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Bachelor in Paradise 3

“Reader Emails,” Robby’s New Teeth, and Jordan Gets Hired

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Steve,

I don’t know if you had previously mentioned the Bachelors vs. Bachelorettes episode of Celebrity Family Feud. I want to throw out a plug for it if you haven’t watched, as history was made. Much like last year, they dumbed down the Fast Money round so that it is nearly impossible to not get to 200 points and win the money for your charity. Unless you are Ashley I and Andi, who became the first contestants in the history of the show (at least that I have seen) to not win the Fast Money round. Steve Harvey was in shock. It was amazing.

Comment: I watched it. And yes, that was hilarious. Not only that, but did you see what the last question was for the Fast Money Round? Name a color of apple? Well, there’s really only two answers to that question: Red and Green. Green I think drew 34 points and red was 63. So that was 97 pts in 2 questions they were essentially “guaranteed” to get, and they still couldn’t pull out 103 pts for the other 8 questions. Andi and Ashley had three zeros between them I believe. That was funny.
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Steve!

Congrats on another successfully spoiled season, I never doubted you for a moment, although I hate that you were right because Aaron Rodger’s brother is such a scumbag, no talent hack, and JoJo deserves better. Anyways, before the season started Josh Murray, Nick Viall, & Juan Pablo were all rumored to have wanted to be on JoJo’s season. Had all three been added to the cast, who do you think would have lasted the furthest, and what would the final four have looked like, in your esteemed opinion?

Comment: Josh. Former athletes. That’s JoJo’s game.
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Hi Steve,

What are your thoughts on Jordan moving to your city, Dallas to be with JoJo?

Comment: I can’t wait to greet them with one giant hug.
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Steve,

Love your site!

Do you think Hope, Robbys ex, will go on the Bachelor? She is beautiful and in Cali visiting Grants ex, Jen. Could she be auditioning? I don’t think so.

Also, are Andi Dorfman and Nikki (Juan Pablos’s ex) not friends anymore? I follow them on Instagram and they are never together anymore.

Thank in advance.

Comment: I don’t think so.
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Hey Steve, congrats on another perfect spoiler season 🙂

When Robby got out of the limo it was very bright outside, same as when JoJo got dumped by Ben. I know that once the lead rejects one person it’s a couple hours before the winner arrives. If I were a contestant, I would know that I lost if the sun hasn’t started to set yet, so I wonder if someone like Robby/Jojo knew they were going to be dumped before they actually did. Seems like the element of surprise is gone because anyone who’s paid close attention to the show before should know this. If they don’t know this by now, it’s on them.

OK, when JoJo told Robby that she always wanted it to be him, blah blah blah did the producers tell her to say that? Clearly it was always Jordan so this would make sense since the show tried to fool viewers into thinking she wouldn’t pick Jordan cause of the not asking her parents for her hand in marriage fiasco. I’m sure they did.

Do you have any idea if Jordan is still active on Raya? I wonder if JoJo bought his lie or not… I have no idea if he is or not. After that whole cover up saying he wasn’t, it’d be pretty stupid if he STILL hadn’t deleted his account. Because it was definitely open when he got back. And he definitely used it.

Lastly, will you be watching Olympics?

Comment: Here and there. I just can’t get excited for it anymore. It’s all corrupt.
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I love that you have an Oilers jersey on your coffee table. Made me smile being from Edmonton and a big fan!

Comment: Not for me. My nephew is 9 years old and a huge hockey fan. So he has jerseys of basically all his favorite/best players. That’s his Connor McDavid jersey.
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Steve,

I understand that people want to believe in the fairy tale of love that is produced for the audience of the Bachelorette. I also understand how people would be upset when you tell them the relationship is rocky and isn’t going to last. Many project that if this fairy tale relationship is possible, it could happen to them. So you are kind of crushing their dreams. Reality is sometimes hard to swallow. I’m a softy too, I wish it were true. But I’m also a pragmatist.

In JoJo and Jordan’s appearances in ATFR and subsequent PR shows, I thought it was pretty obvious they aren’t in post-fairy tale bliss. There were a number of cracks in the veneer that gave away the state of their relationship. Both being media-savvy, the inability to keep these suppressed is a pretty strong indicator of how bad it is.

The first clue was during ATFR when JoJo shushed Jordan while he was speaking. Not only is this rude, I only do this to someone if I’m really irritated with them. On Jimmy Kimmel they bickered about picking up his bed and how she preferred her bed. “Remember, happy wife happy life” she looked dead in his eyes and emphasized to Jordan. They talked about all of the things they argued about while sequestered in the “safe houses” during the Bachelorette airings. They performed pretty poorly in the game of how well they know each other. When talking about looking for a new house, Jordan complained about not being able to see the house they purchased in person before she bought it, and how the only glimpses he had of the options she gave him was tiny pictures on his phone.

On Live with Kelly, Jordan threw JoJo under the bus by saying he wanted to watch Peaky Blinders but she said “No” and he mimicked her ignoring him and texting. They also played a “Nearlywed Game”. Jordan’s answer for the last thing they argued about was “his stubbornness”. That does not bode well.

There was so much bickering and testimony of bickering, throwing each other under the bus on national TV, it’s not indicative of a newly engaged couple madly in love. They always say at the beginning of a relationship you are on your best behavior. Is this their best behavior towards one another in public on a national stage? For me, sadly, all signs point to a crumbling relationship. JoJo seems like a very kind-hearted girl, and I was hoping it would work out for her. Maybe they thrive on being “the Bickersons” and she’s very happy. I hope so.

Comment: Only a matter of time.
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Dear Reality Steve,

Who pays for the engagement ring on the bachlorette? Is it Neil Lane or ABC? Also do they give the contestants any kind of budget?

Comment: Neil Lane makes it and gives it to the show to use in return for free publicity.
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Hi RS,

Your site is pretty awesome. I love reading all the inside scoop and your insight. It makes everything much more enjoyable!

You’ve probably mentioned this before, but have you seen or heard of the show “Coupled”? It seems to be a bit like the new “Bachelor in Paradise.” Definitely has its rough spots but I do love the fact that the cast is somewhat diverse with latinas, asians, caucasians, and african american contestants as well. Obviously it’s not any realer than the Bachelor/ette, but I find that for me, as the Bachelor/ette gets more ludicrous and follows the same routine every season, Coupled seems to be a better alternative, if only because it’s different in concept.

Anyway, the finale airs today, and I’m guessing it will probably be canceled, but I just wanted to ask in case you happened to have any input.

Thanks!

Comment: I watched the first episode and was bored. Haven’t watched since. It didn’t help that it was on the same night as the “Bachelorette” and “UnREAL.” Just didn’t have time for it, and it didn’t interest me enough to record it and watch later in the week.
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Hey Steve,

Great job on another successfully spoiled season!!

I know none of this matters, but has anyone else commented on Robby’s exit being so anticlimactic?? It felt like they were both acting, and Robby was already aware he was being let go. He didn’t show any emotion, wiped away “tears” that weren’t there, and it was just overall so unbelievable.

When Chase and Luke were let go, way more heart strings were pulled. With the way Robby was with her family, and how expressive he was all season with her, I expected way more of a performance than what we got.

I miss the Nick Viall seasons 😉

Anyways congrats again and thanks for all of the entertainment!

Comment: Probably because I think no one cared about Robby.
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Hi Steve!

Love your site and have been a huge fan for years. I wanted to ask you if you have ever predicted that a couple would make it, and been right? I think you usually predict that they won’t last, and most of the the time you are 100% right. But, we have had a few success stories; did you ever think that was a likely outcome with those couples, i.e. Ashley and JP, Sean and Catherine, Des and Chris?

Thanks and keep up with good work!

Comment: I thought Ashley and JP had a chance. Definitely didn’t think Sean & Catherine or Des & Chris would get married, that’s for sure.
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Congrats on a successful season. These bachelorette seasons are tricky, but you prevailed! Do you ever do a happy dance on finale night? Haha.

Chad sh***ing his shorts wasn’t in your spoilers was it? OMG. The best surprises come to those who wait. Something tells me that scene was heavily edited.

I’m so glad that we will no longer have his arrogant mug on our tvs after next week. I can dismiss violent, drunk, aggressive and asshole behaviour, but I cannot stand those who are so unaware of themself to the point of delusion. I don’t get why people found him entertaining. In countries all around the world we are seeing the results of angry, violent young men. Prisons are filled with mal-adjusted individuals. Not to mention those committing domestic violence. And people see that as entertainment? Hell, if Chad looked like Evan, how much do you want to bet that it wouldn’t have been labelled entertaining? Serial killers can look like Chad Johnson and Josh Murray. Just saying. But hey, it’s the show’s fault. Don’t ever blame Chad for how he behaves. It’s everyone else around him. Never his fault. I mean, if people can’t take jokes about him calling them the c word then that’s on them, right? Just ask him.

Lace, keep your hands to yourself. It’s not cute to be slapping anyone.

I’m like a disease Daniel. Where does this douchelicker get off being so judgemental about women’s looks? Has he not looked in a mirror? You can keep him, America.

Are we sure that Jordan isn’t the gay one in the Rodgers family? The way he carries himself, the way he walks, he’s pinging hard. Gay celebs are usually the ones you hear multiple cheating stories about. Hmmm.

Jordan is not a good liar, his facial tics, licking his lips and looking away were dead giveaways. Hilarious to watch. Those icy stares of death towards Harrison were TV Gold too! Jojo seems like such a sweet person, she deserves a faithful, honorable guy. I hope she finds one, one day.

Comment: She’ll eventually learn. Just a matter of time.
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Hey Steve,

As always, great season of spoiling!

I was listening to the interview you did with the Here to Make Friends podcast and you gave spoiler-free characterizations of the three engaged couples. Since here we don’t care about spoilers, could you match up your descriptions of them with the different couples?

“eh, they probably deserve each other”
“obvious”
“one you never saw coming”

Do you think these are all Lacy and Marcus or do we have any Jade and Tanner’s on this season?

Comment: Obvious – Amanda and Josh.
Probably deserve each other (because they’re both crazy) – Grand and Lace.
Never saw coming – Evan & Carly.
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  1. kimmyfromdablock

    August 3, 2016 at 8:51 AM

    BIP is painful to watch and I’m always glad when it’s over since I feel oddly compelled to watch. All that has changed.

    I’m as cynical as all of RS’ readers, but last night with Chad’s comments to Sarah, put me over the edge.

    I deleted the season off my TiVo and went to bed shaking my head more than ever at ABC for getting into bed with this loser all for the sake of entertainment — now at someone else’s expense.

    You can also throw Daniel in the mix. What a box of rocks he is.

  2. jlal

    August 3, 2016 at 9:09 AM

    I agree Kimmy, ABC airing Chad’s offensive comments to Sarah was way too low. Chad has serious emotional issues and needs help. It is not funny or amusing to watch someone bully someone else. Daniel on the other hand is just an idiot. A not real bright, shallow, self-involved, chauvinist. They both think way to highly of themselves for no reason that I can see; ugly is ugly no matter the package.

  3. crushonspivey

    August 3, 2016 at 10:08 AM

    kimmy and jlal, the thing you guys are ignoring is that this is a very much scripted show. They might as well call it Bachelor Shore or Bachelor Hills. It is every bit as fake as Jersey Shore or Laguna Hills was. So Chad was just playing his role, and reciting his lines. And it is very obvious. Just call Chad “The Situation”.

    The show was better when it was Bachelor Pad. Was less fake. Was still fun and made fun of contestants, but at least had a real component to it.

  4. purplerayne

    August 3, 2016 at 10:30 AM

    ABC’s low blow was inserting Chad’s offensive comments in a voice over, making it appear he said them to the group/Sarah.And then to show his confessional from the following morning. It was clear from social media that Sarah (and others) had no clue he made fun of her physical appearance. WTF. That was just mean.

    I found myself REALLY liking Nick. I dont care that he wants fame and is now a wanna be model. He comes off level headed and charming. (wonder how Andi feels watching this show).

  5. justadumb1onde

    August 3, 2016 at 10:34 AM

    So I went on a rant, on the BIP page, about the blatant disregard of ethical behavior exhibited by BIP and Chris Harrison in ignoring the obvious mental health issues Chad is facing. Being the “Reality TV Guru” that you are, Steve, how real was Chad’s out of control behavior? My assessment is that it was pretty real considering he is not an award-winning actor!

    Does the show (and all of those affiliated with it), as well as the network, have no obligation to at least attempt to help this guy? He is clearly in meltdown mode. If there are known and obvious mental health issues with one of the contestants (Bachelorette) or “participants” (BIP), and the show perpetuates the problem (environment, alcohol, triggers, etc.) that the show could be held legally liable in the event of any up-coming disaster this guy may experience/impose on others (suicide, homicide–he sure talks about it a lot, domestic violence, just to name a few).

    I feel like episodes of “UnREAL,” such as the woman’s suicide, the police shooting, etc., could actually come to fruition on one of the above mentioned shows at this point. Where does the liability lie? The content has become concerning!!

  6. vessel

    August 3, 2016 at 11:41 AM

    I don’t understand people continually calling these shows “scripted”. Heavily edited and manipulated, for sure, but aside from possibly taking cues from producers and asking certain leading questions they want you to ask there is no script. Chad was 3 sheets to the wind drunk out of his mind. He could barely speak, much less form coherent thoughts. He wasn’t reciting lines from any script. He and Daniel are just stupid, and basically obnoxious as$holes. Hopefully someday they’ll have the appropriate amount of embarrassment that they ought to be feeling now.

  7. crushonspivey

    August 3, 2016 at 2:23 PM

    vessel, by scripted it means they are working off a general overview script but not word for word dialogue. The scene is set for them, the overview of conversations, what they want them to discuss. Then they add booze and throw in some twists. And even do reshoots.

    Lauren Conrad basically admitted this was how they did “The Hills” today, and is the model for basically all other reality TV as well.

  8. cjscjs711

    August 3, 2016 at 3:51 PM

    I think the word, “scripted” has become the catch-all word for the manipulations perpetuated on “reality shows.” They are not scripted in the traditional sense of having a typed script that the actors take home, memorize, and deliver in multiple takes with direction from a director. But, we know scenes are not as ‘organic’ as they are made to appear to the audience. We know contestants are manipulated, coaxed, coached, staged; not to mention the out of place voiceovers that are mixed and matched with different clips. Sharleen Joynt has said that even the “girl chats” are staged – that is, planned and set up by producers. Everyone pretty much agrees that alcohol is used to the fullest extent possible in drawing out whacky and other ‘out of character’ behavior.

    Is it fair for someone, captured on TV while drunk, to later say, “That’s not the way I am at all.”? I know I can recall many occasions when someone I know has behaved extremely differently when drunk – almost like a different person. I think people do bear responsibility when they know they do not handle alcohol well, yet they put themselves in a position in which they know in advance there will be free-flowing alcohol. Anyone who’s seen even one episode by this franchise MUST know there is alcohol flowing – lots of it.

    So—- when people say, “That’s not the real me,” should they be saying, “Yes that is me. That’s exactly how I am, at any time, under any circumstances”? I would say “No” to the latter.

    I haven’t watched yesterday’s BIP yet, but it sounds like Chad either overplayed or over-drank.

    Further, given all the manipulations, I think we have to be very careful about parsing out our own medical or psychiatric diagnoses. In 1964, professional psychiatrists tried to do it with Barry Goldwater, psychoanalyze him from TV and news clips (I was reading about this in an article about why psychiatrists are reluctant to comment on Trump). Their analyses were scathing and Goldwater sued them for libel; judge said even psychiatrists couldn’t accurately do it from this and Goldwater won the case. I really think we should appreciate that these people are willing to take the chance on these ridiculous shows of being made out to look like either a bland, or dashing, or sexy, freaky, or disturbed individual and we be somewhat forgiving.

  9. lucyw4

    August 3, 2016 at 4:50 PM

    Haha…I knew Robby got a new set of choppers!
    They look so fake!

  10. thedoctor

    August 3, 2016 at 5:20 PM

    I watch BIP to see boobs, not see someone acting like a boob. Between Bachlette, MTA and now BIP how the f can Chap been given this much screen time? If previews are to be believed he some how returns after being booted. Was there more than 1 minute devoted to the Jubilee/I forget his name date? I want tops coming off not guys shorts after he supposedly crapped himself.

  11. LM111

    August 3, 2016 at 8:57 PM

    BIP was just like UnREAL. I imagine how giddy the producers were when they got the soundbite of Chad talking about Sarah’s arm. Just like purplerayne said, ABC threw it in after the fact to look like he said it in front of the whole group. Bad enough that he said it at all, but come on ABC, that was a pretty disgusting move.

    Found myself extra annoyed at the Chris Harrison character. Quit pretending to be this gallant guy coming in to save the day when it’s obvious you’re loving every minute of the drama.

  12. LM111

    August 3, 2016 at 9:10 PM

    Oh, forgot to mention Daniel. Very average looking dude (face-wise) with a better than average body. Since I’m a “face” girl, I’d give him a low 7 on the scale of 1 to 10 (and yes, I’m being generous because he’s a flat 5 on face alone). Now add in personality for good measure and he becomes a 3 (we have to be honest here people, the body counts for something. No?).

    So… for him to talk about the women not being attractive enough when they were all out of his league… THAT was comical!

  13. lucyw4

    August 4, 2016 at 8:34 AM

    Haven’t watched BIP yet, but I agree 100% with your Daniel rating…3 is very accurate.

    His ITM’s were so awkward (on Bachelorette), as were his mannerisms…he’s a mess.

  14. RaRa

    August 4, 2016 at 12:57 PM

    Am I the only person in the entire viewing audience who didn’t believe one iota of the Chad over-the-top outbursts and behaviors on BIP? It seemed obviously staged from the get-go to me. My take on it is that they brought in Chad (the ‘roid rage guy) and Lace (the crazy chick) to orchestrate the “most dramatic opening episode ever”. I believe they offered him a free vacation if he would come in and act the fool for one day, after which they would send him home for his “rude” and aggressive behavior. Nothing that transpired made any sense at all. Lace and Chad yelling insults like some sort of demented foreplay, followed by heavy petting, more insults and put-downs, more making out, and then we are supposed to believe that he suddenly “went over the line” and started taking their sex play as real insults, and she stormed off in anger because he “disrespected” her? And then suddenly Lace is being pursued by the mad stalker whom everyone on the show is now afraid of? I didn’t see on single face that showed real fear, and never saw any genuine anger on ANYONE’s face. And then Chris showing up to send him home? Terrible acting. I loved last season but the first episode was so unbelievable it turned me off the rest of the season. I could cite more observations as evidence that the whole thing was obviously staged (as well as Daniel’s bad-guy play-acting also), but it’s just not even worth it for me anymore, after Tuesday’s “performance”.

    I’ll check back in when the next Bachelor starts filming. But I’m done this season with BIP. It’s too bad, since I really enjoyed last season. It may also have been completely manipulated by the producers, but at least it APPEARED somewhat believable.

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