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“Reader Emails,” & Quick WTA Recap

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Hi Steve!

I’ve been reading your page for about 5 years now and I love how you always keep it 100%. I saw your tweet in regards that Hannah B, is going to be the next Bachlorette, and how you don’t expect it to change. But my question is, at this point does Hannah G even have a CHANCE of being the next Bachlorette??

Comment: No.
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Hey Steve,

Few questions for you this week!

1) Do you know if later episodes are edited/changed as the season progresses? I’m trying to figure out if elements of certain episodes, later on, are edited/changed based on response and feedback throughout the season. For example: Now that Hannah B. is the bachelorette (likely) they didn’t include her coming back and talking to Colton. However, that scene was clearly included somewhere at some point for that footage to get circulated so when was the decision made to pull those scenes? I’m curious how reactive editors/producers are or if it’s once the narrative is set for the season, they stick with it. Yes, they are. But there’s so many episodes and things added, it’d be impossible to go over every season and pick stuff out.

2) Mike Fleiss did an interview at the beginning of the season saying they wanted the next Bachelorette to have a strong narrative beyond something that just happened on the last season. Makes sense, they’re trying to pull people into watching that may not have watched last season. I can’t figure out what they think Hannah B’s story is though. Pagent loser redemption? I like Hannah B and she’s my first choice but I can’t see what her “story” is going to be. What do you think? Not necessarily pageant redemption. But maybe just not having found the guy. And finding that “fierce” love she talked about last night.

3) Who has been your least favorite Bachelor/Bachelorette of all time and where does Colton rank for you? Least? Juan Pablo probably. He just sucked as a lead. Colton is probably towards the bottom somewhere.

Thanks for spoiling, as always 🙂 You provide entertainment for me on many long and boring days otherwise.
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Hey Steve!

It’s been so long since I emailed, but I just had to thank you for introducing me to Temptation Island! I would never have known about the show if it hadn’t been for you. I am really enjoying it, much more than The Bachelor. The Bachelor will always be entertaining, and at this point it’s habit, but Temptation Island feels fresh and it’s a new concept to me. I’m really glad to hear they’ve been renewed and that there will be a reunion! It will be interesting to see what happens to the couples after that period of time. I know at the end of the season we will see the decisions they make, but it will give them some time back in the real world to really figure out if they made the right choices. I am enjoying your podcasts with Kaci so much, she just sounds like such a nice, genuine girl. I am really pulling for her, but it sounds like she is in a great place now, and is happy with the decision she made. I am very new to podcasts, in fact yours is the first and only one I have ever listened to. It’s great though! Maybe you could recommend some other good Reality TV ones? I know there are tons and some that you have mentioned before! I just don’t know where to start.

Comment: The only podcasts I listen to are sports/gambling related ones. I really don’t listen to any reality TV ones unfortunately. But there are plenty within Bachelor Nation I’m sure you’d like if you like mine. We all kinda talk to the same people somewhat.
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With Hannah B. Being the next Bachelorette,

(1) have you heard of an influx of past contestants sliding into Caelynn’s/Hannah G’s DMs trying to get them locked in for BIP? Not yet, but I’m sure it’s happening. Go read Chad Johnson’s twitter last night as he throws Caitlin from Canada under the bus for their relationship.

(2) have you heard if Caelynn/Hannah G. Already have their sights set on anyone for BIP? I’m sure they do but I haven’t heard.

(3) you mentioned that the guys in casting for the next season of “Bachelorette” were interested in Hannah G. Do you think they will be disappointed that it’s Hannah B.? Do you think any of them will actually drop out of casting because it’s Hannah B. (Kind of how Holly Allen quit when she found out Luke Pell wasn’t the Bachelor)?

Comment: I’d be surprised if they dropped. These guys want to be on the show just as much as the women do. They’re not casting 25 guys who are all 100% compatible with Hannah B., so it really doesn’t matter. These guys don’t care if they don’t win. They know they have a Paradise opportunity afterwards and have more options.
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Hi Steve,

I don’t have a question, but wanted to share a comment that I don’t think I’ve seen mentioned anywhere this season. Maybe most viewers haven’t been watching the show long enough to make this connection, but the Colton/Cassie situation seems very similar to what happened between Des and Brooks.

Des was clearly very into Brooks for most of the season, and then was blindsided when he decided to leave at the final three. I can’t remember if he left because he wasn’t feeling it or “wasn’t ready,” but like Colton, Des was devastated and told Brooks that she was in love with him and wanted it to be him at the end.

What’s interesting to me is that Colton and Des chose to move forward very differently. Des decided to keep going and accepted a proposal from Chris, and they’re now married with two kids. As we know from your spoilers, Colton breaks up with the other two women to pursue Cassie.

Like I said, no real question here – just interesting that a similar situation has happened on the show before, albeit with a very different ending.

Comment: Yes, it is. A lot of people are sharing this sentiment.
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Hi, Steve!

1. I’m worried that the casting directors will change their choice of Hannah B. as bachelorette because you spoiled it. As you’ve said, this is the one thing they can usually keep secret and they like to show that off. I’ll be truly sad if she doesn’t get it because I loved her on the show and I have a mutual friend with her in real life because my friend competed in Miss Alabama with her. She seems sweet and real even in front of cameras so I hope they don’t change their choice just to mess with what you’ve told people. They won’t. She’s the Bachelorette.

2. What’s your opinion on Kaci’s ultimatum to Evan? I know in the show she’s said that she now didn’t feel it was right for her to ask for marriage. I slightly disagree. I don’t think any good marriage starts on an ultimatum, but if you’ve been dating for 10ish years, I think it’s okay to ask why you aren’t at that point yet. If after 10 years, if they aren’t ready yet, I think you are allowed to have big doubts because they likely will never be ready. I think Kaci didn’t have to give up her opinion that she deserved marriage, it was an reasonable question to be asking. I guess I don’t know exactly how Kaci framed it. You know what, I’ll ask her that today.

3. I tried to take some of your readers’ advice and tried watching Love Island. I know everyone is recommending it to you, but I watched 2 episodes and had to quit because I felt like I was losing brain cells. Which I know sounds hypocritical from someone who watches the bachelor, but it was that bad. They started crying over missing chances with guys they’ve only known 2 days? Even the bachelor doesn’t try to push the “I love you” that fast. Well, it’s coming to the US this summer I believe. Maybe I’ll watch and see what it’s about.

4. Love you Steve! Your spoilers and podcasts are what I often look forward to in the week. I have a internet bookmark just for you!

Comment: Sweet. An internet bookmark. That’s some important sh**. I’ve got about 25 bookmarks on my phone. All basically sports sites, but hey, glad I could crack your list.
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Hi Steve ! So after watching tonight’s episode all I gotta day is WOW was that intense between Colton and Cassie! Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet but this reminds me of the Brooks and Desiree situation where she was so into him and he left and she was so distraught and crying and making it seem like he was the one . I know you say he’s with Cassie but wouldn’t it be crazy if after saying he loved her & wanted it to be her he changed his mind ? Not doubting your spoilers just an observation that reminded me of the one season you were wrong .. can’t wait to see the ending of this !!!

Comment: Yeah, I know there’s a small percentage out there that are thinking because I was wrong on the Des season, and this is playing out very similar, that I’m wrong on this one. Again, I don’t know any other way to put it other than to say, well, I’m not. He’s with Cassie and they’re not engaged.
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Hey Steve,

This day was one of the better bachelor days on record, imo . First we get Alabama Hannah, who has oodles of personality and should have a roller coaster of a fun (but slightly awkward/painful) season. I’m all in on Hannah. I think it’s going to be messy like Kaitlyn’s season.

Secondly we get that god damn to be continued episode. Let me tell you, I have been the Anti-Colton since he showed his annoying baby face on Beccas season. But damned if I didn’t almost shed a tear watching the guy get his heart eviscerated on national tv. This was the first time I’ve ever believed him on these shows. And now I sort of like him. At the very least, respect his actions and that he didn’t go with the backup blonde to have a pleasant season with a happy ending.

It was so f***ing emotional, and his response so genuine (seeming) and just wanting her to be happy. Shit. I’m cheering for those crazy kids. I don’t think they’ll make it, but I hope they do.

Also, the Matt f***ing Randolph was very disappointing. He was almost defending the premise of the show?? Saying when he met his wife he “knew”?!! I hate it when people say stuff like that. I think some of us never know. Some of us will meet the right person and still be confused, because relationships are hard and it’s not just about locking eyes and being “struck”. Ten points from Matt fucking Randolph. Shoulda stuck with his outstanding hometown showing and quit while he was ahead.

Toodles.

Comment: Do you realize you used both “oodles” and “toodles” in your email? That’s impressive.
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Steve!!

It was a burning question at the Bachelor watch party at the bar tonight during the initial recap. WHAT is in the gift bags that Colton lugs to each of the hometowns? He has like 5 in his hand when he’s walking up to Tayshia and Hannah’s houses. Any idea?

Comment: I thought he just brought flowers? He had more? I missed it.
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1. I don’t know if you heard about this, but last week Jade and Tanner revealed that she suffered a miscarriage after becoming pregnant the very time that she and Tanner had sex in the fantasy suite in paradise, which is very sad. This is a pretty big bombshell, since this show has been on for 17 years and this is the first time that a couple has publicly revealed that a pregnancy occurred in the fantasy suite. Yeah, I did hear about that. Crazy to think that happened. Horrible story.

2. Speaking of Jade, remember that she also revealed that she was raped as a teen, but she didn’t publicly reveal it until after she was on the show and was already married. I’m guessing that the producers didn’t know about that or else they would’ve encouraged her to bring it up. Anyway, my question is, do you know if the producers ask the contestants beforehand if they are victims of sexual assualt? Or maybe since Jade and Caelynn have come forward, now they will start asking? I think each person is different. My guess is they didn’t know about Jade. I doubt they’d ask though. Kind of invasive. And even if they did, you could see why people would lie.

3. I don’t remember a contestant on this show blow their chance to be the lead as badly as Caelynn did. The only other one that I can think of that comes close is Ashlee Frazier. I know your friend wrote that Hannah B’s tragic backstory will be that she didn’t win the crown, but that is nothing compared to being sexually assualted. I’m sorry she didn’t win, but 99.9 percent of women in America won’t win either and she did win Miss Alabama at least.

Comment: Yeah, she was Miss Alabama. But my friends post was more about getting the role because she’s more relatable to the female audience who watches this show moreso than not placing in Miss USA.
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Hey RS,

Only recently been a reader of your blog and thank you for all your hard work, I’ve really enjoyed the spoilers. I have a few questions for you from last night.

Sorry if I missed this, but did Hannah get an overnight date at all and it’s just not shown? What was the order of the O/‘N’s? Next week. Tayshia went first, and Cassie went second. If Cassie didn’t do what she did, we would’ve seen Hannah’s last night.

Do you think Colton knew Cassie’s Dad was in Portugal prior to Cassie telling him? Or was he genuinely blindsided?

Cheers!

Comment: No. I believe he didn’t know.
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Hi Steve,

I apologize if this is something you’ve covered before. Do you think the Bachelor/Bachelorette contestants are ever offered money to leave? I wondered this on Desiree’s season, with Brooks. It just seems like there have been several seasons where the contestants leave, when you’d think they would want their fifteen minutes of fame to last longer. It seems like something the producers would do to encourage people to leave at pivotal times to create drama.

Thoughts?

Comment: If they are, I haven’t heard of it. I think there could be other offers or scenarios presented to them, but “Hey, here’s an envelope of money if you bounce out of here?” I don’t think it goes down that way.

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  1. corn29

    March 6, 2019 at 8:33 AM

    If Juan Pablo and Corrine had a love child, it would be Demi.

    I’ve hated her all season long. Yes, “hate” is a strong word. Last night’s performance galvanized that for me.

    The notion that Demi has any fans makes me wonder what kind of people they are too.

  2. ctrealitygirl

    March 6, 2019 at 10:06 AM

    I wholly agree with you corn29! I had to mute my TV several times last night due to all the screaming over each other, mostly whenever Demi was speaking. She might be the most immature “girl” ever to go on the Bachelor. And I for one LOVED when Courtney gave her the pacifier! The whole WTA show was a huge waste of time. And Hannah B spent the whole time mugging for the camera, working on her Bachelorette audition. Gag.

  3. jlal

    March 6, 2019 at 10:29 AM

    I though what Courtney did to Demi with the pacifier was way, way out of line.That stunt said way more about Courtney than Demi. That being said, I’m not a fan of Demis and think she is immature and an attention addict.

    RS’s comments:
    “Demi is a wonderful human being, is totally self-aware, she’s going places in this world, and will never, ever be a punch line in this franchise or someone whose career will eventually revolve around numerous reality show appearances. Can’t wait to see her on Paradise this summer because she’ll bring such an exciting, fresh perspective to things at her age with her well thought out, never rehearsed one liners. She’s wise beyond her years and probably the most important character this show has ever seen.”

    Is he being sarcastic?

    Cassie doesn’t care about Colton, at least not that much. She said early on she wasn’t in love with him and didn’t know/think she could get there. She also said early on she was leaving. She waffled after Colton put up such a fuss. She is either a conflict avoider, or people pleaser or both. She is probably with him right now, because she does like him and the show and all. However, I don’t think she is “in-love” with him at all.

    As for Chris following Colton. You can hear one of the producers saying “Should we call Chris” when he first takes off walking, so there you go.

    Last night was excruciating to watch.

  4. tinyred500

    March 6, 2019 at 10:50 AM

    I’ve never been a fan of Demi’s, I just didn’t like her on the series, far too immature, rude and an attention seeker. I know there are others out there that like her one liners etc., but after last nights episode, I really can’t see why anyone could still feel the same about her.

    Yes, Steve was being sarcastic about Demi, and I miss that part of his humour sometimes…it seems to pop up when I least expect it. Maybe if he used emojis it would help, because at times the written word lacks nuances.

    I personally don’t think Cassie is that into Colton, I think she could have at least said, yes I adore you etc., I’m just not ready for a proposal yet. But she hasn’t really said anything like that…only that she’s unsure etc. I still think she signed up for the fame as did Colton, but all that said, I do think he was genuinely upset with Cassie after her Father turned up.

  5. logo65

    March 6, 2019 at 11:55 AM

    I rewatched the train wreck without wine, and cassie clearly said “I love you…. but… I’m not IN LOVE with you, if that makes sense” and then when heading to the car “You deserve to be with someone who is insanely in love with you”

    Those are pretty strong statements. Maybe she is just staying until ATFR, but wow, I dont see how you can overlook that.

  6. rob22

    March 6, 2019 at 12:26 PM

    A couple of issues I have. (1) Does anyone believe that Chris Harrison really followed Colton after the fence jump? The editing made it look like Chris was chasing him, but the choppy edits revealed that whatever film they shot with Chris was done after the fact. Colton may have jumped the fence, circled around and went to bed for all we know. But Chris wasn’t chasing him anywhere. Credit to Colton, because the fence jump was impressive athletically. The guy got up and over very easily. (2) I don’t really have any problem with Cassie’s Dad being cautious or suspicious. The issue I have with him is that he was giving a narrative where two people should meet, immediately fall in love, never have any doubt and that’s the way it should work. Instant soul mates, otherwise it’s not real. Come on. I realize that it happens that way for some people, but I’d wager a bunch that most people don’t have it happen that way. And I think that’s where Cassie was getting hung up. She was dating a guy (on a TV show), having a blast, enjoying the guy…. then boom…. Dad lays the “if you’re not feeling it right now, then it’s not real” trip on her. Maybe it’s not real, but it’s not because they weren’t instant soul mates. It’s not real because the whole premise of the show isn’t real. Dad kind of has his head up his a** if he’s expecting his daughter to have an instant soul mate. I don’t blame Cassie at all for being confused when her biggest roll model lays that on her. Colton was right when he said he was OK to go slow and that every relationship goes at it’s own speed. That’s probably the most intelligent thing he’s said all season. Maybe the ONLY intelligent thing he’s said. Anyway, that whole episode was highly annoying.

  7. tinyred500

    March 6, 2019 at 1:11 PM

    Only this episode highly annoying? The whole season has been annoying to me! Lol

    The best bit was the best line I’ve heard from any parent was by Tayshia’s Dad – ‘You don’t microwave relationships’, was just a fantastic line! It summed up what’s so totally unrealistic about the whole format of the franchise!

  8. trainwrecktv

    March 6, 2019 at 1:21 PM

    jlal – Steve was TOTALLY being sarcastic about Demi.
    I also think we have to give him slack about the Mrs. Harrison joke. I remember him calling Chris Harrison Mr. Zima first, and I think it is a totally fair joke to tease “inter-office dating” on a show spoiler site.
    As for the person wondering how many people aren’t watching the show but are still reading Steve’s stuff – that is totally me. I might have missed it if it came from something Steve posted, but the Matt F’ing Randolph references go over my head. I’ve been assuming it must be about something said on the show…but I wouldn’t know cause I’m not watching.

  9. rob22

    March 6, 2019 at 1:42 PM

    @tinyred: yes,from a macro level the whole season is very annoying. Like I’ve said before, this season is giving Juan Pah-blow a run for his money for being the worst season ever. I realize there were a lot of other turd seasons earlier on, but I was kind of in and out the first few seasons so I can’t really comment that well on Prince Lorenzo and Alex Michel. I do think Charlie O’Connell was really gross and definitely in the bottom 3, or so. Ben Flatdick is in there somewhere too.

  10. crushonspivey

    March 6, 2019 at 3:10 PM

    WTA was awful, and a perfect finisher to this season. Awful season, super immature contestants, and that one was a major issue. Girls, you don;t have to be rude, cruel and gang up on other girls to be strong. Don;t do it. Yet, there they went.

    And Hannah B? Just no. The girl is not bright, not very articulate, not quick on her feet thinking wise. That elevator does not go to the top floor intellectually. Or the top 3. Her season would be her making weird open mouth faces, doing that beast thing, and being mostly perplexed all season long about how it works. We didn;t watch the last Bachette season and won;t watch Hannah B either.

    Give us Hannah G. Classier and she’ll be a better season.

  11. jlal

    March 6, 2019 at 4:40 PM

    Logo65, happy you caught the I love you, but not in love with you line.. Also, the you deserve someone who loves you (paraphrasing). Because just those two lines says it all about how Cassie feels or rather doesn’t feel. Not saying she doesn’t like him,but she does not feel deeply about him.

  12. jlal

    March 6, 2019 at 4:46 PM

    I also am not a fan of Hannah B. Didn’t see much of her because I tuned in and out until the last couple of shows, but she is annoying.

  13. corn29

    March 6, 2019 at 6:20 PM

    Some random thoughts:

    > and cassie clearly said “I love you…. but… I’m not IN LOVE with you,
    > Those are pretty strong statements. Maybe she is just
    > staying until ATFR, but wow, I dont see how you can
    > overlook that.

    A couple of months into dating, my fiance pretty much said the same thing to me. 4 years later we’re getting married in September. We laughed at that together when watching.

    > Steve was TOTALLY being sarcastic about Demi.

    I missed that too; I guess I don’t have the sarcasm font installed on my laptop. Ha!

    > Like I’ve said before, this season is giving Juan Pah-blow
    > a run for his money for being the worst season ever.

    Nick’s SEASON was the worst.

    JP was the worst BACHELOR.

    > I also am not a fan of Hannah B.

    I was a HUGE fan of her dress last night though. Wow!!!

  14. justsaying

    March 6, 2019 at 6:43 PM

    So if Cassie is indeed with Colton, like Steve is claiming, so she’s basically flipping the bird at Matt F*** Randolph, then? Daddy, instant-love-connection-BS, just STFD LOL

  15. ladyjane747

    March 6, 2019 at 7:08 PM

    My ears were bleeding at that WTA. What a bunch of screechers! Demi is so annoying, I had to fast-forward through all her segments. She’s not even funny. I’m surprised none of the women did an “I told you so” at Colton – he picked the one girl the others had been warning him about. No sympathy for him, and Cassie is a nitwit. I like Hannah B as Bachelorette. Should be fun and lively – she’ll put it all out there.

  16. jlal

    March 7, 2019 at 4:16 AM

    I don’t think Cassie is “flipping the bird” at her Dad at all. He didn’t want her to get engaged after a few weeks if she wasn’t sure. Dating someone is totally different.

    Agree that the WTA was hard on the ears. I too had to turn the volume down and tune out during the screeching sessions.

    So happy RS was being sarcastic. I usually have pretty good sarcasm meter, but missed that one.

    I too took longer than my husband to “fall in love” and it wasn’t until we broke up for three months at the 2 year period, that I realized just how much he meant to me. Best thing that could have happened.Together a total of 18 years now. So, maybe Cassie will come around but I doubt it seriously.

  17. ladyjane747

    March 7, 2019 at 6:56 AM

    Okay, I just have to ask how anyone could’ve taken RS seriously when he wrote that paragraph about Demi. He’s been writing all season about how annoying and immature she is and how she’s doing a Corinne 2.0 and how even at the WTA she was just doing her act, and I guess apparently he had some Twitter exchange with her. I mean, c’mon!

  18. tinyred500

    March 7, 2019 at 7:42 AM

    Unless someone has read all of Steve’s comments for a season it’s not always easy to see his sarcasm or humour etc, though Demi’s was pretty easy to spot IMO. That said, a few posts back Steve replied to a readers email who thought Cassie’s family lived in a super nice house and were they wealthy etc. Steve gave a response which I wasn’t sure about, I asked in the comments, and a fellow commenter said Steve was being facetious. When I watched the hometown episode, I could clearly see Steve was! 😀

  19. justsaying

    March 7, 2019 at 9:42 AM

    Daddy-Love-killer said if Cassie should know right away and there should be no hesitations when you meet the right person and the longer Cassie drags it on, she’s doing a disservice to herself and Colton. If that does not say break up with him now, I don’t know what is.

  20. justsaying

    March 7, 2019 at 9:50 AM

    Thank you for sharing your love story Corn.

    I don’t know about everybody else, when I’m not into a guy I’m with, I don’t shed a tear when I break up with him.

  21. jp22

    March 7, 2019 at 10:03 AM

    So funny that you indict Demi fans just because of another viewpoint or perspective on the show. What kind of person are you, one may ask. LOL

  22. rob22

    March 9, 2019 at 7:18 AM

    @justsaying: you are exactly right! Dad was giving a pretty unsubtle message to Cassie that she should break up. First, he threw in the confusing statements about how he and his wife (Cassie’s Mom) always “knew” from Day 1. Then points out that Cassie doesn’t “know”. Casts doubt about how she could not “know”. Then tells her that she should “follow her heart”…. after clearly attempting to show her that her “heart” wasn’t in love…. after 6 weeks…. on a TV program. That’s kind of manipulative, don’t you think? I do hope Cassie stands up to her Dad, regardless of where things go with Colton. She has to develop her own mind where she doesn’t get talked out of a non-abusive relationship by her Dad. Look, these “engagements” on the Bachelor are phony. The vast majority break up within 6 months, many within a few weeks after the final airs. Chill out Dad. It’ll all play out fine one way or another. They’ll likely break up. But if they get married they will have beat long odds and the love will be real. I was originally thinking that the decision by producers to get Cassie’s Dad on the program was a story line killer and a show killer. A big mistake. But the show is getting lots of attention on social media, so ratings will probably be really good next week. I guess they do know what they’re doing, as annoying as that is to say.

  23. justsaying

    March 9, 2019 at 11:32 AM

    @rob22 Thank you! I’m not saying Colton and Cassie forevah and evah but give them a friggin chance, daddy-double-m (m for manipulate and m for meddler). Before meeting up with Colton that night, poor Cassie said along the lines I know what I have to do now. I have leave.

    There’s already so little love in this world, daddy-double-m. Let Colton and Cassie have at it. Nothing wrong with that.

  24. corn29

    March 9, 2019 at 6:00 PM

    What kind of person am I @jp22? One with respect and integrity. Something comepletely lost Demi… and apparently you. Troll on pal.

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