PODCAST #407 WITH DOTUN OLUBEKO TRANSCRIPT
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up everybody. Welcome to podcast number 407. I’m your host reality. Steve. Thank you all for tuning in. First timer today. Dotton Albeco is joining me on the podcast and on my YouTube channel and you’re getting it early. We’ll hear from Dotton momentarily. So I wanted to discuss this interview and why it’s up early because I’m leaving tomorrow.
I’m leaving. As you’re hearing this, I’m actually leaving in the morning. That’s why I wanted to post it early because I didn’t want to have to worry about driving to the airport, parking. Checking in through TSA and having to worry about tweeting out and posting on my socials daily roundup. Sports daily and this podcast.
So the daily roundup was posted about 30 minutes ago. It should be in your feed. Sports daily was posted about 15 minutes ago, and now this is up and ready wherever you’re listening to this podcast, either Apple or Spotify. So yeah, good, good talk with Dotton. I was told I only had 20 minutes with him. We ended up going about 35.
So. So thank you to Dotton for that. Thank you to Bet US for putting this interview together and connecting Dotton and I to talk for the first time. And he was really good. You will hear him talk about his thoughts on Jen’s finale. He actually spoke to Jen right after she got back from filming. And you saw it in the teaser yesterday that I put out on my socials, but he’s like, yeah, yeah.
It’s not like she gave us any spoilers, but even right when she got back from filming, she was like, things are a little weird. So kind of goes to show that Jen wasn’t making something up on the show. On the, after the final rose live on Monday night, we talk about the fact that he was in a public relationship, how difficult it is, the fact that his fiance charity went on dance with the stars.
And we find out that. We found out maybe an hour before I recorded with Dotton yesterday that Jen was going to be on dance with the stars. And does that affect your relationship? Is there any sort of chance of breakups or hints of you might be hooking up with your partner and stuff like that? Was it difficult for him to watch charity go through her stuff with just being on the show?
And obviously being the hate that Charity got is Jen going to get that hate stuff like that from the dancing with the stars crowd because basically she’s not white and charity got it basically just for being a black woman and she has shared that publicly. She’s talked about it. She was brought to tears talking about it.
So I asked Don, what do you think about Jen having to go through that? We talk about briefly his time on charity show. How the fact that he wasn’t really a fan of everything. And then towards the end of the interview, just kind of out of nowhere, Dotton turns the tables on me and asks me, Hey. What’s your deal?
What do you, why do you do this? How did you start doing this? All this stuff. So yeah, it was a, it was interesting. It was a lot of fun. He wasn’t mad or anything and he wasn’t taking shots at me, but I had no problem him asking me. I’ve never spoken to him before and he wanted to know. We also talk about his future with charity, wedding planning, how that’s going, where they plan on putting their roots down.
Is it going to be in New York? Are they going to move? He answers all that really, really good interview with Dotton. So, check that out and it’ll be, like I said, you’re listening to this now, but you can also check it out on my YouTube channel at reality. Steve 24. And that was posted, I think it went live at 1230 a.
m. Central time or will be live at 1230 a. m. Central time. So, like I said, just wanted to get all this stuff out of the way on travel days. It’s always hectic for me and I don’t like doing stuff at the airport, especially now since my flight is a little earlier than it usually is. I usually fly out between nine and ten.
I’m flying out at eight o’clock this morning. And I just wanted to have all this stuff posted. So I don’t have to worry about that. Tomorrow’s daily roundup is going to be an interview with Kristen Bert, who is an on air host and also basically her main thing that she covers and what she’s an entertainment reporter that mostly covers, well, some soaps, but she also is big time and dance with the stars.
And she is quite a frequent guest on Cheryl Burke’s podcast. Kristen and I go way back. I mean, you’ll hear the story, but we, we definitely go way back. I don’t know why I didn’t think to bring her on before now, because she is very much dialed into what’s going on on dance with the stars. And I saw her on Cheryl’s podcast last week and I’m like, Oh my God, Kristen Bert.
We spoke years ago. So you’ll hear that story and Kristen will discuss the dance with the stars cast. I’ve got some questions. Obviously, a lot of us are wondering was Jenna last second ad. She addresses that how it works with the media, how she knew who the cast was earlier this week, or I think late last week.
She knew who the cast was, but they’re not allowed to release it until it’s official. Basically, it is embargoed until they ABC officially releases it. Good morning, America. And then they have their stories ready to go. Kind of the same thing with grant. When he was ready to go, media outlets were told, I think 30 minutes before he was announced as the bachelor so they could have their stories ready to go.
So yeah, that’s how it works. But yeah, Kristen’s going to come on the podcast tomorrow, recorded it recorded it today and that’ll be prerecorded. Like I said, I just want to get everything. I don’t want to record anything from my hotel room just because it’s too much of a hassle to be honest with you.
So that’ll be up my sports daily is prerecorded as well. So those will just be launching tomorrow and then Monday’s podcast daily roundup and sports daily will be recorded for my hotel room cause I don’t leave till Monday morning. So I’ll record those Sunday night and get those uploaded on Monday morning at their normal time, 7 30 AM Eastern time for the daily roundup and 8 30 AM Eastern time for the sports daily.
All right, let’s get going. Podcast number 407. All right, let’s bring him in. You saw him on charities season of the Bachelorette. He ultimately got down on one knee and proposed. They are still together a year later. It is Dotton Olibeko. Dotton, how you doing?
Doing great, brother. Living the dream.
Yeah, I hear you.
I first want to say right off the bat, a shout out to BetUS for connecting us on this interview. I’m really glad they did because. You and I have never spoken before today. And man you know, there were so many things I wanted to talk about. And then last night on the bachelorette I don’t know, you obviously went through a completely different experience.
You had a positive experience. You’re after the final rose was a celebration of your relationship with charity versus what we saw last night. Can you put into words what that was? What you thought of what happened in that finale last night
try not to try to keep my composure It was just yeah, I mean obviously like just a stark contrast So like what I think obviously the previous season was and taking myself out of it to like, you know Trying to not be biased regardless.
Yeah, it’s there was of weird things Obviously, I’m still kind of new to the bachelor world. I don’t have like A large history of like, here’s how things usually unfold. But from what I’ve been told, what I’ve seen, obviously I’ve been inundated with a lot of bachelor stuff in the last year or so, I feel like I have a decent handle on it.
But that just felt it’s a bit disjointed and, and obviously like sad, right, in a big way. And I just didn’t see any of that coming. Like, as you know, people in the world, like we hear things and generally we have some insights and some understandings before does. But I think even yesterday threw me for a loop despite the things that I didn’t know.
So I’m just hoping that everybody walks away from this as best as possible because there’s some pain coming, I think, in certain areas. So
Yeah, I mean, in the past when we’ve had breakups on this show before the after the final rose happened, they were pre recorded. We saw Rachel and Tino’s breakup, Becca and Ari in the past, but this was a breakup that had happened according to Jen roughly about a month ago.
But. She had to relive it live, you know, that’s the crazy part about last night We didn’t see a pre recorded breakup where it still would have been sad to see her and Devin having that talk whenever it happened if they would have done it in person at a happy couple visit But for her to sit there and be like, yeah This is the first time I’ve seen him since he broke up with me on a text like that is It was rough to say the least.
I thought I was like, I was like, Oh, you know, I’ll still talk about charity about this, but it’s like, it’s always two sides to every story. And so obviously we’re hearing Jen’s side first. And so we’re like, okay, yeah, like, of course, like, but I was like, Oh, I’m sure there’s going to be something else. Like, what’s the other side of the story?
And like, he just went out there. He was like, yeah, I didn’t do shit. I
failed you. I, you know, it’s just, look, you’ve obviously you went on the show, you got engaged on the show and then you had to begin a public relationship probably. And you, like you said, you were not familiar with this bachelor nation world.
You realize how crazy it is now and how, you know, addicted the fans get to you and charity and post more and show us this and show us that. And it’s just this balance of what you have to do as a couple. What do we want to give people? What do we not want to give them? And seemingly. It’s different because, as I’ve always said, the, the real relationship on this show doesn’t start until the camera stopped rolling, because that’s when you obviously get to know charity, obviously more, because when you’re on the show, you only get it if you get a one on one date, a group date after a party, a cocktail party, that’s like, you don’t get to text her before you go to bed, you don’t get to FaceTime her before you go to bed, like normal things that would happen.
When you first started meeting somebody, but you guys obviously have had a lot smoother relationship than Jen and Devin. The thing with them is hearing last night that the second they left Hawaii, he was being distant, wasn’t returning texts, wasn’t talking to her as much. That’s where it’s like, okay, now something seems way off because if they would have gotten off the show.
Yeah,
and they dated for one or two months had a couple happy couples and he just realized man The more I get to know her. It’s just we’re not vibing. It’s not working I think that would have been a little more understandable She’s just like the second we left you were a completely different person and that’s got to be what’s hurt hurts them yeah,
no that that I feel for jane, you know, and I actually saw her before season started filming after right after everything happened.
We saw her in Nashville for the CMA Fest and she didn’t like give any like crazy spoilers, but she told us how she was doing and you can tell there was something up. She was like, I don’t know, like things are kind of weird. She was like, I could say kind of vague but I couldn’t have imagined that. It’s just hard to believe.
And like I understand where Devin comes from, right? I always say this, like I got so lucky and I think anyone who has a relationship that works gets lucky because even if you pick the best person, you still have to be compatible, you know, like, and that can be so tough and you obviously everything’s change afterwards and there’s cameras on you.
That makes you make certain people at least act different and feel different. You know, everybody cries on everybody has a moment where their dad’s crying on the show, whether it’s The dad’s never cried. You know, there’s something about cameras that just brings out emotions that may or may not be there.
And so it’s just just kind of a shocker to see, like, how this all unfolded and like that. Nothing. It wasn’t even like, Oh, like a short, like, you know, Like, oh, the two weeks, like you said, like two weeks later, then things started falling apart. He was just like, I just didn’t usually there’s some time, but like, give me some brother.
So again, I can understand somebody like you know, like, realizing that’s not their person. You know, but because there is a strong compatibility component to making these relationships works outside and absolutely starts outside. But, yeah, I guess it’s like, again, those cameras, maybe Devin just really ate it up and, like, really just felt all these things in the moment.
And as soon as you get to real world, you’re just like. Like where Jared Freed had a good joke yesterday and he was like, shout out to Jared Freed. And he was like, he’s called him the dad bod Kane. He said, you give a guy with a good personality and a dad bod that he’s a 10, he’s gone, he’s gone, his head’s going to get big.
Cause I don’t know if that’s what happened with them. I haven’t met him. Seems like a decently guy, nice guy and I would, but and I wish him the best obviously is as a, as another F one is it’s put, but yeah, just kind of sat all around.
Yeah, it is tough. And obviously he’s taken a lot of heat on, you know, social media everywhere.
Like nobody is really siding with him and you know, nor I just, nor should they, like I said, if this was a one or two month relationship that just fizzled, I can totally understand that. But to hear now that he was out from the very beginning and Jen, like you admitted, you saw her. CMA fest, which was kind of right after the show ended filming.
And she was already having questions back then. It just proves that what she said on the couch last night was true. Like he just seemed like he had one foot out of the relationship almost right away. And that’s just, that’s tough to be in, in that position because. As she kind of reiterated all season, she wanted to go into this.
She wanted to find somebody. She thought she had it with that guy. And even at the end, when she was like, Jesse asked her, you know, you have any regrets? She’s like, look, that woman up there that proposed to him. I have no regrets about that guy because that’s the guy I fell for. I just never saw him after that day, basically.
And so, yeah, I don’t think she should be taking a lot of heat for falling for him because. What I saw Devin on the show, he gave her everything that she wanted, told her everything, first one to tell her he loved her, constantly was telling her, constantly reassuring her, and then to have a flip of the switch, the second the cameras stopped rolling, it just, that’s tough.
Here’s what
I’ll say, and then like, this was also a shocker, you know, is that like, I expected, so watching back filming is really tough. Yeah, right. It, it can be re and even for someone like me who had like somewhat clean, I mean, well, charity out here saying, I love you throwing out I love you, like Chris , like it’s candy, but it’s okay.
Like we get over it. But it, it, it can be so tough and I don’t know, it just obviously like you have to be ready to, to watch it, but I can’t imagine that. That couldn’t play a role. Right. When you think of the timing, if everything was good in about a month or two, that’s when it gets even tougher, right?
Less guys, more kissing, more emotions. And for someone who has loved bombing her the whole time and her just kind of being like, I don’t know, I can totally see how that could have like changed and impacted relationship, but he didn’t mention it. So I don’t, it’s like, that would have been something to mention, you know, like, at least I would have just thrown that out there.
Like, Oh, it’s hard to watch. You’re just like, yeah, I don’t know.
They finished filming, May 16th was the final Rose ceremony, her first episode didn’t air until July 8th, so they had from, they had a month and a half before the first episode ended and it seemed like he was checked out before he could even see anything and any connection with Marcus or whatever, so you mentioned it when you were on Charity’s season, like, did you watch all the episodes, did you watch them with Charity, was it tough seeing her with Joey, like, you and Joey obviously are close, you guys are boys, But was it still tough watching it back?
Even though, you know, like, Hey, in the end, I, I’m the one that got the girl. I’m the one that’s engaged, but it’s gotta be awkward watching it back.
Yeah, definitely. I like to think I’m, you know, like pretty confident in who I am, but it, in the beginning it was kind of fun and silly even watching her kids.
Like I’m like, whatever I get, I know what I signed up for, but yeah, towards the end when the feelings get real and the thing is charity. to compare with like Jen, for instance, like Jen was like Much less emotional. Right. So you’re like never, she’s like, dang, I don’t think I saw a tear roll down her face.
She was just like, okay. Like she’d break up people and she’d be like, okay. And so like, but charity is the total opposite where she will fall in love. You know, I love her, but with a rocky, right. If it says the right words to her. And so it became tough because I know that she’s pouring her heart. These other relationships and obviously Joey, you know, it’s a weird love, hate thing where you know, that, that truly my boy to this day, one of my best friends, I’m so happy for him to be happy.
You’re going to be more deserving for everything he’s gotten. But yeah, it’s obviously tough. You’re like, you’re like, you know, like, why did you say like, I thought I was, you know, so it’s, it’s very, very hard to me watched. So from together, I’ve watched pretty much all of them. I think the only one I didn’t watch all the way through, which I actually think I watched it later on, like a few, a couple months after it ended, but it was the fantasy suite.
So the fantasy suites during while it was airing, I watched like the first, like 15 minutes. I think I maybe just watched my portion and then I didn’t watch the rest, but a few months later I revisited it because I’m stubborn and I need to close books and close chapters. And it was much easier to watch.
Obviously at that point I was pretty secure.
Now, something that was announced this morning, you obviously knew, and it had been rumored for about a few weeks, that people, it was around the internet, that Joey was going to be on Dance With The Stars, but it was announced this morning that Jen was announced.
Seemingly, it was a last second addition, but good for her. I mean, obviously she had that embarrassment that happened to her last night, kind of got humiliated on television, being forced to watch a proposal back to a guy who basically didn’t give her the time of day after they left the island. But, you She gets dancing with the stars.
So ultimately she wins in the end, but this is something that you had to go through with charity after your season ended, she gets dancing with the stars. And so. Even though Jen’s not in a relationship, talk about your post show. Cause right after charities finale aired pretty shortly after that is when she went into dancing with the stars, right?
So you couldn’t be a public couple because she was basically now filming another show. How hard was that for you? Was it difficult when she’s practicing hours upon hours on hours? And what’d you do to entertain yourself? Did it put a strain on your relationship? I know former couples have said. It was very tough and it wasn’t easy in the very beginning because of this.
Yeah, it’s so funny. I’ve realized this throughout the year that there’s there’s all these like, like rules to bachelor world and bachelor nation. And like, this is one of them is that like, don’t do dance with the stars. It’s horrible to break you up. I mean, I, having my experience, I, I, in some ways can understand how, but that’s usually going to be that person’s probably going to break up anyways.
Like there was not really a particular. Reason why Terry and I would have broken up during that time. I will say the one thing that I think you probably have to do right is live together and have proximity because yeah, you don’t want to go from maintaining a long distance relationship and then the other person being.
Super busy, right? Especially if the, you know, the person who was chosen has their job still full time. The other person is doing the stars. You’re not going to talk so easy to follow love. So, I will say that I will say that if you can be in close proximity with them, be with them during that time, that does increase your success rate quite a bit.
And I think it just becomes a regular relationship at that point. I don’t see how. Dancing with the stars, particularly it’s something about the curse that can impact it. You’re, you’re probably doomed if that was going to be the case, you know, at some point it was probably going to end. So, it was just more tough for her.
I was just like, I was obviously just there, like in LA, like it’s a cool place. We get a car, my old stomping ground. So I had a good time but it was tougher charity. So I was just kind of there for her and just supporting her. Cause she had to deal with a lot of bullshit and with the fans, which are somehow worse than bachelor.
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, there’s dance with the stars fans. That’d be rough. And, and, you know, and you wonder now, you know, with Jen, you know, Jen is you know. A BIPOC contestant, is she going to get the same heat that, that charity did for no other reason. And it just, this is like, you hope she doesn’t, you hope she doesn’t have to deal with what charity dealt with, but you just never know with the fan base, you know?
Yeah. I mean, I’m hoping it’s a little bit less just because, you know, I think that the fan base is, is like so low IQ that they’re just like, look, he looked like me or she looked like, and that’s like, all they go off of. Does that make sense? I’m hoping that Jen is a little bit more along the path of. Then being able to relate to her.
As opposed to like a black woman where it’s like, obviously that’s not you. But I hope not, but obviously some of it’s going to come 1000%. Right. She should absolutely be prepared for that. I feel like gender is pretty good at handling online criticism, though, for the most part. I don’t seem to like get to you know, caught up in it this season.
I don’t know, though. Maybe she has, but I haven’t seen it.
Yeah, I think she’s, she’s handled it. Well, she’s mentioned a couple of things. She’s put out a couple of negative DMS that she’s gotten about agent representation and stuff like that. But it seems to be like, Hey, you know, just be better people. I mean, that’s, that’s all you can do is just tell these people to be better.
Trolls are going to be trolls. I even, even by saying be better, is it probably going to get through to a lot of, to those people who want to do it, you know,
if they want to
be a troll, they’re going to be a troll.
It’s just a cycle. Yeah. I’m not happy for her though. I, I, I’m happy for her. I know that this is I believe that it’s something she really wanted, you know, through the grapevine.
And so, I think it’s a, it’s a good consolation prize for her for a, B, C .
