Hey Steve – Did I just misunderstand what I saw/heard on tonight’s show? When the contestants were all gathered talking about the Josh/Amanda/Nick situation they showed Grant and Lace on the stairs (with Wells and Ashley) and Caila walked up, asking if everybody else was going upstairs. Lace dismissed her, saying they were talking and then turned and said, “I can’t stand…I can’t stand her.” Then the next thing is an ITM with Lace talking about Josh/Amanda. Was her “I can’t stand her” about Caila? Caila seemed so weird in that Amanda/Jen conversation. Like Amanda and Jen were actually talking and Caila was perched there like an awkward mannequin. I honestly don’t remember this specific conversation because there’s so much choppy editing on this show.
And really…that conversation with Ashley was what made Caila leave? Ashley didn’t do anything other than call Caila out on her lies and false promises. Caila is coming across like such a petulant, fake brat. I’ve never liked her, and this BIP season is making me like her even less.
Looking at the previews for tomorrow – thanks to your spoilers I know Wells chooses Ashley out of the three women – did he legitimately like Ashley, or was it more of a trying to hitch his wagon to the biggest fan favorite? Are they still dating at all or did that totally finish on BIP?
Comment: I’ve kinda been out of the loop on Ashley and Wells. My guess is they’re not all that serious. It’s tough for me to believe any of these BIP couples that go back to their life and have to do long distance aren’t serious. Ashley lives in LA. Wells is in Nashville. I’d be surprised if they were serious.
I have a few questions and comments for you.
#1. I find it very telling and interesting that everyone on BIP never refer to Amanda and Josh has “one of the strongest couples”. From what the cast (and from what you heard) everyone says they were with each other 24-7 but anytime people speak about who the strongest couples are they’re never mentioned. I guess that all depends on your definition of the word “strongest.”
#2. I also find it crazy that out of everyone on BIP Nick has been the voice of reason and I mostly agree with every observation he’s made and said. I guess we know why he’s been the show mouthpiece for the last couple weeks.
#3. I know in the past when asked about Nick you’ve always said you’ve heard way too much about him to change your opinion on him. And you’ve also said you heard stuff about Josh. I know you can’t go into details about what you were told but based off what you know/ hear who have you heard more bad things about..Josh or Nick? It’s a tie for first.
#4. I think this season the person I’ve been most surprised with is Lace. It’s crazy how different she seems then the way her edit was made on Ben’s season. On the bachelor she seems so timid and different where here she’s completely opposite. I think she looks worse now than she did on the “Bachelor.”
#5. I know once the bachelor/bachelorette starts filming or airs on tv you always get people emailing you and telling you about the contestants. Have you ever heard anything bad on Amanda. Either during Bens season or on BIP. ( and not from the cast but from people who knew her before she came on these shows). Yes.
#6. This season I’m having a hard time following where we’re at in the season because of these rose ceremonies (or lack of for that matter). I feel like they’re so randomly put in to the episodes. It may be just me. It’s definitely not just you. It gets confusing.
#7. Last question! How’d your draft go?! I grew up with a family who loved football but I didn’t start getting into it until few years ago and this year is my first draft I’ll be in. (My drafts Monday)
If I remember correct I thought you said you don’t necessarily have a favorite nfl team but do you have any favorite players?
Comment: I think I have a solid team, but I’m certainly not going to bore anyone by telling them who’s on it. Guess what? I don’t care who’s on anyone’s fantasy team, so I’m certainly not going to bore you with who’s on mine. It’s just hard for me to get fired up about fantasy football anymore. I’ll do it every year, but I’m certainly not a die hard that’s checking my score every 5 minutes on Sundays and on the waiver wire all week long and reading websites about it. I just can’t get that into it.
I’m a fan in general of the NFL. A lot of players I like watching. Too many to name.
Impressions of the show at this point:
Almost embarrassed by how much more likable Nick is now—particularly enjoyed his takedown of Josh.
Genuinely worried by how quickly Amanda gave in to Josh when she thought his outburst might actually threaten their relationship.
Even more convinced that Ashley I is mentally unstable and should not be cast on shows like this, for her own safety.
Thinking Grant and Lace probably need relationship counseling already (or in Lace’s case, Lithium)—which I’m guessing is a really bad sign.
Would recommend that the twins have much more separate lives if they want to be taken seriously as relationship material. THIS.
Watched Brett last night and thought Izzy was deeply stupid for dumping a decent guy like Vinny for such a turd.
Noticing that Jared’s unwillingness to really jettison Ashley I is a massive turnoff to Caila—makes him look weak—guessing she’ll lose respect for him over that.
Wondering if, surprisingly enough, Evan and Carly wind up becoming the one couple from here that actually lasts.
Comment: I can’t buy any of these couples long term, but I definitely agree with most of these.
Do you think there was a decent level of producer involvement convincing the twins to leave paradise and talk to Amanda the way they did since the season was winding down and it was clear they weren’t leaving with anybody…persuading them to be pawns to stir up more Josh/Amanda/Nick drama? Of course.
I had a hard time watching that and how upset Emily and Haley were just trying to say goodbye and trying to spit out their concerns to Amanda and Not thinking it was almost against their will or better judgment.
Plus they were left last to give out roses…maybe because they were wild card roses but probably because producers knew they were going to leave.
Comment: Nothing is done on this show without producer involvement, coercing, coaching, etc.
Do you think the twins sound like Taylor Swift when they talk? I think they even favor her when she wore her hair longer a few years ago.
Comment: Yes, I can totally hear that.
From what you’ve heard, are Carly and Evan faking it or at least temporarily interested in each other? I actually liked them as a couple from when you first put out spoilers because they each used “freaking” as an adverb so much on previous seasons. It’s the kind of thing that would annoy most people – but maybe not if they both do it.
And a fun contrast that I noticed last week: after that montage of the early cast members asking what “glib” meant, Ashley came in and casually dropped “disingenuous” in conversation. The girl is clearly smarter than she plays.
I hope your live session goes better this week!
Comment: I haven’t heard much about them other than they’re still together, as are all the engaged couples.
Unfortunately, the live chats are done for the foreseeable future.
Since the video chat didn’t work out last week, I’ll ask the questions that I submitted & wanted to ask via email:
What did you think of Christian & Alex during your interview? Christian was funny & had a lot more personality during the short interview than was shown of him in both seasons he was on. While I didn’t care for Alex on Jojo’s season, he seemed pretty cool & I respect his decision for not joining BIP, do you know who he’s dating now? I had fun with it. I thought Christian came off very down to earth and a normal guy. Alex was better than I thought as well. As for who he’s dating, well if you couldn’t read between the lines, he’s definitely interested in Tomi. But I don’t know exactly what’s going on there.
Izzie looked so much like Katie Holmes on the after show.. Vinny must have given her Tom Cruise vibes so she broke up with him, which must be hard to explain. Or she was scared shitless of his mother which is another solid reason to end Vizzie. Not sure what their status is now other than what we saw on TMZ. My guess is they’re civil, but not dating. Kinda like how Nick and Jen were. Well, until last night. That’s going to be the most interesting part of the finale next week I think. Exactly what has Nick been telling Jen this whole time post show? Or at least since he’s known he was gonna be the “Bachelor?”
Who was your 1st pick in fantasy & who would you’ve taken if you had 1st overall? Who’s your QB? We have an auction draft (which every league should do), so I didn’t really have a “1st round pick.” If you’re in fantasy football and you’re still doing a snake draft, you need to dump that and catch up with the times. Auction drafts are 10000% more entertaining. Snake drafts are outdated. The player I spent the most money on was A.J. Green.
Whataburger or In-N-Out?
Comment: In-N-Out. Not even close.
From this email on, a lot of Nick reaction as these all came in after 9:00pm CST last night…
Hey Steve, I hope this email gets in since I sent it pretty late. I actually decided to email you immediately after the Bachelor announcement.
Okay, I’m in shock like I think we all are. But here’s my crazy theory… Luke seemed like he was an absolute shoe in, and if he wasn’t, then Chase was the next option obviously.
Could the producers of this show hate Josh so much that they made Nick the Bachelor? Considering Josh/Amanda get engaged on next week’s show and that Nick has gotten a much more favorable edit than Josh. They didn’t cast Nick to spite Josh. I think people are reading too much into it.
Okay, I’m assuming you caught up with the new DWTS stars/pairings. Is this season the ‘trash’ season? Seriously, Ryan Lochte and Amber Rose? I get the whole Lochte thing for ratings… but Amber Rose? She’s know for two things: being a former bald stripper and Kanye’s ex. Yuck.
Comment: Same thing, different season. It’s very much like the “Bachelor.” Some contestants people hate, some contestants they love. Yet they’re always watching.
Would have been so much much more interested in watching Luke. Completely. Prob won’t watch now. Ugh. Buh Bye Bachelor.