Reality Steve


Podcast #136 – Interview with Haley Stevens, the Ex-Girlfriend of Jed Wyatt

A lot to cover in today’s podcast as we speak to the woman Jed was dating before he appeared on the “Bachelorette,” Haley Stevens. I know a lot of you have questions, I know a lot of you are sick of her, and I know a lot of you are calling her an opportunist. Just listen to the podcast. That’s all I ask. Haley has been a musician for 10 years, long before she met Jed. Yes, when she speaks out, coverage of her being musician is going to be known, but it’s not like she’s headlining at the Grand Ole Opry next week either. We cover everything from their relationship pre-show, how she handled things during filming, the interviews, she’s done, and post-show what’s been happening. There are spoilers in this so you’ve been warned. Also, there is a part around the 1 hour 14 min mark where Haley and I get our wires crossed and I reveal to her something about someone from Jed’s past who came to me after Haley’s story last week, which was a pretty detailed description of their time together. Haley didn’t know about this til I told her. This is the “Wanna makeout y/n” I mentioned last week. Their relationship was more than that, lets just say. However, after I accidentally revealed it to Haley, I wanted to make sure it was ok to run so I contacted the woman myself to make sure it was ok I made more known about her relationship with Jed and if she wanted it removed, and she said it was fine. Her name is never mentioned, she doesn’t want to talk about it publicly, but really only 4 people will even know who we’re talking about – me, Haley, Jed, and this woman. Jed knows what he did. Just another red flag against him. Lets just say Haley is none too thrilled to hear about this. If you’d like to respond to the interview (or not if you’re just gonna troll her), her Twitter account isn’t used very much, but she’s (lyricsandlipstick) on IG. I again thank Haley for telling her story and covering as many details as possible in this interview. Hope you all enjoy it and give it a chance before calling her out.

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Music written by Jimmer Podrasky
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(SPOILERS) This podcast will have spoilers in it from the very beginning as Haley joins me to discuss the show’s ending & how I first heard about her (5:53), everything about her relationship pre-show with Jed (14:28), how their relationship was defined (30:26), why did she come forward with her story (43:35), how was it while he was off filming (49:03), the details in the interviews that she’s done (58:31), and we talk about everything that’s happened post-show since Jed returned home from filming (1:08:30).

Twitter – @SweetLeahMusic
Instagram (Personal) – lyricsandlipstick
Instagram (Music) – sweetleahmusic

Here was the interview she did yesterday morning with Bobby Bones for those who are complaining she changes her story. What she told him and what she told me were the same. We were just able to dive in deeper to subjects on mine because of no time constraints…

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  1. adelina

    June 27, 2019 at 9:58 AM

    Okay so I logged on here to read the Reader Emails content posted yesterday. I am commenting on this particular post, not because I plan on listening to this podcast but because I think this girl needs to get over it. It would be one thing if RS was one of her only outlets, but she seems to have told this story to death. Me thinks this is nothing more than sour grapes. Move on honey. Clearly Jed did you a favor. You escaped a less than stellar guy and you have 3 or 4 new listeners to your music. Bye girl bye.

  2. crushonspivey

    June 27, 2019 at 12:33 PM

    Yeah she needs to get over it and I really think she already has. She is just using this chance herself to get her name out there and for fame. Nothing more. This is her chance to get some attention for her music and she is no different than Jed here in the fact that he used the same Bachelor platform to get attention for his music. So don’t hate the players, hate the game cuz both Jed and Haley got hustle.

    And I could honestly care less if he dumped this chick to go on the Bachette. They obviously weren’t that committed. More like friends with benefits. But man they seem well suited for each other. Both attractive, marginally talented, and love the game and got hustle. Good match otherwise.

  3. dbla31

    June 27, 2019 at 1:29 PM

    Ok, after reading the above two comments have to put in my $.02 and agree with what Steve has said previously. NO WONDER women never come out with stories about douchy guys. It’s unbelievable how many people will side with the DBs! Thank you Haley for telling your story. I hope Hannah taps into her “Hannah Beast” self and kicks Jed to the curb on ATFR. Did Haley have a ring on her finger? No, but after vacationing with a guy and being told “I love you” “I’ll be back for you when this is over” you deserve more than to be ghosted. And to the guy/girl who said Jed and Haley are both attractive, I haven’t seen anything attractive about him from day 1. She can do SO much better than this loser. That is all!

  4. Jamie32114

    June 27, 2019 at 1:45 PM

    Yes,I agree..if she wouldn’t have gave her story to everyone and anyone.. I mean, he dated her for 6 month..still a while but not years.. AND the fact that he came home and didn’t contact her, in my opinion is better and shows maybe he does want to be with Hannah

  5. crushonspivey

    June 27, 2019 at 1:49 PM

    dbla31, plenty of men and women across the world get ghosted by people in dating life. This is not unique to men or women. Plenty of men could tell a similar story than this one. Probably even with former female contestants from this show. And this is not a #believeher issue either. No assault, just him being an idiot, but again, happens all over. So let’s not conflate this into something bigger than it was, especially since she says he told her 3 weeks into dating that he might be doing this. He told her was in advance. She knew. Was he still stupid about how he handled it? Yeah. Are the odds good that after he got back from the show he couldn’t contact her due to terms of his Bach contract? Yeah, they are. Was Jed a skeezy opportunist? Yeah, and I believe her. But she is also doing this huge PR tour over a former guy she dated for 4 freaking months. 4 MONTHS, and he told her 3 weeks into dating he was probably doing the show. Now she’s done People Mag, a huge country Radio interview. Podcasts. So yeah, she is using the platform too. I can believe her about him being a player and also see a bigger picture here too with her PR blitz. They are not mutually exclusive.

  6. tinyred500

    June 27, 2019 at 3:07 PM

    I’m only part way through Hayley’s podcast. She openly admits that Jed told her that he had applied to go on The Bachelorette, and they had discussions about it. She said she continued to see him despite knowing what might happen, and could get the call to go on the Bachelorette. She was partly complicit at least.

    As much as I dislike the whole Jed story, he did have enough honesty to tell Hayley about the possibility of being a contestant and was going to use it as a platform for his music, but just not enough honesty and decency to call Hayley after filming to say he wouldn’t be seeing her anymore. My unease comes with the dishonesty with the lead, we don’t know if he told Hannah all this. I don’t have a great feeling with Hayley and her talking to so many media outlets, though she might have thought ‘what the Hell, he’s dumped me, so I might as well use this bit of exposure for my own benefit’. It doesn’t make it right but I can understand it.

    We mustn’t forget the producers role in all this. They knowingly cast contestants that aren’t there for the right reasons, over the last few years, this has escalated. They are very complicit in all this. They all use each other, the producers use contestants, the contestants use the platform for their own cause etc., and outsiders pick up the crumbs that are left over.

  7. wiggy5

    June 27, 2019 at 4:20 PM

    You didn’t listen to the podcast!! She doesn’t have sour grapes- no name calling etc -just facts! Jed is not trustworthy — hopefully Hannah figures that out…

  8. wiggy5

    June 27, 2019 at 4:25 PM

    Totally agree! The guys a douche bag and the sooner Hannah figures that out the better. I’m older and wiser and honestly I can’t believe people are siding with this asshole. She never put them down; she never called him names etc. etc. She’s totally believable and if Hannah stays with this guy it’s going to be her problem. She and every woman out there deserves better!

  9. justsaying

    June 27, 2019 at 6:15 PM

    Damn, how broke is Jed. Haley had already paid for the Bahamas and yet they were splitting the bills on the trip on HER birthday!? How friggin rude!!

    Damn, damn, Jed needs therapy. He can lie straight-face with his “I-love-yous” and sleep around without any remorse. He had the nerve to judge Luke – sheesh! Sociopath??

    Haley, you’re beautiful, articulate and you have a 10-year career. Everything that should happen, should happen. Everything worked out how it’s suppose to work out. You deserve so much more.

    Hannah, you’re beautiful, articulate and you were friggin Ms Alabama USA. Everything that should happen, should happen. Everything worked out how it’s suppose to work out. You deserve so much more.

  10. corn29

    June 27, 2019 at 8:31 PM


    > NO WONDER women never come out with stories about douchy guys.
    >It’s unbelievable how many people will side with the DBs! Thank
    > you Haley for telling your story.


    1,000,000 this!

    I thought the exact same thing.

    And someone with the name, “crushonspivey” has ZERO room to talk if you’re idolizing a stupid, vapid, shallow, judgmental, fame-you-know-what, that is otherwise known as Ashley Spivey.

    Team Haley all the way!

  11. r12b12

    June 27, 2019 at 8:52 PM

    I feel for this girl. I hope she gets a break from the drama and finds peace. I can’t imagine getting screwed over in such a public way and having people judge how you deal with it no matter what you do. I’m truly confused by people telling her to move on and stop going on a PR tour, and excusing Jed’s behavior as regular guy behavior. Unlike Jed, Haley doesn’t seem to think she’s somehow going to land a big music career out of this mess, and she seems aware that no one is going to remember her name in a month. If that was the case, she could have conspired with him to confront him on the show and really make a name for themselves. She seems to be doing a pretty good job of moving on and doing her gigs. It’s not her fault that she got no closure from him and has to keep running into him and hearing about him. Yes it’s bizarre that she would want to date someone who is going on the Bachelorette, but I understand it more after hearing her talk about it. His behavior is not just typical guy ghosting behavior— I don’t think the term “ghosting” even applies if you’ve gone to the Bahamas together, said “I love you”, and met each other’s families. No one forced him to text her after landing in LA or to write her love notes to make sure she’d be waiting for him if the show didn’t work out. What Jed did is just being a thoughtless, reckless, and unfaithful person who doesn’t care about anyone but himself.

  12. nlfollett

    June 27, 2019 at 10:59 PM

    At 4.15 on the Bobby Bones interview he states that ABC casting asked him to be on the bachelorette, when he had a girlfriend, as they wanted someone funny and goofy. Does this happen all the time? If so, it’s no wonder situations like this arise.

  13. simplybd

    June 28, 2019 at 4:48 AM

    On the first episode she sent home Scott Anderson for having a girlfriend. How is Jed any different? He also had a girlfriend at home, and, after sending Scott home, Hannah specifically asked the guys if anybody else had anyone at home. Saying “I love you” and telling her he would come back to her, in my mind, means she was Jed’s girlfriend. There is no excuse for Jed’s behavior.

  14. Stephanie

    June 28, 2019 at 6:38 AM

    Ladies if you are going to write hurtful comments just stop and think about this. Men run this world and you know why? Because they have so little competition from us. All they have to do is stand back and watch us destroy each other. Make a change and either be supportive to other women or be quiet.

    To Haley- you’re so brave and beautiful! You’re a great musician and if something good came out of this mess and you’re able to gain more attraction towards your passion, I think that’s a win! You’ve done a wonderful job of focusing on the positive feedback and I wish you nothing but encouragement on your journey!

  15. ctrealitygirl

    June 28, 2019 at 7:50 AM

    crushonspivey…as someone who’s been “ghosted” many times over in the world of online dating, I can tell you it is NOT acceptable behavior. I’d love to know what’s happened to the men in this world. Is it so damn hard to be up front and honest with someone? It’s high time men were held accountable for their bad behavior, and especially for guys who offer themselves up as contestants on reality dating shows where their actions are bound to come to light. What Jed did was NOT nice, and the fact that Hannah made an example out of Scott on the first night, means she’ll be labeled a hypocrite if she allows Jed to get away with doing the same thing. There’s something about Jed I just don’t like, long before Steve spilled the story about his having GF back home. I think Hannah could do way better. My vote is for Tyler

  16. kathyfrank1222

    June 28, 2019 at 10:26 AM

    I do understand that the other woman doesn’t want to be attacked like Haley is and I feel for her a little. My issue is that Haley had no problem with Jed going on and playing Hannah, no thought that there was another person who would potentially be hurt. She is only upset because she got hurt also.

    Don’t get me wrong Jed is a world class low life but Haley had no problem with it.

    Just my 2 cents

  17. justsaying

    June 28, 2019 at 11:36 AM

    Jed convinced Haley that the show is all scripted and it’s an unreal setup. He took advantage of Haley’s love for him and manipulated her with his narrative.

    Haley did admit she’s wrong to let him go on the show and she takes full responsibility for it. Besides, you really think whatever Haley said to Jed will stop him from going on the show?

  18. nursej

    June 28, 2019 at 3:32 PM

    (From that episode when she was wearing the white dress)…
    Interesting that Hannah even pointed out that she was giving “all” the guys the “benefit of the doubt” when they were ganging up on Luke P (no I’m not excusing his actions at all) – just saying…

  19. sailor2000

    June 28, 2019 at 8:55 PM

    I agree with you 100%. So Hannah let go some dude on the first night because he had a girlfriend prior to the show, and made a big scene… I sure hope she does the same with Jed at the After the Rose. She should get back together with Tyler C.

  20. ladyjane747

    June 29, 2019 at 9:59 AM

    I have no doubt this happened and the guy’s a douche, but I still don’t get WHY she’s sharing this story. She states that it was coming out and she was being outed and pressured. So what? Step away from the social media and live your life. Couples break up all the time and sometimes the woman’s the douche and sometimes it’s the guy and sometimes it’s both. These things happen in life and she even admits she should’ve broken it off with him when he told her he was going on the show. Obviously, he’s not that into you if he wants to go on a dating show. She’s doing this for the attention. I get it and I even get why she would deny she’s doing it for the “fame” and promo for her music career – but c’mon, we all know why she’s doing it.

  21. thecuriousgeorgette

    June 29, 2019 at 11:40 AM

    @ladyjane747 – I think she feels morally obligated to come out with it because Hannah deserves to know. Hannah let that Scott guy go home on the first night, if she had known about Haley and Jed the first night, she would have sent Jed home, too.

  22. justsaying

    June 29, 2019 at 12:52 PM

    All the Jed-protectors complaining how Haley allowed him to go to deceive Hannah and why she had to go to every media outlet. Well, she’s come forward warning everybody what type of jerk he is. Haley’s no longer complicit by coming forward, get it now??

  23. notimpressed

    June 29, 2019 at 3:51 PM

    I didn’t think anything could have been more boring than Steve’s podcast with Amanda Stanton. I stand corrected

  24. nursej

    June 29, 2019 at 4:36 PM

    Agree with ctrealitygirl and Stephanie!
    Haley provided context to their thoughts going into the reality show process (without knowing what it entails and how it would unfold).
    Calling Jed out for what he did is fair game and given all that we have seen with Hannah – she would want to know, and is likely thankful!

  25. nursej

    June 29, 2019 at 9:33 PM

    notimpressed – Kacie B (Boguskie – from Ben’s season) was dull as well.

  26. nursej

    June 29, 2019 at 9:37 PM

    …Oh yeah and Jonathan Treece AKA Dr. Ticklemonster. VERY nice guy but it was a boring convo.

  27. tinyred500

    June 30, 2019 at 2:34 AM

    Try Samantha Steffen who I thought was the worst; I struggled through that podcast. I learnt absolutely zilch about her, only that she didn’t have any real opinions about anyone etc., or recollection of her time on The Bachelor.

  28. nursej

    June 30, 2019 at 3:38 PM

    Yes! Forgot about her.

  29. rob22

    July 1, 2019 at 5:24 PM

    So, the whole ghosting thing is just rude, despite the fact that it seems to be an accepted way of moving on. Even in my professional career it seems people are OK with just ceasing communications instead of just saying something like, “we decided not to continue” or whatever. It really is that easy. All Jed had to say was “hey, sorry it worked out this way, but it did”. How hard is that? Now, I do think that she’s complicit in his little plan to improve his brand. She thought it was standard stuff and was OK with it. But you have to give her credit for owning up to it and admitting not considering that Hannah is a real person with real feelings. Anyway, Jed is a douchebag for leading this woman on, sleeping with yet another woman besides even Hannah, and then ghosting her and going off with Hannah. Anyone who thinks Jed’s just a cool guy should really listen to the sequence of events. Not cool. If you want to break up with someone, fine. Break up with them. But don’t cheat on the woman, go on a dating show and then ghost her after exchanging I love you’s.

  30. notimpressed

    July 1, 2019 at 9:49 PM

    It was riveting to hear about the inspiration for Amanda Stanton’s clothing line, which (predictably) was…… Nothing! At least the other podcasts were about the show . t

  31. notimpressed

    July 1, 2019 at 9:51 PM

    Agreed. Total waste of time. I liked Steve’s previous podcast format better where he took listener questions the whole time

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