We’re listening to the Daily Roundup here as part of the Reality Steve podcast. I’m your host, Reality Steve. Thank you all for tuning in. A good Friday show for you heading into the weekend. We’re going to talk a little bit more about that Rachel Juarez interview from yesterday. An interview with an intimacy coordinator was posted on Hollywood Reporter yesterday.
I want to look at that real quick. We’re also going to talk about the traitors last night, so if you have not watched the episode and you don’t want to be spoiled, I would suggest fast forwarding through that particular segment. Tyler from Love is Blind Season 7 responds to the breakup with Ashley. I haven’t even talked about the Challenge Reunion shows that aired the last two weeks, did I?
If I haven’t I definitely haven’t talked about Wednesday nights, so I can’t remember if I talked about last week’s either way, I’m going to bring that up this podcast and yes, it has started my calls to Las Vegas hotels. I’ll tell you how that went yesterday and we’ll get to all that momentarily. Okay.
Podcast number 427 yesterday with Rachel Juarez. I hope you took the time to listen to it. I hope you took the time to go watch some of it see me with my new mic arm on my computer. I don’t know why i’ve been podcasting for over eight years and it took me eight years to get a podcast a mic arm. This is so much easier than having to move A microphone that’s on a stand in front of me every time, which means I have to move my keyboard.
That’s what I’ve literally been doing for eight years. Every time I recorded a podcast, the bike arm just moves in front of my face. Very simple. I don’t know why I didn’t think to have one earlier. I’ve got one now and I’m happy about it, but I think a lot of good things were discussed in the Rachel Juarez interview.
And I, and I do want to say, I just really do think it’s people can have their opinions, however they want. I’m not going to tell anybody how to think. But all I would say in this particular case is, I just don’t think you can have a 100%, I’m absolutely 1000 percent on this person’s side, because you weren’t there, you don’t know enough, none of us know enough.
There’s gonna be so much more that comes out on this, and I just think people need to wait. I say this all the time on my sports podcast. I’ve said it numerous times on this podcast. I get it. You have to have a take four seconds after something happens in this world. That’s why we have Twitter. It’s why Twitter exists, but sometimes, especially in something as sensitive and dealing with this and sexual assault and harassment that is brought up by Blake Lively side, I think.
You need more information before deciding absolutely 1000%. And I understand that there are some people out there that no matter what Blake Lively does. She ran into a burning building and saved five dogs. Somebody would bet she didn’t save 10. That’s just kind of the way it is with her. I understand that.
But people like that, I frankly don’t really care to hear their opinion because it’s obvious they’re not dealing in reality. They’re not looking to be objective at all. They’re just going to defend Blake until. On under any circumstances, it doesn’t matter what argument you bring to them, what evidence you show them.
It doesn’t matter. You’re wrong. It’s like, I always say, facts don’t matter to people anymore. It’s all about their own self beliefs. And if it doesn’t line up with a narrative out there, they’re just going to spin it and make everything into their side. And the same goes for people that are absolutely 1000 percent defending Justin Baldoni.
You can’t be that far behind him. You can say based on what I’ve seen so far. And we kind of said it yesterday. He seems to be winning the PR battle, but that really doesn’t mean anything in the whole grand scheme of things. And I only say that because he’s released way more than she has and his stuff that he’s released seems to be okay, but we also don’t know context of every single thing that he’s released.
We know stuff here and there same with her in her first complaint. So that’s all I’m saying is I just find it hard to believe that you can be 1000 percent team Blake right now, or 1000 percent team Justin. There’s a lot of gray area here, and I think we’re just going to find out more and more over the upcoming months.
Yesterday on the Hollywood Reporter, they did an interview with a intimacy coordinator by the name of Mia Schachter. She’s an intimacy coordinator who has worked on Apple TV’s Lessons in Chemistry, HBO’s Insecure and FX’s American Crime Story. And I’m not going to sit here and read the whole interview.
I would suggest to you to go read it. I wouldn’t say it’s defining one way or another because. I already know how people are going to read this interview. If you’re team Blake, you’re probably going to be like, yes, I totally agree with what she’s saying. And if you’re team Justin, I know 1000 percent your response to this interview is going to be.
I bet you Blake Lively paid this person to do this interview. It’s almost like Blake wants to do this interview, but she can’t. So she’s getting someone else out there, who’s an intimacy coordinator, to basically talk about what Blake went through. Because in this interview, this intimacy coordinator In her answers, seemingly sides with Blake on everything.
Now, the biggest thing that stuck out to me in this interview, and I want to read this answer was the question was normally, if you were going to shoot a scene where characters are kissing, would you discuss that beforehand? And this intimacy coordinator said this. And intimacy coordinator would, but there’s two main reasons why people bring on an intimacy coordinator, either simulated sex or nudity.
Anything else that could be considered intimate, we’re not always present or required. In a scene like this, it’s really common, and they’re talking about the scene that Justin Baldoni Lawyers released to the public in a scene like this. It’s really common that you wouldn’t bring on an intimacy coordinator because there’s no simulated sex or nudity.
And there’s not even kissing written into the scene. We saw that from the script excerpt. I know that there were two intimacy coordinators credited on this film, but it doesn’t surprise me at all that they wouldn’t have had an intimacy coordinator present for this scene. And intimacy coordinator would have been very clear.
We are not doing any kissing. This is the kind of touch that is on the table. Nothing else is we’re not going to bring anything into the scene that we haven’t discussed prior end quote. So that quote was interesting to me because of this. She says people only bring in an intimacy coordinator for two reasons.
Simulated sex or nudity. Well, if you’ve seen it ends with us, there’s neither of those in this movie. There’s no simulated sex scene in this movie. There’s no nudity in this movie. So my question then becomes, is there a person that’s a little below an intimacy coordinator? Who comes in and talks about scenes like the one we’re discussing here because there’s plenty of Gosh, you just take network television network television, whether it’s I don’t know Grey’s Anatomy.
I’m just thinking of some Scandal, you know, I’ve never really seen scandal. I know it had some hot and steamy scenes in it I’m talking about any network show that has hot and steamy makeout scenes. We never see nudity and we never see Maybe you don’t even see simulated sex again, but then again, I don’t know the true definition of simulated sex, but you get what I’m saying.
If they’re only brought in for simulated sex or nudity, what about a hot steamy makeout scene? You’re putting two people in a TV show or a movie that have never had any sort of intimate scenes together. And now they’re being told we want a hot and heavy makeout scene, whether it’s, you know, somebody walking into the office and he just, you know, Takes her down on the desk.
Well, I’m sorry. There’s no simulated sex there, and there’s no nudity there. But clearly that can be a situation where what if the guy Because he’s shooting a scene. He’s supposed to be acting like, Hey, I’m really into this woman. It’s hot and heavy. What if he gets very handsy in that scene? According to this woman, there’s no intimacy coordinator for something like that.
So two people, a man and a woman doing a scene together. That’s just a heavy make out scene. If they’ve never made out before and they’ve never had a scene together before, how do they know what either of the other person wants? If there’s nobody directing them, what they can and can’t do, which is I’m assuming what an intimacy coordinator does.
How do you feel about this? How do you feel about this? Like you’re walking through the scene before you shoot it. Well, what about a heavy makeout scene? It just seems like you’re opening yourself up to a situation where you’re going to be putting a woman in a very uncomfortable position. On a heavy make out scene, simulated sex, nudity.
I totally get why you would have an intimacy coordinator for that. But if there’s none on set for what about when two of us are supposed to act like we’re in love and we’re at a bar, I’m talking about this scene and it ends with us and there’s nuzzling, there’s looking into each other’s eyes. There’s neck kissing.
If there was no intimacy coordinator for that scene, I can totally see why. Wait a second. I don’t feel this is right. Why are you doing this? But Blake in the moment didn’t want to say anything. Didn’t want to stop anything down. Didn’t want to tell him to stop. And I get it. So that’s my whole question about this.
If there was two intimacy coordinators credited on this film, which we believe there was, but this intimacy coordinator in the Hollywood Reporter interview yesterday, Mia Schacter, if she’s saying only two reasons why they bring in an IC simulated sex or nudity, well, that didn’t happen in the scene on in ends with us.
So yeah. You’re leaving a lot open to interpretation, and you’re leaving a lot to these actors to figure it out. And, it just seems like you’re opening yourself up to harassment charges. By not having anybody look into the scene. And shit, Justin’s the director of that scene. He’s the director of the movie.
So I, again, I kind of throw my hands up really, because I don’t think anything is set in stone in this case at all. There is a lot of perception versus reality in this case, and there’s so much that we still haven’t gotten to, but that’s the one thing that stuck out to me. Go read the interview. It’s called, well, it says an intimacy coordinator’s take on that awkward, it ends with us video.
It came out yesterday around 10 30 in the morning. It’s by Rebecca Keegan. It’s on Hollywood reporter. And yes, if you read these answers by this intimacy coordinator, it certainly seems like she’s in the camp of, I understand what Blake went through during the scene. So yes, Blake Lively fans will absolutely love this interview and point to it as see Justin crossed the line and Justin’s people.
I already know we’re going to say. It’s clear that Blake’s PR team made sure this interview got out there because it’s pointing Blake in a very positive light. I already know that’s what their stake is. So again, you just kind of throw up your hands. We all watched the same video and there are a lot of people that think nothing wrong here, and there are a lot of people that think he was making her uncomfortable.
So what do you do? And one thing I do want to make clear about this interview with the intimacy coordinator that Hollywood reporter put out yesterday. It’s like, okay, hearing from an intimacy coordinator about what happens on set and why they’re used and what’s the role of an intimacy coordinator.
That’s great and all. This person was not the intimacy coordinator on the set of It Ends With Us. So, yeah, we appreciate your insight, but not to be disrespectful here, but who cares what you think about this case when we don’t know what was or wasn’t agreed to in the scene between Blake and Justin.
You’re just giving it from an outsider perspective. Fine. Dandy. Like I said, just inside, probably going to think it was put out there by Blake’s people. And they made sure that someone who favored Blake in this scene and in this scenario. Is the one who did an interview, but for me, again, I don’t want to disrespect this person.
I’m sure there are great intimacy coordinators on the shows that they’ve worked on. What do I care what they think about the SNS with us scene when they didn’t work on the set and they have no idea what was agreed to and what wasn’t agreed to none of us do. We need to start hearing from the people involved.
It’s somebody that was there on set. Did they see anything? Did they hear anything? How about the two intimacy coordinators that were credited on this film? What was that? Can they speak to us? Can we actually hear from them? I think that might be a little more relevant than some random. Just thinking out loud.
