choice or part of the
half that respects it. I am hoping that you are of the latter; if not, I
hope this email will at least answer some of the questions that have been
thrown my way in the last few days.

First, let me say this. I did not ask to do the show; a friend of mine
submitted my information because she thought I would make a good candidate.
In fact, my initial reaction to the producers was “absolutely not”.
Hollywood can be very convincing when it wants to be and after some time I
agreed to give it a shot. I truly went on The Bachelor to try to find a
good woman that I may develop strong feelings for. That is the only reason.
I did not go on it for publicity of the bars. I did not go on it to use as
some sort of “stepping stone” into entertainment. I simply went on the show
to use it as it was meant to be used…to try to find a romantic interest.
Yes, it’s unconventional but also adventurous at the same time.

I had no idea what I was getting myself into (but that is another story that
would take too long to write in an email). I want to clear up some
misconceptions of the general public that I can only hope you and the rest
of the family are not inclined to believe.

First: Due to my contract, I was NOT ALLOWED to tell the women that I wasn’t
interested in them until the respective rose ceremonies. In other words, if
I realized a relationship was not going to come out of the show, no matter
how early on this revelation may have happened, I simply could not walk off
the show. I was constantly reminded there was a show to make and that I
would be sued for breach of contract. I never one time misled the
ladies…NOT ONCE. I was not allowed to tell anyone that my feelings
weren’t strong enough to try to build a relationship on. I never once
uttered the word love. The only time I mentioned “soulmate”, and I promise
you with everything that I have that this is true, the producers edited that
sentence to make it sound as if I labled Deanna as my soulmate, which I
assure you I didn’t. I admit that I did say that she was everything I was
looking for. I said she’d make a great wife. I said I could see spending
my life with someone like Deanna. What America wasn’t shown is that in
every interview that I said things like that about the women I immediately
followed up those statements with a “but”. “Deanna would make a great
wife….BUT, I don’t understand why I don’t see her as my wife”. Things
like that were said the entire show but were never aired.

Second: The only reason I went ring shopping is because it was part of the
show’s itinerary. I wasn’t asked if I wanted to buy a ring…I was TOLD I
was going to be filmed buying a ring. That particular day took place almost
five days prior to the final rose ceremony and even then I knew a proposal
wasn’t going to take place. I informed the producers of this and that is
when things started to turn interestingly different. I was no longer their
“golden boy” and I began to get the impression that I was going to be thrown
under the editorial bus. People think I kept the ring. I had the ring in
my possession for all of 2 hours MAXIMUM. In fact, (name), I told the
producers that there is NO WAY I would ever allow anyone to buy a ring that
I was going to give to a woman I love. I was very clear about the fact that
if I was going to propose to someone I would buy my own ring.

Third (and this is a biggie): I NEVER ASKED THE PRODUCERS TO FLY DEANNA’S
FATHER OUT TO THE FINAL ROSE CEREMONY. What actually happened is I was
adamant about the fact that if I ever propose to a woman I would have to ask
her father, face to face, for her hand in marriage. I said a phone call
would not be sufficient because I would want to look him in the eye and ask
for her hand. A day later I was told that Deanna’s father was in route to
Malibu. I was shocked. When I realized there was no turning back, I asked
for a mere hour to talk to her father and explain that 1) I didn’t request
his presence, 2) I wanted to apologize for the show wasting his time, and 3)
I wanted to tell him that as much as I cared for Deanna I was not in love
with her and did not intend on proposing to her. I think the world of
Deanna’s family and I always will.
(Reality Steve Update: It was confirmed to me that Brad was never given the
chance to have this meeting with her father even after asking for it).

I don’t have commitment issues. In fact, the majority of my adult life has
been spent in some incredible, long term, committed relationships. What I
do fear is wasting time. As good of a person as Deanna is I didn’t feel a
single bit of falling in love. So why lead her on? Why try to start a
relationship based on “Bachelor protocal”?? My goodbye to both women may
have seemed harsh because of the brutal honesty. If I need to work on being
more sympathetic than I will accept that. All I can say is I’ve had women
at one point or other say to me “I don’t love you anymore”. As much as it
hurt me at the time, I later greatly appreciated the honesty. I would much
rather have someone tell me that than string me along or toy with my heart.

No one in this world is perfect. All I know is I can walk away from this
experience with my head held very high. I know in my heart that I was
honest with all parties involved. I never one time lied or said and/or did
anything that I didn’t mean or want to do.

I hope you all had a very happy Thanksgiving and that you are doing well.


Good stuff. And you think Wes is the only one who got a bad edit? This guy was specifically stating he couldn’t see DeAnna as his wife on camera during his ITM’s, yet all America is shown is the first half of the sentence. From the minute Brad’s finale ended I’ve always thought that outside of Charlie’s season, his was my favorite ending. Never really understood the backlash against a guy just because he didn’t propose or choose one woman in the end. Why? The guy admitted he didn’t see a future with either of them so by choosing one of them, wouldn’t that be leading them on? Anyway, I know it’s old news and no need to bring up a season that happened two years ago, but I’ve always thought this email was a good indicator of how this show really works. Can’t believe I’d never printed it before. I guess I just figured a lot of people had seen it already since you can find it by googling his name.

-And what better way to close out this “Bachelorette” season than with a plug for our boy Wes. Ha ha. You know you love it. Call it kissing ass, call it whatever you want, I consider the guy a friend now so I will take this time to plug his appearance tomorrow night at the Glass Cactus in Grapevine, Texas. A few of us are headed out there tomorrow night and it should be a great time. I know a lot of you are either love it or hate it when it comes not only to Wes, but also country music. As I’ve said, I’ve never been a fan. Don’t despise it in the least bit, I just don’t buy much of it unless Carrie Underwood’s hot ass is on the cover. Ha ha. Anyway, Wes appeared on “Good Morning Texas” yesterday morning to do an interview and perform. No, he didn’t sing the song you all know and love. He actually does an acoustic version of “Gettin’ Around”, and I gotta tell you, I think it was a pretty damn good performance. The guy is a talented artist. Here are the links to the post show (internet only) interview he did, plus, his musical performance. Come on and check out the show if you’re in the DFW area. And if not, give the performance a listen and let me know what you think, regardless of if you’re a country fan or not.

Post show interview:

Musical Performance:

That’s it for this season for the time being. It’s had its ups and had its downs, but all in all, it was a good time. Trust me when I tell you I am still trying to work on letting some more information out about this season in general. I just need to see how I’m gonna go about doing this. Keep checking back periodically to for updates. No “Reality Roundup” Friday as I’m sure I’ll be three sheets to the wind on Thursday night, plus, my niece and nephew are in town tomorrow so that should keep me occupied. I will update when I can. Join on Facebook and Twitter, and don’t forget to purchase the last remaining merchandise before we’re all out. As always, any questions, comments, feedback, praises, criticisms, and anything else you’d like to ask, email me at Talk to you soon.



  1. kev22

    August 3, 2009 at 11:53 AM

    NYT piece is right but I still have absolutely no sympathy for these reality star wannabes that are begging for their 5 minutes of fame. If they don’t realize what they’re getting themselves into by now then they deserve it.

  2. JLBWorld

    August 3, 2009 at 1:45 PM

    So Mr. Steve it is “next week,” already are we going to get some news?

  3. sunny1

    August 3, 2009 at 2:17 PM


    Thank you so much for this blog. I wanted to express an immense appreciation and gratitude for what you do – it is very important. I didn’t know anything about the reality tv world until I started reading your blog last season and am now so thoroughly disgusted with it, I don’t plan to watch or support this series anymore. The manipulation and distortion that is carried out with human hearts and emotions is beyond disturbing. This past weekend the ABC bachelorette board had an immense fallout – people were being deleted off the board and being censored with such rapidity it was crazy. There was no support for anyone who had any ideas similar to yours, thank goodness for your blog! I just had to write this so you know how important and appreciated your blog is, I hope you continue being a voice for those who don’t have any, especially the contestants like Wes that get screwed over in such a major way that it affects their professional and emotional well being. This show isn’t for people wanting to support good and healthy television, thanks for opening our eyes up to that!

  4. sunny1

    August 3, 2009 at 2:26 PM

    Forgot to add one thing: I saw that someone posted the link to the NY Times article, I thought it was great about the conditions that reality tv contestants have to suffer through – its like slave labor/sweat shop type of stuff…I hope you’ll give the link to it (if it is possible) so your readers can see it. Thanks for the Brad Womack letter also, was very interesting and had never seen it. The Bachelor video of contestants trying to sign up for the show was interesting and funny along with being worrisome at the same time – about the unrealistic and naive motives people carry for going on this show. Thanks for sharing!

  5. julia

    August 3, 2009 at 4:00 PM

    I think there is supposed to be an article about Ed in US Weekly tomorrow…

  6. MindyM

    August 3, 2009 at 4:41 PM


    Why am I not surprised that you would call me out for a typo. Sorry, that is NOT, I repeat NOT, misspelling. Maybe you should get the difference straight in your own mind before you go trashing people. If we all called each other out on our little typos, then that’s all we would be doing.

    I merely made reference to a comment that was not only posted on the ABC forum, but actually copied and pasted onto the FORT site. Someone did it before it was deleted on the ABC site. A lot of nuts have been crawling out of the woodwork pretending to be a friend of Bethany, or a friend of a friend.

    Obviously, what you made reference to was something entirely different. I have been on FORT, but you did not indicate where it was posted. It’s a big site. But come to think of it, I now think I know to whom you are referring. Since I have been there for a while now, there is a person who fits your description. I will have to check it out.

    Your snotty reply was completely uncalled for. I was referencing the information I had read and wondered if it was the same thing. You could have answered politely and refrained from pointing out what was obviously a typo.

  7. jkazoo

    August 3, 2009 at 5:27 PM

  8. Emilie

    August 3, 2009 at 6:19 PM

    Reading these posts, I am reminded of what my mother used to tell me.

    “Some people can dish it out, but they can’t take it”.

  9. Jordan

    August 4, 2009 at 8:28 AM

    All of you RS haters make us laugh! You come here REPEATEDLY, yet have nothing nice to say. What great manners you have. Why dont you go visit a website you actually enjoy?

  10. JLBWorld

    August 4, 2009 at 8:40 AM

    I’ve always liked you RSteve and have found your information interesting and credible … but it seems you have been playing with us this time regarding Ed? So where is the big news? I mean if you have nothing to report at least post again that you were wrong.

  11. catherine a

    August 4, 2009 at 3:46 PM

    what is the FORT website that a few people keep referencing? Can someone provide a link?

  12. kev22

    August 4, 2009 at 4:27 PM

    “The ex-girlfriend of Bachelorette winner Ed Swiderski, who told you last week was still in intimate contact with Ed during the shows airing and finale, is planning to tell all this week.”

  13. JLBWorld

    August 4, 2009 at 5:22 PM

    catherine a :
    what is the FORT website that a few people keep referencing? Can someone provide a link?

    Fansofrealitytv I don’t have the exact address but google that and you will find it.

    supposedly on Inside Edition today this is all breaking news.

  14. DeeCee

    August 4, 2009 at 5:54 PM

    Well, Steve was right…. check out EXTRA, People, Inside Edition…..

    Sheesh- Jilly needs an intervention STAT!

  15. DeeCee

    August 4, 2009 at 6:20 PM

    Not sure if my previous post went through…..

    But the poop is hitting the fan now…. EXTRA, Inside edition, People- US weekly supposedly tomorrow….

  16. JLBWorld

    August 4, 2009 at 7:09 PM

    Yes Steve you can just sit back and say … well I told you all so and some did not want to believe you. I for one did because Mr.Ed just came off as a real jerk to me from day one.

  17. dfwgirl

    August 4, 2009 at 8:12 PM

    You know, you guys who are waiting for a bombshell to rock the news are just vultures. Reminds me of Don Henley’s song Dirty Laundry. Whether the rumors are true or not, or the show is scripted or not, why can’t you root for the couple to find true love? Who are you to judge, especially with all the bits and pieces of information Steve and others are digging up. And those of you who say, if you don’t like his blog, go away, you need to figure out your priorities and what’s important. People blog to get responses. I’m sure no one wants a bunch of people who only agree with them to respond or read it. Steve lives for this crap. He’s eating it up. I didn’t mean to get so worked up, but what really ticks me off is that if these two people – who have feelings by the way – are really in love, no matter what their background, how can you expect them to make it when they have all this crap to deal with in public? Don’t you think if it is true, that they – and I’m including the girlfriend here – will deal with it and why can’t they deal with it in private? Why make it 100 times worse? Now, don’t just tell me to go away because you don’t like what I wrote. Tell me something logical that could possibly excuse all of this trash. And I really don’t think we need someone to tell us “Hey Virginia, it’s not real”. I don’t think I’m so stupid that I don’t know when television or reality TV or the media in general, is being manipulative. If people are so stupid to believe everything they see, hear and read, then shoving this in their face is not going to suddenly make them intelligent. They’ve got more problems than watching Reality TV.

  18. sunny1

    August 5, 2009 at 3:18 AM

    @catherine a

    Basically FORT (fans of reality tv) is a website that has some really great sleuthers…they are meticulous and intelligent and diligent about various angles of the show and are generally interesting/fun to read. They are the ones who figured out it was Melissa weeks before the ending etc. etc. There are a couple of good sleuthers (i.e SDL – who was listed on the recent post) who people really respect on the site. If you sign up on the website and then search out posts, you’ll see the discussion is generally pretty good! Hope that helps.

  19. lemon

    August 5, 2009 at 3:19 AM


    yes dfwgirl, you are so much better than everyone else, we get it. It’s not like posting snotty holier-than-thou messages on reality tv blogs drags you down to our level. bwaha. C’mon, relax! If Ed and Jilly break up over these stories then Ed has only himself to blame. I know it’s easier for the JED fans to blame the media, but if Ed didn’t play around then he wouldn’t be in this position. It’s on his shoulders.

  20. riored

    August 5, 2009 at 10:38 AM

    Well, judging from the cover of US magazine, you were right again, RS. I can’t wait to hear what you have to say about this.

  21. tennisany1

    August 5, 2009 at 10:58 AM

    Just saw a brief live interview with Jillian and Ed on GMA….Ed in Las Vegas, Jillian in Chicago. It was pretty sad. Denials all around. Jillian says she knows all about Ed’s exes. They showed pictures of Ed with one girl at a wedding, dates, emails. Jillian said if the exes really wanted to “help warn her,” going to the tabloids wouldn’t be the way to do it – good point. They both said the wedding is “absolutely” still on, and Ed said maybe he’d take Jillian to the Chapel of Love in Las Vegas when she gets there later today.

  22. palm

    August 5, 2009 at 11:19 AM

    Steve: The morning show in Los Angeles said that all of the emails would be on your website. You’re getting credit for everything now!

  23. palm

    August 5, 2009 at 11:22 AM

    I think Jillian needs a session with Kiptyn’s mother, stat! Let’s hope she’s staying with him for some contract money, and not because she really wants to marry that dumbo.

  24. BlondeBeauty

    August 5, 2009 at 11:27 AM

    Everyone go to they have the US weekly article and pics of the girls Ed cheated on Jillian with.

  25. Teresa

    August 5, 2009 at 12:08 PM

    That’s funny, I was posting somewhere the other day they will probably get married in Vegas this week. Wow, not I am reading Ed’s mind. He does remind me of my first husband. They’re so captivating to women because they really don’t give a shit, which makes them seem cool and confident.

  26. Teresa

    August 5, 2009 at 12:22 PM

    oops, that was supposed to be “now”, not “not”.
    Whatever happens, I am sure that ABC is just over the top about the publicity for their show.

  27. FriendsAdmitToStunt

    August 5, 2009 at 12:56 PM

    Close Friend Admits It Was A Premeditated Stunt

    Aug 4th, A posting by Wes on his myspace page by a real close friend, gloating she and Wes’s sister knew about Wes’s Stunt before the world figured it out.
    Posting Date: Aug. 4th, 2009 (11:42 am)
    Close Friend: Lacy Jean Grayless
    QUOTE: “I have a mutual friend of your sister’s so I knew all about your stunt long before the world did. LOL”

    P.S. This is UNEDITED and approved and posted by Wes!

  28. JLBWorld

    August 5, 2009 at 5:49 PM

    I have been trying to wait patiently for Steve to return and respond to all of this.

    I guess if you have no more to say on this subject I wish you would at least come back and post accordingly.

  29. cubbieblue Kristin

    August 5, 2009 at 7:13 PM

    RS is going to have a column up tomorrow! Good can’t wait to hear what his take on all of this is!

  30. addicted2trainwrecks

    August 5, 2009 at 7:21 PM

    Just connected to the Wes Hayden link above and got a chuckle out of the following lyrics.

    “they say love it don’t come easy and if you fall too quick it must be wrong” while it can be argued that I lifted only a portion of the song, I wonder if this now appliies to “Our Little Jilly.” If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck…….it’s a duck. Jilly run for your life.

  31. Wes Supporter2

    August 5, 2009 at 9:25 PM

    To be honest, Jillian and Ed are both incredibly sleazy, immoral people. They deserve each other, and I do think this relationship will last. They have similar value systems and seem compatible, even complementary. I have a very low opinion of both.

    With respect to these women, I do believe their allegations. However, ladies, honestly, what are you doing sleeping with a man out of wedlock — and then sleeping with him, after Jillian oiled him up on national TV. Where is YOUR self-respect? Yes, Ed is a dog. Yes, he used you. He is also using Jillian. He has no respect for women, but you allowed yourself to be used and gave yourself too freely to him.

    I hate to say this, but if you are a loose woman and you offer yourself to a loose, immoral man, this is what you get. While exposing Ed for what he is (as if we didn’t already know), you have also exposed yourselves for being cheap women essentially.

    I am sorry to say, but I believe what happened is that Ed enjoyed the sex with you — as sex is sex for men. It’s just an act, a release, unless with a woman he loves. He had likely gone on the show for entertainment purposes, returned to you to make his final decision, and then decided on Jillian.

    I can see why he chose Jillian over the two other women. I must say that I don’t consider Jillian a catch by any stretch of the imagination. She is not attractive and her grammar is atrocious. Plus, she is a rather silly, vapid, narcissistic person. She has little depth or substance.

    However, in the interviews, they come across as just silly, dumb party girls. Yes, they are much better looking that Jillian (especially the blonde), but they are also not intelligent or engaging. Being cute and sexy makes you sexually attractive, but Ed was looking for a life long partner. You can’t make a man fall in love with you based upon your appearance. With all due respect, good looking women (and men) are a dime a dozen, and you were cheap and easy with yourselves.

    I think going to the tabloids was an incredibly trashy thing to do. I think the two spurned women think this is a great revenge for being used and discarded, but ladies, you put yourselves out there. You are just as much blame as Ed is. Why are you sleeping with a man who had just been on the Bachelor sleeping with the star?

    At the end of the day, Jillian, Ed, and these two “spurned women” are just trashy. Ed and Jillian will probably experience extra-martial affairs as neither one seems to be able to exert much self-control and both love straddling adn being straddled quite indiscriminately. Neither seems very moral or spiritually evolved.

    However, Ed said when he came back to Jillian that she is a “genius.” I harly see Jillian as particularly bright. However,next to the bimbos he left behind, Jillian is a genius — and ultimately Ed preferred more than just a pretty little air head. In Jillian, he found loose, cheap woman and someone with drive, personality, and intelligence.

    The other two women are just pretty, dumb, empty vessels and boring to boot. Yes, any man who uses a woman is scum, but then good women and men find each other just as scum attracts scum.

    I have never been cheated on. I have never dated a man who was loose. I have kept my morals and values. Men treat with me with respect and consideration.

    For the two spurned ladies, do you really think Jillian cares she was cheated on? This is a woman who admitted on national TV to kissing 10 men — four with tongue. This is a woman who probably slept with at least four bachelors (including Jason). This woman is indisciminate and has disgusted the nation with her vulgar behavior, language and her straddling of various men she didn’t even know. This woman has no shame. Why would she care to find out that her man is as loose and immoral as she is? If anything, it would enhance their bond and comfort level as neither can judge the other. They understand each other as they fundamenetally act in the same way.

    She was telling Kiptyn and Reid how much she cared, taking bubble baths, sleeping with them,hot tubbing while dating and sleeping with Ed.

    How is what Ed did to you and different than what Jillian did to other men?

    Move on and find some self-respect. This whole franchise cheapens relationships and marriage. I am embarrassed for all of you. The women in question have shamed and disgraced their own gender through their stupidity and manipulations.

  32. Wes Supporter2

    August 5, 2009 at 10:22 PM


  33. terry-pat

    August 13, 2009 at 12:57 AM

    How come my post did not take,I was a bit ticked but,hope it is a glich,and not a …Do not resusitate order.

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