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Bachelor Pad 2

More “Reader Emails”, Michael’s Excellent Post Show Interview, & What Does a “Bachelor” Acceptance Letter Look Like? – 9/15/11

So here’s how the next few months are gonna play out in terms of my column. Since DWTS is on Mondays, and “Surivor” and “X Factor” is on Wednesdays, looks like “Reality Roundup” will be up on Thursday’s for the time being, which will include my thoughts on those three shows plus others and “Reader Emails”. In terms of any “Bachelor” news, that can come whenever. There’s not gonna be a set time when I’m gonna post that. I’ll try to post it in Thursday’s column, but no guarantee. If I get news or something over the weekend, and don’t feel like it can wait til Thursday, then I’ll post it Monday. Also, in addition to my “Reality Roundup”, there will be a “Survivor” column up every Thursday by Scott Ottersen, the guy who wrote the “Big Brother” recaps this season. His episode one recap is up now, so go check it out.

Wanted to point something out from the finale that I missed but an emailer brought to my attention. I’m guessing 99% of America missed it, which is why they were able to sell the “Vienna still hates Jake” storyline. It was when Kasey and Jake got up to hug it out. The video describes exactly what type of editing went on:

So yeah, they had a storyline of “Vienna still hates Jake”, and to continue with that, they show the quick clip of the pouty face in the middle of Kasey and Jake’s hug, which completely wasn’t the face she was making. That filming last almost 8 hours. The cameras are on you non stop. I never believe any facial reactions shown on this show because they could’ve come from any moment in the show. They just splice them in to create a storyline. Vienna has even said since the show ended she was fine with the Kasey and Jake hug, but the editing makes you think otherwise. Yet another poor editing job to try and sell the audience a story that wasn’t there. Only problem was, 99% of America bought it.

The girls arrive in LA on Saturday to be sequestered into their hotel rooms until the Meet and Greet begins filming on Tuesday night. I’m still debating when I will be releasing names and photos from this season. I just got two more names, so the total is up to nine that I have right now. Man, I’m over 1/3rd of the way there already. This is almost getting too easy. Definitely will release a couple names next week, but I’m not sure what day and how many. Keep it here though all during Ben’s season being filmed because stuff will be coming down fast and furious I assume. Hell, last year we were getting pictures from dates as they were happening. Will it happen this season? I have no idea. Maybe, maybe not. I will post what I know when I know it.

This will probably be the last column where “Bachelor Pad” related stuff, most notably the Holly/Michael/Blake triangle, will be addressed at length. I’m sure I’ll make references in the future to it, but since Holly and Michael both gave their exit interviews this week, I have some comments about them. First off, props to Michael for being such a stand up guy. Check out his full interview with the media this week by clicking on this link: – Michael Stagliano Conference Call

This guy pretty much nailed it on every answer he gave. 100% brutally honest, didn’t sugar coat anything, and really lets everyone know what he thought of the whole situation and how it went down. Some of my highlights from the interview:

When asked about Holly not contacting him to tell him before the taping, here’s what he said:

“…I don’t think there’s another way to say it, it was really sh*tty what she did and what happened. I really do feel like ABC had their role in keeping that information from me, I totally get that, but you know Blake and Holly both have said — what does this sentence mean, they said “We tried to call you.” You know what I mean? They had 48 hours, they got engaged on Sunday, the finale filmed on Tuesday. They had maybe 36 hours, but like I don’t get what that sentence means “I tried to call you.” It’s 2011, if you pick up a phone and dial the number that’s my number, I’ll pick it up in seconds.

So, and then, even to take it a step further, just out of respect for me — which I have certainly shown Blake and Holly the utmost respect this entire time, especially Holly — I think I would’ve gotten, I KNOW I would’ve gotten to the point where if the situation were reversed I would have not gone on stage. I would’ve put my foot down and said “There’s no way we’re going to let this happen. That we’re going to let him get blindsided and not find out about the engagement until he’s on national television and in front of a live studio audience and has the whole pressure of the game on him and then boom.” You know what I mean? I really feel like that was really terrible and really hurt me a lot and made me really disappointed in Holly. I really wish I could say it differently. I tried to handle it the best I could on the show, which was not freaking out and blowing up ‘cause I was really upset. But yeah, that really, really upset me and makes it really hard to, yeah, be great friends with Holly and be great friends with Blake and really wish them well. And I do, I do wish them well but, yeah, you know, it really upsets me.”

Great answer. The proposal was on Sunday. Michael’s phone wasn’t taken away until Monday night. If Holly REALLY wanted him to know, she would’ve found a way to tell him. And if it stated in her and Blake’s contract that they were not allowed to tell Michael, then just say that. Don’t say “I tried contacting him.” What does that mean?

As for his feelings on Blake, I loved this answer:

“…I think you can tell a lot by someone’s actions and also somewhat by what they say and I think on both of those accounts, yeah, unfortunately I don’t think Blake is a good guy. Examples of that are, I think that if you knowingly manipulate a woman to have feelings for you and kiss her and tell her things and promise her things and then when she kind of figures out that’s not really the case and is really upset about it, I think for — on national television — for you to call her a shrew of a bitch and Hurricane Melissa and all those things, I think a good guy doesn’t do that. I think a good guy would not do that.

And then none of this really aired, well none of it aired at all, but Blake actually kind of made a deal with me, came to me after he won the kissing contest and said “Hey, look I kind of realize where Melissa and I are at in the alliance, we’re kind of on the outskirts. So I want to make a deal with you where I’ll take Holly on a date, purely for strategy reasons, I’ll give her the rose and keep her safe as long as you keep Melissa around.” And, again, just one step further with that, he was shaking my hand, he looked me in the eyes and said, like, “I know where you guys are at. I know that you guys are trying to get back together, that she’s your ex-fiancé, I totally get it. It’s just purely strategy. I’m going to be totally respectful and not do anything.” And then even when he came up to Holly in the mixer to take her on the date, he shook my hand again and said “Look, you have nothing to worry about, man, I’m going to be respectful.” And then came back, you know, and kissed her. And then tried to tell Kasey and Vienna that the whole thing was my idea. So, again, I just don’t think a good guy does that.”

Yet another part of the game that was never shown, which was the reason behind Blake taking Holly on his 1-on-1 date instead of Melissa? After reading what Michael said REALLY went down, don’t you think the audience would’ve liked to have known that? Of course they would. But the storyline was much juicier if they just show Blake picking Holly and Melissa freaking out because she thought it was gonna be her. Producer manipulation at its best. And Michael’s sentiments towards Blake are on par with pretty much a lot of the people in the house feel towards the guy and that’s, well, he’s just not a good person.

And lastly, he couldn’t have been more dead on in what he thinks about Holly’s sudden engagement and move to South Carolina:

“… I found out about two weeks before we started taping. So I guess about three weeks ago now. I actually had to ask her, because I had heard from some of the castmates that she was moving, so I said “Are you moving to South Carolina?” and she said “Yes, I’m moving with with him.” Then I said “Do you have a job out there lined up? What are you going to do?” She said she didn’t know. And then, I didn’t say anything. Obviously I wanted to say a lot of things but I’m the last person in the world whose opinion matters in that scenario. So I didn’t say anything. And all she said after that was ‘I don’t know what I’m doing.’… I don’t know fully the relationship. I’m sure they’re great and she’s obviously very in love and I really do hope it works out, but I think it’s tough. I think she’s going down a tough road. She’s removed herself from everyone she knows and loves out here and from her job and doesn’t have a job out there and is moving in with him, a dude she’s only known for two or three months. So, yeah, I think that just sounds tough.”

Couldn’t have said it better myself. She’s completely isolated herself from her real friends to go live with a guy. Sure, she’ll meet people in South Carolina, but those people will only care to be her friend because of who she is and because she was on TV. Those people come and go. Those aren’t your “real” friends. So let’s see how she does with all that. Hey, maybe those two get married, stay married for 50 years, and will all laugh at the naysayers years from now. I highly doubt it.

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  1. mkc1

    September 15, 2011 at 1:39 PM

    Oh my gosh, I SWEAR I noticed the Vienna smiling at Jake/Kasey hugging thing and I was gonna email you to ask if you had seen it, but I forgot. I can’t believe you noticed it too! I paused and went back like 10 times just to make sure I wasn’t seeing things.

  2. lexasmygirl

    September 15, 2011 at 2:25 PM

    First of all, anyone who doesn’t realize that reality shows are manipulated must be living on Mars. Even talent shows like American Idol are manipulated.

    So on to that master manipulation…Vienna’s look to Kasey when he and Jake were hugging. Does anyone really care what they all think of each other? Love or hate…don’t like anyone of them nor do I care. A bunch of loonies, if you ask me.

    Michael is a class act. He is lucky to be done with Holly. She’s immature and IMO she’s in love with love. He got off lucky.

  3. morrigan0

    September 15, 2011 at 3:46 PM

    Is it just me or did Ben look MORE like Constantine in the introduction video? I can only assume it’s because they weren’t together to compare.

  4. realitybiteth

    September 15, 2011 at 6:51 PM

    The reason the women move to the man’s town is because they tend to pair up younger women with older men.

    Older people tend to be more established in their careers, so it’s easier for the younger party to move.

    For the last 3 seasons at least, a 100% reliable predictor of the preferred female was the YOUNGEST ONE.

    Ages that I recall (may not be 100% correct):

    Molly was around 24 (Melissa was TOO OLD at 25, which Jason realized right after he picked her). Jason 32, +8 years, and had a son he couldn’t move away from shared-custody parent, and was an account executive. Molly was a department store buyer.

    Vienna was 23. Jake 31, +8 years. He was a pilot with a house near the 4th busiest airport in the WORLD. Vienna, no career.

    Emily was 24. (Chantal WAY too old at 28) Brad 38, +14 years, owned brick-and-mortar business. Emily was an event planner.

    Ashley was 26 and not done with schooling yet, so she is *starting* her career in NYC. JP was 34, +8 years again.

    Remember Ali, she picked her career initially over the bachelor and left. When she became Bachelorette, didn’t she quit her job? Roberto still had his. And San Diego is a lot warmer than SF anyway!

    And I’ve read they paid Brad $500,000 to be Bachelor so apparently if you get the gig, you’re not gonna be hurting for money for a while. Ali could afford to not have to work.

    I don’t know about DeAnna. Did anyone move in or was it over too fast?

    Holly and Blake: Blake is a year younger but he just BOUGHT a dental practice. Holly is a “children’s book author”, much easier for HER to move, plus she has the $125k (before taxes).

    Jillian moved to Ed’s town because her career ambitions were easier to relocate than his (restaurant interior designer vs. an executive at Microsoft). Afterward she got gigs on US television which is a little easier when you live in the US.

    If they ever have a 35-year-old career woman AND she chooses, say, a 25-year-old grad student, I’m sure he’d move to where she is.

    But that is unlikely to happen because successful women almost ALWAYS marry a MORE successful man. If she’s a neurosurgeon, she’ll marry the *head* of neurosurgery.

    Katrina Shreiber was the first woman admitted to the largest neurosurgery residency in the world at Uni. Pittsburgh, and she married Andrew Firlik, an established neurosurgeon, who became a Venture Capitalist (re: RICH) and also is on an advisory board AND an advisory council at Cornell, where he was ALSO an assistant professor at NYU medical.

    The woman with the highest IQ (Marilyn vos Savant) of anyone on record, of either gender, married the *inventor of the artificial heart*, Dr. Robert Jarvik.

    JK Rowling is SO rich, finding a RICHER guy wasn’t an option, but whereas she wrote children’s books, she married a doctor who’s also an anesthesiologist. He has vastly more formal education and saves lives directly. If one of them had to relocate, he is established at a hospital while she writes in coffee shops.

    So the answer basically boils down to the fact that women are attracted to more successful men, because successful men can better support offspring, and it takes time to be successful so they tend to be older; PLUS men are attracted to younger women, because younger women would be more successful at *having* lots of healthy offspring. And a successful man is probably already living where he wants to (Chicago, Dallas, San Diego, NYC) while a young woman is often living wherever her parents happened to move to have kids, often smaller towns that are better for kids but worse for career prospects. *Cough* Chico. Poor Shawntel.

    tl;dr: Biology

  5. kimone

    September 15, 2011 at 6:53 PM

    Crazy…I think Lacey Pemberton was one of the card dealers on Card Sharks back in the 80s. She seems so sweet on that show. Who would’ve thought years later she’d be in such an entangled web of deception.

  6. colson521

    September 15, 2011 at 7:13 PM

    I caught that smile/frown edit and tweeted about it on Monday night. The other thing I found is this picture from the finale that shows Jake and Vienna hugging. ABC needs to get over this story line. I am sure they were keeping up the fight in the house because that’s what producers wanted but they are really past it.

    Picture of the Jake Vienna hug….

  7. jcrb

    September 15, 2011 at 7:45 PM

    For the record, Roberto moved to California to be with Ali; they moved to a neutral city.

  8. kimone

    September 16, 2011 at 5:27 AM

    You would think after ABC rips you apart in editing that you wouldn’t want anything to do with them anymore. IE: Rego. He might be a bad example since his ego is obviously much bigger than his pride, but Vienna…you would think now after getting such a bad edit, she’d be done. They said they were gonna lay low for a while, but I doubt it. I would be livid if ABC edited my story that way and made me look like a biotch at the finale, knowing that wasn’t the case at all. People will do anything for fame, I guess.

  9. DawsMA

    September 16, 2011 at 6:34 AM

    3 seasons ago? So Brad’s season then? I’ll guess Marissa; she seems eager to have a role in the Bachelor/ette/BP mix. I’d be surprised if it was anyone in the top 3, although maybe Emily. Chantal seems so far removed from the spotlight.

    Actually it is probably some obscure random who was let go the first night or something.

    I can’t believe people still bother to email Steve and ask who his sources are or why he doesn’t like Holly. He has been pretty adamant about keeping those things private. Particularly the sources; I mean, don’t these people realize if he said who they were, the spoilers would likely stop coming?

  10. Momma2

    September 16, 2011 at 8:28 AM

    Thanks Reality Steve for your blog – love it and have shared it with many friends!!
    Just thought i’d let everyone know that Steve’s prediction about Mark Ballas was soooo on the money! He and Pia Toscana broke up just recently…well whatdya know!?!?! Since he and Kristin have started rehearsals for DWTS, now he’s got his eyes on her!! Go figures!

  11. luv it

    September 16, 2011 at 9:49 AM

    Here’s a quote regarding Jake’s decision to appear on BP….from

    And Jake, meanwhile, came off pretty well.
    Harrison: He came on for one reason and that was to rehab his public image. He accomplished exactly what he set out to do.

    Wish Jake would just admit he wants to be an actor; and let the chips fall were they may in the unemployment line.

  12. mommyof2

    September 16, 2011 at 10:58 AM

    Thanks for the form letter, Steve! Very interesting. I noticed a long time ago that the contestants never wear sunglasses and are often squinting on camera when the sun is in their eyes. It was really obvious during Ashley’s season b/c she was always shielding her eyes with her hands. She must have eyes that are really sensitive to light, like me.

    Also, I loved Mike S.’s interview. He is such a good guy. He says in it that he’s giving 10-percent of his winnings to his church, too, paying off debt, taking a much-needed vacation, and then what little is left will go into savings. Sounds very rational, so I’m happy for him. I love how open and honest he was about his thoughts and feelings. I don’t fault Holly so much for all of this as I do Blake. She and Michael were broken up and she developed feelings for Blake (who knows why, though). She still stayed loyal to her partnership with Michael, which is good. I doubt she had anything to do with the proposal, so that was on Blake. The only thing is that she should have called Mike ahead of time or refused to go on stage for the finale until she spoke to Mike privately first. Blake, however, is another story. He could’ve waited to propose AFTER the finale to spare Mike the shock, hurt, embarrassment, etc… But, Blake was just thinking about Blake. I doubt he and Holly will last. He seems to be too obsessed with “winning” and himself. Maybe I’m wrong, but this is just my opinion.

  13. Sunnyside422

    September 17, 2011 at 8:55 AM

    Of course Fakey Jakey came to Bachelor Pad 2 to rehab his reputation. Also to get some much needed camera time in the hope he can actually get a real acting job. NOT! Say what you will about Vienna, she knows what he is and what he is all about. Nothing that comes out of his smarmy mouth is to be believed. He is still in love with himself and telling that he still doesn’t ahve a relationship going with a woman. Here’s hoping he disappears once and for all. Don’t want to see shrimpy ever again!

  14. JenJen

    September 17, 2011 at 11:19 AM

    Twit pic of Jake and Vienna hugging

  15. MizSazzy

    September 18, 2011 at 1:00 AM

    Did Bryon move to Mary?

  16. jdub

    September 19, 2011 at 1:21 PM

    Congratulations ON the Kyle CHANDLER win.

  17. mermaidadrift

    September 19, 2011 at 4:03 PM

    curious why no one is talking about holly’s integrity? she played both guys pretty well and no one has commented on that. maybe she and blake are suited to one another….

  18. karynr

    September 21, 2011 at 7:44 AM

    mermaidadrift….no one has commented on Holly’s LACK of integrity, as anyone who would want a relationship with Blake, after watching HIS apparent lack of integrity, probably doesn’t place a lot of importance on it, which tells you all you need to know about both of them. How any woman could do what she did to Michael on national television, plus watch how Blake treated Melissa and still want to be with him, is beyond me. She seems like she might be a nice person, but she is sure messed up about what she wants out of life. And to move across country to be with someone she has only know a couple months makes her look needy, desperate and unable to be on her own, without a man. I wold love to know what her friends and family think about that slimy man. I was hoping she would watch him on BP and run the other way after that, but the fact that she didn’t speaks volumes about what is important to her. Holly gets her sleazy man and Michael can now move on to someone who actually has integrity.

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