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Podcast #46 – Interview with Amanda Stanton & Peter Joins the “Winter Games”

I think we’ve got a good next few weeks lined up of guests on the podcast. I don’t want to jinx anything going forward, but today we’re off to a good start as Amanda Stanton joins me. Obviously one of the more polarizing figures in this franchise due to who she’s dated (and been engaged to) and how much media coverage her relationships have gotten. We dive into all of that in today’s podcast. If you’re expecting a Josh bash session, you will be disappointed. We do spend a good 20 minutes discussing their relationship, but it’s safe to say Amanda is in a better place now than she was, say, 6 months ago when they were at each other’s throats in the media. Could she have given more details about their relationship in this podcast? Sure. But then the reaction is, “Why do you keep trashing Josh? Just let it go.” So for that, I respect her answers. No need to re-ignite the flames of an old relationship that had a lot of bad blood in the media already. I think you will enjoy her candor though as she is very honest about things and the mistakes she felt were made. As always, if you want to respond to the interview, please include Amanda’s Twitter handle (@amandastantonnn) in your replies so she can see them. Really appreciated Amanda taking the time to do this and I hope you all enjoy.

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(SPOILERS) Amanda joins me to talk about how she got cast on the “Bachelor,” how long did she think she’d last (6:22), her first 1-on-1 in Mexico City (8:18), Olivia’s “Teen Mom” comment that was blown out of proportion (11:34), Ben meeting her daughters on her hometown (15:57), going on Paradise last summer (20:50), what she knew about Josh beforehand (22:12), any hesitation about getting engaged (24:01), the mistake of Josh moving in so quickly (26:55), what she thought her role in the demise of the relationship was (34:40), what made her go back on BIP this summer (45:36), her decision to break up with Robby (48:25), the Robby cheating allegations from a July concert (53:00), did Robby meet her kids (59:05), her last contact with Josh (1:01:46), is she done with Bachelor shows (1:04:28), people bothered by her doing the shows and leaving her daughters (1:06:05), social media post show and writing a book (1:08:32), and finally Rapid 10 (1:20:14).

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In case you missed Fleiss tweets last night, here’s what he sent out:

They haven’t given many details exactly what this show will be about other than some generic stuff and that it will film in Vermont. I’m hearing it’s going to film around the beginning of December, and will air in early 2018 when the Winter Olympics are airing. The biggest thing to take from this is that it’s not just going to be a bunch of “Bachelor” contestants all competing against each other. As has been stated, it’s going to be contestants from all other countries who were on their respective seasons of the “Bachelor” competing against a US team made up of people from the franchise that we know. I honestly don’t see the appeal of this show. Does it HAVE to be done? Of course not. They’re essentially just capitalizing on the franchise’s name hoping the name itself generates interest. But they’ve never had any of their programming overlap each other before, and “Winter Games” will be airing while the “Bachelor” is airing. We don’t know what night of the week it’ll be on, but just the fact it’s airing during the same time period might be a little overkill.

With that said, announcing Peter as a contestant this early, even though no one knows what the hell this show exactly will be, is certainly interesting. Is this them saying “Sorry we didn’t case him for Bachelor, but here you go!” to appease the fans that are still bothered they chose someone else for the role? Or is it just them trying to get people excited for their new show that a majority of their fans are still clueless about. Whatever the case, the Peter crazies will get their Peter fix come early 2018, even if it’s not in the role they want to see him in. So I guess that should hold them over for the time being. Personally I feel “Winter Games” will be a giant flop and has no business being made, but that’s just me. I honestly don’t think anyone in the US really cares about contestants from the “Bachelor” in other countries since I’m guessing less than 1% have even bothered watching. Really? Like people out here have invested time into “Bachelor: Australia” or whatever? Please. “Winter Games” made a least a little more sense if it was just U.S. contestants that we all know competing against each other. It’s why people watch Paradise. I’m not sure this concept is strong enough to hold people’s interest though. I guess we’ll see.

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  1. kygirl13

    October 5, 2017 at 9:33 AM

    Well glad to see you are just as confused as to what these “Winter Games” are as we are. I have zero interest in that. I’d rather watch Not Peter as the Bachelor.

  2. mrsnora

    October 5, 2017 at 12:05 PM

    I honestly think it will be fun to bring in contestants from the other countries’ versions of the show. Seeing the same Instagram “influencers” who all have extensive relationships off camera year after year is getting old, and I think new faces with new history/drama will freshen it up. I don’t think it matters that I haven’t seen those other versions of the show. It reminds me of the season America’s Next Top Model did when half of the girls were former contestants from the English version of the show; few American viewers had seen the English girls in their original appearances on the show but it didn’t make a difference. It was just fun and a nice little twist.

    ANYWAY, all that said, I am still also confused about the prospect of Winter Games and agree that airing it at the same time as The Bachelor could be a bit much. But as long as it’s more entertaining than this most recent season of BIP I will be quite content.

  3. tinyred500

    October 5, 2017 at 1:53 PM

    The Winter Games programme, well it could be fun(?!), but I don’t understand Steve’s problem with bringing in other countries, he says it’s because viewers won’t care about the other countries contestants only the U.S. ones?! Why do viewers need a back history and story to each contestant to be interested in them to start off with?! Steve makes himself sound so insular and even a bigoted at times. He’s admitted he’s never travelled, but you don’t need to travel to be interested in other countries. He never appears to know or even sound like he’s even interested in knowing about other countries etc. Given the franchise takes contestants abroad, you’d think he’d want to know more or know more than he does.

    Anyhow, I’m guessing the other countries competing in the games would be the Canadian and Australian versions of the Bachelor and Bachelorette (if they have a Canadian one?), we don’t have a UK version (there was on a few years back with Pippa Middleton’s brother in law, Spencer Mathews, and if peeps think Arie’s a playboy, Spencer makes him look like a mere beginner and saintly). 😉

    Not sure I’m going to listen to Amanda’s podcast, I’ve not listened to the last few.

  4. lucymeowkin

    October 5, 2017 at 1:58 PM

    I do try to catch the English spoken versions of international Bachelor/Bachelorette shows. I’m really looking forward to seeing some of those contestants on the Winter Games.

    I know it will probably be a $hit show, but I’ll be watching for sure!

  5. ashleigh11

    October 5, 2017 at 3:58 PM

    @tinyred500 – yes, Canada has a Bachelor/Bachelorette show. In fact the new season of Canada’s Bachelor starts next week. They could also work in some of the Canadians that have appeared on the US Bachelor/ette. eg. Kaitlyn Bristowe, Daniel McGuire, Vanessa from Nick’s season, Jillian Harris etc. It’ll be interesting to see how they work the international aspect. I’m not too excited about the show concept just yet. I’ll probably DVR it and focus on the real Olympics If they’re on at the same time.

  6. shekwanda

    October 5, 2017 at 7:28 PM

    Nice interview. Long and very detailed, perfect for what I was doing while listening.

    I like your podcast Steve, but I do feel like suggesting you do something about your commercials. Some sort of transition, musical cue or something like that. It was literally “yeah I can imagine having two kids at a young age WELL GUYS I CAN’T COOK AND YOU KNOW IT”. It’s just weird.

  7. shekwanda

    October 5, 2017 at 7:32 PM

    Sorry, I hit publish without finishing.

    Anyway, sorry for commenting with a “complaint” in my very first comment, but yeah, it’s just weird.

    I agree with you that the Peter announcement to make fans happy. He’s one of the most important people in the franchise right now so of course they’re using him to promote this. It even showed up on Deadline which seemed super crazy as they have never reported anything on this show except ratings or the shutdown. I can imagine production asking for this or Deadline knowing how popular Peter is and wanted those clicks.

  8. bonkers

    October 6, 2017 at 2:13 AM

    Totally agree with Tinyred500… People have always baffled me with their insular attitudes like Steve’s. The internet exists now, and *gasp* *shock* it is a great tool to explore beyond your own little country, practically for free since you obviously pay for it anyway!

    Anyway I’m from Canada, and over the years have watched all of the other Bachelor shows from other countries that I could find, long before I ever knew I’d be moving to Australia one day for my own love! I also find it a bit disappointing how many Australian ladies love the Bachelor AU soooo much, but don’t follow the US shows at all and have no interest in doing so. Granted now that AU has Bachelor, Bachelorette and are doing their own BIP soon also…it is now officially too much bachelor to keep track of both countries lol…

    Anyway, I couldn’t get through the latest season of BIP for the first time ever, and have just been reading here, but I’ll definitely be checking out the Winter Games for the multicultural aspect.

  9. jchen0111

    October 6, 2017 at 11:03 AM

    I actually saw her like a week or 2 ago at Irvine spectrum lol, didn’t want to interrupt her dinner with family tho lol.

  10. atleast4characters

    October 6, 2017 at 8:15 PM

    Maybe Steve’s 1% estimate is right, but I have no idea. I, for one, watch Bachelor Australia. I did watch the first two seasons of Bachelor Canada back during the doldrums (Des / Juan / Andi), but for now AU is enough. I do enjoy AU better than the US version. There isn’t the idiotic engagement at the end, many of the women are more intelligent and interesting than those cast on the US show, interesting twists with intruders and the white rose powers, you see more substantive conversations, etc. However, I just got around to starting the 5th season and from the first episode it looks like it has taken a dive with much more of the childish drama that is so prevalent in the US version. Also, there’s no need for spoilers, as I wait until the entire season is online so I can binge watch. If I wanted to, I could skim through the last episode to see who is the final one, but I don’t bother. Frankly I don’t pay attention to Steve’s spoilers anymore; I come here mainly for his background research on the contestants.

    As Bonkers mentioned above, AU will be doing their own BiP in 2018, but I likely won’t watch it since I don’t watch Bachelorette and thus would only be familiar with half the BiP cast.

  11. tinyred500

    October 7, 2017 at 1:32 AM


    Your synopsis of the Aussie Bachelor is far more my cup of tea, (well before it went on a downwards spiral Lol) and I wish it was shown in the UK. I wish we had a British version to compare. It’s the idiotic engagement and silly dialogue in the American version that kills the credibility for me. I do wonder whether all that nonsensical over the top sentiment might drive most Brits away from watching, but if we had the original Aussie version it might work overhere. Here’s to wishful thinking! 😉

  12. angelfish

    October 7, 2017 at 9:12 AM

    I think only real superfans will actively seek out ways to watch other iterations of The Bachelor that may be available.

    Most US fans just tune into ABC when they’re told to and watch that way. It’s easy. And we’re lazy, but we’re fine with that.

    You have to REALLY want to see the other versions to seek them out. And most of us have far too many other things to watch that we don’t have to put so much effort into.

  13. adelina

    October 8, 2017 at 7:00 AM

    Sitting here listening to the Amanda Stanton podcast. I don’t know if it’s reflective of her people pleasing personality or her fear of retribution – but the way she’s dancing around saying anything direct about Josh Murray is puzzling. She just seems so afraid of saying something negative about this guy who the world knows as a royal *ouchebag.

    And she’s never read Andi Dorfman’s book? Hmmm…really? You mean to tell me you go through a bad breakup with a guy who burned you with his aggressive personality and you never look into another woman’s perspective on this guy? Doubtful.

  14. noreysol

    October 9, 2017 at 3:04 PM

    Might steal the Bachelor’s thunder! Will you be reporting the cast of Winter Games?

  15. mostshockingseasonever

    October 16, 2017 at 10:27 AM

    Oh sure it’s not about trying to become a social media influencer. What a joke. These people are all looking for their 15 minutes and then trying to hang onto every last scrap of it after.

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