Podcast #388 – Interview with Greer Blitzer Transcript
All right, let’s bring her in. You saw her on Zach season of the bachelor then last summer, season nine, briefly bachelor paradise. And she has the distinction of being the only person in the history of this show to accomplish this amazing feat. Receiving the first impression rose and getting COVID in the same season.
How about that? It is Greer Blitzer. Greer, thanks for coming on.
Thanks for having me, Steve.
Did you know that you were the first person to ever get that double whammy?
I, I, I knew for a fact that, yeah, I definitely broke a bachelor record. That
was a. And we’ll definitely get to that because I thought that was fascinating.
Really? I mean, yeah, we had, you know, Claire’s season and then Katie’s and, and Michelle’s was still in the early stages of COVID, but as far as we know. Nobody really got it. And then you did this season. So we’ll, we’ll discuss that, but wanted to talk about this to start off as I do with everybody, just how you got cast were you a fan of the show?
Were you sitting at home and applying one night? Did somebody apply for you? How did it go for you with casting for this season? And again, did you watch Shit. Rachel season. I was thinking of which season Zach was on. Did you watch Rachel season or like, Oh, I want to, I want to apply once I found out that this guy was, or were you already in process without knowing who the bachelor was?
Yeah. So, before I even applied, I watched one season of the bachelor. It was whenever I was in college. It was Colton season. He jumped the fence. And I thought it was incredible and then I watched that season and then I dabbled for a little bit of Matt’s season, but not, I didn’t watch it that much.
Thoroughly it wasn’t this bachelor fan, but I was like fascinated by the franchise And my senior superlative actually in college was most likely to be on the bachelor and I I don’t know exactly what they meant by that, but I guess they manifested it for me And I don’t know it was a random It was a random day in may and I was bored and I was on tiktok and I saw this girl You applied and I thought to myself, you know what?
I’m going to apply. Let’s see what happens. And most people have someone nominate them, but I fully confess that I nominated myself and I applied. And then a week went by and then I got this email and I was for sure it was spam. And then I ended up interviewing for Zach’s season six months before it happened.
So it was really long, long process. And then I only watched Rachel season and Rachel and Gabby season to see what the guys, who the guys were and who could possibly be, I guess, in my mind, my future fiance. Yeah. I
was going to say, cause you don’t, I mean, most of the time, sometimes they’ve announced early, but most of the time when you’re going through that process, including final casting weekend.
You don’t know who it is. You they’ll ask you, I know they ask, like, Hey, were you interested in from this season and you’ll give your, give your answers, but do you remember when you knew it was Zach and how soon close to filming, you knew?
I learned the day everyone else learned, which was, I was, which
was when on Zach season, it was
at, I was the finale, the, the tell all finale, whenever they broadcasted who the next bachelor was going to be when Zach showed up and then like the girls came on Christina Mandrell, Brooklyn, et cetera.
That
moment. Yeah. That moment was when I found out,
were you already out there where you already sequestered in the hotel? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
No, no. I was at home.
Okay. So you guys hadn’t. So they did that a little early. Those girls just, I guess, had to stay a little bit longer in LA before filming started.
You hadn’t flown out yet.
No, no. It was before. Yeah. I was sitting at my kitchen counter and my parents were holding my hand.
Okay. So here’s a question I’ve literally been wanting to ask you since you were announced as a contestant on the show. Because when the bachelor Facebook group. I’m a bachelor Facebook page announced.
So here’s your potential women for Zach season. You know, then I start doing my studying or when people start sending me information about these women. And one of the things that I got about you, which I don’t think you’ve addressed in any interview, I don’t think, I know it for a fact, it wasn’t brought up as a storyline on the show.
Was the, do you know what I’m going to say?
Is it about Gabby? Yes. So,
so I had reported because numerous people came to me and said, these two were both PI beta fives at Ole Miss. And I’m like, Oh, well that’s definitely gonna be a story. Every time they have sorority sisters or people that know each other, they’ll acknowledge it.
And it was never acknowledged on Zach season. So my question is maybe you guys were sorority sisters, but weren’t close. I think one, one of you was one year ahead of the other. Somebody told me she was your big sister, which I don’t think was true. Explain to me all of that. What happened at Ole miss? How close were you to Gabby?
At what point was it when you showed up on the first night that you realized, Oh shit, my sorority sister’s here. Like.
That’s legitimately how it happened. It was like, Oh shit, we did a double take and we’re like, wait, I know you. What? We were in line waiting to hop in the limo. We rode in the same limo together.
Oh, okay. So you, so when you walk downstairs at the hotel and got in a limo, that’s the first time anyone sees each other. That’s when you realized, oh wow. So how close were you in college? You just knew her as one of your same sorority?
Yeah, I mean we’re in the same sorority, but our whole sorority had about 500 girls in our, in our chapter.
It was huge. And the reason why I knew Gabby, because she was best friends with my big. So,
okay. That’s what, that’s what I, you know, I was told that she was best friends with your big, that’s what I was told.
Yeah. Yeah. So I got to know Gabby a little bit, my freshman year, whenever I got initiated and then went to got my big little reveal thing and we all went out together, but we really didn’t spend time together or get to know each other.
It was just very much, we were, we were acquaintances and, but then it was obviously amazing out of everyone in the world. Who gets to be my limbo, someone that was in my sorority. It just, it was a crazy moment for both of us. And I think that it was never a storyline, because I actually, I don’t even know if Gabby knows this.
I haven’t talked to her about it. I wonder if she felt the same way. But I stayed away from her. Because I thought that that was a plant. Like, I thought that they did that. For us to have some kind of rivalry. So I purposely barely spoke to her.
Did it ever come up in the house? Eventually at some point.
Okay. And so it did. Oh
yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it came up, it was definitely conversation, but like, I think in the beginning they tried to, Get her to, to do stuff too. And I just thought to myself, you know, I’m just, this is not why I’m here. And I think she’s amazing. I’ve nothing against Gabby whatsoever, but like, there’s about at the time, about 20 other women in the house, I’m going to go talk to them instead.
Yeah. Okay. Jumping on the whole Ole Miss thing, the hottie toddy, just out of curiosity. Do you know where hottie toddy comes from? Do you know what it is? It’s the
drink, right? Drink, right?
Well, see, that’s the thing I, you know, obviously I’m a big college football fan, so I’m very well aware of hottie toddy.
And anytime we talk about Ole miss and whatnot, and but I Googled it because I didn’t know what it was and now I Googled it and this is what came up. This is really weird. I had no idea. I never heard of this, although this article was written in 2021. So I don’t know. It’s like, but where. Where did the phrase come from?
And so
this
is what I found. It said Edwin Smith wrote on the official Ole Miss website in 2014, the Mississippian printed a cheer that went Heidi, tidy, gosha, mighty. Who in the hell are we? Rim, Ram, flim, flam, Ole Miss by damn. And it’s a reference to a cheer that was later popularized in the military during world war II.
And then it says in the article. Somewhere along the way, Heidi became hottie and tidy became toddy. No one seems to know exactly when or what, and that’s where the phrase came from. Now that might’ve been turned into. Well, let’s just call this drink hottie toddy, but that’s what I found. So I just want to let you know and fill you in on Ole Miss history.
So
for the history fact. I’m a history nut. So I love that. Thank
you. So is Heidi tidy? Gosh almighty. Who the hell are we? Rim ram flim flam Ole Miss by damn. Is that something you heard of
chant? That’s what? Yes. We need a hottie toddy. Gosh almighty. Who the hell are we? Hey, flim flam. Bim bam. Ole Miss. God damn.
All right. All right. Like we would yell that and call it a football game. Okay. So they’re basically
saying that Heidi tidy just turned into hottie tottie. That’s why.
Okay. That’s what they probably thought that it sounded like tidy whitey and yeah,
there we go. Okay. So now you’re, now you’re in the house and as I mentioned in the, in the beginning, You get the first impression rose and I’m assuming obviously you get the first impression rose.
You’re feeling confident about anything, everything that’s going on. You’re just like, wow. But also it could work as a double edged sword of now women are not going to like me or women are going to think I’m a front runner. How did you, what was the sense you got from the other women when you got the first impression rose?
Well, the moment that it happened, I just, I just know that we’re in this environment of competition. Yeah. And I knew that I was going to be spending a lot of time with these women and I didn’t want to step on toes. I didn’t want to walk on eggshells either, but I also wanted to enjoy the moment and But I I knew that moment.
I was like I can be happy, but I’m not gonna boast about it I don’t want anyone in the room to feel like I think that they’re inferior to me Because there’s so many women in the room that didn’t get a chance to see I just had a lucky conversation of where we just felt really comfortable and it worked out.
So in that moment, I was like, let me, let me enjoy it, but I don’t need this. I don’t need to rub it in anyone’s face in the room is how I, how I try to handle it. So
you didn’t feel you were getting side eyed by anybody or anybody was talking shit about you, either to your face or behind your back?
Oh, I’m sure look, Steve, I’m sure they were, but I, I’m sure I was not aware I’m, I’m definitely sometimes in my own world and if I don’t see it, it’s an out of sight, out of mind thing for me.
I’m not worried. So that’s
good. So if they were, you had no idea. So there wasn’t any contention between anybody. So usually, especially even though Zach season was only two seasons ago, I have to like refresh my memory about. Things that happen. I remember like the big things, but going back and going over dates, I’m like, Oh yeah, that’s right.
That was that date. And this was this date. So you were on the first or the second group date of the season. And when they started the dates, you were on the second group date. So I go to Wikipedia and it’s, it’s, I think, I think chat GPT wrote your episode descriptions on, on Wikipedia because it says.
Victoria, Jay, Gabby, Katie, Ariel, Anastasia, Kimberly, Allie, Charity, Jess, and Greer are chosen for the second group date and decided to take the after party instead. What am I missing here? You didn’t have a group date? What happened? Your first group date of the season? I
don’t even know if I’m allowed, I don’t know if I’m allowed to answer this, but I, I, I, I have no, I have no idea.
Weren’t you on the, wasn’t there a date?
There was a date, yeah, I just, I Oh wait, was this the
episode where all of a sudden they showed the after party and they didn’t show what happened during the
That’s that’s what that’s what that was and you know what I’m so fucking happy. They cut that date. Oh My god, it was it was very interesting
Okay, just The puppet date because that was that was that there was a public Yeah, they had asked the public like that was what was so weird to me because this was a date that the public attended so It’s not like I didn’t have details of what happened at this date.
And I put it out there and I said, this is going to happen in episode two. And then it just goes away. And that was the one where putty was in it. You know, Zach’s uncle was part of the date. And I’m like, why did they just get rid of something where they literally had a public audience? That doesn’t make any sense.
I’m sure whoever was editing the show. Said it was so painful it just didn’t make it to air.
Was it painful in that it wasn’t, it didn’t turn out to be as funny as they thought? Or was it painful in that It was, it
was not funny. It was painful. It
was . Okay. It was just, it was stupid .
It was just, so I, let me tell you, I was up at, I was up at night for a few reasons, and that was one of them.
I remember someone called me and I, and I said to them, I was like, is I don’t, is the date, did the date make it? And they said no. I said, thank. God, I was,
I was like, I don’t need the screen time. I don’t, that doesn’t need, that doesn’t need to exist.
Oh my gosh. I wanted to, I wish I still had the email of somebody cause I could have, well, it’s probably on my site somewhere.
Yeah, of what people did with their pup. I know one of them got really sexual, if not a couple of them did something sexual with their puppets. It might’ve been Victoria J. I think that that brings a bell to me, but anyway,
I actually, I listened to your, I listened to your podcast cause I always like to listen to your stuff to see if you got things right or not.
It was my, one of my favorite things to do and you’re usually really spot on. I remember this I specifically remember you talking about it and. You mentioned that someone in the crowd said mine was god awful and I busted out laughing because it was it was so Bad, it was so bad Cuz I yeah cuz like in cuz what happened was I ended up talking to Zach and did no preparation Oh, and had to like quickly, I had my, it was actually hilarious.
I had the paper, I was sitting on it with my knee with the puppets and reading it like,
okay.
Yeah.
All right. Yeah. And I remember, yeah, I remember I reported it. I could probably still pull it up on my side of what. You know, and I’m just, I’m literally relaying what somebody who was there. Obviously I never saw it myself.
So I’m just taking someone’s word for it. That was their opinion. Maybe other people there thought yours was the funniest. Who knows? But
Oh, you, if it being terrible is hilarious. Oh yeah. It was so funny. It was the most funniest set you’ve ever seen.
Okay. All right. So then you obviously you make it through week two and then week three is the football date that you were part of.
Was the football date, did you get injured at any point? Was it rougher than you thought? Did you get roughed up at all? What happened to you on that date?
Oh my God. Yeah. So I was like, I can’t run. I can’t throw how, what can I do? So I decided to donate my body to the field and I was, I was a rag doll.
Anyone that was in front of me, I lunged my, I was feet up in the air, feet up in the air. Steve lunge at whoever was in front of me.
Like you were just getting trucked by everybody and just land.
No, I was trucking. Oh, you were the one doing the
trucking.
Heck yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I was. People had bruises.
They were like, don’t get near Greer. And I remember Kat, Kat, she was like, get off me! And I was like, no! But then I actually, I pulled my back out and then I was, I sat out for a little bit. Yeah, but that was my football experience.
Okay. Gosh, like, you know, when they show that when they, you know, obviously that that football taping last a couple hours and we get, you know, less than five minutes of the game.
So it’s very hard to see who does anything unless they literally focus on. Oh, Hey, look at what this person did and this person. And so, yeah, I don’t remember for
sure
that, and if they showed you trucking people or not, I don’t know if they did or not, but I wish
I got, I got Christina one time. I was so ready for that to air and it
didn’t, but it’s
okay.
It lives in my, in my head and I know what happened.
So then we head to the Bahamas. And you were on the the, the fish fry gate that had the limbo games. And that was also the date where Anastasia and Kylie had their beef about social media or whatever. I don’t know if you want to chime in on anything that you heard, like when that came back to you and you heard that Anastasia and Kylie were going back and forth on this, was there someone in the right, was there a middle ground there, what was going on with that?
I thought it was ridiculous, honestly. Because I just thought it was every, like, tensions are high, obviously every second counts, and we want to spend time, right? Yeah. And so I understood. I understood the day portion of the altercation with being upset of having time taken away and not having a chance to speak to Zach.
I didn’t even get to speak to Zach that, that day. So I understand, I get it. We’re all eyeing him down, waiting for our moment to strike. And I understand how that happened. And I understand there’s always going to be miscommunications, especially with alcohol. And we’re like, the sun is beating on us and we’re sleep deprived.
So I get stuff like that happens. What I didn’t understand was the night portion and how, like, I wish, I wish the girls like used that time for themselves and their connection with Zach instead of it turning into something it didn’t need to. Because I know, I know for a fact that all, so many girls were asking Anastasia constantly about social media and about followers and everything.
And Anastasia was already a content creator. So she was just answering questions. And so having that thrown in her face, I was like, Really? I was like, but that’s, I get it’s not going well between you and like you two had that conversation together. I didn’t understand like why Zach had to be brought into it.
Cause that also took away from a lot of girls time and it ruined his night. And it ruined our night.
So was that one of those times where he just, I can’t remember the episode. Did he just cut the night portion short because this Anastasia Kylie thing was just going back and forth and he was getting nowhere because I think you just said you’d never got any time with him that night.
I mean, I got time with him that I was the last person to speak with him. So I, that night I hadn’t spoken to him in over a week and I was like, I was, you know, he was going through that and then I was stressed and then, I remember by the time I spoke to him I, I, I was, I felt like so much pressure and I remember we like sat down and we spoke a little bit and I, I remember checking in and saying like, Hey, like, you know, are you okay?
How is everything? And then the conversation just. We, we, I think we both realized that that time apart was already like, we were kind of losing that connection pretty much.
Well, that was going to be actually my next question was here we are now four episodes and you make it through the Bahamas. You get a rose at the Bahamas and you’re four episodes in and you’ve had three group dates.
Yeah, yet you were the first impression rose recipient. So where, I was just going to ask before you said that, where was your connection? Like after the Bahamas and you’re heading to London, In your head, where was your relationship at with Zach? Do, were you thinking like, Oh, I gotta be getting a one on one soon.
He gave me the first impression or you were, were you like, Oh shit, maybe he’s regretting giving me the first impression rose.
Yeah, it was, it was weird. Cause I, in Bahamas, like the cocktail night he told me that our connection had declined and I remember asking, you know, why? And there was no reason it was just, we hadn’t talked in a week and a half a lot of.
Other connections grew.
Yeah.
And so I, that threw me for a loop. I was like, Oh shit. That’s not fun to hear. And so by the time I get to London, I’m already stressed. I’m already anxious and I feel uncomfortable because I’m like, does this guy even like me? What am I? I love, you know, getting to know all the girls here, but like, I’m here to, Be something have something real with someone like I don’t need to be here like I’m choosing to be here And I was already pretty stressed about that.
And then when you’re constantly asked over and over and over all day Every day, how does it feel to not have a one on one? How does it feel to not have you know? Someone, you know, did you get any reassurance? How does it feel to watch every connection grow? And when that’s constantly the conversation you have, not only like in your head, the conversation you’re having all day out loud, it takes a toll.
Oh, for sure. It’s It’s a tactic used on every candescent every season who is in the situation that you’re in. So London happens and Zach has a one on one with Gabby. And then after that you guys are all set for a group date and When finding out who’s on the group date, it means that charity is gonna get the one on one But then you find out by the way, Zach’s not feeling well We’re gonna skip to the night portion and then the night portion rolls around
Yeah, by
the way, Zach’s still not you know, still not okay.
There’s not going to be a date. And then I think is, is that the point? And then obviously Jesse informed you guys that Zach has, before charity’s date, Zach has tested positive for COVID he’s in isolation. And you guys are going to basically talk to him on zoom. And at that point. Here we are now five episodes.
You don’t even get this date with him at all. You don’t even get to see him in London. You, you did get zoom with him, right? Yeah. You did get to zoom with him.
I got the, yeah, I got the weird zoom with him. Yeah.
Which was what? The weird zoom.
The zoom, it was like the weird conversation about sales, my, my job.
I totally blanked on that. Yeah. Refresh my memory on, on what the thing everyone ran with was like, what was. The quote or the line from that conversation. What was it again?
Oh my God. What did I say? It was I was so confused. I’m trying to remember the exact thing I said to him. You know, I know, I know what it feels like to like not have control in my last time I had COVID I almost like lost my job because I wasn’t reaching my my quotas.
I understand being in this situation where COVID takes over something about being frustrating and you have a goal that you’re trying to reach where like you’re here to find your wife and COVID’s gotten in the way and it’s out And I think he said something like What was it? He goes, well, I think that me finding a wife is more important than your little sales job.
Okay. That’s what it was. It was almost like, yeah, career compared. Greer compared my situation to her sales job or something like that.
Yeah, I guess I could have, I, I, I know I look back at it. I’m like, okay, maybe I could have worded differently, but I really, I honestly, I honestly meant like, just not having control.
That’s really where I was coming from. And and it’s like, dude, like I also like. I even lost when I, after I came back from the show, like I even lost my job. Like we all like put our job on the line for this too. We’re just not dating 20 other people.
Yeah.
You know?
God, that was great. That’s right. You totally, thank you for refreshing my memory about that.
That’s right. That was you. You were the sales girl in that conversation. So.
Yeah. So
next everyone goes to Estonia and we find out right at the beginning of Estonia, Jesse tells Zach, by the way, Greer has tested positive from COVID and we’ll sit out the week. So explain the timeline of when you found out, obviously it was still in London, right?
How many times were you testing a day? Who came in and told you and were your symptoms bad or you just had it and just had it? I
found out, yeah, I found out in Estonia. So we get all the way there.
You were there. Okay. Okay. Gotcha.
Yeah, so we get to Estonia, and I had no symptoms. It was weird, I had, I had a cold a few days before, but, you know, obviously, we take it every single day to test and make sure that we’re good, and I was always fine, then all of a sudden I get to Estonia, and I’m feeling fine, and I tested, apparently I tested positive.
I never saw it, but apparently I did. So I ended up being sequestered in my hotel room for about six days in Estonia.
Okay. So they had already left for Budapest and you were still in Estonia or yeah. Okay. So you were still, and you couldn’t do anything, right? I think I saw an interview that you did. You were just like literally.
They were dropping stuff off at your door. You didn’t, you, the TV wasn’t on or you couldn’t access basically anything. You didn’t have any, like, what did you do for six days?
Oh my God. I went insane. I, I, I had to burn my journal. I read it later and I was like, Oh my God, no one can ever find this. It was, it was just me by myself in this hotel room.
In a country that I didn’t even, I barely knew existed before I got there. And I’m in this hotel room and the only type of communication that I had was when someone called me for my food order. And so that was breakfast, lunch, and dinner. And obviously we can’t have our phones or anything like that, but they, I got puzzles and I got a coloring book.
And then what,
what are you fucking five years old with the coloring book?
I got a coloring book and yeah, I was, I was drawing between the lines and then the TV. It was in another language. Everything was in another language, but I found this English version of Noah’s Ark and I watched that every day.
Oh my
gosh.
That was, so they had to have at least one producer that stayed behind with you. Not in your room. No. But obviously there, right? Or they left the whole crew. No. Left to go to a Budapest and you’re stuck in Estonia by yourself. And then they tell you, oh, by the way, get on this plane and get in a cab and go to the air.
Like how did that all work?
I think that that, like there was one person that was left with me, but it wasn’t a producer.
Okay. But it was somebody, so it was somebody,
yeah, there was somebody, so, yeah.
Yeah. Okay. Mm-Hmm. . So, and then they said, okay, you’re finally clear. We’re gonna bring you to Budapest.
Yeah, pretty much.
And they’re like, your journey’s not over. I said, what?
I was gonna say, did you, did you want, did you have an option to be like, you know what, I don’t want to return to the show. I’m good. I just, can you send me back home? Or were you hell bent on, no, I want some sort of closure. I want him to say no to me or send me home versus me essentially quitting.
You know how, I don’t, I can’t remember if this aired or not, but how everyone got like books with like quotes on it or something that he wrote. Did that air?
I can’t remember. Yeah, I can’t remember either.
I can’t remember, but I got, I, my dumb ass thought that he gave this to me and only me. Because I was in my hotel room and I got this, this, this book, this like a journal.
And I think. I think it aired, because I don’t want to say, I don’t want to talk about things that haven’t aired, because I don’t, personally, I don’t want to get in trouble. But there was a book, and in the journal, it wrote something about how he, he really loves our connection, or something, and excited to see where it goes.
And I thought that I was given the journal, because I was quarantined, and it was like a book that was given to me to write while I was quarantined. In the hotel room. And then I later find out that he gave one to everyone.
Yeah, no, they aired that. Cause I remember commenting about the fact that it seemed like, like they went out of their way to show his gift to Katie over everybody else.
Like Katie got like the best. Like gift basket or whatever and I was like, okay if he’s gonna do that for her clearly, but I think they did Acknowledge the fact that everybody got Something.
Okay. Yeah, so I had no idea and I thought that that was him telling me that he wants me to stay
Yeah,
and to see things through
And okay, so they get you to go to Budapest and yeah you I think you had your talk with him.
I can’t remember at what point during, because Budapest was the last stop before hometowns. So basically, It was you, I’m trying to think, who got eliminated before Hometowns? It was you, Kat, and who was the, who was the third that got eliminated before?
It was Allie.
I’m trying to look here. Allie, wait, who’s Allie?
Why am I blanking on an Allie? I
don’t know. A L L I E. She’s the one that had the helicopter date with him, where they, they jumped out of the plane.
Oh, okay. Skydiving. Yeah. Okay. Now I remember her. Let’s see. Katie had a, Katie had a one on one in Budapest. Go to
Brooklyn.
Ariel Gabby. Oh, Brooklyn was the one.
No, Brooklyn.
Brooklyn had, yeah. She had the second one I’m on. Yeah. Yeah.
And then the group date was Ariel Gabby Charity, and Kat. So Kat, Brooklyn, and you were the three that went home episode before Hometowns. But you did get to talk to him. I mean. What was your, what was your confidence level of possibly getting a hometown heading into that talk with him?
Were you 50, 50, or were you like, it’s probably a last ditch effort here because I just literally haven’t seen the guy in two weeks or whatever.
Yeah. Yeah. I was very, I, I was very delusional, Steve. I really was. I was like, I thought that the reason why they sent way out to Budapest was to finally get a one on one with him.
I thought that I was meeting up with him for a one on one. I’m such a hopeless romantic and I always have to see things all the way through. I’m a very zero to 100. I didn’t want to leave and think that I self sabotaged or I left too early. I never wanted to think what if, and I, I get, I get to the hotel room to speak to him, and I, and I also knew that I can’t go in with negative energy, I need to be positive, I need to think, hear what he has to say, and then together, we can figure out what the next step is.
Form of action is like, what are, how are we going to move forward? And so we sit down together and he starts asking me a ton of questions as if I was like, oh shit, like it’s my decision, you know, asking me questions, things like, do you want to still give us a chance? Do you, are you comfortable with meeting your family?
And all these questions made me think, oh wow, like this person actually. wants to continue on with me and it’s up to me and okay, and then We had a little break and then he came back and let me know that He couldn’t, he wasn’t, he needs to be a hundred percent sure about who he takes home with, who he goes home with.
And he’s not a hundred percent sure about me. And in that moment, I completely understood because I knew we were both robbed so much time together. So I didn’t take any of it personally. And just in that moment, I wasn’t, I didn’t, everyone knows this. I’m definitely. a crier. I in that moment, it was like a mixture of just exhaustion after everything I went through getting to that point being disappointed, but then also just completely understanding.
And I, I didn’t, I completely understood where he was coming from. And it just didn’t make sense. Like, I was comfortable bringing him home to meet my family because I knew he’s a good person. He’s a good guy and that we had something that was there and then I just wanted that more time I wanted more time with him to see if there’s something If something really was there, which is why I was okay with bringing him home to my family.
Do I think that I was anywhere close to where he was with either Charity, Katie, Ariel? Absolutely not. Especially after watching that back. Absolutely not.
Well, the crazy thing is now that I’m looking at it and just kind of looking at the schedule here, after you got eliminated, after Zach eliminated you in Budapest, Did you get to say goodbye to the women by any chance, or no?
No, I didn’t. I just went home.
So literally the last time you got to see the women was London, right? Like the last time you saw them was London. Well, you saw them in Estonia? No. Or, or did you? Well, actually when, or you traveled with it. Estonia. I saw them
in, no, I saw them in Estonia. But Katie, who is the sweetest human, yeah, she slid a note under my door.
And I still have it.
When you were, when you were isolated and had COVID? Yes. Okay.
Yes. And she wrote me a love, pretty much a love letter and, and said that, you know, she misses me and told me that everyone else missed me and how she wants me to get better. And hopefully she gets to see me soon. It was so sweet.
And it
was, it was really nice for her because Katie was my roommate for a couple of weeks.
Gotcha.
And we got really, really close and so in that moment that felt really good to know that at least. My, my presence was missed during that time. Yeah,
that’s right. Estonia, you obviously traveled, I keep forgetting you.
Yeah. You traveled from London to Estonia with the women. And then when you got to Estonia is when you said you were told by the way, you know, when they tested you, you have, you have COVID we have to isolate you. So yeah, Estonia would be the beginning of Estonia would be the last time you saw them. So here’s my question when you leave Budapest and you know, Zach, Zach eliminates you.
