You are listening to the Daily Roundup here as part of the Reality Steve podcast. I am your host, Reality Steve. Thank you all for tuning in on this Tuesday. Good show for you today. A little update on Luca, but we’re going to talk a lot about podcast. Yesterday, part one was revealed. Or downloaded or posted, whatever you want to call it.
And we’re going to go over some of the stuff that she said doesn’t really change anything in terms of what we’ve all thought about Devin. And what I said, literally the night the finale was airing, he conned her. There’s no other way around it. He conned the woman. I don’t even know if I care to hear his side of the story.
And this isn’t just, Oh, you’re not being fair. You’re a man hater. No, I just, there’s been too much stuff out there and I just don’t see it. There’s no point to hear from him at this point. Also going to talk about stuff that came up over the weekend regarding Jen and Jonathan. And we lose an icon in the movie world.
We’ll get to all that momentarily. So I wanted to talk about this right off the bat. I want to thank everybody who emailed me yesterday in regards to the Lucas story that I told. I’m picking her up today because I didn’t get back till later last night. And you can only pick them up before five o’clock.
And I got back after five. So picking her up today, I did. Talk to the ER vet that treated her on Saturday yet again, and didn’t need stitches, wasn’t a puncture wound, really. Well, I guess they did call it a puncture wound, but they said it was very small. But I asked, so how long do I need to keep the cone on?
And they said, well, basically after about three or four days. On something like this. That’s when the healing really begins. And you definitely want to keep it on then because you don’t want her to screw up the healing of her eye, which would be basically today. Cause it happened on Saturday. So today would be three days out.
And they said overall, probably seven to 10 days. You need to leave it on, which is fine. I talked to the doggie resort where she’s at. And they said she’s seemingly doing great. She has no problem taking her eye drops, no problem taking her anti inflammatory medicine, and she isn’t really having much of a problem with the cone.
So that’s good to see and good to hear. And I’ll, you know, I’ll get her today and I will update you more tomorrow, but I still have not seen her. So I have no idea how bad this looks. I was told it was getting better and it just was kind of a deep, somewhat deep laceration on her eyelid. And that’s what it became.
So I will update you once I pick her up today and see how she acts the whole night. So. Let’s jump in to the Jen stuff because she went on the bachelor happy hour podcast yesterday and was very open and honest about stuff going on now. What was going on then the red flags that she saw in Devin that she basically said, I should have paid more attention to these.
Here were the biggest quotes put together by bachelorette windmill on Instagram. I did not listen to the interview, but these are direct quotes from it. And that’s, you know, when I don’t listen to a podcast, I need somebody to give me direct quotes, not summarize it for me. And these are direct quotes that Jen had first.
She said there were so many key moments. I should have paid more attention to after we got engaged. He asked the producers how long people usually stay together. I thought that was weird. The other red flag was during fantasy suites. We talked about where we’d move and we said, Callie, I told my friend that.
And when she told Devon, I said that he said he wasn’t happy. I told my friend that and didn’t want to do that. He would go missing for 18 hours a day sometimes. And I would think he got into an accident and he would say it was because he was introverted. He didn’t plan dates or even want to talk on the phone.
My biggest fear is, did he just want to win the show? He even told me. I didn’t want to get engaged. I just wanted you to myself and was selfish. So I proposed, she went on to say, among other things, I don’t know who he is as a person to this day when we were still together, he told me some days I wake up and I just don’t love you.
We decided to go to couples counseling and then he called and broke up with me before we even went, he told me he had doubts the whole time and he felt pressure to get engaged. He said he should have just went home the day he came to my room on the show and asked for reassurance. Every Monday night was the worst night of my life.
Meanwhile, he was posting memes about the show every week. He was out with one of his ex girlfriends at the same time. He was telling me we could work on things. He was making out with a girl three weeks before the finale. He was missing for days at a time. And now there’s this X in the picture. I got a DM after the show telling me to watch out for this girl being with Devin.
Oh my God. There’s a so much there and we don’t need to dissect every single thing that she said. I mean, she just laid it out for everybody. And it’s just further proof all we were hearing behind the scenes and obviously I’ve shared some stuff with you that I heard nothing but negative things about Devin, which was the guy is no way going to get engaged on the show.
They were shocked when I reported he was the winner and got engaged. They never believed for a second he would end up getting married to Jen was never going to take it seriously. And they were just wondering, I wonder when this is all going to end. Was basically the vibe that I was getting, but there have been times where I’ve been told that about the past while the show has been filming about a contestant and things ended up changing and you know, maybe this show knocks some sense into them and maybe they came to the realization that, wow, I got a great woman here, or I got a great man here.
Let me do this right. Obviously that didn’t end up being the case with Devin and. Like I said, the night of the finale, watching it all play out, watching what Jen said on the couch from the second we left Hawaii, it seemed like he had one foot out the door hearing now even more details from Jen. He conned her.
There’s no other way. It sucks, but he. Everything I was told about this guy was dead on. He was never in this. He was on a show that he knew nothing about, and he was doing what he could to win to just say, I woke up some days and not feeling like I loved you anymore. You can’t just chalk that up to, well, when I was on the show, I had these really strong feelings, but now that we’re off the show, I don’t.
Well, if you kind of read between the lines there, the reason why you don’t have those strong feelings when you’re off the show is because. Is because the feelings that you had on the show were never real. And you’re not emotionally intelligent enough to even understand that he played her. He was out to win a contest.
There is no clear answer about all of this. Do we need to hear from Devin? Do we really need to hear his side? Does he need to go on a podcast like Nick’s? Unless his only statement is, I absolutely had no idea what I was getting myself into. I thought I fell in love with somebody on the show, but I never really did.
I screwed the whole thing up. I apologize to Jen. I’m going to see myself out the door now, unless we get something like that. I don’t want to hear from this guy. I don’t need to hear from this guy because anything other than that answer is complete bullshit because everything that he’s done post show has proven that he was never serious about being in a serious long term relationship with Jen.
I said it. When I went on Dave’s live right after the finale aired, I said it on my podcast the next day, if Devin would have done a one or two month relationship where he said things were great between us, we had our happy couples, we enjoyed each other’s company, and then things just fizzled. That would make so much more sense because that’s more of the norm when it comes to final couples on the show because you don’t really know them while the show is filming.
You get to know them. The more time you spend with them when the cameras aren’t rolling after the show, that’s when the relationship starts. But to hear that it never even got to that point. And she was like, he’d go 18 hours without responding. That just proves he was never serious. That has nothing to do with, Oh, I just woke up one morning.
I feel like sometimes I don’t love you anymore. It seems like he never put out any sort of effort to even try to see if he was in love with her. That’s what I mean. That’s why he’s a fraud and saying anything other than. I screwed the whole thing up. I was never into her. This was about winning a television show.
I did what I had to do to win, but I had no idea how this show worked, how this fan base worked hell. The fact that Jen admitted he asked producers after the show, how long do couples usually last? After this thing, holy shit. I mean, and look, I’m not going to jump down Jen’s throat at all for being like, why didn’t you just dump them?
Then Jen, clearly this guy wasn’t into it because she was trying to see the good in somebody. Maybe it was, you can’t get mad at her. Now, because I guarantee a lot of you listening have probably been in relationship, you tell me that every single relationship, if you’re listening to this right now, every single relationship you were in, when someone showed red flags, you didn’t immediately try and dismiss them or make excuses for them or.
Try and justify them how I’ve done it. We’ve all done it at some point. Now, if you keep doing it over and over and over and over and over and over again in relationships, that’s an issue, but we don’t know Jen’s relationship history other than what she’s told us, where she’s gone for emotionally unavailable men.
Yes. Devin seemed to be emotionally unavailable. This was something new. Maybe, maybe you’re holding out that hope that maybe, well, this is different and you make excuses for them. I’m not mad at Jen for not dumping him. The second she found out, he said that I’m mad at her for not dumping him. First, just kind of goes to show me that Jen was really trying to make this work.
I can’t fault somebody for trying to make a relationship on this show work, knowing Then it’s a public relationship that a lot of people care about. So I think this could have all played out differently. If Jen would have dumped him right away and Devin gets on the, after the final rose and says he could have easily turned it around and said, I tried to make it work and she dumped me right away.
When she heard I said something, I think Jen could have gotten a lot of heat for that, which would have been brutal. And I don’t think it would have been deserved, but I’m saying, I know the way this fan base works. There’s really not a lot of nuanced conversation when you’re talking about the bachelor nation fan base.
It is black and white. Everything in their lives is black and white. When it comes to this fan base, there’s no gray area for this one. I can totally see why Jen wanted to try and make this work. What’s wrong with that? She tried to make it work. Yes. He was showing red flags, but I think it just kind of shows.
Yes. She’s a very empathetic person. She’s very compassionate. She’s trying to make it work. This isn’t some sort of ass kissing to Jen. I’m saying if anybody does this, I totally understand it when it comes to this show. So I’m not going to get mad at her for hearing all this now and being like, Oh, what a dumb ass.
She didn’t, he gave her all these red flags and she didn’t take them seriously. No, I totally get it on her part. Try to make it work. She really fell for this guy because of what he did on the show. Totally love bombed her to death. And then here he is pulling away and you’re like, okay, maybe it’s just, he’s a little scared, but she didn’t have the information that was floating around on the internet.
While filming was going on, the things that were being sent me about him. She didn’t have any of that information to go off of. So when she gets off the show, every couple probably deals with somebody mentioned mentioning them or DMing them and saying, Hey, I know this guy and he did this, or I know this girl and she did this and it’s just, you can’t, you, you have to knock all that out and be like, no, I’m going to focus on the person that I fell for during filming.
I can’t just keep bringing up like every time Jen got a DM or got some sort of note sent to her regarding Devin or a past or an ex or something like that. My gosh, it would be tiring to constantly bring that up to your partner because it’s so easy for them to be like, Oh, so you’re going to believe those people over me?
Like I get it. Because it’s a very tough position to be in. You’re newly engaged to this person, yet you’re getting all this info from strangers on the internet. You don’t know what to do with it. Because if you confront your significant other with it, you confront your new fiance with it. They can easily throw it back in your face and be like, don’t pay attention to that stuff.
You as a person, as a human having emotions, you’re going to get to a point where you’re like, but gosh, everyone keeps saying this. I, it’s a very, very tough position to be in. I don’t envy anybody. That has to deal with that. Because what do you do? Do you constantly, if she got something every day for a week, seven days in a row, Devin, I got this sense sent to me.
What is this next day? Devin, someone else sent me a DM completely different. They said this about you and you did this. What do I, what do I think about this? Devin would probably be like, I’m probably at after a while, I’d probably be like, I’m out of here because then he’s like probably telling her don’t believe that they don’t know us.
We’re strong. And then she just has to believe it. So it. Tough position of being like, I know it’s easy sitting back Monday morning quarterbacking from bachelor nation on the sidelines, put yourself in that position, newly engaged, fresh off a television show. You’ve been away from social media for two months.
Then you get all this stuff thrown in your face. If you immediately side with the stuff being told to you, Then your new fiance is going to be like, well, this person doesn’t even want to be with me because they’re immediately believing strangers. But if you bring it up to them and they tell you, don’t you need to ignore that stuff, you’re still going to sit there as the lead being like, okay, but it’s very hard to ignore, very tough conversations to be had for sure.
