Thank you for your coverage of yet another soporifically boring Bachelor season! I’m also looking forward to the Bachelorette twist they’re doing–and I’ll be interested to see how it plays out in social media. Personally I’m a Kaitlyn fan (as a woman, I find her much more relatable), but given the types of guys who get cast on this show, I have a feeling that they’ll fall like lemmings off a cliff for Britt. Kaitlyn is maybe a bit too down to earth and low maintenance for them.
But regardless of which girl the guys choose, I could definitely see a bit of producer manipulation happening in there somewhere–pushing some guys to vote for the “losing” girl, for example, just to create more tension. Or, if the “winning” girl chooses a guy who didn’t vote for her, having him confront her at some point or something, like, “I didn’t vote for you, I’m quitting.” My point is that there are so many ways things could go down that it’s fun to speculate.
Anyways, thanks again! As a long time fan, I continue to enjoy your site.
Comment: I mean, I think having the guys vote Kaitlyn also plays into the underdog role and America loves a good underdog. I think a lot of people think (as you’ve read in some of today’s emails) that guys will think with their d**k and just go off looks and pick Britt. Which immediately makes Kaitlyn the underdog.
Last night as I was watching the final rose ceremony, I noticed there
was snow on the ground and fields when Becca got out of the limo and when she was leaving. But when Whitney arrived, there was no snow in thefields, just a small pile in the driveway.
My question: How long does the filming for final rose ceremony take? Is it hours between the the loser and winner?
Comment: I haven’t gone back and watched, but the only thing I can think of is Chris in his People blog said right after Becca left, the sun came up. So from the time she left, til the time he was done proposing to Whitney, it could’ve been a good 4-5 hours that had passed and snow could’ve melted. I mean, they certainly didn’t reshoot it at a later date and it was definitely all done on the same day, so that has to be it.
I just have to say something that I know you already know (obviously!) but that I’ve completely caught onto from one of the recent contestants on Andi’s season of the Bachelorette. So to keep this as anonymous as possible – I live in the central PA region – and I watch ABC 27 news with Ali Lanyon every morning. I follow her on Twitter (as I do every news person, weather person etc. in the area) and she loves the Bachelor franchise. We all do – whether we like to admit it or not – it’s trashy TV at it’s finest Quite frankly, I enjoy your website every week more than I do the actual show, but that’s just a #realitysteverave for ya. After Andi’s season was over, Brian (the local Bachelorette contestant) has appeared on the show a few times. That’s obviously his 10 minutes in local celebrity-ville or whatever you want to call it – you’re awesome, we get it. I have just noticed recently an extremely obnoxious occurrence on my Twitter newsfeed from him already trying to make communications with this past season’s bachelor contestants & Ali tweeting trying to “set that up.” It’s just so ridiculous. My point is that you are right once again and when you say, “season’s over – it’s open season on the fresh meat of women from the bachelor” – you weren’t kidding! haha it’s just funny to me. Narcissism at it’s finest folks.
Love your site, keep it up 🙂
Comment: I think Brian hits a lot of them up. He had a thing going with Christy Hansen for a little bit. He loves being in Bachelor Nation. I think we can expect him on BIP 2 this season.
Thanks for another great spoiler season! As so many have said before, I wouldn’t watch the show if it weren’t for you. You bring the laughs and keep us all based in reality (There is an oxymoron for you!). My question is: Why don’t they start showing Episode 1 while they are still filming the show? i.e. Why wait until well after filming is over to begin airing episodes? Then they could do a live proposal show a month or so after filming actually ended. I know, I know, why mess with something that works. But still…
Comment: Because that’s not how TV works. The show has to air on consecutive weeks. DWTS has a set schedule where they are on every Monday night from next week, until the week before the “Bachelorette” premiere. It’s the way it’s gone for the last 5 years or so. Jillian’s season was the last season where the first episode aired while they were still filming. But the way the schedule is now, the show has just been done filming before they go to air. Although I will say, with this season of the “Bachelorette” ending somewhere between May 8th and May 10th roughly, and the premiere being on the 18th, it’s a quicker turn around than we’ve seen Jillian’s season I’m pretty sure. I don’t have all the premiere dates memorized but it’s usually been after the 20th when the show has started recently.
I know the guys are the ones who will choose between Britt or Kaitlyn, but I think producers will “stack the deck” in favor of Kaitlyn, because that seems to be the one that their key demo wants to watch (like you always say, when it comes down to it, ratings trump everything else). When Chris Harrison asked “Kaitlyn or Britt?” at the AFTR, the overwhelming majority seemed to be in favor of Kaitlyn; also, if you look on Twitter, Kaitlyn has about 60,000 more followers than Britt. I know these are petty examples, but I can’t imagine the producers aren’t paying attention to this stuff. At the end of the day, however, I agree with your point that people will watch regardless of who is chosen (and I highly doubt that the few who will “refuse to watch” if their favorite isn’t picked will make a dent in the ratings results).
What’s more interesting to me is this illusion of choice in the first place. Ultimately, the producers are the ones who decide what we get to see–the opinions we form about who we like/dislike is based entirely off of the edit that these people receive. That’s why I also think it’s funny when they pretend to ask for (or care about) people’s opinions when it comes to choosing the next Bachelor or Bachelorette. They edit these people to guide us in a certain direction, and while these edits could be somewhat true to their actual personalities, we’ve also seen plenty of cases where they turn seemingly nice people (e.g., Michelle Money and Courtney Robertson) into “villains” to add drama and spark controversy. Oftentimes, the Bachelor/Bachelorette is chosen because they’re a fan favorite, but they’re favorites because we’re seeing the side that producers want us to see.
That’s what makes the Britt situation really interesting to me–we usually don’t see contestants get the “Bachelorette edit” until later in the show (which kind of makes sense, because that makes it easier to position them as the “victim” when they get eliminated). With Britt, though, it was pretty much the opposite–I feel like they positioned her as a serious Bachelorette contender from the very beginning, and then around week five, things started to go downhill. I’m not sure why they chose to do this (maybe they had to establish some uncertainty around her “character” so that her mini-tantrum in Iowa didn’t look like it was coming out of nowhere). Then, you have Kaitlyn, who came across as really hard and “in your face” in the beginning, and while I think she’s hilarious, I’m sure her crude humor didn’t sit so well with the more conservative viewers. I think the producers probably realized that they’d catch heat for picking one or the other, so they just decided to leave it up to the guys. Plus, to your point, the unconventional format will help spark interest after Andi’s season got such bad ratings.
Bottom line/whatever the reason, viewers are crazy if they think that the producers/ABC are seriously considering what they want (especially since they basically told us what we should want in the first place).
You’re awesome! Thanks for another great season.
Comment: I agree. After that first episode, everything was about Britt. She stole the first episode from how much screen time she got. And knowing she didn’t win, it was just like, “Oh ok. She’s totally gonna be the Bachelorette.” Then the dynamic changed. Maybe more than the show thought it would. I mean, they knew they had footage of the girls not liking Britt and Britt sabotaging herself in Des Moines after not getting the group date rose. They couldn’t NOT show it. But once they did, then the WTA happened and they still went after her, it was tough to come back from.
But Britt’s aware of the perception of her. In this interview with People, she specifically says she’s the first girl to ever be in position to be the “Bachelorette” that was “controversial.” It’s true.
Kudos to you, once again your spoilers came true! (I never doubted you)
The last two things I want to say about this Bachelor season:
-I really respect Becca for staying real throughout the experience and not pretending or convincing herself that she was absolutely in love with Chris just so she would get the rose. Everything she was saying made absolute sense, about starting out long distance and letting the relationship grow. I mean, she’s known the guy for 2 months and hasn’t spent that much time with him. Plus in this case, she knows if he proposes it’s a package deal with the farm and Arlington non negotiable. Obviously, this kind of reasonable thinking is not at all what is expected on the show, and I think she realized that she probably shouldn’t have been on it in the first place. And she pretty much said that in her post season conference call.
-As for Whitney, well she seems sincere and she and Chris both seem happy. It’s just that she has such a controlling personality, I wonder how she’ll get along with her new inlaws (parents and sisters) once the honeymoon phase is over. Chris might be in for a rude awakening as well once she takes over his place!
So the big Bachelorette announcement…ouch, what an awkward moment it was! It’s clear that both Britt and Kaitlin are not happy with this situation, but are making the best of it. When they should have been beaming and giving the “I can’t wait for this new adventure to start” speech, they just had nothing to say at all! Kaitlin was trying to be funny as usual but it was really painful to watch.
I don’t know if you saw it too, but Chris H. only had eyes for Britt and barely talked to Kaitlin.
Also, I felt that Britt had this attitude like she was always going to be the Bachelorette, but she’s being a good sport and letting Kaitlin join her on the first day until the guys eliminate her and this all nonsense is over with…
And let’s be honest, all she needs to do is give each guy a nice big hug like she did with Chris S on the first night and Bob’s your uncle.
Please keep us posted on what you find out!
Comment: Will Britt cry before the first limo of guys even pulls up?
Love your recap each season. Is it just me or is there a total difference in Whitney from the season. During the season she was over the top all about chris and wanting to be the one. However now that they are doing the interview circuit she’s just kind of ho hum about everything and not over the moon about this guy. I was doubting your opinion about their inevitable breakup but know it seems like a sure bet in Vegas..maybe you can put some money down on it when your there next.
Thanks for all you do
Comment: I guess you can look at either way. I’ve had people say they look ridiculously happy together in interviews since. I don’t really pay much attention to what they say now because it’s their first experience talking together as a couple. They’re saying exactly what the previous 18 couples before them pretty much said. “We’re in love,” “we can’t wait to just be normal,” “we’re taking it slow” etc. Same ol’, same ol’.
On the After the Final Rose show, we learned that Chris and Whitney secretly got together in Arlington several times and were being “rule breakers.” My question is…..Are these rendezvous really unknown to the producers, or do the producers know about them or even arrange them? Chris Harrison obviously knew about them by bringing them up on the show. Thanks!
Comment: We know it’s happened with other couples, and I guess they realize they can’t control everything that happens. I’m sure they tell them now, “Look, if you are gonna have a secret meet up, just be sure you take every precaution necessary that you won’t be seen.” And I think most do since we know of 3 recent couples that met up “secretly” and that’s Ben and Courtney, Sean and Catherine, and Andi and Josh. Did those ever get spoiled publicly? No.
First of all… I’ll be the first to admit that I was a little worried this season about whether your reveal would be correct or not, but you did it again! Although I’m sad for Chris that he has to listen to Whitney’s voice for… well, the next 2 months that she lasts in Arlington. Although they kind of sound like chipmunks together – she when she talks and he when laughs. Am I right? Can I get an “amen?”
But what I really want to ask you about is Ashley S. I still think home girl has a little crazy in her, but I love her. And I love that she gave a big “screw it” back to the producers.
However, what do you think she’ll do on BIP? Do you think we’ll get to see the “real” Ashley or do you think she’ll be forced to/choose to keep up the persona? Like I said, I feel like there might be some crazy in there naturally, but in a brilliant kind of way.
Comment: I think that’s why they want to cast her for it since they know people will tune in to see exactly how she handles herself. Obviously by that interview I posted with the Auburn school newspaper on Tuesday, she’s not nearly how she came across on TV.
What are the top five seasons (Bachelor & Bachelorette) in terms of ratings/viewers? I’m assuming #1 is Emily’s season?
Comment: That I don’t know off the top of my head, nor do I want to go look for it because you’d have to Google each season separately. Could take a while.
Love your blog! Congratulations on another successful season!
I am sure you heard that Andi moved to NYC. I get it she wants a fresh start. Do you have any more info on what she is doing there? From her Twitter I see she is in touch with Sharleen who is in NYC as well. All I heard was fresh start and no real plans as of yet.
Also, just wanted to share with you. A while ago I made a mistake by subscribing to Sean Lowe’s blog Patheos. Well, I’ve been trying to unsubscribe from it for months now. Every time I hit the “unsubscribe” button, a message comes up that my email was successfully unsubscribed. But those Patheos’ emails still keep showing up in my mailbox (now spam) regularly. Just ridiculous.
Thanks for everything you do!
Comment: So basically Sean’s site is no different than any other site that you try and unsubscribe from?
I started reading your spoilers a couple of seasons ago and now I can’t NOT read them before each season. I really enjoy it and want to say congrats on spoiling another season correctly!
Questions that I have for you:
1. I see that you say you think Chris and Whitney will only last for 3 months max. I agree and have hesitations about their relationship lasting but was wondering if your opinion was based off information that you are privy to that the rest of America isn’t or it’s just your opinion as an “average” viewer? I just don’t see her fitting into that lifestyle, and I think Chris is not exactly who he’s portrayed himself to be on TV. I think he’s kinda loving the attention he’s gotten from this show and that’s not a good thing.
2. Which girls from this season do you see going on Bachelor in Paradise? My guess would be both of the Ashley’s, Carly, Jade, and maybe Jillian. I can see a lot of them on there. Don’t forget the Kaitlyn/Britt loser, Samantha, and a couple others I’m forgetting right now. Oh yeah, Megan. She’d do it even if she was still with Dak. She’d probably create a break up just so she could then go back to him when it’s over.
3. Which contestants from previous seasons do you see returning to Bachelor in Paradise? I have no idea at this point.
4. I think the ratings for the new Bachelorette season premiere will be off the charts because everyone will be curious to see who gets to continue on for the entire season. Depending on who gets selected to go on, do you think the ratings will drop off after that? Of course some people will watch no matter what but many people feel really strongly about one woman vs. the other (I am team Kaitlyn btw). I need to go look at ratings for each of the last 3 or 4 seasons. I’ll make it a job to have those numbers for you by the time May 18th rolls around.
5. I have seen numerous tweets and posts from previous season contestants like Molly, JP, Sean, Catherine, Des, Jillian (just to name a few) that are team Kaitlyn and really don’t like the idea of the duel Bachelorettes. Producers must know that some of these people have a pretty big fan base in the Bachelor world (Sean has 1/2 million Twitter followers) and let’s be honest, we know production will have a HUGE part in deciding which of the 2 girls will get to continue on. Do you think production takes any of the previous season contestants opinions into consideration? Yes.
6. Do you think Jimmy Kimmel will have a part in next season? I really enjoyed him being on the show and hope he comes back. As far as being in an episode? Probably not. Don’t think they’d do that in back-to-back seasons. But you never know.
7. I went back and read Britt’s bio and can sum up why people don’t like Britt and feel like she’s not authentic and why people relate to Kaitlyn better. Britt’s bio: What is your greatest achievement to date? “The children I sponsor are my most proud achievement. I am happy to put my money toward giving them a better life.”
Steve, I volunteer my time and money on a monthly basis to help a program which supports children with cancer but I would NEVER use their pain to glorify myself. If she was truly involved selflessly in an organization I think she would do a lot more than donate some money. And I am not saying that everyone that donates money isn’t good enough (because it’s great!), but don’t glorify yourself and your contributions when you don’t deserve it. Kaitlyn on the other hand answers what is your greatest achievement to date with “getting a dance scholarship and moving out of my small town for it.” A real, authentic, and relatable answer.
Thanks for all the spoilers!
Comment: Good point about Britt’s answer. Sounds incredibly self absorbed.