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“Reader Emails,” “Dr. Reality Steve”, Ashley & JP, Update on “Bachelor” Filming, & The Lowe Family Sure Likes Their World Records

Just a few “Reader Emails” to get to today since there probably won’t be another column until next week. Enjoy…

Hey Steve,

What are you talking about? Jef and Emily are clearly happy together. Haven’t you seen all the cute pics on Twitter with them smiling together?

Comment: Yes, of course. Because we all know the more pictures and tweets you constantly send out about your significant other totally tells the full picture of how in love a couple is. I thoroughly enjoyed the sarcasm in that email. Couldn’t agree more. Twitter and Instagram means nothing. Sorry. If people think they know about Jef and Emily’s relationship because of what they tweet and post pictures of (which lets face it, is what 99% of their fans are going off of because they don’t have anything else to cling on to), then of course they’re going to think everything is fine. Why wouldn’t they? Let them keep thinking that and eventually, they’ll be brought back to reality. Probably sooner rather than later.

Hello! I have a few mostly pointless questions.

1) How long does Paige last?

2) I didn’t watch all of Emily’s season as her incredibly high pitched voice drove me crazy, so I don’t know much about Sean. Is he religious enough that a girl not being religious would cause him not to pick her? If so, that seems strange because Emily wasn’t religious (?) and he wanted to be with her.

3) Why don’t you think he and Kacey B. would work?

4) Irrelevant, but do you read any good Survivor review sites/blogs that you could recommend? I followed an awesome review blog, but they stopped blogging this season, and I’m missing out!

Comment: 1. She got eliminated on the first night.

2. I don’t think Sean will pick anyone that doesn’t have a strong sense of faith, moral values, and a relationship with God. There’s a difference between being religious and having a relationship with God. I don’t think they necessarily have to be a religious person for Sean to pick them. But he’s not going to pick someone that doesn’t believe in God.

3. If Sean wanted to be with Kacie, he would’ve been with her and they would’ve hit it off when they hung out for a weekend in New York back in September. They didn’t. I have no idea why she decided to do the show.

4. Yes, read Scott Ottersen’s blog that I run on this site. Go to “Shows” in the navigation bar up top, then click “Suvivor.” His column runs every Thursday. And in the post below this one, you can see the interview he did with “Survivor: One World’s” Christina Cha.

1. You have some CRAZY followers. The type that will only believe what they want and then write the most asinine things in your comment section. Why do they bother reading? They need anger management. And a job. True story.

2. I really hope you compile a list of contestants who knew each other before the show so maybe that will make these crazies realize how bogus this show is (Kalon and Erica, Michelle Money and Jef and the other weird Utah dude, now Jef’s hairdresser, Sean and some past no name dude who he works out with, Arie and Cassie, Emily and Chris and I believe Charlie). I’m sure I’m missing others. Out of millions of people they have no choice but to go with a 2 degree of separation cast? It is insane how no one picks up on this and asks Fleiss what’s up. And now Kacie and Sean..if he liked her, he would’ve asked her out at that charity event. So dumb! And I’m sure she knew about being on the show at that point. Even dumber.

3. If Emily is worried about looking like an ass for being engaged 3 times, maybe she should stay off tv and quit posting pics of her daughter on twitter for the world to see. And she should get a job, too. Wait.. I bet she’s one of the jobless crazies in your comments section..

Comment: 1. Nothing I can do will change that. They are what they are. As long as I can illicit that type of reaction out of people, I must be doing something right.

2. There are others, but have some degree of separation from past contestants, but off the top of my head, I can’t remember. And yes, I completely agree on the Kacie thing. If Sean wanted to date her, or at least hook up with her, he would’ve back in September. He didn’t. And for those that are thinking they are using Kacie to set her up for the “Bachelorette,” you’ve got another thing coming. That’s not going to happen. I’m sure it’s going to speculated, and sure they might consider her, but they didn’t need to put her on this season to set her up as the “Bachelorette.” She already had a fan following. She didn’t need this. Plus, three seasons out of four that Kacie appears on? I think there might be Kacie B. overkill if that happens.

3. Emily knew what she was getting into the minute she signed up to be the “Bachelorette.” So any negativity publicity she’s getting about her and Jef she brought upon herself by changing her mind and agreeing to do the “Bachelorette.” I said this back in January that I didn’t understand why she changed her mind, I wish she hadn’t, but hey, it’s done and she’s gonna do it. That’s fine, but just don’t complain or get upset at things written about you since you’d already gone through it once with Brad. She knew it’d happen again, and she knew paparazzi would be on her tail the second her season ended. So as much as some people may want to, it’s very hard to feel sorry for someone in this situation. She could’ve avoided all of it and she chose not to.


I have enjoyed reading your columns for several years. Love the spoilers, then watching the shows. This is my first time to email you.

This afternoon I was watching the Judge Mathis show. They announced the defendant as Suzanne Freeman, an actress who was previously on the Bachelor. I had to google her name to find out which season she was on. It was Aaron Buerge’s season.

After some questions and answers, Judy Mathis asked Ms. Freeman, “They aren’t acting on the Bachelor, are they?”

Ms. Freeman answered, “The producers are very skilled in manipulating the situations, but there is no acting.”

Comment: One of the only two seasons I never saw, so I don’t remember Suzanne. However what she said has been said on this site about 1,000 times. These people aren’t actors (for the most part). Are they given a script where they have to memorize lines? No. But are they put in situations and told to say or talk about certain things that will cause drama? Absolutely. Producers will manipulate any situation they want to get their desired result.

You present a very convincing argument with your recent blog on the Jef Holm/Kaylee Shepherd situation. I think that poor Kaylee was an ongoing casual fling who obviously thought she meant more to him. Her emails to you were totally credible … young girl hoping her guy doesn’t last long on the show and hoping you can provide her insider scoop during production. Her last email to you – when she discovered that he was dating several others – broke my heart. I also completely believe that he was looking for a fast & uncomplicated hook up when he went to Utah solo and thought that Kaylee was his perfect booty call. He probably fed her whatever garbage that he thought was necessary to get her to perform her magic on him … as only “virgin” Mormons girls can.

Question for you … do you think that Jef, PeopleWater and/or ABC have hired (or added job responsibilities) to interns or lower level marketing/PR associates to essentially spam Jokers Update and other forums that all is well with Jef & Emily and anyone who suggests otherwise are wrong or low life scum or just looking for fast money/5 minutes of fame? If you go to jokers, you’ll see a poster like ment2b, in particular, who joined the site right before the first scandal broke in August. Now this person has posted 1,500 messages since joining on August 18th and he/she is fanatical that all is well with Jef & Emily. It’s like Jef is Justin Bieber and ment2b is the 14 year old president of his fan club. The posts on there are really starting to turn me off as an Emily fan and now floundering Jef & Emily fan.

(This emailer then went on to link to 3 particular posts where this person claims to know all this stuff about Jef and Emily and everything is great).

These posts just as much as what you shared are making me think that there is something fishy going on and that the relationship – for Jef anyway – is just some way for him to promote PeopleWater and take his brand national by leveraging social media. The guy/company are genius and should write a book on how to build a brand off of the back of the Bachelor/ette. I honestly thought that Emily fell hard for him, which I still believe, and that he fell hard for her, which I am seriously starting to question. Gosh, I feel like a fool!

So my question is this … do you think “anonymous” posters like ment2b on Jokers Update is 1) paid social media associate or intern doing a job, 2) Jef, Emily or folks speaking on their behalf just to set record straight or 3) just cuckoo fans who have really nothing better to do than obsess over and think they somehow “know” Jef/Emily.

Comment: I don’t visit message boards, so I can’t speak for this particular poster you’re talking about. However, I can say this with 100% certainty: If you’ve posted on a message board 1,500 times since August, you are a bona fide loser. If every one of those posts was negative, hateful things, you’re a loser. If every one was a positive, glowing picture of Jef and Emily as a couple, you’re a loser. Get a life. What normal human being has the time to post 1,500 times on message board in 3 months? Are you kidding me? And you wonder why I don’t ever have anything nice to say about these people. I’m sorry, but that’s just wrong. There isn’t a single person on this planet that can try and convince me someone that posts that much on a message board, about a REALITY TV show of all things, doesn’t have something seriously wrong with them. Whether they’re lonely, or in search of friends, or whatever the deal is, no one should ever have that much time to dedicate to something so insignificant. 1,500 posts? That boggles my mind.

Hi Steve–I have a question for you. Why no info on “Dancing With The Stars”? It has been deemed “best reality show of all time” and it certainly is my favorite guilty pleasure show, so I was just curious?

Comment: Info as in spoilers? Or info as in “Why don’t you write about it?” There are no spoilers since the show is live every Monday night. Why don’t I write about it? Fair question. I think I might bring back “Reality Roundup” soon where I talk about “DWTS,” “Survivor,” “X Factor,” and “The Voice.”

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  1. heliofan

    October 3, 2012 at 11:35 AM

    Go O’s!!

  2. Sunnyside422

    October 3, 2012 at 12:16 PM

    Well judging by the picture shown of Sean “kissing” he is still horrible at it. Still in the sucking the upper lip or a woman as his version of kissing. Ugh! I can’t watch him do that…turns my stomach.

    Of course he is on the show…he was rejected and now needs to show everyone that all these women adore him! Take that Emily!

    If indeed Jef & Emily are fake, I feel for Ricki who probably has become attached to him as her possible daddy. Horrible of them both for doing this to a 7 year old.

  3. Sunnyside422

    October 3, 2012 at 12:17 PM

    Sorry…Upper lip OF a woman! No attraction for him whatsoever “kissing” or not!

  4. lcs85

    October 3, 2012 at 1:34 PM

    Was just looking at Jef’s twitter and noticed he posted a picture of Emily, but tagged her using a different Twitter account, emilyGmaynard. He has also been tagging her with this account for a few weeks now. Some account that has only had 4 posts since it was started in July. Seemed a little odd.

    The tagline for this other account was Jef’s storybook romance quote. Seems far fetched, but maybe Jef created this new account as a way to tag Emily in his posts so he looks like the one who is still in love without actually having to tag Emily in his tweets.

    But then shortly after Jef tweeted Emily’s picture saying he was so in love, Emily tweeted a picture with the caption “The Reason My Heart Smiles.” But her picture wasn’t her and Jef, it was Emily and Ricki. Nothing wrong with her posting that picture, the timing of it just seemed interesting. Almost as a response to Jef’s tweet that she didn’t feel the same way about him, and Ricki was the only one in her life.

    Like I said, far fetched. But thats what happens when I’m sick in bed with nothing else to do.

    Then there were comments on the photo about how they were so cute in their twitter conversation yesterday, that has sense been deleted from both of their pages. Also seemed odd. If such tweets did exist, why would they delete them?

  5. lisa e

    October 3, 2012 at 1:55 PM

    SEAN LOWE doing a Guiness Book record for ANY sort of kissing is just a scary thought! That poor girl deserves a do-over date! Which twisted producer (Elan!) came up that one?

    And to lcs85 above -the emilygmaynard account is legit. It’s been in play for a long while. Jef did not create it.

  6. Athena

    October 3, 2012 at 3:04 PM

    Just about everyone makes a big point about poor Rickie and how she might be getting attached to Jef only to have him disappear. I respectfully disagree. Assuming that when the three of them are together there isn’t a big point being made about Jef becoming her new “Daddy”. If he’s simply referred to as “Mommy’s friend”, then kids are usually fine with whatever happens down the line. They don’t have the same kind of concept of “engaged” that adults do. Of course she might miss him if all of a sudden he’s not around anymore, but kids have lots of people who come and go from their lives in various ways without it harming them.

  7. lcs85

    October 3, 2012 at 3:15 PM

    @lisa e I just thought it seemed odd that he started tagging her with a twitter account that doesn’t look like it is used.

  8. jtee10

    October 3, 2012 at 3:58 PM

    The reason he uses @emilygmaynard is because that’s her instagram handle which is different from her twitter. When he posts the pic on Instagram he’s tagging her on IG which is linked to Twitter. Make sense?

  9. Tiffany_Michelle

    October 3, 2012 at 5:09 PM

    Jef has said Rcki knows he’s not just another guy because Ricki tells her mom “you love Jef,” so I definitely don’t believe anything is fake between them. When they’re hanging out with Ricki they hold hands and act like a couple. Emily wouldn’t subject her little girl to that if it wasn’t real, in my opinion.

    Whenever Jef posts on Instagram, he tags Emily’s Instagram account which is emilygmaynard. lcs85, you could’ve figured that out in less time it took you to write your post and crazy theory. 😉

  10. Tiffany_Michelle

    October 3, 2012 at 5:17 PM

    Jef & Emily’s tweets to each other yesterday are still there, no one deleted anything.

  11. chloesmoma

    October 4, 2012 at 9:03 AM

    anyone can do a little research and go to and go to Monte Holm’s profile where is clearly lists Carl as his father, the name of his mom is one of the women on the picture of the 11 wives…if you google Rodney Holm bigamy is will show he was a cop in st george and was convicted of bigamy…I think one of the girls was 16!!!!! They both opened themselves up this scrutiny when they chose fame….We shall see is she shows up in Laguna beach tonight at the charity event they both are suppose to appear at…I think they are done, he has not posted any pics of them together in weeks….no lovey dovey posts except that generic one yesterday and she has posted NOTHING about him…I think they are done, just waiting for the news to become public…

  12. lcs85

    October 4, 2012 at 11:00 AM

    @Tiffany_Michelle He used to tag her as just EmilyMaynard, I was just curious about the change.

    And I don’t see an tweets to each other, the only thing on Emily’s account from the past few days is her talking about getting her nails done, and 2 pictures of Ricki and her. Nothing about Jef.

    @Chloesmoma- I think Jef saw your comment lol. He’s complaining on twitter about the media going after his family.

  13. mommyof2

    October 4, 2012 at 12:02 PM

    I noticed the same thing about Twitter. First of all, Emily’s legit Twitter account is EmilyMaynard. Check it out, and you’ll see tons of followers and the legitimate blue check by her account name. Emily’s Instagram account, however, is EmilyGMaynard. Her Instagram account (EmilyGMaynard) links to her legit Twitter account (EmilyMaynard), NOT the fake Twitter account (EmilyGMaynard). I did notice that Jef has been tagging HIS Instagram account’s pictures to Emily’s FAKE Twitter account. Either 1.) It was a mistake on his part, having been confused between her two legit accounts of Instagram and Twitter- meaning, he meant to tag her legit Instagram EmilyGMaynard account, but accidentally tagged the fake Twitter account. 2.) It was a mistake on his part where he meant to tag her legit Twitter account of EmilyMaynard, but used her Instagram account name of EmilyGMaynard by accident, so it posted to the fake Twitter account under that same handle. OR 3.) Jef purposely set up the fake Twitter account of EmilyGMaynard, hoping to carry on their fake relationship and mislead the public into thinking it’s real b/c they may see that EmilyGMaynard is her legit Instagram handle. Number 3 seems far-fetched in that the fake EmilyGMaynard Twitter account has very few followers, no Tweets, and no blue checkmark, so anyone looking at it would know it’s fake, thereby exposing Jef’s manipulation. I would think Jef is smarter than to think people are that dumb, but it is possible that he did this. I believe, however, that he made a mistake, confusing Em’s two handles in Twitter and Instagram, and somebody else set up the fake account. Even if it was a mistake, it doesn’t mean their relationship isn’t fake. It could be real, it could be fake, who knows. I did notice that Emily tweeted the picture of her daughter and her with the caption, “The Reason My Heart Smiles”. That could very well be a message to Jef and everyone else that Ricki is the one love in her life, and not Jef. Who knows!

  14. mommyof2

    October 4, 2012 at 12:10 PM

    Hope my above explanation makes sense. It did as I was writing it. Again, even if Jef made a mistake, it doesn’t mean they are together if they truly made a pact to carry on a fake relationship. I hope their relationship is real and that the sexting thing on em’s part and the Kaylee thing on Jef’s part are untrue. But, then again, everything points to both having happened. If they are truly carrying on a fake relationship, then it is flat-out wrong to do this to Ricki, their families, and even to themselves. Emily shouldn’t care if people make fun of her for having been engaged 3 times and never marrying. If it’s fake, then cut it out now rather than dragging it on. She’ll be the one who got engaged 3 times without having married if they broke up 2 months ago, or they break up next year. And as far as Jef is concerned, if all of this is true, he’s an idiot 1.) for sticking by Emily after the sexting stuff, 2.) going to see Kaylee and thinking paps wouldn’t catch him and/or Kaylee wouldn’t talk, and 3.) continuing on with a fake engagement for money when all it can do is hurt his image (his image would’ve been intact had he broken up with Em after the sexting stuff). If none of this is true, then I feel sorry for Jef, Emily, and Ricki b/c these false rumors are just terrible. I don’t know what to believe, and frankly, I don’t care. Last night’s presidential debate, this election, the economy, and foreign policy issues are much more important.

  15. woogs

    October 4, 2012 at 1:20 PM

    I have stated before and I will say it again (business is slow and Im bored), Jef and Em asked for this. He is building a business and look how that business has grown since the finale. Of course a 28 year old is going to seize the opportunity. If he’s with her legit or not, right now is the time for him to splash People Water everywhere! He is NOT Ricki’s father, I get so tired of hearing that. That is a commitment in a marriage to become the step Dad. If my 2 kids, called everyone I date Dad, after my divorce, they would be in therapy. Come on, this is so stupid, and addicting. What is up with that, I only ever came here during the season, now Im goggling Jef daily. One other thing, WHERE DID THEY GET THESE TWITTER BULLIES? I had no idea there was so many bitches on Twitter AND they pretend in their own minds that, everyone else is negative and insane. Do Jef and Emily really want those types of fans?? Or will any old fan do? I heard the other day about women who donated, money, to PW that were broke, lost homes, and didn’t have the money to spare, just to see their name and message on the list. Is this cool?

  16. maxi

    October 4, 2012 at 1:39 PM

    About the twitter names, When Jef uses the emilygmaynard name, it is because he is sending the pic from instagram and tagging her instagram, BUT he is also sending the pic to his twitter account, which in turn makes the fake Emily account get tagged. Not sure I explained that right, but that is how I understand it works.

  17. nat0ep

    October 4, 2012 at 2:07 PM

    This whole debate on how Jef tags his tweets has been going on for months. Jef adressed it himself a few months back on twitter. It’s easy: when there is a picture attached, he adds the g; no picture, it’s direct to emily’s twitter account. Easypeasy. As for the none exchanges over twitter, there was one two or three days ago, where each one of them adressed the rumors by joking around about it. That being said, twitter exchanges or not, they are necessarily the only one’s who know what’s going on… and that’s the way it should be.
    And I completely agree with @woogs : Last night’s presidential debate, this election, the economy, and foreign policy issues are much more important.
    That being said, what I question is why are people so obsessed with this couple and what does that say about oneself when obsessed in such a way. Not judging at all but at one point in time, I think it’s interesting to try and understand what makes them relevant to the point where involvement goes above the standard interest.

  18. elizabeth82

    October 4, 2012 at 4:08 PM

    Not obsessed with this couple (and I watched the debate last night in its entirety) but it still makes me feel kind of dirty for believing they were for real if Emily would do something like sext another man when she’s engaged and if Jef would do something like demand half her Bach paycheck in order to perpetuate a facade. I just thought the finale was so sweet and this couple may actually be really fake and corrupt. I’m not so naive as to think reality tv is all real but, ugh. I’ve watched the Bach franchise for forever it seems but maybe I’m just getting burned by it too many times, ha (I also really liked Ben and then we all saw what a vacant horndog he was once he was made the Bachelor).

  19. woogs

    October 4, 2012 at 4:27 PM

    I wish I knew Nat, even for myself, why it’s so enticing and addicting. We should ask Dr Reality. Just a guess here but the “perfectness” the barbie blonde, who lives a glamorous life, funded by her late baby Daddy’s wealthy parents. An airplane crash, race car drivers, country and western singers, the studdly Brad Womak, reality TV, and now a mormon, skateboarder, who is handsome and hip, with an ex who is bitter, a hot football player. Humans cant take all that perfectness, especially when we are bored, set in marriages, our husbands laying on the couch farting, no romance anymore, or exhausted from working all day. Shitty TV in the summer…I don’t know….Gezz, it is like we all are living reality TV, because we get to hide behind our keyboards and be in it!! We have strong opinions, we judge, it’s great drama. We love her, we hate her. We want to be her, we would never want to be her. It just goes on and on! If it stopped awhile some of us may recover, some of us will never recover. If they get to the wedding, it will be utter chaos. There is a regular poster, who, seems to know Emily from real life who goes on about her having no education, a teen pregnancy, so add that to all this and it spells SUPER DRAMA reality TV played out on instagram and Twitter, modern romance. So I don’t know, Im as guilty as the bullies on Twitter, I told a few off myself, on Twitter over them intimidating that poor girl, who claimed to be Kaylee’s sister or cousin, these are grown women bullying in the name of Emily Maynard’s honor. Crazy or as her supporters say Cray cray! IF I WERE Jef and Emily, I would get off social media awhile. The reason, I would is Ricki, she will be the brunt of people behaving badly. She will read all this someday and if it doesn’t work out, there will be her pictures and headlines, from when Mommy was dating those guys from TV and sexting, that guy’s ex-girlfriend, the polygamy family, all that stuff to explain, true or not true, it’s all out there.. just for me, I couldn’t do that to MY daughter. Life is tough enough.

  20. Athena

    October 4, 2012 at 7:20 PM

    woogs – great post. Agree completely.

  21. cdk11

    October 4, 2012 at 7:42 PM

    Wow! I read the post about the possible “fake” people on jokers. Whenever I go on there for BB, I check the bachelor forums and am always disgusted with the amount of Jef/Emily love. I just went through the first page of user names gushing about the happy couple and over half of them have had accounts for less than two months!!!!!

    There is something definitely fishy there!!

  22. karynr

    October 5, 2012 at 6:50 AM

    Woogs, excellent post.

    As much as I like Jef, and learned to tolerate Emily when she was the Bach, I find I just don’t care how they end up. I do care that a child is involved. It’s too much already!

    I’m really, really tired of the whol Bach franchise. Like I said in an earlier post, I have no doubt I’ll be watching Sean, but I am not enthusiastic about it, at all.

    I do hope Ashley and J.P. make it. They seem to be a lot wiser, real and able to seperate themselves from the whole Bach famewhore syndrome.

  23. woogs

    October 5, 2012 at 7:26 AM

    Wise is exactlly the right word for Ashley and JP. That is the quality Jem are lacking, wisdom. One of the traits we seem to dislike, in Emily, her extreme and inmature vanity with, not much upstairs. I guess her twitter account, Dolly Parton quote maybe a little bang on. I never hear her talk about anything intellectual, always guys, manicures, spray tans, expensive shoes, etc. I’d love to hear her talk some history, on the places she has traveled, or causes she supports. Im not saying she is dumb, just sort of shallow. A main reason, I’m not so thrilled with her as a person. I’d like to see her support herself, her lifestyle on her own, the way the rest of us do. I could live the way she does too if my baby Daddy’s parents, gave me a house and a paycheck, we all could. So there is my jealous character defect coming out, I want free money too!!! LoL..But then I wouldn’t have much character either. Ok Im going to work now!

  24. lcs85

    October 5, 2012 at 9:16 AM

    @woogs It is interesting that she doesn’t seem to talk about causes she supports. Kalon on the other hand, who was supposed to be the evil one in her season, has turned his twitter account into raising money for animal shelters. I know if I had such a big spotlight on me, I’d be mentioning at least weekly the causes I care about and how others can help.

    Now I’m not saying she doesn’t support charities, or do any sort of charity work on her own time. I’m sure she does. I just think that she is in a great position to be able to shine a light on a great charity that might not get the attention it deserves.

  25. lcs85

    October 5, 2012 at 9:17 AM

    Or maybe she thinks getting her friend named Cosmo’s Bachelor of the year is a worthy cause.

  26. jlbalmer

    October 5, 2012 at 12:20 PM

    Hey Steve.. Is it true about Ben & Courtney?!?!?!

  27. JovisMom

    October 5, 2012 at 1:06 PM

    I just saw that too jbalmer!!!!

  28. colonlc10

    October 5, 2012 at 1:09 PM

    Yep, looks like Ben and Court may be kaput! Can’t say I’m upset about that one if it is true!

  29. Meghan

    October 5, 2012 at 2:04 PM

    @lcs85, WOW, I didn’t know that about Kalon. Good for him. I always feel like the way people treat society’s weakest members says a lot about them.

    I could be wrong, but I just have a hard time buying this image of Emily as a great mother. Going on the Bachelor to begin with was questionable (IMO), but when she seemed so upset about the media invading her life and didn’t want to be the Bachelorette for that reason, I thought maybe she just hadn’t thought through the ramifications and had learned her lesson. Then, not only does she decide to be the Bachelorette (knowing, as she must have by then, that the ‘process’ is mostly a load of crap), but since the show has continued to keep herself AND her daughter in the public eye. I mean, how do you go from wanting to keep your kid out of the media, to tweeting pictures of her in the doctor’s office? It just seems like she wants the publicity and isn’t really considering her little girl at all.

    Re: Ben and Courtney, I’m just surprised they lasted this long! As much as I hated Courtney during the show, I kind of felt sorry for her by the end of her season. Ben seems like a jerk to me–he was totally complicit in their relationship during the show, and he was certainly given fair warning about her actions, but chose to ignore them, but then dumps her when he sees the show air. I’m no fan of hers, but even she can do better.

  30. bigfatwoman

    October 5, 2012 at 2:23 PM

    I guess we shouldn’t be surprised if any of these couples break up — but I was shocked that Ben and Courtney lasted this long.

    He fell for her looks and false charm…hook, line and sinker. She treated all of the other girls horribly and Ben was mesmerized like a foolish school boy.

    I suppose I feel sorry for anyone as *ucked up as she seems.

  31. barbararap

    October 5, 2012 at 2:55 PM

    One less wedding gift for Steve to buy…….

  32. heliofan

    October 5, 2012 at 3:26 PM

    Yay….now Courtney can be the next Bachelorette!!

  33. tamara

    October 5, 2012 at 7:40 PM

    Well, I was starting to hope that Ben and Courtney would prove us wrong. But it seems like they really tried. All relationships are challenging and most don’t last long term, but they had to try in the public eye. They both seems like they have a lot of problems and would be a handful in a relationship. Would have required a lot of therapy for these two to make it.

  34. Kali

    October 5, 2012 at 7:57 PM

    One less Bachelor couple,
    One less ring to buy,
    One less person to pick up after –
    One less wedding gift to buy.
    We’ll miss you, Ben and Courtney. 😉

  35. karynr

    October 6, 2012 at 9:15 AM

    I haven’t read anything about Ben and Courtney yet, but am really surpised they made it this long.

    Can you imagine a season where Courtney is Bachelorette, and they bring on a bunch of Bentley, Blake, Chris B.-types. That could be hysterical and so fitting. We can develop a drinking game when anytime she gets naked, tries to use sex to lure someone in or does some skinny-dipping, we’d have to take a drink. I don’t think I could handle all that alcohol.

  36. heliofan

    October 6, 2012 at 10:27 AM

    Karynr….we’d be hung over every Tues. morning. LOL

  37. Sunnyside422

    October 6, 2012 at 11:43 AM

    Well the upside for the latest break up (very predicable, of course) is that once again Neil Lang gets his ring back! Considering he gets them back 99.9% of the time, no expenditure on his part at all and loads of free publicity. By the way, hate the latest rings he displays. All look alike…nothing original or special about them.

  38. karynr

    October 6, 2012 at 11:55 AM

    heliofan, or in the ER or dead from alcohol poisening.

  39. heliofan

    October 6, 2012 at 12:54 PM

    Geez….I didn’t think of the alcohol poisioning angle but very possible!

  40. woogs

    October 6, 2012 at 4:29 PM

    Ha Ha! Count me in! Someone go tweet Fleiss!

  41. Athena

    October 7, 2012 at 7:37 AM

    I would LOVE to see Courtney as Bachelorette!

    And, the drinking game would be fun. Imagine how out there all our posts would become. Just what this completely sane, drama-free, always boring talk board needs…

  42. woogs

    October 7, 2012 at 11:15 AM


  43. karynr

    October 8, 2012 at 1:25 PM

    Who should we cast for the men for Courtney’s season? I nominate Chris B. and Bentley. I could think of quite a few more, but would love to hear who everyone else would nominate. Oh….I forgot Jake. It will be an all a-hole season!

  44. heliofan

    October 8, 2012 at 2:08 PM

    Ed from Jillian’s season and Ryan from Emily’s season.

  45. Sunnyside422

    October 9, 2012 at 4:56 AM

    And how can we not forget Justin “rated R” Rego from Ali’s season! Definitely an a-hole season would be watchable seeing them out a-hole each other!

  46. karynr

    October 9, 2012 at 6:27 AM

    I just thought of another one…Wes.

  47. randais

    October 9, 2012 at 11:48 AM

    So….who watched Revenge on Sunday? Another epic episode. How disappointing that faux mandy is actually preggers with Jack’s baby, boooo. Does anyone else think, as clever as the writers want us to think Vicky is, she doesn’t really seem clever enough to pull off that master plan? And HELLOOOO new hero, way to “be there” just in time!

  48. kasey31

    October 9, 2012 at 9:29 PM

    i watched!! i actually thought that particular episode was a bit confusing :/ a lot of stuff going on in one episode.. still good, though of course!

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