You mentioned Louie, Teresa’s
husband.
We already know that I think the last husband she had before the one that got deported to Italy or after the one that got deported to Italy. Joe, wait, no, no, that’s, that’s Melissa’s husband. That’s
Joe, yeah.
What’s, what’s Teresa’s? No, no, Teresa’s
ex husband is Joe as well.
Joe, Joe as well. Okay.
She married, she married, she got married after him to somebody else, not Louie, right? No. Or Louie’s the first guy after Joe. Louie’s
the first guy after.
Okay. What is his deal? I, I, I thought, I thought I hear something that he’s shady. Nobody likes him or he’s just not
he comes across as like a tinder swindler.
He’s like Love bombing her. He seems to like the camera a lot He has said some things that are pretty weird and aggressive on the show One of the cast members says that her son received a phone call from him threatening him Meanwhile, the son’s not on the show. No one even knows what the son looks like because he’s a private person So he doesn’t really seem to respect boundaries Is And people feel like she’s a different version of herself with him.
And the love bombing is so over the top. And then there are all these other social media videos that get out. Now he has been. In fights with many exes and two in particular are out for the sky. So they probably on their own have released these videos, which are pretty humiliating. And why would think so?
Like Louie went to some weird, like prayer warrior dude conference where they required them to make videos to the lady that they screwed over while they’re all standing behind him like a cult. And Louie’s professing his love. I’m gonna do better. I’m gonna come back and I’m gonna change things. You’re gonna see, it’s gonna be better with all these men behind him.
He just, like, he kinda just makes the hair on the back of your neck. You know, you’re like, oh my god, what? And she’s just You feel kind of bad for her in some ways because she went to prison. She gets out. She’s clearly rattled. It was like a moment where you thought she might repair her friendship relationship with her brother and his wife.
But then in sleep, like, comes this guy who just seems like Tinder swindler. And he knows all the right things to say to her. And so there’s never hope for her ever reclaiming a relationship with her brother. They despise one another.
How’d she meet him?
I think like in front of the mailbox, like he just happened to walk by and I’m not exaggerating.
So he lives near her.
I think he wanted to date her. I think he was like watching the show. He
hung out next to her. People say that he was
also interested with another housewife in Miami before that. So I don’t know. It’s, these shows are not any different. It’s like somebody on the bachelor who, Found out a girl, you know, remember when Kel there was a story about Peter and Kelly, but I actually think that’s true, but you know, somebody meets a bachelor beforehand and then they end up on the show.
It’s like, you can tell people that are kind of like, oh, is this like, you’re not, it doesn’t seem like he’s there for the right reasons, if you will.
It’s almost like the Tanner and Brittany thing. If we see Tanner on season two of The Valley, it’s because we know But
imagine Tanner bonkers screaming and yelling and people suggesting that he’s got like information.
Oh, at one point, the guy apparently, he said he was best friends with Bo Deedle, who’s an investigative reporter. And at one point he bragged, like, I’ve got information on all of you. There were rumors that he was trying to sabotage someone else’s business deal. There are enough things that are said and written about him where you just go, wait, what, what is going on?
And since this last season of housewives of New Jersey wrapped, didn’t Teresa Phil, is she on trader season three, or I’m mixing her up with another show.
No, she wasn’t asked. I don’t think
what season she did a reality show recently. She
did the lower level one, which is called house of villains.
Oh, she did.
Okay. That’s what I’m mixing her up with. Yeah. Okay. So she did house of villains that I think is coming out soon or this summer or something like that. But so Melissa and. Theresa, there’s just no way. No sage anything? No, no, no,
no. I don’t think the cousins even speak to each other. It’s pretty sad, but it’s like a never ending point.
Does
Theresa speak to her brother? No.
No. And her parents have passed away, so that’s really her Only relative, but they, yeah.
It’s that bad. Huh?
That bad. Really bad. Yeah.
I mean, you hate to see it, but yet. How many times have we seen this within a housewives franchise that marriages are ruined friendships, completely ruined.
Like, I understand that you have to put on an entertaining show, but what’s more important, like real loving friendships and or relationships or making good television.
These are not people that we know. These are people who want to be on TV. You know what I mean? A different thing.
I still all fascinating to me.
I do
watch. Endlessly fascinating. Yes.
And I get the this season I also started watching because they ran Vanderpump and Valley back to back. My DVR recorded watch what happens live on Tuesday nights afterwards. So I would get a lot of info from that show as well. Cause I’d watch it and I’d be like, Oh, I’ve always heard about this person.
And now here they are on the show. So I think at this point, You’re looking at kind of, I, I’m looking at it as that’s where I get my, my 30 minute fill of what’s going on in Bravo world. I pretty much get from watch what happens live, but I only watch that once a week. It’s not like I’m watching it five days.
I only watch it on the nights that Vanderpump and the Valley are on. So I want to transition to what we always transition into you with you into with you. And that is the documentary world, because you are queen of this. You watch all of them. You basically review all of them. You bring on the producers, the directors.
So sometimes the talent, sometimes the talent as well. There’s only one that I’ve seen. I shouldn’t say I’ve seen it. I doubt it. I bet you
have. I bet you, I bet you watch some of the stuff that I’m about to say.
I don’t, I can’t, I don’t think I have, but you like sports docuseries. Well, that’s the one I’m going to get to, you know, which one I’m going to bring up.
I have not seen it. It’s the three parter on Pete Rose. I
watched it. I’ve interviewed the director.
So I have not seen it, so it sucks that I can’t really give my thoughts on it, but I can give you thoughts of people that I know have seen it and what they thought. And there are two people in the sports radio industry that I follow.
I’m aware of one of them is a good friend of mine. And they literally had about as opposite of views on that documentary as you could get. One of them said, And I’m paraphrasing here after watching the documentary on Pete Rose absolutely deserves to be in the Hall of Fame was and he seems like, you know, it’s, it’s a disgrace that they’ve kept him out.
And then my other friend, the one that I actually do know said. Watched the same exact documentary as you and I couldn’t disagree more comes off as insufferable a Narcissist not sorry for anything. He did Absolutely couldn’t disagree with you more and it was just the first
person. What is the first person do for a living
is a sports talk show host
Oh, interesting.
Although I do think, if I’m not mistaken, and I could be wrong here, I actually think he has a relationship with Pete and he’s done radio shows with him, so clearly he’s gonna defend him. Well,
people say that he’s quite charming. He is not my ball of wax. Yeah. . But he’s can be perceived as charming. I think he’s a pathological liar.
Yeah.
I I don’t think he can even. Remember the lies. I think it’s like a compulsive thing. I mean, yeah, I mean, he’s really like getting up in age now, and there are a few people that kind of remember him and love him, and I think he’s having a hard time with that.
I think a lot of people have a hard time understanding why drug addicts and steroid users have been, you know, they, they say like, well, I mean, some of those have been.
Some of those guys have been kept out. Basically a lot. The main guys, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens have been kept out of the hall of fame. They clearly have hall of fame numbers, but they’ve been kept out for years because people just assumed they were steroid users. And people have said like, well, why not just create a wing in the baseball hall of fame?
There was an era. During baseball, when people used performance enhancing drugs, this is the wing we’re going to put those guys in. That doesn’t sit well with me either.
It defeats the purpose, the whole thing of hall of fame, like famed people, meaning like people that one would look up to. Yeah, no, that’s it.
That’s a juicy of a one interesting nonetheless. If you’re looking for a really good, interesting one, especially this week because of all the track and field events, I highly recommend sprint.
Oh, you’re going to say this Simone Biles one.
I, I have, I’ve watched that one and I interviewed the director of that one too.
The sprint one, I like a lot because there are, they’re, they’re all showboats. They’ve got fantastic personalities. It’s really compelling that they could make the docu series about a sport that’s literally 10 seconds, 20 seconds long.
And we only pay attention every four years to it.
But they are unbelievable athletes with the biggest personalities, but it’s also interesting to see how the juxtaposition of the facilities and the resources of an American athlete versus a Jamaican athlete and Jamaica, really, they are really the world leaders in sprinting.
I think for that reason, you know, the best documentaries and reality shows for me are ones that really opened me up to a world that I’m unfamiliar with. And even though I had a sister was a sprinter, I mean, I, Feel like I know a lot about sports. There are so many nuances that I found really compelling.
I interviewed a former Olympian Sonya Richards Ross, and she walked me through the kind of day you have when you were an Olympic sprinter and how it’s impossible to have a full time job because it’s down to how much water did I have? How much did I sleep? How much did I work out? How much did I eat?
I think all those interesting things are make this worth it. And I have to say that when you watch sprint and you see some of these races, you’re going to feel so much more emotion because now you’re going to know people’s backstories. So that one’s good. And also receiver. On netflix is good because yeah, that’s watching athletes are showboats, too I think quarterback you have a little people that are a little bit more cerebral a little more, you know, they’re the kernels of the whole of the the sport of football and and the The wide receivers and the tight end and george, they’re just showboats.
Their personalities are so Over the top and fun. And they’re also all kind of different. Like Amon is a little bit more measured and contained. They’re all really just interesting. So those are good. If you’re looking for a true crime one. The it’s called mastermind inside the mind of a killer on Hulu is about Dr.
Ann Burgess. She was the, she’s the inspiration for mind hunter to listen to her story. A woman who really was the first woman who worked at Quantico helping as a consultant with all these FBI and CIA agents about finding killers, just a ball buster. For example, she and her husband had to fly from Boston to Quantico all the time, so they both got their pilot’s license.
She would work and interview with all of these serial killers to get inside their mind, and has worked on so many big cases. She’s a total inspiration, an American hero, and very That’s a good one. Another good one is Sherry Papini. It’s actually called the perfect wife, the Sherry Papini story. I believe that’s on Hulu too.
And that woman is bananas. Crazy.
Yeah, we’ve seen that one got a lot of national attention when it happened because we were like, wait a second, a woman just claims that she was kidnapped by a Mexican couple and they bound and gagged
Mexican women.
Two Mexican women. Yes. Bound and gagged her. And then all of a sudden, wasn’t she found on the side of the road or something like that?
What she did was
she’d been, she has this history of making up stories, convincing people like she’s been abused. So there was a former boyfriend of hers that lived in Costa Mesa, California. So south of her by close to you. Yeah. Literally the next town over. So she convinces him that her husband is a horrible person.
He’s abusing her and she needs to be saved. So she pretends she went out on a run, like literally took her hair and wrapped it around like what looked like a Walkman and disappears. But she’s with the boyfriend. But she’s convincing him that he has to help her look all battered. So she wouldn’t eat. So she lost a bunch of weight, cut her hair off.
So it was like a pixie cut, had him brand her and then take a hockey stick and a puck and hit, hit pucks at her. So it would look like she was all bruised and battered. And then just shows up at a police department and says, I was dropped off on the side of the road. And then they find out. You know, years later that it was all a farce.
And of course she has to, she broke the law because all of these resources were put out to find her, which was all a lie. So what’s interesting about this doc is we’ve always wondered what is up with this husband? How did he not know he was married to somebody who is. Literally bonkers. And it’s very interesting to hear a story.
It’s it even gets wilder. So that one was good.
So whatever happens to her, is she in trouble? Did she end up going to jail? I don’t remember.
She went to prison and she’s out, but now she’s dating a guy who also has some sort of sketchy situation where his wife passed away and now people are wondering, was it Yes.
So lots of like, interesting stuff.
And didn’t she, I could be wrong on this, but cause I saw somebody put out a tweet about it and it could have been. Misled, God forbid there’s misinformation on Twitter, but didn’t she like since being released from prison, didn’t she go out and get a boob job or something like that?
To
I’m sure of it. And also she is trying to sell her story, her story, her version of events. I mean, she probably convinced this guy who probably is a little bit cuckoo too. You know, I, oh, this was all made up. I, people got it totally wrong. I’m a victim. So I think that’s why the husband went ahead and did this documentary to get ahead of her because she was being released from prison and he probably knew that she was trying to sell her story.
So what happened to the ex boyfriend that she went back to?
So they did a lie detector. They never charged him. I think he was bamboozled and I think he was utterly humiliated.
Was he in the dock?
No. No. He is like, please don’t ever contact me. I’m, this is a humiliating period of my life. I had nothing to do with this.
Yes. Even though she was staying with him, but she was staying with him because he thought they had enough. She was telling him
to, to be convinced that he should not be charged,
but he took her back because she said, you got to help me. My husband beats me. Yes.
Yes.
And I
mean, I listen. How many times have
we,
have we in our life met somebody who tells us this fantastical story about like a horrible ex and then you meet someone and they’re like, what are you talking about?
The guy’s totally normal or his wife’s great. But like, Oh, my ex is crazy. She just takes it to the worst level. And even the children apparently have made it seem to their dad. Like there’s a little bit of a Munchausen syndrome or a situation too.
So we don’t know her side in terms of her story, like why she doesn’t
want to hear it.
I’m like, good night, Irene. You’re crazy.
Yeah. I want to hear it just to see what she says. If she still sticks by it. Like, I wonder if she’s like when somebody is going to give her an interview and I got to believe that
any, a documentary. And I was like, she needs to go off the grid too.
So I’m wondering if her story is going to double down and be like, no, he did this to me by that’s why I ran back to my, or
I’m sure, I’m sure,
but she is with you got released from prison.
She has somebody now
she’s out and I think he’s paying all of her bills, but I mean, there’s another, there’s significant information that really makes you realize that she’s insane. And the husband is. Not telling a lie because she was freaking out because she had a job then she’d have money, but she wanted a certain lifestyle She had a history of doing really insane things
Didn’t she get released from prison in the year 2024 like earlier this year?
Yeah, is it like not so long ago? So how and she’s already married to somebody
else. She’s just with
just a boyfriend Okay, but
it just so happens that guy’s wife died and there are strange circumstances around it
Is it one of these things where it was like love after lockup or whatever? Did they start talking while she was in prison?
I
can’t remember anymore that, but, but, but enough, isn’t that a show? Yes. A lot of people have said to me, wait, there’s this whole other dynamic with who she’s dating now. It’s going to blow the door wide open.
That one, that one, I think I might watch, even though I’ve already read, I literally have read the people’s recaps of that documentary.
So I might not even, I, but I still want to at least kind of like see it for myself. But yeah, I remember that got a lot of traction when it came out, what, a couple months ago, it was like a couple months ago, it came out.
Yeah. Well, and also the last one I was going to say too, did you watch American nightmare on Netflix?
Cause that, that’s a thriller to remember the couple, they were on like 48 hours mystery and they thought it was a gone, gone
girl situation that, yeah, that was the big one too. And I’m, I, yeah. I did not watch it, but I’m very well aware of it. What, who are the two people involved in that
Denise and her, her husband, Aaron and
everybody thought that they were lying until they were lying.
Yeah. Yeah. Mm hmm. And it was this insane man who kidnapped her and just awful. And he’s crazy.
What about the one that I’m just seeing recently? I don’t even know if it’s out yet. The Scott Peterson one.
No, there’s like, there, there’s something going on case.
Okay. Yeah. Cause I saw somebody
really sick of Scott Peterson.
The interviewer was literally talking to him from prison. Like that’s part of this feature. Like he’s, Behind the glass and he’s picking up the phone and there it’s like the first time we’ve heard from him in 20 years because he’s been in prison. I’m
sure that people be interested in that. For me, the case that really is upsetting me now with so much information that we now know, and I may have already mentioned it to you before is I really believe that the Menendez brothers should be let go.
They’ve been in prison for about 26 years now, and I think we have so much information now That proves they were right when they said in the courtroom during their trial that their father had been sexually abusing them, and they had been fearing for their life, and that was the reason that they killed their parents.
Now, should someone kill someone else? No. But I think with all that we now know, And the abuse that they were subjected to, I think they’re 20 to 26 years is a significant amount of time. Like they should be released.
Did they say it was self defense or did they say we just decided to do it because
no, it was self defense.
They thought that he was because they were going to come forward and tell what he’d been doing because the abuse was getting worse and worse and worse. So,
gosh, how old are they now now that I think about it,
I think they’re in
their fifties or sixties. Yeah,
maybe like mid to late fifties.
Okay.
Wow.
Have there any other documentaries?
And it’s been like exemplary prisoners. They’re actually now in the same prison. They were not together for many, many years.
Oh, wow. Are there any other documentaries that you would,
I mean, obviously
there’s so many, but ones that tickle your fancy the most right now?
Well, right out this month, the end of the month, the untold series is back about untold stories of sports.
I always really love that one.
Yeah. And I saw one of them is going to be about hope solo. One of them is going to be about. There’s three that were announced in the untold series. I don’t, only one of them is coming to my head right now. And it’s one for me too. The whole
solo one jumped out. Gosh, what
was the other two?
It was I could, I could actually pull
another one. I’m, I don’t want to forget about this. Cause I kind of feel like you, you would enjoy it is the Netflix documentary, dirty pop, the Lou Pearlman story.
Yes.
Now, I interviewed the executive producers, one of which was actually in one of the boy bands that Lou Pearlman was in charge of and he had sort of aged out and they were going to do business together and he was with Lou Pearlman three days before he was arrested in Bali.
Oh,
okay. It’s a doozy. Yeah. It’s a doozy.
Untold Stories is on what? Netflix, right?
Netflix. It’s by the, the Way Brothers, McLean and Chapman.
Oh, okay. Here they are. The murder of Steve McNair, Aaron McNair. That’s the one that comes out on August 20th. Sign Stealer, which is about the Houston Astros sign stealing.
That’s right. And that’s August 27th. And then the following week, September 3rd is Hope Solo.
And they will be back with me the way brothers will be back with me to talk about it. And I would, hopefully I would really like to talk to Hope Solo too.
Yeah. She’s quite the interesting personality because she has been arrested a few times for domestic violence on her husband.
Like not
even, she was the, or maybe she claimed it, but then the police report says that, no, she was the, But that’s what
I like about the Untold Series is it truly is looking back at a piece of history and somebody who may have had a terrible reputation and allowing us to look at it through a different lens.
And I think the Manti Teo, two episodes are evidence of that. Like, I’m so happy for him and the success he’s now having, and the way that people have given him grace, and realize now that he was a victim of a con artist. It’s been really, really great to see, and I’m glad that they did that story on him.
I was somebody that did a 180 on that story. I remember coming out at the time that that story became public and I’m like, this guy is the biggest idiot in the world. And this was at the beginning of the whole catfish era, and I just didn’t understand how somebody could carry that on, carry a story like that.
Try and convince everybody, play a whole football season, telling everybody he lost his girlfriend and his grandmother at the beginning of the season. We know he lost his grandmother, but then to say he lost his girlfriend and, and kind of let the story continue. And then it had a break literally two weeks before the national championship game.
And you can only imagine what he went through. And then you watch the doc and you’re like. Okay. I get it now.
Yeah. Because you, you see how moving from a sheltered family in Hawaii when he’s only around family to move to Indiana in the cold with no resources or friendships around. And now you could be swayed by someone who truly was a predator.
And the worst part was they didn’t feel bad about it. The fact that they got the, got to interview them and that they would be that just so. Unwilling to say sorry. It’s just so gross.
It’s crazy. Anyway, Kate, once again, always great to have you on. I love your documentary recommendations. I definitely want to check out the Sherry Papini one.
What’s the name of it again? What’s the title? It’s called the perfect wife. Yeah. The mysterious disappearance of Sherry Papini. katecasey. substack. com every Monday, I put out a list of what to watch and you get that. It’s a great guide and you can also get my archive list. Go back weeks and weeks and weeks and see what I’ve put out every week of what to watch.
I also have a book club for nonfiction books and I’ve episodes six times a week, including Saturday series episodes where I interview people who have just really cool personal stories like the LNV and I just had on.
Nice. And of course you can hear you on the reality life podcast.
Reality life with Kate Casey.
Yes.
Kate Casey. Perfect. Kate, thank you so much for coming on. I really appreciate it. And we’ll bring you on again in probably three or four months. Like we used to do. We’re having you on quarterly is what we like to do. So again, Kate, thank you so much. Really appreciate it.
Thank you.
Thank you so much to Kate.
Love having her on every three months or so. A. Fountain of knowledge when it comes to documentaries. I really got to check out that Sherry Papini one. I’m guessing a lot of you have probably already watched it. I’m just so far behind on maybe when it comes to documentaries and stuff on streaming services, my stuff is usually just sports, you know, hard knocks, hard knocks again, training camp just started with the bears this week.
Receiver. I am watching that. So yeah, that’s where I get to, but I know there’s so many good docs out there. I just never get around to them. So hopefully before football season starts, I can maybe knock out that Sherry Papini doc. Cause I remember that story and I was kind of baffled by the whole thing. I was like, there’s something really fishy about this story.
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