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The “Bachelorette” Andi Episode 6 Recap Including Ratings, Deleted Scenes, & Charity Event This Weekend

-Before we get started on this group date, I want to show you an email I’ve been holding on to for the last month or so. I knew this was the episode I was gonna show it, and it’s along the lines of what I’m talking about when I say you can’t take everything you see on social media at face value. Especially when it comes to spoilers. This email came to me on May 11th, shortly after I posted the episode-by-episode spoilers. It reads:

Hey RS,

I’m sure you don’t care, or maybe you’ve already seen this, but this was a picture of JJ in Italy that someone tweeted out on Saturday, April 5th. It shows him by himself talking to producers. Did you see this photo?

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I was reading your episode-by-episode spoilers and you say that JJ was on the group date in Italy for the lie detector date. How can he be on the group date if there’s a clear picture of him on a 1-on-1? I think you may be wrong on this one.

Ahhhhh, social media. Gotta love it. And trust me, this wasn’t the only email I received on it since I gave out the spoilers. I’d say at least once a week I got questioned along the lines of, “Are you sure JJ didn’t get a 1-on-1 in Italy,” all surfacing from this picture. Silly kids. On the surface, does it look like someone took a picture of JJ on a 1-on-1 date being pulled aside for his ITM? Yes, it does. But that’s obviously not what happened. I found out a little while later but decided to hold onto it until this episode just so I could bring out this email. The guys arrived in Italy on Saturday, April 5th. Immediately that’s when Nick had his 1-on-1. The guys checked into the hotel on the 5th, and you can see what JJ was wearing:

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The same exact thing he was wearing in that ITM shot that same day: blue hoodie, and multi colored scarf. It’s the only part of the episode where we see JJ in the blue hoodie and multi colored scarf. So basically, on an “off day” (at least for JJ since his group date wasn’t until the next day on Sunday the 6th), they still shoot guys ITM’s. Now, the picture of JJ shooting his ITM I don’t believe was ever used last night, but there’s plenty of footage never used. Just wanted to point this out to show that just because you see something on Twitter or social media, doesn’t necessarily mean it’s exactly what it seems. This picture seemed like JJ was on a 1-on-1. He wasn’t. Hell, this picture wasn’t even taken on a day that JJ had a date. Thank you class. There will be a test on this tomorrow.

-The lie detector test for the guys is up next. Now, there was so much choppy editing during this scene, to match guys up to who answered what to what question is pointless. Nobody knows for sure who answered what question and it what order, because this scene was so chopped up. The fact that we saw Dylan answer “no” to the question, “Do you wash your hands after leaving the bathroom” makes me think that was a complete edit. They wanted to pinpoint Dylan giving a stupid answer, so they show him saying no right after the interrogator asks it. So basically, I’m not gonna comment on any of these answers the guys gave because I’m sure it was edited to make it look one way when it really wasn’t. I can also tell you that after the lie detector test, when Dylan talked to Andi and said he wasn’t feeling good and had to leave, it had nothing to do with feeling upset because of any answers he gave. Please. Dylan was in the hospital that night running a high fever, so he was legitimately sick. Hence the reason he left after the test and we never saw him again until the cocktail party two days later. So yeah, if they’re gonna edit his exit that day to make you think he felt sick because of an answer he gave, I tend to think he never answered “no” to the washing your hands after the bathroom question.

-As for the questions they showed the interrogator asking Andi, really? I’m sure she got more than four, but boy were those dumb questions.

1) What’s your favorite country in the world?
2) Are all the guys here for the right reasons?
3) Are you falling in love?
4) Is your husband here?

Dumb. How about asking the good hard hitting questions? You know, like:

1) Was this thing over essentially after night one when you saw Josh walk through the door?
2) Did they offer you the “Bachelorette” gig if you put on that performance in St. Lucia with Juan Pablo?
3) Are you ever gonna cover up the girls this season?
4) Were you stone cold drunk the night that Eric called you out in Connecticut?

Now those are the questions I would’ve much rather have heard her answers to. Your favorite country in the world? Please. No one cares.

-Regardless, the interrogator who sounded much more Russian than he did Italian, says the results are in. And they’ve all tested positive for the herp. Kidding. He says three men told no lies. Two men told two lies. And one man told three lies. Also, Andi told two lies. The guys open up her results and she apparently lied about her favorite country, and were all the men there for the right reasons. Andi debates whether or not to read the guys’ results because she feels like it would look bad on her if she did, since it’d seem like she didn’t trust them. And three guys are basically sweating through their shorts that she doesn’t read them since they lied. Uh huh. Liar liar pants on fire. I’m gonna guess that JJ lied about having never worn a regular pair of jeans. Marcus lied about having any semblance of a personality. And Dylan lied about the amount of lube he puts in his hair every morning. Those are my guesses and I’m sticking to them. I dare you to prove me wrong.

-At the cocktail party, it’s evident that Andi is tired of being covered up, so she lets the girls come out and play that night with a top that’s basically cut in the front so you can pretty much see all the way down to her naval. Most women would call this getting dressed to the nine’s. Andi calls it Tuesday. Brian steals her away first and wants to give her his own lie detector test. Please Brian. No sports questions. If it’s not about UGA, LSU, or the SEC, I’m guessing Andi doesn’t know sh** about sports. He has her put her hand on his wrist, and his heart, you know, so she can feel a pulse. I’m sure he would’ve liked to have her reach and grab his junk, but that’s been hard since the Connecticut basketball date, so they wouldn’t have gotten anywhere. I don’t remember what she asked him and I don’t care. When he turned the tables on her to ask her questions, for some reason Brian with no game, decided not to put his hand on her wrist and heart. But judging from that top she had on, Brian putting his hand anywhere near Andi’s heart probably would’ve resulted in an NC-17 rating for last night’s show. It basically would’ve been what you see on Skinemax at 3:00am. So I’m told.

-Marcus’ turn to fawn all over a girl he barely knows. Marcus: “Never been in this situation before.” We know, because there’s been 10 previous seasons and you haven’t been a contestant on any of them. But I digress. Marcus tells her he was really thinking about leaving earlier in the season before he even had his 1-on-1 in Connecticut. Andi is taken aback by this because God forbid any person would ever ask to leave this show early, especially one of her guys. Ummmmm, it happens EVERY season. Most people want to leave before they actually do. It’s just a matter of if producers can figure out a storyline behind it if they allow you to. Marcus then tells her he had a talk with the guys, and he’s there because he believes in them and “I’m in love with you.” Awwwww, how sweet. Apparently Marcus just throws around the L word like it’s going out of business. He told Andi this on April 6th, yet within a week of moving in to “Bachelor in Paradise,” he’s all up in Lacy’s bizness. So yeah, Marcus just saying things he thinks she wants to hear. Probably a good idea Lacy didn’t see last night’s episode since I’m sure the jealous side would come out. They are definitely all over each other on BIP this season. Will it last? Of course not. (For the record, three nights before she left for Mexico, Lacy actually came on to my live video chat and asked a question and even went into the chat room to essentially brag to everyone she was going on the show. Of course she did).

-Josh’s turn and he’s not too thrilled with the lie detector test and takes it out on Andi. So many things wrong with this scene with first and foremost, that it was somehow Andi’s fault the date was a lie detector test. C’mon Josh. You know better than that. Like Andi has any say in what is gonna happen on the group dates. This was not her idea, or are essentially any of the dates. They do things to put you guys in uncomfortable positions to try and achieve the maximum amount of drama that they can. Have you not paid attention to the previous 4 group dates? Stripping, singing, basketball, and miming? But regardless of all that, we know every single season they have to show some sort of “conflict” with every person, or else it’d be far too easy for the audience to pick out who the lead chooses. Well, this was the episode to start throwing a monkey wrench into Josh and Andi’s relationship when it completely was forced. This was a mountain out of a mole hill. They essentially centered this episode around the guy that everyone figured was “perfect” for Andi, but here’s the chink in the armor that’ll get people to doubt. Basically they had nothing to show of Andi disliking Josh in any way, so they concocted this bogus story line. The “is he hiding something, can I trust him” storyline that’s basically out of left field. I guess this is what editors do when they’re bored and have to find something wrong with each guy.

-Remember back in the season opening promo when some of you have asked me over email and on the live video chat, why did it end with Andi crying and saying, “It’s too good to be true…” (at the 2:42 mark)

Well, now we clearly see that clip happened during last night’s episode when she was distraught about Josh, yet of course, it was never shown. So the big promo at the start of the season ends with Andi crying, saying it’s “too good to be true” taking off her mic, everyone starts freaking out, yet it’s never shown during the season. So that should answer that question about how relevant that clip was. It happens every single season, yet every single season people get sucked in to thinking something they see in a preview is some huge, giant storyline, when in reality, it ends up being nothing. Now, if they use that clip at some point later this season, that makes it 10 times worse since we know it happened in Italy. Keep your eye out for it. Maybe now people will stop asking about stuff in the season opening preview going forward. Ha ha…who am I kidding? You’ll all be fooled again next season, and the season after that, and the season after that, and still ask. I’m here to help people. Just trust me on things.

-Chris’ turn to pull her aside and during the lie detector test, he admitted that he was the secret admirer. Yeah, we knew that weeks ago Chris but thanks for filling the unspoiled in. I’m sure they appreciate it. Andi had another letter the day this group date started and Chris wrote a bunch of stuff to build his case for being the next “Bachelor,” so I guess that’s why they continued this storyline. By the way, for everyone clamoring for Marquel to be the next “Bachelor” do you REALLY think they are going to cast a guy who never had a 1-on-1, never got a group date rose, and who lasted 5 episodes? Not to mention we really know absolutely nothing about Marquel other than he likes cookies, works in sales for the UFC, and has a nice smile. Lets see, when was the last time they ever gave the lead to someone who never had a 1-on-1, we barely knew, and who didn’t even make it to the episode before hometowns? Oh yeah, that’s right. Juan Pablo. Not saying Marquel is Juan Pablo, because nobody could possibly be worse than Juan Pablo as the “Bachelor,” but I’m sorry, it’s not happening with Marquel. And oh yeah, Chris got the group date rose. You know, like I said he would ha ha.

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  1. Athena

    June 24, 2014 at 11:04 AM

    FWIW, Whenever Andi and Josh have one of their conversations when she tells him he makes her nervous, that she’s not sure she can trust him, etc., he never ever acknowledges her being scared/nervous/etc., but simply launches into telling her she’s wrong. Basic communication skills would suggest that acknowledging someone’s feelings before offering reassurance is validating. Boo Josh. I guess it’s all in the pheromones for those two because it sure isn’t happening in the communication dept.

  2. shouldbeworking

    June 24, 2014 at 11:49 AM

    I bet JJ will never tell another woman that he’s not good in bed…ha!

  3. kinbville

    June 24, 2014 at 12:04 PM

    When Andi told JJ “you wear your heart on your sleeve” I kept thinking..Insert…”I mean on your pants.” ha ha. Anyway, bad joke. I thought the same thing about the flesh colored leather pants. Andi, wear a shirt that goes down a bit longer in the front next time. GROSS! Poor Cody. She was all sweet, doing all the AWWWSSS and leading him on and then, boom, she waits till “dinner” to dump him. I guess ABC wanted us to see the dumb date but we all knew she was planning on dumping him the whole day. Eric was right, she’s not a bad actress. And finally, yes to all the viewers who write about her stupid duck face, especially during the rose ceremony. She has that permanent frown with her lips stuck out. I bet she already has frown wrinkles.

  4. rob22

    June 24, 2014 at 12:30 PM

    Don’t you love the unwritten rules that have sprung up on The Bachelorette. You can’t talk to The Bachelorette too early if you already have a rose. Or, you can’t think you’re the front runner. Really? Why not? So you don’t offend a dozen uber-sensitive girly-men that you’ll never see again, except perhaps on MTA or Bachelor Pad (if your reputation is already so low it can’t descend any further)? In real life, if a guy whined about something like this he’d lose his man card and have to buy a round for the whole bar. The “men” really act like a group of little girls at a slumber party. No, she’s my girl! I saw her first! I can’t believe Nick had the nerve to talk to Andi first. I’m going to unfriend him right now! Oh, so Nick thinks he’s all that now, he’s soooooo conceited. Let’s short sheet his bed & unfollow him! Completely childish.

  5. sandy

    June 24, 2014 at 12:43 PM

    And one bachelor doesn’t wash his hands after using the bathroom…. Gross!

  6. vessel

    June 24, 2014 at 1:09 PM

    I can’t believe the amount of sh*t Andi takes on social media for the way the corners of her mouth naturally turn down. Yes I notice it, and I have seen others who have that mouth shape and yeah it’s an unfortunate look for sure. Heck Chris the farmer has it a bit, too. But she was born with her mouth that way the same way Sarah Herron was born with one arm. No one would dare ridicule Sarah for something that she was born with so I just wonder why SO many people think it’s absolutely fine to make fun of Andi for also something she has no control over, either? You can dislike her, fine, but that kind of nastiness is rather childish, IMHO. Just sayin’…

  7. karynr

    June 24, 2014 at 2:10 PM

    vessel, isn’t it ridiculous?! She can’t help how her mouth is shaped. It doesn’t bother me at all. If it wasn’t magnified on TV or social media, no one would even notice. We all have physical attributes that may stand out to others, but isn’t it somewhat ignorant to give someone crap for how their mouth is shaped? I find it absolutely ridiculous, but those that don’t like Andi are all over her because of it.

  8. amyrn22

    June 24, 2014 at 3:07 PM

    I think the reason why Andi’s mouth bothers people (including me) is because she doesn’t always look that way. She consciously turns her mouth down and sticks her lips out and honestly it looks like she’s trying to do it on purpose to look “sexy.” Maybe we’re all wrong, and it’s completely subconscious, but she only does it when a guy is talking to her one-on-one and it’s a close up of her face. It’s kind of like how Clare used to run her tongue over her teeth when she was talking to Juan Pablo to look sexy. Also, Andi changes her voice with every guy she’s talking to, so it wouldn’t surprise me if she’s practicing that “sexy face” lips pushed out look in the mirror. With Josh she’s all southern accent and then on Nick’s date yesterday, there wasn’t a hint of southern at all. It was a different raspy “sexy” voice. Not sexy at all, annoying as hell in fact, but she changes it all the time depending on who she’s with.

  9. amyrn22

    June 24, 2014 at 3:14 PM

    Also, I can’t believe how many people are buying into this whole Josh situation. He seems so disingenuous to me. He knows exactly what to say, and it’s just line after line that has been used in the past on this show and worked. Something about him is so unattractive to me. His hair and tan and white teeth. He just seems so TV ready. So does Andi, so I think they’ll probably last, at least for awhile. They both seem to want the same thing- DWTS, the TV wedding, appearances on E news. They seem like they’re gonna be just like Sean and Catherine. Hopefully not as co-dependent as those two are though. This is totally off-topic, but I have to hand it to Des and Chris. They seem like the most normal couple that has ever come from this show, besides JP and Ashley. They do some bachelor stuff, but pretty much fly under the radar and seem really in love, in a real way, not in a obsessive S&C way. I remember hating Des during her season and being so shocked about Chris winning, but they’re actually normal and doing okay. Good for them. What do you guys think?

  10. bigfatwoman

    June 24, 2014 at 5:09 PM

    @Amryn——-

    I am definitely with you about Josh. He doesn’t appeal to me in any way from looks to personality to huge bleached white chompers. Andi’s choice of him certainly makes me question her judgment.

    As far as Des and Chris, I really like them too. I follow them both on Twitter and they are just real and sweet. I feel the same way about Ashley and JP.

    I am NOT a fan of Sean and Catherine (aka Lunkhead and Gigglesnorts). While I admire their convictions in their faith and their pre-wedding abstinence…..I have read way too many things about paid appearances, unhappy lemmings who were unable to get too close to them because of security. “Grown sexy, consummation station” and need I say more? I find them to be front and center on the “LOOK AT OUR LOVE” stage and it turns me off.

    Last point….Andi’s naked leather pants…..so awful…..I thought for a moment she was wearing a mini dress.

    This season is getting more and more stale as it progresses.

  11. vessel

    June 24, 2014 at 5:54 PM

    @Karynr, yep totally ridiculous. She has a strong personality and thus people, I think, tend to really like her or really not like her. I think those who are in the camp that doesn’t like her are eager to jump over every flaw and imperfection with glee. I don’t think she chooses to frown, why would anyone consciously down turn their mouth? Also like I said if you watch Chris you’ll see a bit of the same mouth shape. I think she does it unconsciously because that’s pretty much her resting face. It’s exaggerated, imo, when she’s listening to someone and concentrating. I mean obviously when she is actively smiling or laughing she isn’t doing it, but I think pretty much the rest of the time that’s just sort of the natural shape of it. Haven’t noticed her voice pitch changing but maybe that’s just because I like her so I’m not looking for flaws and she doesn’t have any that have jumped out at me or bugged me, aside from “stop.” (which really bugs me but oh well) In any case for me she’s about a million times more entertaining to watch than Desiree. I’m sure Des is a lovely person but she was so vanilla and personality-minus to me as Bachelorette I snoozed through her season and thus Andi is a breath of fresh air by comparison. But happy she and Chris seem to be working out, I had major doubts for a while, and that shameless greedy $$$ campaign they had going for their “poetry” book? Yuck. I hope not too many suckers bought into that.

  12. ashley4

    June 24, 2014 at 7:25 PM

    You do realize you basically just said the viewers of the show and thus the readers of your site are not smart, not intelligent (aren’t those the same?), not highly educated or successful? I’d watch it buddy, before you have no audience. If poor idiots are who are expected to watch the show what does that say about you? Also, I can’t speak for all of your posts but the “spoilers” for next weeks show don’t really seem much of a spoiler when you’re getting the info from the previews ABC air. Just sayin.

  13. texan

    June 25, 2014 at 6:14 AM

    ashley4: “not smart, not intelligent (aren’t those the same?)”

    No.

  14. Sunnyside422

    June 25, 2014 at 6:21 AM

    Watching Markus and his lack of personality, can understand why Andi failed to choose him. He is beyond dull and boring. Seldom if ever smiles and his puppy love for her is really sad. He is soon to be 26 but behaves as though he is 15.

    And pool Dylan just needs some major hugging. Another person who has suffered losses recently and should never have come to this silly show!

    Josh is following the script nicely…plying her with all the compliments she desires. But when discussing smarmy…Nick has it all! He strokes her mightely and she loves it. And his voice makes me think “mush mouth”. Find it difficult understanding him but then don’t care what he says cause it’s all fake and phoney. Another one who wants to “win” at all costs. The guys have him pegged for sure.

    I think Andi gave up on the best guy, Eric. He was the whole package…never smarmy, always truthful, and definitely easy to look at it.

    Poor Cody…how sad was his date with her. Pushing for affection will never work. So Michelle Money has finally decided to leave Graham alone. Never found him attractive at all.

  15. Sunnyside422

    June 25, 2014 at 6:21 AM

    Sorry…word was supposed to be “poor” Dylan.

  16. Dianne

    June 25, 2014 at 6:54 AM

    ashley4 – take it easy, honey. It’s Steve, whom you obviously don’t know well. It’s his blog and he can say whatever he wants. And no, “not smart” and “not intelligent” are far from being the same.

  17. rob22

    June 25, 2014 at 7:57 AM

    I’ve said it before, but Des was incredibly boring (and a bit dim) & her season incredibly forgettable…. but Des would likely make a great wife. She’s very nice, appears to be very low maintenance & also seems very unlikely to rule the household with a heavy hand. She’d probably be a very loving Mom too. So, those traits are awesome, but just don’t translate into great TV. So, in the end, boring show, but she’ll probably have a great life with Chris. Kudos to her. Andi, is her polar opposite. She’s intelligent, outgoing, ambitious, interesting…. all the things that Des was not. But, based on her behavior on the show, I think she’ll be a nightmare wife. Maybe not Vienna, but more Vienna than Des, for sure. Yeah, I’m not saying Andi is dumb trailer trash, she’s not close to that. But I do think she’s high maintenance & unless she marries a puppy dog that follow her around and does what she says, it’s going to be a short relationship. I think that Josh is certainly playing the part of “Rover” here. But, is he really that way? I don’t think so. He, like Andi, are playing a part. Maybe they’ll carry it through and take all the goodies…. DWTS, Wedding, Appearances, maybe their own reality show (who knows). But when it’s all over, there’s a John & Kate implosion waiting to happen.

  18. angelfish

    June 25, 2014 at 11:09 AM

    So if a woman is ” intelligent, outgoing, ambitious, interesting”, then she has to marry a doormat to have a successful marriage? Or if a guy is “intelligent, outgoing, ambitious, interesting”, then his wife better be a mouse that stays home, birthin’ them babies and never opens her mouth?

    Seriously? 2 “intelligent, outgoing, ambitious, interesting” people cannot meet, fall in love, get married and have a successful future?

    Sorry, I know more successful marriages like THAT than ones where one spouse is totally subservient to the other. I live in 2014, not 1814.

  19. vessel

    June 25, 2014 at 2:35 PM

    I wish someone could cite specific examples of Andi’s so called “nightmarish behavior” on the show? I’m not singling people out on here because I’ve seen a lot of people making comments about her being high maintenance, b*tchy, shallow, etc. from many sources and so far I have seen no evidence of this (aside from her possibly overreacting to what Eric said, but even that I think people make more of it than it was because he passed away and they feel bad, and also I don’t think he did a great job of articulating his thoughts to her). Emily was high maintenance! To me Andi seems to be a good listener, ask thoughtful questions, seems genuine and kind when she sends guys home, etc. Honestly what am I missing that so many people think any guy she chooses is in for a world of problems putting up with her? I’m so confused by this it sometimes feels like I am watching a totally different show than everyone else!

  20. bigfatwoman

    June 25, 2014 at 4:11 PM

    I abhor the “low maintenance” and “high maintenance” labels applied to women.

    The label isn’t meant to be gender specific, but let’s face it, it’s mostly used to describe women.

    It’s insulting, simplistic and shallow. Hate it.

  21. angelfish

    June 25, 2014 at 5:56 PM

    @vessel
    I don’t think you’re watching a different show, as much as you aren’t filtering it through a bitter, hyper-critical and resentful world view.

    Some people just want to see the worst in everything and everyone, and delight in picking apart people they don’t even know.

    I also dislike then term “maintenance” when applied to dealing with people. It’s extremely judgmental.

  22. cjscjs711

    June 25, 2014 at 7:50 PM

    Don’t be too surprised if Mensans DO discuss this show. Member of Mensa myself and Mensans are very interested in current culture and cultural phenomena; including the reality-behind-the-reality shows, which your column provides. The show is much more entertaining and revealing from the informed perspective than from a naive perspective of either there-is-no-script or, just-about-every-word-is-scripted. Keep it up. But no, I doubt there is a SIG (special interest group) that meets every week just to discuss this show. 🙂

  23. kasey31

    June 26, 2014 at 5:17 AM

    Really funny recap. I can’t get enough of the Cheetos references with Nick haha, too funny.

    Vessel- You and a couple others bring up some valid points regarding Andi and the criticism she’s been getting here, from me included last week. I don’t want to be one of those viewers who hates on all the leads. I liked Ali, Ashley, Emily (while her season was airing, didn’t like her once it was over), and my biggest complaint about Des and was how boring she seemed, but I like her now. So I’ve never been one to pick on the contestants and their little idiocincracies, we all have them. The thing she does with her lip never bothered me either, and surprisingly, neither does the “stoooop.” I really liked Andi until the episode before last, and I just began to question why her personality varied depending on who she was with, but who knows how I’d act if I were in her shoes, and maybe bc each guy is different, she treats them differently.
    There are a lot of qualities about Andi which come across as completely sincere. I think all in all she seems very sweet, she’s smart, carries on good conversation with the guys, she’s funny, I love her laugh- she looks like she is genuinely having a good time with each guy and trying to get to know them all. She seems genuine in her feelings of sadness when she sends a guy home, goes out of her way to tell them how great they are and why she wasn’t feeling a connection, instead of just letting them go. When Dylan told the story of his brother and sister, she seemed genuinely empathetic towards what he went through, so I don’t want to pick on Andi and become someone who watches the show just to nit pick the lead when they’re undeserving of it. She certainly doesn’t come across as a bad person who is ill-intended- maybe just feeling her way through the process as the lead. And she’s doing a pretty darn good job. So thanks for bringing that up. She does seem to be very thoughtful with each guy in the questions she asks and in her responses.

    I, too, will 2nd or 3rd BFW. High/low maintenance makes my skin crawl. And the whole “She’ll make a good wife bc she won’t ask me questions, unless she’s asking what I want for dinner” is so unattractive but not surprising coming from the source.

  24. rob22

    June 26, 2014 at 7:24 AM

    Wow. Way out of context ladies. You can be intelligent, driven, etc and be a great wife and not high maintenance. I’m talking about women who always want things their way and require a lot of time, effort and money to keep them happy. All I was referencing is that Des seemed pretty relaxed, easy to please and unlikely to stir up drama. Andi seemed like the opposite, particularly after her hissy fit with Eric when he tried to discuss her behavior with her and be real. You can disagree whether she’s really that way or not.

    For guys the term is not used the same. Guys who want it their own way and require, for example, dinner on the table at 6:00, a spotless house, and the final say in all decisions are not called high maintenance, they’re called controlling SOBs or sexist pigs. Which terms are worse? Should guys get upset because women are not typically called sexist pigs? Different terms, but there are negative terms for each of the sexes. Use or not use as desired.

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