PODCAST #412 – INTERVIEW WITH SHARON THARP TRANSCRIPT
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What’s up, everybody? Welcome to podcast number 412.
I am your host, Reality Steve. Thank you all for tuning in. Good show for you today. A first time guest, entertainment reporter Sharon Tharp, who’s been covering Big Brother for over 10 years, is on the podcast today. Good big brother talk again. We’re also talking survivor and the challenge, and we’ll get to all that momentarily.
So I did want to mention that the daily roundup today was posted a couple hours ago should be in your feed You know yesterday if you saw my instagram stories, I kind of threw it out there that hey Need your questions for tomorrow’s podcast, which is this one because At the time I mentioned that Sharon was iffy about being able to record because she was down in Florida.
She lives in New York, but she was visiting family in Florida. Obviously, you know, thoughts and prayers go out to anybody affected by. Hurricane Milton. I hope you know I’m recording this on Wednesday night. I know the worst of it was supposed to happen overnight. So I hope people are okay. All you can do is pray in this situation because there’s really nothing you can do.
It’s just it’s you just hope that it died down and it didn’t cause as much damage as some people were saying it would. But I was at a point yesterday with Sharon where I didn’t know she was gonna be able to come on. She said, I might have to delay it. And I was like, well, look, I need to have a backup plan.
I threw that out there. You guys sent in some questions. I’ll probably be using those on today’s or excuse me, tomorrow’s daily roundup. So, because I was able to record with Sharon, we got through it. And she seemed to be in out of harm’s way, but she said it was a little iffy there for a while.
So I do still have all your emails that you did send in. So I appreciate it. And I will probably get to those on tomorrow’s daily roundup. And those I don’t get to, I’ll probably just read throughout the course of the next few daily roundups, maybe do like one or two and add them in there. So that is on the daily roundup today.
Also talk some golden bachelorette. Look. It’s the editing, right? The editing You knew Chalk wasn’t going home, right? You weren’t fooled by that, were you? I understand that sometimes I have been wrong on my spoilers, but I’ve never been wrong to the point where I told you someone was the winner and they go home in episode four.
Like you had to give me a little more credit than that. You know, I wasn’t that far off. I didn’t know when we saw the preview at the end of last week’s episode of chalk getting into a car. I said, look, I don’t know what the, I don’t know what the reason is. And it certainly looks like he’s leaving, but.
Two things to point out number one if you watch the season preview at the end of the first episode of the season They clearly show chalk in Tahiti. So you knew he came back at some point did I think he’d come back 45 minutes? Later in the same episode. No, but I knew he was coming back and then number two just the way chalk eliminated himself We’re told Joan, he was leaving.
I never even, you know, even knowing the spoiler, I didn’t even get the impression that he was never coming back. That didn’t seem like a final conversation to me when he told her he was leaving. He did not say I might be back. He’ll see, he didn’t say I’m going to go home, assess the situation, and maybe I’ll return.
And I think they kind of left that. The way it was, they probably told him not to say that production because they wanted, you know, a quote unquote surprise. They had no idea if I was going to spoil the season or not, but yeah, if you knew the spoiler, you knew he was coming back. But even if you didn’t know the spoiler, just listening to that conversation, because you can compare it to what Joan said to Gary last season when she left, when Joan left last season, I didn’t think there was any doubt that she was never coming back.
Like it was a final, final conversation. And while Joan was sad and chalk was sad, just the way he worded it, you never thought that this was the end of them. And that’s without the spoiler in there. I hope you all saw through that because we know what happened at the end of last week’s episode when they showed the preview for last night’s episode, it was so many emails sent to me.
I thought you said chalk one, it shows him leaving next week. And you know, I said on last Thursday’s podcast, Hey, I don’t know what happened. I just know he wins. So he obviously comes back and they didn’t even wait 45 minutes to bring him back on the show and it’s clear by now watching the episodes and watching Jones reaction when he left watching Jones reaction when he came back.
I mean, I, I, I, You never want to go. I I’m not telling you the edit is the reason why Joan chooses chalk in the end. It’s the information I have as to why I know she chose chalk in the end, but it’s clear as day watching this show, there is one guy and one guy only that she is way into more than the other ones.
And it is Mr. Chalk. Chapel. I also talk about love is blind and the daily roundup today. If you have not seen episodes seven through nine that were released, a couple doozy storylines that pop up out of left field. One of them we actually talked about yesterday because it was brought up on social media, but it was finally brought up on the show nine episodes in.
That was kind of weird. There was another couple that all of a sudden. It looks like they’re just done and again, another incident that comes out of left field. So yeah, some, some doozies in episodes seven through nine that were released yesterday on Netflix. I do give my thoughts on those in today’s daily roundup.
So if you haven’t watched it yet, then you’re gonna have to fast forward through those and then survivor with another good episode last night. What an absolute. 180 by Genevieve who literally got no screen time in the first three episodes and then she’s Masterminding this plan to get the two guys that hate each other the most to vote together to vote out somebody who brought up her name as basically Somebody throw out there as a possible pawn, I guess and she’s just like well, let’s see if I can get Saul And Rome, the two guys that hate each other the most to vote together.
And she did great gameplay by Genevieve last night. Really good episode anyway. So that is what happens on the daily roundup today. So go check that out. It should be in your podcast feed, Apple podcast or Spotify a couple hours ago. It’s a podcast brought to you by Prolon Life. Everyone’s talking about fasting these days.
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Steve for the special offer. That’s Prolon life. com slash reality. Steve for 15 percent off their five day nutrition program. All right, let’s get going. Podcast number 412. All right, let’s bring her in. This is a first time guest. She is the host of the exclusive with Sharon Tharpe podcast. She covers all things, pop culture, including big brother, which I really want to dive into.
It is Sharon Tharpe. Sharon, thanks for coming on.
Thank you for having me. I’m really excited, Steve. I’ve, I’ve been following your stuff for so many years, like working out as weekly and all these. sites and the bachelor stuff. And so I’m very familiar with your work and really appreciate you asking me to be on.
I didn’t, I didn’t know you worked at us weekly. How long ago was that?
I mean, I haven’t worked there in, let’s say a year and a half, but then I was there for six, six or seven years. So it was quite a while. First
off, I want to ask how you’re doing because while you live in New York. You are currently sitting in Florida as we speak, and you’re in Vero right now.
Vero beach. What is it like right now? I mean, we’re recording this at about six o’clock Wednesday night, and this is where Milton is supposed to hit, I guess, tonight into tomorrow morning is where it’s supposed to be, I guess the worst of it. Where are things at with you right now?
Yeah, well, I, you know, I was kind of frantically messaging you because we weren’t really supposed to be hit.
And then it’s sort of. You know, moved and all these tornadoes started popping up before the hurricane really even hit Florida. And so there was a tornado a few miles south that was 2 miles wide. And so downtown Vero Beach is a little messed up right now. This is what I’m hearing. But again, this is like.
Still coming in. I don’t really know all the details currently. We seem to be okay, but it’s, yeah, it’s scary. I came down to visit my family and of course, like, you know, a terrible hurricane. So is it, is
it storming outside right now? Is it just raining? It was,
it, it was, it’s calmed down a little bit. I can see like the street is completely flooded out.
So my, my brother’s house right now, there’s a pond that’s over. Yeah. So not great.
Oh, not the easiest segue into things, but I, I do want to, because you were a first time guest, I do want to kind of jump into your background and how you kind of got into all this. So just tell everybody a little bit about your background, where you went to school.
Is this something you always wanted to get into? Did you kind of fall into it? Where are we at with you and your career in this?
Yeah, I mean, I’m 15, almost 20 years in, I went to school for journalism, really wanted to be a magazine editor, so I was interning at Hearst for a bunch of magazines throughout college and, you know, I graduated right when the recession hit and all those magazines folded, and I realized, digital media is where is it, where it’s at.
And so I’ve sort of worked my, worked my way around, worked for, you know, I’ve written for, for a bunch of different publications. I was at Just Jared for a long time. Obviously I was at Us Weekly for many years. I’ve written for People Magazine and other, other brands. And currently I’m at the Arena Group sort of working on a parade men’s journal and some of those brands.
So I’ve been all over the place. I, I love entertainment and celebrity. And so that’s definitely where I lean and I’ve been covering big brother professionally on and off for, I’d say 10 years. So yeah, it’s, it’s been a wild ride. And now that I’m sort of not so much writing, I’m more of like an editor or a manager, I just needed that creative outlet.
And so I, so I just started my own podcast in addition to my full time job, of course. So it’s a lot of work. I respect podcasters, you know, this is not easy and but I love it. Like, I just love talking about reality TV and celebrities and all that stuff. So.
Just, just out of curiosity, because you had worked at those magazines in the past and you said you had followed me, had you, have you ever reached out to me in the past?
No. Cause bachelor wasn’t really my beat, but I, yeah, like I definitely, I mean, I think everyone was watching your stuff, so I was definitely familiar, but no, I don’t think I’ve ever personally reached out to you.
Okay. Because I’ve had somebody in the past that was on the podcast and when we were talking and they were like, yeah, I was with they weren’t with us weekly.
I think they were in, they were working with in touch.
And
when I get, I literally during the podcast as a recording, I Googled them and I found an email that they had sent me literally from 2013 asking me for a quote about Quinn Kim Kardashian’s marriage to Chris Humphries. I’m like, yeah, Oh my gosh, you did reach out to me a long time ago.
What a throwback! I know. Talk about, talk about old school. How many marriages has she had since then? I think it’s been, it’s been Kanye, somebody else after Chris and then Kanye, if I’m not mistaken. But yeah, it was just so random. And I was like, the email was like from 2012, 2013 or something like that. It was over a decade old, but we, we came to find out that she had contacted me before and just thought I was, that was random.
But by the way, what college did you go to?
I went to the college of New Jersey. It’s just a state school, actually a really good school in, in Jersey. So yeah, no fancy college, but like I said, I was like an overachiever. So I was interning, you know, the whole time for free back then. Obviously you interned for free, which wasn’t ideal, but.
But yeah, and then I worked, I worked at a startup for a while too. That doesn’t even exist anymore, but good experience. Cause you know, startups are kind of crazy. So I’ve done, I’ve done corporate startups, entertainment. Now I’m dipping my toes into sports a little bit. So like kind of all over the place, but I just love, love reality TV.
So that’s what sports are you doing? Well, right now I’m, I’m sort of overseeing and working on surfer, stone border, powder, bike mag, and what’s my other one? Oh, trans world skate. So I know nothing about these sports, but I’m going in and more as the strategic arm, obviously not as the expert in these fields, but it’s been really fun just kind of branching out a little bit and trying something else.
But I find myself missing entertainment. So,
It’s interesting because obviously working in that field that you do, obviously there’s so many different topics to cover and you said, you said you watch a lot of the reality shows and you’ve covered it. You follow my stuff back in the day and, you know, I look at it and.
I’ve kind of had a, an on and off relationship with, with us weekly over the years, sometimes I, I don’t like their coverage of things and sometimes I’m fine with it because you know, I, I like it when they just give me like a recap of somebody that went on a podcast, that’s pretty much what I use them for now is I don’t want to re I don’t want to listen.
I don’t have 90 minutes sometimes to listen to other people’s podcasts when I’m recording 11 podcasts a week. So when somebody has a big guest, especially in Batra nation world, And they do a recap. That’s what I want. I want the exact quotes because sometimes if I don’t get the exact quotes, then something can be completely taken out of context.
But it’s interesting. You tell me about big brother cause you’ve been doing it like you said, professionally for 10 years. I only jumped aboard big brother about five years ago. Season 21 is where I started. I had never watched this show ever. And the only reason I jumped on 21 was because when I saw the cast list come out, it was Holly Allen was somebody who had been on my podcast.
She had dated somebody in bachelor nation world. And I was like, Oh, I didn’t even, and I had Holly on the podcast and we had spoken a few times after I had her on, but it’s not like we were good enough friends where I knew she was going on big brother, they just released the cast one day. I’m like. Oh, wait a second.
I had Holly on the podcast a couple weeks ago or whatever it was. It was, I mean, it wasn’t a couple of weeks. I think it was six months earlier, but she was very involved with somebody from Bachelor Nation for a while. And her and I had a contentious relationship because I was telling her this guy is going to play you.
And he ended up playing her. And then she came on the podcast and kind of told me, yeah, you were right. But That was the only reason I started watching big brother at the time. And then a year later, I started dating somebody from that season. And it was just, it was just really weird how it all came to be.
And then I’ve watched it ever since because once I started watches, I was like, okay. And the reason I didn’t ever get into it is because I knew it took a lot of commitment and there was always bachelorette in the summer. I was like, I can’t watch something three times a week. It’s just too much for me.
But then I realized once I watched that season, I’m like, okay, I can’t, it’s not that. Now. Never really got into following, I can’t sit there and watch the live feeds. I will read the summaries again by the Twitter accounts. And now a lot of Instagram accounts and tick tocks, give me updates on what’s happening on the live feeds.
But when you talk about big brother, you say you’ve been watching it for 10 years and been covering it professionally for 10 years. Would you say it is? Your favorite one to cover. It’s the one you like the most. Are there other shows you like better?
I mean, it definitely ebbs and flows. Like, I’ve been a fan since the beginning, you know, one of my family shows.
And so it was always cool because I would, I always look at it from a fan perspective, obviously. My journalistic side comes in as well. But there’s been some seasons that were really tough to cover because one, they weren’t fun to watch. There was some nasty stuff going on. Obviously, we’ve had racist and homophobic people over the like, that kind of stuff is not fun.
At the same time, I do find it important for us to cover. So it does put me in a weird spot as a fan. I’m like, Oh, but you know, I cover it. I wouldn’t say it’s exactly fun. Whereas like something like this year, you know, I know there’s obviously polarizing people, but it’s just more fun. It’s a little more lighthearted.
Yes. There is some drama that’s not necessary. Maybe Angela, but but it’s, it’s at least fun. And I feel like everyone in there seems to be a pretty decent person. So again, I think it depends on the cast and the twists, you know, obviously there’s a lot of pretty lame ones. So I have some flows with each season.
Like I always enjoy it. I always come at it from fan perspective, but by this time of the season, when there’s four people left, there’s nothing going on in the live feeds. It is kind of boring. You’re like, all right, let’s wrap this up.
Yeah,
but, but in the, in the beginning of the season, when people are in there and mingling, like it, it is really fun.
Like the live feeds can be really fun, but they do get exhausting. And like, who has time for that? Right. If you have a full time job, especially like you can’t be sitting there all day, you know?
Yeah. Shout out to people who do cover the line. I don’t know how you do it. I mean, do they have a job? Like how can you sit there and watch something for eight hours?
If you have a job. No, shout out to them. I appreciate them doing it because it helps me kind of know the backstory of what’s really going on because CBS can only give us so much in the three hours a week that they, that they give us. And you know, it’s funny, you mentioned there are some seasons that have, you know, racism and homophobia that I think that was like my first season, 21 was loaded with it.
And there was a lot of bad stuff going on behind the scenes and in the live feeds. And it’s one of the most, from what I gather, And from what I gathered after the fact, when I got to know people from that franchise, it was just not a good season overall. One of the more disliked seasons I’ve found to be by the bachelor, by the bachelor, by the big brother community.
They just Did not like it. That’s why
I’m surprised you stuck with it because the season wasn’t that great, right?
No, it wasn’t. And I just, for me, you know, I found out before we started recording that you’re a big fan of Survivor as am I, it’s probably been my favorite reality show of all time. And it’s the reason I kind of like Big Brother is because The game aspect of it is what I appreciate the most.
I, I find the social experiment of both of those shows to be fascinating, where you have to vote somebody out who ultimately has a hand in whether or not you win. And that’s the part that I like about Survivor. That’s the part I like about Big Brother. The Big Brother game aspect of it and the corniness of it is where I can kind of just do, do without.
Clearly the challenges are not nearly as tough as the challenges we get in Survivor and Big Brother. Shows like the challenge, but I just liked the whole aspect of you have to vote somebody out, but not piss them off enough to where they wouldn’t vote for you in the end to win a good amount of money.
So that part is why I like both of the shows, but yeah, it can get silly. And corny I actually did a complete one 80 on janky world this season when it first started, I’m like, this is the stupidest thing I’ve ever seen. I’ve ever heard. And then the more they started showing the episodes and the more I saw the contestants in there being so annoyed by it and having to sing J a N K E janky janky.
I was like, I’ve actually, I actually love this. I think it’s, I think it’s hilarious. I got a janky world shirt already. I wore it last week on the podcast. Like I’m all in on janky world, even though you probably interview the contestants that are like, never talk to me about that. I’m sure they absolutely hate it.
But me as a viewer, it grew on me. I thought this is awesome. And I was just literally heartbroken when they literally murdered janky on national television. I was like, did we really need to go that far? Can we just have Ainsley come back in and be like, all right, janky, you’ve had a week. It’s my turn. I’m I’m back.
They literally murdered him. His eyes blew, blew off his head. It was, it steams up. I was like, okay, that was a little extreme. I guess that’s why I bought a janky world shirt to support him. Good for you. I should
have done that, I guess, but
so, okay. So you, you, you get the post you get to do post.
Eviction interviews, which I don’t know how CBS does it. I’ve never asked just because I’m so new and they do so many.
But
when I was with somebody from the show who had a podcast and was doing it the way CBS does their interviews. I was like, okay, this is you literally have to send in your questions beforehand.
And they are read to them and you don’t even, and you get like 10 minutes and I’m like, okay, this is not for me. I don’t want to, if I want to interview somebody from the show, I want to talk about a lot of things. I want to, you know, kind of dig deeper on them. And it just asking five questions that are, you know, pre approved wasn’t for me, but you get, I think it seems like you get a little more time.
It’s done a little bit differently. You’re approved to do it. So this season in talking to the contestants that you have, has there been anybody that I don’t know, stuck out more than anybody else that you interviewed somebody that you’re looking forward to interviewing, where are you at this season with the, with the contestants?
I mean, there’s definitely when you’re in the jury, it is a little frustrating. Like I would prefer to talk to them. And I think there is a way to do it where CBS is, I mean, they’re on the call anyway. So it’s like. How much could I really give away? But I do understand like the way you phrase questions can be very leading and like giving information.
So I get all that, but yeah, it is a little frustrating. Like I would love to talk to Angela straight, you know, to her face, but funny enough, I, I, I sent the questions in cause I’m like, how do I, you know, liven this up a little bit? And cause everyone asks the same questions and it’s not, it’s not ideal, but I do it because I know the fans really like to see the answers.
And so that’s why I do it. But. For Angela, like, my first question was, like, I don’t know, something silly, like, weren’t you on The Price is Right? Like, how did you not understand, like, You Can’t Go Over? And also, can you explain that in your Jennifer Coolidge voice? And she did it. And, like, I just tried to, like, spice it up a little bit, because you’re right, like, once it gets to this point, it’s, like, not ideal.
You know, I wish they did it a little differently, but I will be talking to the the final three and America’s Favorite Player right after the finale, so. You know, that’s fun, but I, I’m, I’m, I’m assuming Tucker’s going to win America’s favorite. I don’t know. Yeah.
That’s, I guess that’s the biggest thing right now.
People are going to start breaking down big brother. You know, we are recording this Wednesday, so when this airs Thursday, tonight is going to be. The eviction, we know that Chelsea won last HOH, she put up Rubina and McKenzie, McKenzie won Power of Veto, she’s obviously going to take herself off, the only person to put up is Cam, and now the question is, who does McKenzie want to bring to the final three?
It has been a, pretty much a foregone conclusion. That Mackenzie, Chelsea, and Cam wanted to be the final three a few weeks ago. They’re saying we need to be the final three. And from everything I have been reading online, that seems to be where it’s headed, that Mackenzie will vote Rubina out tonight because Rubina, she thinks she’s already got two votes.
She’s getting T Core and Kimo’s vote no matter what. And they cam has been so piss poor and all the challenges, whether he’s throwing them or not, he’s just been terrible. So that is somebody you would want to bring to the final three because you have two competitions. You got the first one and then the second one, seemingly they’re going to be won by Mackenzie and Chelsea.
Because cam hasn’t shown us any ability to win a challenge this season or any sort of comp. So, it makes sense. Probably it’s what can happen tonight. Everything, anything, something can change in the last 24 hours or being, it can maybe come up with a good story, but it, it doesn’t seem like Mackenzie wants to bring Rubina because she thinks Rubina could tell a story, been on the block five times.
My alliance is gone and I’m still here. And like I said, she’s already got two votes. She’s going to get to T CORE and if she’s sitting there in the final two. Could she pull two more? I don’t think she could win if she’s sitting against McKenzie or Chelsea. You know, you never know, juries can change.
Crazier
things have happened.
Crazier things have happened. Something that was interesting that happened with you when you were doing the interview, you actually went out to a live show recently, right? Eviction show. And it was the night that Quinn got evicted. And Quinn pointed you out in the audience when he sat down, like he said your name and all that.
And was it cut from the, what happened there?
It was, it was, I just wasn’t expecting it, but. Where I was seated, it was like in the direct eye eyesight or eyeline of of the evictees. So when he came out, he, I was the first person he saw. Also, Julie wasn’t there if you were a call. So like, it’s not like he was like wrapped up in jail.
I mean, he looked at Jerry, like said hi, but then as soon as he sat down, he was like, Oh my God. And then it cut. And then I got all these tweets. Like, did Quinn just see Sharon? Because like, why did he say, Oh my God. And sure enough, he goes, Oh my God, it’s Sharon Tharpe. He goes, Sharon. And he starts trying to talk to me.
And then the hair or makeup lady, like, like moved in front of him so he couldn’t talk to me and then like, because we’re on a commercial break and she kind of moved back and he goes, I loved your interview with Dr. Will and I just like, give him a thumbs up and and then in our exit interview. You know, I sent the questions in and he knew it, it was for me.
And he was like, Sharon, it was so rude. They cut us off, you know, what I was trying to, you know, really sweet guy, but I wasn’t expecting it. Yeah, once in a while they like know who I am, but I didn’t think this cast really would because a lot of them are are not really big fans of the show, I don’t think so.
Well,
pardon
my, pardon my
ignorance here, but how did they cut that off? If it was, it’s a live show.
So it was, I don’t think they cut it off because of me. I think they were going to cut it off anyway. It just happened to be that, that time. Cause they just cut back into the, into the kitchen for that. They cut into the house guests talking and then they went to commercial break or something like that.
Gotcha. Okay.
Yeah. I do remember him coming out and saying that, but I don’t remember it going straight to the kitchen feed. So, yeah. When you you know, you bring up Angela, polarizing character this season, some people are thinking that she’s going to win AFP. I don’t get it personally she seemed to be very much kind of a Karen in the house.
I mean, she was, the whole thing with Matt I thought was rude calling Lisa a twit. Was rude. I don’t understand the love for Angela this season. The amount of crying that she did. I don’t know if you got into that with her, but what were your thoughts and just Angela overall as a player?
Because yeah, look, nobody’s universally hated and nobody’s universally loved on any reality show. I guess I’m just more surprised that it seems like there is more love towards Angela by the public then. Man, she was really nasty to some of the people in the house, which is what the impression that I got from her.
But I don’t know. Maybe I’m in the minority. I mean, what about, what do you think
it depends on who you look or who you ask or where you’re looking obviously on Facebook and Facebook groups and stuff, which I sometimes, I don’t know why I go and look, but there’s a lot of hate in there. It’s not like I’m like, Oh, Angela is the best player and whatever, but I love good TV.
I do think she’s very performative. I think in one of her exit interviews, she’s like, I don’t even cry. And I’m like, girl, you’re crying all the time. But I think she, and again, I don’t hate on anyone. If she’s been on TV before, that’s not a big problem, but she knows cameras. She knows what TV is about. She knows how to perform and make good, whatever you think good TV is.
Do I think a little bit, a little of it was like, Unnecessary and nasty. Yes. I guess also, God, I hate to say it, but like, I’m so used to really horrible things that when she’s like, just not nice. I’m like, eh, you’re just not, not the nicest person. Do I think she should be like crucified for it or lose her job?
No. But do I think she needs to probably look at some of her actions and learn? Of course. I think that’s the thing with this show and being a social experiment is like. You’re in there, and you don’t have access to the outside world. It’s such a weird thing, and you probably are going to be annoyed with people and not be so nice, but as long as you can come out and sort of reflect on those things and change for the better, I think that’s fine.
I think we should hold people accountable. But yeah, I guess comparatively, I’m like, well, thank God there’s no one like I mean, bullying, like, I guess it was borderline at some point, but
yeah,
yeah, it’s, it’s tricky. I, I, I looked at her as a TV character. I don’t know what she’s like in real life, but as a TV character, it was fun for a while.
I definitely think people got a little over it by the ends. So,
yeah, I think, you know, and from everything that I’ve read and people that are historians on big brother and have watched in season one, I definitely am under the impression that nobody outside of jury has ever won AFP.
And
it looks like there is a good chance that someone like Tucker could, because he was just, again, another polarizing figure in the house to me.
Again, another person that he wasn’t seemingly, I don’t know, but there, I guess there are things online that he was saying in the house that maybe weren’t appropriate, but he was just somebody that was a little extra for me. Like I didn’t understand why he was acting the way he was, why he conducted his confessionals and the diary room stuff the way he did and speaking in different voices and trying to act like Jim Carrey.
I didn’t understand that because I had seen interviews with Tucker that before he was ever on this show. And I was like. That guy seems normal. Why is he acting like this in the house? And I guess it just could be because he knows he’s on TV and he wants to be a character. I get it. It just isn’t for me.
So I have no problem with people that just, I want you to go on and be yourself on the show, not put on an act. And it seems like he was putting on an act, but he was so comp dominant and so seemingly well liked by the public. Like again, maybe I’m in the minority and maybe it’s just like old man screaming to get off my lawn.
I don’t know, but he, he. Your thoughts on Tucker, especially when you spoke to him afterwards, when you interviewed him, what were your thoughts on him?
I mean, yes, this one’s tough too. Cause like, he’s not very good at big brother. I don’t think he was ever going to win. I think he was always meant to sort of flame out where he did.
I do think like, like a sort of Angela, like he, he made the game at least, especially if you’re a live feeder, like it made it interesting because it gets really boring watching those live feeds. And anytime he was on camera, I was always listening. So that tells me something that I at least. found him interesting.
But I get it. Like he’s maybe a little performative himself. He gives me very much, you probably won’t get this reference, but Zachary vibes from, from BB 16. Just like, yeah, he’s just like a, I don’t know how old he is. It’s just like sort of a wild character that was probably put on a little bit more for the cameras.
Again, I don’t hate it just because to me, if you’ve got people who don’t do that, they’re all just sitting there and it’s kind of Hey, So it’s a fence. It depends. Are you talking? Yeah.
Yeah. I get it. I get it. Some people just are better at acting in front of the camera and just they want to produce, they know they’re on a TV show, so they don’t want to sit there and just be boring.
Like someone like cam all season long, you know, he’s getting crucified for being boring and doing nothing and not having much of a personality. And it’s almost like, okay, but. I’m more a crucifying cam because it doesn’t seem like he cares about the game. It doesn’t seem like he’s playing. He just seems like he’s enjoying a vacation.
Whereas, you know, competing for 750, 000. And the thing that’s just head scratching about cam all season long is he’s a former division one athlete who played football at Penn state. How can you not be good at anything? It’s just, it’s, it’s mind boggling to me. And I do think. If Chelsea or Mackenzie takes him to the final two, they are winning seven, nothing.
I can’t see him getting one vote. And now based on everything that I’m reading and based on everything that they seem to be saying to each other, Chelsea and Mackenzie want to take each other to the final two. They want an all girls final. And they want to compete against each other. They don’t, they know they can beat cam and they’re saying that now, who knows what’s going to change in the next few days.
Once the, the first two competitions, final competitions happen. And, and let’s say McKenzie wins comp one and Chelsea wins comp two or vice versa. And they both win the final two competitions. And then one of them, and obviously someone has to win the third one and then determine. When I had Taron Armstrong on last week, he seemed to think that McKenzie would end up taking Chelsea to the finals, but he thinks that Chelsea would end up taking cam because Chelsea might be saying, I want to take an Avenue girls final with you, but ultimately we’ll think better of it and take cam.
I don’t know where I stand right now, but let’s take Robina out of this. Cause we think she’s going home tonight of those three. Who do you think is winning?
Oh, I think it’s Chelsea’s game to lose. I think there’s probably. Very little chance someone else wins. Cam, I don’t think, really has a shot. I think Mackenzie, even if Mackenzie, if, I just don’t see Mackenzie taking Cam.
I do, I agree with Taryn. I think Mackenzie does seem to want to take Chelsea, which I do think is a mistake because regardless of what she says with her comp wins and all that, Chelsea was sort of pulling the strings behind the scene and can easily say, listen, I was I mean, Mackenzie sent her own ally home on her HOA.
Like, there’s a lot of flaws in Mackenzie’s game that I think she’s probably not thinking about. So, I agree. I think Chelsea is a little more savvy, and I do think she might have the guts to just cut Mackenzie regardless. But it’ll be fun to see. I, I did read something before we got on that Cam may have alluded to it, a big move.
And that’s, again, I don’t, this might be misinformation. I thought hamster walk or someone tweeted, but he was like alluding to having to make a big move if he wants to win, which. I think you’re a little late for that.
Yeah. And if he doesn’t win any of the first two final comps, assuming he’s in the final three he can’t make a big move because he isn’t in control of anything.
He has to hope that Mackenzie or Chelsea takes him to the finals.
And that’s even the worst spot for him because he’s not even choosing.
Yeah. I just, let’s say Mackenzie takes, let’s just say a final two is Mackenzie and Cam.
Okay.
I, I think she wins seven, nothing. I don’t think Cam gets one vote. Maybe.
Maybe Chelsea votes for Cam because Chelsea’s pissed that Mackenzie got rid of her. That’s the only thing I can
think of.
Oh, maybe. Maybe. That’s it. I just Everyone, everyone in the house from everything that I’ve read this season about the live feeds and the conversation they’ve had seems to think that Cam is only there because he’s ridden the coattails of McKenzie and Chelsea.
Nobody respects his game. He can’t say like, I made this move. I was really good in these competitions. He’s just seems to be there because the girls know they could drag him because he wasn’t going to beat them. You know, so, and then if Chelsea sitting next to cam, she wins seven, nothing. There’s no way anybody votes for him.
So I guess our only interesting final could be McKenzie versus Chelsea. And at first I thought this could be a really good matchup. It could be a four, three vote because McKenzie can po could point to. I’m, if I’m not mistaken from what I’ve read, I don’t think anybody has won more comps. Any, any woman has won more comps in a season than her.
She might be tied for first with nine wins. Granted, two of those were AI arenas. AI
arena. Yeah.
Yeah. So, you know, either way to win nine times. I mean, that’s pretty impressive during the season, but like you said, on her own HOH, she sent home her ally. And for a very poor reason, it was because she was talked into it by Chelsea.
So, so I, I don’t know if she can get four, three, maybe she gets a couple votes, but yeah, this really does seem like Chelsea’s to lose.
I mean, even in my exit interviews and in the jury segments, we did see, they were all giving props to Chelsea, Leah, Quinn, even, and I think Leah, Quinn, and Angela are probably going to be a little bit of a voting block.
They probably vote very similarly. Same thing, obviously, Rubina So, yeah, I think it’s a hard row for Mackenzie if she, I mean, I just don’t see it happening. Like, what’s her final, she does have a cool story, right? Like, if she’s sitting next to someone like Kim, it’s like, yeah. Mackenzie was in trouble early on the game.
Remember the whole Angela blow up. And, and so she really, you know, it did impress me. She, she. Made some moves, but at the end of the day, like Chelsea was sort of running the show and anything that she can say, I feel like Chelsea can undermine her. And Chelsea has already been working on her speech. So yeah, I just, I just am trying to think like when, what world McKenzie can win.
I just, I don’t know. I don’t see it.
Yeah. I have seen those clips of Chelsea working on her speech and she seems to have this thing on lockdown. It looks like the only way Chelsea doesn’t win this thing is if Cam and McKenzie win the final two comps. And whoever wins that third one and makes the determination just decides to cut Chelsea because they know that I, I think Cam knows that Chelsea would beat him in a final.
And I think McKenzie thinks I have a chance against her. She’s not like, she knows I it’s not like McKenzie is, it doesn’t seem like McKenzie is delusional to think that I am absolutely beating Chelsea. If it’s us too, she knows Chelsea’s got a compelling story. It’s just a matter of, does she know it enough to cut her?
You know, that’s a
good point. That’s like exactly what I think. I think Cam knows Chelsea will be him. And I think Mackenzie, yeah, I think she thinks she has a shot, but I think she needs to really, really think through these votes. Like, I hope she does because, you know, at the end you always want like, yes, you want an exciting finale.
So Mackenzie versus Chelsea, I think would probably be the most exciting, but it’s also fun to see someone get cut last minute sometimes, you know, like on finale night. Yeah that’s always fun. And then I get to interview them a few hours later and some of them are still very, very upset. So,
yeah, no, it’s, it’s, it could shape, but I mean, that’s the thing going into the final four days of the season with tonight’s episode.
And then Sunday’s finale, this could be a very compelling final episode, or it could be. The writings on the wall. And the second we find out cams in the final two, we realize this is going to be a shutout. He has no chance to win. I just don’t see any, I don’t know if he’s, unless he’s got something up his sleeve that, you know, you talk about this big move that he can make.
I, again, I just, I don’t see it. I, even if, even if he wins one of these final two comps and cuts Chelsea, I don’t think everyone’s going to be like, Oh, wow. You know, that was what you were waiting for all season. I,
It’s not enough.
I think they’d vote for Mackenzie at that point because Mackenzie really kept herself in the game by all of her wins.
I think that was, you know, impressive and to have either the most or tied for the most wins by any woman in the show’s history. That’s impressive. And that would be her resume against Cam. Like, look, I was a beast and he did nothing. But right. Me and Chelsea’s coattails, you know,
I’m excited to see the jury round table too.
We don’t know who’s hosting it. I think we’re, we’re going to find out tonight. But that’ll be interesting to yeah, because once they start talking through their game, I feel like can’s going to be 1 of the ones that. The jury just is like laughing at and they’re trying to come up with things to talk about and listen This is not personal to cam.
He seems like a very sweet guy, but you know It didn’t seem like his head was really in the game. So
yeah, I mean, what was it last week when he was talking about? During BB comics. I just had to take a break. That was what? And they I mean the girls called him out. They’re saying What do you mean you took a break?
The whole point is to finish as fast as you can. That was wild.
I don’t even know.
So he doesn’t seem like,
yeah,
Just, and it’s just surprising because he’s a former division one athlete and and, and they’ve called him out. Did you, did you throw it? He’s like, no, I’ve tried on all these, which almost makes it even worse.
Like you’re actually trying in these and you might as well admit like, yeah, I threw it. Yeah, it’s like. At least I respect you more for losing every single comp this year. Has he won one thing? Honestly, I, I, I’m
not one of those people. I’m not one of those people that like always knows the stats, but yeah, I can’t remember one either.
Can I, unless it was an AI arena. They had more chances too. That’s even worse. They had more comps than usual because of AI arena. And he’s still his is batting. What? Zero to whatever the, I’m not a sports person,
but at most he’s won one thing. And I can’t remember what it was. If he did like, that is, that is really embarrassing and he’s just kind of laid low all season long.
And you know, it, it. There’s this whole love triangle thing too, with, it’s like, Chelsea wants him, Chelsea wants him, Chelsea seems to like him, but he hasn’t shown liking towards her and when he has paid attention to other women, it seems like Chelsea gets, A little bit jealous, like it, I’d be interested to see what happens post show because they’re recently, there’s been talk of Chelsea telling McKenzie, Oh my God, finale night, we’re going to walk out there with confetti and you’re immediately going to go kiss Matt.
And I’m like, Matt, really? The guy who was first eliminated, you’re still interested in this guy? Like what? It’s
been awkward to watch on social media because I mean, they haven’t even seen each other in like two months, right?
I know. It’s just like, I can’t imagine she’s really as much as into him, but, but yeah, I’m, I’m curious as I don’t know, as cam into Leah, then there’s that.
And then you’ve got Quinn, Leah, it’s just, it’s kind of all over the map. I don’t know who’s going to hook up with who, but we know. Something outside of Tucker and Rubina, who clearly we’re together in the house who seemingly want to continue this outside of the house. He has said it on social media.
Apparently he contacted her family and said he can’t wait to be with her. Oh, wow. And then Rubina has been saying it to the cameras. Like, can’t wait to see Tucker.
I mean, at least they’re on the same page. It seems like, like the other ones aren’t, it’s like a lot of unrequited relationships, but at least Tucker and Rubina are like, Both like each other.
So,
yeah, seemingly, seemingly they do, but it, and it’s also this thing of like, you were away at camp and you fell for somebody with no social media and no distractions. So. Are you just picking up because that’s what you remember them as, but you know, yes, some big brother couples have lasted in the real world.
We get it. Some have gotten married, some have had children, but nothing this season. And I’ll even say it for Tucker and Urbina. I’m not rooting against them. I’m just saying everything this season seems not serious. Seems like flirtatious, you know, kind of liked you during summer camp, but. When we get back to our regular lives and are we really going to carry on a relationship is, is one of us willing to move for the other?
Cause I don’t think any of these people live in the same city, so, or same state. So if it’s going to be serious, are any of these people willing to do long distance for a while and then move for the other person? I don’t get the impression, but you know, time will tell on something like that.
