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Bachelorette Desiree Spoilers

“Reader Emails,” “Dr. Reality Steve,” & More of Desiree’s Guys

Hi Steve,

Congratulations on another successful season! Love your site.

My question is, going into the finale, do the two finalists (in this case Lindsay and Catherine) know who is first and who is second? Meaning, did Lindsay know, getting out of her car to see Sean, that she was first, and therefore likely going home? And then when it’s Catherine’s turn, does she know that she’s second, and he’s already seen Lindsay?

Lots of luck with the lawsuit! We’re all on your side! Bachelor/Bachelorette wouldn’t be the same without your site, honestly. Way more enjoyable!

Comment: No. From the time hometown dates start, the only time you ever see the other people remaining is at the rose ceremonies. You don’t all hang at the same hotel chatting about your time together, etc. You are completely separated from every other contestant from the time hometowns start.

As for the final rose ceremony, I guess if you’re a fan of the show, and you know that they like to do the proposal around sundown, then yeah, I guess Lindsay could’ve looked at her watch and maybe assumed she was getting eliminated. Or looked at the positioning of the sun. Chantal said she had a feeling she was getting the boot on the final day because of what time she was arriving to see Brad. So I guess it’s possible, but you don’t actually know for sure until you get up there.

What are some categories you would use for a Bachelorette drinking game? We played for the Bachelor, but most of the drinks came from crying or using relationship analogies (thank you AshLee), which we’re afraid there will be less of on the Bachelorette. What are some of the most obnoxiously repetitive/cliche things that the male contestants say or do?

Comment: I would think those are obvious by now. It’s the same phrases and words used every season.

Hey Steve!

I agree with you that Catherine and Sean have a rough road ahead, but what did you think about them emphasizing that they wanted to get married “soon” and didn’t want a waiting period? I took that to mean in a couple months. Because of that I actually think they’ll get married but we may get our first Bachelor divorce.

I don’t mind Catherine at all, but I’ve had several friends rush down the aisle because they “just want to be a wife already!” and many of them were divorced quickly. Seems like an immature statement to me and makes me think neither of them are taking marriage as seriously as they should be. Thoughts on this apparent rush down the aisle?

Comment: I don’t understand what the point was to announce they want to get married soon and want it to be televised, yet said they haven’t set a date. Didn’t make much sense to me. Seems to me all they’re doing is putting more pressure on themselves to succeed as a couple. I’ll believe it when I see it.

This was an actual email. This is all it said.

Subject: Emily and Jef

Are they still together?

Comment: Totally! You didn’t see? They’re like, so in love and are getting married this weekend! It’s gonna be so special! They’re the BEST couple ever!

Hey Steve!

You kick @$$ and so does your website!! Here is my question! After the lead and their final pick get engaged and get to spend the 5 or so days together at their final destination spot, THEN do they get to watch TV???? I would be dying by that point! I would want to know so badly what is going on in the world and what happened on shows I missed! And also they are done filming, so I would not see the need to deprive them of that any longer. (Yes I know I just made access to a television seem like access to fresh water or something)


Comment: I would think so. I don’t know. I’ve never hung out with the final couple after the fact, but I’m sure they do. The show is over, and fantasy land has come to an end. I would think they get access to the internet and TV etc.

Hi Steve!

Hypothetical question here. Do you think that the producers of the Bachelor/Bachelorette would ever do the series where they would tape the week of dates and air the footage the following week in order to avoid spoilers? Meaning would they air the episode a week after it actually happened? Dont get me wrong, i love your spoilers and i love reading your sarcastic twist on this show. As i stated in another email, you remind me so much of my husband who has to watch the show with me and his comments almost completely mimic your columns!

Also question – related to 90210 – watched every single episode numerous times – who would you have perferred Kelly to have ended up with Brandon or Dylan and why?

Comment: No. Impossible to pull off and they’d never do it. The reason this show is successful, and the reason they do what they do is because the show is “made” in post production, where editors sit around watching hours and hours and hours and hours of footage to create “storylines” for their characters. They couldn’t do that if they were turning the show around so quickly.

Well, if you watched the new “90210,” (which plenty of people haven’t), you’d know that Kelly did end up marrying Dylan, they had a child, and got divorced. He’s a deadbeat dad and left Kelly as a single mother. I’m guessing Brandon wouldn’t have done that to her. Unless he decided to run off with some hot young D.C. politician, which is entirely possible.

Hi Steve,

There’s something I’ve always wondered about. Why do contestants on the Bachelor/Bachelorette use the phrase “[insert lead’s name] and I” so much, even when grammatically uncalled for? Here are some examples:

“This date is perfect for Sean and I.”
“Today is important for Jillian and I.”
“I can definitely see Ali and I having a future.”
“She interrupted Jake and I during our one-on-one time.”

It doesn’t take somebody who scored an 800 on the SAT Writing Section to see that these statements are grammatically incorrect. (By the way, I scored an 800 on the Writing Section and a 2370/2400 overall on the SAT – not to brag or anything.) The way you can tell whether to use “and I” or “and me” is by removing the other person’s name from the sentence. Then the above sentences become:

“This date is perfect for I.”
“Today is important for I.”
“I can definitely see I having a future.”
“She interrupted I during our one-on-one time.”

Obviously, these sound blatantly wrong. Are the contestants really that dumb, or do the producers forbid them from using the phrase “[insert lead’s name] and me”?

P.S. Just out of curiosity, what did you get on the SAT? I believe it was out of 1600 when you took it; correct me if I’m wrong.

Comment: Yeah, use the correct grammar dammit! I’m pissed! I’m just as much to blame for this as the next person. I know I do it all the time and don’t even realize it. Maybe they just don’t care about grammatical use on this show. No idea.

I’ll just pretend you didn’t ask me what my SAT scores were. Lets not go there. Uhhhh, I was a horrible test taker. Not to mention, I didn’t study for them all that much.

Hi Steve!

I just wanted to say, I’ve been reading your stuff since Ben’s season, and it’s getting to the point where something happens (usually more of a detail) on the show and I immediately look forward to your snark on it! Last night, one of those things was the depressing brown river for the big final date, I knew your rant would be priceless but just wanted to say it was better than anticipated! If their boat had tipped over they would have come up with an extra eye or head, AWESOME! But of course little Ditzy Voice was all “This is amaaaaazzzing, oh my God, sooooo pretty, oooh my God, to be here with Sean!”

I was curious, do most Bachelors/ettes get offered DWTS? It seems like a logical thing for ABC. I was just wondering if Ben was offered it, I can’t picture him doing it but I would watch that all day long! If he was, clearly he said no. Just curious.

Comment: Do most get offered? No. I think the executives there just determine someone’s popularity and if they’d translate well to their show. With Sean’s season bringing in the best ratings in two years, it was a no-brainer for them to ask him to do it.

Hi Steve,

From memory which Bachelor/ Bachelorette did you receive the most messages about in terms of people being disappointed that they were cast as the lead?

I am thinking maybe Ben? But I could be wrong?

I just think it is interesting, because it seems like every season there is a lot of people who say I hate that this person was cast, and then those same people end up liking the lead by the time the season ends.

Comment: Tough call, since every season there’s a faction of people who complain about who the next lead is. Everyone’s got their haters. But going off memory, I’d say when Brad was announced the second time. Because not only did you have people who just didn’t like him, you also had the people screaming, “Why does he get to do it again?!!! It didn’t even work the first time!!! Can’t they find anyone better???!!!” And yes, they wrote it like that, with that many exclamation points, to show us how mad they were. Sad. And I bet 90% of those people still tuned in to watch, are were probably a sobbing mess with their Bon Bons and box of Kleenex when he was proposing to Emily in South Africa. That’s why I don’t pay attention to people who scream and whine and piss about not liking the lead. Why are you telling me? I didn’t cast them. I don’t care.

Hi Steve,

I’m a senior in high school and in one of my classes my teacher loves the show and she set up a fantasy bachelor for our class for extra credit points and every Tuesday we have a “Black Rose Ceremony” (exactly what it sounds like) for the people whose contestant got voted off. Anyway, since I’m in a class full of teenage girls, most of whom are idiots, I waited for everyone to pick all the obvious choices and got Catherine. So after the finale, I got extra credit and all the girls in my class think I’m some kind of psychic genius. So thanks a bunch.

Comment: Take advantage of it while you can. At some point, someone will catch on that you know the winner every season. I’m glad I could help though.

Hey Steve!

Just a few questions and observations (sorry for any mistakes, English is not my 1st language):

1. I know you’ve talked a lot about which girls go on which dates, but I hope you won’t mind me asking about it again, I’m still confused about a few things. Can the lead choose which girl to take on a particular date? For example, do the producers tell the lead: this is what you’re doing on this date, who do you want to pick? Or do they usually have someone in mind? (example: Sean’s and Sarah’s first date) I guess the dates are prepared well in advance, but how soon before the date takes place do they decide which girl is going on that date?

2. Do you know how the shooting of the proposal takes place? I know that the producer’s priority is how to make it look good and not how to keep it real, but the romantic side of me still hopes that at least the proposal is done once and they just shoot it from different angles. I mean the actual proposal: the speech before the guy gets down on one knee, not the whole scene. I know that they take several takes of all the other things that happen at the time. I just hope that don’t make him repeat the proposal!

3. I hope you don’t take this the wrong way, but why do always need to emphasize how your spoilers are always right? For example, you repeated many times how for Sean’s season you’ll be vindicated after the finale airs. Or for Brad’s 2nd season how many days before the finale aired you corrected what you’d said and gave the right outcome. I read your blog mainly because it’s hilarious and insightful. Yes, it’s cool to find out how everything’s going to play out before the show airs, but honestly, even if you did get some of the outcome wrong it really wouldn’t bother me. Or is it just me and people are actually only interested in getting the correct spoilers?

4. It’s funny you mentioned doing the bachelor live: did you know that the Italians did that? It was a while ago and I don’t remember much, it was a flop, there was just that one season. But I do remember that they had a live show once a week where they showed and talked about the dates that took place during that week. I think they even had the family and friends of the lead and the contestants in the studio. And of course, they did the rose ceremony live.

Thank you! Keep up the good work!

Comment: 1) The lead doesn’t choose who goes on any of the dates. The producers do. The dates are planned out well in advance, before the lead is even cast. Once the show begins filming, because the lead is talking to producers all day long, they know which guys/girls that person likes the most, then they piece together who’ll get what date.

2) As far as I know, there are no re-shoots done on the final rose ceremony.

3) There are plenty of people who rely just on the spoilers. One thing you also got to remember is, no matter how long you’ve read my site, and how many different times you’ve heard me say the same thing, there’s always someone who is reading my site for the first time probably every day. So yeah, I repeat stuff because some people are unaware. If you read it every day, sure, it probably gets old to you, but just know there’s new people reading every day, and occasionally I have to fill them in on the site’s track record, when I announced stuff, who I spoiled, etc.

4) Interesting, but this show would never do that. It’d never work.

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  1. ccrider

    March 19, 2013 at 8:20 AM

    Karyn…..count me in for the whole “pick the F4” thing! I’m not filling out a March Madness bracket this year so maybe doing this will help fill the void. 🙂

  2. randais

    March 19, 2013 at 9:20 AM

    I’m not emailing him, besides he reads these comments, just acts like he doesn’t. BUT if BP is cancelled, he’s going to need to find another way drum up additional traffic on this site. Maybe they’re cancelling BP to hit RS where it counts…just kidding, but it could definitely cut into his income.

  3. jacey

    March 19, 2013 at 9:26 AM

    Dear Kelly Pickler – Girl, your body is sick! You’ve got great form and elegance in your movement, too. I think you’re going to be a contender for that cheeky trophy. But — GF, don’t know if you were channeling Halle Berry with that haircut, but you got Sandy Duncan. You’re 26 and you look like you’re pushing 40 from the neck up. And ease off the make-up, too. I know you’re a country star, but less is definitely more. You’re fantastic looking au naturale.

  4. texas

    March 19, 2013 at 9:27 AM

    That sounds like fun to have final 4 picks or F1 picks, though I’m sure I would suck at it. I do wonder if people would just create a bunch of usernames and then guess a bunch of different guys. It would be easy to “cheat” that way. Probably wouldn’t really matter though, since I doubt RS would offer any sort of prize even if he did make a page to post picks on.

    I can’t get a good feel for Desiree and who she is and what she’s like. She seems sweet and fun, but there’s something reserved about her. She seems hard to really get to know, though TV anyway. It would be tough for me to make any sort of decent guess, even if there are a few guys who are easy to rule out.

  5. texas

    March 19, 2013 at 9:28 AM

    through TV

  6. lucky

    March 19, 2013 at 9:38 AM

    I don’t like Des (except I thought it was cool that she climbed a tree) and I stopped watching the Bach/ette show. There is so little content in the 2 hours and my time is too valuable to waste. They’re all the same (both the lead and the contestants), only the names are changed. Even the drama is the same and the characters are all the same. It’s a stale show. Just compare it to Burning Love and you’ll see the difference in the content that they fill in 12-15 minutes. I still read Steve’s comments because he’s very entertaining and the video clips he embeds are fun (I don’t have time to search the web for the stuff he includes). Plus, Steve keeps my knowledge of new vocabulary words current if you know what I mean.

  7. goosiegirl

    March 19, 2013 at 9:44 AM

    Jacey, I heard Kellie Pickler shaved her head last year to support a friend with cancer. Also, the makeup was probably put on by the show’s make-up artists, which for ballroom, is usually pretty heavy. That combined with her pale skin probably doesn’t help.

  8. jacey

    March 19, 2013 at 10:43 AM

    Yes, @goosiegirl. I’m aware that Kellie Pickler shaved her head in solidarity with a friend going through chemo. That was six months ago. It’s not the short hair, but the way it’s styled. Are you forgetting there are several other women on the show including the co-host, pros, and contestants with more complimentary makeup? Same makeup crew. To your point, perhaps the pale skin is a contributing factor, but it’s not like that there isn’t loads of options available for all hues. She’s young and gorgeous. No sense in looking forty long before she gets there.

  9. jacey

    March 19, 2013 at 10:50 AM

    and btw… She got robbed on that score last night. It sucks being 1st out of the gate. She was better than that “21” Sean Lowe got ’19’ for Pete’s sake and he’s not even in the same league with her — though he did a bit better than I thought he would.

  10. kasey31

    March 19, 2013 at 11:17 AM

    haha karynr, i say if he gives u a snarky response, then we all agree to cast our f4 (for those that want to participate) in a future column that we all agree on. someone can keep track of the predictions, and there ya go! we dont need steve ; )

  11. karynr

    March 19, 2013 at 1:45 PM

    I’ll send him an email later tonight. Wish me luck. I’m really not in the mood for a snarky, condescending reply. In fact, at one point a year or two ago, he told me to never email him again. I have once since then with a quick question and he was pretty decent, but I’ll suck it up and do it again.

  12. karynr

    March 19, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    We could put our four picks in a specially designated column/section, specifically for this contest, if RS agrees. If this gets out to some of the other blogs, it could be great business for his site. But, he hates being told how to change the way he does business, which I respect. We could always just designate RS’s column that lists all contestants to be the one for entries. We can just use the comments section.
    Winner gets Maddie!!!! Just kidding. I’d settle for the satisfaction of getting it right!

  13. kasey31

    March 19, 2013 at 2:21 PM

    yes, karyn.. if all else fails, i think we should just cast our predictions in one column (comment section).. i didnt win anything, but the satisfaction of getting it right was pretty cool!

  14. randais

    March 19, 2013 at 2:25 PM

    I don’t love Kelly’s hair either but she’s a good dancer.
    Victor & Lindsey, I don’t know boxing, at all but how cute is Lindsey?
    Ingo/Kim, I’ll bet he improves. He’s very athletic and I just think he’s going to get better.
    Lisa and Gelb…Lisa who? I could watch Gelb all day. Of course she got Jiggy some airtime.
    DL and Cheryl, DL’s funny, the song was hilarious, on the upside, doesn’t look like we’ll have to watch Cheryl for long ;).They got killed by the scores.
    Zendaya and Val, so funny moment at the beginning of the dance when she was facing the wrong way and Val turned her around but how awkward was the initial stance where she appeared to be holding her boob? No sure if that was intentional or not, but it WAS distasteful. On the other hand, I loved her costume (very tasteful), more “costume” than skin and she IS a great dancer.
    Sean and Pita, cheesy but he should outlast DL.It was painful to watch but very cute that Catherine and his mom were sitting next to each other cheering him on.
    Alexandra & Mark, HATED her costume. He boobs were coming out and Bruno wasn’t exaggerating when he said she “was busting out”. It wasn’t flattering. Gymnasts are muscular and that costume accentuated it. She was an ok dancer.
    Dorothy and Tristan, loved their set, her dress AND the song. I think she has a lot of promise. I believe ice skaters ARE naturals unlike exbachelors.
    Wynonna and Tony, I was surprised she couldn’t shimmy better than but I didn’t think she was awful. I loved that her family was there supporting her too and how her mom was soliciting votes for her.
    Andy and Sharna, well first of all, she’s gorgeous. I didn’t think he was horrible. I loved her attentiveness to him and to his reactions.
    Jacoby & Karina, football playah can move! I think he’ll improve and I enjoyed watching.

    Sorry for the long post. I may even vote this season, if for no other reason than to get rid of the riff raff bach. ;D

  15. Athena

    March 19, 2013 at 3:07 PM

    @randais and DWTS: great recap! I thought watching Sean was kind of painful, just as I suspected it would be, but then again it’s not like anyone is asking me to be on the show OR that I’d be able to do any better.

  16. randais

    March 19, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    Thanks Athena, sorry it was long winded.

    **The Following**
    I caved, one more try.
    Glad I did, the gore wasn’t at all “turned down” but the extra stuff was much less noticeable. My favorite lines of the episode: Ryan to Joe – “Sorry about your friends, they’re…..dead. Joe’s response – “It’s ok, I’ve got more”. Jacob finally killed. Paul was going downhill….fast and it wasn’t looking good for him. He convinced Jacob, that Jacob still “owed him”. I was sure he was talking about Jacob killing his own mom since the boys showed up at Jacobs parents where his mom stumbled upon them, but he wasn’t. Jacob smothered Paul. Jacob also finally contacted Roderick (anyone seeing shades of John Boy Walton in this character?). Roderick sent him the address of the “compound” so he could reunite with Emma who is starting to fixate on Joe. This is unlikely to thrill Emma, she’s quite insane. Roderick’s good, I’m worried he may be almost sane, that would be a twist.
    I’ll be back next week.

  17. karynr

    March 19, 2013 at 4:06 PM

    kasey…why not just run the final four contest on the column that introduces all the contestants? The deadline can be no later then the day before the following Tuesday column? That way, RS doesn’t really need to be involved. I really think it would be best to not make any suggestions regarding this creation of his. I’d help track and tally, and anyone else who wants to help keep it going, feel free. I have no doubt I’ll suck, but it will be fun guessing.

  18. Athena

    March 19, 2013 at 6:13 PM

    @ The Following: randais, I had to skip your post after reading just the first line or so because I’m one week behind due to DWTS and no DVR where I am. Last week’s episode was horribly gory and I was about to agree with the earlier posts saying that it was just too much. I really don’t need or want to see that kind of blood lust. If last night really wasn’t so bad, I’ll give it one more try.

  19. elizabeth82

    March 19, 2013 at 7:05 PM

    Now that there’s no Bach, I’m down to just watching Arias trial coverage and the Bible miniseries on the History Channel. When is DWTS gonna go off the air already, ha? Good news about Bach Pad biting the dust–what a trashy show.

    I like the F4 reader predictions idea, but I don’t know how good I’ll be at guessing based on just their looks and bio info (before season actually starts). Plus I’ll probably be biased by who I think is cute and that may not be her taste, ha.

  20. kasey31

    March 19, 2013 at 7:06 PM

    karyn- yes, yes, yes!!! i will help, too! agreed, deadline will be the tues after the men have all been introduced.. that will give everyone a little while to get a “feel” for who they want to choose.. and im definitely willing to help keep track of everyone’s predictioins, too.. if all else fails, we can mark down the column date and always refer back to it once the spoilers are posted..

    i agree that asking steve to get involved probably isnt the best idea.. he has a lot going on with des’s season starting up, and i think we can handle this!

  21. kasey31

    March 19, 2013 at 7:16 PM

    elizabeth, dont get me started on the arias trial! are u watching? what do u think about the doctor and the trial overall?? this doctor looks like a complete idiot to me.. so unprofessional, but i guess this was the best they could get.. her defense seems to be falling apart at the seams with every passing day, and i love watching it happen.. i pray she is found guilty.

    **the following**
    randais, is it really not that bad? bc i agree with previous posters, i could hardly stomach all of the blood and gore.. way too much for me. but i like the show, i like the plot, the acting is pretty good, i love kevin bacon, i think its a unique storyline, and i dont want to give up on it.. but if its going to continue to be that gory, i just cant. the scene that did it for me was the flashback of joe kiling that girl strapped down to the table..
    but i trust u, so ill give this last mondays episode one more try..

  22. elizabeth82

    March 19, 2013 at 9:46 PM

    @kasey: You mean the psychologist? Since he’s not a dr. 😉 He’s not coming across as convincing at all. She ought to be found guilty. . .

  23. karynr

    March 20, 2013 at 4:03 AM

    *Arias Trial*
    Doc Samuels is a typical defense attorney ho. He doesn’t make a very clear case, and if this is the best Nurmi can do, she’s a goner. I’m usually not so cynical about someone possibly losing their life, but she gives me the creeps big time. My son wanted to drive down to the courthouse to see if he could get in one day, and I told him their were probably lines around the block of people with the same thoughts. I would NOT want to be in that courtroom with the evil girl, grieving family and Juan Martinez’s high, hostile energy!

  24. karynr

    March 20, 2013 at 4:08 AM

    meant there not their, second time used.

    Deal Kasey…..I guess we’re officially leading the contest.

    Watching DWTS right now. Back later with my thoughts. Like you all just can’t wait….HAH….LOL.

  25. randais

    March 20, 2013 at 6:23 AM

    Athena & Kasey – I don’t want to mislead you, there is still “gore”. Warning – the diner scene. What I didn’t miss in this weeks episode was the sexual aspect, especially as it related to killing. I just felt the story line was bit more palatable than last weeks and thus, more interesting.

    Elizabeth – I want to watch The Bible too, but I think I’ll wait until it’s finished airing and try to catch it all in one fell swoop. My husband has been watching and he said they took a lot of liberties in this weeks episode but past episodes seemed to have been based more fatually. Either way, I’m hearing very little negative about the series and look forward to watching.

  26. velatria

    March 20, 2013 at 7:23 AM

    I’m actually disappointed that BP is cancelled….it would mean that I will have to do some (gasp) work in the house now that Bachelor is over.

    Who have watched Grimm on NBC here?

  27. ccrider

    March 20, 2013 at 8:11 AM

    Randais and anyone else wanting to watch The Bible. Yes, they have taken liberties but not to the point of changing any outcome or the meaning of the story. Most of the liberties being taken are additions that aren’t mentioned in the Bible….doesn’t mean they didn’t happen but one would have to suppose that if they did happen then this is how it went down. (does that even make sense? it does in my mind!) 🙂

    I’ll admit it…..I watched Splash last night. It was somewhat interesting to hear the back stories of these people and watch them make at least a little progress from practicing to performing. But whats up with the judges giving points for just trying?? They’re ALL trying! I felt sorry for Keshia because (in my opinion) she was a lot better than Kareem and Louie. But oh well….she probably doesn’t have as much entertainment value to the show as Kareem and Louie do.

  28. elizabeth82

    March 20, 2013 at 8:16 AM

    *The Bible miniseries*
    @randais: I missed the first two episodes (or is it four? depends on if you count each hour as an ep) and was disappointed that I can’t catch them online through the History Channel website. I was hoping they’d have them up there. They do have five-min. recap videos of them, though. I’d prefer to catch it all in a row, too, but don’t know if they’ll reair. DVD set’s a whopping $60! Although the series purports to cover Genesis through Revelation, it doesn’t cover everything; interesting to see what they choose to leave out. I find the series entertaining and visually impressive. She hasn’t come on yet, but I’m not really looking forward to Roma Downey and her overly-plastic-surgeried face as the older Mary mother of Jesus. It’s SO distracting to look at her now; she should have left well enough alone.

  29. JovisMom

    March 20, 2013 at 8:22 AM

    Those who are watching The Bible have you noticed how the ACTOR playing The Devil looks just like Obama. I say ACTOR because I have read articles on how the liberals and Obama supporters are up in arms over it…..I think it is rather fitting. LOL!!

  30. jacey

    March 20, 2013 at 8:50 AM

    Actually… there *was* more blood lust on the latest installment of “The Following.” A couple women with the same name as Joe’s wife were murdered — one with a spear in a crowded restaurant, and another thrown from the window of her apartment and was shown in a pool of blood on the pavement below. There was an attempt on a third, but Ryan saved her. The bright spot of the night — if you can call it that — was when Ryan shot that blonde chick with the ponytail (Joe’s Hench woman). I found myself cheering. Finally, a bit of comeuppance. I’ll tune in next week just to see how Emma handles Jacob’s return to the group. I wanna see some conflicts among those head cases. One psycho can’t be enough to maintain unity with a pack of homicidal drones. Where’s the dissension???

  31. randais

    March 20, 2013 at 8:52 AM

    I still love this show but when it first aired I was curious how one broadway musical could “keep up the interest”, I guess now that there are actually three shows (including off Broadway) involved, that could be the answer. What gets confusing is keeping up with all the switches. People quitting one show, falling into another, I wouldn’t mind something just a bit more consistent. Maybe that’s unrealistic in this setting, I’m clearly not that familiar with the world of Broadway acting. I also wonder, where do these people get paychecks from? Only one of these shows is actually performing to audiences. I know the backing/financing covers payroll, during rehearsals, etc, but the cost of living in NYC is astronomical! Hard to believe they’re making a living. Just hard for me to comprehend, working on a “HOPE”. A hope that something you’re investing so much time and effort in, is going to take off. Still love this world (Broadway) and this show, the story lines are interesting and entertaining and NOT GORY! ;D

    P.S. the ONE show I WON’T be watching is Hannibal (interesting how that rhymes with cannibal, right?)

  32. randais

    March 20, 2013 at 8:59 AM

    Jovis – “like”

    Jacey – Not sure if I’d totally agree. As I said previously, there is still a lot of “gore” but I still did find this episode much more watchable than last weeks. I guess when an episode is ALL inclusive (gore, sex, sex induced by gore, etc) then I go on overload. Also, for me personally (even though this hasn’t happened recently), if you include ANY harm or hurt to an animal, I’m done. Also, the “dissension” there seems to be quite a bit of it in my opinion, Roderick and Emma is a perfect example. This has the potential to get good.

  33. karynr

    March 20, 2013 at 10:14 AM

    Insomnia is great when you have a bunch of stuff on your dvr to watch!
    My top choices after watching the first dances are: Dorothy-I grew up watching her, so she holds a special place in my heart. Plus, it sounds like we went through the same battle 5 years ago! Very graceful.
    Kelly-What an kooky, fun, nice person. Great body and lots of potential.
    Zendaya-has the potential to take it all….at 16!
    Ingo-I used to be hooked on AMC/OLTL/GH years ago and thought he was hot. I still wouldn’t kick him out of bed. Sexy as h*** in my opinion, though I tend to think of him as Jax. He’ll be around for a while.
    Jacoby-HOT…HOT…HOT. Had to take a cold shower after watching him. He’ll be here for a while.

    Everyone else was middle of the pack, with DL and Wynonna bringing up the rear. I feel for her since she’s been through so much lately, but both need to go soon. She sure is a strong lady, or so she seems.

    Sean didn’t do as badly as I thought he would. At first, I predicted one of the first three to go. Now he may last about 4-5 weeks.

  34. jacey

    March 20, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    @randais, guess it depends on your level of tolerance… There was plenty of blood, though they did leave more to the imagination. Let’s tally the body count during this week’s installment… this includes murders in flashbacks

    1) Claire Matthews – high-power speared to death.
    2) Claire Matthews – Thrown from a 8+ story window. Mangled body shown in pool of blood on the sidewalk.
    3) Flashback – Gagged Girl repeatedly stabbed to death
    4) Jacob smothers his psycho partner. Okay — that was a mercy killing.
    5) “Mr Helper” at the carnival
    6) The cop assisting Claire #3.
    7) Psycho *itch Louisa shot by Ryan. Okay. That was a clean kill, though very glad to see her nailed finally.

    I think what made this week more tolerable for me — as I stated previously — is they scored a couple for the good guys this time around.

    And you’re right… there is dissension — of the evil variety. Besides Jacob, I would like to see someone have some semblance of a conscience or hesitancy. Although, now he has killed, too. If that’s the direction they’re going with him, would love to see him squeeze the life out of Emma. Or — it’d be perfectly poetic if, in frustration, Joe Carrol strangled her to death. Oh, he likes to cutting, doesn’t he?

  35. Athena

    March 20, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    @ The Following: For me, to be honest, it’s all about Kevin Bacon. And, IMO, he’s not in enough scenes at present to motivate me to try to staunch the nausea all the violence causes. Give me more beef – ahem, I mean pork, or give me the remote!

  36. kasey31

    March 20, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    **the following**
    i think the slow, drawn out killings are the ones that really bother me, also depends on the brutality of the killings (not that any killing isnt brutal).. and im with randais, if one animal gets hurt or killed, im done.

  37. jacey

    March 20, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    If the producers of The Bible are going for accuracy in their story telling, they should have depicted Lucifer, the Light Bearer, according to scripture. The Bible says his heart was lifted up “because of his beauty”. He likely retains a good percentage of that. He was an angel after all… perfect… created by God’s own hands. When he appeared to Jesus in the wilderness, he did so as an angel of light … beguiling. I can take a very educated guess at where the images we’re all accustomed got their genesis, but it ain’t so, people.

  38. randais

    March 20, 2013 at 5:18 PM

    @jacey – I lol’d at, “If that’s the direction they’re going with him, would love to see him squeeze the life out of Emma.” and I couldn’t agree more. He could pop her like the pimple that she is. Too graphic?

  39. jacey

    March 20, 2013 at 6:49 PM

    @randais – Not too graphic. In lock step with the nature of the show. Wouldn’t it be great if it happened sooner than later?
    Or even better if Claire takes her out? You know, for kidnapping her son.

    At any rate… Oh please, writers. Kill off Emma!!!

  40. kasey31

    March 20, 2013 at 7:14 PM

    *the followngi**
    HATE the character emma, but i do have to say that she plays that role brilliantly…

  41. rob22

    March 21, 2013 at 7:58 AM

    I’ve been really busy…. just checking in to see if SeanCat has broken up yet. Did Sean receive a binder listing Catherine’s sexual history or has a former choir boy accused Sean of fondling him…. anything like that?

  42. rob22

    March 21, 2013 at 8:13 AM

    BTW: for those emailing RS, if you can’t handle a sarcastic, dismissive response and roll with it, then don’t send the email. It’s like entering a rattlesnake nest and expecting not to get bit.

  43. randais

    March 21, 2013 at 10:23 AM

    @rob – nailed it.

  44. randais

    March 21, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    Nashville – rerun last night :\

    I actually really liked Devin last night. I mean I still liked the girls too, but Devin stood out for me.

  45. liz123

    March 21, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    Are any of you watching All Star Celebrity Apprentice? I just love that show!! Omarosa is one cold-hearted bitch. Have you guys heard that Omarosa is suing Latoya Jackson for saying she “probably pulled the plug on Michael Clarke Duncan”?? I’ve actually enjoyed Latoya this season b/c she’s constantly throwing out little quips like that! I hope anybody wins but O, though my favs are Lil John & Trace Adkins. Anybody heard any spoilers on this season yet? I’ve searched, but haven’t found anything. I know there isn’t a winner yet, but spoilers usually have it narrowed down to 2 by the time the finale airs.

  46. oyoung1117

    March 21, 2013 at 12:45 PM

    I am totally in for the final four predictions. We should just do it under the Desiree’s guys category column.
    I already have a favorite, but my favorites always get kicked out at 4 or 3.

  47. randais

    March 21, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    liz – I’m watching. I can’t stand Omarosa either but I didn’t think Latoya played smart, in fact I think she made one of the stupidiest moves EVER in the history of this show by NOT taking “O” in with her. So while I will give her “sweet” I can NOT give her “smart”. I will also, give Lotoya entertaining, because I thoroughly enjoyed her onryness (yup, made that one up) AND her calling out the “O”. Also, I heard that “O” threatened to sue her but that has been followed up with any action….yet.

  48. randais

    March 21, 2013 at 1:59 PM

    has NOT been followed up…ffs

  49. liz123

    March 21, 2013 at 2:58 PM

    @randais, yeah, I just finished watching the episode (my kids & job & husband watching “Into the Wormhole with Morgan Freeman” keeps me consistently behind on my DVR, LOL!) & Toy definitely worded it that in a way that is probably going to keep Omarosa from being able to take legal action. I think both times she said that she said “Omarosa probably pulled the plug” & it was obviously tongue-in-cheek which is probably going to kill O’s case.

    Just now watching Monday’s show (see above on why I’m SO behind) & boy oh boy Kellie Pickler can dance!! Although her poor hair looked horrible, I guess there’s only so much you can do with hair in the midst of growing out. I’m a native Nashvillian & even though Kellie’s only a Nashville-transplant, I can’t help but root for her when she says she’s bringing the trophy back here to us! <3 Go Kellie go!!!! I'll definitely be voting this season (& never have in the past).

  50. kasey31

    March 21, 2013 at 5:21 PM

    liz, love kellie on dwts! shes adorable…im rooting for her and zandaya, i think they are both beautiful dancers 🙂

    oyoung, thats a good idea to post under “des’s guys” i guess we would just need to make sure theres a definite deadline… but i like that idea, that would make it easier to reference back to also.. and easier to keep track of.. thanks!

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