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Podcast #418 – Interview with Rikkii Wise, TikTok’er Covering “Love is Blind”

Yeah. All right. So. So here we are and we’ve got that situation of, okay, now you’ve got three children, three children with Bri. One of them is a sperm donation. Two of them were conceived naturally and the show airs as it airs. He finally tells Ashley, he tells her off camera, but then she has the, she has said since I wanted to address my reaction to it on camera, we never see the conversation where he actually told her.

And then. She, we get her reaction on camera and then the reunion happens and they couldn’t really address it because Bryce videos came out after they had already filmed it. And you know, I’m, I’m curious on, God, there’s so many things here in her videos, in Bryce videos. She said the last time Tyler had any contact with these children, I 30th, basically the day before he left for filming, he was hanging out with them up until filming.

And then from the second he got back. He’s never talked to Or seen the kids and you got back to the filming end of October, roughly last year.

So, Bri shared with me some text cards, so they were actually in communication, yes, where they were in communication and she’s asking him, you know, when are you going to be able to see the kids?

Like, they’re so excited to see you. And he’s, you know, talking to her about Ashley and, and it kind of seems like his communication kind of cuts off around November, which was the, the Wedding time. So it appears that after he got married is when he went completely ghost. But yeah, he was with the children right, right day before filming.

And if you watch the Nick Vile podcast, Ashley says very confidently in that interview that Tyler had been cut off right in the children. You know, she, he, she, he had been cut them out of their lives. So I don’t know if she genuinely believes that. And those text messages were a shock to her. But I believe in that moment, she did not know that Tyler had not cut off Bri or these children.

Someone emailed me and it could be just somebody that had their facts wrong. That said. Tyler is not on the birth certificate for any of the three children. Is that correct?

He is on the birth certificate for the twins.

Oh, he is?

Yes. He is not on the birth certificate for the first child, which the ex wife is on the birth.

Okay.

So before Tyler leaves for filming, he’s got Three children with, with Bri, what is, she said his role is obviously I’ve seen pictures, I’ve seen videos and riding bikes and all this stuff at birthday parties. She explained it to you. So as best as you know, what was his role with these children?

He was their father.

I

mean, legally he’s their father. Yes. But what was, was he living with her? Was he?

Yes. So, so here’s the thing is, although the first son was intended to be a donor situation, both Tyler and Bri and Deshawn have all publicly said that when, when the son was very, very young, 10 months old, Tyler, when, when Deshawn stepped out of the picture, Deshawn his ex wife, when she, they went their separate ways, Tyler came to Bri and asked to be, To take on a father role for the son.

So although it was never intended to be his son, he asked to take on that role. They had a in depth conversation about it, what it would entail, what it would look like, how he would help out. And they agreed to those terms and move forward. And from that day, he was. The dad and they moved into a home together so that they could have a home for their 3 children.

So, like, he lived with, they lived together for a year when the girls and the son was when they were babies. So, for him to say, I mean, even on the podcast this morning, he admitted that he was. Would see them five, six times a week. He wasn’t active. He was an active father. And he’s trying to say he wasn’t active because he removed himself at some point, you know?

But then in the next breath, you say you were there five, six days a week. So it was always intended for, there never needed to be a conversation regarding the twins, right? Like you don’t sit down with the person you’re pregnant by and say, so what is going to be your role? That only happened for the son because.

Of the original donor agreement, but for the twins, they’re needed. They’re there’s no discussion that needs to be had. You’re their dad.

Okay. So when she said he left for filming on September 30th of 2023, he has not seen them since obviously they were in contact. You showed the text messages. Clearly he was in contact with Bri once filming and he got his phone back, which by the way.

Those text messages didn’t paint a flattering picture of him’s thoughts on Ashley. Again, it’s just, he was like, Ashley, didn’t he literally say, Ashley’s not my type.

Yeah. He said something along the lines of, she doesn’t look like anybody I’ve ever dated. I’ll tell you that, but she’s nice. Which again, I know I didn’t think that was the worst thing.

That’s the point of the experiment is to go and fall for somebody. That’s not typically your usual type. I think the. Issue that people had with that is that currently in 2024 since he’s been married, he’s been liking. I mean, he must not have known that your likes on tick tock are public and every single like of his is a.

Lighter fair skinned woman young woman and you’re liking these things as a married man. That’s what people Like what made people raise their eyebrows? Not that, you know, Ashley’s not your typical type. We, we understand that’s the point of the experiment, you know?

Okay. I didn’t even know that. I didn’t know he was liking pictures of younger women.

Younger women. Yes. And, and, and it’s not just like one or two, it’s like hundreds, hundreds, like you can, you can scroll for days and you’re a married man at this point. So that’s strange. Yeah,

no, for sure.

Yeah.

All right. So the next question I had in regards to, to all that was okay. September 30th, he leaves for filming.

And at that time on September 30th, were, was he living with Bri or no,

no,

they had, they had already, they had. He was still in the children’s lives, but he wasn’t living with him. And that, and then while he was away filming or since, when did Bri get in the relationship that she’s, I believe currently in, right?

She’s

been in a, she’s been in the relation. She’s been in a relationship for the past. She’s been in a long term relationship. So I think that Tyler is trying to imply that because she’s in a relationship, that he gets to negate his responsibilities as a father because the children have a step parent like that.

That’s never made sense to me. That he, that was like his main point today on his podcast was like, well, yeah, like she has a fiance. Like, what does that have to do with you being a dad? Like, okay, they have a step parent. Great. But that doesn’t mean you get to not be a dad.

So he has never addressed the question.

Why have you not talked to or supported your children since you left for filming? He hasn’t answered the question of that, right?

I don’t know that he’s been asked that the, the host today didn’t, this is the, the interview today is the first interview that Tyler has done. And the host did not ask him that the host did not ask.

He said he went into the experiment. And since being in the experiment, it gave him clarity that this was not, that’s what he said. It gave him clarity that this was not the situation that he wanted to be in. And rather he came out married or not, he was going to come back from love is blind and decide not to, that he no longer wanted to be part of the children’s lives.

So now I want to look at it from the Ashley perspective, because there’s a part of me that thinks that There was probably some sort of conversation she had with him after he told her about these children, which again, I don’t, I feel like Ashley hasn’t been asked or her feet have been held to the fire when she’s been asked certain questions of.

Okay, he springs this on you during filming, you get over it, you know, you’re shocked at first, but you eventually get over it. I’m fine. You end up marrying this guy, but since she has found all this stuff out, number one, that the twins were conceived through, were conceived naturally, I haven’t heard her say her opinion of what she thinks of that, and number two, What do you think about the fact that this man has just decided to disown his own children?

Even if he doesn’t want to see them again, he has a financial obligation to their 18 to support them. Yeah. What do you think about your man that you’re married to this guy that you say that you love so much completely disowning his kids? How is she not addressed this? Anywhere, but she’s making jokes about possibly being pregnant and then not know I’m not pregnant.

She’s joking around about that stuff. How is she not answered this yet? I’m baffled.

I again, Ashley, when she went on Nick via via or however you say his name Bri’s videos were not out that that interview film the same week as their reunion. So her videos were not out. I believe. And again, I can’t speak for Ashley, but I believe that whatever narrative that Tyler is telling her, she genuinely believes.

So if you listen to his interview this morning, then you would have heard him. Say in so many words, these are not, he’s, it’s sticking on that. These are not his children that the, that he never felt connected to them. These are not his children. He was just, he was just a donor. He gave his sperm to this family and those are those kids.

So I believe that Ashley. Thanks that he’d still believe that, that these are. He has nothing to do with these kids. These are her children. That’s her family. And now she’s just coming after him for money. Like, which is also.

Well, I mean, his obligation as a father of these children, she shouldn’t even have to come after him for money.

He should be. Supporting her with money because that’s his obligation at this point. If he doesn’t want to see them, look, we can have a whole separate debate about whether this guy just wants to move on with his life and not see these children. That’s fine. I don’t particularly agree with it, but the

option to see the children anymore.

And I think that that’s what people are missing. Brian does not want him in. Why would I want anybody who treats my children this way in their life? I don’t want Tyler in their life. I don’t want Ashley in their life. I want him to pay his child support and I want him to leave me alone.

So she just wants him to do his due diligence as a father of these children pay your child support.

Yeah,

she says I you know, this is I think an important fact that people are missing is that this is not the first time tyler has done this to her He has done this before where he got into a relationship and disappeared on the children and on her So when he went on love is blind, it was always a concern for her that this would happen again.

And it’s a conversation that they had. Are you sure that this is not going to happen again? Because it’s happened, it happened before, you know, and he said he wouldn’t and he did. So, again, I don’t want to speak for Ashley, but I believe that whatever lie that Tyler is trying to maintain, cause he went on the podcast this morning and tried to maintain it.

He tried it in court this past Friday. They had a A court case for child support. He’s trying, I believe she believes that lie,

which is amazing because obviously on the show, she wouldn’t have seen any pictures or videos of him being in their lives. But since the show was done filming, and since this became public and you know, there’s this whole debate of, You know, look, I’m 100 percent on your coverage of this on bribe, being able to come out and speak about this because, and you know, the reunion show tap dance around it.

Oh, kids are involved. Let’s be sensitive, but I’m sorry, this is a situation where, how can you go on this show with three kids and expect it not to be talked about? Like, I’m sorry, he’s ignorant to think that that was never going to happen. Leave these kids out of it. It’s not their concern. They’re going to read about this when they get older and it’s going to be, look, Him going on the show through all that out the window.

If you don’t want this being discussed, don’t go on the show.

I’m sorry. Don’t discuss it on the show. Right. So I think again, on the podcast this morning, he was so like, I was protecting them, like, that’s why I didn’t want to talk about it. How was going on the show and lying about them, protecting them, protecting them would have been telling the truth.

Or not mentioning it at all. But the fact of the matter is, is you mentioned them and you lied about it and he’s saying, oh, I didn’t bring them up because I didn’t want people to go digging. Had you gone on that show and said, I have three kids back home, I love them dearly. I hope that you can love them too.

What would there have been for people to dig for? And to be honest, nobody really dug for anything. The family was so appalled when they heard him denounce the children as sperm babies that they came forward and said, Hey, sperm babies. They’re not like, that’s, that’s not the truth, you know? So, and again, the host let him skate right on out of that.

I’m protecting them. That’s why I didn’t want to bring them up. That’s why you lied on them. Like, let’s make it make sense. He contradicted himself a lot in, in that podcast. It was, it was wild to see him wiggle out of questions, to see him, like, He did a lot of deflecting like that interview was purely to bash the mother of his children.

That’s what that was the intent of that interview.

I wonder if Ashley is just like, I’m not staying with you. I wonder if she told him like, look, once it came out or maybe even after the show and before it became major news, you know, this past October when the show started airing, I don’t know at what point, but maybe she just said to him, look, If you’re going to be with me, you need to disown them and you want to, you need to have nothing to do with them and don’t even, you know, talk about that.

Maybe that was the, the way that she presented it and that’s why he’s acting the way he is because she’s actually the one controlling the situation and like, I’m not going to say married to you. That’s the narrative,

right? That’s out there. But I think I don’t think that we can blame Ashley for Tyler’s actions considering it’s a pattern.

You know, he’s done this before and if he hadn’t done this before, I would say like, maybe there’s some outside influence from Ashley, but no, it’s a pattern. This is what this man does when he falls in love and gets into a relationship. He miraculously doesn’t want to have children anymore. And that’s just not the way it works.

Speaking of that, you found out something else about Tyler’s ex fiance when he was previously engaged. He never even told his ex fiance. That he had donated sperm and he had a child out there that was through a sperm donation She had no idea. She

had no idea

and what

is

How how and when did she find out?

she So I don’t know exactly how she found out But she found out at some point along the way along the turns of the pregnancy Now this morning on the podcast tyler did address this and the way he skipped out of it Was crazy like it was he The host tried to like ask him, but he just like he was like, oh, we were already broken up by the time I donated the sperm.

That’s what he said. Right? And then the host said, well, then what is this that she you had her at a baby shower. You had her at a gender reveal and he’s. Where the host messed up is he said, baby shower. So Tyler took that baby shower, baby shower, baby shower. And it was actually a gender reveal. No, I never had her.

I never had her at a gender reveal. So the host asked him straight out, were you engaged when you donated sperm? Yes. Did your partner at the time know that you donated sperm? He said, no,

so he did admit to that, but she had no idea.

But then in the next breath says, by the time I donated the sperm, we were already broken up.

Well, it’s confusing. He just said that. The guy asked him point blank when you were, were you engaged when you donated the sperm? And he said, yes,

he says we were at the tail end of our engagement. That’s, that’s what he said. We were at the tail end of our engagement. And did you tell her? No. And then, and, but then in the next breath, in the next breath says, Well, by the time I donated the sperm, we, we had ended our relationship and I just thought I was never gonna have kids.

And I had just gotten cheated on. He blamed the whole reason for him and his ex fiancee breaking up on him being cheated on. And I was never going to have a family. So I thought, why, why not help somebody else out? But again, the host should have caught that. You just contradicted yourself. You just said you were engaged.

And then now you’re saying the relationship ended when you donated the sperm. Like you

said, like you said, Ricky, make it make sense. I’m so confused about all of it. I mean, I have obviously a little bit clearer picture now when Ashley went on Nick’s podcast, obviously it’s, you know, again, it was before.

Bri had come out with her videos, but what were the biggest issues you had with Ashley and the things that she said on Nick’s podcast?

So, the biggest, I had a lot of issues with Ashley’s podcast because she was speaking so confidently on a situation that she clearly did not have the full context on.

Yeah. My biggest issue is that she said she did her due diligence, that she spoke to everyone she needed to, that was involved. But you did not speak to Brian. You did not speak to bride. She is a very big main component in this. You said you spoke to his mom. You spoke to his sister. You spoke to his brother who not saying that they are lying for him, but those are people in his life that might fabric, like go along with his narrative for him.

You did not speak to the main person involved, which is the mother of the children, which leads me to believe that you did not want to know the full truth.

But at some point. Because you said this on one of your tech talks and Brian might have said it, they had been in communication. I actually didn’t actually say that on vile files, or maybe it was somewhere else

actually

said.

Bri cut the, the mother of the children contacted me and she was very apologetic towards me. And then I was like, but then I read the text. I’m like, okay. It’s not again

again. That was another issue that I had with her is that you went and you painted this narrative that Bri came to you first of all, why did Bri have to come to you?

You should have went to her a year ago before this show even aired to get clarity on this situation. You told her in the DM that you did not want clarity on the situation. That’s that’s not what you were looking for, but that you welcome her perspective. And then you painted this narrative that this.

woman came to you to apologize for some wrongdoing or some harm that she’s caused you when clearly she’s saying to you, I’m sorry that we’re all going through this. This is a, this is a lot on all of our mental health and all of that. Like she was not apologizing to you in the capacity that you made it seem, you know?

And in that interview again, You know, she called me a fake TikTok journalist and says that, you know, I released some text messages that could have been from anybody. That’s what she said. They could have been from anybody. Anybody can create a text thread and put the name Tyler at the top. And she said, Oh, so you, you do that and you, you take it as word or you take it as Bible or whatever she said.

And I said, okay, I can show, I can show the number. Cause I, I, I verified the number. I’m, I’m in communication with people who actually know this man. And so unless the grandmother, the baby mother, and all three of his ex girlfriends that I spoke with all have the same phone number, then what are we talking about here?

I can show you the number. So now that I’ve shown the number, now, what do you have to say? The end of the day. You have the words of a lying man and I have receipts. So you can call me a fake journalist all you want.

That’s one of the things that drives me up a wall when it comes to showing receipts and it comes to.

A text message exchange that you are releasing on your tick tock or on your YouTube channel or my, you know, in my case, my website, I’ve done that numerous times in the past, the people that want to defend the person that I am creating a case against are immediately saying, well, how do you know those tick to anybody can can do that?

It’s like, yeah,

Yeah,

do you really think that I just made this up and I called my best friend and said, Hey, my name, let’s have this conversation. Say this in return, change my name in your phone.

Let’s have months long text exchanges just to fabricate a lie about your man. Like, and that’s the thing is it’s not like if you, again, if you wanted to know the truth, you would have went to the woman or even come to me and said, Hey, can I, can I see the, the.

The number on those texts instead of now you’re going on public podcasts and, and calling me a fake TikTok journalist and saying that I fabricated these messages. Okay, well now you’re coming for my credibility. So I will, I will. In fact, cause she said in the, in the interview show, show, show, show the number.

So I

did.

And it’s like, and still there’s, you have nothing to say for it because. Tyler did not address that at all, that you were asking a woman to come over while you were engaged. So this whole narrative that he’s changed and he’s not the person he used to be. All of these things are very, very recent.

They’re all very recent.

I think, I think Ashley is in a position now. Where she has dug her heels in so deep

that

she doesn’t want to ever admit that she was wrong because she’s gonna have so much egg on her face, even though there’s probably, I’m sure if Ashley is being truly honest with herself, I think she knows in the back of her head, crap, something is off here.

Maybe Tyler isn’t who I thought he was, but she’s dug in so deep right now. She’s just like. I dump him. Everyone’s going to be like, Ashley, we told you about this months ago. You wouldn’t listen to us. You reality with, you know, the Ashley girl, the other Ashley, what is it? What’s her name?

Reality. Ashley

reality.

Ashley. You’ll be like, you’ll basically be doing a victory dance. And I think she is Ashley on love is blind is just so dug in at this point where she doesn’t want to admit wrongdoing here. And she doesn’t want to admit, Oh my gosh, maybe I didn’t vet him like I should have. And She knows that people are going to do a celebratory dance once it comes to find out.

And look, I don’t know what’s going to happen between Tyler and Ashley.

I think that that’s the misconception here, right? I think that she thinks she has this idea that the internet is like forcing her to leave Tyler and wants her to leave Tyler. At the end of the day, if you Every woman has dealt with a lying man.

I let, not let, not, don’t let me speak for every woman, but a lot of us have dealt with a lying man. And if you want to stay with him, that is your prerogative. If you want to make your marriage work because you took a vow and, and you want to stand on that vow. That is your prerogative. Do it, help him pay his child support, help him do right by these kids.

Nobody, nobody cares about your relationship, but what people care about is that you keep publicly speaking and saying that we’re wrong, that we have it wrong, that we, we don’t know what’s going on, that, that we don’t have the full scope of things where it’s like, we do, cause we’re hearing your side and we’ve also heard the other side of a side that you’ve refused to acknowledge.

And it’s okay to say. I didn’t have the full scope of everything. Now that I do, I’m going to stand beside my husband, but I’m also going to make sure that he takes care of his children. You know what I mean? That’s the other thing. That’s the way to go about it. Instead of this

getting defensive, instead

of getting defensive, getting upset, you know, calling people names, accusing them of falsifying documents, like that’s just not the way to go.

And now Tyler’s going on this smear campaign against everyone else except for himself.

And. At the very least look if tyler doesn’t want the kids in his life I don’t technically I I don’t agree with it, but he has that right to just say you know What I don’t want to have anything to do with it But i’m just shocked that ashley even if they don’t both of them don’t want the children to be part of their marriage Because they want to start a life together and possibly have children fine But he should do his due diligence as a father and he should be paying his child support clearly And i’m just shocked that ashley isn’t even stepping in and saying You Even if she a hundred percent believes, well, like I said, nobody’s asked her.

What do you think about the fact that the twins were not sperm babies? If you just think that, Oh, he’s a sperm baby, he shouldn’t have to donate. You can have that debate. Till the end of time. Fine. But the other two were conceived naturally. They are his children. He should be supporting them. Why do you not think, why is he not paying?

Why do you feel you’re fine with your husband not paying his child support for children that he conceived with another woman, even if he’s not in their life? I want her to answer that question. I,

I think I want her to answer that question as well. And I the only thing that I can think of is that she, because of the lie that Tyler spewed today, that they saved his vials of sperm and conceived those twins, that that is the.

That’s what Ashley believes that she doesn’t believe that the twins were conceived naturally. And she believes that they were conceived from a vial of sperm that, that Brian held on to, to trap Tyler. I don’t know, like, it sounds ridiculous because we all know that you can’t save vials of sperm. So why Ashley?

I mean, it’s a simple Google search can tell you that, that that’s not even possible.

Yeah. Like even if that is the case. She went turkey baster or whatever and saved it. I, I don’t think, I think once, I think I’ve always read once sperm is outside of the body and in something that’s not a tube or for any sort of amount of time, all those, they all die.

They all sperm die. You can’t just then magically insert it into yourself and be like, okay, yeah, I’m now I’m pregnant. No,

she would like literally have to have, and like, you’re implying that like. You produce this sperm and it was saved for an elongated period of time and then used later. Like, do you know the type of equipment that she would have to have to even, you know, make that a reality?

So how Ashley is believing that, I don’t know, but I am under the assumption that she is refusing to believe that the twins were conceived naturally. So. publicly saying that to to harm Tyler in some way that she’s just making that up.

So that is her reasoning for why she doesn’t feel like he should basically be supporting them.

Is that because he was he was tricked into that? Because Bri, save for the sperm. Okay. I mean, that’s what you want to believe. It

sounds crazy, but it’s like, if that’s what it

is,

at the end of the day, right? Like you hear it, you hear what it sounds like. So it’s like, if you choose to believe it, you’re choosing to believe a lie.

And if that’s what you have to do to make your marriage work, then, okay, great. Good for you. You know, but he should pay for his children at the end of the day.

Yeah. I agree. And it just sucks. You said there was a court. Date recently. I mean, is he being ordered to now, or are we on judgment on that?

What’s going on with that?

So basically got postponed until February. What he submitted to the court as I said, was trying to paint this narrative that he is just a donor and that he is not the father. And what the exhibits that he submitted. On behalf of this was he submitted family pictures of Bri and her current fiance.

Again, how her having a fiance negates his role as a father. I don’t know. And some type of text message. Thanks for donating text message. I asked Bri, like, what could this text message possibly be? She’s going through, because he also showed it on the podcast this morning. I think he thinks it’s going to be some like mic drop moment that like proves that he’s just a donor.

Which again, he’s taking the narrative that fits for the first son and trying to apply it across the board. And that’s just not the case. It basically got postponed because he’s saying he’s trying to now submit evidence that he was just a donor and that evidence is. Family pictures of her and her fiance, which there’s also family pictures of you and the children.

So he’s just buying time.

This is crazy.

It is. It’s literally insane. There’s so many layers to it. And the only one that doesn’t make sense is, is Tyler’s narrative.

Tyler’s story just doesn’t, I mean, at the end of the day. Just bite the bullet and just pay the child support and have your life with Ashley.

Go have children with Ashley. That’s fine. Like I said, just pay your child support because Bri, it’s not like Bri is saying you need to help out with the children. You need to pick them up from school. You need to attend their baseball or basketball game. No, she’s not asking any of that. She’s just like, hey.

Do your due diligence as a father and pay your child support,

right? Because I didn’t have these children by myself, you know, so his whole perspective this morning on, on this podcast was that Bri wants him to fund her lifestyle. He wants, he wants her to fund. He wants, he wants her, he, she wants him to fund her family.

With her children and her new like that’s all she wants. That’s all she wants for me. I shouldn’t have to fund her family That’s what he’s saying.

Does he not understand how child support works? I mean, I any guy could say that that has children with somebody that they are no longer together with

exactly exactly Any

woman can he any guy can claim?

That’s what she’s after She just wants me to fund her life her lifestyle

her new family. Yeah with her new family.

It’s the law Like

The law, especially when you were paying child, you were paying, you were actively paying jobs for, for, for a year and you stopped. And now, you know, now he

just thinks he shouldn’t pay because they’re no longer together.

That’s in his mind. That’s his warped sense of reality. He thinks, well, I’m not together with her, so I shouldn’t have to pay. Why should I pay for somebody else’s chair?

Right? They were never together. I think his, his, his argument is that he shouldn’t have to pay because she has a new partner. Right.

So

the kids have two parents.

So what do they need me for? And it’s like, you’re still their dad. Like, you know, you’re still their dad. Like, I don’t know why no one has like, really questioned him or said like, what does her having a new partner have to do with your role as a father? What does, we don’t care that she has a fiance. Great.

That she has somebody to help her with these children. They’re still your children. The children have a step parent. That’s wonderful. What does plenty of people have step parents? Plenty of step parents refer to their step kids as their children. Stepdad, you think I go around calling him stepdad? No, he’s my dad.

You think he calls me stepdaughter? No, he calls me his daughter. So the fact that that’s your like smoking gun of like why this isn’t your family is ridiculous. And why nobody’s calling him out on it is ridiculous. And on a podcast this morning, he says, no one’s reached out to me. I tried to reach out to him.

He blocked me. And the thing is, is you’re not going to talk to somebody like me because I, I know too much. I’ve seen too much. I’ve seen things that you, that I have not even put out there. So you can’t BS me. And I think that. That was the issue with the host this morning is the host this morning did not have a full scope of what was going on.

You probably watched a few interviews. You probably watched, they definitely watched my interview with Bri, definitely watched my interview with Dashaun. But Tyler claims to not know who I am, but the host didn’t know enough of the story to like really hold his foot to the fire. So it was, it was, and I don’t believe anybody believed him.

It, no, I don’t think anybody, it just made it worse. So,

so nobody saw that interview today or listened to that interview today and was like, wow, great points. Tyler we’re behind you.

Not, not, not based on the comments I’ve seen not based on the comments I’ve seen, everyone’s kind of like catching his inconsistencies in it, because there were a lot of them, you know, and in one comment you say she’s just using me for money and then you say that she has this great job, like, Which one is it?

Like, you know, in one paragraph you’re saying, oh, the kids were conceived during a vial of sperm, but then like, you’re hopping around if they were conceived naturally. Like, there were so many inconsistencies and I think people caught them, but there are those select few that only watch the show, right? So, there are comments like, I’m confused.

Like, I thought he was just a donor that have missed this whole spiel of like, No, he’s not like they just saw Netflix and that’s why they don’t understand why there’s this big debacle behind this whole thing because they’re not caught up.

Yeah, they, I mean, I deal with it the same exact thing in bachelor nation.

They only, they only regurgitate. The two hours that they watch the show on Monday nights. And if you don’t follow along, there’s usually so much more to the story happening on social media. It’s almost like big brother live feeds versus what CBS chooses to show you. There’s just so much more.

Never watched the bachelor or the Bachelorette.

But I did get hit up for casting for

grants for grant season.

And when I seen him, I was like, damn, but he’s a little too young for me.

It’s a good looking guy. That’s for sure.

I was like,

yeah,

but when they he’s like, he’s like 29 or something or something like that. I

think he’s like twenties. Yeah.

Maybe. Yeah. So I had,

they had asked me what my deal breaker age was and it was. It was definitely not I said like not nothing under 31.

Okay And and then one final point to make about Tyler is just the whole point that we I think a lot of people needed for just remember is Whether he wants to or not, it’s the law.

He has to pay child support until they’re 18 unless I guess there’s extenuating circumstances or the you know, the mother Is has lost custody of the children or she’s an addict or something like that. And

yeah,

the kids are taken away, but

I think he will be forced to pay there. I think he’s going to, he’s going to have to pay.

But this implication that like he helped out a friend and he can’t believe his friend is now doing this to him is, and he’s just a people pleaser and he’s just some victim in all of this. I think is the most, is the craziest part to me.

Oh boy. All right. There’s a, that’s a lot. That’s almost an hour just on Tyler and Ashley.

So I

know

it’s great. I think it’s awesome that you’re doing this and let’s, let’s end with the Brittany Leo stuff, which ended up not even really Brittany Leo. Leo really has nothing to do with anything. I didn’t even know this until your, for you page, your stuff started showing up again on my, for you that Britney.

Now, let me get this straight. When Britney went and filmed in October of 2023, she had a full on boyfriend because again, I deal with this in bachelor and bachelor nation that people are hooking up all the time. Hell, there are guys on this show that leave to go film the bachelorette that are literally sleeping with another woman the night before they leave.

And it’s just, Hey, I’m going to go do this for fun. Right. Did Britney have a side piece? Did she just have a guy that she was banging for a while or did she have an exclusive monogamous relationship and she left to go film love is blind.

So TMZ originally broke the story, right? And they implied that she had a full on boyfriend.

I spoke to the boyfriend myself yesterday to clarify some of those details. And he said that they were not in a relationship in an official relationship. When she went to go film the show, they had previously been in a long term committed relationship, kind of in and out of each other’s lives, six months prior to filming they had decided to take a break.

They had decided to take a break. So he was very clear that they had not spoken in six months. He hit her up. They decided to go to lunch together while they were at lunch together. He, and she informed him about love is blind and said,

which at this lunch took place before she left for filming or a

week or two before she left for filming.

She informs him, Hey, I’m going to go, I’m going to film this. I’m already committed to it. But there was that understanding that when I get back, Like I’m going for an opportunity. I’m going for a financial gain and for an opportunity. And we’re, we’re gonna, we’re gonna rock when I get back. So they weren’t in a official relationship, which I think TMZ reported that they were it was this implication that, but he, it was clear because they’ve done this.

Multiple times, right. In and out of each other. So what

she did at that point that you left for filming, she’s done nothing wrong up to this point. Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

besides, I mean, going on the show for, I met with, yeah, I met with, I met

with him. Like he

had no problem with it. He, you know, he, he picked her up, dropped her off at the airport.

He had no problem with it. He did say that, you know, after the portion of the show her and Leo went to Miami, which was not part of filming and was something completely separate. He did inform me that he didn’t know about that. He did. He said that I thought, you know, I thought she was in Miami with a girlfriend and that she had contacted him from Miami.

And he’s, you know, he said that he didn’t actually find out about that till current day, like when, when the show started airing, that they went to Miami.

So when she left, before she left for filming, she basically was kind of like unwritten, unspoken. Hey, like you said, we’re going to rock with each other.

Once I get back, is that what happened? Once she got back from Miami with Leo and had basically called it off with Leo. Did her and this ex start a exclusive monogamous relationship?

Yes. So that would

have been what November of, did they start right away? November of 2023? We picked

her up from the airport and they’ve been together ever since.

And then the recent news, explain there.

So, I think the, I think the, the point of the story, I know people wanted to focus on her being in a relationship when she went to film Love Is Blind, but the point of the story was that she was 100 percent in a committed relationship with Rocky, Rocky Hawkins, that’s his name, when she was just recently seen out.

Photographed by paparazzi with Mod’s son. That was about no confusion there. If that was her boyfriend or not, they were in a committed relationship and the way that Rocky found out was those paparazzi photos.

Now, here’s an important question. I think I, I consider myself to be somewhat up to date a lot.

I read entertainment sites all day long, pretty dialed in to the celebrity entertainment music world. I had never heard Mod’s son’s name before this story broke. Who’s Mod’s son?

Who is he? Yes, is as good as mine. All I pulled up was that he Was engaged to Avril Levine at one point. He had,

is he a musician himself?

He’s a musician. He had some type of love triangle with, I don’t even wanna misquote the names. I don’t know Bella Thorn or somebody. I don’t know, but I just know he was engaged to Avril Levine at one point. But I, I’ve, I’ve been heard a song of his, I’ve, I’ve never seen his face before. I don’t know who he is.

Okay, so. Rocky finds out through, when we all do, that Brittany was seen with Maude’s son. Has Brittany responded to this? Is it one of these, Oh, it’s just a picture, I don’t know. Like, is she hooking up with Maude’s son? Has it been proven? What has Rocky said since these pictures came out? Has he confronted Brittany about it?

What has she said to him? Where are we at with all this now?

So, She says, so there were a video of Brittany and Mod’s son not only holding hands and coming out of dinner, but also making out at his show. So to say like, oh, it was like platonic or anything would, would definitely be a stretch because there’s videos of them kissing.

She basically is just, Said sorry, like I asked rocky if he’s spoken to her. He said he has and that basically She cheated

on him and they’re done.

Yeah, she cheated on him and they’re done and she’s sorry She’s sorry. She she tried to say that she’s not in a relationship with mon son. And that It’s not as serious as like the blogs made it seem, which I don’t think the blog blogs made it seem so serious at all.

I know she tried to give some like BS excuse that, Oh, we were walking out the restaurant and he just like grabbed my hand, but I’m like, did he just grab your lips too, when you guys were kissing or like, I don’t know, I don’t know. But yeah, that basically she’s sorry. Like she, she does, she can’t say anything else besides she’s sorry.

Okay. So it’s just a case of somebody, obviously. Look, when I saw Brittany on love is blind, I’m like, it’s very hard to believe. Number one, that she would even be attracted to Leo. But again, she didn’t know what he looked like until. The reveal, but she just always came across to me as somebody that was okay.

I think I know why she’s on the show and to try to build something post show beyond perfect match, stuff like that, which maybe she is, has a perfect match already filmed.

It has filmed, but Rocky says that Brittany is not on perfect. Yeah.

Now there’s rumors that Hannah is

heard that nobody from season seven is.

Oh,

that’s the rumblings that I’ve heard unless the the source maybe wasn’t able to identify Hannah because she does look quite different now. But I’m told that nobody from season seven is on it.

Yeah. Okay. Okay. So the Rocky Brittany situation is just, she cheated on him and got caught and now they are done.

And Rocky’s probably, you know, probably pissed off, probably a little embarrassed.

Yeah. He said his family’s calling him like everybody’s like, you know, obviously reaching out to him because It’s like, Oh, we just saw your girlfriend on TMZ with another man. Like, you know, so I’m sure that’s embarrassing.

So

just to wrap it up, we’ve got a few other things from season seven. We know that Monica is in a new relationship. We know that who else is in a new relationship? Was

Marissa, Marissa’s in a new relationship. Marissa’s in a

relationship. Garrett and Taylor are doing well, seemingly. It seemed to be the most normal couple of this, of this season.

Yeah.

Obviously Nick has done some post show interviews. Do you know where, like, obviously the other thing was Marissa’s whole thing on the reunion about defending Hannah, and then all of a sudden, I guess, Marissa and Hannah on following each other on Instagram. And then Marissa has done interviews since then saying, I, She was my bestie in the house at the reunion.

Yeah, I did call her out. I didn’t agree with the way she treated Nick, but it seems like their friendship is no longer, not necessarily that they hate each other, but maybe they just,

because then they just posted a tick tock together. So I guess back friends. So, okay. Okay. Yeah. So they did post a TikTok together.

And just quick thoughts for people that didn’t follow your TikTok during the season, your thoughts on the Ramses Marissa relationship and also Steven and Monica, I’m guessing it is just. What are these guys doing?

Like it was confused why ramses was there I think that during filming like Marissa did seem very genuine and the audience seemed to turn on her. At the reunion because of hannah I think people like dislike hannah so much that anybody like defending her jumping on her bandwagon was like not going to be In their favor, so that’s really unfortunate for marissa to have put herself in that line of fire You And, you know, it kind of backfired on her for somebody that’s not really her friend anymore.

And I think people, once that happened, started garnering some sympathy for Ramses. I think, I think a lot of this season’s cast was there for the wrong reasons. And it, and it shows. Like, Steven, you clearly, you know, We’re doing your thing on the side wasn’t serious about this experiment Ramses. I feel the same way.

Like, were you just looking for somebody to hump on? Like, I’m not really sure any of the men were there for the right reasons. Besides maybe Garrett Lake.

I almost feel like Garrett, we’re hanging on by a string here. You seem to be the only good dude of the season. Please don’t let something come out about your past, or you were with somebody the day before you left for filming or something, because I really liked, I really liked their relationship.

I mean, it seems like they’re thriving. They’re doing really well together.

Yeah. Yeah.

And then Hannah, Nick your thought, your final closing thoughts on Hannah and Nick for me. I just felt Nick was way too young, her too, I just don’t think that they were ever going to last, even if they decided to walk down the aisle together, they’re just too young, too inexperienced, but, I agree with Marissa when she says, I do not like the way Hannah spoke to Nick, Hannah has admitted it in post show interviews, like, wow, watching it back, I realized I cannot talk to men that way.

And my son, especially,

I

think Nick was young, immature, the stuff that he wrote in his journal, whatever. I’m guessing all these people want to be famous at some point, you know?

Yeah, I think I agree. I think they were not, they were not compatible. I, I, I think the way that Hannah. Spoke to Nick was crazy.

And I think her lack of accountability, I think even post interviews, like she’s had the chance to just kind of apologize and like, leave it there. But she always like apologizes and then follow us, followed it up with a butt continuously trying to like, degrade Nick, which is not going to make her look any better.

Like you saying anything negative about this man is not going to make you look any better because you beat him up the whole entire season. So nobody wants to hear it. Like, unless you’re going to rather he was being fake or not. Like. He sang your praises. He always spoke highly of you and you should do the same because you trying to bash him is not, it’s not going to help you.

You need to just say sorry and you need to stop talking. So that’s, that’s my view on Hannah. And that doesn’t mean that Nick is perfect. I agree. He was not ready. He was not there for the right reasons. He, he, he played his cards the way he played his cards. He’s going on love is blind to be the most famous person ever.

So he made sure he got a good edit and it’s like almost like Marissa and Hannah were wanted him to admit. That he was being fake, and it’s like, if the cameras are not catching it, and I’m getting this good edit, why would I tell on myself? You know what I mean? Like, why would I tell on myself? You know, even if that’s what he was doing, he was playing the role.

Like, he was, he was doing a good job at it, and I think that they thought it was, like, their smoking gun, that, like, he was talking about Hannah behind her back, and it’s like Or that he was their smoking gun, that he was there for fame. And it’s like, everybody was kind of like, okay, so, so all of you guys are like, let’s keep it real.

Like Hannah, you have a manager, Alex, you have a PR team, like you guys are all there for fame. So I don’t think that that comment like hit the way they thought it was going to.

Exactly. Yeah. Actually one final thing. We know the next season, Minnesota comes out on Valentine’s day, I believe February 14th.

You as the person. Along with reality, Ashley, that covers this show. Do you know the names of all the couples? Do you know how next season rolls out? Do you, are you a spoiler in that aspect? Will you post all that stuff before we even know? Cause we’re not going to find out who the cast is as the public,

right?

People that don’t follow along online and do digging for, for stuff. And probably there, there are pictures out there of when filming took place and whatever,

but

do you spoil that stuff or no?

Do, but when, sometimes, so I will do I will do it closer to when the season is going to air for people who want to know where it’s relevant.

If I did it right now, like literally nobody would care. I know nobody

would know who these people are. Nobody

would know. So I know the cast, I know who gets married. Like I, like it’s insane. I know at least one couple who gets married already. Which reality, Ashley, you know, she, I mean, She’s all knowing.

So it’s like, she, she knows too, but again, it’s not relevant now. So I will do a spoiler video. Like usually once the first episode airs, I’ll do a spoiler video for anybody who wants to know how the rest of the season is going to go. And then I would do a spoiler video of like, if you want to know who gets married or, or how things are.

pan out, fall off. I will do that. But I, I give a blatant spoiler warning when it’s relevant, when it’s relevant right now, it’s not relevant.

Have friends slash family of contestants on love is blind season eight, Minnesota. Have they come to you and said, Oh boy, you know, talk about the Ashley and Tyler drama.

Just wait till next season air. Like, are we looking at, have you heard anything in those regards? Not even, not even giving details, but just

a video that went viral actually. When season last season was Aaron season six was airing. There was a girl who was crying in front of her camera. And she’s like, I just found out that my ex is on the upcoming season of love is blind.

I don’t know what season it’s going to be. I don’t know when it’s going to air, but why does Netflix keep, you know, Giving platforms to these trash men. So that was in regard to the minneapolis season I have heard that the person that she’s referencing doesn’t really make it very far in the experiment so i’m not really sure how relevant that would be but usually The tea starts spilling when the cast is revealed, because right now, nobody really knows who’s going to be on the cast.

Once those cast pictures are revealed. That’s when people start saying, Oh my God, I know this person. I know that person. I know this about this person. I know that about this person.

So we know, we know that DC filmed October of 2023. When did filming in on the filming schedule for Minneapolis was that.

November was it the next month? When does, when did they film?

I’m not exactly sure on the timelines, but it’s, it’s around the same. It’s around the same time like that. They, they film it simultaneously, but reality Ashley would, would know exact dates for sure.

Did you get. Or does reality Ashley get pictures sent to her during filming?

Like, Hey, even though they don’t know who they are at the time, Hey, this looks like love is blind filming down here to resort to Mexico.

Yeah. Here they

are hanging out in Minneapolis. I

think the gold cuts give it away. So whenever somebody sees the gold cuts filming, they’ll say, Hey, love is blind. It’s filming.

I’m not sure this is what city we’re in. I’m not sure when this is going to air, but keep it in your back pocket. Basically,

you know what

I mean? But we keep it in our back pocket for like a year.

It’s just crazy. The turnaround time is a year like with bachelor. It’s only four months that they have to keep it a secret.

I just can’t. It’s so weird to me. Getting into this love is blind for the last two seasons that these seasons are filmed a year in advance. And these couples have to literally live a whole life for one calendar year. Now granted their friends and family know Garrett and Taylor’s friends and family knew what the outcome was and same with everybody.

But it’s just so weird that you have to keep that quiet for an hour. Anyway, my dog is starting to bark. So that means interview over.

It’s like going crazy. Ricky,

thank you so much for coming on. I really appreciate this. Even though I’m the spoiler guy, you don’t know this about me. Even though I’m the spoiler guy for Bachelor and Bachelorette, and I, I do the same thing.

I spoil the season before it airs. I don’t want to be spoiled about anything else in my life. I don’t want to know about movies before I go see them. I don’t read the end of books. It’s just Bachelor, Bachelorette, Bachelor in Paradise. So, I will not want to know when February 14th rolls around, you know, I want to watch it, but once it’s all aired, we’re definitely going to have you back on again.

Don’t worry. We’ll

have a spoiler alert. Like, so if you don’t want to watch it, you don’t have to

perfect

case when I could just watch the show and I didn’t get as well.

Yeah, no, I will. I will absolutely have you back on. Maybe there will be a Ashley, Sly, Tyler. Level drama next season. We dunno. I

don’t, I, you know what?

I hope not because this had children involved, but I, this is probably the biggest, the craziest, most diabolical story that came out of love is v Like the SK scandal was a big deal, but the what SK he was on, I don’t even, I wanna say season three.

Yeah. See, I don’t even know.

It was a big deal, but this there’s been nothing like it.

There’s been, it’s insane.

Yeah. At least you put

a Netflix documentary on it.

Yeah, it certainly seems like it. Oh, anyway. Ricky, thank you so much for coming on. Really appreciate it. And we’ll obviously be in touch and talk to you in the future.

Okay. Thank you for having me. Thank

you. Thank you so much to Ricky for coming on.

Great first time guest. As I told her at the end there, look, I don’t ever want to be spoiled on love is blind. So once it gets released. Season eight, Minneapolis on February 14th. I’ll watch the episodes and then I’m sure it’s going to last over the course of about three or four weeks. Once that season is over, we are definitely going back to Ricky.

We’ll bring her on. We’ll talk about the season. I can’t imagine there’s going to be drama like this Tyler and Ashley stuff, but Hey, you never know. We’ll see when Minnesota rolls around. Loved having Ricky on. Can’t wait to have her on again. One season, eight of love is blind drops next season. So thank you to Ricky for coming on.

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