Congratulations on another successful season! Love your site.
My question is, going into the finale, do the two finalists (in this case Lindsay and Catherine) know who is first and who is second? Meaning, did Lindsay know, getting out of her car to see Sean, that she was first, and therefore likely going home? And then when it’s Catherine’s turn, does she know that she’s second, and he’s already seen Lindsay?
Lots of luck with the lawsuit! We’re all on your side! Bachelor/Bachelorette wouldn’t be the same without your site, honestly. Way more enjoyable!
Comment: No. From the time hometown dates start, the only time you ever see the other people remaining is at the rose ceremonies. You don’t all hang at the same hotel chatting about your time together, etc. You are completely separated from every other contestant from the time hometowns start.
As for the final rose ceremony, I guess if you’re a fan of the show, and you know that they like to do the proposal around sundown, then yeah, I guess Lindsay could’ve looked at her watch and maybe assumed she was getting eliminated. Or looked at the positioning of the sun. Chantal said she had a feeling she was getting the boot on the final day because of what time she was arriving to see Brad. So I guess it’s possible, but you don’t actually know for sure until you get up there.
What are some categories you would use for a Bachelorette drinking game? We played for the Bachelor, but most of the drinks came from crying or using relationship analogies (thank you AshLee), which we’re afraid there will be less of on the Bachelorette. What are some of the most obnoxiously repetitive/cliche things that the male contestants say or do?
Comment: I would think those are obvious by now. It’s the same phrases and words used every season.
I agree with you that Catherine and Sean have a rough road ahead, but what did you think about them emphasizing that they wanted to get married “soon” and didn’t want a waiting period? I took that to mean in a couple months. Because of that I actually think they’ll get married but we may get our first Bachelor divorce.
I don’t mind Catherine at all, but I’ve had several friends rush down the aisle because they “just want to be a wife already!” and many of them were divorced quickly. Seems like an immature statement to me and makes me think neither of them are taking marriage as seriously as they should be. Thoughts on this apparent rush down the aisle?
Comment: I don’t understand what the point was to announce they want to get married soon and want it to be televised, yet said they haven’t set a date. Didn’t make much sense to me. Seems to me all they’re doing is putting more pressure on themselves to succeed as a couple. I’ll believe it when I see it.
This was an actual email. This is all it said.
Subject: Emily and Jef
Are they still together?
Comment: Totally! You didn’t see? They’re like, so in love and are getting married this weekend! It’s gonna be so special! They’re the BEST couple ever!
You kick @$$ and so does your website!! Here is my question! After the lead and their final pick get engaged and get to spend the 5 or so days together at their final destination spot, THEN do they get to watch TV???? I would be dying by that point! I would want to know so badly what is going on in the world and what happened on shows I missed! And also they are done filming, so I would not see the need to deprive them of that any longer. (Yes I know I just made access to a television seem like access to fresh water or something)
Comment: I would think so. I don’t know. I’ve never hung out with the final couple after the fact, but I’m sure they do. The show is over, and fantasy land has come to an end. I would think they get access to the internet and TV etc.
Hypothetical question here. Do you think that the producers of the Bachelor/Bachelorette would ever do the series where they would tape the week of dates and air the footage the following week in order to avoid spoilers? Meaning would they air the episode a week after it actually happened? Dont get me wrong, i love your spoilers and i love reading your sarcastic twist on this show. As i stated in another email, you remind me so much of my husband who has to watch the show with me and his comments almost completely mimic your columns!
Also question – related to 90210 – watched every single episode numerous times – who would you have perferred Kelly to have ended up with Brandon or Dylan and why?
Comment: No. Impossible to pull off and they’d never do it. The reason this show is successful, and the reason they do what they do is because the show is “made” in post production, where editors sit around watching hours and hours and hours and hours of footage to create “storylines” for their characters. They couldn’t do that if they were turning the show around so quickly.
Well, if you watched the new “90210,” (which plenty of people haven’t), you’d know that Kelly did end up marrying Dylan, they had a child, and got divorced. He’s a deadbeat dad and left Kelly as a single mother. I’m guessing Brandon wouldn’t have done that to her. Unless he decided to run off with some hot young D.C. politician, which is entirely possible.
There’s something I’ve always wondered about. Why do contestants on the Bachelor/Bachelorette use the phrase “[insert lead’s name] and I” so much, even when grammatically uncalled for? Here are some examples:
“This date is perfect for Sean and I.”
“Today is important for Jillian and I.”
“I can definitely see Ali and I having a future.”
“She interrupted Jake and I during our one-on-one time.”
It doesn’t take somebody who scored an 800 on the SAT Writing Section to see that these statements are grammatically incorrect. (By the way, I scored an 800 on the Writing Section and a 2370/2400 overall on the SAT – not to brag or anything.) The way you can tell whether to use “and I” or “and me” is by removing the other person’s name from the sentence. Then the above sentences become:
“This date is perfect for I.”
“Today is important for I.”
“I can definitely see I having a future.”
“She interrupted I during our one-on-one time.”
Obviously, these sound blatantly wrong. Are the contestants really that dumb, or do the producers forbid them from using the phrase “[insert lead’s name] and me”?
P.S. Just out of curiosity, what did you get on the SAT? I believe it was out of 1600 when you took it; correct me if I’m wrong.
Comment: Yeah, use the correct grammar dammit! I’m pissed! I’m just as much to blame for this as the next person. I know I do it all the time and don’t even realize it. Maybe they just don’t care about grammatical use on this show. No idea.
I’ll just pretend you didn’t ask me what my SAT scores were. Lets not go there. Uhhhh, I was a horrible test taker. Not to mention, I didn’t study for them all that much.
I just wanted to say, I’ve been reading your stuff since Ben’s season, and it’s getting to the point where something happens (usually more of a detail) on the show and I immediately look forward to your snark on it! Last night, one of those things was the depressing brown river for the big final date, I knew your rant would be priceless but just wanted to say it was better than anticipated! If their boat had tipped over they would have come up with an extra eye or head, AWESOME! But of course little Ditzy Voice was all “This is amaaaaazzzing, oh my God, sooooo pretty, oooh my God, to be here with Sean!”
I was curious, do most Bachelors/ettes get offered DWTS? It seems like a logical thing for ABC. I was just wondering if Ben was offered it, I can’t picture him doing it but I would watch that all day long! If he was, clearly he said no. Just curious.
Comment: Do most get offered? No. I think the executives there just determine someone’s popularity and if they’d translate well to their show. With Sean’s season bringing in the best ratings in two years, it was a no-brainer for them to ask him to do it.
From memory which Bachelor/ Bachelorette did you receive the most messages about in terms of people being disappointed that they were cast as the lead?
I am thinking maybe Ben? But I could be wrong?
I just think it is interesting, because it seems like every season there is a lot of people who say I hate that this person was cast, and then those same people end up liking the lead by the time the season ends.
Comment: Tough call, since every season there’s a faction of people who complain about who the next lead is. Everyone’s got their haters. But going off memory, I’d say when Brad was announced the second time. Because not only did you have people who just didn’t like him, you also had the people screaming, “Why does he get to do it again?!!! It didn’t even work the first time!!! Can’t they find anyone better???!!!” And yes, they wrote it like that, with that many exclamation points, to show us how mad they were. Sad. And I bet 90% of those people still tuned in to watch, are were probably a sobbing mess with their Bon Bons and box of Kleenex when he was proposing to Emily in South Africa. That’s why I don’t pay attention to people who scream and whine and piss about not liking the lead. Why are you telling me? I didn’t cast them. I don’t care.
I’m a senior in high school and in one of my classes my teacher loves the show and she set up a fantasy bachelor for our class for extra credit points and every Tuesday we have a “Black Rose Ceremony” (exactly what it sounds like) for the people whose contestant got voted off. Anyway, since I’m in a class full of teenage girls, most of whom are idiots, I waited for everyone to pick all the obvious choices and got Catherine. So after the finale, I got extra credit and all the girls in my class think I’m some kind of psychic genius. So thanks a bunch.
Comment: Take advantage of it while you can. At some point, someone will catch on that you know the winner every season. I’m glad I could help though.
Just a few questions and observations (sorry for any mistakes, English is not my 1st language):
1. I know you’ve talked a lot about which girls go on which dates, but I hope you won’t mind me asking about it again, I’m still confused about a few things. Can the lead choose which girl to take on a particular date? For example, do the producers tell the lead: this is what you’re doing on this date, who do you want to pick? Or do they usually have someone in mind? (example: Sean’s and Sarah’s first date) I guess the dates are prepared well in advance, but how soon before the date takes place do they decide which girl is going on that date?
2. Do you know how the shooting of the proposal takes place? I know that the producer’s priority is how to make it look good and not how to keep it real, but the romantic side of me still hopes that at least the proposal is done once and they just shoot it from different angles. I mean the actual proposal: the speech before the guy gets down on one knee, not the whole scene. I know that they take several takes of all the other things that happen at the time. I just hope that don’t make him repeat the proposal!
3. I hope you don’t take this the wrong way, but why do always need to emphasize how your spoilers are always right? For example, you repeated many times how for Sean’s season you’ll be vindicated after the finale airs. Or for Brad’s 2nd season how many days before the finale aired you corrected what you’d said and gave the right outcome. I read your blog mainly because it’s hilarious and insightful. Yes, it’s cool to find out how everything’s going to play out before the show airs, but honestly, even if you did get some of the outcome wrong it really wouldn’t bother me. Or is it just me and people are actually only interested in getting the correct spoilers?
4. It’s funny you mentioned doing the bachelor live: did you know that the Italians did that? It was a while ago and I don’t remember much, it was a flop, there was just that one season. But I do remember that they had a live show once a week where they showed and talked about the dates that took place during that week. I think they even had the family and friends of the lead and the contestants in the studio. And of course, they did the rose ceremony live.
Thank you! Keep up the good work!
Comment: 1) The lead doesn’t choose who goes on any of the dates. The producers do. The dates are planned out well in advance, before the lead is even cast. Once the show begins filming, because the lead is talking to producers all day long, they know which guys/girls that person likes the most, then they piece together who’ll get what date.
2) As far as I know, there are no re-shoots done on the final rose ceremony.
3) There are plenty of people who rely just on the spoilers. One thing you also got to remember is, no matter how long you’ve read my site, and how many different times you’ve heard me say the same thing, there’s always someone who is reading my site for the first time probably every day. So yeah, I repeat stuff because some people are unaware. If you read it every day, sure, it probably gets old to you, but just know there’s new people reading every day, and occasionally I have to fill them in on the site’s track record, when I announced stuff, who I spoiled, etc.
4) Interesting, but this show would never do that. It’d never work.