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The “Women Tell All” Recap Including Some “Reader Emails”

Whew. Only six days away. Six days away from this finally being over. A culmination of four months of having to wait to be vindicated. Sure, there are people that are hoping the spoiler is wrong like it was last season, but c’mon, really? You really think it is? Interesting. Ok, well then I guess you’ll get your answer in six days. I’m not the least bit worried, and haven’t been since I gave you all the spoilers back on November 20th. For the last couple weeks I’ve been focusing on Andi’s season. I’ve started to put together the guy’s profiles. Right now I have 12 guys, a couple of which filmed their intro videos over the weekend and even yesterday. Of course, zero other websites are reporting anything on Andi’s season because they don’t have anything. Kinda the way it works. I release it, then they take my info. Some credit, some don’t. I will release the first 5 guys a week from today in next week’s column. I’m pretty sure filming starts next Tuesday night the 11th. If not, then it’s the 12th. No later than that though. Until then, I guess I have to wait out 6 days for my perfect game to be complete. Right now, I’ve gone through 8 with 11 strikeouts. 24 up, 24 down. I’ve got the bottom three in the order coming up next Monday. Will be the three easiest outs so far. Can’t wait.

Speaking of Andi, I mean I guess there are still people out there who don’t want to believe she’s the “Bachelorette” because ABC hasn’t officially announced it. But what more proof do you need? I gave it to you on February 20th, the day before they filmed the “Women Tell All.” Then E! Online ran this story 5 days later (of course not referencing me since they’re in bed with ABC). Then TMZ had their “exclusive” which they ran two days after E! and 7 days after I reported it. Great journalism. Then yesterday, WSBTV in Atlanta reported that they spoke to the District Attorney’s office who confirmed Andi has taken a 3 month leave of absence. Just don’t be mistaken by the Atlanta story that they’ll take her back in a heartbeat. She’s not even two years out of law school. It’s not like she was the lead prosecutor on high profile cases. She’s easily expendable. It’s why she was allowed to leave for the “Bachelor,” was she’s allowed to leave again for 3 months to do “Bachelorette,” not to mention all the appearances she’ll have to do once the “Bachelorette” begins airing. She got what she wanted, she wanted to be the “Bachelorette” all along, and now she’s gonna ride it as far as she can.

In case you didn’t see on Instagram Friday, and then told by WetPaint, Renee is engaged. A guy she’s known since she was young, first guy she kissed, she reconnected when she’d gotten back from filming, and he proposed to her the weekend after she taped last night’s WTA. Ummmm, ok. She still has not made a public comment about it, unless of course she’s the source that gave the story to WetPaint, which is highly possible. I mean, the only people who would know details of her engagement are her and her close friends, right? So either Renee approved of one of her friends running to a news outlet to spill the details of her engagement, or, a friend did it on her own and Renee can’t be too happy about it. Regardless, she’s engaged to some guy whose name we don’t know yet, and they moved to Seattle this past weekend.

Lucy teased last week that she had a surprise for everyone after the WTA aired. She didn’t disappoint as she posted this on Twitter once the show was over last night:

Good stuff. Very funny and very accurate. She sure can play that ukulele. Naked.

What’s a Tuesday morning without Chris Harrison taking more shots at Juan Pablo? It’s becoming comical at this point how much he realizes they overhyped this season and failed miserably. Remember all the tweets back during filming and even once the season was over of how great this was gonna be, and the girls LOVED Juan Pablo, and Juan Pablo was falling in love? Yeah. All bullsh** and just hype. We’ll start hearing the same stuff come next week once Andi’s season gets underway and it’ll fall of deaf ears.

By the way, Renee, Chelsie, Kelly, and Sharleen will all be in attendance for the live ATFR next Monday night according to ABC’s press release. They’ve been doing this the past couple seasons by asking contestants to show up for the finale so they can offer their opinions during the show. Remember, the first two hours are what was taped in St. Lucia back in November, but coming in and out of commercial break, Chris Harrison will be walking around the audience asking questions, taking polls, and trying to get people to think something happens that doesn’t. Last season of course they ran with the Brooks angle all show since they knew the spoiler was wrong and they played it up. Well done. Ain’t happening this year. There’s only so much they can do.

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  1. shirleyu

    March 4, 2014 at 10:56 AM

    JP is so frustrating. There seems to be no real conversation with him. Most people have more depth to them…even in talking to just a person than JP does. I’m guessing Kat didn’t know Andi was picked as The Bachelorette as she seemed to be auditioning last night. Ha! Sharleen talks in riddles. It’s clear she liked to make out with him but there was nothing else there, she knew it. She stayed as long as she wanted to. She totally didn’t answer truthfully about what she meant when she said she wished she was dumber. This season has been a train wreck. Sean and Catherine? I have such mixed emotions about them. I liked them. I think Sean is goofy and I think she is too. I think that is why she won his heart. In reality AshLee, serious organizer, never had a chance with him. I wish she would stop throwing digs at him on twitter. Get over it. But they need to leave us now. Only pull them out every once and a while. Did we need to see them on last nights show? No, but I think that was ABC’s way of trying to deflect from JP. I don’t think they actually work. Follow them on twitter, they just play and travel. I love Sean’s sister, Shay. She is beautiful, smart, an extremely hard worker but I would say Catherine is not her favorite. Going back to the very beginning of her blog. Shay is a gusher. You know when she likes someone or something. There have been plenty of Sean’s girlfriends that she gushed all over. But not Catherine. She has mentioned her a couple of times more recently but not big gushes, just statements and she calls her C. But so what? I think Catherine is very cute. She looks very happy. I hope they are. But I don’t think I could be around her a whole lot in real life. Pretty sure I wouldn’t care for her very much. Thanks for all you do Steve!!!

  2. mush

    March 4, 2014 at 11:23 AM

    doesn’t it seem like renee went on the show to find love? she may be the only one .

  3. vessel

    March 4, 2014 at 11:45 AM

    No comments on Nora? 🙁

  4. angelfish

    March 4, 2014 at 12:06 PM

    I’m sure Nora is composing a post right now, how she knew Renee was engaged before all the other media outlets knew. And she probably knew as soon as Renee stepped out of the limo!! *LOL*

  5. vessel

    March 4, 2014 at 12:15 PM

    Hahahaha @angelfish. I sure hope so! Good stuff.

  6. tamara

    March 4, 2014 at 12:21 PM

    I cannot believe catherine said the “quick fireworks” comment on national t.v. dissing sean publically. That is really bad for their marriage.
    I thought juan pablo handled himself fairly well at wta. Yes hes self centered. But he is also right that honesty can hurt when he was less interested in one woman than another.

  7. angelfish

    March 4, 2014 at 12:49 PM

    I think goofy Catherine and goofy Sean (they kept telling us they were goofy!) were joking with each other. I kinda like them both, and while I don’t presume to “read between the lines” in most relationships, I think they look happy. They had over a year to break up if they weren’t solid, and they didn’t.
    Honestly, if my husband & I waited a year to consummate and then he was able to last hours, I’d be CERTAIN he hadn’t waited! *LOL*

  8. juliette

    March 4, 2014 at 1:02 PM

    The grammar email made me laugh! I am not a grammar Nazi by any means, but I thought I would just let you know the difference between “lets” and “let’s” since you use it a lot in your columns. LET’S focus on on grammar right now (let’s is the contraction for let us). She LETS the dog out (lets is the verb here). Sorry to be annoying! I just thought I would let you know. 🙂

  9. sumo

    March 4, 2014 at 1:20 PM

    Regarding Kelly’s supposed “Adams apple”
    She probably has a thyroid condition that gives her an enlarged thyroid or thyroid nodules (sometimes known as a goiter)
    Thyroid problems tend to make you either gain lots of weight or lose lots of weight. With how Kelly looks I assume the later.
    Poor girl!

  10. bigfatwoman

    March 4, 2014 at 2:09 PM

    Ugh ugh and more ugh to see Lunkhead and Gigglesnorts on last night’s WTA. Despite my disdain for these two famewhores, I’ve always thought Catherine to be naturally pretty and she photographs beautifully. But….she dumbed herself down (aside from when she utters a thought) with those bangs??? Yuck. Bad look. This pair really really needs to go away. I can’t stand the way Sean speaks, he comes across as such a caveman.

    As far as Juan Pablo on WTA, I thought the women went overboard in their bashing. The people that the women should be mad at are the suits at ABC who cast him. They knew exactly what they were getting themselves into with him.

    The women should also be mad at themselves. They signed up for this farce. What did they expect?

    Always fascinating to see the shroud of holiness that has enveloped Sharleen for no apparent reason other than she uses complete sentences and didn’t act giddy or desperate. Bravo to her, but let’s not get carried away fawning over a normal girl with an unusual career.

  11. rob22

    March 4, 2014 at 2:33 PM

    I thought it quite humorous that Lucy, the naked girl, was lecturing JP-Blow on not being serious about the girls. She should have stayed in character and pulled a Sharon Stone/Basic Instinct causing the edit to have to blur out the image. The holier than thou attitude didn’t fit her at all.

  12. Athena

    March 4, 2014 at 3:22 PM

    I thought it was interesting that it was Andi, Sharleen, and Renee, the three girls who lasted the longest, and who he obviously liked more than the others, who came to his defense the most in terms of saying that he did try to get to know them. Granted, given that two of the three chose to leave, obviously they didn’t see the long-term potential any more than he apparently did, but they didn’t try to throw him under the bus like the other women did.

    I also ended up wondering just how accurate the “no one liked Nikki” info that Steve was given and shared with us all season (until this column in which he seems to backtrack a little based on the Team-Nikki responses shared last night on the show). I tend to think what he wrote this week about there being “cliques” amongst the women is probably more accurate than what he was saying previously. Since I tend to mistrust all good/all bad kind of stereotyping of people, I was glad to see a more balanced portrayal of who likes who.

  13. rollingeyes

    March 4, 2014 at 3:58 PM

    About the girl who looked at the guy’s browser history…

    1) You borrowed his laptop, probably unexpectedly, and expected that he should have deleted his browser history? Why should he be ashamed of his browser history, especially if he isn’t expecting anyone to go snooping into it?

    2) Nothing indicated to me that he has any kind of addiction. So what he looked at a dozen sites recently? Maybe the first eleven didn’t have anything of interest to him, and it was the twelfth one that finally got him going.

    3) He is in his 20’s right? He is a man, right? So, it is porn! So what? As long as the sites weren’t for certain kinds of porn (kids, animals, etc) then who the hell cares? Quit being a prude. Who knows, maybe you’d enjoy it too if you tried it.

  14. airwrecka

    March 4, 2014 at 4:32 PM

    I am having a really tough time with the idea that despite the girls not liking JP and questioning his motives, they still want him to end up with someone they now seem to consider a friend. They have all watched the way he acted and seen how hypocritical and disinterested he was. He is clearly not ready for a relationship and yet they were all still acting like the girl he chooses is getting some sort of prize.

    I am also fairly shocked to read on other blogs how classy/sophisticated everyone found Sharleen. I was honestly embarrassed for her. She acted like a teenager in heat. Her tongue was in JPs mouth more then it was in her own! Just because she is an opera singer does not mean she was far off the stereotypical type this show looks for. She came off very immature and not ready for commitment, which is probably the reason JP was so drawn to her. She was an easy out – not ready for a real relationship and being more physical with him then emotional/intellectual. The second she tried to speak he was easily able to distract her with his latin lips and chiseled abs – she let it happen every time.

    I know its not a popular opinion at this time, but I like Andy for the next Bachelorette. Unlike other sappy leads, I don’t think we will be getting a sob story and I know she will not be putting up with any BS. The way she came off in the last few episodes does not necessarily make me think she is truly looking for love, but it will be nice seeing a strong character at the reigns. She may even give ABC a tough time since she seems smart and not easily manipulated.

  15. Athena

    March 4, 2014 at 5:05 PM

    About the browser-history checker – first off, I think it’s a little inappropriate to go poking around on someone else’s laptop on a first date just because you can. But, porn addiction is real. There’s too much here we don’t know – ie: is this an occasional way for him to get off or is it a daily, hourly obsession. B I G difference. Kudos to Steve for recognizing that some people DO have a problem.

  16. rob22

    March 4, 2014 at 6:56 PM

    On the guy with multiple porn sites. Yes, guys look at porn. And no, you don’t want a serious relationship with a guy who’s got multiple porn sites in his browser history. Porn can and often does become an addiction and a distraction from a real relationship. It’s a zero sum game. Every moment he spends on porn is energy, sexual and otherwise, that he could be putting towards his girlfriend. So, to me, multiple porn sites imply a possible, even likely addiction. It’s common and I don’t judge the guy, but there is no reason to get involved in that anymore than someone should get involved with a guy who smokes marijuana or likes to drink a little to much. You don’t need a relationship with any addiction problems…. And no, you won’t fix him. He’ll hopefully get help at some point, but let him be someone else’s fixer upper.

  17. kasey31

    March 4, 2014 at 8:28 PM

    Athena- I totally agree with everything you said about the girls’ view on Nikki. I do think she was well liked by more than a few of the girls. I think her friends just happened to be eliminated earlier on, leaving more girls that favored Clare in the later episodes.

    Personally, I liked Nikki from everything I saw. She was a bit snarky, but funny, smart, polite, witty, confident without coming across as conceited, and she seemed pretty genuine to me. I thought she handled herself extremely well with JP’s daughter and family, especially Carla- how nerve racking! I also saw a very caring side to her when she found out her friend was gone. She doesn’t come across to me as only in it for herself, like Courtney Robertson did.

    If things happened behind-the-scenes that I’m unaware of, then so be it. But from what they’ve shown of Nikki, I find her much more pleasant and tolerable than Clare. Clare is a basket case.

    Airwtecka- You’re not alone, I’m very happy to know they chose Andi as the next Bachelorette. She is the whole package, and what she said during her limo exit had me cheering inside for all women who have ever felt unappreciated by a man, or been in a relationship with someone who takes no interest in you.

    That being said, and I KNOW I’m in the minority, a huge part of me felt empathy for JP last night. I am still trying to understand what it is about him that makes me feel so badly for him, but I can’t help it, I just do. You could see in his eyes how disappointed he is that most of America hates him.

  18. Athena

    March 4, 2014 at 9:53 PM

    kasey31, about JP – I feel for him too. He seems so clueless, but basically without guile. I can see how he didn’t “play the game” well with many of the women, and he completely blew it with the “more pervert” debacle, but I do think he’s got a basically good heart, he does love and is involved with his daughter in a genuine way, and just got in over his head in some ways while being too much of a player in others. As Steve says, he’s got no filter, which if you’re on tv blabbing for hours at a time in front of cameras on the show, in all the post-interviews, and I guess on Twitter too, is going to lead to some bizarre and inconsistent remarks. An interesting, hardly ideal mix of qualities, but not detestable.

    Andi, on the other hand, will handle herself well. She’s smart, poised, and articulate. She kind of reminds me of Deanna in that she’s a strong woman who won’t hesitate to stick up for herself and demand that the men treat her with respect. (Might she be just a tad bit spoiled? …Just a guess, and hard to separate from simply being assertive.)

  19. Grace80

    March 4, 2014 at 10:31 PM

    Maybe this has been brought up already, but I think Molly is Kelly’s therapy dog. Has any other contestant been allowed an animal on set? Ever? There seems to be something going on, and though it’s not important, I’m still curious.

  20. kasey31

    March 4, 2014 at 11:54 PM

    Yes, Athena, that’s it. I find him to have a pretty genuine, good heart, too. I never thought he was acting when he became emotional sending some women home- I think he *wished* he felt something he didn’t. He was much more transparent in his ways as a player, most bachelors at least try to hide it and play the part well.
    Was he ignorant? Yes. Clueless? Absolutely, but I just don’t see malicious intent. Just a horrible casting decision by ABC.

  21. duckquack

    March 5, 2014 at 1:19 AM

    Andi talking about him not knowing her religion, what was she going to do convert to a catholic, or did she have it in her mind he would convert to judaism?……Andi was enamored by him until she found out he had another overnight, that’s where she went berserk.
    i think Juan was on the show to find a wife, and zeroed in on the one’s he wanted, and ignored the one’s he could not see himself with…which is the way it should be, even Harrison said it early on Juan had trouble with the show process.

    he may not pick anyone, much like Brad, but he will be raked over the coals just like Brad was…where in fact Brad done the girls all a favor, but many people had a problem with his process and crucified him.
    Look what DeAnna done, zeroed in on Graham and the rest were treated not so nice, when Graham left she chose for the sake of choosing…she couldn’t not choose after blaming Brad forever, so she picked the one that will be easiest to dump…Jason was the F2 by default.

    i wonder how many hours the producers drove in a circle with Andi and how many drinks did she have before they got the exact words they wanted out of her….she still drinking and tweeting, and the others have joined in, and language is the easiest they could find to bash him with..
    bit cheap wouldn’t you say?….you got your wishes fulfilled a Latino bachelor..

    Sean Lowe you are a hypocrite you said you had no regrets, why the sudden change of mind? ….still drinking producers koolaid and eagerly waiting by the phone to be called for another appearance….then again Catherine is not a prize naked, she has no waistline, size 10 feet, and 40dd boobes..she prides herself on fashion and chose the most ill fitting wedding gown for her body type.
    Ashley Hebert rocked her gown, but Ashely has a body that Cat can only dream off….stop drinking koolaid and you might last longer firecracker.

  22. Dianne

    March 5, 2014 at 8:19 AM

    Grace 80. Kelly’s dog, Molly, was allowed to participate in the show because Kelly didn’t want to have to leave her for any length of time to do the filming. Soooo..the producers thought it would be an interesting “twist”, and therefore allowed Molly to accompany Kelly. True story.

  23. karynr

    March 5, 2014 at 8:27 AM

    duckquack, I may find Sean and Catherine mildly annoying, but is it necessary to make fun of someone’s natural feet and boobs? She’s a beautiful woman and seems nice. That was mean. Wouldn’t you want to know someone’s religion if you dated them more then a couple times? Of course, we are talking about The Bach, but still….. Especially if you might be raising kids together some day. That’s pretty important.

    I agree with the Andi supporters. She seems somewhat sharp and, hopefully, she’ll make some wise decisions. Though, the producers and alcohol wreak havoc on thinking rationally on this show, at times. Plus, I want more Hy! Hometowns just might be interesting.

    I am so ready for this season to be over. JP is probably pretty nice, but just another clueless player.

    I also agree about Nikki. I actually liked her. I don’t know why she was given the b***h edit, or why RS talks about her that way. I don’t think multiple women would be friends with her if she was that bad. Sparkle and Courtney deserved the edit……..Nikki didn’t seem like she did. I found her to be fairly bright. When it comes to matters of the heart, mixed with alcohol and producer interference/Bach bubble, who knows what will happen. I have no doubt her women friends who know JP can’t wait for the breakup. When a friend is dating someone you don’t like, sometimes you just have to keep your mouth shut!

    Clare is the one who drove me crazy. I find her to be really annoying.

  24. jacey

    March 5, 2014 at 8:34 AM

    1st, I just have to say I love Lucy!! She’s stark [naked] raving mad, and I totally dig that about her.

    Caught WTA last night. Muted the C&S crap since FF wasn’t available and busied myself on the laptop to pass the time. Did I see Ms. Piggy at some point???

    Sharleen — Her revelation regarding in-depth conversations she had with JP came as no surprise. He was into her, and he respected her, so he got to know her. Btw… Girl, please! Not thinking so much doesn’t equate with being “dumber.” You said what you said, and you meant what you said, so own it! You’re not the 1st chick to make out with a vacuous hot guy because his opening his mouth ruins the magic, and you won’t be the last.

    Renee — That look on her face for much of the program said [to me] it was dawning on her that JP was never that into her. I think he appreciates her as a person, but mentally place her solidly in the friend zone (with the exception of the pity make outs). Bonus for her, though. Her fiancé appears to be better — everything! Yay!

    Kelly — Please, please, powers that be. Find some way to use this girl. She’s freaking awesome. Love the dead pan quips and one-liners.

    Andi — She got the part. Now she can quit sipping the koolaide. I see some independence but I also hear quite a bit of the old company line when she speaks. I’m thinking she’s about looking for love as much as Congress is looking for compromise. I say hurrah. She should prime and polish that turd for whatever it will yield, but steer clear of DWTS.

    JP — Still got that twinkle for Sharleen — and darned if she didn’t appear to have *somethin* for him, too. Not talking about her defense of him. That was the right thing to do. I sensed an undercurrent. The man’s stock went up w/ me for a min. Then I got to thinkin’. Where was the language barrier with Shareen? He was concerned about his kid hearing about the ocean and him kissing 27 girls, but hot tub, boat, other bodies of water, and fantasy suite make-outs are ok. And he darn-well should have been keenly aware of the significance of meeting the families during hometown visits, and indeed his comments and questions to the families belies his current feigned ignorance regarding the significance. Cassandra was right. JP knew he wasn’t that into Renee and should not have gone to meet her son. That situation is not on par with the Miami/Nikki/family thing, and he knows it. Then there’s Clare. Putting his buyer’s remorse off on her was dickish — period. He doesn’t respect her for initiating that ocean dip. He only kept her around (subsequently) because eliminating her at that point would have reflected badly on him. However; 1st one’s on him. 2nd (fantasy suite) is on her. “Fool me once…” He’d have respected her had she said “no.” Instead she wound up being used like so much toilet paper (also as a weapon to bring Andi down a peg) then [ ultimately] discarded. She’s in her 30’s. Grow up, already! The 22 y/o has more common sense.

  25. amyrn22

    March 5, 2014 at 8:39 AM

    @bigfatwoman hahahah I’m with you as always. I wish there was the ability to “like” people’s comments on this board or comment directly to their comments. If I have to see Lunkhead and Gigglesnorts one more time, I’m gonna throw up. The bangs look horrible. She tries to pretend like she’s this fashionista, but I remember her style being awful on the show…often times she was just wearing plain shorts and a t-shirt– nothing wrong with that style, but all of a sudden, she wins the Bachelor and now she acts like she’s a style icon. I felt bad for JP on the WTA too, even though I’m not a fan of him. I thought it was pathetic how they all bashed him and didn’t give him more than 10 minutes total on screen to defend himself. The more I watched last night, the more I realized that he just wasn’t into THOSE girls. Maybe it wasn’t so much that he wasn’t looking for something, but instead, that he didn’t find it in them. I think the only one he really liked was Sharleen and she didn’t have one bad thing to say about him. Why should the guy pretend like he’s interested in all these girls when he isn’t? He didn’t pull the whole “i’m so in love with 3 women, i don’t know how i’ll ever choose” crap that Sean did. Even the day that Sean proposed, he was saying that he loved Lindsay too. For once, we didn’t have a “I want to find love that’s gonna last a lifetime and a million lifetimes” lead. This guy probably thought it would be good for his career, he’d make some money, get to travel, plus hey, maybe he’ll find someone he wants to spend his life with…. turned out, none of them compared to his ex in his eyes, so he had a hard time pretending that they did.

    Again, don’t get me wrong… I have a lot of issues with JP and he is not my favorite person, and I usually don’t defend him. I just got a little different perspective after watching last night, a bunch of whiny girls complaining “he didn’t like me”.

    One more thing…I thought it was so annoying how in the middle of a conversation about something completely different, Kelly brought up the gay comment and started crying. It literally came out of NOWHERE. I liked his answer– “I’ll talk to you about it after the show for as long as you want, but there’s a ton of other stuff to get to and we’ll never get off that subject.” I know the producers made her do that, but it was so stupid and annoying how she interrupted his conversation with someone else about something else and brought that up. I hate his pervert comment more than anything (my gay uncle is my best friend) but give it up already…. it’s over. no need to re-hash it again and again in the middle of the WTA.

  26. amyrn22

    March 5, 2014 at 9:04 AM

    YOU GUYS!! Nora is back!! hahaha she is under the name “kimholms” and she commented several times under Steve’s video chat from last week. She says her “Nora” character got kicked off so she created a new account, Kim Holms. After reading a few of her new comments, I’m starting to think it might be a farse…. it’s so far fetched and ridiculous that it may just be someone joking around to rile us up. I think she even said something like the winners “come to her in a vision” basically saying she’s like a psychic or something. hahaha check it out.

  27. karynr

    March 5, 2014 at 9:32 AM

    JP and Sharleen should probably meet-up sometime in the future to get that mutual lust out of their systems!

  28. jazzmine

    March 5, 2014 at 12:43 PM

    Thought the bashing went a little overboard but that’s all ABC has to offer …
    Hated the muppets…
    Suits need to trot out Caveman and Giggles aka Sean and Catherine to prove a success….
    My husband’s fireworks were fast, too, on our wedding night as we lived across the country from each other before the marriage…
    Sharleen was gracious and respectful …
    And Lucy’s video is very clever.

  29. serapa

    March 5, 2014 at 12:46 PM

    ok…my uncle is also gay and my grandmother couldn’t handle it and put my uncle in an orphanage in the 1950’s, so I am definitely pro gay rights.

    BUT…what JP said could have some merit…the kind of people that would go on a gay Bachelor, are not the gays that most of us know, love and respect.

    Having said that, I would not be against a gay bachelor…but they would have to be very careful in their casting. What if contestants became attracted to eachtother and we had relationships evolving from it? I just could not see it working in that kind of environment. The heterosexual bachelor is pretty sleazy as it is.

    Sure they’ve had marriages, but their success rate is like 5% if that. So that leave 80% of the horny cast ready to get it on with eachother (assuming that the other 15% actually have some values).

  30. Athena

    March 5, 2014 at 1:04 PM

    karynr, do you really think “once” would be enough? 🙂

  31. eleyezeeaye

    March 5, 2014 at 1:32 PM

    I personally LOVED Sharleen this season. I really don’t get all of her haters. She is beautiful (prettiest one on there if you ask me), intelligent, worldly and down to earth. I think I have a girl crush (more pervert). I for one did NOT feel bad for JP on the WTA. He seemed even more cocky and idiotic to me. My fiance and I did have a good time making up songs about him and laughing relentlessly over “ees okay” and “more pervert.”

  32. kasey31

    March 6, 2014 at 1:16 AM

    Amy, Serapa, great comments!
    I enjoy coming here to express how I felt watching the show, and hearing the feedback from everyone else.
    It’s refreshing to see that I wasn’t alone in feeling a little sorry for JP. Or being confused with Nikki’s edit.

    I also love just reading everyone else’s take away from the episode, even if their opinion differs from mine.
    We have some insightful posters on here, that’s for sure ; )

  33. karynr

    March 6, 2014 at 6:01 AM

    I think you’re right, Athena :). Those two probably need about 48 hours behind closed doors before she gets it all out of her system and moves on. I’ve never been big on FB type of relationships (and I don’t mean Facebook), but those two seem to fit that type of situation. I think she’s absolutely stunning. I still say she wondered onto the wrong show and they decided to keep her.

    As far as the “ees okay”, I agree with Jen Fase. Everytime he says “ees okay” to someone he’s really thinking f*** you. The guy either didn’t understand a lot of what the women were saying to him at the WTA, or he was, once again, tuning out because he didn’t care. He had a very vacant look in his eyes at times.

  34. karynr

    March 6, 2014 at 6:25 AM

    Jen Frase

  35. rob22

    March 6, 2014 at 9:04 AM

    It’s true, after the way Harrison, the show and the girls have thrown J-P-Blow under the bus, I’m starting to feel (a little) sorry for him. They pick the guy, for no obvious reason other than they had nobody else readily available (God forbid they think out of the box), he turns out to be a predictable disaster, then they pile on the guy when he’s down. Pretty pathetic.

    I even agree somewhat that his “gay / more pervert” comments were taken out of context & his ESL made his comments sound much worse. Remember, he was responding to a question about having a “Gay Bachelor” show. He used the word “more pervert” in reference to the issues about having 25, or so, gay men together in a house. Granted, he was stupid to even offer at that obvious trap question. There was no right answer he could have given. But, it’s not like he was out there spreadng hate toward “the gays”.

  36. kasey31

    March 6, 2014 at 7:38 PM

    Totally agree, Rob.
    As soon as the question was asked, he was in a no win situation.. Most English speaking Americans would fumble with that answer. While very poorly articulated, I *get* what he was trying to say.. and it’s not far off from what I think either.

    At the WTA, I think he answered Kelly perfectly.. “I’ll spend as much time with you after the show talking about this. This certainly isn’t the place.”

    I wish CH would have come to his defense a little more this season, but they all jumped on the “JP is the worst bachelor” band wagon, taking zero responsibility for their choosing him in the first place. I’d feel very betrayed if I were JP. I don’t blame him for feeling disappointed at all.

  37. kasey31

    March 6, 2014 at 7:39 PM

    I think he’s also the first bachelor to eat on TV and seem excited about the food! Haha. Just not “polished” enough for ABC’s liking.

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