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The “Bachelorette” Andi Episode 8 Recap Including “Men Tell All” This Weekend & Who Got Engaged?

You know I was fired up for last night’s episode. In the over 10 years I’ve been writing about this show, and all the numerous places they’ve been, never once had I ever been a part of filming. Not like I really ever would be since it’s not like I’d travel to any of these places just to see them, so when Marcus’ hometown date was filmed outside in a boutique mall 30 minutes from me, of course I was gonna drive down there and see what it was about. The only other time I came close was Emily’s season when I flew to North Carolina thinking they would be there. Since all I knew was that they were there, but not sure how long they would be there, I just guessed. And I guessed wrong. The day I arrived was the day they left filming in North Carolina and headed to Bermuda. So I just had myself a fun little weekend in North Carolina with no 1-on-1’s or group dates to scope out. I did go by the mansion they stayed in though. Nice area. And chowed down some Lorenzo’s pizza in the strip mall right behind the mansion. Very good pizza.

An update to the “Bachelor in Paradise” spoilers. I should’ve figured this was the case after I told you the producers essentially begged Chris Bukowski to propose to Elise and he didn’t. I mean, if they wanted him to propose, it only made sense they were looking for an engagement out of this thing. Well, they got it. Marcus and Lacy got engaged at the end of the show. So basically it became “Married At First Sight Minus Three Weeks.” I mean, this really isn’t that unprecedented when it comes to this franchise’s “summer” show. On “Bachelor Pad 2,” Blake and Holly got engaged in front of Michael’s face essentially, and they’re still married to this day. “Bachelor Pad 3” saw Tony get engaged to Blakeley on the finale and they lasted about a month before she moved out. Hey, 50% isn’t bad. Hell of a lot better than their “Bachelor” or “Bachelor Pad” track record. That’s been added to your “Bachelor in Paradise” episode-by-episode spoilers.

The “Men Tell All” tapes this Saturday in LA. Not that you needed any more proof who the final two are, but Chris will be in attendance this weekend since he gets eliminated next episode. For those that don’t know how it works, they show the audience the episode first, then bring the guys out. Wouldn’t make sense for them to bring the guys out before everyone sees the episode because Chris hasn’t been eliminated yet. But he will be there, confirming your final 2 of Nick and Josh, something you knew months ago. And once it’s down to Nick and Josh, you have to be quite the conspiracy theorist knowing that those are the final two but you think she picks Nick, even after seeing the videos from the plane. It’s ok. We won’t hate you. I’ll just blame your parents for your idiocy.

Courtney’s book has made the NY Times Best Seller list. You think Melissa Rycroft, Trista Sutter, and Shawntel Newton were thrilled to see this? I’m guessing not. You know, cuz women hate women. And basically their book of life journeys, and inspirational quotes, and woman power couldn’t outsell juicy gossip. Unfortunately, that’s the world we live in nowadays.

I mentioned at the beginning of the season that for the finale this year, I would attend any viewing party if someone used the Crowdtilt link I provided and spend a minimum $500 budget. Well, it’s been done. On Monday night, July 28th, I’ll be in Armonk, NY at Fortina’s for a finale viewing party that has already raised close to $2,500 and has over 50 people already attending. Looking forward to this trip and the party. Still three weeks to go to raise money for this event as portions of every ticket purchased will go towards in honor of Eric Hill. If you’re in the area and want to attend, you still have plenty of time. Tickets are now $40, and that covers your entry into the party, along with dinner for the night. Or if you just want to donate to the cause, you can make your donation here. Thanks to everyone who’s already purchased tickets and/or donated. Look forward to seeing everyone.
Ratings are in from last night, and as expected, a pretty big jump from last week as we get down to the final few guys. 6.8 million people watched, which was a little more than 500k who watched last week. Plus, they went from a 1.6 to a 1.8 in the all important 18-49 demo. This definitely shows me that the finale will be in the high 7 million/low 8 million viewer range. With the ATFR probably drawing a tad higher than that like it usually does, because people want to see the final couple together for the first time.

At the time of this posting, the deleted scenes from this week haven’t been posted yet. I will include them in Thursday’s column once they’re up.

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  1. rob22

    July 8, 2014 at 11:53 AM

    I commented a few weeks ago that they would, for sure, be going back to the “Eric died” card on the episode it happened & that they would milk it for all it was worth. They went beyond that by having the producers do the group hug thing with the camera hidden in another room still running. This was a transparent attempt to make us believe the producers gave a crap about Eric. I don’t know whether they did, or didn’t, but the footage was meant to make them look good…. even while they were simultaneously milking Eric’s death for ratings. You can spin it anyway you want, and maybe even say they had good intentions, but they sucked every single remaining rating point out of that interaction.

    I don’t see how Chris can be considered Bachelor material. I get it that they can’t go with Nick because of timing and now #4 Marcus has disqualified himself by going on a trashy show & getting engaged. And they don’t want to get stuck with someone like Juan Pablo again, who really wasn’t central to the current season (and was really stupid & didn’t speak English). So, I guess you have to go “Team Chris”. But seriously, the hometown date in a mowed down corn field? Who’s signing up for that lifestyle? I’m surprised they didn’t go see the sites and cruise over to downtown. Oh yeah, those places don’t exist where Chris lives. Hmmmm…. Juan Pablo’s looking better and better. At least he had a 15 second soccer career with one good highlight. What does Chris have? Besides a DUI and a few assorted MIPs? He’s a farmer. I suppose they’ll find someone clueless like Clare who will swear her undying love for Chris if he smiles at her. I guess that’s what will happen.

    Andi, of course, continued with her frowny resting face. That will get annoying real quick. But, at least she’s an intelligent person with a plan. Not the worst catch in the world. But, Josh? His idea of a good time is following the Chiefs around to watch Aaron wear a visor and hold a clipboard? Aaron may have been a starter for Georgia forever, but that’s not happening in the NFL. If he gets in the game, it will because the Chiefs are already losing 55-0 and the coaches don’t want the starting QB to get injured.

    Andi: let’s take a trip down to the gulf. We’ll take a romantic walk on the beach and then go to a nice restaurant and sit on the deck eating fish that was caught that morning. Then we’ll hang out in the hot tub at our condo and see what happens. Wink. Wink.

    Josh: Uh, no. The Chiefs are playing the Raiders. We need to fly out to Oakland this weekend. After we watch Aaron hold a clipboard for three hours in the worst stadium on the planet, we can drive around Oakland and take pictures of all the homeless people. Maybe we’ll even see a drive by shooting. Good luck with that Josh thing, Andi.

  2. angelfish

    July 8, 2014 at 12:31 PM

    That was one of the funniest recaps I’ve read in a while. I absolutely loved the breakdown of Nick’s Home Town Date and the apparently growing number of people involved as it played out.

  3. sandy

    July 8, 2014 at 12:34 PM

    Not a fan of Josh at all. And his HTD clinched the deal for me. Something seems off with Josh and after seeing his family my assumptions were correct.

    In no way shape or form will Andi ever play second fiddle to Aaron or to Josh. Andi is the queenbee and she will never ever hand her crown over to Aaron and his family. Heck, even sister Stephanie forewarned Andi of what’s in store for the future. Oh well. The things some do for fame and fortune.

    I have to say Chris’s hometown was awesome!

    Nick’s family was great, I kind of feel bad for him with the edit that the show is given him. I sense he is just a guy looking for love. I think after the show some lady will snap him up. I hope so anyway

    Marcus, Really? What was the appeal of him to begin with? Not surprised that he was eliminated.

  4. sandy

    July 8, 2014 at 12:37 PM

    Oh, and forgot to add.

    Another baseball date with Josh? Really? Oh but maybe Aaron will be in outfield tossing some footballs during the date. Gotta get him in there too!

  5. JovisMom

    July 8, 2014 at 12:53 PM

    Is it just me or did anyone else get the feeling before Chris let everyone know about Eric that they knew something bad was about to happen? The feeling in the room was very somber to me. It’s almost like they knew about the accident already but just not that he had passed away. Weird I don’t know.

  6. trisht1

    July 8, 2014 at 1:16 PM

    Am I the only one who noticed Josh is a fast talker and not a good listener? He is one of those people who talk fast and then when the other person starts to speak, he is already thinking of what he will say next and is just rushing the person by saying “uh, uh” and is not even paying attention to what they are saying! I’m sure that won’t be a problem for he and Andi the district attorney who is used to being heard and being the center of attention!

  7. realdeal

    July 8, 2014 at 1:22 PM

    Andi chose Josh for 2 reasons:

    1.) Andi might have access to possible contacts in the entertainment industry through Aaron Murray.

    2.) Andi’s father Hy is a fan of Aaron Murray and pressured her into choosing Josh.

    Andi has been forewarned by all of Josh’s family members that she will be expected to be in attendance to Aaron Murray’s games. I don’t think Andi will be happy with Josh and they will not last.

  8. realdeal

    July 8, 2014 at 1:25 PM

    Kelly Travis dumped Sharleen as a friend because Sharleen is out of the spotlight, now that the Bachlore Juan Pablo is over with. Now Kelly is BFF with Andi so she can get more attention. Kelly is an irrelevant social climber and leeches off of other people to stay relevant and in the public eye.

  9. texan

    July 8, 2014 at 1:40 PM

    trisht1: No, you’re not the only one to notice. Josh is a fast talker, and everything he says sounds so rehearsed and unnatural. I find it off-putting.

  10. rolltideroll

    July 8, 2014 at 1:51 PM

    As a diehard SEC female fan (like Steve said, we eat, sleep, breathe, and live for football), the idea of traveling every weekend to pro games AND having the hookup to college games is a huge BONUS.

  11. lcs85

    July 8, 2014 at 2:45 PM

    Jovismom- Well they were all asked over to Chris Harrison’s house late in the evening with the camera crew all there. It’s not something that typically happens, so I’m sure they were a little confused about what was going on. Plus they didn’t get a happy, excited welcome from Chris Harrison, so that too probably tipped them off that this was serious.

  12. Sunnyside422

    July 8, 2014 at 2:51 PM

    Andi actually felt horrible about the last conversation with Eric! Didn’t think she’d ever admit to it, but it would have been nice to hear her say she was sorry their time together ended like that. Nick and Marcus did seem deeply effected by the death, Josh and Chris not much emotion from them. And for sure the producers gathering around for time on camera was a total putz thing to do…way to milk his death!

    Yes Josh’s mouth runs on and on where I feel he is racing just to hear himself speak!

    And it is certainly evident Nick has some speech problem…maybe the teeth protruding (sister has the same teeth) but he is darn hard to understand. Mumble Mumble!

    There is no way I found Chris attractive or even interesting. When she was on his lap, he could have kissed her neck, kissed her hair or in some way indicated he felt something for her. Could be he doesn’t. I think he will be a total snooze as Sean and Benjie were.

  13. angelfish

    July 8, 2014 at 2:52 PM

    Here’s Chris Harrison’s TV Guide interview from this morning. He very clearly explains how & why they did the Eric notification the way they did.

  14. gemsnob

    July 8, 2014 at 3:01 PM

    What everyone seems to be forgetting is Chris is worth millions which I am sure will attract lots of the women on the next season. His family owns 6000 acres of land and 12,000 hogs. Do you really think Chris does any manual labor on this farm? The answer is no he does not. They have many employees that do all the “hard” work. Chris went to college and is basically running the operation. He is busy making deals to sell their crops, etc. I am sure he does some work but not that much. His sisters eluded to this last night stating he is a great “business man” and that most people don’t know that. His family was not worth this much until he graduated and pretty much took over the operations. I have a friend in that area and trust what she told me. I think Chris did not bring up his wealth since he does not want to attract the wrong woman. Too bad it is too late for that since he seems like a very nice down to earth guy. I think Chris did a great job “downplaying” his wealth. There will be plenty of women signing up for his season.

  15. bigfatwoman

    July 8, 2014 at 3:52 PM

    You could not pay me money to be with Josh or his single minded family. Josh speaks so fast I’m surprised his cap of hair doesn’t fly off. He doesn’t show much personality and bonus!….he lives and breathes for the person he never was….his brother. Yay sibling worship!

    Ooooohhhh…..can I spend my life following around a football player like some whacked out Grateful Dead fan??? Sounds sexy and oh so fascinating!!

    The population of Chris’ hometown is actually 427. That’s like almost 50% smaller than Stevie’s number. I think that if Andi lived there her giant ego should count for 2 people.

    Steve didn’t mention much about Marcus’ striptease. I felt embarrassed for him. He does have nice buns though.

    The Eric Hill story should’ve been mentioned, yet it was clearly exploited. I found it awkward and in poor taste.

    I think Chris has potential as Bachelor. He seems like a genuine guy, he’s smart, he has sexy moments and he’s loaded. Like Steve said, his place of residence is inconsequential since his final choice most likely won’t last.

    I sure hope Catherine was happy with her hair do! I mean gosh, her hunky husband could’ve messed it up when they visited consummation station and gotten all grown sexy with sexy child bangs like hers. You go Catherine and Sean. Ride that 15 minutes and ride it hard.

  16. realdeal

    July 8, 2014 at 5:16 PM

    Were Andi’s Last Word to Eric Shown on TV?

    I bet Andi’s last words to Eric Hill was not what the audience saw on television. Bet Andi had a few more choice mean words for Eric and told him to get the hell off the show. We never saw Andi tell Eric to go home. They had the exchange at the cocktail party, where she didn’t tell him to return home, and then the camera shows Eric waiting for a cab. What does everyone thing?

  17. realdeal

    July 8, 2014 at 5:17 PM

    Were Andi’s Last Words to Eric Shown on TV?

    I bet Andi’s last words to Eric Hill was not what the audience saw on television. Bet Andi had a few more choice mean words for Eric and told him to get the hell off the show. We never saw Andi tell Eric to go home. They had the exchange at the cocktail party, where she didn’t tell him to return home, and then the camera shows Eric waiting for a cab. What does everyone think?

  18. mariet

    July 8, 2014 at 6:17 PM

    I am pretty sure Chris is not out feeding hogs and plowing fields.

  19. angelfish

    July 8, 2014 at 7:10 PM

    Seriously! He’s a broker, he does exactly as much work in the fields as he feels like.

  20. maiklotz

    July 8, 2014 at 7:33 PM

    About showing the part with all the producers hugging the guys and Andi. I think that when they filmed it they didnt know if they would show it or not, but then when you have Andi saying “I kicked him out! I cant believe that was the last conversation i had with someone”, i mean, it was too good to left out. Even more after they had that interview with Andi after Eric left the show and she seemed so cold, talking about the Men tell all and stuff….

  21. cjscjs711

    July 8, 2014 at 10:28 PM

    I think Josh’s proximity to Andi is a HUGE factor in her choosing him.

    Say they edited it all you want, Josh’s family sounded like a big-time football household. Andi has admitted she’s been interested in athletes, but hasn’t come across anyway as a big, knowledgeable football fan. And following the guy city to city to watch him play (a boring game) – I wonder how into that she is?

    Chris’s farm is an hour’s drive away from a big city. That’s not an unusually long commute. Where do you live, Steve, that you think that’s a a long commute? I think Andi enjoyed herself on the farm – how not to? Especially knowing she was just visiting. A lot of women could have a very happy life there. I hope Chris doesn’t end up with a gold digger.

    The crew being on camera didn’t bother me at all. That the quality of the video recording was shot to hell after that point did bother me.

    What I find humorous is people online (not you) writing how Andi has her brilliant career as “a District Attorney” to think about leaving behind……

  22. purplesunsets

    July 9, 2014 at 1:53 AM

    Wow the public love for Marcus getting dumped and this love for the “perfect” guy was more than I thought. Well ok its happened to the others too. Ppl wanting him for Bachelor too. I wonder if the public thoughts on him will change after BIP. I keep seeing arrest news from the past now from Marcus and illegal substances. This show will dig up the dirt on you for sure.

    So many ex bachelor/ettes have come to Chris for next Bachelor conclusion lately. I think the way he’s getting played up now points to he will be. Dont think thatll change.

    Dont really see how else they couldve shown the Eric thing despite the mixed opinions what else could they do thatll make sense. Chris H said it pretty well on the blog. That MTA will be interesting.

  23. angelfish

    July 9, 2014 at 4:14 AM

    Marquel who?

  24. mommyof2

    July 9, 2014 at 6:16 AM

    I think Chris is by far the best choice for next bachelor. Although Andrew Firestone was always my favorite bachelor for years, Sean came along and became my favorite and arguably the best bachelor they ever had. Why? Because he’s kind, polite, charming, caring, and most of all- genuine. And the best-looking. Although Chris doesn’t beat out Sean in the best-looking category, he is attractive, highly successful, kind, charming, and genuine. Plus, the franchise can play up the farmer angle, which they’ve never had before. Marcus was good-looking, but came off as boring and somewhat desperate (as evidenced by his most-recent engagement on BIP), Nick came off as arrogant (although I bet he’s actually a nice guy who truly fell for Andi and thought it would be the two of ten in the end). After the failures of Ben and Juan Pablo as bachelors, they have probably realized that the most genuine guys make the best bachelors, which translate into better ratings.

  25. rob22

    July 9, 2014 at 6:38 AM

    A couple of more comments on Chris. Again, I don’t dislike the guy. It seems like he has done well for himself in a town with not a lot going on. Props to him.

    First, since East Podunk, IA is not exactly going to excite many girls, it’s clear that the show is dropping hints that Chris is rich. He’s really not just a farmer…. he’s an entrepreneur. He’s got bank. Oh, well, why didn’t you say so!! Suddenly, the subtitle under Chris’ name will change from “Farmer” to “Independently Wealthy Agricultural Broker”. So, expect that little transformation.

    Second, someone stated that East Podunk was only an hour from a big city. That would be true if you consider Waterloo, IA a “big city”. Where I come from, that’s West Podunk, IA. The next “big city” closest to West Podunk is Madison, WI, which is 200 miles away. Madison is a nice college town. Supposedly a great place to live. But a “big city”? IDK, that’s kind of stretching it. Look, saying that Arlington, IA is anywhere close to any kind of city amenities is just patently false. You’re in the sticks. Completely. There are those that will sign up for that lifestyle & that’s great. To each, his own. But girls who want to get their 15 minutes of fame on a reality TV show do not fit that demographic. Let’s just be 100% honest about that. Chris is likeable and somewhat well off, at least by East Podunk standards. If that’s enough, then great. But it won’t be for any Bachelor contestant, unless they find one that fell off the turnip truck and somehow ended up at a Bachelor casting call. It should be interesting to see how they spin Chris’ season, presuming they continue along that path.

  26. rob22

    July 9, 2014 at 6:45 AM

    I’m going to amend my prior statement slightly. It looks like Cedar Rapids, population around 100K, is about an hour away. I would contend that Cedar Rapids is hardly an urban metropolis with big city amenities. So, it doesn’t change much about my comments. Des Moines is also a little under 200 miles away. Des Moines is more of what I think of as a big city. That’s going to be about 3+ hours away, which makes it more of a weekend trip, rather than a place you can just pop over to whenever you want to catch a game or a show. I just wanted to be factual & correct some of what I said. Still, Arlington is a very remote location. Whoever lives there is pretty much stuck in the middle of nowhere 95% of the time.

  27. angelfish

    July 9, 2014 at 7:22 AM

    Ben’s winery is in Sonoma, CA with a population of about 10,000 people, and is at least an hour from any metro place. Nobody seemed to care about his “winner” being stuck in the middle of grapes, grapes and more grapes.

    Maybe because it was Courtney….*LOL*

  28. amac

    July 9, 2014 at 8:04 AM

    I think I can answer the question as to why the drawn out hug at Chris’s house with cameras rolling on the floor:
    In commercials previewing the episode, it looked like Andi was hugging Farmer Chris and whispering to him a lament about the final conversation she had with Eric.
    When the actual episode aired, it was a producer hugging Chris, who looked like Andi from the back, and Andi was kind of hidden, sitting on the couch, making the same comment. Quick editing for a commercial, and yadda yadda yadda, it looks like Andi is hugging and seeking comfort from Famer Chris in front of the other guys. That’s my guess!

  29. rob22

    July 9, 2014 at 8:39 AM

    angelfish: I agree that Sonoma is small, isolated and an hour from a big city. But, because Sonoma is “wine country”, it’s considered a tourist destination. There are B&B’s, upscale restaurants and you’re about an hour from San Francisco, which is a true big city.. Also, you’re about an hour from the coast (Bodega Bay) and 3 hours from Lake Tahoe, for skiing trips or summer outings. Not the same as Arlington, IA and it’s proximity to Cedar Rapids or DesMoines. I do agree, though, that day to day in Sonoma would be a bit monotonous for a lot of people, me included.

  30. cjscjs711

    July 9, 2014 at 5:36 PM

    A town 100 miles away, I was talking about Cedar Rapids, Iowa. There is a large legal community there and Cedar Rapids houses a US District Court. From the reports I’ve heard, Andi left here ADA job in Atlanta and can’t get it back. So that courthouse is apparently through with her. When that happens to lawyers, they oftentimes move. Doesn’t matter that CR is also a sleepy town. Lawyers, especially young lawyers starting out, work long hours. They work, and then they go home and sleep, to go to work again. So once Andi has to get a job again. A real one. The support issue could be big.

  31. Gretchen

    July 9, 2014 at 7:17 PM

    I think it is notable that at Chris Harrison’s house, when they were getting the news about Eric, these 4 men who supposedly have strong feelings for Andi did not put an hand on her shoulder, say a word to her or show any direct form of comfort to her nor she to any one of them. It was like 5 strangers sitting in the room getting news. It was not until the crew came into the room that people embraced and expressed support to each other and farmer Chris seemed pretty wrapped up with a crew member….just saying. Andi did go to Marcus after he left the room so it is ironic that it was Marcus who she cut the next night. This “behind the scenes” unscripted peek at these “characters” shows them to be completely different than they appear in the edited shows each week.

  32. ellemcbee

    July 12, 2014 at 5:04 PM

    I’m laughing reading these posts…I live in Cedar Rapids (population more like 150,000 with the surrounding connected towns), and while it’s not New York City, it’s not exactly West Podunkville, either. We gots the internets, y’all! However, I did have to look up Arlington on the map…as a lifelong Iowan I had no clue where it was. FYI for major big city thrillz, lots of us head to Chicago, which is just under four hours away. I did make the recent mistake of living in a small Iowa town for a year (22,000 small AND in the middle of nowhere) and I can say this: never again.

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