Great recap as usual! I especially loved the part about the lactating through the light purple shirt. I’m surprised you didn’t comment on the button down combo with flip flops. Terrible! My fiance walked into the room during that scene, and he said “is that guy sweating through his nipples?”
Like a lot of people this season, I’ve definitely lost interest. I usually watch the episodes online after the fact, but yesterday’s was the only episode I watched this season. I just had it on as background noise while I was finishing up some work at him. I’m still reading your blog religiously though, thanks for making the season interesting!
Anyway, onto my question. From the interview you linked in your recap, Chris Harrison says that the lead chooses how many roses to give out at the ceremony. Is that really true? I can’t imagine how that’s not a producer decision…
Thanks as always!
Comment: I’m sure that is a combo of both. The producers know going in to each ceremony who the lead is into and who they aren’t into, so I’m sure it’s more of a, “Hey, why don’t we just get rid of three guys this week rather than prolonging it,” and Desiree agrees. They know who’s staying and who’s going. Could they have had six guys go to Madeira next week? Of course. And that 6th guy would’ve just gotten another free vacation, but for whatever reason, they decided to take five.
So what happened to the punch in the season promo? I figured it was between Ben and Michael but apparently not. I can’t see why they wouldn’t show that entire sequence for drama purposes.
Comment: Yet another thing they tease in the promo that’s never shown. Happens every season without fail.
I’ve been watching this show for a long time but only seriously started following since Jason’s season. For some reason it took me this long (as of yesterday) for the whole thing to “click” in my brain that this show is crazy. I think it took a bad season to take my blinders off. I was wondering if some of the leads think this is great and all in the beginning but as their own season gets closer to the end they start getting cold feet proposing to someone they hardly know? The drama seems forced and irrational this season and I feel like after seeing Drew act like a baby I am not interested in seeing him as the bachelor.
Also, do you think that the guys towards the end start freaking out themselves when they end up being the final 1 or 2? Do you think Brooks was really set in his head that I’m going to marry this girl? I don’t see it.
Also, why don’t you think Chris would be considered before Drew as the Bachelor? I kind of like Chris better than Drew despite the love poems. But honestly, I’d rather watch Juan Pablo who I can barely understand than watch either of them.
Comment: I’m sure plenty of them get cold feet and start thinking, “What the hell am I doing?” but then go through with it anyway because they are essentially pressured to.
Just because Brooks proposes at the end and is engaged doesn’t mean they’re gonna get married. I’ve been saying that for weeks.
I’m sure Chris is being considered, as are others. My opinion though is that they’ll go with Drew for the reasons I listed in today’s column.
I laughed my ass off reading your description of James going into the room and sitting between Michael and Juan Pablo. And annoying Michael was leaning away from him like he had germs. Michael and Drew = the most annoying people ever. SO dramatic and argumentative. James, sorry to say, is the only one being honest about what he’s thinking this show will do for him in the end.
Comment: I agree. James was being realistic about the show, but in this fantasy world that a lot of viewers to this show live in, verbalizing that is a no-no and your attention is supposed to be on Desiree every moment of the day. James busted up that fantasy, so he could no longer be around.
Do the contestants get to explore the countries they are in — on their own, without cameras — when they are not on dates or at ceremonies?
Why don’t the producers like Jef?
Does ABC try to figure out your sources for the spoilers — or have they given up on that?
P.S. I like Des a lot and think she was a good choice.
Comment: No. You’re basically locked up in a hotel room outside of getting time to go to the gym with your handler.
Plenty of reasons.
I don’t know. I’m sure they’re always trying to find who gives me info but that’s essentially an impossible task.
Hey Steve…couple of Questions
1. I was wondering why the dates closer to hometowns you have the least info on? What is up with this Brooks thing that happens next week that you reverence with the oh brooks brooks brooks !?Are you not completely sure of the info? you could tell us what you been hearing that makes you say that.
2. Also I heard that Drew leaving has something to do with his dad dying any truth to that? And I totally don’t see why Des kept Micheal I would have sent him home last week (along with Ben ) on that two on one with Ben his behavior was ridiculous!
Comment: 1) It’s definitely more difficult to get info on the dates right before hometowns. Some seasons I have great info on them, some I don’t. I never know. There’s really know rhyme or reason to it. I’m only as good as the info I get from others. What I have about Brooks has nothing to do with next week’s date or anything that happens in the episode. It’s just something I was given that I thought I’d share with you since I’m pretty sure you’ll find it, ummmm, interesting. And I’d do it if I got this about any contestant. This is not some vendetta against Brooks. I don’t know the guy. But I’d say he’s a rather important figure on the show this season, and this is something that people who follow this show I’m sure would like to see.
2) As far as I know, Drew’s dad isn’t dead so I have no idea where that is coming from. A couple months ago he started following my Facebook Fan Page, so unless something has happened since, I’m pretty sure he’s still alive.
Here was my question on the whole James scenario… do producers ride in the car back with the guys from the group dates? Bc if so, then my theory was they heard “the talk” in the car and thought it’d make a great story line and found someone who could be their mouthpiece for the Crazies who think the show is real and become their advocate and get offended for Des, blah blah blah (i.e., Drew).
My other thought was how, yet again, this show is basically admitting how fake it is when the storyline promotes “secret” conversations of their own contestants being caught talking about how the show will further their “careers” (first Ben, now James) and breaking that fourth wall (if there ever was one). They are basically admitting everything you call the show out on is correct, but then try to appease the Crazies and say, “No, we really are a show about finding love” by stoking the indignation of their advocate (again, Drew). What a joke.
Comment: I’m sure the producers absolutely had something to do with getting the guys to talk about James and Mikey’s car conversation. That’s their job. They’ll present it as, “Hey, what do you think of Mikey telling James they can party it up in Chicago when this is over? How does that make you feel that you’re here for Des and these guys don’t seem to care?”
I’ve been a fan of this show for as long as I can remember. I know it’s scripted but with likable Bachelorettes and Bachelors like Emily, Ashlee and Sean it was fun to watch.
But this season is horrible. During past seasons I wouldn’t answer any calls or make plans on Monday’s from 8-10 to watch the show but this season I have stopped watching entirely because I am so uninterested. I don’t even care enough to read your spoilers (sorry, not your fault).
Des is probably a nice girl and I can’t figure out exactly WHY i’m so uninterested in her and these group of guys but I seriously can’t sit through 2 hours a week of this season. Ugh so awful.
Anyways, I think the franchise is screwed if they pick one of this seasons guys to be the bachelor because no one cares, even the die hard fans (yup i’ll admitt it) like myself. You’ve probably been asked already, but do you think it is likely that they will use a past season “loser” like Roberto since this group of guys are all duds?
Comment: Well, Roberto has a Playmate girlfriend last time I checked, so unless they’ve broken up and I haven’t heard, I don’t think it’ll be him. I don’t think they’re gonna hit the panic button after one down season and cast outside the family. It will be someone we are familiar with, whether it be one of Des’ guys or maybe reaching back and getting someone else from a past season. I’m still sticking with Drew though for now.
Been reading since Brad 2.0 and now writing for the first time. I live in Barcelona and thought it was HILARIOUS where the guys’ hotel was. It wasn’t even in Barcelona; it was in a town further south called Sitges which is known as the gay mecca of Spain. I just thought it was funny considering how much has been made of the huge “bromance” element this season – maybe they got a little wild while they were in Sitges 😉
Also, is it just me or is Chris the most normal guy by a long shot? Yes, he’s a total dork and I don’t know why he seems to think he’s Shakespeare, but he’s the only one who seems genuine to me and like a real person (unlike Brooks who needs to come out of the closet ASAP and seems to be an attention whore). Anyway, just wondering if you had any dirt on Chris or thought he was a good guy too (in spite of the poetry).
Comment: Never been to Barcelona but had no idea about Sitges. Interesting note though.
Haven’t really heard much on Chris other than he doesn’t win.
Hi Steve! First off, thanks for answering my question on one of your columns a couple of weeks ago, it made my day! I have another question for you 🙂
What do you think about Chris (besides from being kind of dull) and Des’s connection on the show? It seems like he’s pretty genuine when comparing him to Brooks. Speaking of that, has there been any ‘trouble in paradise’ between Brooks and Des since their engagement? He’s kind of creepy and seems like a phony. I guess Des picked him probably based off his physical appearance, right? Anyway, thanks for the hilarious columns, I always look forward to reading them!
Comment: Has there been trouble in paradise? Not that I’ve heard. I don’t know why Des picked him. We’ll have to wait until they’re together to get that answer.
It’s a telling sign of how boring this season is that people care more about who is going to be the next Bachelor than Des right now. Seems like everyone’s already moved on.
My question is, if the producers don’t think they have a good candidate from this season, do you think they’d go back to an older season, like they did with Emily? Obviously Emily was a unique case and Drew/Chris are the obvious front runners, but do you think they’d consider that? If so, who do you think they might consider? (Obviously not Jef)
Going off of that, if it hadn’t been for Emily, who do you think would have been the next Bachelorette off of Ben’s season?
Thanks and happy birthday to Olivia! You are such a great uncle to those kids! I can tell you’d make a great dad.
Comment: I think they’ll keep it in the family, and that’s about as far as I can go. I’d have to go back through past seasons and contestants to even contemplate who would be on their list if they decided to go with someone from a previous season.
From Ben’s season? I think Kacie would’ve been the girl to get it. She was most well liked by the masses just based off response I saw. Lindzi was a zero, and Nikki has essentially fallen off the face of the earth since her season ended. Good for her. I don’t even think I’ve seen or heard her name in a tweet or Instagram picture since the WTA taping, and that’s pretty impressive considering how many of these people constantly post pictures of themselves any time they hang out with cast members.
Hey, I just want to say that I love all your commentary and your site.
I think the reason this season is such a bust is because Des and the guys take themselves TOO SERIOUSLY! I mean, relax a little people. I saw an interview with Jillian Harris and Wes, and they’re still friends. She said that a grown man coming on “The Bachelorette” to specifically find love is not the kind of person she’d want to marry anyway. I completely agree. Even JP who MARRIED the bachelorette Ashley said that he thought she was crazy when after the first rose ceremony she said that she thinks her future husband is there.
At the end of the day, it’s an experience. And if you end up with love – great. You could tell from the very first episode that Des takes herself too seriously with the guy asking her to “the fantasy suite”. Was it inappropriate, sure. Was her reaction a little over the top, definitely. The guys are so annoying as well. So not connected to reality.
When I saw the promos, I was thinking that James is an ass. After watching the episode, I’m kinda on his side. Maybe he’s along for the ride, but at the end of the day, most of the guys are. As long as you’re not coming with clear ill intentions, then you’re good. And if you don’t develop a connection, sooner or later you’re gonna go. Is it that bad that it might be a bit later?
I really liked a lot of the guys from Jillian’s season because they seemed much more grounded and realistic. So did she. She seemed to take it all with a grain of salt, and didn’t take herself super seriously. I’d love to see another bachelorette like her. Not like Des, or Emily (who also took herself WAY too seriously).
Comment: Good points.
I am sure by now someone else has emailed you about the town of Sitges where the guys stayed outside of Barcelona (Hotel Melia Sitges)…. But in case no one has, I wanted to chime in. Sitges is a gorgeous seaside town close to Barcelona. It is also a world famous gay resort community. Given the viewer feedback about the guys this season, I found this to be an amusing coincidence. 🙂
Comment: Yes, actually about 10 emails ago. So the tote board now looks like this:
“Drew is gay”: 4
“Sitges is the gay part of Barcelona:” 2
“Brooks is gay”: 1
Hi Steve! Hope all is well & Happy 4th of July!
More of a comment. Drew is 100% gay. Maybe he’s on the DL or hasn’t come “out” as yet but when watching last night with 2 of my gay male friends both said he definitely is gay.
Not that is matters if he’s gay but if he’s the next bachelor, I’m out. I’m barely watching Des & won’t be able to stomach ANY of the final 4 as the lead. I can find better things to do like clean, read or better yet get a life. Show is beyond tired.
Comment: Guess I spoke to soon. Drew now out to a commanding lead with 5 “He’s gay” references. This will not be a photo finish.
I remember from earlier teasers that there is a scene where James is crying to Desiree that one of the guys hit him. They also showed a teaser where it looked like one guy rose up out of a chair and punched another guy. I thought it was Drew. The last time we see James before the rose ceremony James leaves the group and walks down a hallway. Drew follows him shortly thereafter. James is gone now, and we never saw that punch out or the aftermath where he cried to Des. They sure hyped that a lot to never show it. Are they hoping we will forget about it? Since they are now grooming Drew to be the next Bachelor, maybe they don’t want him tarnished by this attack scene?
All in all, I like Des’ guys, but it does seem that this group insists on having a scapegoat. Neither Ben nor James seemed to be villains, at least not on the order of a Bentley or sparkly Tiarra. Michael G has taken too many performance enhancing drugs. I know he is a prosecutor, but he has been overly aggressive from the beginning. He still has no discernible connection with Des. He’s too focused on other guys. I like Chris, Brooks, Zach and Drew. If you are correct about the final four, she chose well. It will be interesting to see what happens with Drew.
Whatever the case, I hope Chris or Drew will be the next Bachelor. Jef with one f has no appeal.
Comment: That James crying to Desiree talking about someone punching him in the face was from Monday night’s sit down with her, after the guys left at the after party. For whatever reason, they decided not to show it.
I’ve been watching the Bachelor / Bachelorette from the beginning (and reading your column since it started – way before it was a spoiler site)… well, with the exception of Jake’s season, which I just couldn’t stomach; that guy annoyed the crap out of me! It’s a guilty pleasure, and way to “disengage the brain” for 2 hours a week. Complete and total useless fluff makes for a nice escape from real life drama and stressors. Anyhow, for all of these years I’ve been a silent lurker on your site… sneaking in to enjoy your snark and exiting without leaving a footprint. I’ve never commented or written, because, well honestly, I just didn’t have anything compelling enough to share or stupid enough to ask. (Except, maybe, why the driveway is always wet when the contestants exit the limos… LOL, just kidding. Don’t have an aneurysm.) That said, for reasons unknown I feel the need to jump into this discussion about whether or not Des’s season is the worst in the history of the franchise. I think that everyone is forgetting how painfully dull Jen Schefft’s season was. She was cute on Andrew’s season, but a total dud as the lead. She had ZERO chemistry with any of the guys, and it was obvious from night one all the way through the season. Watching her season was like watching paint dry… only slightly more boring. I would probably put “Prince” Lorenzo, Dr. Travis, and Jesse Palmer’s seasons below this one as well. I can’t for the life of me remember a character from any of those seasons, with the exception of the crazy “don’t you want reproduction?” lady eliminated on night #1 of Travis’s season, and the final two girl who barfed on the way to the final rose ceremony on Jesse’s season. I watched each of those seasons all the way through thinking, “it has to get better, right? I mean, it can’t get any worse…” At least Des has a personality, and actually seems to be attracted to some of the guys. Not a great season, but not the worst either, in my humble opinion.
Comment: Yes, Jen’s season was awful. And at the time, I remember being very interested in her season because up until that point, she was a personal favorite of mine. Then her season aired, and all the air came out of my balloon. Literally and figuratively. She. Was. Awful. If I remember correctly, she NEVER used tongue kissing any of her guys.
I also remember being told that many of the guys from her season didn’t like her, didn’t care that they got eliminated, and thought she was a giant bitch during filming and they could tell she wasn’t into them.
Is Desiree’s season the worst? I don’t think so. But since it’s the most recent, it’s easy for people to say.
I think you can add me to the long list of people that think Brooks has a gay vibe about himself. First I thought maybe he’s just a straight guy who’s very much in touch with his feminine side. But after seeing these pictures of him I thought “Hm….that doesn’t look very straight to me”. You mentioned that other guys’ presence there was questionable, but for some reason I don’t see it. I see it more with Brooks.
I don’t know… maybe he’s bi and loves girls just as much as he loves guys.
What do you think?
Comment: Yikes. Don’t think I’ve seen any of those pictures before. Definitely doesn’t do anything to help his cause, but hey, at least he’s pulled into a tie for 2nd place with Sitges as the “most gay things about the Bachelorette” this season. Congrats Brooks!
Like I said earlier, I can’t believe the show is casting gay men to be on a show looking for a wife. So either they completely fooled the producers, or, he’s not gay. I have no idea.