PODCAST #411 INTERVIEW WITH TARAN ARMSTRONG TRANSCRIPT
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What’s up everybody. Welcome to podcast number four 11. I am your host reality. Thank you all for tuning in a great episode for you today. Talking to Taryn Armstrong of Rob has a podcast. We know that there’s a lot we have to talk to him about considering tonight eviction night two hour episode tonight.
Probably chemo going home, but you never know what can happen. But we talked to Taryn about that. Taryn is obviously someone we have on once a year and he knows a lot about big brother. He brings up some points to me that I hadn’t really thought about this year and combinations of who could possibly beat who in the final.
So. Look forward to this conversation with Taryn on your Apple podcast feed, Spotify, and this is going live. Remember at 9 15 a. m. Eastern time on my YouTube channel at reality, Steve 24. So we will get to Taryn momentarily. A couple of things I want to talk about before we get to Taryn. I am recording this open in about five 30 in the afternoon.
So. I have not watched any of the shows I’m going out tonight. I usually don’t go out during the week, but good friend is in town performing at the Addison improv. Jen Sturger has been a former two time podcast guest on this podcast and want to go see her perform standup tonight. So I am leaving in a little bit.
So I wanted to get the open and the close for this podcast recorded. So I haven’t recorded the daily roundup just yet. I’ll do that one when I get home, but there are, there are a few things that I definitely want to correct because, you know, when the bachelor releases the women for. Grant season on the bachelor Facebook page that is only up for about three days and they take it down.
But you know, all the women’s name, you heard the podcast yesterday. You watched my YouTube live stream on Tuesday night where I showed you the picture and video of the 10 women left. Well, the one thing is we haven’t seen these women on screen yet. We haven’t seen them talk. We haven’t seen Jesse say their name or grant say their name.
And apparently I mispronounced three of the 10 women. I mispronounced their names yesterday. I called. So, a L E X E. I called her Alexie. Well, it’s just Alex. So, I apologize to Alex Godin. I pronounced L I T I A Lydia. It is Latia. So I apologize to Latia. And trust me, once this show starts airing, or once I start talking about them more on my podcast, I’m probably going to screw it up because it was in my head for the longest time.
It was Alexi and Lydia and the other one is, I called her Carolina, it’s Carolina. Did I call? I, you know what? That one I thought I called her Carolina yesterday, but again, like I say every podcast, like I say all these things every day on my podcast, but when you record record 11 in a week, you don’t remember half the shit you say.
And I certainly don’t remember half the shit I say. So it is Carolina. I will try my best when I’m talking about them in the future to get their names right and pronounce it the right way. But I guarantee I’ll have a screw up here and there, but if I say it enough, Alex, Latia, Carolina, I should be able to commit that to memory.
There might be a slip up here and there, but just know that As well, because I, and I, as a, as of this recording, got no information on what happened in Madrid yesterday. So the only thing we know is the 10 women that were there. And we know that Dina got the first one on one in Madrid rose ceremony.
Number four is tonight. My guess is it’s probably going to go from 10 to eight. And then we’re going to go on to the next location, probably go eight to six and then the location after that, which would be episode six would go from six to four. So I will keep you updated on anything I hear. I don’t know the next location that they’re headed.
The second I say that I might hear something because on Sunday night I had no clue where they were headed and I know that they had already left the country. And then on Monday I get all this stuff. Oh my gosh, here’s a picture. Here’s some videos and here’s Grant on a one on one on one date with Dina.
So hopefully I’m putting it out into the world. I’m manifesting it. So now that I say right now, I have no idea where they’re headed next. Maybe somebody will tell me, or maybe somebody will see them. But yeah, the only pictures and videos we got was of the 10 women arriving in Madrid at Plaza Mayor that I showed you on the video and it’s on my social medias.
It’s on my Instagram highlights. It’s on my Twitter feed and we got the picture as well of them sitting at the table. So we’ll see. Maybe I’ll get some more information, but after that, nothing happened. We didn’t get any pictures from the group date. I didn’t get anything yet as of me recording this on Wednesday around 530.
I didn’t get anything about yesterday’s one on one date either, or I guess it possibly could have been a two on one. Joey had a two on one with Maria. And who was the other one? Not Leah. The blonde one. Why am I forgetting her name? You all know who I’m talking about. See what I mean? Like I just blank sometimes on stuff that should be pretty base.
Oh, Sydney, Sydney, Sydney and Maria had a one on one in episode four last season. So is it possible? Yeah. But with only 10 women left, probably not anyway. So I wanted to I just wanted to get that out there and I just want to jump right in to this interview with Taron Armstrong as we talk about Big Brother going into tonight’s eviction episode.
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He’s got a Twitch stream. He’s a YouTuber currently giving the daily updates on the BB live feeds. Multitime guest on this podcast. It is Taryn Armstrong. Taryn, how are you doing?
I’m doing great. Happy to see you again, Steve.
Yeah. And obviously for the occasion had to wear my janky world t shirt that I just got from CBS or Paramount plus or whoever the hell I ordered it from came in like three days.
Not bad. Very excited about this because you probably haven’t heard this when janky world first started to me, I was just like, get this off my screen. This is so dumb. And the more they sang the song and the more they danced and the more they were annoyed by it, the more I thought. This is genius. I absolutely love it.
I want them to stay there the rest of the season. And I want janky world to be a part of BB going forward every season. Like I thought it was, I literally did a whole one 80. I said, this is so stupid. I hate it too. This is hilarious. I think it’s funny. So I’m
happy to have that perspective because it’s somebody who has to pay attention to the live feeds.
It was miserable.
Yeah. I can imagine having to play
noises alone.
I can imagine like you. I mean, obviously you cover the show and you have been for a while, but how much would you say of the live feeds? Do you watch in a given day? Average.
I mean, it really, it really depends. You know, like right now there’s not a whole lot going on.
There’s not a lot that we need to pay attention to at the beginning of the season, it’s, it’s nonstop, you know, there’s stuff happening every minute. So, it’s, it varies quite a lot.
All right. So I want to get your take because you’re more dialed into this show than I am because you’re on the live feeds because you do.
Pretty much daily shows. And you cover this about as extensively as anybody else out there on the internet. I follow along, haven’t watched any of the live feeds this year, but I follow along on the BB daily updates. So I have an idea of what conversations took place and whatnot. And they, and just scrolling my for you page, either on Tik TOK or even on Twitter.
The amount of conversations that I see and opinions that people give about this season. I, it seems like it’s mixed about the overall view of this season. Like I’ve literally seen people say, absolutely love the gameplay this season, bringing us back to old school, big brother, big brother. And then I hear people saying these five are the worst final we’ve ever had ever.
And it’s some of the worst gameplay. I, so I don’t know what to believe. I only go back to season 21 when I started watching. So I don’t have a lot of perspective on it. Where do you kind of rank this and do you see it as a strong final five? Okay. Final five or. These guys are terrible.
I mean, it wouldn’t be a Big Brother season if people were declaring it either the dumbest or smartest cast of all time.
So not super surprising to be hearing that. This has definitely been I think it’s it’s interesting because you know, obviously some people love Good strategy. Some people love good drama, and sometimes those can feel mutually exclusive. Luckily, Big Brother 10 exists. But this season definitely leans more heavily on the good drama of it all.
The the strategy this season has been a bit lackluster, but in a fun way. Where like the veto has been used almost every single week. There’s been power shifts, there’ve been different people winning competitions and taking shots and making really dumb moves and screwing up and regretting it and crying cause they screwed up so bad.
So it has felt a lot more like old school, big brother. Quite frankly, old school, big brother strategy wasn’t quite as developed as it was now. So that can be a good thing. It can be a bad thing.
So you mentioned the power of veto, and we know that McKenzie did not use it first time this season, all season that it hasn’t been used.
I think they went, was it 10 in a row that it was used or
something like that? Yeah,
10 or 11 and McKenzie didn’t use it. She puts up Kimo and Rubina after winning HOH and then decides not to use it, even though there was talk, Chelsea saying, or somebody going to her and saying, look, Cam’s not going to take you.
If he wins HOH next week, he’s putting you up and he’s coming after you. And maybe that was just gameplay of people not wanting to be put up by her, but she ultimately decides not to use it, which was crazy because she did it for Leah, where she puts up her two noms and then says, actually, you know what?
I am going to use it and puts up Lee and gets Lee eliminated. So she doesn’t use it first time all season. I felt like we got to a point with these 10 in a row power of vetoes being used that. Well, actually let, let’s go back to that. Do you think she should have used the power veto on, should she have taken her shot at Chelsea?
Should she have taken a shot at cam or you think it’s smart of her just to leave her noms the way it was?
I mean, at this point, I think that Mackenzie is in a position where she. either needs to just win every competition left and hope for the best, hope that they respect the competition wins, considering that she seems to be loyal to her final two with Chelsea or just start taking these big shots.
And, and I think the middle ground of that was kind of what she was considering, which is if you take Rubina down, make a deal with her. And put up cam and send cam out. And she seemingly had Chelsea on board to make that happen. You’re taking out one of your biggest remaining threats. You can make that deal with Rubina and chemo to like basically target Chelsea over you, which I think they were willing to make that deal.
And and it forces Chelsea to be loyal to you at the final four as well, because who in their right mind would go to the final three with a duo of Rubina and chemo. And additionally, Cam is very much looking to take a shot at Mackenzie at the Final Four. So, that is obviously very dangerous.
So there was a lot of potential to that move, but ultimately, they’ve had this Final Three going for a while, and Cam was able to kind of like, talk her back down into, Hey, I’m with you. I’m not throwing competitions. I promise. I’m just really bad at them. And and so she decided to, to, to not go forward with the move, which, you know, trying to analyze McKenzie strategy at this point feels like a losing battle because after that move on Leah, it’s just like, listen, you could still theoretically win, but I mean,
well, I, I, you know, I.
Your thought process on the Leah move, is there any part of you that sees the strategy behind it and thinks it was a good move? Or is it just this was just the wrong move to make?
Oh, it was, it was a great move. By Chelsea.
Yeah, by Chelsea . She controlled because she basically convinced Leah, you got it.
You
gotta do this. Yeah. And that’s resume Mackenzie, I would say.
Yeah. I mean, and, and here’s the thing, and, and I guess it all comes down to, you know. We just don’t know about this jury, what they’re, what they’re going to favor over other things. But the point I was trying to make earlier about power of veto being used 10 times in a row was it seems like we got to a point where they were using it.
Maybe just because they wanted to set a record. I mean, you probably remember all the times it was used and who used it, but did you think it really needed to be used 10 times in a row? Can you think of any off the top of your head? We’re just like, okay, that was, It really didn’t need to be used there. I think they might’ve just wanted to continue this streak.
Cause they all knew they were probably setting a record while they were doing it.
I think that was, you know, part of this week when, when Mackenzie was talking about using the veto on Rubina to put Cam up, not to send him home, just to do it. I was like, all right, come on. A lot of the times though, it has felt fairly intentional.
And now I will say. A huge part of this statistic was the AI arena twist because with three nominations with three nominees the odds of a nominee themselves winning the veto was so much higher. And the odds of somebody that would want to use it on one of those people was higher. And the consequences of using the veto weren’t as high either because there was still the chance that anybody that did get nominated.
Could just win the AI arena and be safe as well. It wasn’t like you were consigning them to face a vote for sure. If you use the veto and got somebody else on the block. So I think that the AI arena really set the tone for this season being using the veto, not a big deal, and we’ll just do it all the time.
And then when the AI arena stopped, that was the habit that they got into. You know, what’s interesting about big brother is that people come in Fresh all the time. And even if they’ve watched seasons before, all they know is their own season. And so when they’ve spent six, seven, eight weeks operating a certain way, and then things change, it’s like, well, feels just get used.
That’s just how the game is played for them. And so I think that there was a lot of just momentum coming from AI arena.
And based on what we’re seeing right now. It is pretty, I guess what I’ve read as well. It seems pretty clear that chemo is going home tonight.
It should be that way. Now there has been a little bit of expression particularly from Cam about wanting to maybe keep keep chemo over Rubina, but Chelsea and McKenzie have been fairly adamant, at least in the past about wanting Rubina to stay.
So, it should be fairly clear cut, but you never know.
Yeah. Expect the unexpected. I look at it like this. Like, it’s funny because before I saw something online that made me think I was under the impression if chemo is sitting in the finals against anyone, but if he’s sitting in the finals against Chelsea or McKenzie and Rubina is sitting in the finals against Chelsea and McKenzie or cam is sitting in the finals against Chelsea and McKenzie.
I don’t think any three of those people should get a vote, but then I saw online, it’s like, well, the reason they want to take chemo out tonight is because he’s got three votes from the jury already. T Core is going to vote for him, Robina is going to vote for him, and Angela is going to vote for him, and I’m like, okay, I get it, the friendship thing, but I just, and I, I get there’s the comp, your gameplay versus your social game, and obviously chemo is well liked.
But I just I’m missing something here and maybe I’m in the minority, but if chemo was up against Chelsea I think he should lose seven nothing and the same with McKenzie. I just think they’ve been better players chemo Hasn’t been much of a threat. He’s I know he can use like I’ve been on the block what six seven times now I guess he could use that as an argument and I survived it every time I think a couple times he took himself off by winning power veto But I don’t know am I in the minority here that he shouldn’t get a vote if he got to the finals You I
don’t think you’re in the minority there.
I think a lot of people would agree with you. I will say there is something perhaps poetic about chemo sitting next to either Mackenzie or Chelsea and picking up some votes, especially if he gives a good speech, considering that they are Saved him on the block because of his speech at the last minute that they themselves were prone to fall victim to his speech, giving and emotional tug.
But but yeah, at the end of the day, chemo definitely is one of those players that you just. You do have to be worried about in a final vote regardless of how he plays because he’s developed such such strong bonds with Angela, with T Core, with Rubina, and don’t forget with Quinn as well. They had a really good conversation before Quinn left.
Quinn and Kimo were besties at the start of the season. And so, that’s another one you’d have to watch out for. If Quinn went in that direction, I don’t think he would, but you never know. And it’s just way too close. He’s just a player that, you know, if, if he’s not good enough to warrant votes if you think so, then you gotta make sure you get him out.
And he should be easy to get out if he’s not a good enough player to get those votes. Right. So, you, you just have to, you just have to go in that direction. I think.
And then Rubina. She would have, seemingly, if she got to the final two, she would have T Core and Kimo’s vote. I don’t know if would she have Angela’s?
That’s a little trickier. I guess
it depends who she’s standing
against, maybe? It could depend. It also just depends on, like, the tenor of the jury house, you know? I think Leah Angela and Quinn could theoretically all be voting in the same direction and so how do they feel? You know, I know that Leah and Angela both felt pretty burned by Chelsea, I know Quinn did as well, but do they respect that?
I think probably They also felt like Mackenzie burned all of them. And do they respect that? Maybe not as much because they felt like it was controlled by Chelsea. So, but the thing is that some of these people like Quinn, he’s been gone for weeks by the time the finale hits, he’ll be, he’ll, he’ll have been gone for over a month and we won’t have heard from him, they won’t have heard from him who knows what he’s thinking at this point so much could change.
So, you always have to be very careful about what you think the jury is going to do.
So the talk going around right now is Chelsea and McKenzie have told each other and with cam, you know, we didn’t come this far to not be the final three. Obviously they’re going to be three of the final four after tonight.
And basically they just have to pray that Rubina doesn’t win HOH, because if she doesn’t, seemingly your final three is going to Rubina will be the next to go. It’ll be, she can’t win HOH and obviously can’t win power of veto. And. Your final three are going to be cam and Chelsea and Mackenzie. And I thought I read on the live recap that Chelsea has told Mackenzie, Hey, it is me and you in the finals.
I want to go to the finals with you. Now, a part of me is like. Maybe she’s just telling her that, or I don’t know, maybe you’ve got a better feel. I didn’t actually watch it. I just obviously read it on the Twitter. Do you think that Chelsea is going to stick to her word, assuming power vetoes in HOH’s lineup and then if they have a chance to take each other to the final two, will they, or do you think one of them is going to turn on the other one because they know that’s their biggest competition?
I think Mackenzie will take Chelsea. I think that Chelsea means it right now when she says she will take Mackenzie, but that does not mean that she will continue to mean it in the future. I’m not going to forget the fact that it was just before the double eviction, less than a week ago. roughly a week ago, I should say, when Chelsea was actively campaigning to get Mackenzie out of the house in the double eviction.
Then Mackenzie won the following HOH and they were besties again. And, and I think that Chelsea tends to operate in this very sort of like, I’m just all in kind of level. And so I think that she does mean it, like, hey, Mackenzie won, we’re safe, like, she’s probably coming to the end game with me.
You know what, maybe I am going to the end with Mackenzie after, even though I did consider taking her out. But if, say, Cam wins the Final Four veto and has all the power next week, maybe she’s promising Cam she’ll take him to the end now, and maybe she means that because she’s changed her mind. I don’t know.
I honestly don’t know who Chelsea will take, but I do believe that she means it when she tells Mackenzie she will take her right now. I just think she might change her mind in the future.
Do you, is it safe to say that no matter who Robina sits against in the finals, if she gets there, or whoever Cam sits against in the finals, If he gets there, they can’t win.
Is it safe to say that there’s any way that Rubina or Cam wins this season? You already said chemo has a shot. Cause we feel like he’s got those three votes. He would just need one more. But we’re being in cam seem like I can’t see four people voting for them. Cam. Like I said, if he’s sitting against anybody in the finals, I don’t think he gets a vote.
I just think everyone’s going to say he wrote Chelsea’s coattails all season long. He wasn’t a good comp player. Doesn’t seem to be the greatest social player either. Leah and Chelsea with their love triangle with him. It doesn’t seem like he has a chance to win this, no matter who he’s sitting against, and I can’t see Robina winning this unless I guess she’s sitting there in the finals against cam.
That would be her only way to win, I guess, but. Safe to say they’re probably not winning.
I think that Rubina has a tough path for sure. I mean, she has those two votes. But you know, sitting next to any of, you know, Chelsea Mackenzie. Cam, I think, I think it’s a tough road. Again, it’s not impossible.
I think this jury, first of all, we have a jury of seven, right? And that’s something that’s fairly new in terms of coming back around. You know, we, we didn’t start with seven, but quickly came to seven early in the days of Big Brother.
How many years in a row have we had nine before this season? Do you remember?
Oh
boy. I think that we started with nine at 15. It’s been 10 seasons. Something like that. That sounds right to me. I could be wrong though. It hasn’t been like
three or four
seasons. No, it’s been quite a while that we’ve had nine. And then last season, of course we switched to seven and a seven person jury is a lot more fickle, which is part of why they’re kind of fun.
You know, with a nine person jury, it’s hard to really make dramatic swings because there’s just too many people, but with seven, you know, You have two votes. All you need is two more. And all of a sudden, one person holds a lot of power and they can decide, you know, I don’t need to go with the group. I don’t need to vote with how everyone else thinks I can vote this other way.
And now all of a sudden it’s a one vote game. And so, I wouldn’t count anybody completely out is what I would say. But I would, and I would additionally say that while it doesn’t look great for Cam I wouldn’t completely count him out either. I think he’s made some really great inroads with Rubina and Kimo this week.
He’s always had better relationships with them than Mackenzie and Chelsea have. And so, you know, I, it’s definitely tough, especially against Chelsea, but there’s definitely an argument that he could make against Mackenzie even that is like, Hey, I made moves that were good for me. Mackenzie made moves that were good for Chelsea.
And it’s also who cuts Chelsea. Does Cam win the final three HOH cut Chelsea and take MJ? In that case, maybe he gets a lot of credit for for a lot of what, you know, Chelsea was doing, like, yeah, I let her out, be out in front, making all those moves while I was in the background, waiting to cut her at the end.
There’s arguments that you could make. I do think it’s a tough road. I do think we’re probably looking at a Chelsea win with, you know, MJ definitely having a shot there winning all these comps at the end, but yeah, I wouldn’t count anyone out.
That’s what I was going to say. It seems like the best final two we can get, and maybe the closest vote would be Chelsea and McKenzie, but I can say, we talked about chemo.
If it’s happens, well, chemo is going home tonight. I just, I would think, but I guess there’s that, there’s that chance that he doesn’t, but if chemo goes home tonight. I think the best final two we could get, maybe the most competitive would be Chelsea and McKenzie, but maybe I’m off because everybody in the jury’s is going to jury is going to be like, you literally had one of the worst HOA trains ever.
Leah, I don’t think we’re turn around and vote for McKenzie, but. You never know. I mean, it’d be going to be by the time the finale rolls around, be a month. So she’s been gone. Maybe she’s over it now. I don’t know, or three weeks.
Yeah. Something that struck me was that when Quinn left the game, he really felt like it didn’t make sense for Mackenzie to take a shot at him because why would Mackenzie go to the end with Cam and Chelsea who will beat her?
And then. Leah is going to be sent to the jury house saying, yeah, Mackenzie took a shot at me. And I, I have to imagine that Quinn is going to feel like, what in the world is she doing? But, again, it’s just so hard to know because if they see her then survive the double eviction, win the following HOH, they might be like, you know what?
Gotta hats off, you know? Like, I, I can’t, I can’t dog, I gotta respect it. So, yeah, it’s going to be tough to know.
Yeah. And we don’t know. If this jury is going to value the fact that of the people left, she’s absolutely been the comp beast of the season. I mean, she’s got seven or eight. Comps between HOHs and power videos, or maybe six, six, seven.
I think
if you count AI arena, then you throw in and maybe like the power she won.
I mean, it’s, it’s, she’s been really, really good. Which in my mind means, I don’t know when the next season starts filming, but there’s no way that McKenzie isn’t asked on the next season of the challenge. Oh, yeah, she’s one of
your games as well.
Yeah, even possible reindeer games, but she’s going on the challenge. I would think they’d want her and I would think Well, talk about that later, but I think that she’s definitely getting on the challenge because I, why wouldn’t you want her? She’s a former college athlete, former volleyball player in college.
She’s clearly good at challenges. Granted the, I understand that the big brother challenges of, you know, Stacking things or whatever is a little more difficult, a little less difficult than what they do on the challenge. But still they, we know they pull from the big brother family. They love big brother contestants and she plays hard and she’s
messy.
Yeah. And they love that. And she is going to be somebody that you guarantee some of the veterans are going to be after romantically as well. Assuming Matt doesn’t. You know, Matt’s seems to be under the illusion that, Oh, I’m just going to be dating Mackenzie when this thing is over. And it’s like, I think he’s got another thing. I did hear some of the things that she said about Matt in the live feeds about a month ago. But okay, let’s just, just flat out ask. I know it’s, I know it’s hard to answer for the jury. We don’t know, but if it is a Chelsea Mackenzie final two, you think Chelsea wins?
I do think so. Yeah. I mean, another thing to consider is that, you know, these, these Players, particularly Quinn, who’s very familiar with the show.
They’re playing right off the heels of last season when Jag won all of those competitions and basically won the game because he won so many competitions. And, you know, they’re not unfamiliar with the fact at least Quinn was certainly wouldn’t be. But the fact that like, that wasn’t exactly. The most popular ending to a season.
So I do think that competition wins will be valued maybe a little bit less than they were last season than they have been the last few seasons. It’s possible at least. And so, that’s maybe a bit of a detriment to Mackenzie’s winning chances in the end, if she’s really going to be banking on those competition wins.
Chelsea, on the other hand has competition wins. And she can claim that she influenced Mackenzie’s HOA trains. She can claim that she’s been in control from the start, or at least close to it because she was in the Pentagon, she was in the collective she had a little blip on the radar in the middle and then regained control.
And I think that like, basically since the beginning, a lot of people have been pointing at Chelsea as one of the better players in the house. In addition to that, she has that T core connection, which is really, really powerful because if she has T core. Then T CORE is maybe able to influence both chemo and Rubina to vote in her direction as well.
So there’s a lot of things going for Chelsea over McKenzie, and it would be hard to see McKenzie pull up, pull out the win over her.
Yeah. That’s why I’m thinking if McKenzie wins another HOH, like I said, I know what they’ve said to each other, but game wise, I think if she’s sitting next to where she probably does lose, I thought it’d be a lot closer.
But the more you present your argument, I’m like, yeah, I don’t know. I don’t know what McKenzie has over Chelsea. Other than I’ve been the comp beast between the two of us. I won my way to the end. I paved my own path, but like you said, maybe the jury just doesn’t care after what happened last season. So maybe she doesn’t win.
And now she’s got to take a shot at her and yeah, she’ll lose her vote in the end, probably. But. If it’s McKenzie and cam in the finals, I think that is, that’s her chance to, if she’s sitting against camera Rubina, I think she wins, but again, I don’t know. I, you know, I know we keep saying we don’t know and we don’t, but she has a way better chance of beating camera Rubina
than she does Chelsea.
Clearly, especially if she’s the one to cut Chelsea, right? Like, you know, I think that gives her a lot of credit and it is still dangerous because Kimo and Rubina have those other two T Core Rubina Kimo, the other two votes in the jury. And then maybe if Chelsea’s really mad at you, that becomes three and that is really dangerous, but But like, I think the rest of the players would all vote for Mackenzie at that point.
And because undeniably she will have been like the player of the season. And I think finding that fourth vote is going to be really difficult. I think Chelsea’s best bet there would probably be Cam. But or sorry like Kimo Rubina’s best bet would be Cam. But I think Cam would give it, I think he would give it to Mackenzie as well.
And quite frankly, I think Chelsea would also. But but yeah, it would require McKenzie making that move or somebody to make the move for her. This is one of those situations. And I find myself in this position a lot because we do drafts of the players ahead of time, both McKenzie or all three of McKenzie, chemo and cam were my draft team.
All three of them were my draft team. So I’m like, what’s a way that McKenzie can win this. And it’s almost like. Don’t win this one, Mackenzie, because I can’t trust you to make the right move, but somebody else might make it for you. And then that actually puts you in a better spot.
Yeah. Well, if, if Mackenzie is up against Chelsea in the finals, what is her argument?
Like if you’re her, what do you say is your argument other than the comp wins? That’s where I’m struggling. That’s why I think she has to get Chelsea out. I just don’t know if she has the balls to do, but like you said, it could be done by somebody else, but if she’s in control, I just don’t see her taking a shot.
She could have done it this week. She didn’t, she could have done it last week and went after Leah. I don’t know. I, what is her argument against Chelsea to the jury?
Yeah, I think unfortunately every argument she could make would be undermined by the fact that she took Chelsea to the final two, because you could say that Listen, I started this game from the bottom the very first week I, you know, my showman’s was called crazy eyes.
I was called out. My entire game blew up. I was at the bottom for weeks. I was struggling. I was scrapping to survive. And week after week I squeezed by, I won the competitions I needed to until I got to the position where I was able to infiltrate the power structure. I cozied up to Chelsea and cam. We made a final three and we started dominating this game.
And you know, that like, that was my path and that’s a really impressive path. Then I started winning these competitions. I made the hard calls when I needed to. I, I was the reason Quinn left. I was the reason Tucker left. I beat him in the AI arena. I was the reason Leah left. She was the next big threat. Like I did all of these things and I kept Chelsea around because, you know, she was, big threat in front of me as well. It was like it allowed me to not be targeted immediately. I knew that I could trust Chelsea did not target me, which she didn’t in the double when I was vulnerable. And I think you can make a good case like that, but then the question on my mind as a juror is, Then why did you choose to take Chelsea to the final two with you instead of Cam, Kimo or Rubina?
And I don’t think there’s a good answer for that. I think her answer would be because I wanted to go to the end with a strong player. I wanted to do that and I just, that argument falls so flat for juries most of the time because You’re insulting them. You’re telling them, I didn’t want to go to the end with you because you weren’t a strong enough player.
Chelsea was the strong player I wanted to go to. It’s like, okay, you want a strong player? Sure. We’ll give her the win.
We’ll give her the win. Then congratulations for taking the strong player. The strong player just beat you.
