You come across as incredibly insecure. The way you relish tearing other men down is pathetic. I suppose it allows you to feel superior, but you’re not. Actually you seem quite vile.
Comment: Cool. Thanks. Appreciate the support. Keep reading.
Since your going to be painfully watching this episode waiting for the good stuff at the end I thought I might help you pass the time with this kind of dumb question which is not intended for your weekly reader emails but you can put it on if you want. Based on your age I assume that you recall the TV series Growing pains from the late 80’s/early 90’s. I would then assume that you remember Mike Seavers best friend on the show was Richard Stabone, and his nickname was “Boner”. (I’m sure you know where this is going.) My question is, as a child or teenager growing up and having the last name of Carbone, were you lucky enough to get a boner related nickname? And if so did you embrace it or hate it.
Comment: Absolutely. My nickname starting in 5th grade was “Boner” and it came directly from the character on “Growing Pains.” I was fine with it actually. Since I liked the show I thought it was kinda funny. And oh yeah, chicks totally dug it.
If you receive info about Arie cheating on Lauren B while they are a couple, can you share that in your column?
Long-time lurker over here, and finally had to send in some questions for reader emails! I first found your site during Brad’s #2 season. Okay, so I’m dying to know….
1. What were the ratings for Monday night’s episode? They had to have been through the roof. Everyone on social media has been going NUTS for this finale. 7.8 million and a 2.2 rating. In any of the previous 10 episodes this season, the best they ever did was 6.5 million and a 1.8 rating. So in that aspect, it did very well. However, compared to other Bachelor finales? Still down. Chris’ finale drew 9.5 million. Ben’s finale and ATFR drew 9.5 million. Nick’s drew 8.5 million. Of course, ABC won’t mention that part.
2. Why do you think Lauren took Arie back? Lack of self-confidence, lack of brains, or something else? I think she’s kinda lost to be honest. My sense is she so badly wanted it to work between them, she’s willing to overlook all of this just to be with him. Which is great in the short term. But she has her blinders on and this will end up hurting them in the end.
3. I didn’t watch that closely, but did Becca leave her ring on the nightstand and then Arie took it? If the couple breaks off the engagement, do they have to give Neil Lane the ring back? No, I put the video in the column yesterday. Adam tweeted it out. She took it off while Arie was talking to her.
Last but not least I want to say I am a huge Challenge fan and love the podcasts you’ve done with those castmates. I am also with you that Las Vegas is amazing – my husband and I go there every year around Labor Day since he does high-stakes fantasy football leagues. Something you should try in the near future! 🙂
Comment: I’m there for the first weekend of NFL season every year, which is always the weekend after Labor Day. Done it 21 out of the last 23 years. Tradition. However, I’d never enter high stakes fantasy football. Just not my thing.
Hi Steve, totally not related to bachelor land but I’ve seen you answer some reader emails about other shows as well. I remember reading I think a while ago you were a 90210 fan (OG obviously not the CW reboot) and I’m curious what you thought or think of Melrose Place? All of the episodes are on Hulu and I’m curious about it, never watched it as a kid like I did 90210. Since you seem to have good taste in tv (FNL) I’m wondering what you thought of Melrose Place; and if you never watched it, why you didn’t since you liked 90210? From what I’ve heard over the years MP was pretty ridiculous and out there (more so than 90210) but sometimes that be be fun tv to watch. Just curious your thoughts on MP. Thanks!
Comment: Watched every episode. Loved it. Their storylines were a little more mature and a lot farther out there than BH90210, but it was still enjoyable. And for a mid 90’s drama, it had everything you needed.
Although it wasn’t close to the original in terms of likability, I also watched every episode of the 90210 reboot on CW.
This isn’t a question, really, more of a comment. The worst was when he said “I know you’re embarrassed.” That is just basking in his own power in the situation. SHE has nothing to be embarrassed about. The only person who should be embarrassed is him. The only reason she is having to cope with this pain so publicly is because of him choosing to make her confront it on camera. I am so weary of women being told they should be embarrassed because some piece of sh**t treated them poorly. Even his lingering after she told him to leave was so transparently about getting more TV–he was like the producer in the limo who has the mission of getting the “crying” shot. You’re usually right but I don’t know if you’ve ever been THIS right, even from before the season started filming. He is trash. She is a class act who would have been entitled to react far less gracefully than she did. She has nothing to be embarrassed about.
Comment: Well yes, he should be embarrassed about how he handled himself, but nobody wants to see their breakup happen in front of 7 million people either. And when you thought you were having a private meet up and all the sudden cameras are in your face. I think that’s what he was referring to.
Whoa. That was painful to watch. True to Chris Harrison’s tagline, that was definitely one of the most dramatic endings in the history of The Bachelor…ever! And you were right about the whole dang thing!
I’ve been following your posts, so I knew most of what tonight’s episode would entail. But while I watched, I couldn’t help but wonder: did the producers set up this whole thing? Like did Arie know, prior to the final rose ceremony, that Lauren was actually the woman he wanted to choose? But because the producers had heard many viewers thought Arie and this season “boring,” and were worried about ratings/pleasing viewers, did they talk Arie into proposing to Becca/staying with her long enough to make it seem real? Did they pay him to do all this? Do you think Lauren knew too? No, this wasn’t a set up.
AND, when Arie was breaking off his engagement with Becca, why the heck didn’t he just leave?!? Do you think he got paid the longer he stuck around? And why didn’t Becca react more strongly and tell him to get the heck out?!? Do you think she was in on it/got paid as well?
This whole thing is NUTS.
Comment: I’ll just say to everything in this post – no. I know everyone wants to believe a conspiracy theory and they’re all in on it, but that’s not what happened.
I was listening to the Afterbuzz TV Bachelor after show and one of the hosts was saying that an “inside source” told her that Krystal and Arie slept together on the show. Have you heard this/can you confirm?
Comment: That did not happen.
People are speculating that Claire got Becca’s ring because they look the same… any idea if there could be any truth to this theory?
Comment: Don’t know since I haven’t seen both rings up close.
Thank God Arie did what he did……otherwise we could be facing Bachelorette Lauren B, (aka “Bachelorette Wow.”) the most uninteresting, un-animated female we’ve ever had on the show. Shes like an attractive, blond-haired sack of rocks. Who is her dad, Steven Wright?
Lauren, thrilled: “Wow.”
Lauren, really depressed: “Wow.”
Lauren, startled: “Wow.”
My iguana would make a more compelling contestant. Swear to God, the woman has the personality of a dead tree branch. If she’s this devoid of expression already, I can only imagine what she’ll look like in 20 years when she has to start Botox injections. She’ll look like an escapee from Madam Tussaud’s.
I guess Arie wants a trophy wife (assuming, of couse, he even WANTS a wife.) Who knows? Maybe she’s great in bed.
Lauren, at the peak of orgasm: “Wow.”
Comment: Please, tell me what you really think of Lauren.
It doesn’t matter at this point, but I think Arie would have chosen Lauren if her date had been last instead of Becca. He seems so lame, that he just went with the girl he saw last. It could be as simple as that, yes. He’s that much of a numb nut.
Also, do you think he would have flip-flopped if it were the other way around? If he chose Lauren, do you think he would have mulled over Becca the same way? I think he would have only because it seems to fit his MO.
Again, it doesn’t matter, but I am curious as to your thoughts?
Thanks for all you do!
Comment: I think he would have, yes. Even Seinne thinks so. Heard she said it on Ashley and Ben’s podcast. And she’s a girl who was there, lived with all the girls, had 1-on-1 dates with Arie, etc.
I love your podcasts, tweets, and recaps.
You mentioned during your podcast with Arie’s ex (Sydney I believe?) that he contacted her after filming and spoke with her on the phone. You mentioned that you thought it was so that she wouldn’t speak bad about him to the press.
Do you still believe that? With everything that happened I’m wondering if he wasn’t just wavering between Becca and Lauren but if he was wavering between Becca, Lauren, and Sydney. Heck with this guy he’s probably even still reaching out to Courtney Robertson. Sydney never mentioned anything about him wanting her back. But he did call her. She would’ve said if it was to win her back. And you’ll be hearing from Courtney tomorrow on the podcast.
What are your thoughts about the Sydney situation now that we’ve seen how everything played out? Do you still think the only reason he contacted Sydney was for press purposes?
Comment: Yes. Well, that and the fact that it’s physically impossible for this guy not to contact numerous former exes since he got home.
I read your posts and listen to your podcasts every week. I am a huge fan. But really I just wanted to send you an email to say thanks for how well your columns are written and having good grammar. I appreciate it.
Steve gets an A+ in English.
Comment: Well thank you. I try my best. I know I make mistakes here and there, but for as many words as I type a column, I think I have very few grammatical mistakes. Eye hop u ceep reeding. Mye spelyng iz egcellent.
I’m sure you’ll be full of emails, but did anyone else find it hilarious that Arie said he “Wanted to do this in person”??? I guess, as opposed to the people who break up an engagement via….text? Email? Snapchat? I dunno.
He clearly wanted her to validate his feelings and tell him it’s okay… really showed his privileged, rich-kid upbringing.
I mean I’ll still – for her sake – hope they work out. But I don’t understand how anyone could have thought, and especially could continue to think that he’s a catch. She can do better.
All over the place this email, but other people have commented about how attractive or not they think the final two girls are. I really thought that Lauren was out and out drop dead gourgeous, but when I asked my friends and my boyfriend they all thought Becca was more attractive (their opinions ranged from a little to A LOT). Goes to show again and again how subjective attractiveness is.
Anyways, great work like usual, Steve, enjoy a little time off.
Comment: Very subjective. I find both girls attractive. He had a lot of good looking women this season for sure.
I’ve been reading your site since Jason and Molly. I don’t even watch the shows anymore bc between podcasts and your page, I get all the scoop I want.
Today I was listening to Olivia’s podcast and she had Robby Hayes and James Taylor. At the very end, James claimed you blackmailed him to get him on your podcast bc of some letter. Are you able to clarify, if not just to me, or in this week’s emails? I listened to him on your podcast and I don’t recall anything juicy. He mentioned lawsuit, etc. I don’t think he realizes you are friendly, if not cordial, with Olivia. But he’s also not of fan of the Bachelor people.
Anyway, just a heads up. Keep on spoiling.
Comment: He’s an ass if he said that and couldn’t be more wrong. I have the receipts James. Every word I ever corresponded with you is in my Twitter DM still. There’s no blackmail whatsoever. I was going to post your email you wrote to all of Nick’s girls whether you came on the show or not. And I told you that. I thought your best bet would be to explain yourself, told you as much, and you couldn’t have been more excited to come on. It’s all there in the twitter exchange. Need I post that for everyone to see? Sad that that’s what he’s resorted to when I did nothing but give him a platform to explain himself. Lets hope he just pipes down from here.
Congrats on another season of correct spoilers!
I’ve got to ask: was this really “the first uncut, unedited scene in reality TV history,” as Chris Harrison claimed? That seems very unlikely to me.
Comment: No. But definitely was the first one that went on for 30 minutes. 5 or 10 minutes would’ve been fine. Carrying on the way it did didn’t need to be done. Plenty of other networks have shown us continuous footage of something happening as a contestant storms off or whatever and it’s unedited. But that’s maybe a minute or two of footage. They certainly carried there’s out the longest for sure.
Thanks so much for your commentary and spoiling this season – would not have made it through without you. I was in college when Arie was on Emily’s season and I always liked him. Obviously, couldn’t have been more wrong about him. To say I’ve enjoyed watching him flounder would be an understatement.
Something I noticed today: the dates on his DMs to Bekah are, I think, after he got back together with Lauren. They’re dated early February – isn’t that after he got back together with her? Honestly just another piece of evidence that the guy is a douche who will always have a wandering eye. His crazies can’t even say “he’s changed now that he’s with his true love” because clearly even after winning her back, he still felt the need to DM his ex for no apparent reason.
Thanks for what you do – can’t wait to keep reading!
Comment: Yes. He was back with Lauren from when he visited her in Virginia on Jan. 16th. The guy has a serious issue with contacting exes for God knows what reason. It’s bizarre. But hey, like I said, he’s Lauren’s problem now.
Don’t even bother with his crazies. They are seriously so delusional, nothing you say to them matters. Let them live in their own little dream world. They’re pathetic.