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See site for details. Alright, the biggest news of the weekend came down Friday night. I happen to be out at the back to the future musical. A hell of a time for this to drop, but. Clayton Eckard, as we know, won his trial against Laura Owens. She owes him $150,000 in court fees. Obviously they were going to appeal that decision.
Her lawyer, David Ingris appealed that decision. It has been around 200 days since the appeal was made and the decision finally came down, denied so. Nothing has changed. The appeal was denied. He wasn’t even granted oral arguments. So now what? I do wanna say something about David Ingris. A lawyer that I have had contact with, we’ve had four phone calls.
All of them were recorded. He knew they were being recorded because I just didn’t want him to turn anything against me. And as I told you at the time, the calls themselves were fine. He’s actually a normal guy when I spoke to him, but then this guy that he portrays in his blog on his YouTube channel and on his tweets is a totally different person than the one I spoke to.
That’s why I have such an issue with him, and the biggest reason why I stopped talking to David, Jens had nothing to do with, we were just never gonna end up doing a podcast together. It had to do with the fact that it was basically like banging my head against a wall talking to this man. Because he has his own narrative in his head and he didn’t wanna listen to anything that anybody had to say before he took over the case in April of 2024.
He didn’t care yet. That’s where all the JFC crew came in and that’s where all the JFC crew knows so much more about the case than he did. But he didn’t wanna hear it. So it’s like, why am I talking to this man? He clearly doesn’t want to hear from hear about any sort of reason and. The reason why people are so staunch to defend Clayton in this case, and the reason why so many people like Dave Neil and Lauren Nay, and Omar, and so many others out there, the JFC crew, the reason so many people were invested in this was because there were so many details about this that went even before Clayton was around stuff that David Jing.
Was basically telling me over the phone, look, I don’t care about the stuff that happened before I took over the case. I’m here to win this case. Then you lost the case and then you said, okay, I’m going to appeal it. And you saw the videos that I posted this weekend, all clips from his videos over the last three to six months where he said he was going to win and there’s no chance in hell Clayton’s gonna win on the appeal.
And of course, look, he’s the only person that thought this. Obviously Laura thought they were gonna win, but Laura just follows whatever David says. David puts Laura on his YouTube channels and his YouTube shows, and she just sits there like a puppy and she’s only allowed to speak. When spoken to, I’d never understood why David Jerris ever put Laura on any of his YouTube videos.
She literally doesn’t speak. He would just sit there and bloviate and pound his chest about how great he is and how stupid the JFC crew is and call Dave Neil names. All the while. Look, 99.9% of us knew the appeals court was going to shoot this down and deny it. Every time I had Rachel Juarez on, you’ve heard her, she’s just this guy isn’t making any sense.
Talking about David Ingris. He’s not making any sense. He’s interpreting Rule 26 wrong. And that’s what the courts basically came out and said in their denial of the appeal, they say her rule 26 argument is not grounded in law or fact. Exactly what Rachel Juarez literally said every time she came on the podcast talking about this, she’s he’s not interpreting Rule 26 correctly.
And I would even try and play devil’s advocate with her and just be like, okay, but if he’s saying this is there any possible way, and she’s I guess a 1% chance, but he’s interpreting this wrong and he’s going to lose the appeal, yet he’s sat there and pounded his chest. It’s one thing for David Ingris.
Look, if he wants to start a YouTube channel and talk about this case to get more of Laura’s side out there, that’s fine. He’s allowed to do whatever he wants to do. But if he would’ve taken a better approach and just been like, look, I think we got a good case. I think we’re solid on these particular cases that I think we can win the appeal here.
But that’s not the approach he took. All he did was call other people names who told him, you’re not gonna win, you’re. Misinterpreting Rule 26. He calls people names. He shouts people down on Twitter. He doesn’t allow any sort of back and forth conversation. It’s just his way or the highway. So yeah. I can gloat Dave Neil can gloat Nora Lauren Nay can gloat.
Omar can gloat. We all can. Megan Fox, we all can gloat over this because number one, we knew it was coming and number two, he didn’t and was so boastful about how there was no way he was going to lose the appeal. Another reason why he could have just said, look, we think we got a good case. We never know what can happen.
It can go both ways. You never know what the court’s gonna think. That’s not the approach that he took. That’s what makes this so gratifying that the appeals court shot him down because we all knew it was coming, and yet this guy couldn’t see this coming from one foot in front of his face. Just absolutely.
There’s no way in his in hell that he was gonna lose this case, and yet he did. And he got a complete SmackDown by the Court of Appeals who literally gave an 11 page answer to this and basically shot down all of his points as a lawyer to say, rule 26 wasn’t even grounded in law or fact and. What was the thing we kept going over with Rachel Juarez and Dave Neil.
It’s just like this guy is so hung up on Rule 26 and he thinks he is so right about this and he’s gonna win this case hands down. And he didn’t. And in the denial, they literally said, your argument is not based in law or fact. Something we were saying for months, but this guy couldn’t get it through his thick skull.
He’s literally lost every single thing about this case, and it is fucking hilarious. It really is. You know what he is. You know what David Jingles reminds me of right now? He reminds me of an incoming freshman in college who’s pledging to a fraternity and a fraternity that is very proficient in hazing the incoming freshman.
So what they’re doing is they’re bending David Ingris over a table and they’re taking a paddle to his ass and just whack. And he’s supposed to sit there as an incoming freshman and say, please sir, can I have another whack, please, sir. Can I have another? That’s what David Ingris is, except the person doing the paddle.
Whacking on his ass is not some fraternity. It’s the Arizona Court of Appeals. And the Arizona court system because this guy is getting paddle whacked every single time he says anything about this case because he immediately gets shot down. It is glorious. It is great. Rejoice everybody. We all knew this was coming.
He didn’t, and now, now he’s gonna take this to the Arizona Supreme Court and if they don’t take it, he’s going to the US Supreme Court with it. So we’re gonna have more fun. I said in my tweets on Saturday, this guy should just shut up and stop. This case is over. He’s never going to win. But you know what?
Good. Take it to the Arizona Supreme Court, take it to the US Supreme Court. He’s already saying in his blog over the weekend, he’s going to win the US Supreme Court because there’s a case that was very similar to this one, where in Kentucky somebody lost at the trial court. Somebody lost at the Court of Appeals, but they won the US Supreme Court.
And he thinks because that happened, it’s the same is gonna happen for Laura’s case. Good. Keep saying it because when it doesn’t happen, like we all know, it won’t. We’ll be able to dunk on you again and you’ll get paddle whacked by not only the Arizona court system, but now the US Court system. Thank you, sir. May I have another?
