Reality Steve

The Bachelorette 10 - Andi

Reader Email Reaction to How ABC Handled Monday Night’s Episode

Hey Reality Steve,

A few thoughts on the Eric and Andi’s argument. I totally understood what Eric was trying to convey to Andi, but I do believe he went about it the wrong way. He certainly could have used different words besides ‘Pokerface’ and ‘Actress’. I think most girls would be taken back by someone they were trying to get to know using those words.

I think Eric could have worded things differently and maybe thought more about the conversation he was going to have before it actually happened. I do think that Andi overreacted a little bit though and jumped right to being defensive, instead of trying to talk things out. In the end, it wasn’t a huge deal and I don’t think Eric was trying to be malicious, but things just didn’t go how he thought they might in the conversation.

I actually live in Draper, Utah and pass the point of the mountain where many people everyday are paragliding on my way to and from work. It’s a very sad situation that Eric passed away doing something fun and adventurous. And I agree that you have been very respectful about the whole situation! I think that says a lot about you.

Thanks for the blog, I look forward to it everytime you post!
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I am just going to jump straight to it…

I re-watched Andi’s conversation with Juan Pablo, then re-watched Eric’s conversation with Andi, because for some reason, I felt the need after watching for the first time last night to do so. I did not care at all for Juan Pablo. I’m pretty indifferent to Andi. I don’t love her, I don’t dislike her, I think she’s just typical Bachelorette. That being said, after watching the two back, I almost feel like she is a really defensive person who enjoys arguing (she does argue for a living). I’m not saying the guys didn’t have their faults either (they obviously don’t have the best selection of words to use, but what man really does?), but she seems to struggle to accept what someone has to say to her.

Here are some of the quotes from Eric that stood out to me, and my take on them:

– “From her end all I need is feedback” (I kind of get why he said this. In their conversations, to me, you see a lot of Eric opening up, and Eric talking about himself, but very little of Andi really making it a two way street.)

– “I feel like you’re not being the real Andi with me” (I think Eric is just saying what everyone knows about the show. It’s not very real. Some guys can go with it, some can’t. I think the fact that it was a very manufactured setting, where she is put in a position to be very unnatural really bothered him because to me, he seems like a super simple laid back guy.)

– “I came on this to meet a person, not a TV actress” (A similar perspective as the previous comment, he seems so laid back to me. The whole glamour part of it, the cocktail parties, the fancy dresses… I just don’t think that is what he wants in a woman and that’s what most of the time with her is.)

– “I see two different sides of Andi, I see poker face” (He does make a good point. Even when he confronted her about his feelings, she didn’t respond much. She used a lot of one word answers before just becoming full blown defensive. Obviously he struggles to be in a setting where she has to remain somewhat neutral and respectful of everybody.)

You know, I don’t think any part of what he was trying to say was meant to insult her. He was very simply trying to explain to her that he wants her in a more natural setting and he enjoys her more in that setting. Obviously he was naive to think he would always get that on this show, but I don’t think he was at all personally attacking her. At one point he even said, “I just want you to be comfortable with me” and her response was “I can’t sit here and pretend to be okay with that.” She didn’t really bother to go deeper with him and explore the feelings and why he is saying what he is saying, she just immediately went into defensive argumental mode and started talking about how exhausting this is, and how she has to keep all these guys happy, etc, etc. She sort of made the whole thing about her instead of actually trying to understand what is really on his mind, which to me, struck me as somewhat hypocritical of her since she was upset with Juan Pablo for not making an effort to really understand what had her so upset.

With Juan Pablo, she told him “I realized that I wasn’t in love with you, and I wasn’t going to be”. He responded as non-confrontational and understanding as anyone can be when being dumped, saying “If you don’t think it’s me then it’s okay, I am glad you told me. I cannot force you to feel something for me.” If we have to compare the two of them, I’m going to say Juan Pablo wins on taking the high road. He accepted that hey, this isn’t right for everybody, we probably aren’t right for each other, and I’m not going to fight you on this. With Juan Pablo she did the exact same thing as she did with Eric, she became super argumentative for no real good reason. She took it further with Juan Pablo, since she already had her mind made up that he wasn’t the guy for her, and just kept attacking him to say something more. He was confused, and I don’t blame him, because she just told him she wasn’t going to ever be in love with him. Why should he have put up this big fight to win her back? She kept pushing him, and I was confused as to what she was hoping to gain from it. Comment: I disagree with the Juan Pablo taking the high road. I don’t think he did because he was being a better person. I just don’t think he cared about her or the show and just doesn’t relate to a lot of things, so “esss ok” and moving on quickly was his crutch.

Back to Eric… he seemed like a super guy who I think made a mistake going on that show. It wasn’t a good setting for him. He obviously had no interest in the cocktail parties, and the suits and fancy dresses, and the vibe that it is largely staged for entertainment (I’ve seen them film a date, it’s totally unnatural). I don’t think she deserves to be attacked, but I’m not on board with how she handled him. I do think she enjoys a good verbal battle. The interview afterward was just awkward to watch. I didn’t see a reason for it. She barely knew him. I think they could have better used the time by maybe getting some videos of him or maybe get his family involved, and do a little tribute to the life he did live. In the end, if we separate the departure from his life and his death, then Andi’s comments about it were really kinda unnecessary. They should have just celebrated his life in some way.

Just my opinion!
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Dear Reality Steve,

I was not surprised about how the show handled Eric’s death. However, the whole interview segment with Andi after Eric’s departure left me ashamed. I do believe the show did a great job portraying Eric throughout the season, but that final interview segment with Andi was a travesty. Instead of celebrating Eric’s life and expressing sincere condolences the show chose to give Andi a platform to explain her over the top reaction to Eric. The time and place for that interview would have been at the men tell all, not in the final minutes of Eric’s run on the show. Both Andi and Chris Harrison came off as insincere and callous. Chris Harrison’s came off as an insincere television host reading off of a teleprompter, while Andi came off as cold, callous, and someone who didn’t understand what this great man’s death really means.

I am not going to pretend that I understand Eric on some deep level because I only know him from watching The Bachelorette, but it does not take a wise person to understand that this was a special man who would have left a large and long lasting mark on this world had he gotten the time to do so. Eric’s death is a tragedy not only for him and his family, but for all of the people he would have helped. It seems insensitive to interview Andi about her hurt feelings instead of showing a montage celebrating Eric’s life. I was happy that the producers frequently showed Eric talking about how much he loved his family, but they really dropped the ball with that uncomfortable interview segment with Andi. I understand that Andi only knew Eric for a few weeks, but you would think that him not being at the men tell all would be the last thing on her mind. How about the fact that this guy doesn’t get to grow old, have kids of his own, complete his around the world journey, and live the life he deserved. I really hope the show rectifies this ill placed segment with a donation to the foundation his family has established, but time will tell.

Comment: I don’t what the problem is with Andi saying that she wishes he could be at the “Men Tell All.” I think people are reading too much into that comment. I don’t think it’s, “Welp, guess he won’t be there.” I think it’s more of, “I really wish he were still here and it’d be great to see him.”

Producers did go to Eric’s funeral and so did some contestants.
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Hi Steve,

I was very turned off by how the show handled Eric’s exit. It was tabloidly and sensationalist. I know you can’t please everybody and I know they were in a horrible spot, but when you’re dealing with death — especially the sudden death of a young person — you should always err on the side of caution and show that person in as positive a light as possible. They should have not aired his fight with Andy, and cut immediately to Chris Harrison saying that Eric left that night after he and Andi mutually agreed that it wouldn’t work. After that they should have tried to get his family and/or friends, or at the very least done some type of photo tribute. The Andi interview made it all about her and her reaction.

Speaking of Andi, though, I think last night did her a disservice as well. Showing that fight didn’t do her any favors and probably made her feel even more guilty than she already did.

I wish the show could have shown the level of love and sensitivity toward Eric that they showed toward Gia, who chose to take her own life. They certainly weren’t showing her fighting with Wes during any tribute scenes.

Comment: I don’t think you can compare Gia’s death to Eric’s. Unfair and in the context of this show and what aired last night, completely different.
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I have a lot of different thoughts with how the Bachelorette handled Eric’s story. Yes, they could of not have shown any of the fight and could of had Chris on to explain what had happened. But at the same time, this is a TV show that likes drama (as do the rest of us). I watch this show for the drama- even though there normally isn’t any- and I think that’s why they showed it. They never have had anyone to call out the main person for being fake and an actor. And I will admit, those 5 minutes were good TV. I will admit that I enjoyed his spat with Andi because I agreed 100%. I liked that they didn’t show the rose ceremony because it totally would of taken away from Eric leaving and it would of been like erasing his exit for someone else to exit. What I didn’t like was that they had Andi with Chris to talk about Eric, as if to make it all about Andi once again. Why not a family member? If they didn’t want to be on it, why not Chris saying a few words with a montage of videos and pictures? We didn’t need to hear Andi’s thoughts on how it went down and everything else because for once it wasn’t about HER. It was nice to see her cry because it proved that it actually did upset her and she wasn’t a robot, but it was almost awkward because she was crying about someone she blew up on. They will probably embarrassed tears. I just think that in order to pay tribute to him, they should of had something about HIS life to show, not Andi talking about how the fight affected her and blah blah blah. I eventually tuned her out because I found her thoughts on everything but his death to be kind of rude and not the place for it.

Comment: I know the show has never had a death of a contestant before of a season that was just filmed, but when has a parent or family member ever been on this show in the aftermath of something? That’s just not gonna happen I don’t think.
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Hi Steve,

I think you have handled the situation with Eric passing with a lot of class and consideration. I can see why his sister thanked you. In regards to the show, I think they handled it well. Kind of in a self absorbed sort of way, but still well. I like how they took the time reserved for the rose ceremony and used it to talk about Eric. The reason I say it was in a self absorbed sort of way is that they took the time to talk about Eric from Andi’s point of view. Someone who knew him for two weeks. It would have been more meaningful if they had flown a family member or made a pre recorded collage about his life with his family’s input BUT I realize it’s still a show, and a show about Andi soooooo I guess they did the best they could/wanted to.

I do think Andi completely over reacted and if Eric was a guy she was more into, she would have forgiven him and not sent him home that night. So I think it was just a case of her not liking the guy enough and maybe he hit a preexisting sensitive spot.

If I were Andi I couldn’t help but always think that if only I had kept him around and he was in the final four, than maybe he would still be alive. I hope she doesn’t think that because it’s unfair to herself, but man, I know I would be tormented by that thought.

My heart goes out to Eric’s family and a bit to Andi too.

Thanks for what you do. I really enjoy your tidbits and spoilers. Only reason I watch the show.

Comment: My guess is that definitely is something that Andi has probably thought about a lot. But like you said, that’s unfair to herself. You can play the “what if” game all night long in this situation, but you’ll drive yourself crazy doing it.
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I don’t hate the way ABC handled things but one thing that I have been waiting for that I am surprised/not so surprised because they always haven’t been that classy with dealing with situations is that they didn’t do much for his memory. They said they were dedicating this season to him and I was always expecting before, after, or just instead of the blooper real or ANYTHING; especially after his last episode to do a “In memory of….” with a picture. I felt like it was missing if they were going to be dedicating the season to him. Just my thought.

Thanks for all your spoilers and it has been awesome to see how you have respected the situation.

Comment: They did the picture and “In Memory Of…” in the first :45 seconds of the season. Maybe we’ll get it again, maybe we won’t. But they did do it.
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Hi Steve,

I thought that the show handled Eric’s departure fine. Eric was shown as a guy who spoke his mind. There is nothing wrong with that. I thought he was an honest guy who was there for the right reasons. It is too bad that he and Andi didn’t have more of a connection. Also,I am okay with them showing no rose ceremony because who left wasn’t important. Eric’s exit was the most interesting part of the show. The talk between Andi and Chris about Eric was nice.
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Okay here’s my take on the whole Eric thing, firstly, I liked that ABC decided to show Eric’s journey on the show from beginning to end, whether it was good or bad, because I think that’s what he would have wanted.

As far as his conversation with Andi went, I think she is under a lot of stress and pressure as the lead. After the disaster of last season, no one could blame her for being careful or wanting to be well-liked. That being said, I think it results in a tendency for her to be a bit dramatic. For example, when Craig got drunk and suddenly NO ONE is there for the right reasons.

I think this overreaction and defensiveness spilled into last night’s confrontation with Eric. Andi told Eric that he was not being open with her, which based on the stories he shared is just not valid. The real problem here is that they were not connecting. I think they both wanted to, but it just wasn’t there. Eric was trying to have a conversation with her where he says “Hey I am being open, but I feel some stiffness in our relationship. We had a great first date, and I get that you have to be diplomatic, but if there is something between us you shouldn’t be that way with me.” To Eric this was probably a real attempt at a relationship and he wanted a real girlfriend, not someone who is ‘acting’. People can say whatever they want, but Andi HAS to act on this show and to say she is not is ridiculous. We will never know the motives behind his conversation but it seems to me that he wanted to defend his openness and get a better gauge if this was going somewhere. In my opinion, she was defensive and overreacted and I thought Eric was extremely level-headed. Should he have stopped saying ‘acting’ when he realized it was upsetting her? Sure. Either way, both people handled it the way they did and I don’t have a problem with that.

I do have a problem with the last 5 minutes of the show. The way the guys on this show have been, I am sure that there were some negative things said by the other fellas or maybe even Andi about Eric or his departure. I think ABC made the right call not showing that as it would have been extremely insensitive to his family and friends as well as bring up guilty feelings for the guys who said anything negative. My issue lies in what they did instead. We just saw Andi and him breaking up, and now we are supposed to turn around and care how she feels about his exit that occurred months ago given this guy is no longer alive? I would much rather have seen whatever footage they could show of him having fun on dates, with the other guys, maybe even some of the guys he was close to talking about his appreciation of life. I guess as I am writing this I can understand the fear of some backlash at Andi and wanting to give her the chance to address it, but I think we should save her breakdown of what happened for the Men Tell All, not the “goodbye Eric” segment. Of course Andi should comment, but it almost sounded like she was still defending her position. It was also too much about her feelings: they only dated sporadically for a month. I realize the show is about her journey to find love, but this is clearly an instance where you depart from that standard.

Curious to see what everyone else thinks! Love your column/recaps/info Steve.
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First time emailer, blog devotee for the last couple of years. Funny enough I didn’t like it at first and was annoyed to come across spoilers. But since I watch the show because of the trainwreck potential, I quickly grew to love the blog.

Anyway, you asked readers what they thought of how they handled the Eric thing. Based on your take of the situation, we are on the same page.

The show’s producers have a mandate to create interest and drama. Without having access to the hours and hours of film at their disposal, we don’t know what other threads/story lines they could have used. And based on that stupid Cody thing, the pickings could have been slim.

More to the point, like it or not that conversation with Eric was the catalyst for Andi’s meltdown. It is what it is, and I can’t imagine how they could have edited around that or cut it out. There would have been an odd disconnect to the episode.

I also don’t think it was a particularly negative portrayal of either of them. Did I think she overreacted? Yeah, but I also got a sense that the process is more tiring than we realize. Did I think he could have expressed himself better? Sure. But in no way did he come across as a jerk or anything. Just two people who weren’t really on the same page.

I wonder if the situation were a bit shadier (ie he had a girlfriend or something) whether they would have portrayed that. It wouldn’t surprise me if in that situation they would take more effort to avoid portraying Eric in an unduly negative light.

The way that Eric lived his life was inspiring. Nothing in his time on The Bachelor takes away from that. If anything, it meant that a much larger audience got a brief glimpse of a very special person, and hopefully that will only help his family/friends in their desire to use his life/death for good.
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Steve,

According to you I am one of those people who should never be able to reproduce.

After reading your last 2 posts I agree that Andi had nothing to do with Eric’s death. I would never have shared my thoughts with you if I had seen those posts first.

However, if Eric hadn’t confronted Andi things may be different today.

Now, may I reproduce?

Comment: Sure. Glad you came around. Anybody who took to social media and blamed Andi for anything regarding Eric’s death is true moron.
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Hi Steve,

I think it’s impossible to know the thinking behind the conversation between Eric and Andi. The show is so heavily edited and without being a witness to the interactions it isn’t my place to judge.

I can only guess that Eric had his hopes up after his one on one and then went on to feel ignored. Clearly these two were just not going to mesh.

I did however take exception with how they handled the final 10 minutes. It was a great concept with poor execution. Surely ABC could’ve come up with two better suited people to reminisce about Eric Hill’s life than two reality show stars who knew him for 2 weeks. I saw it as a clear ploy to run pr for Andi so she could continue to be seen in a positive light. I could only think that if I were a family member of Eric’s, I would’ve found it to be gratuitous and disingenuous at best.

On another note, did you see the tweet about Dylan by Mike Fleiss that was mocking and minimizing his family losses? I found this to be shockingly insensitive given the source. Later the tweet was deleted. Just amazing. What an ass.

Rock on with your bad self

Comment: Yeah, the tweet was from Robert Mills. I retweeted it. Totally classless, and that’s an ABC executive who wrote it. Then again, this is the same guy who retweeted someone saying, “Blow Me, Reality Steve” after the Des finale that I was wrong about, so, consider the source. Should we be surprised?
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First, I thought it was really nice that Eric’s sister sent you an email. I thought you addressed everything with Eric with class and it was nice you reminded everyone he was so much more than his short time on some silly show. I think everything you wrote about him was very well done.

In the first episode I was surprised with the short speech given by Chris Harrison about Eric. I was expecting something more at that point. I thought it was nice they dedicated the season to him and recognized it. However, I thought they could have maybe donated something to one of his favorite charities or the money that was raised in that silly stripper episode – they could have said, “In memory of Eric, all the money raised during this date was donated to _____.” (Eric’s favorite charity/something he felt passionate about.) Especially all this Bachelor Gives Back stuff, I mean the season is dedicated to him, why not do that?

As far as his exit, I’m glad they showed everything. I think this show in general is silly. I appreciate the fact that Eric called out Andi. I think calling her a TV actress would have been hilarious had this tragedy not happened but the fact he is no longer with us just makes it a little strange. I applaud Eric for bringing up his feelings/doubts, and I think it’s a little hypocritical of Andi for attacking him when she did the same thing with JP last season. All in all, I think the show handled it as well as they could have. I liked the fact that they stopped the episode and talked about him, however, I wish it was a little more about him, what kind of person he was, what he was doing with going around the world and less about Andi’s feelings with it. Andi sounded a little rehearsed and I didn’t think she sounded 100% genuine.

Comment: For all we know, the show has donated to Eric’s charity. Saying one way or another that they have or haven’t would be irresponsible.
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Steve,

I think they handled it as well as could be expected. And the choice not to show the rose ceremony was just fine. When I read some of the comments on the news articles about the discussion Eric had with Andi…It’s baffling to me. Folks need to remember that this is a Show…that it is manipulated to maximum dramatic effect and that the contestants themselves are in on the whole charade. Anyone that agrees to be on this show has GOT to know what they are getting into, and that finding true love is about as likely as finding a snowflake in the Sahara. (even for such a worldly wise traveler like Eric).

I refuse to believe that he honestly expected Andi to be genuine in her role on this show. He seems to have been an intelligent guy. Therefore he had to expect that the lead would follow the pattern of all of the leads that came before. (and all of the contestants for that matter) Therefore I look at things this way: Eric and Andi didn’t hit it off…didn’t connect. It was just a matter of how this was going to play out for the cameras. He pushed her buttons and she rose to the bait. Further confirming that they were not going to be a match in any scenario be it on this show or on another planet. And so…he was done. Folks also need to remember that they knew each other for SUCH a short period of time. I’ve had a loaf of bread in my cupboard for longer than that. I highly doubt Eric was affected very much by the whole thing and promptly went back to enjoying his adventurous life. It’s just a sad sad thing that his life ended so quickly. One has nothing to do with the other.

Amused by Alliterations in Arkansas.
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I thought that it was good of the show to focus on Eric’s life, rather than a rose ceremony. You can’t help comparing the way they handled Gia Allemand’s death, which was offensive and unforgivable.

After Andi’s overnight date with Juan Pablo, she spent 20 minutes yelling at him to “just feel something real, it doesn’t have to be good, it doesn’t have to be bad, just feel something real”. When Eric expressed how he really felt (I don’t believe that Eric was accusing Andi of anything, nor was he insulting her, he was just being honest about how he truly felt), Andi yelled at him for that too. How do you win with a person like that?

After Eric left, and Andi came storming into the cocktail party, she began yelling at the guys “if you think I have a poker face, and that this isn’t real to me, you can get your ass out the door”. Had I been a guy in that room, I would have gotten my ass out the door but quick and for good. This is not the classiest bachelorette that we’ve ever seen on this show.
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Hey Steve,

I’m writing this before I read your thoughts on how ABC handled Eric’s situation, so it could be similar to what you’ve already expressed.

I don’t fault ABC for showing Eric’s leaving footage. It happened, and it’s how he left. If it had been anyone else, they would have done the exact same thing. There were, however, three things that they should have done differently:

(1/2) put some sort of disclaimer at the beginning of the episode or upon return from commercial break – text that says this episode features Eric’s departure from the show or something to prepare us for the fact that he doesn’t leave via a rose ceremony. They even could have Chris Harrison say something, we all know he lives for appearing in front of Bachelor mansion to decree his proclamations. This would have given viewers the prepare for the fact that Eric didn’t leave on the most positive of notes.

(2) the scene with Chris and Andi felt like “CYA” for her. She came across as a hypocryte during her discussion with Eric and it seemed like ABC wanted to do damage control before watercooler talk started. A montage of Eric’s life would have been better.

Otherwise, not mad at ABC for showing the exit and surrounding circumstances.

Thanks & love the site!
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Here’s how last night’s Bachelorette made me feel.

First, I don’t think ABC could have avoided showing how he exited. At the end of the day, they are a television show and it was part of the story. I also really didn’t think what Eric did was that awful and it was portrayed that way. There was no way to get around the fact that Eric greatly upset Andi and that affected the rest of the night. Not that we saw it, but I imagine the mood of the rest of the night was drastically different and would have been so confusing if not given a context.

I think they really did what they could with a horrible situation. I liked that they sat down to talk to Andi about the situation and get a little more perspective from her side. I liked that they didn’t try to villainize him for speaking his mind. What would have been nice is maybe a little less talking to Andi and more talking to people who knew Eric better as a way to honor him. Even if it was just some guys from the show it would be nice to hear about his character.

All in all, it was a tough situation with no precedent as to how to handle it. It didn’t bother me that they showed all of his exit. A little more insight from other people would have been nice, but I think they handled themselves well- especially for a show built on generally making a mockery of people.
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I was extremely disappointed with the way that the show handled this incredibly delicate situation. While watching the ending segment, I was scrolling through my Twitter feed, and saw Ashley Spivey’s tweet and couldn’t agree more. It read something along the lines of, “This segment seems less like commemorating Eric’s life, and more about Andi saving face.”

I was amazed at how much both Chris and Andi (who was most likely fed lines) allowed the situation to be about THEM. Her comment that Eric would not be at Men Tell All was mind boggling. In the grand scheme of things, Men Tell All means absolutely nothing. I think people are reading into that comment too much. I didn’t see it that way.

When it comes down to it, Andi handled her last conversation with Eric poorly, and the way someone would who had several too many drinks. She clearly had no issue calling him out on not being “open,” but when she is accused of the same, she can’t handle it … and feels the need to walk around crying and screaming at the rest of the men who had nothing to do with the conversation.

I can think of at least 10 ways that would have been more appropriate, and even more compelling, to honor Eric’s life. Why not show a slide show of some of the photographs that he has documented on his site? Why not make a donation and encourage others to learn more about the Live Like Eric foundation? Why not put together a segment of interviews, asking Andi and the other guys in the house to talk about Eric and how he is the kind of person that will always be remembered? We don’t know what they still have in store so this might be a bit premature.

Lastly, I found it interesting how they didn’t feel it was appropriate to end the show with the typical rose ceremony, yet found no issue showing a ridiculous promo clip to the next episode. Really? You go from something as heavy as Eric’s death to the guys in black and white outfits laughing about mime moves? Pretty tasteless. I don’t see what’s wrong with showing a promo for what’s coming in two weeks.
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Dear Steve,

I wanted to say that I am perfectly fine with the way the situation with Eric was handled last night. You’re right, either way not everyone will be pleased so ABC just had to do what they thought was right. What I am concerned about is what is to come in regards to this situation. I was really hoping Eric wouldn’t be brought up on “Men Tell All” because he can’t be there to defend himself, but everyone seems to think it will still be discussed. I thought the interview with Andi last night was her outlet to reconcile the situation and kind of say her piece, that she came to the realization that some things are more important and admitted that she sometimes got too caught up in the show. She seemed at peace with the Eric situation and I thought that would be the end of it. If they allow the other guys to talk about Eric at “Men Tell All”, I am afraid negative things will be said which would be unfair since Eric cannot be there to defend himself. I agree with everything you have said up to this point in regards to how we should look at this situation, I am just worried about what is to come. Maybe I am naive to think ABC won’t allow anything negative to be said about Eric, but that’s what I was hoping for.

Comment: I’m pretty sure Eric will be talked about at the “Men Tell All” but I can’t imagine any of the guys are gonna go on the attack. That’d be shocking.
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My thoughts on how ABC handled Eric’s leaving and the confrontation with Andi? As you said, it’s just a reality show….they had a fun first date, but no real chemistry after that. This guy was MUCH deeper than what we saw for the 12 total minutes he was on screen…

I think it was ok to skip the rose ceremony, although, I would much rather have had more than just Andi and Chris talking about him. I think Chris Harrison giving us a few more details about his accident was fine, and you KNOW Andi probably has some lingering guilt over the last conversation she had with him. Since Chris Harrison called the Bachelor crew a “family”, it might have been nice to have some responses from some of the people we don’t see on camera each week talk a little about their interactions with him, and maybe a little video memorial from their cut footage – rather than give our Bachelorette diva more camera time. I don’t dislike Andi, but I don’t think she added anything to that part of the show.

Like the rest of your loyal followers, I love the columns, love the viewpoint, don’t always agree, but keep on doing what you do! This show has become so much more entertaining with your commentary!

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  1. bigfatwoman

    June 4, 2014 at 8:14 AM

    Wowza. Lots of opinions. I read most of them and come away with the basic impression that everyone loves Eric, most people think Andi overreacted to their argument and everyone is divided on how ABC handled the last 10 minutes of Eric’s final show.

    I’m not really sure how I feel about Andi. I will say that her argument with Eric and her follow-up interview has made me question whether there is a coldness to her. She sometimes comes off as rather detached and a bit aloof. Unless they start showing Josh in a better light, he comes off as arrogant and just another pretty face — so I don’t think Andi’s choice reflects too well on her. I think Nick’s airplane thoughts on Josh were probably right on the money.

    Andi and Josh will go down as another Bach couple that doesn’t interest me. The only couple that I truly like that has come out of this franchise is Ashley and JP. Hands down the most real, normal and grounded. Love them.

  2. realdeal

    June 4, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    Andi is going for pure physical attraction, and Josh is “her type”. Josh doesn’t seem to have much substance compared to some of the other guys, but she’s already made up her mind of who she wants after the first episode and no guy has a shot.

    The cameras can’t hide that she’s not giving any of the other guys much of a chance. Eric called her out and she got flustered and upset. She’s got to have a final four and Marcus, Chris, and Nick fill those 3 slots.

    It’s clear who the front runners is and it’s Josh without a doubt. It makes you wonder if Josh and Andi were introduced and knew each other as acquaintenances before the show.

    How do Patrick and Andrew keep getting a rose as of Episode 4 when she seems to show no interest in either of them?

  3. realdeal

    June 4, 2014 at 10:31 AM

    As for Eric’s exit. I am glad they showed Eric and Andi’s conversation. It gave more of an insight to the person that Eric is and made the audience respect an honest guy who stood up for what he believed in and wasn’t afraid have an open dialogue about it. He left the show with dignity and said he wanted to find love and love leads to family which was sad to watch.

    During the post-interview, Andi kept avoiding and side-stepping the real issue at hand. It seemed like she was more concerned about the potential fallout and damage to her reputation in the fans and media’s eyes. She was sad but there wasn’t anything she said that was too convincing. Andi is in hard spot and do feel for her. But a more appropriate tribute would have been for the guys to reflect and talk about Eric and getting to know him because they spent more time with him than Andi did.

  4. rob22

    June 4, 2014 at 11:02 AM

    I was starting to like Andi better this last episode. She wasn’t as dim witted and boring as Desiree and not insecure and clingy like Ashley. She seemed brighter, more interesting and engaging. Basically, I was falling for the act Andi was putting on, which Eric brought to light. No, she’s not really “that way”, she’s just working her tail off, and acting, to put on a good show for the cameras. The JJ date really showed that. They pulled in the goofiest guy to rip off Jacka**: Bad Grandpa with Andi. Why? Because Andi liked him? No, because JJ was the best Johnny Knoxville stand in that they had. She gave him the rose for his performance, but he’ll soon be gone. Just like with Eric, she has no real interest in him.

    Bottom line, she’s a lawyer. We can’t expect any real integrity from her. She picked Josh, and will cash in on DWTS and maybe a televised wedding and all the appearances. I wonder if the show will start televising the inevitable divorces that will occur once the gravy train stops rolling. Shades of the Jake / Vienna meltdown. TV Ratings Gold. MF will be all over that.

  5. serapa

    June 6, 2014 at 12:03 PM

    People are blaming Andi for Eric’s death??? REALLY???? REALLY???

    FOR REAL???

    Man, I’m glad I’m a busy mother of 2 young kids…have no time to read about idiots posting on media.

  6. serapa

    June 6, 2014 at 12:04 PM

    Rob22,

    I don’t see a lot of divorces coming from this show b/c the ppl that are married are staying the heck away from L.A. They are living humble lives near their families. They seem like pretty normal people.

  7. kimieaw

    June 8, 2014 at 12:31 AM

    Yes, I believe that Andi’s actions toward Eric contributed to his accident. He was distracted, his work requires total concentration and mindset. Eric Hill was already in a Reality Show of his own, so his image was very important to him. I believe he was concerned about the bachlorette show airing the footage of his last night. He was humiliated by her on his last night and he was just trying to communicate to her. He didn’t even get to say goodbye to anyone. Andy led him on and then perhaps because of her concerns about his career gave him the cold shoulder after their wonderful first date and after him discussing his career. She has to carry this with her, I don’t care how she tries to justify herself or cope, she needs to own her part. If things don’t go Andi’s way its the highway. I don’t see anyone would want her on their law team or DA team she is very immature. Andi take constructive criticism, NO. My daughter has a friend that was in law school with Andi and said she was self centered and stuck up before the show aired. I liked Andi and wanted to give her the benefit of a doubt, but NOW after the way she treated Eric, she needs to be made accountable for her part in his death. Now, I am Anti-Andi. Also, I am sure that the real reason the rose ceremony was not aired is because they trashed Eric, another thing he was pre-occupied about how his departure was going to be aired and how would be protrayed. He had his own career and life work to think about and he had a right to be concerned how this would ultimately effect that.

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