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Bachelorette Becca Spoilers

The “Bachelor” Arie Finale Thoughts, Questions Answered, & (EXCLUSIVE) Six of Becca’s Guys Confirmed For Next Season

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RS —

Long time listener first time caller. The looming drama of Arie’s season coupled with Luke’s douchebaggery and the subsequent fallout have kept me from losing my mind during maternity leave. I have more of an observation (not even my own because I generally fall asleep watching this show, particularly this season—blame it on Arie or new baby, either is a legitimate source of the narcolepsy) rather than a question per se.

I hate to play the role of bachelor conspiracy theorist, it’s not a good look, but my sister made the following observation after overnight dates: “I think he always knew he was going to pull the switches based on two comments during the overnight suite. He told Lauren something to the effect of ‘things will get harder before they get easier’ whereas he told Becca ‘I’m so afraid of making the wrong choice.’”

I thought it was an interesting observation and thought it merited my first email. I guess we’ll never know what he knew, when he knew it, and what was going through his head (big and little—well, hisnlittle head is less of a mystery), but I thought I would throw it out there and see if you (or those who regularly comment on your posts) have any thoughts. If he knew he was going to do this for publicity/sponsorships he is a psychopath.

Thanks for the column space and the podcasts.

Comment: Yeah, we won’t. But the biggest conspiracy theory going around is this was all planned, everyone was in on it, and they all faked it. It’s just not true. But just like the Arie Sheep, if that’s what someone believes, nothing you say will convince them otherwise. I know that’s not what happened so that’s good enough for me.

Hi, Steve,

Long time reader, first time emailer. You make this show bearable to watch, you’re very funny and insightful, I wish you’d post a column every day, yadda yadda yadda…

So. This whole season Lauren has shown zero personality. She’s a basic white girl with supposed “walls” up around her heart. Do you think it’s possible that she’s actually been playing Arie? Played it right so she was a little mysterious, a little more of a challenge, so that stuck with him, and she knew she’d make it far? Then if he picked her in the end (which she seemed to be really expecting) and inevitably showed his shady true colors by cheating on her/breaking her heart after the show, that she would be in a position of gaining an enormous following on social media not to mention lots of sympathy?

I’ve just found it incredibly hard to believe that she really loves Arie and is really into him and their “love story.” If she is, she’s the most gullible, impressionable person, and deserves whatever she gets.

If, on the other hand, she’s a good actress, and is manipulating Arie, that would be much more impressive, and actually pretty smart, because she only stands to gain from Arie’s inevitable future douchebaggery. She can become another victim and it will be “even more heartbreaking” because of the trials they’ll have gone through post-show.

Thoughts? I just feel like people are taking it for granted that Lauren really loves Arie, and sort of feeling bad for her or questioning her judgement. If your plan was to milk your heartbreak on this show all along, Lauren couldn’t have had a better target in Arie, or a better storyline to play out for her.

I guess time will tell…

Thanks for all you do!

Comment: There is nothing about Lauren that I really understand since the day she took him back, so I’m not even gonna begin to try. Her problem to deal with now.

Hey Steve,

Long time reader here, but first time emailing. Pretty amazed at the audacity of Arie/producers to embarrass and blindside Becca like we saw last night. Even though you laid it all out for us months ago, it was still tough to watch (which seemed to be the case for the majority of viewers).

My questions are about the Happy Couple visits. You explained how multiple (if not all) of Arie and Becca’s visits had been filmed which explained her not seeing the breakup coming. Makes sense. But to your knowledge, have they ever filmed ANY of the other couple’s visits? I think it was Vanessa Grimaldi that tweeted it is only you, your fiancé, and the house—no producers, no filming.

SO, my more important question—if the producers do not normally film Happy Couple visits at all, how did they know to film them all this time? Or how did they get the footage from the visits to show us last night?

I think Fleiss replied to Jojo’s comment about the extra footage at their visits and he tried to imply that it was all from their own personal iPhone videos. Clearly, someone else was taking the videos (seemingly a producer) since both Arie and Becca were in most of them and obviously not filming one another. Just seems fishy to me.

Thanks for all the spoils and keeping it interesting. Wouldn’t be able to watch without them!

Comment: Yeah it did look like some of the footage was done by the handler’s phone and/or Arie/Becca’s phone. I don’t think that every time they were together, there was a camera crew. That looked like cell phone footage to me, and there’s always a handler that’s attending to their needs. To me it seemed like that’s where the footage came from. On the day of the break up, yes, that was a film crew, but they convinced Becca she was there.

Hi Steve!

I have a question for your reader emails.

I’m a big Ashley I and Ben Higgins fan. I’m really disappointed however that he’s hiding the Lindsay Duke thing. I wanted to see if you’ve been hearing anything with Ashley and Jared? I did notice that Kevin and Jared don’t follow each other on social media? You would think that with them being such a good friends, and Jared saying how he really doesn’t have any feelings for her that he would be happy for her.

Thanks RS!

Comment: I haven’t heard much about Ashley and Jared or what’s going on, but as is the case when most people get a new boyfriend, my guess is she and Jared don’t spend nearly as much time together and/or talking as they used to. For him, that’s gotta be a relief considering he was never into her as much as she was into him.

Hey Steve! Great post today! I love your rant on the Arie sheep. 100% on the money. Just a few thoughts/questions. Answer them or not. I’m a big girl—I can take it.

—Once Arie dumped #1 and started dating #2, did Lauren just replace Becca on the happy couple visits? Did production arrange for them to spend time together, or is that only allowed for the OG fiancé? That would be creepy for me if I were Lauren. Yes. Arie & Lauren have been having Happy Couple visits since January.

—Do you know what the contract says about filming expectations after the engagement? I agree filming the breakup was morally a sh***y thing to do. He’s an ass, and so are the producers. Couples have broken up off camera before, so this was entirely unnecessary. But if you think about it, every breakup is filmed. It’s not the same, but I’m just wondering what the contract says about post-proposal obligations, or if it says something like, “You agree to be dumped on camera for all the world to see anytime, anywhere. So don’t get engaged to Arie.” You get the idea. I think what Becca said last night holds water. You know you agree to have your dating life filmed when you signed on the dotted line. I think most people just assume it’s during the 8 weeks of filming the show and a lot don’t expect anything to happen afterwards, but if it does, it comes with the territory. Is it mandatory? No. Robert Mills said as much on his radio show that’s on page 1. Arie was not contractually obligated to break up with Becca on camera. Was it suggested and encouraged? Absolutely. But he wouldn’t be in violation of his contract if he didn’t. And the show will ALWAYS stand behind, “Well, if we don’t show you their break up, then you’ll complain about why we didn’t show it.” So that’s how they justify it in their mind.

—WHY DIDN’T ARIE LEAVE ALREADY??? Becca had to ask him like 85 times before he finally up and left. That did not make for good TV either. It was the most boring thing ever watching Not Peter Not Leave.

You’re awesome Steve! Thanks for all you do. You make this show so much better—especially this season!

Comment: Yeah, that carried on way too long unfortunately.

Hey Steve,

Your spoilers have made this painful season of The Bachelor worth watching! I’m sure I’m not the only watching stalking your site each day hoping for more news.

Question for you: I thought contestants had a pretty iron clad NDA for 1 year. How are all of Arie’s girls giving interviews on TV and on podcasts and revealing insider details? Is ABC letting them speak out so Arie gets the blame?

Comment: They’ve eased up on the social media aspect of the show in recent years. That’s quite obvious. Some people they’re more strict with than others. That’s just the way it goes.

Hi Steve…

First, thanks for all you do, making my guilty pleasure so much more fun, though last nights ATFR was painful to watch. While waiting for the rest of the finale, I have one question/observation about last night’s episode and Becca’s meeting with Arie’s family. I don’t recall in the past seasons the family ever mentioning or asking so much about the “other” girl as they did Lauren. Maybe they have and it wasn’t shown. Just seemed like it was a lot and uncomfortable for Becca… and all part of the foreshadowing of what was to come. Thoughts? Do you think they included it as part of the “story”? It’s possible, since producers prep the family beforehand about what to say.

Also, with everything happening, I was wondering if you caught the start of Unreal Season 3?

Comment: I’ve seen the first episode, but not the second yet. These last two days have been some of the busiest I’ve had in a while. I haven’t watched anything other than this show. And oh, the Challenge last night I watched at 1am because, unfortunately, (SPOILER) the only spoiler I knew this season was that Devin eliminated Bananas, so I wanted to see that.

Hey Steve!

Love what you do! I’ve been reading your site since very early on and have always appreciated your insights. I’m probably one of the few readers who has watched the Bachelor since the very first season. I loved listening to your podcast with Sarah Brice because I remember watching her season. I even remember Travis Stork as the Bachelor and not the guy from The Doctors 🙂

Onto my question. Do you think if he had picked Lauren he would have dumped her two months later and tried with Becca? It seems like the girl herself doesn’t matter, it’s more about the fact that he can’t make a decision and is so insecure that whoever he chose would have been the wrong choice and he would have gone back to his second choice. I know it’s a hypothetical question and doesn’t really matter now, but I’m still curious as to your thoughts because it speaks to Arie’s character, or lack thereof. For what it’s worth, I think he would have taken this same course of action regardless of who he chose. He was always destined for this outcome because of who he is.


Comment: Yes, I do.

Hi Reality Steve,

I don’t know if this will make it in to tomorrow’s batch. But here it goes.

Does Christen Whitney have a job other than trying to suck up to the other Bachelorette girls? She seems desperate to get into the cool girl club? I have no idea what she does.

Also every keeps saying don’t blame Lauren. I don’t but I also think it’s sketchy that she communicated to Arie knowing he was engaged to Becca. I get taking the first phone call but it sounds like they had several phone conversations which I consider to be similar to emotionally cheating on Becca. I don’t care if Becca knew they were having those conversations, I think it’s gross. I was also disgusted about how quickly Lauren took Arie back and not only that but said she was ready to get engaged to him right away. Girl, have some fucking dignity. He was engaged to someone else a minute ago. It’s definitely sketchy, but since we don’t know and will never know how much they spoke and what they spoke about from Jan. 1st til he broke up with Becca around Jan. 12th, it’s tough to kill her for it. All I know is Arie undoubtedly got assurances from her that she was willing to work on things with him once he did get a hold of her, or else the Becca break up doesn’t happen. He was hedging and won. Plain and simple.

It’s also kind of funny how Peter who didn’t want to propose got a lot of flack because it’s what expected (I get why in a sense but still) and then Arie proposes to Becca and then dumps her a month and a half later for Becca. I watch the international Bachelor shows (I’m from Montreal) and I really think the expectation to propose needs to be ceased and deceased lol. If there’s an engagement at the end, great but it shouldn’t be expected.

Lastly, I’m kind of disappointed with the reaction Becca had last night. I think her answers were too poised and polished. I know you can’t say how you would react in any given situation but still. Your man left you for another woman and your out here saying that you understand? Is the Bachelorette position worth that much to her? And then there’s the question of how she can do the Bachelorette after Chris Harrison and production knew what was going to happen and didn’t say anything to her. I’m grossed out completely.

Okay, I’m done. Thanks for what you do. I watched the first couple of episodes and then just decided to watch the Women Tell All and these last two episodes. Glad I didn’t waste my time….

Comment: My thoughts on that are on page 1. I don’t think it’s as cut and dry as that.

I have a difficult time comparing Arie to Jason Mesnick when Jason was clearly in a different place in life than Arie was when he pulled this with Molly and Melissa. Jason was a single father looking for not only a wife but also a stepmother to his child. He then dated Molly like a normal person and then they got engaged after a reasonable amount of time. Jason was mature, thoughtful and focused on truly creating a life with the woman he chose.

I don’t see those same qualities in Arie. I know they’re only a year or two apart in age, but Becca seems so much more mature than Lauren does. She seems to have a great handle on what she wants and can articulate it with grace and perspective. It seems like he picked her because she proved that she would be a great partner. So him going back to Lauren – the woman he can’t describe his feelings for, the woman who is a literal doppelganger for every other woman he has dated, the woman his parents did NOT say “she’ll give you a kick in the ass” about – makes him markedly different from Jason Mesnick.

Jason was a father (and remember, this was also a decade ago when people went on this show not angling for a career change) and because of that, he was forced to be a lot more measured in his choices. Arie has spent his entire life being a rich playboy racecar driver that is trying to improve his image by going on a reality show. Comparing him to Jason is, quite frankly, a bit of an insult to Jason.

Great job this season, Steve. This was a total sh*tshow and you deserve an award. Arie threw you a curveball and you still nailed it. Thanks again for all that you do!

Comment: Agree with all of that. The only similarity between Jason and Arie is the premise that both dumped the original girl they chose and got engaged to the girl who finished second. The comparisons end there.

Hi Steve,

I’m not sure if you are doing reader emails this week, but I wanted to send you a question and some thoughts.

1. Did you notice at the beginning of tonight’s episode when Chris Harrison said there was going to be an engagement? Was that a mistake? Or just to hype things up? I can’t believe that Lauren really didn’t know it was coming. We all saw her tell Arie that she didn’t want to wait long for a proposal. She did. I think Chris was definitely just playing hype man again. It’s his job essentially.

2. I don’t have any ill will towards Lauren, but my mouth dropped open when she said that Arie couldn’t have handled this any better. Umm, what?! I get standing by your man, but anyone can see he handled this the wrong way. Like I said earlier, I can’t for the life of me understand any decision she’s made since she agreed to get engaged. Words coming out of her mouth I feel are robotic at this point and unfortunately she’ll learn the hard way.

3. Congratulations on a completely perfect spoiler! I loved that every little detail you had spoiled turned out to be correct, down to the dates of the events! That has to be so fun and gratifying! Enjoy March Madness, and I’m confident you will spoil Becca’s season as well. Looking forward to it!

Comment: Already 6 guys into spoiling. Nothing changes around here. Been spoiling for 9 years and as long as this show is still on the air, I will spoil it. It’s what I do. Thanks for the continued support.

Congrats on other amazing season. You’re brilliant and made this whole debacle must-see TV. Even all this manufactured (and real drama) wouldn’t have been worth watching without your spoilers, commentary and insights. Bravo!

Do you think everyone would have taken Arie’s switcheroo better if we actually liked Lauren? If the tables were turned and he went back to Becca, wouldn’t we be thrilled? That’s what many wanted Rachel to do or Jake or Ben — other’s who chose the less popular winner. I know a lot of people are standing up for Lauren and saying it’s not her fault but man, she seems so one-dimensional, vapid and clueless. She makes it really hard to root for her. Perhaps if she was more relatable people may have been more forgiving or accepting?

Comment: Certainly possible, but I can’t answer for everyone. Becca has no doubt come across on TV as more likable than Lauren. That’s not saying Lauren is a horrible person or anything, but it’s clear as day who gives off a better vibe on TV.

Hey Steve,

Dallas native here. I really enjoy your blog, tweets, and podcast. I’m looking forward to the podcast with Courtney this week! (And I always love to hear from Sharleen!)

Judging by the many tweets I’ve seen (and what I read on your blog Tuesday morning), it seems I’m not alone in thinking this show has gotten a bit too exploitative. Even Catherine Lowe said she thinks the show was “distasteful” for it (probably most surprising reaction from all the former contestants, as the Lowes are like The Bachelor’s model family and they seem to have a lot of loyalty to the show – would you agree?). It absolutely was. And next season will start airing May 28th, and most people will be back watching again. They don’t care. This is a finely tuned machine that has zero care in the world for the people they cover. Their job is to produce a television show every year that people watch and they do.

Did you notice the line “Producers are grateful for #BachelorNation” right before the credits Monday night? As far as I know, that’s never been done. Maybe I’m wrong. To me, that was an indication that they knew they’d get backlash for filming the breakup and airing it the way they did. What do you think?


Comment: Yes, I’m sure there was a backhanded message behind that, no doubt. How many times did Chris Harrison address the fact last night that he’s received hate on social media? Like 5? The fact he kept bringing it to the audience’s attention

Could his new engagement be any more shallow and ick than anything? So immature. Disgusting. Blech. If they want anyone to ever watch this show after that waste of time….they better get a SINCERE bachelor….not looking for a trophy…but a mature woman who would have a sense of caution with this insincere moron.

Comment: “Anyone to ever watch this show after that waste of time?” I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that millions of people will still watch every season. Today is Overreaction Tuesday. Yes, what they did was sh***y. But people eat this stuff up and it’s not going anywhere.


The finale–talk about life imitating art. Watching that genuine heartbreak turned into emotional porn, I couldn’t help thinking that this was very much like an episode of Unreal.

I can’t tell what disgusted me more—Arie’s behavior, or the relentlessly inhuman stalking of Becca by the cameras.

First, Arie. All I can say is that the magic of the show’s production on a group of isolated young women must be awfully strong to cause otherwise sensible-enough women to fall so hard for a guy with the vanilla personality and obvious insincerity of Arie. Dude doesn’t give a s—t, never gave a s—t, and frankly has no real desire to ever give a s—t. Exhibit A, and I say this as a guy who has broken up with women before when I knew it would be painful for both of us…Arie’s behavior towards Becca after he told her the truth about Lauren. What in the name of Jason Mesnick was this guy doing following her around, insisting that she talk to him, ignoring her requests to leave, denying her the last vestiges of her dignity? Good Lord I wanted to knock the dude out. Arie—YOU BROKE UP WITH HER, and you did it ON NATIONAL TELEVISION, and you did it by CHOOSING ANOTHER GIRL over her. When you do that, you don’t get to ask her to make you feel better about what you did. Maybe, just maybe, what’s happening in front of you ISN’T ABOUT YOU ANYMORE. Holy s—t dude. Telling her how much you agonized over this or how sorry you are doesn’t absolve you. If you want to say that once, ok, say it once. When you keep repeating it, it becomes obvious that your reaction to this girl’s heartbreak is that her pain makes you look bad, and makes you feel bad.

I’m sure lots of people from this franchise (and frankly, elsewhere in the entertainment milieu) get branded with all sorts of nasty rumors and unfair characterizations of the kind of person they are. Not Arie. I believe every negative thing people say about him.

Second, the cameras on Becca. It was simply profane the way those cameras kept following her, over and over again, as she kept trying to find privacy. She was like a wounded animal trapped in a cage, and we were the onlookers, and dammit, the show must go on. Wow. My God, how outrageous that was. Most hated line of the night: “America needed to see this”. The hell we did. I half expected the Rachel chick from Unreal to be visible in the background, whispering to Arie that he really should try one more time to go talk to Becca, that it would actually help her. And then, as dumbass Arie goes off to make more “great television”, Rachel mentions via headset to Fleiss how much she wishes all the leads were as easy to work with as Arie: “he literally does whatever I say”. Whatever. That probably gives Arie more credit than he deserves, haha.

And finally…the coup de grace…is that they actually persuaded this poor girl to be the Bachelorette, which vindicates the entire franchise and wipes clean its misdeeds in what they just put on TV screens. The show can’t be all bad if even the supposed “victim” is wanting more from it and wants her shot in the catbird seat.

I’m throwing up in my mouth just thinking about it.

Comment: Nothing further to be said.

Hi Steve,

Long time fan of yours- I’ve been reading your site since Sean Lowe’s season and have been watching the Bachelor since season one (from my college days at Cal State Fullerton- had to throw in an OC shout-out)!

One question- after watching Tuesday night’s ATFR, I noticed as Arie was talking to Becca K., the camera kept panning over to Kendall crying on Bekah M.’s shoulder. Any idea what Kendall was crying about?

I hope The Bachelor/Bachelorette is on for many more years to come, just so I can keep continuing to visit your site. You can add me to the ever growing list of people who only watch the show because of your site!

Thanks for all you do!

Comment: I guess she was just really sad for her friend. Seemed a bit much, but Kendall seems to be a rather emotional person.

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  1. Susan

    March 7, 2018 at 9:08 AM

    If you haven’t seen the clip of Arie and Lauren on Kelly and Ryan today, check it out. Kelly laid into Arie, it was amazing. Why did you film it? Why couldn’t it have only been 5 minutes instead of 40? You could tell by the look on her face she was disgusted with him. Lauren just looked shell shocked, like she was about to cry. Arie kept fumbling over his words trying to explain himself.

    I was just appalled that they thought it was appropriate for him to propose, with Becca in the next room. Then to say in People they’re wouldn’t mind a TV wedding. Yeah, don’t see that happening.

    I’m just so glad the Arie S**t show is over and we can now start talking about Becca!

  2. crushonspivey

    March 7, 2018 at 9:20 AM

    I can think of AT LEAST $250,000 reasons why Becca didn’t lay into production and took the new gig. Because she is now business partners with Fleiss and got into bed with him businesswise. So she had to go easy on how it went down. That is showbiz people.

    The fact after all of these years that people still don;t see this for what it is–scripted TV–is hilarious. Did you all not learn anything from the show UNREAL? And honestly, not sure what thast show can do to top the real thing now, it has gotten so ridiculous.

    RS–keep doing what you do and make good coin off this nonsense. Makes it more entertaining in the right way. The show itself is now dull and stale.

  3. crushonspivey

    March 7, 2018 at 9:23 AM

    Also, Becca was engaged mere weeks ago, and got dumped on TV, and now we’re supposed to believe she is in a good place to actually pursue a new relationship? This show doesn’t even try to hide the farce anymore. Love is not its goal. Contrived TV drama is.

  4. marcommom

    March 7, 2018 at 9:25 AM

    One thing I noticed – Lauren barely looked at the ring when he proposed and when they were with their families. That makes me think she’d already had it for a while.

  5. akblondee

    March 7, 2018 at 9:39 AM

    I am so glad someone asked about Kendall crying on Bekah’s shoulder, I thought it was perplexing. SO glad this season is over and of course, kudos to Steve for spoiling it all for us. It’s what makes the show great for me.

  6. tinyred500

    March 7, 2018 at 10:32 AM

    I agree with both of your comments. That’s why I now think the wider audience should now be able to see just how produced and yes, contrived this show really is…by what we’ve seen on our screens this season. The producers aren’t hiding their dirty work anymore. If they can get any stupid puppet to play along, throw money at them and give people air time, they are like pigs in mud. I was always very cynical of the show when I first started watching, but that’s all on another level now. It’s become an even more twisted show in so many ways.

    It will be interesting to see whether the previous contestants who tweeted their displeasure (of how this season played out), will now have anything further to do with the franchise, or whether it will be forgiven and their tweets really meant little or nothing at all.

  7. leighleighleigh

    March 7, 2018 at 11:03 AM

    AGREED! I said this to my husband last night. Lauren didn’t look at the ring, and neither did Arie’s mom or Lauren’s mom. There is zero chance that would have happened unless they’d all seen the ring before.

  8. sarahe

    March 7, 2018 at 11:39 AM

    I was also perplexed by Lauren’s comment last night that Arie “couldn’t have handled things better.” Really? Even if I was blindly in love with someone, and I’ve been there, I feel that I would still have the ability to see that the way he handled this was so far from okay. It’s almost like she’s afraid to defy him in any way. But this shouldn’t surprise anyone because Arie seems like the type of guy who would be vastly insecure being with someone like Becca, who has a great job, exudes confidence, and doesn’t NEED him. I think the reason why he went running to Lauren is because she is the type of girl who will definitely be deferential to her man and make him feel like the more dominant force in the relationship. With Becca, he would have had more of a partner and teammate and less of a damsel in distress.

    It’s sad that many men say they want someone strong willed, independent, and who has their stuff together, but don’t then ACTUALLY want those things. It’s not all men, but many.

  9. shenanigans

    March 7, 2018 at 12:05 PM

    My conclusions from watching the finale: Arie and Lauren are selfish, insensitive, and totally oblivious to how they are perceived. If either of them had a brain in their head, they would have known that last night was not the time or place for a public proposal. This will NOT end well for her.

  10. ladyjane747

    March 7, 2018 at 1:03 PM

    Still believe the filmed break-up occurred with everyone’s knowledge beforehand. It’s not a “conspiracy theory,” just an understanding of how scripted the show is, and it supports how easy it was for Becca to move on from broken engagement to Bachelorette. And yes, Caroline is annoying and probably auditioning for BIP. I think Becca will make a good lead, but I hope the quality of her guys is better than what was on display last night! Of course, we only know Lauren from what we saw on our TV screens, but we don’t “know” her. She’s obviously not great in front of a camera and doesn’t make for good TV and wouldn’t have been a good lead, but to attack her for being dumb, boring, submissive, etc. is a little overboard. We don’t know these people at all. They’re characters on a TV show. And I just have to comment about one person’s praise of Steve’s grammar. Really? At least I wish he could correct “lets” because he uses it a lot. It should have an apostrophe because let’s is a contraction for let us.

  11. shenanigans

    March 7, 2018 at 1:38 PM

    Lady Jane, on Kelly & Ryan today, Lauren admitted that she didn’t watch the Becca breakup scenes, which means that she is basing her opinion on Arie’s word. To me, that explains a lot. She isn’t viewing this situation through a critical lens – she is simply making a leap of faith and believing in her man. That only ends well if the man is worthy of the trust you have placed in him. Based on Arie’s track record, it is naive and short-sighted for Lauren to take this approach. This will not end well for her.

  12. LynnS

    March 7, 2018 at 2:22 PM

    Thank you for commenting on Steve’s grammar. It’s hard to understand how someone who writes for a living can’t (or doesn’t want to) learn basic grammar.

    And, yes, it is his ‘lets’ that gets to me the most. He writes this word multiple times in each column, and most of the time it should be ‘let’s’ because it is a contraction for let us as you said.

    I have noticed, though, that he is getting better with some things. But come on, Steve, this is so basic!

  13. LM111

    March 7, 2018 at 4:02 PM

    I thought it was weird that Lauren and Arie were so cheerful on the after, almost as if he had picked her to begin with. Completely insensitive and inappropriate. And – proposing on live TV after everything with Becca? So tacky. Obviously he did that to appease Lauren (despite their “everything is perfect” act, I’m sure she needed a public proposal to take him seriously, and he complied because he knew he had to prove himself). I also think that the same outcome would’ve happened if he proposed to Lauren in the finale, he’d have dumped her for Becca. The guy wants what’s unavailable to him. Not uncommon.

    The worst part was when he told Lauren he was 1000% over Becca. Really dude? That’s the kind of thing you say when a girl treats you poorly and you’ve had enough, NOT when a girl is super sweet to you like Becca was.

    I thought Becca handled things as best she could under the circumstances.

    On a side note – am I the only person that watched one episode of “winter games” and thought it was the stupidest, most boring show ever? Then add in the annoying Yuki and her school girl squeal of a voice. WTF?! Ben Higgins was on podcast talking about how much he loved Yuki? Seriously guy? That’s it. He should be destined to a life of listening to that voice forever!! Like nails on a chalkboard. HATE that chick.

  14. bachfan02

    March 7, 2018 at 5:51 PM

    I think he told Lauren he was “1000 percent” over Becca because he was trying to prove he won’t flip-flop again. The public proposal was to make Lauren feel secure. She probably felt as if she got “cheated” out of her televised-on-bended-knee proposal on the Bachelor finale. He said he had to do a lot reassuring with Lauren. Clearly he loves that. Maybe they will beat the odds. Stranger things have happened. LOL

  15. atleast4characters

    March 7, 2018 at 9:46 PM

    Here’s a theory, for which I have no evidence, and it probably isn’t true. However, I would not be shocked if it were true and I think neither would you. To keep it brief: Arie knew he wanted to pick Lauren, but producers convinced him otherwise with the intent of a twist at the end.

    One might object with, “yeah, but he wouldn’t have been certain Lauren would give him a 2nd chance.” To which I say, “so what?” And then you slap yourself, exclaiming, “you’re right, it’s Arie we’re talking about.” Either way, Chris Harrison still gets to blabber about it being the most dramatic ending.

    Another variant is that, leading up to the finale, Arie told producers he didn’t care who he picked, which led to the concocted ending we saw.

    Is it true? I’m in no position to know. Is it plausible? I’d say certainly more so than some of the nonsense we see on this show.

  16. katieharris

    March 7, 2018 at 10:34 PM

    I cannot with last nights episode. Change your mind, sure, but have some respect for Becca & show some freakin emotion. also… are all those guys on her season seriously private?

  17. tinyred500

    March 8, 2018 at 4:24 AM

    I think what we’ve seen from this franchise, is really any narrative could fit. I’m sure RS does get it right for most of the time…but I do also wonder whether some of the stuff and ideas that goes into ‘planning’ the storyline for each lead/season is kept somewhat more secretive. So yes, I think the narrative’s you’ve mentioned could all be plausible.

  18. jlal

    March 8, 2018 at 4:37 AM

    Of course Lauren knew about the engagement and ring, duh. I still can’t believe they thought getting engaged on air, right after he and Becca talking it out, was a good idea. It was so unnecessary, uncool, classless, and tone deaf to anyone else’s feelings. Get engaged if you want, but don’t rub Becca’s face in it, just weird.

    To those commenting on RS’s grammar I totally agree. It has been driving me crazy for years and I’ve commented on it a few times. He used to be really bad with pronouns, but has gotten a tad better. It has always been excruciating for me to watch the show, because even the college grads don’t seem to know which pronoun to use. I would then come to this site and RS was just as bad.

    As distasteful as this season was, I will watch Becca’s season. I have been watching since the very first one. Some seasons I do more reading a book than watching, but have at least tuned in every single season. It is mindless TV, which is my guilty pleasure for Monday nights. Dancing with the Stars next!

  19. bugsmeany

    March 8, 2018 at 7:30 AM

    There was no ‘conspiracy.’ Arie got the whole thing started by contacting Lauren on new year’s eve: before the premiere and three weeks before they had a sense of what the ratings would be. (The first two eps went up against college football.) They didn’t know the ratings needed saving.

  20. tamz171926

    March 8, 2018 at 9:08 AM

    Sarahe – I bet Lauren wouldn’t think Arie “couldn’t have handled things better” if the situation was reversed!

  21. beapancake

    March 8, 2018 at 5:06 PM

    Thank you! Like who cares what’s real or not – I watch unReal & Bachelor nation as pure entertainment not to believe in “true love” .

  22. beapancake

    March 8, 2018 at 5:10 PM

    Yes and she is not some innocent wallflower in all this. I’m sure she encouraged him to act like a jackass and call off the engagement.

  23. beapancake

    March 8, 2018 at 5:15 PM

    I kind of felt that too (regarding producers) as a sort of “revenge / throw under the bus” for the worst received / viewed (gag inducing) Seasons ever. Genius actually!!!!

  24. nycstar03

    March 9, 2018 at 10:25 AM

    Trying to leave a comment on the Courtney Robertson podcast post.. not working.. Steve, You should all Courtney out on lying about a lot of things.. She first said once he got back from filming, Arie told her everything, that he proposed to becca and had regrets and was sad.. blah blah.. but then later she said when he posted the bike riding pic, that she told him “I know who you picked” from seeing the pic. Soooo which is it.. did he tell her as soon as he got back orrr did she guess from the pic…?!

  25. qtontv

    March 31, 2018 at 4:56 PM

    Wow I think I am actually completely done with this franchise. I started drifting off during Ben H’s boring af season, and then quit with the latest round of f**** boys (Nick, Arie). Now I have no idea who this poor girl is and nor do I care to find out. At least I left on a high note with Rachel’s season, although Kaitlyn’s is the only season I’ve ever watched every episode of.

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