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Bachelor in Paradise 4

“Bachelor in Paradise 4” Episode 5 Recap, Upcoming Podcasts, Nick & Vanessa Break Up, & Finale Taping on Thursday

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Because I’m working on my procrastination, you can see with last week’s podcast, I tried to change things up. Part 1 of my interview with Josiah Graham aired last Thursday with Part 2 airing this Thursday. Well, I’ve got your next set of podcasts lined up after that and both will be split into two parts. Next week: Desiree Siegfried Part 1 (Sept. 7th) and Part 2 (Sept. 14th). One thing I’ve always wanted to ask Desiree is how my wrong spoiler affected her during airing of her season. Answer: She wasn’t happy. Also, we address the elephant in the room and the two questions I seem to be asked regarding her and Chris: Why does the franchise seem to ignore them and why didn’t they get a televised wedding? Desiree is very open and honest answering both of those questions. Then the next guest after her will be the “Pretty Boy Pitbull” himself, Kenny King. Part 1 with Kenny will air Sept. 21st and Part 2 will be Sept. 28th. Another great insightful interview as Kenny touches on all the topics you’d expect him to. Another guy that you know I was looking forward to talking to after Rachel’s season. Now, if I can get Eric on at some point, that will complete my personal trifecta. Three main guys I wanted to speak to this season. I’m sure others will be on at some point from Rachel’s season, but those three were at the top of my list to grab first.

I’m sure you’ve all heard the news by now, but Nick and Vanessa released a statement on Friday saying they had broken up and ended their engagement. Contrary to what some of you might think, I don’t root for these couples to break up. Breaking up is never fun. In fact, it’s the worst. It sucks to be the one doing it, and it sucks to be the one on the receiving end. So nothing about their breakup makes me happy. But if you’re expecting me to pile on or whatever or have all this inside dirt on these two, I don’t. If you’ve read my site at any point since last September when Nick was announced as the “Bachelor,” you know how I felt about the situation. Once he got engaged, to me it was always a matter of when the break up would happen, not if. I’ve said the same thing for months regarding this and never changed my thoughts on it. Go back and read anything I’ve written about Nick and his intentions over the last year on this site and you’ll know why Friday’s news wasn’t the least bit surprising to me.

So when ABC and Chris Harrison were promoting that BIP would have a live reunion show at the end of the season to catch up on some of the couples, I don’t know why, but I just assumed the night of the finale, once the show was done airing, we were gonna get an actual “live” finale, just like we do with the ATFR. Not happening. BIP is taping their “live” finale this Thursday. It’s live in the fact that it’s in front of an audience, but it’s certainly not happening “live” the night of the finale. Soooooo yeah. I’m guessing I’m gonna be able to spoil that. Right now, there are really only two couples who have any sort of chance to get engaged: Derek & Taylor and Adam & Raven. Adam & Raven are the more popular couple considering Raven is production’s golden child, but I’d be really surprised if it was them. I’d almost be embarrassed if those two got engaged. Derek & Taylor are the obvious choice, but also a part of me thinks production doesn’t give two sh**s if those two get engaged. They’re just not all that interesting to the masses of this show. So we’ll see, but hopefully I’ll have your spoilers from the taped finale sometime this weekend. I’ll keep you posted.

Nice to see everyone taking the new 2 drinks per hour rule so seriously, huh? Glad to see everyone seemed to learn from the DeMario/Corinne incident. I had a feeling this thing wasn’t really gonna be enforced. I mean, you’ve got 16-18 contestants there at all time. You’re telling me someone in production is following all these people around at every second with a notepad writing down at what time they picked up a drink, finished it, then started a next one? Please. And I love Robby’s sneaky plan to avoid that, saying they’d get a drink at :50 past the hour, then another one at :55 past, then :05 after the hour, then at :10 after. Well yeah, technically you could, but that’s if this “2 Drinks Per Hour” rule actually started at the top of every hour. If that’s the rule they installed, then production really never cared about curbing the drinking on this show because that’s just stupid. Robby’s right in a technical sense. However, if you’re really enforcing two drinks an hour, that means the second you pick up that drink at :50 past the hour is when your hour where you’re only allowed 2 drinks would begin. The whole thing is pretty idiotic when you think about it, and the fact that these contestants are openly mocking the rule goes to show how little the show really cared about changing the drinking culture on the show.

Get your “Reader Emails” in for tomorrow and any “Dr. Reality Steve” emails in for Thursday. Definitely a little light on tomorrow’s emails and currently have zero “Dr. Reality Steve” emails for Thursday. Not good. The doctor took last week off, so, I say he needs at least 2 or 3 this week to feel like he’s doing his job.

And our poll question for the week: Who should Matt have given rose to?

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  1. adelina

    August 29, 2017 at 8:01 AM

    I was just as confused as you Steve. Last night’s show was complete sheet. Every single one of these people on this show is making a complete arse of themselves or is a complete fool for giving up their pride to be on this show.

    The only ones who look good Wells and Diggy. He’s a shining light of normalcy.

    Raven – trying so so hard.
    Jasmine – playing into every angry black woman stereotype on earth.
    Kristina – sweet girl acting so pathetically desperate.
    Dean – child
    Adam – no appeal
    Taylor – an embarrassment to the mental health field. Her valley girl voice alone – ugh!
    Derek – left his balls in Taylor’s purse
    Alexis – trashy
    Lacey – sad little sap
    Robby – just gross
    Amanda – desperate

    The whole scallops thing played to death was not funny and just plain high school girl level mean.

  2. jlal

    August 29, 2017 at 8:37 AM

    OMG adelina, I couldn’t have said it better myself; you nailed it with all of them.

    I was so frustrated when Dean was telling Kristina he thought of her feelings before making every decision, and she goes “That’s so sweet”, ugh! I about spit out my drink. I wanted to scream at her “Actions, not words. Pay attention to his actions woman.”

    Ladies, never, ever buy into the pretty words unless there are pretty actions to back them up. Talk is truly cheap.

    Amanda is just stringing Robby along to get a rose. Not faulting her as that is the point, just making an observation.

    Taylor’s valley girl voice is killing me man. Also, everyone apparently no matter how well educated just massacres pronouns. Frankly, Steve does too, just read his post. I wish someone would teach these people which pronoun to use, it makes me crazy.

    For the record people – Take out the other person and it will tell you which pronoun to use. “Me and her went to the mall” – “me when to the mall” (wrong), “her went to the mall” (wrong). She and I went to the mall (correct). She went to the mall – I went to the mall. Got it, great!

    Maybe I should offer to tutor the contestants so they don’t sound so ignorant.

  3. ashleigh11

    August 29, 2017 at 8:42 AM

    I liked Christen and her chill vibe and I did think the other girls were being very Regina George/Mean Girls/’You can’t sit with us!” on her with the scallops thing. And I thought the story was that she grabbed the take-out box of scallops from her car to take with her on the ride to the bar (not randomly pulling scallops out of her purse). Girls tend not to eat a lot when going out (and especially nothing with carbs), so as weird as scallops sound, I can see why she’d grab something like that to fill her up a bit before drinking, without worrying about the dreaded carb-bloat in a tight dress. Doing it in a jam-packed car probably wasn’t the smartest thing, but they way overplayed it. Clearly the Paradise clique was Team Jasmine because of her aggressive claim on Matt, so Christen was thrown under the bus. The side-giggling and constant scallop fingers thing felt like grade school girls ganging up on a new girl and telling her ‘ewww, you smell!’. Like it’s just silly, especially for adult women.

    Re Taylor/Derek. I thought Derek had said the FU as a joke. They weren’t arguing when it came out, so the context was important. For Taylor to name it a ‘trigger’ that causes her to burst into tears and demand to be alone so she can question the relationship (and consider ending it, even 24 hrs later) is bizarre and not a good trait to carry into a mature relationship for the future.

  4. ctrealitygirl

    August 29, 2017 at 10:38 AM

    Wow! After reading these comments I am SO glad that I was not home last night and recorded the episode! I will definitely zip thru it and skip all the scallop nonsense. I am so NOT liking this season’s cast, even Dean, the one person I looked forward to seeing on the show. What a pack of immature self-absorbed people. There is not one couple I am the least bit invested in. I say just end it now and give us Dancing with the Stars on Monday nights!

  5. rob22

    August 29, 2017 at 10:47 AM

    I have three shows on backlog on the DVR. I can’t really get myself to watch them. BIP is always pretty bad and uninteresting, but this season really has to be the last one. They’ve played this out to the point that nobody is even really attempting to have much of a relationship. The ones that are out there seem to be more business partnerships, disguised as a relationship, designed to generate attention and clicks. Whatever is happening, it’s unwatchable.

  6. purplerayne

    August 29, 2017 at 11:01 AM

    Yeah, it seems Christen had leftovers/take out and tried to eat in the car on way to a club. Big deal.

    And I didnt find Taylor’s trigger odd……she made it clear its from past relationships. So someone she dated probably verbally abused her and she’s more sensitive to that type of language than most. Verbal abuse is just as powerful as physical. Even a small joke could make her feel..wait, is this how he is off camera?….its understandable that she would be worried.

  7. jlal

    August 29, 2017 at 11:08 AM

    Ashleigh, you’re so right the scallop thing was very jr. high school and mean girls.

    I wonder is Jasmine is as aggressive as they edit her to be. For the love of Pete, she was crawling all over Matt and he did not seem to be interested at all. Either she is just clueless and not good at picking up signals or lack there of, or the producers were egging her on.

  8. nevermiss

    August 29, 2017 at 12:44 PM

    I don’t understand the double standards on this show or from the viewer. No one batted an eye when Dlo asked out Dean even though he was in an established relationship with Kristina. And no one seemed to care when Kristina said she would like to go on a date with one of the new guys (can’t remember who it was) even though she’s supposedly head over heels in love with Dean. But yet Christen took major heat and Dean is getting trashed for being a typical 26 year old. Let’s not forget these relationships have only been days long NOT years (or even months) of a normal, committed relationship.

  9. thedoctor

    August 29, 2017 at 1:14 PM

    I only half pay attention. But didn’t Derek state he has talked on the phone 100’s of hours with Taylor?

    Wells is sure getting a ton of screen time. Will he be replacing Chris Harrison?

    I can’t beleive how much scree time is given to pointless garbage. Were is the topless pool action? Can we please get one if these triangles morph in a menage a trios? BIP needs a shakeup, way too boring.

    Why does Matt leave? What the heck. Is it that boring that guys leave for no reason at all? Or did Jasmine scare the crap out of him?

  10. ctrealitygirl

    August 29, 2017 at 1:48 PM

    I just hope that they’re NOT giving Wells a lot of air time to groom him for being named the next bachelor like they did with Nick last summer. Wells is a nice guy but does NOT have enough charisma to pull off being the leading man…he’s more like a girl’s best friend than lover. Please give us someone hotter than that!!

  11. cmb977

    August 29, 2017 at 2:08 PM

    I love how these girls are all tough until the heat is on them…

    Then they disable comments on their social media haha ?

  12. cmb977

    August 29, 2017 at 2:33 PM

    My guess is Jasmine didn’t call her a bitch as many times as it seemed but there was editing happening to replay her comment in various contexts.

    That said, I hope these girls do actually read this stuff… what I liked about Jasmine before was the comedic light hearted relief she brought to the show. Seeing her react last night by being ugly to the girl and clingy to the guy was appalling. First of all, whether she has a true grievance with Christen or not isn’t for us to judge, but she showed she can’t be the classier woman when she is upset. And ultimately drove the guy away because of it. I also am irritated with the double standard depending on where you sit in the bachelor world popularity co test…

    D Lo comes in, steaks Dean from Kristina and nobody seems to care or take Kristinas side. Nobody tells D Lo hey, girl code, not a good play. But then Christen who is less popular rolls in and gets the green light from Matt himself does the same thing and she’s ostracized.

    I hope looking back there’s some reflection of behaviour and realization that her behaviour led to Matt wanting nothing to do with her. And her anger was misdirected entirely. But judging on her Twitter comments she is defending her behaviour and blocking anyone who doesn’t agree with her.

  13. ltil47

    August 29, 2017 at 5:31 PM

    Wait so if the finale is being taped in advance is then when they’re announcing the next bachelor. Meaning you may be able to actually spoil that this time?!

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