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My Thoughts on Ashley & JP’s Wedding & ABC Lying Again in Their Promos

Just wanted to give a few thoughts on the wedding that aired Sunday night, plus give you some news and notes of things going on recently. With President Obama’s speech pushing back the start time of Ashley and JP’s wedding 25 minutes, it subjected us to watching “Wipeout” and moved the football game to another channel. You would think that for many people, listening to the President eulogize 26 killed in Connecticut on Friday would be respected, honored, and revered by everyone no matter how much you like the Patriots and/or 49ers. However, America reared its ugly head again on Sunday night. If you’re easily offended don’t click on this link, but did an excellent job of taking a screen shot of plenty of Twitter accounts Sunday night that were pissed off NBC cut away from football game coverage to cover the President speaking live in Connecticut. Racism, bigotry, hatred, and complete insensitivity is alive and well in this country. Really? Because you had to go to different channel to watch a football game for 20 minutes? That seriously is one of the worst things I’ve ever read in my life. Disgusting.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Twitter is one of the greatest inventions ever and it’s also one of the worst for the sole reason that anyone can write anything with zero regard for human decency and basically have zero repercussions. Makes me sick. I don’t care if you had $1 million riding on the 49ers/Patriots game, or bet your house mortgage on it, for Christ sakes, they cut away in the first quarter and the game was moved to TWO different channels that you could watch it on. You were THAT upset enough to run to Twitter and drop n-bombs on the President of the United States? Sick, disgusting, people that I hope I never have to come in contact with in my life. There isn’t a bigger sports fan out there than me, and I could care less what’s happening in the first quarter of a football game enough to do that. What a joke. Props to for outing those ignorant, racist, and disgusting human beings.

To be honest, because I had to watch the “Survivor” 2 hr finale then 1 hour live reunion show first, along with the end of the Patriots/49ers game, it was 11:00 CST time before all of that was over, so I actually fast forwarded through a lot of Ashley and JP’s wedding show. I still have it saved, so maybe someday I’ll go back and watch it in its entirety, but I think I got the idea of what it was all about. Ummmm, it was a wedding. And it followed essentially the same exact format as Jason and Molly’s televised wedding. Show their journey, show what they’re doing now, engagement party with both parents, plan the wedding, clips from the Bachelor & Bachelorette party, show people arriving and conduct interviews (in this case Trista & Ryan, Jason & Molly, and Sean), show the wedding, clips from the after party, preview Sean’s season. And if they ever televise another wedding, pretty much lock it in it’ll be the exactly the same thing only with different people. But here are my thoughts of what I saw:

-I love how Chris Harrison started out the show by telling us about all the “successful couples that have met on the show.” Granted, there were more couples that have formed outside of the show whether through Bachelor Pad or reunions or whatever, but somehow those count towards their “record” of uniting happy couples together. Really? You’re counting Jesse Csincsak and Anne Leuders as a couple from this show? Sure they were both on it, but ABC can’t stand Jesse and all the nonsense he feeds to internet sites about the show. Yet when they need to boost their ego of “Hey, check us out! Look at how many couples we’ve given you!”, they threw Jesse & Anne in there. And if there’s a single person who remembers who John Presser and Tara Durr are, you must have a photographic memory. I don’t even think their own families remember them from the show.

-The stuff about meeting with the wedding planner, and the dress designer, and the cake designer, yeah, that’s the stuff I pretty much skipped because, well, frankly I didn’t care. And I was tired.

-I did find it curious that when they were recapping Ashley and JP’s journey from her season, they never included any clips of her balling her eyes out over Bentley and how distraught she was when he left the show, even going so far as to say she could see a life in Salt Lake with Bentley. Guess she got over him pretty quick. Ha ha…just sayin’.

-JP and Ashley seem to be a great couple and I respect the fact that they were able to avoid the Hollywood bug once their season ended and focused on their relationship. Probably a huge reason of the reason why they actually ended up working out in the end. But I gotta know, how many times a week do they really go out to a lake on a rowboat to stare into each other’s eyes, have picnics, and feed each other candy apples? They ramped up the cheese factor about 100 times in this episode.

-I did watch all of the Bachelor/ette party segment. I guess the thing I learned most is now I know what kind of panties Ashley wears. Thanks for that visual. And not to mention if JP ever takes Ashley up on her idea of installing a pole into their bedroom, they could have a really exciting sex life.

-So the guys got to race fast cars and drink Scotch for the bachelor party? Pretty cool I guess but, ummmmmm, where’s the female entertainment for the night? Lets just say if, oh I don’t know, HBO was the one airing this party and not ABC, maybe we would’ve actually gotten an accurate depiction of what most guys do for their bachelor party.

-And just like Jason & Molly’s bachelor/ette parties (which were in Vegas), at the end of the night, the couple ends up breaking away from their party to meet up. Been there, done that ABC. Maybe go a different route next time. Ashley & JP decide to meet up and do a little ice skating in Scottsdale because if Scottsdale is known for anything, it’s certainly ice skating.

-I wonder how disappointed Arie and Jef were that they never got their camera time when they heard the bachelor/ette parties were at Mint in Scottsdale and tried to crash it. You know, considering they’re such close and personal friends of Ashley and JP and all. It’s ok. I’m sure they had fresh-out-of-college women they still needed to hit on that night. Well, Arie did at least. Jef was too busy with Katianna Bear the whole night. No, that’s not the name of a porn star. It’s an actual girl that Jef has been flying around to see for the last month or so. And the more he tries to deny there’s nothing going on between them, the worse he sounds.

-Once the actual “live” part of the wedding started and Chris Harrison started interviewing former couples, I love how he puts them both on the spot and asks them about Sean and his upcoming season. I don’t know this to be 100% fact, but I can almost guarantee at the time that interview took place on Dec. 1st, Trista & Ryan and Jason & Molly had never even met Sean in their life, and if they had, it was just minutes before when he arrived that day. Sean was in Las Vegas the night before the wedding, flew in the morning of Dec. 1st to attend the wedding and was only there for the ceremony, then flew out that night to be back in Vegas for pre-party for the 1/2 marathon run he did the next day. I was told Sean wasn’t at that wedding for more than maybe 3 hours total. And you could tell by both couples answers, they didn’t know a thing about him.

-I think the ceremony itself was very nice and it was a good sendoff for both Ashley and JP. Of course, most people that have emailed me have asked about the seating chart and why certain people were seated next to other, etc. I don’t know and don’t really care. It is what it is.

-The after party didn’t really show much either except for some ITM’s of Ali, Jillian, Emily, Ashley and JP’s first dance, and a quick shot of the crowd dancing. So not like this 2 hour show was anything spectacular, but what’d you expect? It was a wedding. They weren’t gonna make it more dramatic then it had to be. They saved that for the extended preview of Sean’s season.

-Unfortunately for Ashley and JP (but maybe a hint to ABC), the ratings for this episode Sunday night were awful. 3.5 million people watched. To compare, an average episode of the “Bachelor” or “Bachelorette” averages around 8 million viewers. “Bachelor Pad” averages 5.5 to 6 million an episode. Ouch.

-Now, I don’t immediately want to dismiss this show as a failure but I think they have to take things into account next time. Since Ashley’s season aired, they’ve aired Ben’s season, Emily’s season, and two seasons of “Bachelor Pad.” So to air a wedding of two people who got engaged 18 months ago might’ve played a role in it. The start time being delayed 25 minutes could’ve played a role too. But the bottom line is I guarantee you when ABC set out to televise this wedding, they were hoping for WAY more than 3.5 million viewers. So no doubt this is going to have them re-thinking doing this again.

-Now I know 2003 was a completely different time and this was pretty much a completely different show back then, but 17 million people tuned in to watch Trista and Ryan’s wedding. Even Jason and Molly’s wedding, televised in March of 2010, drew 9.2 million viewers. 3.5 million for Ashley and JP? That’s not good, no matter how hard ABC tries to spin it.

-And finally for all those who asked on Twitter or email, yes, I did get Ashley and JP a wedding gift that was sent to them almost a month ago. However, I don’t see how it’s anyone else’s business what I got them. How is that’s important in any way, shape, or form? If you want to ask them and they want to tell you, so be it, but I highly doubt they will.

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  1. cmiles906

    December 18, 2012 at 11:24 AM

    People ask what you got them as a gift because you talk INCESSANTLY about buying the couple a gift if they get married. Totally normal for someone to wonder.

  2. Dianne

    December 18, 2012 at 11:35 AM

    @cmiles906. No, not totally normal, it’s totally rude for people to ask what Steve bought JP and Ashley for a gift. That’s his business, and nobody elses. What difference does it make what he bought? He said a long time ago it would be from their registry, so isn’t that enough information for you and others?

  3. sifinalaska

    December 18, 2012 at 11:45 AM

    I wish I had never clicked on that link. What the hell is wrong with people?!?

  4. iheartvino

    December 18, 2012 at 11:59 AM

    Those angry tweets don’t surprise me, unfortunately. Some people are just ignorant. But while I can’t stand Obama, I never have and will never refer to him as the “n-word.” You just shouldn’t go there in my opinion. I read through the comments and I think this person said it best:

    “The thing that blows me away are the many different types of stupid that exist in our country.

    This is a national f—– tragedy on a scale that we have never seen. Football is a meaningless game in the grand scheme. IF you can’t figure that out on your own, you are not worthy of the life you’ve been given.”

  5. iheartvino

    December 18, 2012 at 12:05 PM

    Regarding Steve’s wedding gift to Ashley and JP- @Dianne while I agree with you that it’s rude for people to ask, I agree with cmiles906 that Steve should expect for people to ask. If he had mentioned it one time that he bought them a gift, great, then (hopefully) people would leave it alone. But he has mentioned it several times now so of course people are going to wonder what he got them since he’s brought attention to it. Now that he’s said that it’s no one’s business (he’s right, it isn’t), then hopefully people will stop asking. But I think it IS normal for people to wonder. I think it’s human nature to wonder about things. Wondering and actually asking are two different things, in my opinion.

  6. rsfanintx

    December 18, 2012 at 12:06 PM

    Regarding those twitter comments- A college football player gets kicked off team within and hour of his tweet!

  7. rollingeyes

    December 18, 2012 at 12:35 PM

    I’m one of the people who changed the channel to continue watching the football game. But I was not angry about NBC airing the president or having to change channels. The nation is grieving, and it is perfectly ok for the president to offer words of comfort during this time. (And I’m saying that even though I don’t like the man – although like Iheartvino, I would never go there with the n-word). I personally changed the channel because as of about 3pm Friday, I couldn’t watch the news any longer. I am an admitted news-junkie, but this has been way too much for me. Like so many others, I spent all day Friday bawling my eyes out. Here we are Tuesday, and I still will not watch the news about this tragedy. My son is 6 years old, and a first grader. It affects me too much. So, I was grateful that Sunday I had the option to change the channel, and it didn’t hurt that the 49ers are my team. I needed that mindless escape during the game.

  8. Kali

    December 18, 2012 at 2:30 PM

    I’m not a sportsfan and couldn’t care less about the games, but I do have one question … are there not African-American football players on either of those teams? If it wasn’t OK to watch the president because of his race, why then would it be all right to watch African-American football players if race was such an issue? The people who complained about Mr.Obama’s speech based on race are hypocrites of the highest order. I agree with sifinalaska; I’m sorry I clicked on that link, as well.

  9. mariet

    December 18, 2012 at 2:58 PM

    Oh, please! Steve puts it out there many times that he’s going to buy them a gift. And then says “none of your business” when asked what he got them. Rude to ask in every day life, yes. but not on this forum when he’s practically bragging about how generous he is. Keep it to yourself then, Steve! As for those tweets– just think, those folks probably started drinking about 6 hours prior, watching football all day. Pretty damn scary.

  10. brentb

    December 18, 2012 at 3:54 PM

    Steve is just a rude guy. He knows it. He doesn’t care. Embrace it or don’t read.

  11. randais

    December 18, 2012 at 4:31 PM

    Oh hey everyone, y’all beat me over here :D.

    @iheart – my sentiments exactly and I didn’t watch either, broadcast. I don’t like sports and I was on information overload regarding the tragedy and just could not hear one more thing regarding it. Add that I can not stand Obama either…..well you get it. I’m glad you’ve joined “The Voice” fan club even though the season ends tonight, there’s always next season!

  12. randais

    December 18, 2012 at 4:35 PM

    So either I put an unnecessary coma after “either” or I have dirt on my computer screen :\.

  13. kasey31

    December 18, 2012 at 5:17 PM

    @rsfanintx- that link u posted.. wow! good for them for taking action so quickly..

    whether youre a supporter of obama or not shouldnt matter.. that type of racism is unspeakable. republican, independent, democrat.. as a nation we should be ashamed.. during tragedies like the shooting in ct we see a beautiful side of the human race.. unfortunately, the ugly and evil will always rear its head, too…

    @randais and iheart- yay for the voice! i will be tuning in to see cassadee win it all, i am that certain.. i only called and voted for her 13 times last night haha.. and im glad u watched, iheart! hey, i just watched the season finale of survivor, not knowing who was who or what was going on.. and even then it was good ; ) based on the single episode i watched, i think i liked malcom the best.. penner and skupin seemed cool, too.. actually, i think i just like their names!

  14. kasey31

    December 18, 2012 at 5:19 PM

    someone on here wanted to try out for survivor.. i cant remember who it was now.. do it!!

  15. bigfatwoman

    December 18, 2012 at 6:02 PM

    It’s “totally rude” to ask Steve what he got someone as a wedding gift? Are you serious? That’s your threshold for rude? All I can say is how “totally ridiculous.” It’s called natural curiousity — it’s Steve’s prerogative to answer.

    Note to Steve — the proper term is “couldn’t care less”. To say that you “could” implies just that — you actually could care less.

  16. jillbeau

    December 18, 2012 at 6:02 PM

    @Steve, ditto on the first 2 paragraphs. Kudos for addressing the topic in such a sensitive and sympathetic manner.

    Some people just really crave attention…no other reason that they would jump on twitter to make such terrible comments. I did not click on the link since I’m one of those “easily offended” types. But I did click on the link that someone left in the comment section regarding the player that was dismissed from his team and that was enough. The problem I have is this: I don’t care if these people are racist or not, I don’t care if people like President Obama or not, it’s just not the time. These people need to pull their heads out of their own asses and respect the victims of this tragedy. Change the channel, don’t watch, who cares? Do whatever you need to do, but don’t run to twitter and FB to see how many “likes” or “retweets” you can get by making disgusting comments. It just makes them all look pathetic.

    @Kali, great points.

    I thought the same thing regarding Bentley. They kept talking about how immediate and strong their connection was during the show…but wait, remember her having multiple emotional breakdowns over Bentley leaving? How Ashley said multiple times that she wasn’t sure if the show was going to “work out for her” after Bentley left? I also really like Ashley and JP as a couple and I didn’t expect them to address Bentley, but it was just kind of humorous. I hope everything works out great for them, they seem genuinely in love.

  17. happilyeverafter

    December 18, 2012 at 6:10 PM

    I think ratings were down because it seemed almost disrespectful to watch ~it was hard to go from the president’s eulogy of 20 dead children to the wedding of a couple who met on a reality show. I considered skipping it and I’m a die hard fan of the franchise (and adore JP & Ashley). IMHO ABC should have rescheduled.

  18. Kali

    December 18, 2012 at 6:21 PM

    @happilyeverafter: I think also waiting 16 days after the event itself was a big mistake. By then, if I hadn’t put it on my calendar, I probably would have skipped it, too. The wedding happened on Dec. 1st; it should have been on television on Dec. 2nd.

  19. freeasabird

    December 18, 2012 at 7:46 PM

    I feel we all agree with Steve’s comments about the Tweeters. Glad to see one of the stupid people was kicked off his team.

    Wedding: I think Steve pretty much summed it up for us. I didn’t watch it until Monday night. It was 1:23 (no commercials) and I still had to watch it in three sittings. I doubt even John Presser and Tara Durr’s parents remember them since they made them up. If you watch closely you can see Chris Harrison trying to say their names with a straight face. Wonder how many takes it took for Chris to get it right?

    I would much rather have gone to the Bondurant school for racing that had a mani-pedi. And I’ll take scotch and water over Mimosa’s any day.

    But I am happy for Ash and JP and hope they can continue to stay out of the limelight.

  20. kasey31

    December 18, 2012 at 11:35 PM

    **the voice**
    cassadeeeeeeeee!!!! so happy to see her win! : )

  21. randais

    December 19, 2012 at 4:49 AM

    @kasey – thank you so much. For some reason, I was completely exhausted last night so I was watching and watching and next thing I know I woke up to the news! I swear I must have fallen asleep RIGHT before they announced. It was a great show! All three of them were ridiculously talented and I’m glad Cassadee won, she deserved it.

  22. kgm721

    December 19, 2012 at 9:53 AM

    I think the frustration some of us can have with Steve’s somewhat harsh “none of your business” or “I don’t care and you’re stupid if you care” comments about questions related to The Bachelor/ette, is that they seem so arbitrary and therefore come across as unnecessarily rude.

    It’s fine for us to ask what Steve bought as a wedding present because he’s mentioned the present about a thousand times. And it’s likely that if Steve thought his present had some witty back story that Steve would tell us all about how hilarious he is for buying it. Instead, it’s probably a place setting and therefore not worth telling. But he (or other commenters) doesn’t have to be irritated that people asked.

    It’s annoying when Steve gets annoyed so inconsistently. For example, his “I don’t care and neither should you” about the seating charts. For all we know, there’s some good gossip there. Cast members who were dying to sit together for a potential hook up or who were dying not to sit together because of a past hook up, right? This is the kind of info Steve often provides. And again, if he had something juicy, I think Steve would love sharing it. Instead, he probably doesn’t have anything, which is totally fine. But why be annoyed with people for asking.

    I love the spoilers and I will keep coming back for them. But not everyone who asks a question Steve doesn’t want to answer is a moron, and they don’t always deserve the treatment they get. Is that the price we/they pay for wanting spoilers? I guess so. But if I could go some place nicer for spoilers, I definitely would!

  23. elizabeth82

    December 19, 2012 at 1:19 PM

    Newest Us Weekly has a headline that Emily and Jef are “back on!” ??!

  24. elizabeth82

    December 19, 2012 at 7:25 PM

    Sorry double post, no “edit” feature . . .

    I finally watched the wedding on the ABC website. Forgot it was even on on Sun. Hadn’t looked at my calendar and the mass shootings–particularly having happened one town over from where I am–totally distracted me.

    Ashley’s right, J.P.’s mom is the sweetest. I liked seeing the interview with Trista and Ryan (funny when Ryan said their wedding was a lot more pink).

    Re. Steve: At least he has it right across the top of his webpage calling what he says slanted and sophomoric. It’s his shtick.

  25. kasey31

    December 19, 2012 at 9:34 PM

    **the voice**
    @randais- u watched all season and then fell asleep before the winner was announced? haha, classic! well it was a great show.. i loved the end when all of the judges sang “time of your life” and i guess that was kind of the goodbye to cee lo and christina that i had questioned a few weeks back. the show was great, and i couldnt be happier for cassadee.. her expression was priceless when they announced her as the winner : )

    **the x factor**
    is anyone else watching? i really like tate stevens, and i understand how much winning this means to him.. but i think he’s trying a little too hard to elicit sympathy from the viewers with the whole “please vote for me, i dont want to return to normal life.. this is my last chance.. the others are young and ‘want’ to win, but i ‘need’ to win..” that kind of rubbed me the wrong way.. sure, hes older, but theres no way in heck hes going to just return home to his construction job as if nothing happened.. he will be touring, interviewig, and making a whole lot of money based off of what hes accomplished this season.. i think the others, especially carly rose, deserve it just as much as he does.. using the “im older and have a family to support” just seems a little desperate to me.. just my opinion though!

    i also feel like britney has been given a list of one-liners to use and she just throws them out there, even when it doesnt pertain at all to what she is supposed to be critiquing.. sometimes, ok, most of the time, she says something, and im just thinkig to myself “what?!” “this season has been hit and miss with you, but 2nite was a hit.. when you keep it country, you keep me” or something like that.. doesnt make sense? hes always done country, and hes always been good! i think she gets nervous, the producers noticed and said “here are some simple critiques in case you get tounge tied” but shes using them at the wrong moments.. and this is coming from a huuuuge britney fan.. posters of her all over my room when i was growing up.. have memorized every word to every song kind of fan.. but she and chloe just look… uncomfortable..

    lee ann rymes.. why did you have to mess with carly’s song? oh wait, thats your song that carly just happens to sing better than you do.. she sounded off.. and carly completely outshined her..

    and as far as fifth harmony goes, whats there to say? “anything can happen” but hopefully it wont.. hopefully fifth harmony places third.. but for them to win? that would be a shame.. sure theyre cute and all, but no one compares to carly.. she should have this in the bag..

  26. kasey31

    December 19, 2012 at 9:45 PM

    .. and why did every person from tates hometown, including the mayor, sound like they were at a WWF match?

  27. mommyof2

    December 19, 2012 at 10:26 PM

    Wow! After last Friday’s awful, heartbreaking news, I have cried and cried, and by Mon., I couldn’t take any more news or TV, so I went to bed right after we put our two sweet, precious kids to bed. I completely forgot about Ashley and JP’s wedding until I cane to this site today.

    Like many of you have commented, I’m not a fan of Obama either, but those hateful tweeters are ignorant and heartless. This tragedy is far more important than a football game, and Obama was right to address the nation and Newtown, Conn. I couldn’t watch any more after seeing, hearing, and reading so much about the children, their families, the teachers, and the tragedy itself. My children are 5 and 3, so it hit me hard, imagining what those kids saw and felt, and imagining the deep sorrow their parents and siblings feel now. Like someone mentioned above, it was a nice reprieve on Sunday when I watched an exciting football game, and my Redskins won. But I still can’t believe I forgot about the big wedding.

  28. kasey31

    December 19, 2012 at 11:25 PM

    @mommyof2- very well said.. it was/is such a tragedy.. to even listen to the stories was gut-wrenching.. but at the same time, i felt like listening to their stories, hearing what some of those teachers did for their students, and listening to the bravery of the children, was my way of paying respect to the victims.. i am not a mom yet.. but my boyfriend of 5 yrs is a high school math teacher, and i immediately called him.. i know he would have done the same for those precious children.. its just heartbreaking.. i dont think there was one decent human being that watched or did anything sunday night without still feeling the pain from what occurred on friday.. sometimes, we need mindless entertainment to momentarily distract us from things that are so incomprehensible and horrific… otherwise, it can become unbearable..

  29. Sunnyside422

    December 20, 2012 at 6:25 AM

    Well since Emily is jobless, looking for another 15 minutes, hooking up with Jef (who has been extremely popular as a bachelor), benefits her. Since there are those who think Emily is the end all to beat all, the spotlight will continue to shine on her.

  30. randais

    December 20, 2012 at 6:34 AM

    @Kasey – I know “hang my head in shame”….typical me really :D. So of course, I missed the end and thank you for giving a brief synopsis, sounds like a great ending to an already great show. Also, I watch X-factor and while don’t disagree about the shameless “woe is me” pleas, I still think Tate is the best. I actually haven’t really liked Carly for the majority of the show. That in and of itself, shouldn’t affect whether she wins or not, of course, but my personal preference would be Tate. Britney’s contribution to this show is, at best, negligible, and seems very scripted and disingenuous. She, in my opinion, contributes little if anything of substance. And Chloe…well don’t get me started on that ridiculousness.

  31. shouldbeworking

    December 20, 2012 at 7:16 AM

    I agree with bigfatwoman. Some people on here, and they know who they are, should lighten up.

  32. kasey31

    December 20, 2012 at 1:12 PM

    @randais- oh, it’s something i would do, too.. but i was on the phone with a friend throughout a lot of it so she kept me awake.. AND she knew the ending before i did and i still managed to decide i didnt want the ending spoiled so she kept it secret..
    i agree with u on tate.. i like him, too! but i kinda feel like hes just another country guy with a great voice.. there isnt anything that really stands out to me- nothing worth a 5m dollar contract, at least… he does have a fantastic voice though.. i just dont know if hes the full package.. so, again, we can agree to disagree on that ; ) if he does win, i will be very happy for him, regardless..

  33. kasey31

    December 20, 2012 at 10:28 PM

    **x factor**
    @randais- good game, good game.. your fave won, and he deserved it.. i got to thinking, carly rose is such an amazing talent, but maybe this is a blessing in disguise for her and her career.. shes only 13, and from a business perspective, she just seems too young to do anything with right now. as much as i love her, i wouldnt buy a 13yr old’s album.. and the only stars that have become famous from such an early age were already in the business acting and were backed by disney or nickelodeon.. i think her time will definitely come.. in a few yrs she’ll be 16 and much more marketable.. so, congrats to tate!

  34. randais

    December 21, 2012 at 3:36 AM

    @kasey – I think part of my lack of enthusiasm for Carly was her age. That’s so young to be thrust into that limelight, although I’m sure she will be find herself in “said” limelight, to some extent anyway, due to her exposure on the show. I’m not sure I agree with them lowering the age limit to 13, these children, while they may be extremely talented, are so inexperienced and immature to be dealing with all the attention and demands they will now have to deal with.

  35. mommyof2

    December 21, 2012 at 7:45 PM

    @Kasey I agree with you that I did feel compelled to read and hear about the stories of those brave teachers, and I was touched by so many of the stories about the personalities of the children who died. It just hurts though. I agree that sometimes we need mindless entertainment, too- and the Bachelor/ette shows definitely fulfill that need when they are airing!

    *X-Factor- I was a big fan of Tate Stevens and was so happy he won, although I do think Carly has the best voice this season. I was pretty impressed by how well Fifth Harmony performed the week before and then again in the finale considering they were just so-so for the first half of the season. They could end up being pretty big! I agree with @Randais that Britney has been bland and hasn’t added anything to the judging table. Also, Chloe is a terrible host, which I feel mean saying, but it’s true. I love LA Reid as a judge, but read that he’s chosen not to return next season. Although I disagreed with Demi half of the time, she is spunky and offered her honest opinion- good and bad- each week, and I loved the chemistry between her and Simon.

    *Revenge and *Revolution- i cannot wait for these two shows to return in January (along with the Bachelor, of course!).

    By the way, I noticed a lot of y’all putting a star (*) before each show you comment about, so that’s why I’m doing that, too. Not sure if I missed the memo on this new rule or whatever, but I figured I’d do that, too! 🙂

  36. kasey31

    December 21, 2012 at 11:40 PM

    **x factor**
    @mommyof2- everything u said about the x factor, i completely agree with.. but la reid leaving? i hadnt heard that, i cant imagine who would fill his shoes? hes amazing! maybe britney just needs another season to come into her own.. but youre right, demi sure seems to be comfortable in her position as a mentor and taking on simon (hilarious montage btw of her and simon), and i think she does a good job articulating herself, even if i dont at all agree with what shes saying.. she just seems much more natural on camera- britney has spent so much of her career attetmpting to be low-key and has always been a little mysterious, which was part of her intrigue- maybe she’s just finding it more difficult to open up and be vulnerable? while on the converse, khloe has spent most of her over indulged life infront of the cameras, so youd think this would be easy for her.. but.. not so much!
    and the * is so if anyone who doesnt want to read through a bunch of comments that theyre not interested in, so it’s kind of a header.. someone asked if we could do that a while ago, so we’ve been trying to remember it do it : )

  37. kasey31

    December 21, 2012 at 11:49 PM

    ** x factor contn’d**
    i still think carly is an amazing talent, and i truly believe we will be hearing a lot more from her in a few years.. i think she just needs some time to mature.. it would be very difficult to market a 13 year old.. who would be her target audience? but in a few years, she’ll be ready to go and will appeal to a much broader group of consumers.. her performance with tate last nite was terrible, though! it was a complete misfit from two completely different artists and genres of music.. they did not compliment each other.. at all.

  38. kasey31

    December 21, 2012 at 11:53 PM


  39. heliofan

    December 22, 2012 at 6:03 AM

    Well…..looks like we survived the end of the world!!

  40. Athena

    December 22, 2012 at 3:45 PM

    And hopefully anyone who would have normally planned and cooked dinner last night held back just in case, and then got taken out to eat.

  41. randais

    December 24, 2012 at 5:26 AM

    Just wanted to hit and run, to wish everyone a quick Merry Christmas. Don’t forget to be thankful for all the blessings, family and friends. Cherish them while you have them and enjoy your holiday all. Have to run, the stores are open today! 😀

  42. heliofan

    December 24, 2012 at 10:06 PM

    Merry Christmas, everyone!!

  43. strick432

    December 25, 2012 at 4:29 PM

    I think it was me who said I wanted to try out for Survivor. I just watched the wedding last night. Very cheesy. I didn’t get to watch Jason & Molly’s and Trista & Ryan feels like such a lifetime ago. I knew Cassadee was going to win but I really liked Terry & Nicholas better. I also liked Tate the best on X Factor.

  44. kasey31

    December 27, 2012 at 11:02 PM

    just wanted to “stop by” and say hi: ) about 10 more days til the bachelor starts, and 9 more til revenge.. cant wait! my dvr has been so lonely.. hope everyone is enjoying their holidays! xo

  45. jbryant67

    December 27, 2012 at 11:36 PM


  46. Athena

    December 28, 2012 at 1:36 PM

    Meanwhile there’s Bowl season where right now my Bobcats are putting a smackdown on UL-Monroe in the Independence Bowl 🙂

  47. karynr

    January 2, 2013 at 7:32 AM

    happilyeverafter, I think you are right on target. I imagine a lot of people didn’t watch for that very reason. I watched a few minutes of it, but like most, my mood was so down, I felt guilty watching something so lighthearted that particular evening.

  48. iheartvino

    January 3, 2013 at 9:20 AM

    Hope everyone had a wonderful Christmas and New Year’s Eve with their friends and family. Anyone see Steve’s FB post this AM? Apparently he’s being sued again and ABC is claiming he violated their agreement. If he didn’t, then he shouldn’t have anything to worry about. I’m one of the many people who would have said adios to this show a long time ago if it weren’t for Steve’s spoilers.

  49. bostoncpa

    January 3, 2013 at 9:36 AM

    I saw Steve’s FB post as well. If he didn’t violate their agreement, they’re probably trying to take him our of business with exorbitant legal fees. He obviously doesn’t have the same resources to spend on lawyers as the production company does.

  50. addicted2rs

    January 3, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    I noticed the same FB post about a new lawsuit. I was hoping he had addressed it here, but I am sure that is coming.

    Can’t wait for the return of Revenge! I saw a write up of this season stating Conrad’s ex wife and children will be on this season. 🙂

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