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“Women Tell All” Recap – 3/7/11 Including Lots of Other News and Links

For episode-by-episode spoilers of Brad’s season, click on the link above that says “Bachelor Brad Spoilers” (it’s like, 1″ inch above this sentence. Twice). It has a breakdown of every date, rose, and elimination, all the way down to Brad’s final choice. Which of course was modified since there was some kinda big news revealed last Monday. Don’t know if you’d heard. However, there will be spoilers talked about throughout the course of this column. You’ve been warned.

Just for those that don’t remember, the “Women Tell All” recap is much, much shorter than regular columns. Even though there was some drama last night, a lot of the stuff we were shown is recapping things we’ve already gone over during the season. Sure, I’ll mention all the important parts of last nights episode, but I really don’t go into too much detail other than to give a few of my thoughts. However, there’s a TON of stuff cover before I start recapping the last nights episode. The first two pages of today’s blog covers a bunch of different topics, including a quick DC recap, the Emily “In Touch” cover story, a link to Ashley’s exit interview, a reality TV convention that I will be having a giveaway for, plus a message from Jason Mesnick in regards to contest he’s helping support. You might want to check it out considering the prize at stake. Plenty of stuff to get to before the recap, so lets get started.

A very eventful weekend in Washington, DC. Good times all around, got to see where that President guy works, saw the giant phallic symbol that is the Washington Monument, and that was pretty much it for historic landmarks. I really wasn’t too up for going on any museum tours. I know, real shocking to hear I’m not a museum guy, huh? I’m sure if you followed my Twitter at all Friday night you were aware of the places I was able to hit up with Ashleigh Hunt. Yes, that Ashleigh Hunt that had quite the impressive kiss with Craig R during the NY Reunion that was shown last night. Hey, they’d be idiots not to cast Ashleigh on “Bachelor Pad 2”. I would hope that have enough sense to do that. Attractive, outgoing, and doesn’t seem like she’s shy in front of the camera either, does she? She’s got my vote to get cast. More on “Bachelor Pad” stuff during the recap.

Quite an interesting evening on Friday to say the least. From Josephine’s, where Ashleigh proceeded to lose her drivers license, to Dirty Martini with no DJ, to Midtown which I don’t remember much of, then to Jumbo Slice at 2am, it was pretty nuts. I can say for the record that Jumbo Slice has the biggest slices of pizza I’ve ever had in my life. Gotta love that carb overload right before bed. So thank you to Ashleigh introducing me to Jumbo Slice. It’ll never be forgotten. Also want to give thanks to my car service to the airport on my way home which was none other than Rozlyn Papa. Good to finally meet her after pretty much a year of conversing. I’ll let it slide for now that she flaked on the weekend earlier happenings and left us hanging.

The “After the Final Rose” tapes today in LA, and judging by a couple of tweets from Molly Mesnick yesterday, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that her and Jason are somehow going to be a part of the ATFR taping, which makes sense. They just recently had their year anniversary, so not surprising the show wants to have them on for an update on what married life has been like. There’d be no other reason for Jason and Molly to be in LA today unless they are part of the ATFR taping, so I expect we’ll see that. And if Jason and Molly are appearing, I’m guessing we will see Ali and Roberto as well. Those are the latest “success” couples, so of course they will bring them back to show off to everyone. It’s pretty much to be expected.

Something that struck me while I was on the plane this weekend, is that since they started “recycling” the lead on the “Bachelor/ette”, the show has been on the exact same shooting schedule. The last three seasons of the “Bachelor” (Jason, Jake, Brad) filmed Sept/Oct through right before Thanksgiving, then started airing the first week of January. The last three seasons of the “Bachelorette” (Jillian, Ali, now Ashley) filmed March through May with the first episode airing end of May. The reason I bring this up is because if you’re gonna announce the new “Bachelorette” during the ATFR taping, doesn’t that pretty much automatically eliminate the final two girl as the lead? I mean, you can’t bring her out on stage, have her re-live her journey of just getting dumped, probably have her cry, make her ask the Bachelor questions regarding the break up, then in the same breath say, “Oh hey, you’re our next ‘Bachelorette'”. Seems like that could never work. If she knows she’s the next “Bachelorette”, she wouldn’t care about what happened when she got dumped four months ago. She’d be over it anyway and looking forward to being the next lead.

I don’t know how they would’ve done it with Chantal if she had accepted and not turned it down to date a local Seattle guy. In case you don’t want to go back and read Friday’s post, Chantal is dating a Seattle guy by the name of Jeff Razore. In the links I included Friday, neither of his pictures were part of the pages, but apparently, his work decided to add it over the weekend. Probably from all the traffic I brought to their site. You’re welcome. Anyway, here is a picture of Chantal’s new man:

This guy looks like Bill Rancic from the “Apprentice”. Enjoy it Jeff. Just know you were the guy Chantal chose not to be the “Bachelorette” for. No pressure. Anyway, it just seems damn near impossible if they continue on with this shooting schedule to ever have the final two girl as the next “Bachelorette”. Obviously after Jason dumped Melissa and went to Molly (thus making Melissa final two), she declined to do it, so they went with Jillian. Tenley was the final two girl but they surpassed her to go with Ali. And now this season, where it’s not Chantal and they went with the final three girl. If you’re gonna announce the next “Bachelorette” during the ATFR taping, I just don’t see how it can ever be the final two girl. Doesn’t seem like it’d make much sense.

As for Chantal’s appearance at the ATFR taping today, considering she’s dating someone already and has moved on, any emotions we see out of her, or any hard pressing questions she has for Brad will be completely producer induced. I feel bad she even has to show up and pretend like she cares what happened four months ago. If she was single and still hurting, then yes, it makes sense. But when she’s moved on, I’m sure it doesn’t matter too much to get any closure from Brad. However, there’s no chance in hell the show brings her on and lets her say “I’m good. I’m happy, I’m seeing someone now, I don’t really have any questions for Brad, it’s all in the past, I wish him and Emily well.” No way. It’s obvious that’s how she’s feeling, but no way they’ll let her say that. Hopefully I’ll have some details later this week from the ATFR taping, but I don’t expect anything shocking to come of it. Brad and Emily are engaged, Jason and Molly will talk about their first year of marriage, and Ali and Roberto probably talking about their first 6 months together. When will Ashley be officially announced as the next “Bachelorette”? Not sure. Maybe during today’s taping, maybe not. But filming starts next week, so it’s gonna have to be sometime soon. And there was a reason she had a whole new look last night. That wasn’t coincidental.

By the way, you can read Ashley’s exit interview from last week right here courtesy of A couple of interesting answers that she gave in regards to her demise from the show which pretty much backed up what she said last night. I’ll give credit to Ashleigh Hunt for tweeting this first last night, but Ashley up on the hot seat last night was almost identical to Ali’s hot seat performance from her “Women Tell All”. Talking about regrets, not trusting the process, then morphing in to “really excited going forward, ready to date” etc. If you had ANY doubts about Ashley being the next “Bachelorette”, last nights hot seat performance should’ve solidified it for you. Why it’s taking them so long to announce it I have no idea, but this thing has been set since two weeks ago when I first announced it. Maybe they don’t want it “officially” announced because guys haven’t left for filming yet and maybe they are scared of a reaction and they want to keep it a surprise to them, like they did with Brad. Remember, Brad wasn’t officially announced until after the women had left to start filming. Hell, his appearance on DWTS happened AFTER the meet and greet had taken place and he’d already eliminated 10 women. Granted, the week before people knew it was him, but it wasn’t “official”. That’s the only reason I can think of as to why they haven’t announced Ashley yet.

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  1. Rikki-tikki-tavi

    March 9, 2011 at 10:02 PM

    How ridiculous was Raichel blaming Melissa for “ruining” her chances. We understand why she was dismissed so soon, but she had no chance of being the F1. If Brad thought dinner conversation with Shawntel might be awkward, imagine what he thought about Raichel’s profession. “Hey honey, tell me all about the guy’s undercarriage that you waxed today!” Chris was hoping for a “moment” but Raichel wouldn’t apologize to Melissa, which according to Raichel’s own words from her exit means Melissa won {insert Woody Woodpecker laugh}.

    So what was the worst thing Michelle said about the other women? Being called little girls was the worst they could remember (she said it in the first episode and again in Vegas). Other women said worse things about her – a minute before they had even shown a clip of Alli saying Michelle was like an “evil bitch”. Obviously Michelle made this season what it was (I said before it should be called Michelle’s season rather than Brad’s season) and it was clear that most agreed and appreciated her contributions. It stands to reason that Michelle had so many ITM’s that made the final cut was because she was so entertaining. Did Jackie have any that were memorable? Or Stacey? I remember Marissa making light of Shawntel’s date in Vegas, confidently saying it’s only a first date, you’re not a couple. But she looked just as jealous as the other women when Shawntel was showing off what she got while shopping. And of course Marissa never had a one on one date with Brad.

  2. nancy 1794

    March 10, 2011 at 7:08 AM

    Sarcasm is a from of veiled anger. If Michelle was truly being “sarcastic” with all her comments during
    TB then she must have a lot of anger and rage inside. To be that nasty, sarcastic, controlling and selfish
    can indicate she has some sort of mental problem – a borderline personality disorder perhaps- or maybe she is
    bi-polar. Something is very wrong with her. I read that ” Money” is her ex husband’s name that she still uses
    & that she cheated on him. What I read said he is a very good guy and people that know him wish
    she would drop his name so as not to be associated with her.

  3. Small_Peanut

    March 10, 2011 at 9:58 AM

    Sarcasm: A form of humor that is marked by mocking with irony, sometimes conveyed in speech with vocal over-emphasis. …

    Nancy, being sarcastic has NOTHING to do with being bi-polar, look at Charlie Sheen, that is bi-polar. So your saying 90% of the people that use a form of sarcasm thoughout their daily lives are all bi-poalr, really? Lighten up, sounds like you feel better about YOURSELF by putting some contestant down on the show. I will support the others, if it wasn’t’ for Michelle, the bachelor would have been B-O-R-I-N-G, she said 90% of that stuff tongue-in-cheek (Tongue-in-cheek is a phrase used as a figure of speech to imply that a statement or other production is ironically intended and it should not be taken at face value.), Please, note, SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN AT FACE VALUE. Look, if you can’t laugh at yourself, then who can you laugh at? It takes a strong person to say you know, maybe I was a bit over the top as she did on the WTA and then apologized not once but “repeatedly”. She didn’t kill anyone, she didn’t hurt anyone and she said nothing that stood out that was god awful and spiteful now did she? She never said anything that was so mean spirited as some of the other girls! To me, this is no different than kicking a dog while it’s down, it’s cruel and unwarranted and I lost any respect I had for Jackie, she’s clearly jealous and/or auditioning to be on bachelor pad 2. To keep harping on her is just plain ridiculous and shows that perhaps you/she have/has your own insecurities you need to deal with. Nuf said!

  4. jennstinn

    March 10, 2011 at 10:32 AM

    nancy—wow, spoken truly like a person that doesn’t understand sarcasm. Also, I think A LOT of women keep their ex-husband’s name after a divorce–esp. when there’s a child involved.

    Anyone else getting a sound advertisement when you go to RS’s blog now? Super annoying.

  5. Dianne

    March 10, 2011 at 10:44 AM

    nancy..sounds like you’re pretty much describing yourself in your most recent post. I still go by my ex-husbands name, and the only reason I do is because of our daughter, so your theory regarding why Michelle still uses the laste name Money, is a crock.

  6. thewipf

    March 10, 2011 at 10:54 AM

    It’s clear that a lot of people have forgotten just how manipulative the editing of this show is. All the girls said they loved Michelle in the house. It wasn’t until the show aired that they began to hate on her. This show is famous for putting voice overs and ITMs in out of context. I’m sure if Michelle had made it to the end they would have made her look like the nicest girl in the house. I think she came across great in the WTA, and I’m in the Ashlee H. looked great camp.

  7. finerthings

    March 10, 2011 at 11:26 AM

    For someone who doesn’t like sarcasm, its hilarious that you are commenting on REALITY STEVE’s site! Bahaha.

  8. nancy 1794

    March 10, 2011 at 11:41 AM

    hey Small_Peanut Says–read much-?
    I did NOT say that 90% of people that use sarcasm
    are bi-polar. I did not even say that I think Michelle is bi-polar. I said
    Her BEHAVIOR may POSSIBLY indicate a personality disorder…such
    as borderline personality disorder or bi-polar. Sarcasm is funny
    sometimes & very appropriate but continuously being sarcastic indicates anger. Read up on it.
    That is if your attention span will allow you to actually READ. You moron!

    Here are some indicators
    of borderline personality disorder – look at these and ask yourself
    if Michelle displayed all of these or not:

    mood swings
    unstable relationships
    inappropriate emotions
    acting without regard of consequences
    using others without regard for their feelings
    being self-centered
    need for a lot of praise & approval
    not able to learn from experience
    quick to become angry
    attention seeking behaviors
    critical of others

  9. SherryfromD

    March 10, 2011 at 12:33 PM

    I don’t think the article from 2005 proves the In Touch article to be false. Maybe the 2005 article is false, and the Hendricks were just saying those things to put up a facade that Emily and Ricky were previously engaged since they are a conservative family…

  10. Cndgirl

    March 10, 2011 at 1:07 PM

    Hahaha @finerthings! I was thinking along those lines…wow I’m surprised how serious many people are in the comment section on RS’s site! It’s almost as entertaining as RS’s blog itself.

  11. Small_Peanut

    March 10, 2011 at 1:15 PM

    Nancy, I have one word for YOU “therapy”, good luck with that.

  12. nancy 1794

    March 10, 2011 at 1:17 PM

    On the Bachelor show, every single time she was on camera, there was a sarcastic comment coming out of Michelle’s BIG mouth. So much so that it became her personality.
    Michelle’s defense was that she has an extremely dry sense of humor.
    Like Julie-Julie says on her blog, I too have friends with very dry humor …but they are
    also SMART–and they are not sarcastic non-stop, ad nauseum. Michelle really doesn’t strike me as especially smart, funny or witty.
    And having endless sarcastic comments doesn’t allow your TRUE personality to shine through. So her bad judgement – or her “acting” – allowed her to be be regarded as nasty, a bitch or a wonderful & witty “sarcastic” woman. I’m thinking the ones who LOVED her sarcasm have some huge anger issues
    themselves and are living vicariously through Michelle.

  13. nancy 1794

    March 10, 2011 at 1:19 PM

    Oh gee Small Peanut – Thanks for the suggestion. Drop dead twice you idiot.

  14. Small_Peanut

    March 10, 2011 at 1:27 PM

    Nancy, If you go back and read your posts you have named called (nasty name calling), made threats and those that are trying to explain Michelle’s POV have done neither to you, so if you want to lecture on bi-polar and anger, read your posts, I find them a little disturbing and this is my last post to you. I hope you find the help you need and it’s not going to be here.

  15. Nobody

    March 10, 2011 at 2:00 PM

    Can I join this?


    Ok, I feel better. You may reconvene with the cat fight.

  16. finerthings

    March 10, 2011 at 5:33 PM

    Hey SP, Nancy is a l’il notorious on this forum (and i feel a l’il queasy that i know that….and that I said “l’il” twice.)

    Don’t waste your pretty time! <3

  17. Athena

    March 10, 2011 at 6:29 PM

    Like many of you, I found Michelle’s campy humor completely engaging and one of the main highlights of the season. My ONLY complaint about her was her “poor pitiful me” on the WTA. I wish she’d kept being more spunky like she was in her 1:1’s. The fact that she didn’t makes me wonder just how overly edited those spunky comments really were and whether the meek-girl personna we saw on WTA is a lot more of who she really is than the other one that I liked so much.

    If so…too bad.

  18. Sal1968

    March 10, 2011 at 7:23 PM

    What I find “too bad” is how many women admire Michelle & find her
    sarcastic attitude “spunky”. Michelle made it seem all about her. Every episode it was all about her.
    She was one person around the girls and someone else with Brad. I have no respect for her at all. She’s does indeed have some personality issues.
    I would not want to be her friend. i would not trust her – I think she’s a snake. But she did not deserve to be treated cruelly like she was by those catty women on the WTA.

  19. Trojan.footballs

    March 10, 2011 at 8:57 PM

    WTF is with this page loading FOUR videos that are obnoxious loud, that you can’t find without scrolling down the whole page, and that once you find them, you can’t stop easily anyway??? Every time I clicked on a link from this page, then came back, the page reloads and the noise from the four (Three of them the same eyebrow ad, btw) starts up again, wakes my dog, and gets him barking! C’mon Steve, spend a few minutes to learn good web design, please? …or get someone to help you!

  20. Dianne

    March 11, 2011 at 5:51 AM

    Small Peanut – do yourself a favour and ignore nancy. As you can see, she’s pretty rude and ignorant. She’ll lash out at anyone that she feels she can/needs to. Unfortunately, it seems to be your turn this week. Nancy certainly does need professional help in a huge way, but she doesn’t seem to care. So, as finerthings notes, don’t waste your time on’re only fueling her angry/rude rants, and we certainly don’t need to see that here.

  21. sweetness34

    March 12, 2011 at 10:28 AM

    @bahurupiya: Interesting post. I actually went back to 2/25 to see what you were referencing. I can understand ABC wanting to cast an accessible bachelorette, but I also don’t think accessible and bland necessarily equate.

    One point that Steve and ABC are overlooking is that human beings like looking at and watching pretty, good-looking human beings of both sexes. Magazines geared toward men and women always have beautiful women on the cover.

    Look at the typical romantic comedy heroines of the past 15 years–Meg Ryan, Julia Roberts, and Sandra Bullock. You rarely see a heroine that looks average. Many of your typical romantic comedies have a heroine that’s usually smart, witty, funny, and stylish. So the heroine is beautiful and has qualities that the female viewer looks up to, but the screen writers find ways to make her relatable. Plus, the actress has a certain degree of charisma that’s brought to the character.

    Yes, this is a reality show and not a movie. However, the same principles can apply. Steve is right that ABC won’t–and shouldn’t—cast a model with huge cans. Going back to the rom com analogy, Meg Ryan isn’t Pam Anderson. So yes, ABC shouldn’t cast a Pam Anderson-type as the Bachelorette, but they could try to cast a Meg Ryan or Sandra Bullock-type.

    For the show to be even semi-believable (if that’s even possible), you have to at least have some illusion that 25 good-looking and well-built men would actually want to compete over the bachelorette. To me, Jillian, Ali, and Ashley don’t fit that at all. They may be nice people and have some good qualities, and they attractive. However, “real-life” attractive and “TV” attractive are two separate things.

    You make good points about why Shawntel or Ashley S might not work, but this is where ABC needs to dig deeper and not automatically go to Ashley just because she was in the final 4. Steve is right that we’ll still watch, but I contend that ABC could do better.

  22. bahurupiya

    March 15, 2011 at 2:19 PM

    @sweetness34 Well, I was trying to balance my agreement with some of the phenomena Steve was describing, although obviously his views and mine on the subject of women have some differences.

    The blog is about the show, after all, not about his cultural values, or mine. 🙂

    “Bland” is a very subjective term. So much so that I hesitated to use it, and did so only because I was unable to think of a more appealing synonym!

    I totally agree with you about the movie heroines, in fact, that’s what I was trying to say, but you said it better, and in fewer words (though the latter may sound like damning by faint praise since I can’t order a pizza in a few words).

    Sandra Bulloch is a good example of a sort of accessible-aspirational fusion, as she is able to portray qualities of both.

    And while again, this is very subjective, many, if not most of her movies also tend to have strong storylines – and that’s the main way that The Bachelor diverges.

    The Bachelor storyline, if we can even call it that, is minimal: one guy or girl – a mess of suitors, last contender standing wins big plush.

    Unlike the movie script, it’s principal purpose is identification. Young men and women are intended to see themselves in the Bacheor/Bachelorette, and in order that the largest number of viewers may do that, the ideal candidate must be – like the traditional “ingenue” or “leading lady” in telenovelas, be as devoid of the impediment and distraction of personality characteristics as possible.

    Kind of like many “office cultures,” where the workers most likely to succeed will be the ones who do the best job of leaving their “personal” selves at home, and maintaining a consistent “professional demeanor” in the workplace.

    The focus is on the business, the product or service being sold to the customer. They’re not there to enjoy the worker’s charming ways or rapier wit!

    Thus must the focus of the Bachelor/Bachelorette be to remain not only accessible, but “identifiable with” as many viewers as possible, because that translates into a larger number of dollars for ABC!

    If I may be forgiven for repeating myself, it’s called “average” for a reason, and just as most of us have “average intelligence,” so do most of us have “average” personalities, meaning that most of us are not remarkable, we do not “stand out,” the average person is not a hoot.

    If the Bachelor/Bachelorette should be more “personable” than average, and as you point out, more physically attractive than average – like everybody else on TV.

    Would the Duggar family be in their 6th season if they did not all have good TV faces, slim builds and excellent dentition?

    So the goal is not so much to present the reality of average, but to achieve the appearance, perception, and zeitgeist of an idealized average.

    Whew! Now my fingers are tired!

  23. sweetness34

    March 22, 2011 at 9:00 AM

    @bahurupiya I think you make good points. In pondering it further, maybe I’m holding the potential Bachelorettes to a too high standard. Perhaps I was trying to equate the Bachelor and Bachelorette too much. When the Bachelor first started (thinking all the way back to the Alex and Aaron seasons), it seemed like ABC would pick a guy that they thought many women would like to date–good looking, fit, financially stable/wealthy, good personality,etc.

    They’ve obviously gone a different way with the Bachelorette and I think for the very reasons you state, especially since the show is geared towards women.

    Anyway, I appreciate your posts and your insights. I was a bit hard on Ashley being selected, but I think she’s likable in many ways and like I said, “real-life attractive”, so I’ll just get on board with it and root for her.

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