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Podcast #277 – Interview with Steven McBee/Calah Jackson & Amanda Pace from “Joe Millionaire

Even though we’re a day late with the podcast this week, there’s a reason for that. With the timing of the “Joe Millionaire” finale, it made sense to put these interviews up the next day. We’ve got Steven and Calah’s first public interview as a couple and then we’re joined by Amanda, who was chosen by Kurt in the end, but they have since ended their relationship. We dive into everything in both interviews and if you watched the season, you’ll definitely enjoy both of these I believe. And then next week, with the podcast coming on Tuesday, we’ll hear from the two women who WEREN’T chosen last night, Annie and Carolyn. So look for that on Tuesday. As always, if you’d like to respond to these interviews, please include the Twitter handles of everyone involved – Steven (@steven_mcbee), Calah (@calah_jackson), and Amanda (@amandapaceee). So glad I was able to get all of them on and get these to you as soon as I could. I really think you’re gonna like these.

You can listen to today’s podcast on a number of platforms, but you can also tune in by clicking the player below:

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Music written by Jimmer Podrasky
(B’Jingo Songs/Machia Music/Bug Music BMI)

(SPOILERS) I begin by talking about how and when these “Joe Millionaire” interviews were conducted.  Then Steven & Calah join me as a couple for their first interview (9:02) to talk about what life has been like since the show ended, how serious is the relationship, knowing the edit made it seem like he’d pick Annie and how they’re gonna deal with that, and much, much more.  Then Amanda joins me (46:05) to talk about her journey on the show and (SPOILER) her post-show break with Kurt, when it happened, why, is there any chance for reconciliation, and so much more.

Twitter – @steven_mcbee
Instagram – @stevenmcbee
Twitter – @calah_jackson
Instagram – @calah_mack
Twitter – @amandapaceee
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  1. CarolH

    March 12, 2022 at 6:53 AM

    Loved this podcast from start to finish. Really loved Joe Millionaire and so glad Steve could get them on and look forward to next week’s podcast and then on to Temptation Island. Bravo to you Steve for these interviews!!

  2. wisewords

    March 12, 2022 at 11:34 AM

    Steve forgot to ask Amanda what she was thinking when Kurt told her he was not the millionaire. She paused so long and looked so incredulous that I thought she was going to tell Kurt no. If I remember correctly they even had to give her a break to think it over. That’s a huge deal! Surprised Steve missed this. Otherwise, a great podcast!

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