We’ve all seen the comments from Caroline during the “Women Tell All” of “I know what you did…” and that’s in reference to knowing how Arie treated Becca during this whole break up. Again, IG stories show that Becca was in Florida with Caroline the weekend before Caroline left to go film the WTA. So obviously she knows everything involved and has been quite vocal about it. Caroline even said in post-WTA interviews with the media that producers gave her the go ahead to say that on camera, obviously wanting to hype up what’s about to happen next week. Normally would they allow that to happen? Absolutely not. But this is not a normal season and these aren’t normal circumstances.
Which brings us to this past Saturday. Thanks to a tip from fellow blogger/podcaster Kate Casey, I was notified of this set up happening in the early evening at the Monarch Bay Resort in Dana Point, the same place where Tanner & Jade had their wedding:
By all indications, what I’m hearing is that Arie and Lauren got engaged Saturday night. I can confirm they were there (Arie was flying back to AZ on his IG Sunday morning), I can confirm a film crew was there, and I can confirm that people there were told a “Bachelor proposal was happening.” Do I have solid confirmation that a proposal definitely ended up happening? No. But if you ask me if I think they’re engaged, I’d say yes. Too many things point to it and the intel is about as solid as I can get without actually getting the confirmation. So just know if next Tuesday night on the ATFR if Arie and Lauren announced they’re engaged, it happened this past Saturday night at the Monarch Beach resort. Lauren is moving to Arizona and in with Arie as soon as this is all over. Yet another reason why I do think the engagement happened. Lets hope for their sake it didn’t, but I’m pretty sure it did. There are already rumors out there of a pregnancy, but I think that’s just people feeding into this crazy narrative. I have not heard anything about a pregnancy. If she got pregnant in the fantasy suite in November, she’d be four months along and I’m pretty sure I would’ve heard that by now. If she got pregnant the day he saw her in Virginia (assuming that’s the first time he saw her since Peru which I believe it was) that means she’d be less than 7 weeks pregnant and I doubt that’s the case. So lets not immediately start giving in to click bait stories.
This is all on Arie. He screwed Becca over, no ifs ands or but’s about it. And no, not because he broke up with her. If he wanted to end an engagement because he wasn’t feeling it with her anymore, he has every right to. But to do it the way he did and blindside her with a camera crew, go ahead, make all the excuses you want for him. That was bullsh** and he’ll be raked over the coals for it. Deservedly so. As for Lauren, I don’t really fault her in any of this because I don’t believe she egged him on in any way. It was his decision. Do I think it’s smart she took a guy back and is probably engaged to someone now who was just engaged to someone else SIX WEEKS AGO? No. I think it’s incredibly stupid. Not to mention, the person he was engaged to was the person he chose over you to begin with. It’s all ridiculously silly. But if you listened to my podcast with Possessionista a couple weeks ago, even she brought up the point that I’m guessing every final 2 girl thought at some point the lead made a mistake and would hope they’d come crawling back. It’s an ego thing. So when Arie did, and she had feelings for him, she accepted. If she believes his BS and she wants to be with him, that’s her decision. But to get engaged this quick? Jason and Molly dated for 10 months before he proposed. You’re going to wait 6 weeks? Just stupid. Her life, her choices, but she’s falling for the wrong guy and Arie is master bullsh** artist who will get tired of her and move on to someone else in a matter of time unfortunately.
Where does that leave us going forward? Right now, it’s impossible to know how they’re going to show what and when. I just know we’re going to see all of it. I know you’re all blowing me up asking which episode is going to show what things happening, and we just don’t know right now. I don’t produce the show. I have no idea. All I can do is guess based on how they showed things during Jason’s season. What we do know for sure is next Monday night the 5th is the 2 hour finale, with the live 1 hour ATFR immediately following. The NEXT night is another live TWO HOUR ATFR. I originally thought it was one but was told late last night it was two. For Jason’s season, when his finale aired, during their 1 hr ATFR is when they showed up the taped footage of Jason, Chris Harrison and Melissa and Molly on the closed set from what was recorded 6 weeks earlier. The next night is when they brought Jason and Molly out to talk about their relationship since that taping, they read a letter from Melissa (she wasn’t there), and they announced Jillian as the “Bachelorette,” which was all taped about a week earlier. My guess is next Monday night, when we go live to the ATFR, that’s where we’ll see the footage of Arie’s breakup with Becca, and his trip to Virginia. They basically alluded to it in the previews last night. We’ll definitely see that during the ATFR Monday night.
What we don’t know is how long that’ll take and if they’ll bring Becca out next Monday night after we see all the footage, or, if they’ll use everything as a cliffhanger to “tune in tomorrow night and hear from all the parties involved.” We just don’t know, and I don’t think any press releases are going to give it away either, since technically the unspoiled don’t even know what happens in the finale, so they can’t say in a press release, “and Becca will be here to discuss everything.” I know you’re dying to know, but we’re really not gonna know until next Monday night when the finale is airing. But you can count on the fact the ATFR after the finale will be showing the footage of the breakup and him going back to Lauren. It’s just a matter if they bring any of them out live that night.
The NEXT night with the two hour ATFR on the 6th, because it’s two hours, is my guess on when we’ll see everyone. I don’t even know where Kendall fits into all this. Maybe they’ll show her on the first ATFR before they show the break up, but honestly, she’s so not a factor in all this, and the fact she left with class and didn’t have a meltdown, I mean really, does it matter if we hear from her? Everyone knows something major happens after the rose ceremony in Peru where Arie dumped Lauren and proposed to Becca. Bogging us down with Kendall’s thoughts just wouldn’t seem like a smart TV decision, but hey, that’s just me guessing. I reported to you last week that Jason & Molly will be a part of the live ATFR on Tuesday, the 6th. I can confirm that Jason already taped a segment last week with Arie that’s going to air on one of the two nights, and I’m still being told that Jason & Molly will be there on the 6th.
Now your next question is about “Bachelorette” I’m sure. After seeing what they’ve pulled in recent seasons and their last minute change ups, it’s basically impossible to tell you for certain who it will be. However, everything I’ve told you since January stands true. I’ve always said Becca will have all of America behind her, she has the best built-in storyline of any previous contestant going into the “Bachelorette,” and the only way she wouldn’t get the gig is if she didn’t want it. Everything I’ve been told up to this point has led me to believe she wants it, they’ve talked to her, they’ve filmed in MN, and she will be the “Bachelorette.” When they’re gonna make this announcement, I don’t know. If we see Becca on Monday night, do they bring her back the next night and announce her? If we don’t see her til Tuesday night, do they have her talk to Arie then announce her later in the show? That’d seem weird. We know the announcement will happen on one of three shows: the ATFR, GMA, or Jimmy Kimmel. But since we don’t know how next Monday & Tuesday night are playing out yet, impossible to know when the “official” Bachelorette announcement will be.
So the speculation about Tia, Bekah, or Seinne, or even Kristina aren’t even in the ballpark. You can’t be the “Bachelorette” when they haven’t even approached you about it yet. None of those girls are going to be the “Bachelorette.” Everything I’m being told is it’s Becca, which should surprise no one. We know they’ve pulled last second change ups in the past, but I really don’t expect it this time. I fully expect Becca to be the next “Bachelorette” and filming begins in two weeks on schedule to where it normally begins filming. I even have some of the guys for you which I’ll be releasing as we get closer to the first night of filming.
So I hope that was as clear and concise as I could be. A lot of that is fact, some is fact without proof, and some as you could read was my opinion based on things I’m told. Sucks for Becca, but by next week, we’ll be a good 7 weeks removed from him ending the engagement with her, so it makes sense she’ll have moved on. I’m sure she still harbors resentment towards him and the way he handled it, and I hope she lets him know about it. I wouldn’t hold back if I were her. That’ll be the fascinating part about next week. Nothing Arie says on that couch I’ll give two sh**s about because he’s gonna say and do whatever he can to save face. Becca’s reaction, either the day he ended it or next Monday (or both) will tell us a lot. Arie and Lauren together will only make the Arie nutjobs happy. They are in the minority and unfortunately Arie and Lauren are going to have to deal with a ton of scrutiny. I’m sure tears will be shed and he’ll say everything under the sun about how amazing she is and he did this all for her, but it’ll fall mostly on deaf ears. We know this guy’s game. He’s been a joke since the day he was announced, he was never interested in finding a wife on this show, he was a joke during the worst rated season in “Bachelor” history, and he’s a joke now. Got yourself a real keeper there, Lauren. Good luck with that. He’s your problem now.
adelina
February 27, 2018 at 9:38 AM
Thanks for this Steve. The ending is juicy and makes this boring season at least something to finally enjoy in the end.
I love that Arie is getting salty. Exactly as I would expect from a Queen.
pdxkg
February 27, 2018 at 9:56 AM
The franchise needs to stop taking its viewers for granted. It is unbelievable that Arie, Nick, Annoying Ashley, and co are really looking for love. Ben Higgins was the best bachelor, for finding someone he truly wanted a long term relationship with and Courtney and Lilly were the standout couple from Winter Games (I wish they had focused on them and not the pretend couples). When there are really feelings that could become love it shows, and when the relationship is not working and is faked for the cameras it is really transparent for the audience. It is also obvious who is on the show for instagram followers. Depending on who they cast in the next season I may not be giving the Bachelor “my rose” any more!!! No longer will I be watching regardless of the lead – I need to feel invested and believe in their journey.
justa_viewer
February 27, 2018 at 10:02 AM
I don’t recall Steve saying that he has specific new info that leads him to believe that Arie won’t stay with Lauren. Like, I haven’t seen him say “Arie’s already been seen with other women” or “they’ve already had fights about Courtney,” but it sounds like he must have some some, doesn’t it? He’s so adamant that their relationship is doomed.
Of course Luke’s People interview is BS. He didn’t have an “epiphany” that he loved his “ex” while on the Winter Games show. There was no “ex,” because I agree that he never broke up with Holly Allen. Being on the Winter Games was a strategy to get more fans, etc. I’m betting Holly probably reamed him out when she saw him making out so convincingly with Stassi on Winter Games, and what you saw on the Tell All show was Luke being very careful to placate Holly by having little to no interaction with Stassi. He knew Holly would be watching and scrutinizing that show. He seemed like he was one step away from giving Stassi the cut direct. What a prince.
Sad that Becca was unable to afford an actual dress for that rose ceremony (where Kendall went home) and had to wear her pajamas.
ETA: Am I the only one who has problems entering and posting a comment?
avgjoe
February 27, 2018 at 10:08 AM
I find it funny again that the show did the order of the dates in the reverse order of the finishing (Kendall, Lauren, Becca). They did it two weeks ago when they went from 7 women down to 4. It wasn’t reverse order, but both times you could tell who Arie liked most.
They mixed it up for the hometown dates, but otherwise, it’s been telegraphed for weeks who his favorites are.
tinyred500
February 27, 2018 at 11:50 AM
The ATFR show sounds like something I’d never want to be part of (when it airs next week!) Arie changed his mind fair enough, he’s a human being, but truly horrid for Becca. However, filming the break up and not warning Becca beforehand is totally insensitive and humiliating. I know there will be peeps who maintain they all sign up to be humiliated and embarrassed, but there’s a limit, or there should be. I just do not agree with those kinds of degradation, or throwing someone under a bus when they neither deserve it or expect it. It should have been done in private and off camera. Arie is partly to blame because he’s gone a long with the idea.
If I were Becca, I’d pass on The Bachelorette (if she’s offered it), simply because if the producers were willing to do that to her, why would she want anything more to do with them?! Nasty. 🙁
trainwrecktv
February 27, 2018 at 11:58 AM
Agreed, Luke went down in flames. Showing that “behind the scenes” exchange at the end was the final nail for that dude. Thanks for keeping it real on him Steve.
I keep seeing stuff online claiming that Winter Games is the best show so far in the Bachelor franchise (like on E!) and how Yuki is a breakout star – either it has to be paid for by ABC (not sure why they would waste the money) or these folks are high.
Everything Ross was involved with was so BAD. It goes to show how little material they had to work since they left all that in. Arie looked like he barely cared – saying he was so mad in a tone of voice that sounded totally disinterested. Also, I laughed out loud when Ross mentioned how he came to Peru hoping he could somehow find her. Becca acted annoyed, Ross acted confused about what he was actually doing there, and Arie seemed bored. Between this season and Winter Games (not to mention the last BIP) it seems like the producers better get their act together if they want to keep their jobs.
rob22
February 27, 2018 at 12:07 PM
If RS is saying that the picture of Arie walking up to Lauren’s house is the same as the house across the street in the grainy picture, I don’t think so. The picket fence sorta looks the same, but not really. The garage is different and the walkway is also different. The garage in one picture is a single garage door, the other is two single garage doors. There also appears to be a doorway next to the garage in one picture that isn’t in the other picture. The walkway in one has a low brick fence, which the other picture doesn’t have. Also the picket fence is more curved in one picture than the other, which appears to have no curve. If I am misunderstanding what RS was saying, then nevermind!
tinyred500
February 27, 2018 at 12:08 PM
Luke Pell, if he has one iota of common sense, he’ll come off all social media and hope he can salvage what’s left of his reputation. Trying to blame the editing for his atrocious behaviour was just beyond lame, he needs to own his actions and stop blaming other people. I think he’s been truly blackballed by the Bachelor franchise now.
tinyred500
February 27, 2018 at 12:09 PM
I thought they looked different too. 😀
rob22
February 27, 2018 at 12:11 PM
@justaviewer: Posting is a complete mess. The website has been glitchy since he changed to this format years ago. It’s never been fixed. It’s loaded up with so many ads that it crashes my browser nearly every time. Write quickly, that’s my best advice. Otherwise, you may end up either giving up or retyping the whole thing.
shouldbeworking
February 27, 2018 at 12:23 PM
Wait….which Becca for Bachelorette? Because if its the 22 year old Becca, I’m not watching.
tinyred500
February 27, 2018 at 12:43 PM
The older Becca for the possible Bachelorette. The 22 year old’s name is spelt Bekah.;)
ctrealitygirl
February 27, 2018 at 1:01 PM
I agree with rob22’s advice ..when posting to this site you need to type lightning fast or it gets stuck. I’ve had to start over a couple of times. Also, I have had issues listening to his podcasts all the way thru for the same reason. The site freezes and the podcast stops, then you have to reload and you have to start all over again listening to the podcast. I muscled thru with the most recent one as I love hearing what Sharleen Joynt has to say (her recaps are the absolute best! But, other than hers, I’ve lost patience with trying to stick with a full podcast. Sheer torture!
ingerutz
February 27, 2018 at 1:10 PM
To those who keep having issues because of the ads, why don’t you guys get ad blocker and enable it on this website? I’ve had ad blocker enabled for a few years on this website now and not only do I not see ads anymore at all, I have no issue with typing this post, either. Give it a try!
jeninarkansas
February 27, 2018 at 1:29 PM
I actually loved Becca’s dress!
jeninarkansas
February 27, 2018 at 1:31 PM
I truly hope he is gone forever! He’s awful.
shenanigans
February 27, 2018 at 2:37 PM
First, I loved Becca’s dress. She looked stunning.
Second, it’s impossible to navigate this site without an ad blocker. If you use a good antivirus program, such as Kaspersky, it is free.
jlal
February 27, 2018 at 2:43 PM
I’m posting from my phone, because this site locks up on my on my tablet. Very frustrating! If what RS said is correct and Becca was in fact blindsided, then that is just wrong. I don’t know how the contracts are written, but if he could Arie should have said no way. I did love that he didn’t buy the Krystal crap. She came off exactly how she is; a mean, nasty, manipulating itch. I thought they seemed to be setting Tia up to be the next bachelorette. But, they like to do that so who knows. I thought it was crappy when Ben said he loved two of the women and think it is still crappy with Arie. I wonder if the producers egged that on for drama. I know in another post I said I was a fan of Arie, but I meant to say not a fan. I couldn’t go back and correct it. I however don’t think he is the POS RS and others seemed to think he is. But, if he did set up Becca to be blindsided then I may have to revise my opinion.
deedledee
February 27, 2018 at 2:56 PM
Becca is totally winning this season. Instead of boring Arie, she’s going to get to be the lead and select from a bunch of guys competing for her. Overall, it super sucks to go through the embarrassment of it all, but the Bachelorette gig (and its accompanying perks) more than make up for it in my mind!
deedledee
February 27, 2018 at 2:58 PM
I did too! Thought it was really pretty.
adelina
February 27, 2018 at 3:16 PM
Money talks.
“Fame” talks.
Potential “love” talks.
adelina
February 27, 2018 at 3:17 PM
Me too! It was flattering and different.
justa_viewer
February 27, 2018 at 3:30 PM
Eh, to me, it looks like lingerie, something you’d wear under a dress. Then again, I’m not a big fan of Becca’s style in general.
I always download Steve’s podcast for later listening on my PC or MP3 player; I find that works better for me than listening online. Also, I run an ad blocker, so that’s apparently not a perfect solution to some of the issues readers/listeners are having.
My best friend, posting-wise, is Notepad. The last 2 times I posted, I ended up writing my comments in Notepad, and then pasting from Notepad into the Comment section on RS’s website. That seems to work okay.
jlal
February 27, 2018 at 3:30 PM
I also agree that is not the same garage in the pictures. And while I didn’t care for Becca’s dress it wasn’t horrible. I loved Laurens dress. Also, Arie and Kendall were solidly in the friend zone and neither felt romantic about the other.
jlal
February 27, 2018 at 5:16 PM
I agree he is a creep. I saw a clip on an entertainment show of after he thought the camera quit rolling. He was a total dick and wouldn’t even look at her. What a fame hungry user.
jlal
February 27, 2018 at 5:26 PM
Don’t know if my last post worked, so sorry if this is a duplicate. I agree that Luke is a total jerk. Saw a clip of them after he thought the camera quit rolling he wouldn’t even look at her. What a dick.
upmyalley
February 27, 2018 at 7:48 PM
Gawd, this really has been the “most boring season ever” lol Arie is a total douchebag and probably does have a needle d*ck.I hope he gets reamed by the public. Does anyone think the producers will try to smooth the story over with some bull about Arie having to follow his heart after making a mistake? Or will they let him dig his own grave? I mean, they make bank either way right? They through Juan Pablo under the bus so why try to spare Arie? Good luck Lauren, you are not a very smart cookie girl.
mahli1978
March 1, 2018 at 8:41 AM
I just checked my TV listing in NY and they’re showing the Bachelor as a 3 hour episode and the next night is ATFR. Do you think that since there’s so much extra footage that they end at the proposal and then keep on going for shock factor? We’ve already seen the couch shake up with Jason and Melissa. They’re saying like we’ve never seen before, so I can only wonder if that’s what they’re going to do? Maybe have Lauren re-shoot what it was like being home and depressed after filming, maybe they have footage of Arie and Becca during their time together, maybe they shot him separately at home, debating between the two. Maybe he filmed himself debating.. I’m sure they can fill an hour if they put their mind to it, especially having the footage at her home and this past Saturday. Then Tuesday night they do ATFR with Becca the loser and Lauren and Arie engaged?
sarahe
March 1, 2018 at 12:18 PM
This just keeps getting better and better. Arie is such a joke. I cannot even believe he’d go on the ATFR proposed to the runner up and expect anyone to think it’s a legitimate love story and do anything but laugh at him.
Poor Becca. I know you sign up to possibly get hurt on this show. But to break off an engagement with someone who isn’t expecting it on camera just takes it to a whole other level of disgusting. Then to top it off, to lie to her face and say it has nothing to do with the other woman, just to show up ENGAGED on the ATFR with the other woman, is even more of a slap in the face. If I were Lauren, I’d be questioning Arie’s character and integrity in a major way. But that would require her to have a brain and be able to put together sentences, and we have all clearly seen how good she is at doing that on the show.