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Bachelorette Desiree Spoilers

“Reader Emails,” “Dr. Reality Steve,” & More of Desiree’s Guys

How did the whole “behind the scenes” thing work exactly? Did the contestants know they were being taped? It felt kind of inauthentic to me.

Comment: (This person is referring to the “Women Tell All” show) At least it was something different. If it weren’t for that, the show would’ve been the same thing as it has been for years. So I applaud them trying something different. I kinda liked it. I’m guessing they knew the cameras were rolling, but not sure.

The best thing this show has done (which probably led to the increase in ratings this season) was embrace social media. Sure, the tweets they’ve run on the screen during the show is pretty annoying, and they basically just choose to air all the kiss ass ones, but they don’t care. All that matters to them now is having a face in the pop culture world, be trending on Twitter, and creating a buzz. And that’s what the tweets are doing. That’s why Chris Harrison, Mike Fleiss, Robert Mills, etc all tweet all day long on Mondays leading up to the show reminding you to watch. They NEVER did that in the past. But they’ve come to realize, it only helps the show when they do.
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Steve,

Love the blog, love the spoilers, love your sarcastic humor… Love it all! Been reading for quite a while now but this is my first time to write.

So here’s the thing… I’ve never questioned how you get your information, that’s your business… But the more I think about it, it just sounds fishy. How could a huge production company, like Next Entertainment, and a huge network, like ABC, not get you out of business if they really wanted to? Is it because you are on their payroll?? How else do you explain where you get your info? Wouldn’t the executives at the network and production company have figured out by now who was your source (sources)? And isn’t it weird that your blog creates more interest in the show… It’s almost like a marketing tactic used to get more viewers interested. Maybe I’m reading too much into things.. And even if you were a paid employee, you would probably never tell us, as I’m sure that’s part of your contract. (Also, you can reference the lawsuits… But that could all be part of the “game” too!)

But think about it… This season you spoiled Catherine as Sean’s pick. Great. Have no reason to doubt you, except that they’ve barely shown any air time with Sean and Catherine until the very last few episodes. So because of your blog, more and more viewers are tuning in because it just seems so unreal that Sean actually ends up with Catherine.

I also think back to Brad 2.0 season. Read your blog, totally believed Brad was going to choose Chantal. But week after week he seemed so taken by Emily. He even told Emily he loved her. But your readers believed Chantal was the one… Despite almost the entire season of Brad going out of his way to pursue Emily. Makes me wonder if you were told to put that spoiler out there because all the footage for that season showed Brad wanted Emily, but Fleiss and Co. didn’t want viewers to stop watching, so you “spoil” the show, tell us it’s Chantal, we watch (and believe), yet in the end Emily wins (Shock! No one saw that one coming!)! Like I said, just seems fishy…

I know this is long, and I’m fully prepared for a super sarcastic response refuting my claims… So, bring it on! I’m sending the email despite that… I figure it never hurts to ask!

Thanks Steve!

Comment: I’ve addressed this 1000 times. I’m not on ABC’s payroll, I’m not on NZK’s payroll, I don’t work for Mike Fleiss, I’m not Chris Harrison’s illegitimate son, etc. None of that. I’m a blogger who has numerous resources to this show. You ask “How would they have not figured out your sources by now?” Ummmm, because I have numerous sources. Sure, if this was one person feeding me info every season for the last 3 years, of course they would’ve caught them by now. But it’s not. Never has been and never will be. They do not give me enough credit for A) having half a brain and piecing stuff together and B) having a network of sources well beyond what they think it is. I’m even surprised by some of the info that comes to me.

The Brad and Chantal thing I’ve discussed at length as well, and the bottom line is I had two pieces of information coming to me from two different sides, I added them together and instead of 2 + 2 equaling 4, it turned out to be 5. I jumped to a conclusion that season based on two bits of information I received, and I turned out to be wrong. Chantal was in Palm Springs with her family for Thanksgiving that year (she went there pretty much straight from South Africa), it’s just Brad wasn’t with her. I was given pretty good information that he was. Then for 3 months, I was never told otherwise, until about 2 weeks before the finale, and then I laid out the finale for everyone, and told everyone not only was it Emily, but more evidence to back it up and that was Chantal was dating a guy named Jeff Razore, who she is now married to.

You are reading waaaaaay too much into things. People can put their conspiracy theories away with me and this show. You people actually think a giant production company like NZK is filing TWO lawsuits against me in the span of 15 months if I was on their payroll? Would you like to see my legal fees? Do you want to talk to my lawyers? I mean, how much more proof do you need? The court documents are public. Go look em’ up. You honestly think that this conspiracy thing is running so deep that we’re faking lawsuits, I’m faking hiring lawyers and faking spending thousands of dollars, and that this is all just a ruse so they can draw more attention to their show? Please. Just stop. Saying that I’m somehow in cahoots with ABC/NZK Productions is literally the stupidest most ignorant thing anyone can ever say and it’s offensive. Completely ridiculous and there’s facts to back up that I’m not.
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Thank you for introducing me to Burning Love. My girlfriend was one of those girls who took The Bachelor way too seriously, which always kind of drove me nuts. She tweeted at old contestants, over-analyzed who was right and wrong for the lead, etc. Total pain in the ass. When I saw BL on your blog, I showed it to her as well. After watching a few episodes, she quickly realized how dumb The Bachelor is, which she never would’ve realized had BL not pointed out all its blatant flaws. So thank you for eradicating that problem from my life. We now just watch The Bachelor together to enjoy it for its ridiculousness. So ironically the show that makes fun of the show that supposedly brings couples together has brought more couples together than the actual show that brings couples together.

Comment: I’m sorry. Not sorry that I turned you on to “Burning Love,” because it’s genius. I’m sorry that your wife is one of “them.” You know, that person whose Twitter account is filled with tweets to celebrities and reality people. Really? Is your life that void of any sort of entertainment, that all you can do all day is tweet at a bunch of celebrities in hopes that one of them writes back “thanks,” so then you can run and scream to your friends, “OH MY GOD!!!! Kim Kardashian just told me thanks!!! I’m dying!!!” Sad, sad individuals. And there’s plenty on there. They are quite a sight to see. Even worse? Those same people who only tweet at reality “celebrities.” Yikes. I’m glad your wife has seen the light. At least I hope she has.
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Hi Steve! I have a question about Brooke from Aaron’s Bachelor season. I live in Springfield, MO where Aaron still lives & he was actually at the same bar as my friends & I last night. Us girls were all chatting about his season and we had a question come up so I thought I would e-mail you & see if you knew the answer. We remember after the rose ceremony leading to the hometown dates, so the episode before the hometown dates aired, that Brooke & Aaron had a conversation kind of away from the cameras and Brooke was crying & explaining to Aaron how her Dad wasn’t going to be at the hometown date. I kind of remember it being a big deal, but then again I don’t… Do you know why her Dad wasn’t present at the hometown date for her & why it was such a big, emotional deal to her? I know his season was forever ago, and I tried finding the episode online & couldn’t come up with anything, so I’m not sure if you’ll remember and/or know but any insight would be great!

Comment: Alex and Aaron’s season were the only two that I’ve never seen, so I have no idea what you’re talking about, nor do I have an answer. Sorry.
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Hi Steve,

I just watched episode 9 of burning love, and as usual started reading the comments. It appears that Yahoo promoted this from their news section(maybe because they won a lot of Streamy awards?) and clearly most commenters- and there were many! had no clue what this was about. Huge negative reaction thinking this was real and didn’t understand the parody. Too bad, because it was pretty good in my opinion. I hope this doesn’t negatively impact the series.

Episode 8 was even better, although a lot of the people didn’t get that either, although most were fans, because there was so much regarding behind the scenes production and nonsense about tabloids and fame-whore. Only a little of that was shown on the actual show with Jake and Vienna.

I would not have got many of those jokes either if I didn’t read your blog. IE- the host directing the conversation, then when the producer physically dragged Tamara back, I thought I would fall off my chair laughing. The Ben Stiller couple scene that totally slammed the whole “supportive” Bachelor family/nation image- contact a low level producer- my assistant’s assistant- priceless! (Episode 9 had some too, with the handler and spray tan in the beginning.)

Anyway, it’s clear that the writer Erica Oyama certainly has done her research, and I have to think that your columns play a part. Thanks for your blog, enjoy so much. Also, you have been giving awesome advice in your Dr. Reality Steve columns lately!

Comment: “Burning Love” is so good because it hits every nuance of the “Bachelor” franchise that most people take for granted, all while pointing out its ridiculousness in a subtle way without banging you over the head with it. Can’t wait til they do their season 3 “Bachelor Pad” parody where “everyone is competing for $900.” I think what also makes it so good and authentic is they got some A and B list actors to do it. If this was the same exact show, but with actors you’d never heard of or rarely seen before, it’d still be funny, but I don’t think it’d have the effect it does.

Mind boggling there are dolts out there that are commenting under the videos about how they think it’s real. However, I can’t say I’m too surprised. It’s a universal epidemic that will never have any cure in this country: People who comment on message boards and comments sections all day long, for the most part, are f***ing idiots. Just go read any random story on any entertainment pop culture site anywhere, and dive into the comments section reading some of these peoples responses. You’ll just shake your head in shame reading what these people have to say. It’s embarrassing.
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Hey RS,

Quick non-bachelor related question for you:

What are some of your top favorite TV shows? (Minus reality TV shows) Feel free to list as many as you want!

I know you touched on this question before and I remember you mentioning ‘Friday Night Lights’ and ‘90210’ but those are the only two I seem to remember… Please spare me the hassle of searching through all your old posts to find the answer! 🙂 My husband and I recently got Netflix and are hoping to find some good shows to start watching!

Thanks!

Comment: All time favorite shows (in order): 1) “24” 2) “Friday Night Lights” 3) “Lost” 4) “Homeland” 5) (tie) “Married…with Children” and “Beverly Hills 90210.”
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Great job with the spoilers this season!

A few reactions to the finale. Hearing Lindsey melting down with “I don’t want to be alone” made me realize how cruel this show is. Not only did they brainwash this girl into thinking she’s in love with a guy she’s known for six weeks, they did it so completely that she actually thought that she was going to end up alone when it didn’t work out with him. Like he’s the only person in the world who could be worth dating/ marrying! Pretty insane. I actually felt bad about watching this girl’s trauma for entertainment. Do you ever feel sorry for contestants? If so, who? Or do you always feel that they’re getting what they signed up for?

Thanks for the great columns! Loved reading em.

Comment: Yep. This whole show is brainwash. Yet every season they find 25 suckers to do it.
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Congratulations!! It must feel good to be able to say I told you so after tonight.
My question is do the contestants get any support from mental health professionals after being dumped? It seems very cold to have someone think they will be getting proposed to and then get dumped on tv with millions of people watching.
Btw I love your columns

Comment: Yes. When you’re eliminated, you immediately meet with a psychiatrist they have on payroll. It’s part of your exit. There’s always someone around to talk to if you need it.
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Congratulations Steve! I love it when your plan comes together. I appreciate your honesty and truth telling when it comes to everything Bachelor/Bachelorette.

Just once I’d like the end couple to say something like: “I knew he liked me because when we sent notes back and forth and when we could talk without the cameras around on the overnight date, we devised a plan to let each other know how much we liked each other without saying any words or showing affection. We agreed to wear the same color shirt on the final date and picked the color X. That way, if he was going to pick me at the end, I had some reassurance. We out-smarted the producers on this one.”

Wouldn’t that be great? Anyways, congrats again, and keep it Real.

Comment: Or better yet, someone actually hearing their name said at a rose ceremony and being like, “Yeah, I’m good. I think I’ll pass. See ya everyone.” Too bad that’ll never happen.
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Steve,

Enjoy your work/blog. I haven’t been able to find the answer anywhere, so to you I come–

Can you give me and my wife an idea on the film dates of the bachelor/ette series? Do they film from September-November? How does that work? Further, how do the contestants (especially the ones that get sent home) not reveal that they didn’t win?

It’s probably more simple than we’re making it out to be but, I figured if anyone would know the specifics, it’d be you.

Comment: “Bachelor” films Sept-Nov, first episode airs first Monday in January and ends mid-March.

“Bachelorette” films March-May, first episode airs mid/end of May and ends mid-end of July.

“Bachelor Pad” films for 2 1/2 weeks in the beginning of June and airs right after “Bachelorette” ends airing.

As far as the contestants, you gotta remember maybe less than 5% of their audience is following along during filming, and checking my spoilers, and furiously googling every detail about them, and stalking FB, Twitter, and Instagram pages to know when they’re home. So once the show begins airing, everyone is already home and the contestants technically aren’t supposed to talk to anyone about their experience, nor even contact other contestants until the show is done airing. Does that actually happen? No.
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Hi Steve!

Did you end up buying Ashley & JP a wedding gift? Also, if Sean & Catherine invite you to the wedding, would you attend? Just think about it – Fleiss & Chris would be watching you like a hawk the whole time, wondering what intel you were gathering for your site. It would be great! Haha.

I realize you won’t publish spoilers for Eva Longoria’s new dating/love show “Ready For Love”, but do you plan on watching?

Thanks for the spoilers! I appreciate them. I will still watch this ridiculous show even though I know the outcome.

Comment: Yes, I bought Ashley & JP a gift. It was off their registry.

Sure. I’d love to attend Sean & Catherine’s wedding if there ever is one. But I won’t. Why would they invite me? I don’t know them.

I have zero interest in watching “Ready for Love.” However, one of Des’ guys might have a bit of a link to that show. I’m working on that one now.
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Steve,

I’ve got a couple of questions that I haven’t seen on your sight that relate to our next Bachelorette.

1) At her home town date, Desiree brought Sean to a nice place that you said was in the Orange County area, although it looked like it might be in the Hollywood Hills area. Regardless, on numerous shots of them at dinner we see a number of diplomas on the wall. Our viewing group was surprised to see them and were wondering where they were from and for what? Is Desiree more educated than we all thought?

2) You mentioned all season long that Lindsay was the front runner for the next Bachelorette until nearly the end of the Bachelor played out and then you said she didn’t get it. You hinted that you might know the reason, but have not publicly state why. Given Lindsay’s tremendous performance on the ATFR, she would clearly be good in the role. Why didn’t she get it?

Thanks for being a great source for all things Bachelor related and for spilling the beans on all of the manipulation and producer inspired drama!

Comment: 1) I’m still very confused about the Desiree hometown date. I don’t know why it wasn’t in Ohio where her parents live, I don’t know why it was filmed the day after Lindsay’s hometown in Missouri (they always have an off day of travel in between hometown dates), and I don’t know where that house was (LA or Newport Beach), or if it was even her place at all.

2) Well, according to what I posted earlier, she told all the media yesterday she’s been seeing a guy for a month. So yeah, I guess that would kill any chances. There are other things I’ve heard though but no factual basis for them.

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  1. ccrider

    March 19, 2013 at 8:20 AM

    Karyn…..count me in for the whole “pick the F4” thing! I’m not filling out a March Madness bracket this year so maybe doing this will help fill the void. 🙂

  2. randais

    March 19, 2013 at 9:20 AM

    I’m not emailing him, besides he reads these comments, just acts like he doesn’t. BUT if BP is cancelled, he’s going to need to find another way drum up additional traffic on this site. Maybe they’re cancelling BP to hit RS where it counts…just kidding, but it could definitely cut into his income.

  3. jacey

    March 19, 2013 at 9:26 AM

    Dear Kelly Pickler – Girl, your body is sick! You’ve got great form and elegance in your movement, too. I think you’re going to be a contender for that cheeky trophy. But — GF, don’t know if you were channeling Halle Berry with that haircut, but you got Sandy Duncan. You’re 26 and you look like you’re pushing 40 from the neck up. And ease off the make-up, too. I know you’re a country star, but less is definitely more. You’re fantastic looking au naturale.

  4. texas

    March 19, 2013 at 9:27 AM

    That sounds like fun to have final 4 picks or F1 picks, though I’m sure I would suck at it. I do wonder if people would just create a bunch of usernames and then guess a bunch of different guys. It would be easy to “cheat” that way. Probably wouldn’t really matter though, since I doubt RS would offer any sort of prize even if he did make a page to post picks on.

    I can’t get a good feel for Desiree and who she is and what she’s like. She seems sweet and fun, but there’s something reserved about her. She seems hard to really get to know, though TV anyway. It would be tough for me to make any sort of decent guess, even if there are a few guys who are easy to rule out.

  5. texas

    March 19, 2013 at 9:28 AM

    through TV

  6. lucky

    March 19, 2013 at 9:38 AM

    I don’t like Des (except I thought it was cool that she climbed a tree) and I stopped watching the Bach/ette show. There is so little content in the 2 hours and my time is too valuable to waste. They’re all the same (both the lead and the contestants), only the names are changed. Even the drama is the same and the characters are all the same. It’s a stale show. Just compare it to Burning Love and you’ll see the difference in the content that they fill in 12-15 minutes. I still read Steve’s comments because he’s very entertaining and the video clips he embeds are fun (I don’t have time to search the web for the stuff he includes). Plus, Steve keeps my knowledge of new vocabulary words current if you know what I mean.

  7. goosiegirl

    March 19, 2013 at 9:44 AM

    Jacey, I heard Kellie Pickler shaved her head last year to support a friend with cancer. Also, the makeup was probably put on by the show’s make-up artists, which for ballroom, is usually pretty heavy. That combined with her pale skin probably doesn’t help.

  8. jacey

    March 19, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    Yes, @goosiegirl. I’m aware that Kellie Pickler shaved her head in solidarity with a friend going through chemo. That was six months ago. It’s not the short hair, but the way it’s styled. Are you forgetting there are several other women on the show including the co-host, pros, and contestants with more complimentary makeup? Same makeup crew. To your point, perhaps the pale skin is a contributing factor, but it’s not like that there isn’t loads of options available for all hues. She’s young and gorgeous. No sense in looking forty long before she gets there.

  9. jacey

    March 19, 2013 at 10:50 AM

    and btw… She got robbed on that score last night. It sucks being 1st out of the gate. She was better than that “21” Sean Lowe got ’19’ for Pete’s sake and he’s not even in the same league with her — though he did a bit better than I thought he would.

  10. kasey31

    March 19, 2013 at 11:17 AM

    haha karynr, i say if he gives u a snarky response, then we all agree to cast our f4 (for those that want to participate) in a future column that we all agree on. someone can keep track of the predictions, and there ya go! we dont need steve ; )

  11. karynr

    March 19, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    I’ll send him an email later tonight. Wish me luck. I’m really not in the mood for a snarky, condescending reply. In fact, at one point a year or two ago, he told me to never email him again. I have once since then with a quick question and he was pretty decent, but I’ll suck it up and do it again.

  12. karynr

    March 19, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    We could put our four picks in a specially designated column/section, specifically for this contest, if RS agrees. If this gets out to some of the other blogs, it could be great business for his site. But, he hates being told how to change the way he does business, which I respect. We could always just designate RS’s column that lists all contestants to be the one for entries. We can just use the comments section.
    Winner gets Maddie!!!! Just kidding. I’d settle for the satisfaction of getting it right!

  13. kasey31

    March 19, 2013 at 2:21 PM

    yes, karyn.. if all else fails, i think we should just cast our predictions in one column (comment section).. i didnt win anything, but the satisfaction of getting it right was pretty cool!

  14. randais

    March 19, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    DWTS
    I don’t love Kelly’s hair either but she’s a good dancer.
    Victor & Lindsey, I don’t know boxing, at all but how cute is Lindsey?
    Ingo/Kim, I’ll bet he improves. He’s very athletic and I just think he’s going to get better.
    Lisa and Gelb…Lisa who? I could watch Gelb all day. Of course she got Jiggy some airtime.
    DL and Cheryl, DL’s funny, the song was hilarious, on the upside, doesn’t look like we’ll have to watch Cheryl for long ;).They got killed by the scores.
    Zendaya and Val, so funny moment at the beginning of the dance when she was facing the wrong way and Val turned her around but how awkward was the initial stance where she appeared to be holding her boob? No sure if that was intentional or not, but it WAS distasteful. On the other hand, I loved her costume (very tasteful), more “costume” than skin and she IS a great dancer.
    Sean and Pita, cheesy but he should outlast DL.It was painful to watch but very cute that Catherine and his mom were sitting next to each other cheering him on.
    Alexandra & Mark, HATED her costume. He boobs were coming out and Bruno wasn’t exaggerating when he said she “was busting out”. It wasn’t flattering. Gymnasts are muscular and that costume accentuated it. She was an ok dancer.
    Dorothy and Tristan, loved their set, her dress AND the song. I think she has a lot of promise. I believe ice skaters ARE naturals unlike exbachelors.
    Wynonna and Tony, I was surprised she couldn’t shimmy better than but I didn’t think she was awful. I loved that her family was there supporting her too and how her mom was soliciting votes for her.
    Andy and Sharna, well first of all, she’s gorgeous. I didn’t think he was horrible. I loved her attentiveness to him and to his reactions.
    Jacoby & Karina, football playah can move! I think he’ll improve and I enjoyed watching.

    Sorry for the long post. I may even vote this season, if for no other reason than to get rid of the riff raff bach. ;D

  15. Athena

    March 19, 2013 at 3:07 PM

    @randais and DWTS: great recap! I thought watching Sean was kind of painful, just as I suspected it would be, but then again it’s not like anyone is asking me to be on the show OR that I’d be able to do any better.

  16. randais

    March 19, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    Thanks Athena, sorry it was long winded.

    **The Following**
    I caved, one more try.
    Glad I did, the gore wasn’t at all “turned down” but the extra stuff was much less noticeable. My favorite lines of the episode: Ryan to Joe – “Sorry about your friends, they’re…..dead. Joe’s response – “It’s ok, I’ve got more”. Jacob finally killed. Paul was going downhill….fast and it wasn’t looking good for him. He convinced Jacob, that Jacob still “owed him”. I was sure he was talking about Jacob killing his own mom since the boys showed up at Jacobs parents where his mom stumbled upon them, but he wasn’t. Jacob smothered Paul. Jacob also finally contacted Roderick (anyone seeing shades of John Boy Walton in this character?). Roderick sent him the address of the “compound” so he could reunite with Emma who is starting to fixate on Joe. This is unlikely to thrill Emma, she’s quite insane. Roderick’s good, I’m worried he may be almost sane, that would be a twist.
    I’ll be back next week.

  17. karynr

    March 19, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    kasey…why not just run the final four contest on the column that introduces all the contestants? The deadline can be no later then the day before the following Tuesday column? That way, RS doesn’t really need to be involved. I really think it would be best to not make any suggestions regarding this creation of his. I’d help track and tally, and anyone else who wants to help keep it going, feel free. I have no doubt I’ll suck, but it will be fun guessing.

  18. Athena

    March 19, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    @ The Following: randais, I had to skip your post after reading just the first line or so because I’m one week behind due to DWTS and no DVR where I am. Last week’s episode was horribly gory and I was about to agree with the earlier posts saying that it was just too much. I really don’t need or want to see that kind of blood lust. If last night really wasn’t so bad, I’ll give it one more try.

  19. elizabeth82

    March 19, 2013 at 7:05 PM

    Now that there’s no Bach, I’m down to just watching Arias trial coverage and the Bible miniseries on the History Channel. When is DWTS gonna go off the air already, ha? Good news about Bach Pad biting the dust–what a trashy show.

    I like the F4 reader predictions idea, but I don’t know how good I’ll be at guessing based on just their looks and bio info (before season actually starts). Plus I’ll probably be biased by who I think is cute and that may not be her taste, ha.

  20. kasey31

    March 19, 2013 at 7:06 PM

    karyn- yes, yes, yes!!! i will help, too! agreed, deadline will be the tues after the men have all been introduced.. that will give everyone a little while to get a “feel” for who they want to choose.. and im definitely willing to help keep track of everyone’s predictioins, too.. if all else fails, we can mark down the column date and always refer back to it once the spoilers are posted..

    i agree that asking steve to get involved probably isnt the best idea.. he has a lot going on with des’s season starting up, and i think we can handle this!

  21. kasey31

    March 19, 2013 at 7:16 PM

    elizabeth, dont get me started on the arias trial! are u watching? what do u think about the doctor and the trial overall?? this doctor looks like a complete idiot to me.. so unprofessional, but i guess this was the best they could get.. her defense seems to be falling apart at the seams with every passing day, and i love watching it happen.. i pray she is found guilty.

    **the following**
    randais, is it really not that bad? bc i agree with previous posters, i could hardly stomach all of the blood and gore.. way too much for me. but i like the show, i like the plot, the acting is pretty good, i love kevin bacon, i think its a unique storyline, and i dont want to give up on it.. but if its going to continue to be that gory, i just cant. the scene that did it for me was the flashback of joe kiling that girl strapped down to the table..
    but i trust u, so ill give this last mondays episode one more try..

  22. elizabeth82

    March 19, 2013 at 9:46 PM

    @kasey: You mean the psychologist? Since he’s not a dr. 😉 He’s not coming across as convincing at all. She ought to be found guilty. . .

  23. karynr

    March 20, 2013 at 4:03 AM

    *Arias Trial*
    Doc Samuels is a typical defense attorney ho. He doesn’t make a very clear case, and if this is the best Nurmi can do, she’s a goner. I’m usually not so cynical about someone possibly losing their life, but she gives me the creeps big time. My son wanted to drive down to the courthouse to see if he could get in one day, and I told him their were probably lines around the block of people with the same thoughts. I would NOT want to be in that courtroom with the evil girl, grieving family and Juan Martinez’s high, hostile energy!

  24. karynr

    March 20, 2013 at 4:08 AM

    meant there not their, second time used.

    Deal Kasey…..I guess we’re officially leading the contest.

    Watching DWTS right now. Back later with my thoughts. Like you all just can’t wait….HAH….LOL.

  25. randais

    March 20, 2013 at 6:23 AM

    Athena & Kasey – I don’t want to mislead you, there is still “gore”. Warning – the diner scene. What I didn’t miss in this weeks episode was the sexual aspect, especially as it related to killing. I just felt the story line was bit more palatable than last weeks and thus, more interesting.

    Elizabeth – I want to watch The Bible too, but I think I’ll wait until it’s finished airing and try to catch it all in one fell swoop. My husband has been watching and he said they took a lot of liberties in this weeks episode but past episodes seemed to have been based more fatually. Either way, I’m hearing very little negative about the series and look forward to watching.

  26. velatria

    March 20, 2013 at 7:23 AM

    I’m actually disappointed that BP is cancelled….it would mean that I will have to do some (gasp) work in the house now that Bachelor is over.

    Who have watched Grimm on NBC here?

  27. ccrider

    March 20, 2013 at 8:11 AM

    Randais and anyone else wanting to watch The Bible. Yes, they have taken liberties but not to the point of changing any outcome or the meaning of the story. Most of the liberties being taken are additions that aren’t mentioned in the Bible….doesn’t mean they didn’t happen but one would have to suppose that if they did happen then this is how it went down. (does that even make sense? it does in my mind!) 🙂

    I’ll admit it…..I watched Splash last night. It was somewhat interesting to hear the back stories of these people and watch them make at least a little progress from practicing to performing. But whats up with the judges giving points for just trying?? They’re ALL trying! I felt sorry for Keshia because (in my opinion) she was a lot better than Kareem and Louie. But oh well….she probably doesn’t have as much entertainment value to the show as Kareem and Louie do.

  28. elizabeth82

    March 20, 2013 at 8:16 AM

    *The Bible miniseries*
    @randais: I missed the first two episodes (or is it four? depends on if you count each hour as an ep) and was disappointed that I can’t catch them online through the History Channel website. I was hoping they’d have them up there. They do have five-min. recap videos of them, though. I’d prefer to catch it all in a row, too, but don’t know if they’ll reair. DVD set’s a whopping $60! Although the series purports to cover Genesis through Revelation, it doesn’t cover everything; interesting to see what they choose to leave out. I find the series entertaining and visually impressive. She hasn’t come on yet, but I’m not really looking forward to Roma Downey and her overly-plastic-surgeried face as the older Mary mother of Jesus. It’s SO distracting to look at her now; she should have left well enough alone.

  29. JovisMom

    March 20, 2013 at 8:22 AM

    Those who are watching The Bible have you noticed how the ACTOR playing The Devil looks just like Obama. I say ACTOR because I have read articles on how the liberals and Obama supporters are up in arms over it…..I think it is rather fitting. LOL!!

  30. jacey

    March 20, 2013 at 8:50 AM

    Actually… there *was* more blood lust on the latest installment of “The Following.” A couple women with the same name as Joe’s wife were murdered — one with a spear in a crowded restaurant, and another thrown from the window of her apartment and was shown in a pool of blood on the pavement below. There was an attempt on a third, but Ryan saved her. The bright spot of the night — if you can call it that — was when Ryan shot that blonde chick with the ponytail (Joe’s Hench woman). I found myself cheering. Finally, a bit of comeuppance. I’ll tune in next week just to see how Emma handles Jacob’s return to the group. I wanna see some conflicts among those head cases. One psycho can’t be enough to maintain unity with a pack of homicidal drones. Where’s the dissension???

  31. randais

    March 20, 2013 at 8:52 AM

    **SMASH**
    I still love this show but when it first aired I was curious how one broadway musical could “keep up the interest”, I guess now that there are actually three shows (including off Broadway) involved, that could be the answer. What gets confusing is keeping up with all the switches. People quitting one show, falling into another, I wouldn’t mind something just a bit more consistent. Maybe that’s unrealistic in this setting, I’m clearly not that familiar with the world of Broadway acting. I also wonder, where do these people get paychecks from? Only one of these shows is actually performing to audiences. I know the backing/financing covers payroll, during rehearsals, etc, but the cost of living in NYC is astronomical! Hard to believe they’re making a living. Just hard for me to comprehend, working on a “HOPE”. A hope that something you’re investing so much time and effort in, is going to take off. Still love this world (Broadway) and this show, the story lines are interesting and entertaining and NOT GORY! ;D

    P.S. the ONE show I WON’T be watching is Hannibal (interesting how that rhymes with cannibal, right?)

  32. randais

    March 20, 2013 at 8:59 AM

    Jovis – “like”

    Jacey – Not sure if I’d totally agree. As I said previously, there is still a lot of “gore” but I still did find this episode much more watchable than last weeks. I guess when an episode is ALL inclusive (gore, sex, sex induced by gore, etc) then I go on overload. Also, for me personally (even though this hasn’t happened recently), if you include ANY harm or hurt to an animal, I’m done. Also, the “dissension” there seems to be quite a bit of it in my opinion, Roderick and Emma is a perfect example. This has the potential to get good.

  33. karynr

    March 20, 2013 at 10:14 AM

    DWTS
    Insomnia is great when you have a bunch of stuff on your dvr to watch!
    My top choices after watching the first dances are: Dorothy-I grew up watching her, so she holds a special place in my heart. Plus, it sounds like we went through the same battle 5 years ago! Very graceful.
    Kelly-What an kooky, fun, nice person. Great body and lots of potential.
    Zendaya-has the potential to take it all….at 16!
    Ingo-I used to be hooked on AMC/OLTL/GH years ago and thought he was hot. I still wouldn’t kick him out of bed. Sexy as h*** in my opinion, though I tend to think of him as Jax. He’ll be around for a while.
    Jacoby-HOT…HOT…HOT. Had to take a cold shower after watching him. He’ll be here for a while.

    Everyone else was middle of the pack, with DL and Wynonna bringing up the rear. I feel for her since she’s been through so much lately, but both need to go soon. She sure is a strong lady, or so she seems.

    Sean didn’t do as badly as I thought he would. At first, I predicted one of the first three to go. Now he may last about 4-5 weeks.

  34. jacey

    March 20, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    @randais, guess it depends on your level of tolerance… There was plenty of blood, though they did leave more to the imagination. Let’s tally the body count during this week’s installment… this includes murders in flashbacks

    1) Claire Matthews – high-power speared to death.
    2) Claire Matthews – Thrown from a 8+ story window. Mangled body shown in pool of blood on the sidewalk.
    3) Flashback – Gagged Girl repeatedly stabbed to death
    4) Jacob smothers his psycho partner. Okay — that was a mercy killing.
    5) “Mr Helper” at the carnival
    6) The cop assisting Claire #3.
    7) Psycho *itch Louisa shot by Ryan. Okay. That was a clean kill, though very glad to see her nailed finally.

    I think what made this week more tolerable for me — as I stated previously — is they scored a couple for the good guys this time around.

    And you’re right… there is dissension — of the evil variety. Besides Jacob, I would like to see someone have some semblance of a conscience or hesitancy. Although, now he has killed, too. If that’s the direction they’re going with him, would love to see him squeeze the life out of Emma. Or — it’d be perfectly poetic if, in frustration, Joe Carrol strangled her to death. Oh, he likes to cutting, doesn’t he?

  35. Athena

    March 20, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    @ The Following: For me, to be honest, it’s all about Kevin Bacon. And, IMO, he’s not in enough scenes at present to motivate me to try to staunch the nausea all the violence causes. Give me more beef – ahem, I mean pork, or give me the remote!

  36. kasey31

    March 20, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    **the following**
    i think the slow, drawn out killings are the ones that really bother me, also depends on the brutality of the killings (not that any killing isnt brutal).. and im with randais, if one animal gets hurt or killed, im done.

  37. jacey

    March 20, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    If the producers of The Bible are going for accuracy in their story telling, they should have depicted Lucifer, the Light Bearer, according to scripture. The Bible says his heart was lifted up “because of his beauty”. He likely retains a good percentage of that. He was an angel after all… perfect… created by God’s own hands. When he appeared to Jesus in the wilderness, he did so as an angel of light … beguiling. I can take a very educated guess at where the images we’re all accustomed got their genesis, but it ain’t so, people.

  38. randais

    March 20, 2013 at 5:18 PM

    @jacey – I lol’d at, “If that’s the direction they’re going with him, would love to see him squeeze the life out of Emma.” and I couldn’t agree more. He could pop her like the pimple that she is. Too graphic?

  39. jacey

    March 20, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    @randais – Not too graphic. In lock step with the nature of the show. Wouldn’t it be great if it happened sooner than later?
    Or even better if Claire takes her out? You know, for kidnapping her son.

    At any rate… Oh please, writers. Kill off Emma!!!

  40. kasey31

    March 20, 2013 at 7:14 PM

    *the followngi**
    HATE the character emma, but i do have to say that she plays that role brilliantly…

  41. rob22

    March 21, 2013 at 7:58 AM

    I’ve been really busy…. just checking in to see if SeanCat has broken up yet. Did Sean receive a binder listing Catherine’s sexual history or has a former choir boy accused Sean of fondling him…. anything like that?

  42. rob22

    March 21, 2013 at 8:13 AM

    BTW: for those emailing RS, if you can’t handle a sarcastic, dismissive response and roll with it, then don’t send the email. It’s like entering a rattlesnake nest and expecting not to get bit.

  43. randais

    March 21, 2013 at 10:23 AM

    @rob – nailed it.

  44. randais

    March 21, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    Nashville – rerun last night :\

    **Idol**
    I actually really liked Devin last night. I mean I still liked the girls too, but Devin stood out for me.

  45. liz123

    March 21, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    Are any of you watching All Star Celebrity Apprentice? I just love that show!! Omarosa is one cold-hearted bitch. Have you guys heard that Omarosa is suing Latoya Jackson for saying she “probably pulled the plug on Michael Clarke Duncan”?? I’ve actually enjoyed Latoya this season b/c she’s constantly throwing out little quips like that! I hope anybody wins but O, though my favs are Lil John & Trace Adkins. Anybody heard any spoilers on this season yet? I’ve searched, but haven’t found anything. I know there isn’t a winner yet, but spoilers usually have it narrowed down to 2 by the time the finale airs.

  46. oyoung1117

    March 21, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    I am totally in for the final four predictions. We should just do it under the Desiree’s guys category column.
    I already have a favorite, but my favorites always get kicked out at 4 or 3.

  47. randais

    March 21, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    liz – I’m watching. I can’t stand Omarosa either but I didn’t think Latoya played smart, in fact I think she made one of the stupidiest moves EVER in the history of this show by NOT taking “O” in with her. So while I will give her “sweet” I can NOT give her “smart”. I will also, give Lotoya entertaining, because I thoroughly enjoyed her onryness (yup, made that one up) AND her calling out the “O”. Also, I heard that “O” threatened to sue her but that has been followed up with any action….yet.

  48. randais

    March 21, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    has NOT been followed up…ffs

  49. liz123

    March 21, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    @randais, yeah, I just finished watching the episode (my kids & job & husband watching “Into the Wormhole with Morgan Freeman” keeps me consistently behind on my DVR, LOL!) & Toy definitely worded it that in a way that is probably going to keep Omarosa from being able to take legal action. I think both times she said that she said “Omarosa probably pulled the plug” & it was obviously tongue-in-cheek which is probably going to kill O’s case.

    **DWTS**
    Just now watching Monday’s show (see above on why I’m SO behind) & boy oh boy Kellie Pickler can dance!! Although her poor hair looked horrible, I guess there’s only so much you can do with hair in the midst of growing out. I’m a native Nashvillian & even though Kellie’s only a Nashville-transplant, I can’t help but root for her when she says she’s bringing the trophy back here to us! <3 Go Kellie go!!!! I'll definitely be voting this season (& never have in the past).

  50. kasey31

    March 21, 2013 at 5:21 PM

    liz, love kellie on dwts! shes adorable…im rooting for her and zandaya, i think they are both beautiful dancers 🙂

    oyoung, thats a good idea to post under “des’s guys” i guess we would just need to make sure theres a definite deadline… but i like that idea, that would make it easier to reference back to also.. and easier to keep track of.. thanks!

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