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The Bachelor 17 - Sean

My Thoughts on Yet Another Lawsuit

For those that haven’t heard the wonderful news of the day, yes, I was sued back on Dec. 21st by the production company of the “Bachelor” series for ummmmm, well, I’m still trying to figure out what. The Hollywood Reporter covered it today, as well as You can see in the Hollywood Reporter story that I give my response to this lawsuit.

Let me just say this: all the armchair lawyers out there can say what they want, but the truth is, the Settlement Agreement I have with NZK Productions is not public record. If you don’t know the exact wording in the Settlement Agreement, you can’t possibly have an accurate opinion on these new charges brought against me, so just keep that in mind before I’m vilified in the court of public opinion. The point of the Agreement, or so I thought, was to prevent this exact thing from happening. I didn’t want to have to respond to a lawsuit every single time I posted a spoiler on my site because NZK Productions THINKS I got my information illegally. But that’s exactly what they went ahead and did since they have shown me no proof that I violated the Agreement, because they have none.

I continue to spoil their show every season, they’re pissed about it, so this is how they respond. What’s funny in all this is, by suing me, they’re admitting that my spoilers are correct. Do you honestly think if I gave away the wrong ending, and wrong eliminations, and wrong details about the dates they would sue me? Of course not. I’d just be a gossip site and they’d never acknowledge my existence. So I guess props to me for, once again, another successful season of spoiling the “Bachelor” franchise. Although, I didn’t need a lawsuit thrown in my face four days before Christmas to know that my spoilers were right.

I’m exploring all my legal options at this point, including a counterclaim. They are the big guys and I’m the little one and they are trying to squash me. I don’t see that happening since I did not violate our Agreement, nor did I intentionally interfere with any contracts, which is what their latest complaint is stating.

Everything remains the same on the site. I’ll return Tuesday with your episode 1 recap and the spoilers remain up. The only spoilers I haven’t posted yet are episodes 6 and 7. Not too concerned about those right now so you can find all your spoilers by clicking this link, or by navigating at the top of the page by going to “Spoilers,” then “The Bachelor,” then “Bachelor Sean Spoilers.” It’s really easy for those who might be struggling a bit.

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  1. woogs

    January 3, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    Why can’t you spoil if you want? What laws would prevent anyone from spoiling? The whole bach thing has become insane. Or maybe I’m becoming more insane that I can’t stop myself from reading this sh*t when I see it. But suing you is beyond ridicules.

  2. lucky

    January 3, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    Couldn’t they have waited until after Christmas to file the claim? This piece-of-crap show has been going downhill for a while and I won’t bother watching any of it if you can’t spoil it. People just don’t care to watch knowing it’s all fake.

  3. Athena

    January 3, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    I am growing an extreme dislike for ABC and it’s legal dept. They really are bullies, and I just don’t understand why with all their creative minds they can’t come up with some fun and interesting ways to deal with the spoilers. Mean and dumb is how they seem to me.

  4. txchic

    January 3, 2013 at 5:15 PM

    Hmm…wonder what Erica made up this time to make herself relevant for five more minutes?

    ABC is being a punk. I’m sure they don’t care about any individual fans (and many of the contestants themselves think even less of fans), but if people who read Reality Steve suddenly stop watching in mass numbers…

  5. jillbeau

    January 3, 2013 at 7:07 PM

    So I read the Hollywood Reporter article and one of the things that seems to stood out to me was this statement…”the spoilers Carbone has posted are “nonpublic information” in “increasingly vivid details,” including scene-by-scene, shot-by-shot descriptions.” I remember a few weeks ago, Steve was answering questions about Episode 1 on twitter, and he was answering them in great detail. My initial thought was, Steve must know someone who received an advanced copy of the 1st episode. I read enough stupid gossip blogs to know that this happens. This lets the writers complete their entries and articles ahead of time. Ashley Spivey and Ashley Hebert have both said that they receive the episodes before they air. I’m sure other, non-former cast members receive the episodes early as well. How early the 1st episode would be given out? I have no idea. Maybe this is not what happened, that was just my first thought. There’s no way Steve would’ve known that level of detail if he did not watch the episode or know someone who did. How else would he know shot-by-shot descriptions? If you read the rest of the spoilers on this site, they have considerably less detail than what he discussed on twitter. He evens writes things like “I don’t know who was on this date” or “I don’t have many details about this date”.

    Regardless of what Steve has said or done in the past, I usually side with the “little guy”. ABC, NKZ productions, etc, have much more money and resources than Steve. This is just a drop in the bucket to them. Since Steve was able to produce spoilers after the agreement was signed, they’re now trying to shut Steve up by bankrupting him with these lawsuits.

  6. itsfinch

    January 3, 2013 at 7:15 PM

    ABC, your tired a$$, badly edited, Groundhog Day of a show is CRAP and it’s only fun to watch in conjunction with Ya hear?

  7. Meghan

    January 3, 2013 at 8:11 PM

    I know nothing whatsoever about the laws in question, so maybe someone who does can enlighten me, but I honestly don’t see how ABC has a case even if Steve did try to convince or pay people from the show for info. It’s the cast/crew/etc who signed contracts, so shouldn’t they be going after the ones who broke their contract? Is it illegal to ask someone to break a confidentiality agreement?

    I also don’t get why ABC doesn’t just accept the fact that spoilers bring viewers, and let it go. I certainly wouldn’t watch this cheesefest if it weren’t for spoilers and behind-the-scenes info.

  8. kristint

    January 3, 2013 at 9:38 PM

    I agree that I would have been done with this show several years ago if not for the spoilers! I think it makes it far more interesting to try and figure out what might be more “real” (if there even is anything) vs what you know is manipulated. I even find it funny that when they filmed in St Croix half the stuff they did was fake. My inlaws live there and went to the taping of the parade (those do exist but this one was all staged for the production). I have been to St Croix over 40 times and I have never seen street vendors like they showed (there are 1 or 2 sometimes but thats about it) and the things they sold arent even things that we’ve ever seen on island. Actually 1 of the steady vendors is usually a fake purse guy –now that would be funny to have Sean buy a fake Louis Vuitton for $50 for his date and then read about LV suing ABC ha!
    Just a very small example of how everything is soooo staged and they will show whatever they want you to see. And if something doesn’t exist they will create it — everything from a parade to drama like boyfriends back home .
    I know there is a lot of negotiating with the local governments and tourist bureaus on what they do and don’t want shown. And my understanding is that ABC got ALOT of stuff on St Croix for free (product placement deals – buccaneer hotel for sure). Guess they were driving the locals NUTS since they weren’t paying for anything yet had ALOT of demands.
    ABC needs to back off but the bottom line is they can’t stand being exposed for all their tomfoolery (been wanting to use that word for a while) so their answer is a lawsuit to try and keep Steve quiet.

  9. randais

    January 4, 2013 at 5:45 AM

    Happy New Year everyone. Hope yours was filled with fun and family. Seems like RS’, not so much :\. I recommend, copy and pasting now before what we currently have, disappears. Good luck RS dealing with the “big boys”.

    Here’s what I’m looking forward to in ’13 (have to find something positive since, it would appear pretty much EVERYTHING is going to COST more, who should we thank for that? :\).

    1/2 Nashville – already started with a catch up episode
    1/6 Biggest Loser
    1/6 Revenge (Uh oh conflict :D)
    1/7 Deception (new show!)
    1/7 Bachelor
    1/10 Last Resort
    1/16 Idol
    2/5 Smash

    Ok what’d I miss? Who’s watching what?

  10. ccrider

    January 4, 2013 at 6:05 AM

    @meghan…..yes, it is against the law to try and bribe someone who is under contract to break that contract. RS was guilty of that in the first lawsuit…..even though he never paid anyone anything, he did offer them money for their information. However, from what little I know of this new lawsuit, there’s no proof that RS has done anything in violation of the settlement of the first lawsuit. We’ll just have to wait and see how it all plays out.

    @randais….I’m with you on Nashville! I watched the “catch up” episode and can’t wait for the 2nd half of the season to start!

    I was watching 666 Park Avenue but I think it got cancelled. Sure wish they’d do a finale episode to wrap up all the mystery.

    And I’ll be tuning into the Bachelor but only because of RS’s spoilers….I’m with the majority on that, I wouldn’t watch if it wasn’t for RS!

    Other than that….I’m more of a sitcom person, The Middle, Modern Family, Suburgatory, Happy Endings….shows that make me laugh.

    Happy New Year everyone!!

  11. karynr

    January 4, 2013 at 7:09 AM

    Fleiss and ABC are being so petty it makes them look a little pathetic. Is RS really such a threat to their tired-ass, fake show, that most of us wouldn’t even watch without the spoilers? RS, I’m sorry you have to go through this crap. What a joke.

    Randais, I can’t wait for Californication, Shameless and House of Lies. Some other shows I’ve gotten hooked on the past couple years are The Walking Dead, Breaking Bad, Nurse Jackie and The Big C.

    Having my son move back in with me has opened my eyes to so many really good shows!

    Happy New Year everyone. May 2013 be filled with lots of peace, love and good health!

  12. jillbeau

    January 4, 2013 at 7:47 AM

    @Meghan…it is illegal. Back when the first lawsuit happened, there was a TON of discussion about that. I definitely had your opinion…I thought that ABC should be pursuing the people who are providing the information, not the person asking for it. But, there’s something called “tortious interference” which someone pointed out back then and is also mentioned in the Hollywood Reporter article. It basically means that it’s illegal to interfere with cast members’ contracts or encourage them to breach their contracts.

    @Kristin…tomfoolery is a great word! And it’s a perfect way to describe this mess. It’s just getting old.

    @Randais…Biggest Loser! Wooooo!!! Jillian’s back!!!!! But what’s up with all those kids in the promos? I hope there’s not a kid’s team, because that would be kind of weird.

    @ccrider…I’m right there with you, I love sitcoms. And reality TV. I watch a few dramas, but not many. I absolutely love Happy Endings. It’s a like a really strange, quirky Friends. I am also obsessed with Parks and Rec. I’ve kind of fallen off the Modern Family bandwagon this year. I used to watch it religiously, but I’m finding that it’s not holding my interest this year. I usually DVR it, but I don’t always go back and watch.

  13. iheartvino

    January 4, 2013 at 8:53 AM

    Yay for the return of our favorite shows!
    @Randais, I haven’t watched the Nashville catch-up episode yet but it’s on my DVR so hopefully I’ll get to it this weekend. I’m glad to see there are a few others on here watching it. I’m with ya on being excited for Nashville, and in addition to most of the shows you mentioned I’m also eager for the return of Scandal. The past few episodes have been so good that it’s moved up to the top of my list with Revenge.

    @ccrider, I love the Middle! It always makes me laugh. One of my favorite recent episodes was when Frankie was working that retail job and kept trying to hide the gifts she wanted to purchase later for her family. That’s so something I would have done if I were in her shoes.

  14. RSaddict

    January 4, 2013 at 8:59 AM

    *Biggest Loser*
    @jillbeau… I am also excited about the new Biggest Loser and Jillian’s return! From what I understand, there will be kids on this season but they will not be weighing in on national television, and they will not tell us how many pounds they lose per week. This season is about fighting against childhood obesity, so they will be competing but NBC is taking precautions!

    *Everything else*
    Hope everyone had a great time through the holidays, I know I did! (But, I am so ready for things to get back to normal!)
    And, hang in there RS- you have a lot of people in your corner!

  15. mommyof2

    January 4, 2013 at 9:10 AM

    Ugh! ANOTHER lawsuit? Ridiculous! Like many of you, I wouldn’t still watch this pathetically fake show without Steve’s spoilers. They are what keeps it interesting.

    As far as other shows, I’m looking forward to Nashville, Revenge, Revolution, Modern Family, and American Idol, in addition to The Bachelor. I may want to check out a couple of new shows, too, but we’ll see!

  16. jillbeau

    January 4, 2013 at 9:10 AM

    @RSAddict…that’s good to hear about Biggest Loser. I wonder if they will be up for elimination too just like the other cast members? I tried to go on NBC’s website to find out some information about the cast, but I don’t think there’s anything up yet (either that, or I just couldn’t find it).

    @iheart and @ccrider…I have watched a few episodes of The Middle. I also used to work at a department store during college. And I can say that what Frankie did to hide gifts was not THAT far from the truth… 🙂

  17. JovisMom

    January 4, 2013 at 9:33 AM

    Happy New Year everyone!!!
    This is BS!! Another lawsuite? Poor Steve!!!
    I’m super excited for Biggest Loser! It motivates me to get my butt on the gym!! LOL
    Anyone else going to watch The Carrie Diaries? It starts Jan 14 I believe. I read the book (honestly half of it because it wasn’t that good. I’m not sure how its going to be. It’s suppose to be about Carrie losing her mom, living with her dad and moving to NYC. Anyone who knows the original series knows that Carrie’s dad left when she was like 3 and she lived with her mom. Hence why she writes a blog asking questions about men….. We will see how it goes.

  18. ali

    January 4, 2013 at 9:37 AM

    @randais….so excited for smash! hear there are a lot of changes, new characters, etc. Hope it is stronger than the first season. it really has a lot of potential to be a great show!

  19. randais

    January 4, 2013 at 9:41 AM

    @jil – I’m not sure exactly how they are incorporating them, but there is a “kid” aspect to this season.

    I used to be a die hard comedy addict but I don’t appreciate the new stuff and have switched addictions to “reality” and of course some drama.

    Anyone see “Les Mis” yet? Hoping to take my daughter this weekend.

  20. strick432

    January 4, 2013 at 10:06 AM

    If I’m being totally honest, if I were Steve, I’d just go back to my sports broadcasting job or something. I would watch the Bachelor franchise without the spoilers because I am addicted to all reality tv. However, I am a die-hard RS fan. I watched the shows before I ever came across RS website and will continue to do so, with or without spoilers. I know it’s the “principle” of the thing, but I just can’t see where it’s worth it to keep fighting lawsuits every time you turn around. I don’t agree with ABC; however, they are the BIG BAD guys and Steve is the little guy. I don’t believe ABC is going to give up until RS shuts down. I do believe that RS has someone VERY close to production feeding him the info – for all we know, it’s ABC and all this is for publicity. (Probably not, but just sayin’.) I find RS, for the most part, hilarious and I enjoy reading his columns and spoilers. I just think this thing has taken on a life of it’s own…..and maybe it’s time to accept the cold, hard truth. Hopefully I won’t get too much “flak” about this post…ya’ll take it easy on me!!

    As far as new shows, I always watch Biggest Loser and Idol – I don’t know how much of Nicki Minaj I can stand, however. She literally makes me want to upchuck. There can NEVER EVER be another season like this past one as I am from Phillip Phillips’ hometown and think he is just the greatest thing since sliced bread and contact lenses. (BTW, Leesburg is also the home of country music star Luke Bryan and 2-time World Series champ and NL MVP Buster Posey!!) It’s something in the water here, I tell ya!!!

  21. mariet

    January 4, 2013 at 10:16 AM

    Steve should submit this claim (lawsuit) to his personal or business liability insurance carrier. If there is coverage for even one allegation in the complaint they may pay for defense costs. His lawyer probably advised him of this the first time, but just in case…

  22. iheartvino

    January 4, 2013 at 10:46 AM

    @Strick, you’re not going to get any flack from me for your comment. I agree with the majority of what you said, especially about Steve’s info most likely coming from the inside. How else would he have the specific details that he has? It makes me angry that they spend their energy going after Steve when they should be trying to find out who the inside mole is and go after that person or people.

    I’m a huge fan of his and I want to believe he has not violated his agreement, but let’s not forget that when he was first sued last time, remember how he said he hadn’t done anything wrong and had acted like their lawsuit was BS? I don’t have time to go back and read the specific comments, but I know a lot of us felt duped by him once we found out he had indeed contacted a few contestants and offered them money. He had been instructed by his attorney to not give out any information about the lawsuit that would hinder his case. So how do we know that’s not the case now? He can’t admit to anything now because that would kill his case. I really hope he is innocent in this and is being honest when he says he has not breached the agreement, but I just don’t want to be naive a second time. I am pulling for him to win this providing he hasn’t done anything wrong, but I think Strick is right- I think ABC will continue to come after him repeatedly until he stops spoiling the show.

    If that happens and if the spoilers stop coming from Steve, then they had better go after every other site that gives out spoilers too, namely Bach and Bachelorette Fan Forum. That site sometimes has spoilers about episodes before he does, usually from someone who knows someone on the show. So if they’re going to put a stop to Steve’s spoilers then they need to do it to everyone. I realize that would never happen but I think it sucks they only go after Steve.

  23. RSaddict

    January 4, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    *Biggest Loser*
    A story posted today of Alison talking about the kid aspect at:
    They also had a story with Jillian’s view of the new season and about the lawsuit against Steve.

  24. RSaddict

    January 4, 2013 at 11:21 AM

    Oops!… Meant to say they had stories, not just one story about everything!

  25. strick432

    January 4, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    @iheartvino – I think Steve has just pissed ABC off royally by basically telling them to “stick it” and he will do whatever he wants and keep spoiling. To me, he is the most “vocal” of the spoilers and the most high profile. That is why ABC is going after him, in my opinion. But I do agree with you – if you stop one spoiler site, stop them all. It’s a free country and everything, but when you start getting hit by lawsuit after lawsuit, I would just pack it in and say, “well, it was fun while it lasted!”

  26. karri

    January 4, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    I don’t think ABC has such a problem with Steve’s website.. yeah he spoils it, but if you don’t want to know the ending, you don’t have to read his website. Those of us that read obviously aren’t complaining to ABC about the spoilers getting out…

    The problem is that everyone that reads the spoilers goes to every other blog or article about the Bachelor and leaves comments on who won. Every time Eonline or US Magazine posts an article online about Bach, there are like 10 comments saying “Jef won. It’s on Reality Steve”. Even Ashley Spivey’s blog, which is on ABC’s website, constantly had the spoilers in the comments. And a lot of people read those that don’t want to know the ending.

    So maybe if we all stop commenting elsewhere, we can save Steve & the spoilers! I sure don’t want them going away.

  27. karynr

    January 4, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    Strick432, I would tend to agree with you about them continuing to come after him until he is shut down. He’s become a big target to them and I’m sure that is their goal.

    And I sure do agree with you about Nicki Manaj. I can’t stand her!

  28. elizabeth82

    January 4, 2013 at 2:28 PM

    I was kind of surprised Steve hadn’t posted another column after the one about A&J’s wedding but figured it was the holidays, etc. Now we know he had the lawsuit to deal with. At least it looks like he had fun with his niece and nephew from what he posted on Twitter.

    I don’t watch any of the other shows people here comment on besides the Bach franchise, ha. Then again, people I know say being so into the Bachelor doesn’t seem to go with the rest of my personality! I sometimes watch “New Girl” and “The Mindy Project.” I watch “Sister Wives” and “Intervention” re. other reality shows but have no interest in singing or losing weight competition shows.

    I would still watch the Bach/ette without spoilers. I read the spoilers along with all the other coverage of the show because the alternative would be only reading, like, Chris Harrison’s recap column or whatever, ha. I’m still surprised when people say they would only watch if they have the spoilers but hey that’s cool.

    I’m psyched to see “Les Mis”–saw it twice on Broadway back in the day and it is my fav musical–opera to be technical. I’ll probably go this weekend. I literally only saw one movie in the theater in 2012 (“Anna Karenina”) but I’m not about to miss this one! I’m kind of concerned about the singing–these are professional actors, not singers, and this is an all-musical production, but I hope to enjoy regardless! It’s an epic story!

  29. randais

    January 4, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    Yeah Nicki is going to be a hard pill to swallow, week after week :\.

    I’m not sure I agree with you Karri, I don’t think there is a chance in hades, there is ANYway to keep people, just in general, from posting their opinions, what they’ve heard, etc. on other sites. Even ABC in their infinite “lack” of wisdom would realize that is an impossibility.

  30. oyoung1117

    January 4, 2013 at 6:20 PM

    To be honest I thin Steve and ABC are playing chicken.
    He is taking the gamble that he won’t get caught
    (Because yes I think while he gets some spoilers from
    Random sources gossip girl style, I think he must have
    An inside source or two he can absolutely count on).
    And I think ABC is betting that if they hit him with a
    Lawsuit every single time he posts a spoiler, eventually he will stop. So we’ll see. My fear is that they have caught him before and they will catch him again.
    As for other shows: revenge, downton abbey (terrible conflict, but they both go on the Internet the next day) once upon a time, Nashville, and vampire diaries. Sometimes parenthood but that show is getting more and more annoying.

  31. BachFan

    January 4, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    I think it’s great advice to NEVER assume that what you write on the internet is either a. anonymous or b. without consequences.

  32. kasey31

    January 4, 2013 at 8:09 PM

    what in the world has steve done in his life to deserve all of the crazy stuff that is happening to him? thats what i am wondering.. if it’s not one thing, it’s something else, and i feel terrible for him!

    but to be honest.. ive wondered the same as iheart.. as a fan of his, i hope and pray that he didnt do anything that would be in breach of his contract with abc.. ive never seen it, i have no clue what it says, so i cant speculate on the wording, and i wont.. what i find “curious,” for lack of a better word, is how he is able to obtain ep by ep spoilers.. i can see him finding out the f1- with some serious investigation, that could be done, and he could run with the story with 100% certainty.. but how does he know the details of what happens IN the mansion where there are only contestants and camera crew?? i think THAT is what is concerning abc, not necessarily that he is spoiling the finale..

    with that being said, i think it’s ridiculous to go after steve.. abc needs to find out what is going on within their own family- their tactics seem to be to get rid of “the annoyance” that is steve through pure intimidation.. why not find out if anyone on the inside is feeding him info? it would take work, but it could be done.. that would be my priority- instead, they are going after steve bc they think it’s the easiest way to get rid of the problem.. not so much. who’s to say that source wouldnt go to someone else? and strick is right, if they get rid of one site, then they get rid of all of the spoilers..

    steve is a strong willed guy, and he isnt going to go down without a fight.. i, too, remember the first case very well, and i was one of the people who donated at the time.. if everything is true, and theyre just picking on him, and he has done nothing wrong, i dont see why we cant help him out again. he has certainly provided us with entertainment for years.. and as his fans, maybe we can make a difference? but if he did violate his terms, im afraid this could be the end of the road.. i just hope he is genuine when he states that this lawsuit is BS. only time will tell, but steve has a lot of fans, and a lot of support..

    i am a HUGE fan of steve.. i think hes great- hes witty, articulate, entertaining, intelligent, and i think no matter what happens, he will be successful with any path he chooses to pursue..

  33. kasey31

    January 4, 2013 at 11:41 PM

    @oyoung- i used to LOVE parenthood, but it has become so so depressing.. always making me cry..

    as for the other shows.. revenge is at the top of my list, then the bachelor.. then? american idol i guess?

    @iheart- i have heard really great things about scandal, but im afraid im too far behind now.. id love to catch up! is it THAT good? as in, “revenge” good?

    @randais- im with u.. idk if ill be able to stomach watching nicki.. why her?! ps.. ive been hearing rumors that britney wont be returning to the x factor next season.. they must have been reading our comments ; )

  34. villablancuh

    January 5, 2013 at 5:20 AM

    The bullies at ABC will lose in the end. But it’s the long middle that will be painful and expensive for Steve. I hope and pray Steve stands up to these asinine bullies. The Bachelor’s tired, scripted and over-edited silliness was spoiled long ago. So Steve’s info is the only thing keeping the show remotely interesting and slightly relevant. TEAM STEVE!!!!!

  35. bigfatwoman

    January 5, 2013 at 5:44 AM

    Agree with @iheartvino…..unfortunately the last go-round has made me skeptical of Steve. He clearly enjoys his position as “expert” and I think it would take a lot for him to concede that he can’t afford to fight ABC or that he hasn’t been completely honest.

    Having said that, I enjoy watching the show and knowing the ending. I read the blog because it is mildly amusing and it’s one of the many ways I waste and pass time on the computer. I don’t care about the minutiae of each episode—just need the name of the final gal.

    Just please don’t add the ‘donate’ button again.

  36. jillbeau

    January 5, 2013 at 8:01 AM

    @RSAddict…thanks for that link! That sounds like a pretty good idea. I’m glad that the kids are not going to be weighed in on TV. Allison seems to be pretty positive about the contestants on this season. Last season was the WORST. Remember all the whiny, annoying contestants? Remember Conda? She was so ridiculous and negative, always willing to start a fight with anyone. Then those 2 guys quit because there was a chance that a previously eliminated contestant might return to the game. I’m pretty sure a previously eliminated contestant returns to the game every season (or almost every season), how could they be surprised?

    @Bachfan…fantastic advice.

  37. karynr

    January 5, 2013 at 8:07 AM

    The Phoenix newspaper has a big paragraph on the RS lawsuit today. It’s in the people/gossip column and it was picked up from USA Today. It’s either a really slow celebrity news day or ABC is desperately trying to drum up ratings for Sean’s season. Is ABC using RS to gain ratings for next season? Could they be planting these stories in various media outlets to gain more viewers? It seems kind of strange that such a big deal is being made out of a blogger for a reality show.

  38. iheartvino

    January 5, 2013 at 9:33 AM

    @karyn, my very first thought when first hearing about the new lawsuit was how convenient the timing of this is for ABC. So ridiculous of them to go public with this right before the start of the new season. I truly hope there’s a way for Steve to make this all go away (without having to stop spoiling of course) if he hasn’t done anything to deserve to get sued again. It’s unfair of ABC and the production company to keep doing this to him if he’s not violating the agreement.

    Kasey made a valid point- we don’t know the exact wording of the agreement so it’s definitely not my place to make assumptions on what happened. I can only go off of what happened in the past. If Steve and his attorney know with 100% confidence that he hasn’t violated the agreement and doesn’t deserve this lawsuit, then I wouldn’t have a problem with him putting the donate button back up. The fees have got to be piling up again, unfortunately. I’m pulling for him and hope this works out in his favor.

    @kasey- re: Scandal- yes, it’s definitely Revenge-g

  39. iheartvino

    January 5, 2013 at 9:35 AM

    Oops hit “done” too soon, sorry. (I’m on my phone)
    @kasey- yes, Scandal is definitely Revenge-good. 🙂 In fact, I am even going to go as far as saying I liked the winter finale of Scandal better then the Revenge one.

  40. kasey31

    January 5, 2013 at 9:51 AM

    @iheart- re: revenge.. noooo, no u didnt!!! jk.. well i might have to just check it out then..

  41. addicted2rs

    January 5, 2013 at 10:06 AM

    The media coverage of this lawsuit has to have some positive connotations for Steve as it alerts more people to the fact that he provides spoilers for the Bach/ette.

    P.S. don’t confuse me with the person who created the handle: RSaddict 🙂

  42. karynr

    January 5, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    addicted2rs, I’ll bet Steve’s had a big spike in people coming to this site now that the lawsuit news is all over the place. I’d love to know how it’s impacting the site, and hope he’s benefiting, as long as everything he’s doing is legal and above-board.

    Though the lawsuit is by no means funny, at all, I am getting a kick out of the fact that this blogger I’ve been reading for ten years has gotten so big his name is in my paper!

  43. Kali

    January 5, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    One thing is undeniable: Steve has the right to “spoil” anything on his blog via information provided to him by another source, assuming he received that information legitimately. That right is guaranteed him by the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. The question then becomes: did he receive that information legitimately and from what source(s)? The theory that someone within the Bachelor franchise is providing episodes early is interesting. Perhaps someone is throwing copies in the trash and a janitor is grabbing them and forwarding them to Steve. (Perhaps it’s even a team effort!) Perhaps someone who is supposed to be shredding information isn’t doing a 100% job. Perhaps a lot of things are going Steve’s way. But unless Steve is actively soliciting such information – and, in fact, paying for it – the fault lies within the Bachelor organization, not with Steve.

    Again, as with the original lawsuit, the [lazy] Bachelor franchise needs to clean up its own house. Without the freebies from within, Steve most likely would have no ammunition with which to “spoil” this show.

  44. freeasabird

    January 5, 2013 at 11:15 PM

    Found the new lawsuit papers online…

    I read the first lawsuit all the way thru and it was still in the jurisdiction stage when Mathew Chan stopped uploading it because it was settled. If you don’t want to read a bunch of “Upon information and belief”s don’t read it.

    Page 7 line 22 (numbered on the left) talks about the May settlement agreement and goes onto the next page as to what Steve supposedly did. Except for the legalese it’s worth a read.

  45. bigfatwoman

    January 6, 2013 at 9:42 AM

    I looked at the link.

    Do you really think that the powers at ABC would file this new lawsuit if they didn’t have credible information that Steve had breached his agreement?

    And….do you really believe Steve would confess to us that he did?

    We can go round and round that we love spoilers, wouldn’t watch the show without them, Steve is a harmless blogger, blah blah blah……but if he violated a legal agreement — then he’s a fool. I have no patience for entitled people or those who think rules don’t apply to them.

    I’m sure we’ll never hear the full story.

  46. bigfatwoman

    January 6, 2013 at 9:46 AM

    That is an interesting read indeed.

    Doesn’t matter how much you enjoy reading the spoilers or if you think this is overkill by ABC — a legal agreement is binding and if Steve violated it he’s an entitled fool.

    Regardless, I don’t exactly expect Steve to come clean to his readers. In fact, I’ve never found him to be contrite for his actions or grateful to his readers.

    Seems to me at this point he has made his own bed….

  47. randais

    January 6, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    @kasey – WE can hope! Maybe they DO read our ever so insightful comments and have actually taken them to heart, consequently sent Brittany on her oh so clueless way! Bahhaha unlikely, but a girl can hope ;).

    We went to see Les Mis last night….long movie but so worth it. It didn’t suck me in immediately but, it didn’t take long and I thought it was quite remarkable. I’m always impressed when stars can sing in addition to acting. While the story was a bit tricky to get into, once I did I truly enjoyed it.

    Biggest Loser AND Revenge tonight….thank goodness for technology!

  48. carol

    January 6, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    bigfatwoman wrote: “Do you really think that the powers at ABC would file this new lawsuit if they didn’t have credible information that Steve had breached his agreement?”

    Yes. Very inexpensive for ABC to use their in-house legal department to drive Steve to bankruptcy defending (frivolous) lawsuits which will eventually shut him down. Steve not only didn’t apologize nor act contrite – he actually repeatedly thumbed his nose at them. He has threatened, taunted and teased the powers-that-be over at ABC. So now it is personal. They are going to hit him in the wallet again and again and again until he cries ‘uncle’.

    And here’s my thoughts about whether or not ABC’s claims are legitimate. Steve has a lot of pressure to come through to his readers every season. An enormous amount of pressure. He brags endlessly about his abilities to obtain and publish results way ahead of broadcast. But there are the few fail-safe ways he can get his information. I doubt he is meeting many of his sources in person. He has almost no choice but to eventually resort to trusting emailers/texters/twitters/direct messagers. I’m sure he has his ways of vetting the sender but at some point, due to pressure and temptation, I suspect he takes the leap of faith and moves into a communicative relationship. So it seems that it would be quite easy for ABC to lure Steve into a trap via nefarious email accounts and using compliments and tantalizing bits of information as bait.

  49. lucky

    January 6, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    freeasabird: Thanks much for posting the link to the lawsuit. A good read.

    bigfat: “no patience for entitled people” Who are you to judge whether Steve is “entitled”? Lucky to get sought-after-spoilers? Absolutely. Entitled? Evidence shows that he works very hard to get this information and is not “entitled” to it. Whether you like him or not, I don’t think he has ever portrayed a sense of entitlement.

    carol: agree with your well-made points. One more – NKZ is probably hoping to get the names of the informants through discovery in order to sue them for breach of their confidentiality agreements. That’s what happened in the first suit, but only the 3 came forward (assuming it was only those 3). I’d find it hard for anyone who gave Steve information that had already signed a confidentiality agreement to come forward and admit it unless they’ve already received an agreement from NKZ et al not to sue them for breach of their signed confidentiality agreement.

    Guess we will see how it plays out.

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