The Bachelorette 14 - Becca

The “Bachelorette” Becca – Finale Recap, Leo & Bekah Feud, BIP 5, & Episode 3 of the “He Said, She Said” Podcast

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There is frankly a ton of shit to devour in this Bekah/Leo feud that happened late last week. The amount of stuff that went back and forth was numerous so I’m not going to post every IG story shot or whatever, and that’s because the website already did. Before reading any further, if you didn’t follow what happened, click on that link first and get caught up on all the mudslinging that went on. It’ll make more sense when you read these next few paragraphs. The biggest thing I want to say about this story is that it is not as black and white as people are making it out to be. Let me explain…

First I want to start on Bekah’s side in all this. Plain and simple, I think she just fanned the flames when she didn’t need to. Does it mean she was wrong? Absolutely not. She has every right to take screen shots of conversations that women send her saying Leo sent them dick pics and post them to her IG story. Would I have done it? No. But she has a right to. Some of you agree with what she did, some don’t. I think looking back on my past, there are certain things I wish I could take back that I’ve run with on this site. I had every right to do them, but maybe I shouldn’t have or at least held back a little in what I posted. So I say this from experience in passing this on to Bekah: I personally don’t think she should’ve done this.

I know those who disagree will immediately come back with, “But Steve, you’ve inserted yourself into people’s problems and relationship issues before so how can you be so hypocritical.” You’re right. I have. And almost all of them, I’ve brought those people on, gotten quotes from them, or put them on the podcast to share their story. The internet is a crazy world right now. Anyone can say anything. In a case like this, when this many women are coming forward to say that Leo was basically a creep and sent unwanted dick pics to numerous different women, I think she needs to produce what these women are claiming or just leave it alone. Doesn’t mean I’m approving what Leo did, far from it. But if you’re going to repost a bunch of tweets and emails from random women saying he did it, you gotta produce the text messages and/or dick pics (obviously you can black box it out) to back it up. Hell, it wouldn’t surprise me in the least bit if this is all true about Leo. In fact, there seems to be overwhelming evidence that he DID skeev out a lot of women by doing this. But so many of them are now running to social media and saying it, yet there isn’t anyone producing the text messages and/or pics of it. They might have it and are too scared to share, which I understand. Or they might not have them anymore, which I understand as well. But that’s where I think Bekah went wrong in this. Until she had consent from these women of, “Yes, here’s the harassment I got from this guy, this is my name, here’s what he’s sent me and when,” and she published it on her IG story, then she should’ve just stayed away. That’s my take on Bekah’s side of things.

Now, one recurring theme where Bekah is taking an inordinate amount of heat for that I saw on social media was, “This didn’t happen to you. Stay out of it. It’s not your story,” is complete BS. No, it didn’t happen to her. That doesn’t mean she can’t talk about it if she wants. Women were contacting her. No different than a random person in Boston telling me Lincoln was in a courthouse and to look into it. Because it didn’t involve her she’s not allowed to talk about it? That makes no sense. She can get involved because she was given information that she felt was important. Anyone can get involved in anything if they’re given proper evidence/information. Just like anytime I’m given information about anything regarding this show. I determine whether or not it’s worth pursuing. Ashley got the same exact shit from the masses for the Lincoln and Garrett stuff being told to stay out of it and it’s not her concern, but both times Ashley produced evidence which backed up her reporting and proved her postings to be true. That’s where the difference lies and I think Bekah should’ve vetted it out more before plastering and retweeting all the posts about Leo. Not to mention, the initial dick pic comment he left on someone’s IG has been out there for months. It’s not like this was a new story. So she was a little late to the party and I easily think she could’ve held back.

There are so many things I’ve been approached with that I just laid off because there either wasn’t enough evidence or the person didn’t want to come forward. In this day and age, unless some people are willing to put their name behind their accusations, it’s tougher to just randomly come out with stuff. I can honestly tell you I’ve had a major story involving a contestant from this franchise for over a year now that I haven’t run with. And probably won’t. Would it be huge? Absolutely. I spoke to the other side in this incident for over an hour. I believe their story. But they don’t want to pursue anything legally, they’ve moved on with their life, and they just want it behind them. But yeah, just like these women are wanting people to know on social media “Hey, Leo is a major creep,” this person did the same thing. They just came to me privately with it and it was more serious than dick pics, that’s for sure. They thought they wanted to talk at one point but then they changed their mind. So be it. I get that ALL THE TIME. Every season. Some more serious than others. But I’ve basically said that unless they are willing now to speak on the record and attach their name to it, any claims/rumors that people who know contestants want to get out there, they have to be willing to stand behind it. It becomes a very slippery slope now to just accuse on social media, throw it out there, then never expand on it and provide evidence. Someone could do that every day about every contestant if they want to just for fun. It’s why I say I would never suggest someone go on this show. Sure the perks are great, but knowing all your private info could get out there, and stuff that may not even be true be said about you, I don’t think is worth it. But that’s just me. No one on this show thinks that way, they only look at the positives that could come with it, then get mad when there’s negatives.

HOWEVER, the bigger problem in all this comes with Leo. Don’t think for a second I’m on Leo’s side because that couldn’t be further from the truth. Bekah I just think should’ve not fanned the flames and I explained why I thought that. I’m looking at this objectively and giving my opinion on both sides. Look at my track record over the last year or so and the amount of women I’ve defended against shitty guys and given them a platform to share their experiences. It takes a lot of bravery to do that because you know the mob mentality of the media who like the person you’re accusing immediately discredit you. It’s why people choose not to attach their name to accusations or come forward with assaults/rapes. I get it. It’s their choice and I applaud those who do because it’s not easy and they know they’ll be attacked publicly if they do so. When this all started with Leo and Bekah last week I never tweeted or said anything about it because there just wasn’t much to say. It was a lot of hearsay going on and I was just over the whole thing. Not a whole hell of a lot to add. Women were saying Leo harassed them with unwanted dick pics, he said he didn’t, and Bekah said more women were coming forward. But that all changed the second Leo released his “statement” regarding the whole situation. In case you missed it, here it was:

First off, if that was some sort of apology, considering the words “I’m sorry” were never used once really kills its credibility. But there are some real gems in this statement. Lets go over them shall we?

“…no one has ever accused me of sexual harassment.” Ugh. Where do I begin? Yeah, it’s because they’re accusing you now on social media. Because they haven’t accused you in the past doesn’t mean it never happened. He isn’t this dumb, right? Oh he was just getting started…

“No one has ever come to me in any way and told me I made them feel uncomfortable.” Ummm, why should they? Do all victims call up their assaulter and ask them for a sit down over tea and crumpets? Some do, but it’s very rare. And at this point, those are just words. If the amount of unwanted dick pics he sent out are true, EVERY one of them was excited to get them? If they deleted it two seconds after they got it, then yeah, you made them feel uncomfortable.

“Did I do things in college that I would be embarrassed about now? Absolutely. Wait, so you’re admitting you did this? That’s such a generic statement and doesn’t address anything in particular. The whole statement is generic. Get specific. Did you send numerous dick pics out to women that were unwanted or not? This statement address none of that.

“Was it a part of my culture, the times, movies? Yes. This might’s been the cherry on top of the whipped cream. Totally understand, Leo. Movies told you to do it, so it makes it ok. The “Hey, everyone else was doing it so why can’t I” defense looks great on you. Keep that up. Totally believable. Again, WHAT was part of your culture, the times, movies, etc? Harassing women? Unwanted dick pics? I’ve been around longer than you on this earth. Can’t remember a time we went through where that was socially accepted.

“If there was anyone I made feel uncomfortable why not come to me?”
Again, just because they chose not to tell you directly, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. That seems to be his defense. No one told me I was doing anything wrong, so I must not have been. This guy’s thinking is so ass backwards, I’m pretty sure he can still walk in a straight line if his head was up his ass.

“I would love an opportunity to right my wrongs and speak to any woman that wants to tell me how and when I made them feel uncomfortable.” I’m sure they’re jumping at the opportunity to speak to you again. Believe it or not Leo, sometimes when you act like a total creep, women don’t want to ever speak to you again and would rather you just leave them alone. Has that ever crossed your mind?

I don’t know if he wrote that himself, or Elan wrote it for him, or a PR team, but that was terrible. Why the thing is in “quotes” from beginning to end makes me think someone sent it to him and he didn’t write it himself. But he posted it, so it’s on him. He addressed nothing specific in the letter which is what he should’ve done to make sure we all knew what he was talking about. It was completely tone deaf and his logic seems to be that of a second grader who got in trouble at school for going along and doing all the things his friends were doing. Not too bright, pal.

The other major issue here is the threats he sent back to Bekah as sort of his retaliation. Isn’t it funny how he privately sent those two IG DM’s he got about her allegedly sticking a cucumber in a dog and assaulting a 14 year old boy to her is basically the same thing he was accusing her of doing? Did you notice the time stamps on the two DM’s he got? So you’re telling me that the day after Bekah exposes what you did to her half million followers, the VERY next day, within 2 minutes of each other (9:23 and 9:25), you just happen to get two random emails accusing Bekah of two heinous acts? You don’t see how shady that could be to the viewing public? And you did end up posting one in your IG story, which means, you were threatening to sue Bekah over the exact same thing you were doing to her in return, but you’re just mad because she did it to you first? This guy makes zero sense.

The only point Leo made which had any semblance of possible credibility was telling her you just can’t believe everything that’s sent to you. And that’s true. I get it all the time. And at times I’ve fallen for it. That’s why there’s a vetting out process before I decide to run with stories I get. Most of them I don’t run with. Not worth the hassle and just not enough info. But just like you claim none of these stories about you are true, why are you so easy to believe two random strangers emailing you within 2 minutes of each other saying Bekah assaulted a dog with a cucumber and touched a 14 year old boy inappropriately? Maybe you did and she didn’t. Or maybe she did and you didn’t. Or maybe you both did. Or maybe you both didn’t. This is why the internet can be an awful place. And in the times we’re in right now, accusations like this are tough to take seriously when there’s no proof behind them. Doesn’t mean they didn’t happen and we’re trying to silence people from coming forward. Just means that people coming forward need to be held more accountable. With that said, for me personally, is it easier to believe that Leo sent dick pics to numerous women than Bekah cucumbered a dog and fondled a 14 year old boy, especially considering how Leo presented that info to her? Yes. But do I know it for a fact? No, I don’t. None of us do because no one provided anything of substance. And that’s why I think this story will die and go nowhere.

One last point about Leo. He’s trying to say that the original IG comment that started all this, which was him leaving a “you want this dick” on someone’s IG five years ago was photoshopped. That’s not what I’ve been told. Since this story broke, numerous women came to me and said when this was out there three months ago right when it first broke, people looked on that girls account from their own IG and saw that comment on her page. It wasn’t a screenshot, it was live. Very easy for Leo to say it was photoshopped. Ok, then prove it. How? And since we know the girl whose page you left the comment on, why doesn’t someone just flat out ask her did Leo leave the comment? And if he did, does she know him? Was it something playful? Was this an inside joke? Or was that girl legit bothered by the comment and that’s why she wrote what she did. Again, someone anyone needs to come forward with something more or this is gonna die on the vine. I suggest if Bekah does have pictures and names attached to what Leo’s being accused of, then she goes ahead and releases those. But this back and forth between the two of them is a lost cause when no one is giving anything substantial. “Yes, you did. No, I didn’t.” That’s all we’ve heard since Friday. Can someone provide anything to make this story more than he said, she said?

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  1. ctrealitygirl

    August 7, 2018 at 8:58 AM

    I’ve seen a few mentions of Chris Harrison being named the Bachelor…wouldn’t that be a hoot!

  2. corn29

    August 7, 2018 at 9:15 AM

    Becca saying to Blake, “you’ve made me know that I can fall in love again. But through all of that too, because we were so constant, I think I was overlooking other relationships”…

    … is quite possibly the dumbest thing ever said on this franchise.


    Through all your incessant whining and references to Arie every episode this season, that you wanted to find love, so you find that love, now you think that love is getting in the way of other guys?


    Becca is just another shallow Andi Dorfman-bot.

  3. ctrealitygirl

    August 7, 2018 at 10:06 AM

    I have to agree with you you corn29. Becca really floundered when she was giving Blake reasons for rejecting his proposal. And why on earth, knowing how sensitive he was, did she allow him to get that far? On their last two dates, he told her how much it bothered him knowing there was still someone else in the picture who she had feelings for. The reason most leads have given when they claim they have fallen in love with two people is that there is one person they simply cannot say good-bye to. To me that seems to be the best way to put it without hurting the person any more than they already have by rejecting them. I never bought that she truly loved Blake. She kept saying it in the voiceovers. But, as Sharleen Joynt stated in one of her recent recaps, her body language with Blake just didn’t show that she was in love with him. And Sharleen thought that the chemistry seemed off…and I have to agree with her. Knowing what the outcome was thanks to Steve’s spoilers, I really did not look forward to watching last night. I so dreaded the moment Becca stopped Blake from proposing. It was so sad. She and Blake deserve each other! A match made in heaven.

  4. rob22

    August 7, 2018 at 10:28 AM

    @corn29, I agree. Totally lame explanation. She did later say something about how they both “got in their head” about stuff…. which I translated to mean that they were both too much alike & she wanted someone to balance her out. Garrett doesn’t seem to worry about much, that’s for sure. And it’s not wrong to think that Blake and Becca together stressing out all the time might not be the best pairing. I also think the right answer is always “I had to pick one of you”, so….. but I don’t think that would go over that well. It’s probably more of a coin flip than we might think.

  5. ctrealitygirl

    August 7, 2018 at 10:43 AM

    I thought the same thing rob22. Becca ultimately chose Garrett because toward the end, Blake started over-thinking things while Garrett kept things light. Her facial expressions soured when Blake started voicing concerns and that’s probably when she started leaning the other way – that is, if she ever really Was falling in love with Blake. I have my doubts.

  6. tinyred500

    August 7, 2018 at 10:52 AM

    Becca for me was doing fine up until the final goodbye (they were short and sweet etc)…. agree she should have let Blake go sooner.

    Like with most leads the last few goodbyes are overplayed and far too much is said, it comes across as disproportionate and over emotional. Some things are simply said to confuse the viewer who they will eventually pick. She never told Blake she loved him to his face …only to the camera. Too many people forget that we are watching a reality show…the producers want suspense and drama, so I don’t take too much notice over what’s said to be honest. I know most peeps would keep things simple given the choice, especially under this weird programmes circumstances.

    I look forward to listening to Sean’s podcast….I’m anticipating an interesting one! 😀

  7. jlal

    August 7, 2018 at 11:38 AM

    I agree with some of the comments on here, but have some different points too.
    First, Blake knew he wasn’t going to be picked. He actually said it the night before and right after she dumped him. The sweating profusely was a big give away too. While the dumb a$$ comment that corn29 mentioned was pretty bad,what I thought was just brutal and totally unnecessary was what she said to him during the After. Paraphrasing here, but it went something like this “…when you started getting in your head it made me wonder how you would handle it if things were bad, like a child getting sick…” I actually said out loud to the TV “Wow, brutal and unnecessary”, she did not have to say that. Tons of people “get in their head” on this show, even Becca has admitted to it too. To imply he wouldn’t be a good spouse or parent was uncalled for.

    I thought them cutting right to Blake sitting on the couch after the breakup scene was awkward to say the least.

    I also never thought her body language showed she was that into Blake. I pay attention to body language, because people can say anything. 80% of communication is nonverbal.

    I do think she and Garrett may have a chance. They seem like they’re really in love and well suited. I hope so.

  8. jlal

    August 7, 2018 at 11:52 AM

    Oh, one more thing. I don’t buy for a minute that she wasn’t into Garrett until the end. She gave him the first impression rose. He was on her radar from the very beginning. I thought it was obvious how into him she was.

    However, they can’t say that or it would ruin the show. But I do actually remember one bachelorette that admitted on the After she pretty much knew from the beginning, though I can’t remember who it was now.

    Anyway, they have to play the game and not spill the beans. Just like she had to go along with the edit that made it look like she got up right after Colton’s confession. She can’t call the show out and tell the truth.

  9. ctrealitygirl

    August 7, 2018 at 11:59 AM

    Yes, jlal, that comment Becca made about worrying about Blake being able to handle situations after being married was indeed brutal. And It surprised me that she would say something so cruel to him. I’m thinking the leads go overboard on the AFTR shows in order to appease the person they’re engaged to. And like Steve opined, I would prefer they go back to the old format of showing the rejection and proposal before jumping to interviewing the “dumpee”….seems excessively mean after watching themselves be rejected on a live TV. Not to mention, it really takes away from the proposal. Remember last year with Rachel? They devoted all of a few final minutes to Brian’s proposal, focusing instead on the break-up with Peter, followed by putting Peter into the “hot seat.” We viewers wait a long time for the big proposal scene. But after watching the rejected person being grilled, it makes the proposal seem anti-climatic.
    And I have to say, Blake’s expressions after Becca rejected him were disturbing. For once Chris Harrison was right when he announced it would be the most brutal rejection to watch.

  10. ctrealitygirl

    August 7, 2018 at 12:02 PM

    jlal…I believe Ashley Hebert may have commented that she knew it was JP from the beginning…and perhaps Andi Dorfman too about Josh??

  11. tinyred500

    August 7, 2018 at 12:10 PM

    Becca knew better and so agree that many go into their heads and overthink things, They are shut-off from the outside world with little else to think about.

  12. tinyred500

    August 7, 2018 at 12:12 PM

    Agree she knew who she was picking from night one, and it’s was Ashley H who said she knew too.

  13. ctrealitygirl

    August 7, 2018 at 12:21 PM

    How could someone who makes the top three NOT be in their heads? They’re prodded into taking a HUGE leap of faith that they’ll be the last man/woman standing, while they have no way of knowing what the other relationships are like. I shared Blake’s sentiment the morning after the overnight date…as wonderful as he must have felt waking up with the woman he was falling in love with, there was also a BIG possibility he’d never sleep with her again, and he voiced that. that’s exactly how I’d probably feel! When you think about it, the concept of the show is pretty screwed up! It’s virtually impossible for someone not to get hurt in the process, and on TV no less, with millions of people watching you get dumped!

  14. GoingBlonde

    August 7, 2018 at 12:33 PM

    Steve will still never get me to listen to the awful Ashley Spivey on his He Said, She Said. Sharleen was wonderful, but ugh Ashley is just awful! Anyone who sees what she posts on Twitter would understand. She’s mean and hateful on there. She sure can dish out the mean comments, but she can’t take them. If you don’t agree with her on all her ridiculously overly liberal thoughts, she will start name calling. Interesting that once he put Ashley on, he suddenly made it free to listen to, probably because he knew no one would pay to hear her. Ha! You couldn’t even pay me to listen to her whiney self!

    I do, however, look so forward to hearing Sean on the podcast! I love Sean and Catherine! They are so adorable. And Sean’s tweets are funny. He’s just so nice and likable.

  15. tinyred500

    August 7, 2018 at 12:37 PM

    It ‘might’ have made Becca feel guilty and uncomfortable when she heard Blake say that…going on if she knew she was picking Garrett.

    It would be an immense challenge to feel completely sceptical by the end, I don’t think anyone could truly say how they would feel if in the final three..’all over the place emotionally and psychologically’, I would think…

  16. rob22

    August 7, 2018 at 1:14 PM

    About the “in your head” comments. True, they are in a bubble. And, in successive weeks, they’ve had Becca meet their families, slept together in the fantasy suite, met her parents and selected an engagement ring. Meanwhile the other contestants are doing the exact same thing and you know that they are. If you have an ounce of real feeling for Becca, that’s going to be a troublesome image. Yeah, hey, I just had a real cool time with my girlfriend. She met my parents, I met hers and we had awesome sex! Oh, and she did the same with two other guys. Aaaagh! But other than that, it’s totally normal so I can just relax and enjoy life. Or not.

    To that point, somehow Garrett managed to let it not get to him & didn’t seem to be too terribly thrown off by his getting hammered on social media about his social media likes. Give him credit for not letting all of that get to him. That’s the good part of a “chill” guy like Garrett. The bad part is that guys like this tend to be pretty immature & irresponsible, which is exactly what his social media activity tells us.

  17. stacylee

    August 7, 2018 at 2:19 PM

    Heard a podcast with Blake’s ex’s friend. She said reason for their break up (after 2 month relationship) had to do with religion…or lack of beliefs. If you read between the lines, I think this is what Becca was alluding to. She is way to classy to come out and say that. I’m sure we all noticed her cross tattoo. Good for her for considering the biggest picture of all! Love her even more.

  18. jlal

    August 7, 2018 at 3:04 PM

    It was Ashley, thanks. And, I too was surprised she was so cruel; it was unnecessary.

  19. mariet

    August 7, 2018 at 3:57 PM

    Ashley H. was all about Bentley at first. It was painful to watch. Ali F. was all about Roberto from the start.

  20. adelina

    August 7, 2018 at 4:16 PM

    Basically Becca said last night “my fiancé and I have worked through his racism.” Something so off about him. Between the two month long marriage, the racist, transphobic, anti immigration likes and his “I’m in recovery from a stroke” voice – he is not what he appears.

  21. pugmom

    August 7, 2018 at 6:33 PM

    I just created an account to comment here. I’m so glad this season is over and it has nothing to do with Becca and Garrett. I think the hate I’ve seen spewed is nauseating. I’ll never understand how you fight hate with more hate. I am Latina, I studied my butt off to get my bachelors in accounting, and my first job in my career I was caught in an unfortunate situation where my boss was racist. Genuinely racist, hated men, and all gay people. I essentially started job searching very quickly because that horrible lady was scrutinizing all of my work and delighted in yelling and humiliating me. When I first heard about the info Ashley Spivey found on the guy Becca picked, I was so sad. After seeing her live break up and hearing from RS that she had no idea it was coming, I was really rooting for her. Instead of just seeing what he’s “liked” on IG, I was waiting to see if any of the minorities on the show called him out for being a jerk because of their background (as far as I’ve seen I don’t think anyone did). I don’t like the stuff he liked on social media, but I really think people are blowing it out of proportion because it could be SO MUCH WORSE. I think if he was making really mean comments every time he saw a gay person, hispanic, or black person on TV or anywhere near Becca she would immediately get the hint and leave him for Blake, or Jason, her ex, or (my personal favorite, our meme and savior) Wills. That’s just my take on it. I wish everyone treated each other with respect so I really think that Ashley’s take on exposing his social media history and adding fuel to everyone whose bullying him is disgusting. She acts like she’s so much better than everyone else and I believe she will be getting the same hate right back because we reap what we sow. I really hope she opens her mind, you catch bees with honey not vinegar.

  22. stampinsundevil

    August 7, 2018 at 9:36 PM

    I believe Deanna Pappas and Jesse Csincsak had set a wedding date and even set up a website when they appeared on their ATFR. I recall jumping online immediately to subscribe to their site!

  23. jlal

    August 8, 2018 at 3:36 AM

    mariet – Until you mentioned Ali and Roberto I’d forgotten how obvious they were. I remember commenting to my friend at the time about her body language with him vs. the other guys. I still remember them riding in some street car/trolley type of thing and she into him. It was a far camera shot, so not like she was playing to the camera.

    There may be the occasional lead who really does struggle to decide between the final two, Jason M. and Arie come to mind, but the large majority know who they are picking in not from the start, darn close.

  24. jlal

    August 8, 2018 at 3:46 AM

    pugmom – sorry to hear about your work experience. I’ve had a few bad ones from the sexual harassment stand point. I agree with you that if Garrett was this horrible person, Becca would have figured it out. She is smart. I don’t see her settling for someone for whom she would have to compromise her values.
    Racism, bigotry, and homophobia are based in ignorance and fear. They said they have had many conversations. People can learn, grow and evolve which I’m sure Garrett has done or is in the process of doing. In a good relationship you help each other become a better person.

    One question – did he just “like” one or a few bad taste jokes or was this a pattern with him?

  25. tinyred500

    August 8, 2018 at 4:50 AM

    From interviews that Becca has given so far, it appears the social media thing and Garrett has been discussed and they’ve moved on. It’s really only Becca’s and Garrett’s issue and business, and not anyone else’s business, horrid they had to cope with the latter part.

    If you go back to the beginning of Becca’s season on RS’s blog (and read the blog comments over the days and a weeks thereafter) you will see there’s a lot of comments who agree with you. 🙂

  26. jlal

    August 8, 2018 at 5:41 AM

    Okay, so who watched BIP and what did you all think?

    Here is what I though:

    Tia’s a mess; Krystal hasn’t changed a bit; Colton is way in it to win the next bachelor gig and nothing else; David is still a little instigator; Jordan is hysterical; Kevin is a tool; and Nick is dumb as a rock and can’t string three sentences together without getting bleeped five times.

    Oh yeah, and I still love Grocery Store Joe.

  27. ctrealitygirl

    August 8, 2018 at 9:35 AM

    We have the same taste jlal! I agree about Tia…what’s the deal with her insecurity and mooning over Colton? I liked her on Arie’s season but liking her less and less since then. I wish Colton would disappear! He needs to get it thru his head that he’s NOT going to be the next Bachelor. Can’t stand David, LOVE Jordan. Nick is another nobody who thinks he’s hot. Krystal is still insufferable. What a hot mess this show is! What I think everyone loves about Grocery Store Joe is that he seems so normal…what a breath of fresh air compared to all the rest who think they’re celebrities!

  28. pugmom

    August 8, 2018 at 10:06 AM

    I completely agree! I’m glad they’ve talked it out. I agree with Rob22 that it seems like he hasn’t been really mindful of what he does on social media.
    I felt like I could express myself here because everyone seems to be so much more thoughtful and logical 🙂
    My refering to hate spewing has mostly been Twitter.

  29. pugmom

    August 8, 2018 at 10:19 AM

    I’m so sorry to hear about the sexual harassment 🙁 I hope you’ve found a job somewhere better or that whoever was disrespecting you has gone elsewhere! And I completely agree! Life experience and meeting people from many different bankgrounds or even meeting a significant other who can share their experiences can help someone grow. I definitely believe Becca has helped him, if he was really closed minded I don’t imagine they’d still be together, so unpopular opinion I hope they work out and Garrett doesn’t get bullied much longer.

    About the likes, as far as I’ve seen there’s probably 6-7 and knowing from Ashley it spans 6+ months my guess is he probably wasn’t constantly liking stuff that’s in bad taste.

  30. realitynyc12

    August 8, 2018 at 1:09 PM

    Lol I couldn’t agree with you more Adelina. I wanted to like Garrett, I really did. But the whole “sorry, I clicked on some awful stuff, I didn’t know it’ll offend people” just rings hollow to me. Its great that he talked it over with Becca and that she knows the kind of person he really is, yada yada yada but what that whole thing on ATFR failed to answer for those of us too “liberal” and “sensitive” is what exactly his views were at the time he clicked like on those pics. If he finds things like throwing children over a border wall and racist or homophobic jokes funny, then what does that mean? He got called out for it and suddenly he no longer finds those things funny? I mean, if he truly saw the error of his ways, great and as RS says, time will tell and his actions will speak louder than words. But for me, it would give me major pause if a person I was engaged to, at any point, found any of those offensive things funny. This was the crux of the argument on here but let’s all stop with semantics and call it what it is. If a person finds racist memes funny, then he’s a weee bit racist, know what I mean? Same for the other stuff. Unless he was drunk/ high/ completely incapacitated to make clear thinking decisions when he clicked those likes, I just don’t buy the argument of ” I just did it not realizing what I was doing but this is not who i am, my bad”.it was who he was at the time he did it and for Beccas sake, I truly hope it isn’t who he is anymore. Good luck to these two, I do like them together overall and hope they last…

  31. supersparklyday

    August 9, 2018 at 12:01 PM

    I have to disagree with the posters who thought Ali only had it for Roberto. I’ve always thought she was so devastated over Frank leaving, that she would’ve chosen him. Look at the guy she’s married to now, Kevin Manno, who looks exactly like Frank! She was dazzled by Roberto’s good looks (as were we all), but clearly attracted to the eyeglass wearing guys.

    I also think Becca had it bad for Garrett right from the start, and Blake never really had a chance. But knowing the spoiler may have just had me looking at it with Confirmational Bias.

    I would take either Jason or Blake as next Bachelor!

  32. davidrobinson

    September 26, 2018 at 2:58 AM

    I would take either Jason or Blake as next Bachelor too!

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